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someone
11-26-2009, 01:43 PM
Firstly: This part of my book (!) was at the end until I realised not everyone is going to read to the end so I have put it first here goes:If any one else is being effected emotionally/mentally by "stuff out there in the world" (conspiracy theories, aliens,wars, etc.) and is aware of the sheer misinformatition coupled with the fact that they just think they feel and think differently to the mainstream. Can we have a chat please. I would really like to try and find people that think more outside the box and how they have coped with this in their lives. Knowing this information about the world around you does have a consiquence and I feel like I am living a lie not being able to answer a question about "what do you think about Obama?" or isn't this terrible and say what I think. Its like I am not a sheep but I am having to live amongst sheep. I just feel isolated and you can't just talk about this "stuff" anyway never mind how you create a life for yourself knowing this stuff. Where do you go to find people and friends, how you can help the situation/educate the public etc. The need to be able to express yourself with people who don't think your mental health is wonky and can try and get to know you as a complete person with valid view points and ability to see stuff others can't. Is there not like somewhere you can volunteer and get food and board ? Is someone trying to set up a commune where people like minded can be together (like with eco-communities, spiritual communes)? Any ideas. Basically I have the freedom to go anywhere I want as long as I don't have to dip into savings too much, I want to help somehow and be around people in the know and doing something about this mess. I can no longer sit and watch and feel that I know so little about this planet and ourselves-I really need to be able to get my head more into gear and understand where we are at.

Ok the mess we are in, the sheer mass of theories and information available, I think its about time we seriously admit to ourselves where we are really and how little we know about our planet and where we are heading. With that said, I just find it hard to believe how few people are struggling mentally and emotionally with the state the world is in, worrying about our future as a race, if we are going to screw the planet up (is it not at the point yet where everyday people are using logic and comon sense and thinking well there is a possibility we could have been infiltrated by aliens given the evidence and the mess-maybe we better even just look just incase because of the implications- if its not true, at least we have looked into it as a possibility given our limited knowledge). Unless most people don't really admit this or take it on board - I suppose this takes a lot (things people struggle with everyday seem small in comparison). Frankly it's a miracle I am coping so well as I try to be very rational and honest with the earthly situation the only comfort being the relief the possibility that "this may not be all be our mess". I don't think people realise how REAL and SERIOUS the situation is, I mean its bad enough even if you don't go beyond the media version and the environmental damage and famine etc. Are people numb and dumb? I used to think I was over sensitive, maybe I am more honest with myself (and can't pull wool over my own eyes as effectively cos something is pulling at me within) and I allow myself to be aware of more, its like I don't filter reality the same as every one else. I am really struggling with even being able to just get on in the world, to be honest I have struggled in getting on with people anyway. Yet I am even questioning this. I don't understand how a confident and outgoing personality type can end up so isolated. Having said that run of the mill "normal" things were of no interest to me. I do like to get up and dance and have a laugh but feel like I am using people as that is all I get out of the situation, they aren't really friends. Don't get me wrong I would have loved to have made friends and done fun stuff aswell but alcohol didn't interest me (which immediately makes you odd and in N England its blinkered era going back to my youth when you were lucky to see a black person and you were a freak if you did yoga) and the whole thing of getting to know people is long and complex-going through the normal processes in western society and what you talk about. To be honest a lot of people don't really want to know themselves deeper or ask normal questions about why we are here etc. which is fine but I question why? Isn't that a basic human thing. Its like these people are just existing off surface layors as that is all they are aware of. Where is the wonder? The questioning? The what ifs? Can you just get your kicks off booze, shopping and footy and feel fully satisfied and not a hole inside? Im sorry but it aint normal for an intelligent race to be brain washed by materialism and wonder why they are so unhappy with so many problems. I even question if people are even functioning in a normal way. Hang ups they have are pathetic, egos, their own insecurities, gosh are we really that frail? We are just creating a non-sense world. Just say it like it is, say what you mean. I just want to blurt out what Im about, my experiences what I think and does anybody even feel remotely the same cos its bloody lonely. They have emotional hang-ups their own baggage which a lot of people don't even know they have got, let alone analyse to the extent I do. I say superficial as I wanted to develop spiritually, (when I say this I mean to encompas whatever it means to develop more as an intellegient being) I wanted to genuinely grow as a whole being. I even question my emotions, really delve and find out more about myself. Why I feel different/seem to be experiencing the world from perspectives that aren't "normal" etc. I was always a deep thinker and was emotionally very mature and aware of stuff from a young age. I knew all the stuff psychotherapists were saying to me - I know that but how do I get on with people when I want to feel and exist beyond their level? I can't just be happy on fobbing myself off with job, mortgage, girly nights out, going through "normal channells" of getting to know a person etc, the restricted conversation and normal ways of thinking and being. Even new age stuff people get sucked into, it just ISN'T rational on a global scale. New agers really do "believe", I know there are many chanellings and some are genuine information of some use from somewhere. But you just have to look to see what a big mess it all is. There is some truth in many things, but to believe blindly instead of thinking logically, ok so why aren't we REALLY receiving USEFULL INFORMATION and why aren't they telling us about all this other stuff. If there is all this higher intelligence why the big disagreement and mess? Even the new age has much disinformation and control, although some principles have some elements of truth. Obviously people are receiving stuff from somewhere as some are coming out with information beyond their knowledge (or that they couldn't just reel off) and some of it they obviously couldn't have made up and is consistent. We just aren't as safe - it isnt all loving and fluffy and how come they never admit to all this negative alien abduction stuff (conveniently). I would love to be able to find like-minded people who are also struggling with mental/physchological things and how this fits into conspiracy theories. People who aren't going to laugh or think oh we've got a nutcase here. To be honest I think I have quite a good mind in that I look at evidence, try to take a step back and see the whole picture and lately have been trying to think things through. This involves trying to keep an open mind not getting sucked in to things and remaining vigilant. Are most people doing this as they research? Are they aware of hang on I'm getting hooked and even obsessed with only looking at UFO stuff rather than really educating themselves by looking at stuff that hasn't got the "wow" factor and is mundane but actually is essential and relevant to the situation? World history, human pyschology, the media, the way government system has been created, looking at how all the pieces fit together.
What are emotions but things WE have very little control over and yet there are umpteen ways of being able to have be better control over them. Why is it so simple yet difficult to control them? Where do they come from? Why are there so many emotional-disorders? Are these even normal and natural as they occur or are aliens constantly tellepathically influencing them as they project into the mass sub-consciouss? Or have we been genetically implanted. Lets face it, its a possibility. Why is humanity so destructive with its use of negative thoughts and emotions to the point of it not being logical or serving a purpose? They are like stuck records that play the same stuff. A lot of people aren't even aware they do this. For example being critical of people and constantly making judgements, the need to talk behind peoples backs. It has become obsessive. Our addicition to soaps and negative emotions. Well I hate them, give me some good feel stuff please not doom and gloom! The media and the main channells are mannipulating us psychologically in a big way and the fact that all this crap appeals to a lot of people is frightening. Another way in which humanity is not living its natural potential (not that it is ever encouraged or shown how to do this). Finally I do not mean to affend anyone by saying most people are superficial (most of us have to exist like this in an everyday world which is to a degree normal, however how many people even want to go beyond or have time?), its nobodies fault that they need or don't need more from life than their lives give them, you can only be what you can think and feel and what your desires are. What even influences this? Its like as we are becoming "more intelligent" and more people are wanting answers to philosophical etc questions, the more society is less geared to us finding out the answers and is pumping more materialism and distractions into our world. Does anyone feel that they cannot cope and feel the need to try and understand more about the world around them and all the conspiricies? Is any one else reacting in a "normal" confused and what the hell do we do now kind of way? Its like a mass anasthaetic! Come on, its all very well discussing the physical stuff, but what about how people are FEELING about it? Even I, having recently come off medication (for depression) completely for the first time in 10 years, have some how not had a negative reaction to exposing myself to David Ickes stuff and god knows what else. Partly this in itself is making me question stuff, its like my mind is more balanced. I am a different person and see things differently to what I used to. Its like I can think, more fully and balanced. I just can't explain it. Its a miracle having found all kinds of horrible stuff that is going on that it hasn't made me really down. Unless, deep down I owe it to society NOT to let it get to me and NOT being beaten by this, that I am not achieving anything or helping by being like that. Its like a motivation to DO SOMETHING. I do have very active mind and get lots of thoughts which is a pity I can't focus this, think I need to sort some stuff out! I needed to get stuff off my chest. 6 months or so I "got into conspiracy theories" which involved much research including days of watching stuff my friend had researched. Basically I am open minded and have allowed myself to question things on the planet and accept various things no matter how "off the wall" as they do have supportive evidence and when you put pieces of a jigsaw together and just say, ok lets just see.. David Icke, Montauk series books, the illuminati etc. They aren't out of the question. To be honest the mind control thing or whatever would seem possible, suppression of rational thinking call it what you like. I am just finding myself even more isolated as I just cannot believe an average thinker (I have no degrees!) can't even think rationally for themselves as the state of the world is diabolical. Do people really think that out there is humanity at its pinnacle of intelligence? The fact that people DO NOT come to that question and that it is obvious our full important knowledge of scientific information is NOT readily available. The fact that many people do not even admit paranormal stuff/aliens as reality purely by the sheer quantity of eye witnesses. People by their very nature cannot grasp and even begin to understand the world in which we live as most of it "doesnt exist" or is made up of things which are labelled as physically impossible (a basic understanding of quantum physics makes us realise actually this reality DOESN'T act strictly how we thought and that the observer actually changes the physical reality purely by observation). When I started looking into not readily available scientific info that makes other dimensions and stuff probable etc I wondered why there are so many people instantly dismissing the possibility of aliens having run us for thousands of years (many of which won't even look at the stuff and readily dismiss it). Science fiction actually becomes a possibility.

