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falcon
11-27-2004, 10:36 PM
Hey I guess some people have to resist the NWO as Makow says. I am a college student in California so savethemales keeps me in the know while I receive my mainstream education.

roon
11-28-2004, 07:36 AM
Hi,
How do your friends feel about what is going on? I'm an old guy up in Montreal Canada. I try to defend americans to all my chat friends around the world. I lived in California once for eight years. I can not believe that there is any general consensus for Bush doctrine, despite what media may say, and that you are already in a de facto police state. Do you actually know anyone who supports Bush?

falcon
11-28-2004, 09:43 AM
I just recently went to Montreal in September, have family there. My cousins were making fun of America and I couldn't blame them. It is no use defending Americans, we are pretty much an imperialistic empire. At school, the general consensus is against Bush, however, the students/faculty actually think they can make a difference by voting. At my campus there were so many get out the vote garbage campaigns. The political biases really depend on the schools. Some schools are notoriously liberal, UC Berkeley and UCLA, while others are conservative, USC. The differences lay in the funding. The liberal schools tend to be public while the conservative schools are private (but there are exceptions to this rule, most Ivy league schools are both private and liberal). Now, outside academia most Americans don't know Iraq from Afghanistan on the map. They are sheep, and the media preys on them. It is ridiculous, Bush and the media (which is, contrary to popular thought, more conservative than liberal) scare the sheeple into thinking they are at risk of another terrorist attack. That is completely ridiculous, I have been living the same life post 9/11 as I was pre 9/11. For every Bush supporter there is a Kerry supporter, but the key is that they both believe in "democracy."

Alexandra
11-28-2004, 02:18 PM
Heh--I think Bush is too liberal! He supports gay civil unions and he's not 100% pro-life. That's why I voted for Peroutka (Constitution Party).

I think Orwell was off by around 20 years....

GoodKnight
11-28-2004, 02:30 PM
By the way....does anyone know if this site is actually run by Henry? He's Canadian and the admin is based in Winnipeg, according to his/her profile. Just curious.... :-)

GoodKnight
11-28-2004, 02:34 PM
Bush isn't liberal, he's a madman who cares nothing for human life. Americans need to redefine "liberal".

Adm
11-28-2004, 07:19 PM
I confess. Yes I Henry Makow initiated this site as a way for people to connect and talk about what is really happening. I am thrilled that so many of you are taking me up on my invitation.
I have a web site (savethemales.ca). Now hopefully you will have one.

TerraNovan
11-28-2004, 07:33 PM
I figured it was you, Henry. Thanks for your writings and your insight. You have set many people on the path to the truth.

Cheers,

TerraNovan

Freeda
11-28-2004, 08:41 PM
Hello from Vancouver, Canada.
Great idea with this site.
Hope to "meet" many people of diffrent opinions, as this is what makes the world move forward and hopefully in a positive direction.Greetings everyone!

DrMark
11-29-2004, 06:55 PM
Henry,
Good on you for setting up the site. I have greatly enjoyed your articles not the least for your recognizing and making more accessible information about the Banker/Zionist cabal. I hope that you will continue to have a very active presence on this forum. I too came to an understanding relatively late in life that things were not quite as they seem and have spent the last 15 of my 52 years piecing together information and yes even some of the active disinformation being promulgated and have arrived at a view much like that you write about. Again thanks for the articles and for setting up the forum. There are an amazing number of internet committees of correspondece springing up, simultaneously a good and a bad sign that people are coming awake and that the Illuminati have started to panic and tip their hand.

viking
11-29-2004, 07:06 PM
Hello everyone. I'm new to this site. I'm 51 year old guy. Been studying NWO for at least 30 years. The learning never stops. And nothing shocks me any longer

Pete
11-30-2004, 04:23 AM
Liberal vs Conservative is a bogus issue, so is gay marriage. The real issue with gay marriage is why is the government involved with the licensure of marriage in the first place. A license is a permission to do that which you otherwise could not legally do. Don't people (as in a man and a woman) have a right to marry? The state enters in as a fraudulent third party for the purpose of gaining a jurisdiction over the children from a licensed marriage. The marriage license used to be an intermarriage license, as in mixed race marriage. In the 19th century, churches would not sanction such marriages nor was marriage outside of ones race considered a right. But, the whole point of licensure seems to have been forgotten by the Christian church, which has taken a license itself in the form of non profit religious corporation status. The corporation churches refuse to marry people without a state license. Why is it needed? It is NOT needed. People marry in a church in front of witnesses, guest books are signed, the whole thing is videotaped and photographed, etc. Isn't that enough evidence to validate that a marriage took place? In fact, if you ask your local Dept. of Motor Vehicles regarding name change on a driver's license, they WILL accept a church issued certificate of marriage signed by witnesses and the preacher. Once a new driver's license is issued, the socialist slavestate number administration will be happy to use that as evidence of name change to issue a new socialist slavestate ID card. With the new ssn card issued, the IRS has no problem with "married filing jointly" status. So, even the whole bogus system doesn't require the marriage license.