If you can't see there is something not right in the world by now- GET SOME GLASSES!
Are you suspicious about things - then go and find out!
Lets pull together as one big team and help each other figure it out. Lets be resourcefull, respectfull, helpfull and listen to each others advice about how better to deal with this. Lets NOT judge someone as wierd because they have had an experience we don't understand: ADMIT ITS EXISTENCE AND ACKNOWLEDGE IT as something we need to deal with especially if its happening on a large scale. Use our brains, our logic, research and think, question! This whole thing needs to pull as one not seperate bits to try and educate people and "allow people to think more".

albie
11-30-2009, 05:53 AM
You know, YOU may be miserable and want to blame it on a conspiracy. But there are plenty of happy people in the world and they just see you as mentally ill. The vast majority of people do not feel like you do. They are, and always will be, unconvinced by your unfounded belief in an evil secret government. YOU know that, that's why you came here to post, where you presumed you'd find people who DO believe. Because you know full well that the world will never share your view.

You KNOW that.

someone
11-30-2009, 12:46 PM
[quote=albie;63317]You know, YOU may be miserable and want to blame it on a conspiracy. But there are plenty of happy people in the world and they just see you as mentally ill. The vast majority of people do not feel like you do. They are, and always will be, unconvinced by your unfounded belief in an evil secret government. YOU know that, that's why you came here to post, where you presumed you'd find people who DO believe. Because you know full well that the world will never share your view.

There is a lot of suffering in the world and a lot of unhappy people aswell, I dont deny the many happy ones but I don't think the "happy ones" realise how many unhappy ones there are (and how much suffering there is). It is fact that more people have dirty water than clean, more people live in poverty than don't. I knew there was a lot but, having seen the figures in various respected magazines and from scientific research it was worse than what I thought. People are becoming more aware, hence there being a lot of charities being created and the work of existing charities is expanding. However, I don't think it is mentally ill to find this world "challenging emotionally" or however you want to describe it. I think some people just allow themselves to see more and when they do, they naturally find it upsetting and feel pretty helpless. I think this is called being human, unfortunately too many of us in the more developed countries can't see the extent of this, being too pre-occupied with our material world.

RussyB
12-01-2009, 02:32 AM
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albie
12-01-2009, 06:32 AM
>>However, I don't think it is mentally ill to find this world "challenging emotionally" or however you want to describe it.

I never said that. I said you APPEAR mentally ill if you blame a secret evil government for the wrongs of the world. It is not mental illness that brings about this paranoid world view...it is ignorance, gullibility and laziness.

mello..melliexo
12-14-2009, 09:02 PM
Hey
It is hard for most to stick with a positive attitude through out this life due to all the pain, confusion, misstrust and too common attitude of life for profit.
Have you read the book Trance Formation America? This helps to broaden the mind in terms of were the attitude in the undercurrent comes from.
Most that we grow from is controlled by a majority of sociopaths to put it lightly and therefore it's not a suprise that the values, morales and ethics within society are peculiar, cruel, racist, sexist and offensive. Most are decensortised against sex and violence with an ever growing level of compliance. Therefore they don't think to question whats put forth by our government or otherwise prefer to sit in a form or ignorant bliss.
My sister went through the mental health system when she was 16 for two years and is now suffering severe drug withdrawel. the coruption within this system chanelled through docs and the courts. The experiences she went through were deeply traumatic and she prectically died... we still don't know how deeply the damadge has penetrated. she was raped emotionally and litterally and had her mind completelly fucked with. Shes currently going through severe drug withdrawel, and though physically she is good mentally? The pharmasutical companies gain alot of profit from such patient who are pumped with all different forms of medications and on illegal levels.
This first hand glympse started me off to become aware of a broader level of corruption that can account for what happened to my sister. her story is to common and the only reason we got her home was due to us getting a substantial amount of DNA evidence. When she is ok to make a statement to court than we will take it to the supreme court, well be the first to have a such profound Dna evidence in terms of this catergory.
I saw what anti psycotics can do to a person and anti depressents tend to cause long term depression down the track. Make sure you thurally research what you get prescribed because there is alot more to them than what your GP or whom ever, may say.
I have been down though im able to reason with my emotions and resolve what is paining me in whatever way to an extent this has taken alot of self controle and practice. Though i am lucky to have others that i can talk to about the world who share a sceptical view as i do which is lucky. More people are aware to a certain level than you may think.
I'm only young and am hoping to advance my education and really make a name for my self so that people can take me seriously and therefore i will be able to express my beliefs without being shut down. Thinking about this helps me get up in the morning.
It is hard to say what is true and what is not due to cover up mixed in with missinformation so of course it would be difficult for some who are unaware of any other conspepts other than what is put forward to them on the news and such, to suddenly switch there view because someone is claiming such and such.
You have to approach it from the right angle. like eg: i read about pedophelia, sadomassicust and ritual abuse to enduce MPD and create sex slaves...etc. I didnt know if this was true though it deffinitelly sounded plausible. than unfortunatally after a few experiences and more knowledge things began to click and now i can say for sure that this shit goes down.
You can't assume that someone hasn't got pain in there life or are ignorant just because they pass you by on the street with a smile on there face and blingged n branded out. I don't know anyone that lives in ignorant bliss though there front projects it, underneath they don't.
Obviously if the shit in the world effects you than you are empathetic and compassionate and that's not something to be ashamed of. you just need to learn to work with it grow stronger emotionally and stand up for what you believe in as long as it's bassed on evidence.
Its so sad that those that are bad arnt afraid to be though those that are good tend to be spineless. There are far to many bystanders in the world and do what you believe is right and just.
Awareness shouldn't make you crawel away from the light. You should progress to be the best that you can and help as many as you can along the way. I'm sorry you went through depression that is hard. Get out there and explore what makes you feel good like dancing, running, acting or what the fuck ever you know. than people will be more drawn to you. who cares if you are cynical and know too much thats grate. the right sort of others will appreciate this aslong as you consider them to.

BlueAngel
12-14-2009, 10:25 PM
This forum does not employ mental health professionals for persons who are in need of those services.

You never know whom or what you might encounter here.

Many members of this forum delight in trying to destablize one's mental health.

It may only serve to do you more harm than good to seek the help of anonymous internet posters on this forum for whatever it is that ails you.

Not trying to mean.

Just advising you of the facts.

Please consider looking for help from people who are not anonymous posters on a conspiracy forum such as your doctor.

mello..melliexo
12-15-2009, 03:59 AM
Yeah i totally agree with you.
you really don't know what type of people you incounter here there are some seriouse oddballs which could cause seriouse emotional damadge.

You have to weigh up the knowledge, i dn't know really
it would be impossible to define the factors that contribute to your state anyhow as a whole just bassed on one post

magneeto
12-16-2009, 12:19 AM
I sufered with depresion for awile then got into Nikken magnetic farinfrared bed and haven't been depressed since I also weare the large neck magnet during the day to keep sharpe or if I have a bad day that way.
Your doing well if your of meds and all this new world order mess doesn't bother you to the point of falling off again. I've had a few moments lately

Algebra
12-18-2009, 10:37 AM
Im manic deppresive wich means extreme highs and desperate lows.
The thing you need to remember is that although you feel like your alone in your thoughts. Many people out there feel exactly the same. Being different doesnt mean theres something wrong with you. It just means your more sensitive to the things most people let fly straight over there heads. While they walk around blind to the truth. You have to take on the responsiblity of dealing with it or it will drive you mad. A task which can seem overwhelming at times.

Just because you realize something that most would'nt. does'nt mean your paranoid however be careful who you share these with as they may see you that way.

Thats why sites like this are great because you can share things you've noticed or experienced with people who wont just laugh at and judge you, but instead. Offer some objective arguments as whether it could be true or not. There are some exceptions but just ignore the freaks.

mello..melliexo
12-19-2009, 04:55 AM
Im manic deppresive wich means extreme highs and desperate lows.
The thing you need to remember is that although you feel like your alone in your thoughts. Many people out there feel exactly the same. Being different doesnt mean theres something wrong with you. It just means your more sensitive to the things most people let fly straight over there heads. While they walk around blind to the truth. You have to take on the responsiblity of dealing with it or it will drive you mad. A task which can seem overwhelming at times.

Just because you realize something that most would'nt. does'nt mean your paranoid however be careful who you share these with as they may see you that way.