Let the gays have their state issued license, since no legitimate Christian church could perform their ceremony anyways. They do have legitimate issues regarding insurance, standing in court, power of atty., probate court, etc. As for the rest of us, simply boycotting the licensure of marriage would bring the govt. to heel far quicker than any amount of bickering over should they or shouldn't they issue a license to gays.

Pete

Pete
11-30-2004, 04:26 AM
Viking dude,

I am also 51, you started becoming NWO aware about the time I was in Navy boot camp. What was your point of waking up regarding the NWO?

Pete

Parashuram
11-30-2004, 02:57 PM
36 here, from Slovenia, former yugoslavia. I'm so glad I finally find people interested in truth mainly because there are so very few. Being a Krishna's devotee, I'm also happy that "freedom fighters" are mostly God conscious people, because only through love of God we can be liberated both from materialistic demoniac rulers of todays society as from our own entanglement in this material world as a spirit souls. God bless us all.

sablefish
12-01-2004, 04:19 PM
Thanks Henry.. I've been reading you for years.. Check in on us now and then if you would.. You are inspirational.

remowus
12-01-2004, 04:28 PM
I am a Canadian citizen currently living in St. Louis. I grew up in California. I keep trying to motivate anti-W sentiment here but it just doesn't work. These people have been dumbed down.
I can't believe they can't see what he is doing to the country. I have plans for heading to B.C
when the dollar finally crashes . Any body want to buy a house in st.louis?

BvL
12-02-2004, 07:08 PM
Hi

I would just like to say I found out about this new world order by accident. One day I was on the Internet and trying to deal with some issues and I did a search on Ďpolice corruptioní. I hit on a bit of an alternative site and one thing lead to another and my ideas about how the world works have never been the same since.

So what a great thing the internet is, I mean I have known all my life that I have been lied to by the system but it all fits together now and in fact I feel a lot better knowing the truth. I do try and help as many people as possible know about what is going on and for quite a while now I have been a regular contributor to

http://community.channel4.com/6/ubb.x?a=frm&s=162603557&f=503603557

This is the news forum for our national TV broadcaster and it has wizened up a bit since I have been making some contributions. My user name on it is Baron von Lotsov hence the abbreviation BvL (because it wouldnít fit otherwise). So I find it good to get the word out to ordinary people, otherwise itís a bit like preaching to the converted. However the powers that be can be heavy on the delete key when topics tread on the wrong system toes, so this looks like a good place where we can talk.

I think Henry Makows site is probably one of the best for regular news on what is going on so thatís really why I am here. I have benefited a lot from the articles on feminism and it has really opened my eyes. To be honest itís surprising that there are few others who have caught on to this insidious plan. Maybe because everyone copyís everyone else and quite frankly thatís how disinformation spreads. Henry on the other hand does use his own head and that must be commended. I donít see the same errors copied on his site. Itís not all Bush, but then you knew that!

thokhanCep
12-03-2004, 03:20 AM
Hi everybody (Dr Nik from the simpsons)
I am Thor a k a ThoKhan an underground lyrical mind manipulator FOR ALL the right reasons. I grew up in a cool family we got along my dad's a mad scientist my moms a shaman .. seriously .. So I went to school to learn about things I didn't have a care in the world for. I guess i've always been an outsider with many friends from all different classes. Divide and conquer never really fazed me. I was interested in the pyrimads when I was 12 which was the main reason I discovered the NWO. I thought the world was going to end in the year 2000 may 5th .. Well not really end but change in many ways. It was the 7 planet alignment that happens every 6000 years. This was the wake up call I started to question just about everything. Most of my questions were regarding the stupidity of the human race. We have all this technology and still people die from hunger all the time, meanwhile North American peeps eat more in a day than 3rd world families do in a matter of weeks. That was one of my first anti anything rhymes.

So I went on a wild 5 year ride leading up to 2000. It passed and nothing happened .. phew. It was 9-11 that really woke me up to the illuminati NWO fools .. at first I knew of them but not what they did. This fiasco just didn't seem right at all. When I heard on the news(mainstream) that they found traces of insider trading WHICH meant that someone knew the full plan.. I thought wow a smoking GUN. The story went cold and I never heard of it again... instant INTERNET search after that. It sent me to RENSE.com .. and the rest is history........