Thats why sites like this are great because you can share things you've noticed or experienced with people who wont just laugh at and judge you, but instead. Offer some objective arguments as whether it could be true or not. There are some exceptions but just ignore the freaks.
i agree 100%

someone
12-19-2009, 01:39 PM
I appreciate what your are saying and I have already seen my doctor and waiting to get a letter off a councellor regarding an appointment. I accept any negative comments on here and have only had one, have had very few comments altogether yet lots of people have read my post (which often happens). I got 2 positive ones also, one 2 lines and one a page or so which was a real surprise. Things got a bit on top of me and it would be nice to try to find like minds which is really difficult when you are studying conspiracy theories and are looking into stuff in this world on a more open level. Also, I try to take a step "out of the world" and try to look at it as it is and just ponder possibilities.

The fact that people have such conflicting opinions says alot, even with much research and information. Instead of just admitting well they are just that-opinions (options we think are right) and we shouldn't latch onto any particular one because who bloody knows-we know so little about our world and race etc. Just cos it fits in and thats how we feel which is often convenient and how we would prefer things were, not necessarily cos they are like that in reality.

Obviously conspiracy theories throw a spanner in the works and people are very reluctant to change an opinion especially when it has a negative aspect and challenges their view of the nature of reality etc. and is not in the majority of mind sets. I think THAT in itself says a lot about the intelligence of the human race. Its like not allowing yourself to think and reason properly. I'm not saying believe in it all, but people even seem to have a block even in just looking at the stuff. We are creatures of habit and very influenced by other people to the point of it not being helpfull in all kinds of situations, this seriously needs looked at, we could be so much more intelligent as a race. Anyway thanks again for your post it was a wise one.

Algebra
12-19-2009, 01:50 PM
I appreciate what your are saying and I have already seen my doctor and waiting to get a letter off a councellor regarding an appointment. I accept any negative comments on here and have only had one, have had very few comments altogether yet lots of people have read my post (which often happens). I got 2 positive ones also, one 2 lines and one a page or so which was a real surprise. Things got a bit on top of me and it would be nice to try to find like minds which is really difficult when you are studying conspiracy theories and are looking into stuff in this world on a more open level. Also, I try to take a step "out of the world" and try to look at it as it is and just ponder possibilities.

The fact that people have such conflicting opinions says alot, even with much research and information. Instead of just admitting well they are just that-opinions (options we think are right) and we shouldn't latch onto any particular one because who bloody knows-we know so little about our world and race etc. Just cos it fits in and thats how we feel which is often convenient and how we would prefer things were, not necessarily cos they are like that in reality.

Obviously conspiracy theories throw a spanner in the works and people are very reluctant to change an opinion especially when it has a negative aspect and challenges their view of the nature of reality etc. and is not in the majority of mind sets. I think THAT in itself says a lot about the intelligence of the human race. Its like not allowing yourself to think and reason properly. I'm not saying believe in it all, but people even seem to have a block even in just looking at the stuff. We are creatures of habit and very influenced by other people to the point of it not being helpfull in all kinds of situations, this seriously needs looked at, we could be so much more intelligent as a race. Anyway thanks again for your post it was a wise one.

Take a look at a series called "small Secrets" on youtube. It sounds like it could be right up your street. Sorry i havent included a link but im a bit pushed for time. Should be easy enough to find. It talks about Quantum Communication. Very interesting stuff. Im going to open a thread on it soon.

someone
12-19-2009, 03:03 PM
i agree 100%

Firstly I may have accidently sent a reply which was to someone elses comments about seeing doctor, a bit confused as Im new to all this internet communication!
My sister was diagnosed with manic depression, I always find it amazes me when I open up to people how it "seems to be a small world", synchronicity or whatever you call it. The amount of times my Mum and I have been talking or met someone and they or someone they know has suffered with similar difficulties.

Even when I was younger (early teens) I felt different and not on the same wavelength to most people. Suppose I just didn't find a platform to express myself freely where I could be respected and liked just for being me. For me its been a combination of things and I think the amount of people being (or claimed to being) abducted by aliens etc gave another possible reason for stuff I don't understand about myself. Like the mind sets I had and negative view of the world and the wasted years of just working, meditating and practicing healing and thinking that was the best I could do. Just being so narrow minded and so not achieving the very thing I set out to achive in the first place. Now I'm off the medication it's like I've had the wool taken off my eyes (unless it is purely coincidence, but to be honest it's the first time I have started to think more rationally and balanced -ever). Its like I am looking back on somebodies life that isn't mine. I am so angry that this has happened to me and now, in my early thirties I have had to deal with this "awakening", conspiracy theories and coming off medication all at once.

I now realise a lot of my difiiculties were self-inflicted, but having been to endless appointments with physchotherapists, councellors etc. there has been no identification of this. I now know it had a lot to do with how I thought and reacted to the world around me, which was really odd and had negative consequences- yet this was NOT from my childhood, reactions etc, believe me I have analised till Im blue in the face. I think they expected my parents divorce, my sister going in and out of mental hospitals to have had a negative effect when actually, I was very strong emotionally and dealt well with those issues and was very mature for my age. So basicaslly, I went to these appointments doomed as they basically were looking for a reason as to why I had problems when they were obviously NOT physchological reactions which were distorted (mental illness) and to be honest I haven't a bloody clue where it all came from as these "thoughts and feelings" towards others and the world around me had no basis from anywhere. Except they were strong and I didn't even recognise I had them at the time. I just wish they could have looked at my situation from a different angle and said well the way you feel towards yourself and other people needs to change or this isn't going to go away. Looking back it is so bloody obvious and I am so mad with these brainwashed people that go in there listening etc with their limited agendas when the whole point with anybody and therapy is RECOGNISING THE NEED THAT SOMETHING NEEDS TO CHANGE, WHAT AND HOW, THE OBSTICALES etc. I just wanted to know why I felt differently and was so emotionally advanced for my age I became over analytical and it was like i was a sponge with feelings and also had lots of thoughts about things going on and strong emotions. Like I felt so much more about so much more which is where the mind washing conspiracy thing comes in again. Just a thought that I feel "rare" in that stuff I question and think about most people take for granted and can't even see. It's almost like I analyse stuff say an emotion about a situation but then I think, well hang on-what is the bloody point we are addicted to negative emotions which make us feel crap and a lot of the time we don't even realise this let alone try to do something about it. Why on earth as a species would we do something repetetively negative when it does not benefit us? Its like an obsession. To be honest if you think about it "non-mentally ill people" are mentally "ill" to a degree as they make themselves physically ill over addicitons to emotions. Anger, feeling helpless through not expressing things for example. But because most of us do it to some degree-it is normal. We are really quite thick with emotions and how we feel when you think how long we have been on the earth and how obvious a lot of humanities problems stem from this. One way I feel different to people is the fact I can even recognise this and that it is really odd that an intelligent race can be so unintelligent and unnecessarily so on so many levels. The fact that this isn't talked about and questioned in the media, or well anywhere really. etc. Well before I was aware of a possibility of aliens manipulating the human race, I felt something was not right that we are so brainwashed for thinking beings. Whether aliens are responsible is debatable, but that fact that people don't even recognise our "distorted development" as a race and recognise "aliens" even as a remote possibility is scary. As there is loads of eveidence to suggest aliens have already been with us wether or not they have or not, needs to at least be acknowledged.