Ana
12-07-2004, 10:41 AM
Hi I'm from London, England. Although, I suspect Iím one of the few English people on here!

I first got interested in truth seeking when I became disillusioned with the political system. I couldnít understand why my culture was being attacked by large-scale immigration, political correctness, feminism and an ever-increasing materialism. I fell into the divide and rule trap of attacking the problem instead of the cause, full of hate directed at the wrong people. I noticed a pattern of the left and the right playing off each other yet continuing the same policies, all they changed was the packaging. I realised they must be working together, it was the only logical explanation. I saw that we had been set up in some way but for what I didnít know. In a mad state of confusion I got reading.

The sites I found on the New World Order were mind-blowing yet somehow they made sense, after many, many hours of reading everything connected together and until I find a better explanation of the truth I will stay loyal to the cause. Henrys excellent site has been a gentle yet at times explosive introduction to what is going on and why, creating this forum will spread the truth that little bit further. Henry Rocks!

I other my respects to those that have been truth seeking for many years, in one case thirty! I can only learn from you, thanks.

marypopinz
12-07-2004, 11:15 AM
Hey Anna

Hello from across the pond. I lived outside Maidstone,Kent for about ten years. Near that area is where the cure for aids is hiding.

The story goes... There is this dude and he has a drunken doctor friend. The drunken doctor has been working on this potion and sells it to dude for 1.8 million pounds.

Dude invests a further 33 million pound and voila
a 248/250 cure for aids.

Gordon Brown offers 25 million pounds...no...
Pfizer have tried to kidnap dude and now he lives in a fortess.

The BBC were supposed to air the special prior to XMAS 03...did you see it? Me neither. (if they only knew how I knew LOLOLOL!!!!)

I had a chance to speak with Anrew Gilligan (no,it wasn't him). Interesting, to say the least...remember Dr. Kelly and the Kangaroo Court at the Royal Courts of Justice? WMD's in 45 minutes?????????

I also met the good Dr. of Iraq - head of human rights. Geeze I've seen some things and met some folks and heard some stories.

God Bless Britain
God Bless us all

mary XXX

Saturnino
12-08-2004, 11:18 AM
I`m from Brazil but lived in Arizona and NYC for two years.
The worst problem for me during that time was that in the USA you have to buy the whole package: either you are a conservative and side with them in ALL issues (pro-life, anti-gay agenda, screw the poor, pro-war) or you are a liberal and side with them in ALL issues (pro-abortion, anti-war, pro-gay agenda, etc.).
Well, I happen to be pro-life, anti-gay agenda, christian, anti-Iraqi war, anti-imperialism, etc...so you see I couldn`t "fit" any group and felt totally isolated.
I am also a fundamentalist christian in doctrine who abhors the behavior of the christians in the US, the intolerance, the xenophobia, the lack of compassion, the politics. Boy was I screwed...

Ozziecynic
12-08-2004, 08:35 PM
:-( Well it seems I am the only Australian in here which doesnt surprise me to say the least most Australians are an extremely gullible lot!.
I am a male 30 and also a college student like falcon or universities we call them here!

I am a mature age student and after a decade in the workforce as trade appentice and Logistics storeperson and various other occupations i realise just how much as a worker i was being screwed by business big and small and hence the whole NWO economic system.


I am also fed up the the degenerate sexual norms the mainstream media prostelytising this filth!
I am also fedup of the pathetic and corny subcultures the media try prostelytise to youth and those in their twenties!.

Personally i dont know how many years of life i lost to such nihilistic subcultures and their anti establishment facade but in reality just degenerate conformity to NWO standards and attitudes eg. punks goths,hippys whatever thats why i think there so stupid!. :-x

laywinder
12-09-2004, 03:20 PM
I too voted for Peroutka. I thought he was the only one running that actually stood for something! Oh well, maybe next time! :lol:

Ana
12-10-2004, 09:02 AM
Hi Mary thanks for your reply. Iím sorry to read that you had problems here in England and wish you well for the future. You sound like a good mum from what youíve said, thatís why youíve got great kids, good for you :-)

flipy
12-11-2004, 12:51 PM
peace to all

All my life I felt like everybody else possessed some mysterious
Handbook For Humans which I lacked...
Ever since I was a teenager I've been bewildered and amazed at
people around me taking everything for granted. All that energy, man!
I knew (always experienced the world intuitively rather than
intellectually) that something was very wrong, the way the sense of magic seemed to flee the planet.

Now I understand (thanks to among others Mr Makow - who btw sometimes throws my wife into fits of rage) that I'd damn well better pay attention to these 'obscure' dissidents way across the seas - in order to understand what's going on right here...where my children are dependant on my choices.

I'm a true anti-ism-ist, and I strongly feel that Krishna-Buddha-Christ-Mohammad-whathaveyou are manifestations of the very same idea & feel. Whether they were real historic characters or not doesn't seem to matter much.

I've given up searching for spiritual answers outside myself.
Maybe one day, when these dark ages are over, science will prove that love & compassion really is what creates gravity and keeps the world together.

Respect to you all from the Snowy North!

marypopinz
12-11-2004, 01:59 PM
Flipy, your a poet, do you know it?

Great read. I agree wholeheartedly!!!!!!!

Mary XXX

charlotte
12-22-2004, 03:08 PM
Hi Everyone,

I am looking forward to becoming a part of this group.
I have no one that I can discuss with, about the important issues happening in this world.

from charlotte, calgary, canada

Born_To_Die
12-22-2004, 03:32 PM
Henry ALL OF US LOVE YOU ! ! !

Thanks for The Truth.

:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

awake
12-22-2004, 07:07 PM
Last three posts have been intercepted. Site not secure- must leave, awake.
scary

Draken
01-17-2005, 10:32 AM
flipy!

Right on the money. Your spirituality is within!

charlotte!

Knock yourself out.
I know exactly how you feel; not being able to discuss crucial issues.

Welcome to you both! 8-)

marypopinz
01-17-2005, 04:24 PM
Hey Charlotte,

Glad you came and looking forward to reading your posts.

Mary XXX

Draken
01-18-2005, 04:49 PM
Going through threads and topics I haven't had time for before and just generally browsing what's out there, I read this far too late!


Pete wrote:
A license is a permission to do that which you otherwise could not legally do. Don't people (as in a man and a woman) have a right to marry? The state enters in as a fraudulent third party for the purpose of gaining a jurisdiction over the children from a licensed marriage ... the whole point of licensure seems to have been forgotten by the Christian church. / The corporation churches refuse to marry people without a state license. Why is it needed? It is NOT needed. People marry in a church in front of witnesses, guest books are signed, the whole thing is videotaped and photographed, etc. Isn't that enough evidence to validate that a marriage took place? In fact, if you ask your local Dept. of Motor Vehicles regarding name change on a driver's license, they WILL accept a church issued certificate of marriage signed by witnesses and the preacher. Once a new driver's license is issued, the socialist slavestate number administration will be happy to use that as evidence of name change to issue a new socialist slavestate ID card. With the new ssn card issued, the IRS has no problem with "married filing jointly" status. So, even the whole bogus system doesn't require the marriage license.

... simply boycotting the licensure of marriage would bring the govt. to heel far quicker than any amount of bickering over should they or shouldn't they issue a license to gays.

Pete

Pete, this is the kind of constructive social disobedience I like!
We NEED to do this kind of thing to bring the current status quo down. It may not look like much but I think if you spread the word more people than you think would agree.

I'm sitting here in overtly Socialist, covertly Communist Sweden and I wonder what the laws here say about marriage...

I'll have to look into it - for "future reference"... ;-)

Great points, Pete!

charlotte
02-22-2005, 11:02 AM
thanks Mary and Draken, I have a problem with my computer right now. Hope to join the forum soon.
charlotte

Draken
02-23-2005, 12:36 PM
Get a Mac! :lol:

sablefish
02-23-2005, 07:52 PM
Hi you guys and gals.. I have been doing my usual thing of hanging' with a bunch of Neocons.. and trying to explain why they are on the wrong side of history.. Their minds are closed by their website's administrators and .. They will never allow open discussions.. When you start telling the truth.. you are 86'ed from the site... So I am back.. I was bored here listening to the same opinions that I had.. I went outside the comfort of reason to plant the seeds of truth.. as soon as you do that you are expelled... They (The administrators of neocon websites are all in Kahoots).. So I have come back here... to Henry's home.

But there is a lesson in this.. We must go out and spread .. The Message.. We can't just sit here and preach to the choir... We got to go out and take some lumps, and spread the message.

Draken
02-24-2005, 02:05 AM
That's what I, Ahmad and truebeliever has been saying from the start! Lead by example, convince people you can live a full life without having to watch docusoaps, establishment media, Hollywood films etc...