In the meantime we need to learn from each other and be honest with ourselves which seems to much to ask for, yet makes logical sense. This is why I struggle to get on. I am a seeker, and want to know myself and the world we are in and try and make sense of it. Are many people really trying to achieve this honestly and sensibly or are they just painting their own picture of their own suitable reality which isn't going to achive a lot? This fact alone says alot about the human race and how illogical we are.

Sorry gone off on a rant again, better go Im just rattling.

Algebra
12-19-2009, 03:26 PM
[quote=someone;63765]Firstly I may have accidently sent a reply which was to someone elses comments about seeing doctor, a bit confused as Im new to all this internet communication!
My sister was diagnosed with manic depression, I always find it amazes me when I open up to people how it "seems to be a small world", synchronicity or whatever you call it. The amount of times my Mum and I have been talking or met someone and they or someone they know has suffered with similar difficulties.

Even when I was younger (early teens) I felt different and not on the same wavelength to most people. Suppose I just didn't find a platform to express myself freely where I could be respected and liked just for being me. For me its been a combination of things and I think the amount of people being (or claimed to being) abducted by aliens etc gave another possible reason for stuff I don't understand about myself. Like the mind sets I had and negative view of the world and the wasted years of just working, meditating and practicing healing and thinking that was the best I could do. Just being so narrow minded and so not achieving the very thing I set out to achive in the first place. Now I'm off the medication it's like I've had the wool taken off my eyes (unless it is purely coincidence, but to be honest it's the first time I have started to think more rationally and balanced -ever). Its like I am looking back on somebodies life that isn't mine. I am so angry that this has happened to me and now, in my early thirties I have had to deal with this "awakening", conspiracy theories and coming off medication all at once.

I now realise a lot of my difiiculties were self-inflicted, but having been to endless appointments with physchotherapists, councellors etc. there has been no identification of this. I now know it had a lot to do with how I thought and reacted to the world around me, which was really odd and had negative consequences- yet this was NOT from my childhood, reactions etc, believe me I have analised till Im blue in the face. I think they expected my parents divorce, my sister going in and out of mental hospitals to have had a negative effect when actually, I was very strong emotionally and dealt well with those issues and was very mature for my age. So basicaslly, I went to these appointments doomed as they basically were looking for a reason as to why I had problems when they were obviously NOT physchological reactions which were distorted (mental illness) and to be honest I haven't a bloody clue where it all came from as these "thoughts and feelings" towards others and the world around me had no basis from anywhere. Except they were strong and I didn't even recognise I had them at the time. I just wish they could have looked at my situation from a different angle and said well the way you feel towards yourself and other people needs to change or this isn't going to go away. Looking back it is so bloody obvious and I am so mad with these brainwashed people that go in there listening etc with their limited agendas when the whole point with anybody and therapy is RECOGNISING THE NEED THAT SOMETHING NEEDS TO CHANGE, WHAT AND HOW, THE OBSTICALES etc. I just wanted to know why I felt differently and was so emotionally advanced for my age I became over analytical and it was like i was a sponge with feelings and also had lots of thoughts about things going on and strong emotions. Like I felt so much more about so much more which is where the mind washing conspiracy thing comes in again. Just a thought that I feel "rare" in that stuff I question and think about most people take for granted and can't even see. It's almost like I analyse stuff say an emotion about a situation but then I think, well hang on-what is the bloody point we are addicted to negative emotions which make us feel crap and a lot of the time we don't even realise this let alone try to do something about it. Why on earth as a species would we do something repetetively negative when it does not benefit us? Its like an obsession. To be honest if you think about it "non-mentally ill people" are mentally "ill" to a degree as they make themselves physically ill over addicitons to emotions. Anger, feeling helpless through not expressing things for example. But because most of us do it to some degree-it is normal. We are really quite thick with emotions and how we feel when you think how long we have been on the earth and how obvious a lot of humanities problems stem from this. One way I feel different to people is the fact I can even recognise this and that it is really odd that an intelligent race can be so unintelligent and unnecessarily so on so many levels. The fact that this isn't talked about and questioned in the media, or well anywhere really. etc. Well before I was aware of a possibility of aliens manipulating the human race, I felt something was not right that we are so brainwashed for thinking beings. Whether aliens are responsible is debatable, but that fact that people don't even recognise our "distorted development" as a race and recognise "aliens" even as a remote possibility is scary. As there is loads of eveidence to suggest aliens have already been with us wether or not they have or not, needs to at least be acknowledged.

In the meantime we need to learn from each other and be honest with ourselves which seems to much to ask for, yet makes logical sense. This is why I struggle to get on. I am a seeker, and want to know myself and the world we are in and try and make sense of it. Are many people really trying to achieve this honestly and sensibly or are they just painting their own picture of their own suitable reality which isn't going to achive a lot? This fact alone says alot about the human race and how illogical we are.

Sorry gone off on a rant again, better go Im just rattling.[/quote

A lot of what you talk about is exactly what i go through when i get depressed. I find myself annalysing every aspect of who i am and why i do and say things and all my memories are now tainted by my obsesive search for answers. Even though im not sure what the question is. Theres a great saying. "Any fool can dig a hole" and its true. If you keep picking away pretty soon you'll unravell yourself to the point where you dont even recognize yourself anymore. I believe this is where many cases of split personality and schizophrenia merge from. You hate the person you are because you've annalysed every part of your being with a negative eye. Then you try to create a new you in the image who you wish you could be instead.

It sounds like a clieche but you have to learn to respect and at least try to like yourself again before you can begin to move forward. Our identity is what sets us apart from everyone else and if you dont know who you are then you come accross a wierd to everyone else. Theres no magic potion and psychology and psychiatry is all based on educated guesses. No one can understand the complexity of the mind or even begin to understand what motivates are thoughts.

Quantum Communication is the closest ive got to the burning questions i have about reality and the reason we exist in the first place. Take a look at that series i mention i think you will be enlighted a little.

mello..melliexo
12-20-2009, 04:12 PM
Ummm im short of time but i promise to address quantum communication a little later i have my suspicions, my mum has met David Wynn Miller and ill get some info from her before i address this but
Algebra i was wondering why it says in your name satan's servant? i went back to check and either youv changed it or im trippin ha never mind:confused:

Algebra
12-20-2009, 04:19 PM
Ummm im short of time but i promise to address quantum communication a little later i have my suspicions, my mum has met David Wynn Miller and ill get some info from her before i address this but
Algebra i was wondering why it says in your name satan's servant? i went back to check and either youv changed it or im trippin ha never mind:confused:

No your not tripping i changed to piss public enemy no 1 off. Read some of his posts and you'll see why. Hope you take a look at quantum communication its fascinating stuff. After seeing it i felt like id found the missing link. The thing ive been searching for this whole time.

Laterz.

Truthbetold
12-29-2009, 05:47 AM
hi someone, hope your still checking this topic.

I too have had the feelings of feeling different than other people all of my life.
the ignorance of most people is sickening.
Two months ago i was diagnosed with ADHD and while the medication (ritalin) took care of the chaos, it made my mind go totallly numb.

Why is it that western medicine fixes the syptoms, but never the cause. I discussed it with my doctor but he laughed at it.

But I have used hypnotism and chi channeling and it working wonders. So regardless of you believe that stuff it works for me, and thats enough.

For finding more knowledge.., I suggest to look on the torrent networks for occult stuff. (if you're afraid of it, remember that knowing something isnt the same as pratiscing something.

And please keep and open mind, but i dont think you have any difficulty with that ;)

BlueAngel
12-29-2009, 05:59 PM
Everyone suffers from depression now and again.

It's normal.

You're not different than anyone.

It's just that few people talk about it openly so you think you are the only one.

You just need to give yourself a good kick in the ar*e cause life is worth living.

Every minute of it.

Look around at the beauty in the world irregardless of the BS they want you to see and become entrapped in.

The sky, the moon, the stars.

They exist and they are beautiful.

The mountains, the trees, the rivers, the lakes.

The oceans, the night and day break.

The sun shining on your face.

It's all beautiful.

Just let your eyes SEE the beauty and hold this beauty in your heart.

It will overcome the ache.

Hope you're feeling better.

:)

albie
12-30-2009, 03:47 AM
Obviously conspiracy theories throw a spanner in the works and people are very reluctant to change an opinion especially when it has a negative aspect and challenges their view of the nature of reality etc. and is not in the majority of mind sets. I think THAT in itself says a lot about the intelligence of the human race. Its like not allowing yourself to think and reason properly. I'm not saying believe in it all, but people even seem to have a block even in just looking at the stuff. We are creatures of habit and very influenced by other people to the point of it not being helpfull in all kinds of situations, this seriously needs looked at, we could be so much more intelligent as a race. Anyway thanks again for your post it was a wise one.

The block comes when you read unreliable evidence of conspiracy theory. I was a conspiracy believer until I started looking into it. I see 90% of you guys still believing in stuff that has been shown to be BS. So you have to take some blame for the closed mind set of the general public: who you have to convince for your theories to matter.

albie
12-30-2009, 03:50 AM
hi someone, hope your still checking this topic.

I too have had the feelings of feeling different than other people all of my life.
the ignorance of most people is sickening.
Two months ago i was diagnosed with ADHD and while the medication (ritalin) took care of the chaos, it made my mind go totallly numb.

Why is it that western medicine fixes the syptoms, but never the cause. I discussed it with my doctor but he laughed at it.

But I have used hypnotism and chi channeling and it working wonders. So regardless of you believe that stuff it works for me, and thats enough.

For finding more knowledge.., I suggest to look on the torrent networks for occult stuff. (if you're afraid of it, remember that knowing something isnt the same as pratiscing something.

And please keep and open mind, but i dont think you have any difficulty with that ;)

Modern science does not work because you don't believe in it. You don't believe in it because you are a conspiracy theory fan. YOU are causing your own pain.

Truthbetold
12-30-2009, 06:07 AM
if you read my post , i stated the the ritalin works wonders, so you can cut the crap.

What it didnt solve was the chaos that caused it.. and what's conspiracy about taoism?

Truthbetold
12-30-2009, 06:12 AM
Modern science does not work because you don't believe in it. You don't believe in it because you are a conspiracy theory fan. YOU are causing your own pain.

uhhm arent you the one opening topics around reptiles?

someone
01-09-2010, 03:01 PM
[quote=Truthbetold;64099]hi someone, hope your still checking this topic.

Im sorry you have been diagnosed with ADHD and truly hope you get sorted out as lately I have had another dark patch so I know what it feels to have thoughts racing through your mind that you cant control. However, today have felt better, which at the moment is why I don't come on here very often- I only look at comments when I feel I can cope incase I get any that may affect me negatively. You don't know what comments you are going to find. Thankyou for yours it is nice to know there are humans out there! The doctor probably laughed at you saying medicine fixing the symptoms as you are spot on and so he reacted like that as you hit a nerve and that it is truth he doesnt like to hear. It also reveals how limited modern science which is admitting its limitations. They seem to think they are doing so much good with all these chemicals and "breakthroughs". Yes it is helpfull and we have learned and chieved a lot, but they should also admit the limit and side effects of these imperfect solutions. It is like they are blinded by false success instead of admitting, well actually we have a long way to go and people need better solutions. They would be much more "true doctors" if you got an answer like: well hopefully one day in the future we will be able to find the causes and eliminate them effectively, but for now we are doing our best at managing symptoms through drugs, which we have come along way with, however there is much to learn. I wonder how medicine etc. would progress if the "experts" with all their knowledge used it in new ways. Thinking differently and coming at the problem from another angle, through creative thinking we have been able to overcome problems in the past. Like the guy who said the world must be round. Instead of trying to fit things into a rigid simplistic concept how about admitting, well maybe this thing isn't how we think it is and is actually far more complex and sophisticated than our minds can cope with. But we have ego and like to take the glory and bask in knowing it all. Thats that rant over with! Hypnotism - hmm I think you may even be able to get that on the NHS, whether you can for positive thinking (with history of depression etc) rather than stopping smoking I don't know as they probably don't have any "proof" that it works (because they won't have spent money on it in case it does and down go the drugs sales). I have heard of chi as an energy and have tried "spiritual healing" and "reiki" but not chi channelling. I suppose you really have to try a lot of different approaches untill you find one that benefits you. Its a pity practitioners of different energy therapies/natural remedies arent voluntarily compiling a database of feed back from clients as it may help build up a picture of what is the most effective at treating different symptoms. It would also identify if therapists are actually helping people rather than just people making money out of energy healing when some may have little effect (and others be good at it). Pity they can't measure it, or have physics/clarevoyants "see" it and if they can pick up the energy to test if they are actually genuine. Then you could go to someone that at least had a proven track record and people who weren't very good would get weeded out. ie. you wouldn't waste as much money trying stuff by pot luck. I suppose one way would be to go to people who are highly recommended and well known for their success/have been in magazines. But then it could also be that you need to be "in harmony" with a therapists individual energies-think I will meditate on it and see if I get any suggestions-not saying it will work but worth a try. Happy New Year.

Truthbetold
01-10-2010, 05:33 AM
Happy Newyear to you, hope things will get a lot better for you this year :)

I sorted the ADHD thing almost out... I dont even use the ritalin anymore, focussing my energy seems to work a lot better and doesnt have any sideeffects.

I forgot that I did exactly that when i was younger, but I dismissed it at a certain moment, because I thought it was BS. (about when i was 8 i think)

I wouldnt spend another dime on therapist if I were you, I would go of the meds ASAP. All the stuff is available on the internet for free, PM me if you need it, Will upload it for you.

You should try to get a healty as possible diet, it works wonders. (i always thought it was some hippyBS to only eat salads and nuts.)

Stop Smoking, Coffee, Alcohol or any other drugs.. they numb your mind, so you cant channel your Chi/Astral energy or whatever you wanna call it.

IF you truly wanna feel better, Dont watch anymore tv, the 50/60 hz freqs.are damaging your health. Put of electrical stuff off as much as possible.. they arent nearly as bad as the TV but it might just help a little.

Try to optimize your sleepingpattern it also helps a lot.
Get out and run, or anything active, the sunlight is good for your health (even if there are clouds, its better to go outside than stay in. ) It's snowing all day here so I should go outside myself:p

Oh and what I find always very relaxing, Try making music or paint, anything creative (work for me, might not work for you:rolleyes: )

If you get any negative thought.. do the following;
Close your eyes, relax, visualise the thought and put it in a box and kick it away (all in your mind ofcourse ;))

I hope this helps


* one last thing, could you please hit the enter knob once in a while when your typing, makes for lot easier reading.

totherevolution1
01-15-2010, 01:07 PM
my friend i feel your pain, this is majorly affecting my life, all my friends are still inside the matrix so its hard to really connect with anybody, i did try to inform people but they didnt like it, i hate to say it but they're still programmed,you can see parts of there soul shining through but its mostly smothered by the disease of the mainstream, dont give in man one day our time will come, it may be a lonely place to be now but if we can pull through this fucked up time im sure there is something better on the other side,something more suited to the true nature of our existence, remember dont give in to the negative feelings people tend you place on you,dont feel out of place they just havent caught up with the truth yet,the time is coming, the peaceful way is global non compliance, but people wont understand what they are not complying to, i still beleive the best way is the internet systematical distribtuion of information all over the fucking world!! if we all get our minds together we could do this, put the information in the places where the blind are bound to look, i know this is already being done but we need to get the facts as they stand together, in an easy to absorb way,the average man isnt going to sit around long enough to take the hole thing in, it needs to be codl hard facts, quotes from the illuminists, documented legislation, something they could read and its right there in there faces, lets get together and get this on the go, peace to all

Truthbetold
01-15-2010, 01:51 PM
I to have tried to help people, but they are just so blinded by this world
*edit.. there are much more people awake than you might think :)

BlueAngel
01-15-2010, 09:10 PM
I to have tried to help people, but they are just so blinded by this world
*edit.. there are much more people awake than you might think :)

There are none so blind as those who will not see.

outfrom
08-05-2010, 08:20 AM
Breaking this up to make it more readable.


Firstly: This part of my book (!) was at the end until I realised not everyone is going to read to the end so I have put it first here goes

If any one else is being effected emotionally/mentally by "stuff out there in the world" (conspiracy theories, aliens,wars, etc.) and is aware of the sheer misinformatition coupled with the fact that they just think they feel and think differently to the mainstream. Can we have a chat please.

There may not be too many of us around. Am replying to your post.
Inserted at the breaks in your lengthy post.


I would really like to try and find people that think more outside the box and how they have coped with this in their lives. Knowing this information about the world around you does have a consiquence and I feel like I am living a lie not being able to answer a question about "what do you think about Obama?" or isn't this terrible and say what I think.

Has been no real successfully coping with this. Still going forward though.


Its like I am not a sheep but I am having to live amongst sheep. I just feel isolated and you can't just talk about this "stuff" anyway never mind how you create a life for yourself knowing this stuff.

Probably not really able to create a life for yourself for the duration.
Not really able to discuss this along the way.


Where do you go to find people and friends, how you can help the situation/educate the public etc. The need to be able to express yourself with people who don't think your mental health is wonky and can try and get to know you as a complete person with valid view points and ability to see stuff others can't.

One is isolated from life around it. Venturing around is well dousable out.


Is there not like somewhere you can volunteer and get food and board ? Is someone trying to set up a commune where people like minded can be together (like with eco-communities, spiritual communes)? Any ideas.

Nope. You are on your own. We are scattered about. The time isn't now
meaning present day.

Basically I have the freedom to go anywhere I want as long as I don't have to dip into savings too much, I want to help somehow and be around people in the know and doing something about this mess. I can no longer sit and watch and feel that I know so little about this planet and ourselves-I really need to be able to get my head more into gear and understand where we are at.

You will have to handle it on your own. There is no getting together
near by.


Ok the mess we are in, the sheer mass of theories and information available, I think its about time we seriously admit to ourselves where we are really and how little we know about our planet and where we are heading.

Things are the way they are be design. Not randomly there like this.
Man-made efforts are behind it.


With that said, I just find it hard to believe how few people are struggling mentally and emotionally with the state the world is in, worrying about our future as a race, if we are going to screw the planet up (is it not at the point yet where everyday people are using logic and comon sense and thinking well there is a possibility we could have been infiltrated by aliens given the evidence and the mess-maybe we better even just look just incase because of the implications-if its not true, at least we have looked into it as a possibility given our limited knowledge). Unless most people don't really admit this or take it on board - I suppose this takes a lot (things people struggle with everyday seem small in comparison).

It's not really aliens that's behind it. Is the powers that be that are in
the unseen world of the seeable world of now. Present-day life about
on this planet.


Frankly it's a miracle I am coping so well as I try to be very rational and honest with the earthly situation the only comfort being the relief the possibility that "this may not be all be our mess".

It's not our doing. It's by design from without. Other interests hold sway
over it all as things are.


I don't think people realise how REAL and SERIOUS the situation is, I mean its bad enough even if you don't go beyond the media version and the environmental damage and famine etc. Are people numb and dumb? I used to think I was over sensitive, maybe I am more honest with myself (and can't pull wool over my own eyes as effectively cos something is pulling at me within) and I allow myself to be aware of more, its like I don't filter reality the same as every one else.

It's not really in the hands of present-day life. We all live in our own little
world. Manage for yourself as you are. There is no all around presently.


I am really struggling with even being able to just get on in the world, to be honest I have struggled in getting on with people anyway. Yet I am even questioning this.

Our state and the world around are not really conductive together.


I don't understand how a confident and outgoing personality type can end up so isolated. Having said that run of the mill "normal" things were of no interest to me. I do like to get up and dance and have a laugh but feel like I am using people as that is all I get out of the situation, they aren't really friends. Don't get me wrong I would have loved to have made friends and done fun stuff aswell but alcohol didn't interest me (which immediately makes you odd and in N England its blinkered era going back to my youth when you were lucky to see a black person and you were a freak if you did yoga) and the whole thing of getting to know people is long and complex-going through the normal processes in western society and what you talk about.

It's all by design to work against. There isn't much of anything as life goes
on, as it is, that we partake in.


To be honest a lot of people don't really want to know themselves deeper or ask normal questions about why we are here etc. which is fine but I question why? Isn't that a basic human thing.

Supposedly. Lots of people don't have an inside tract to themselves.
Most people are lorded over from without. There is only a few around
that can handle it from at their own end inside of themselves.


Its like these people are just existing off surface layors as that is all they are aware of. Where is the wonder? The questioning? The what ifs? Can you just get your kicks off booze, shopping and footy and feel fully satisfied and not a hole inside?

People are probably not fully satisfied to such extent. In a real way,
no one has anything to do with anything. Currently the outside world
keeps the ones that would kick up quiet. Hands are tied. It's complex
in scope. Not in our own hands.


Im sorry but it aint normal for an intelligent race to be brain washed by materialism and wonder why they are so unhappy with so many problems. I even question if people are even functioning in a normal way. Hang ups they have are pathetic, egos, their own insecurities, gosh are wereally that frail?

No. We are not really that frail. The powers that be, have it all over us.
There are just a few around like you. We are scattered about. The
populace around is another thing. Seperate in themselves.


We are just creating a non-sense world. Just say it like it is, say what you mean. I just want to blurt out what Im about, my experiences what I think and does anybody even feel remotely the same cos its bloody lonely.

These things subside if you stay single past the age of 24.
I wouldn't be versed in married/common law way around.


They have emotional hang-ups their own baggage which a lot of people don't even know they have got, let alone analyse to the extent I do. I say superficial as I wanted to develop spiritually, (when I say this I mean to encompas whatever it means to develop more as an intellegient being) I wanted to genuinely grow as a whole being.

Most people aren't looking at able to do that. As you know, you can only
see so in yourself, as desiring to be able to.


I even question my emotions, really delve and find out more about myself. Why I feel different/seem to be experiencing the world from perspectives that aren't "normal" etc.

Directly conscious of yourself is not all there is in the make-up of ones'
self. You automatically mix together in yourself. We are foreignly
controlled over from without. They use us against ourselves.


I was always a deep thinker and was emotionally very mature and aware of stuff from a young age. I knew all the stuff psychotherapists were saying to me - I know that but how do I get on with people when I want to feel and exist beyond their level?

Chances are you have been latched onto by the world around you
where you are. They must have took adavantage of your vulnerability
in your younger years.


I can't just be happy on fobbing myself off with job, mortgage, girly nights out, going through "normal channells" of getting to know a person etc, the restricted conversation and normal ways of thinking and being.

That's probably a good sign.


Even new age stuff people get sucked into, it just ISN'T rational on a global scale. New agers really do "believe", I know there are many chanellings and some are genuine information of some use from somewhere. But you just have to look to see what a big mess it all is. There is some truth in many things, but to believe blindly instead of thinking logically, ok so why aren't we REALLY receiving USEFULL INFORMATION and why aren't they telling us about all this other stuff. If there is all this higher intelligence why the big disagreement and mess? Even the new age has much disinformation and control, although some principles have some elements of truth.

We are apparently vulnerable to being hooked by what truths they
dangle before us. From there they want to reel you in and fill your head
with errant and erratic thoughts. See things in your own eyes.


Obviously people are receiving stuff from somewhere as some are coming out with information beyond their knowledge (or that they couldn't just reel off) and some of it they obviously couldn't have made up and is consistent. We just aren't as safe - it isnt all loving and fluffy and how come they never admit to all this negative alien abduction stuff (conveniently).

That's probably a long story. Much more ado about nothing than there
needs to be.


I would love to be able to find like-minded people who are also struggling with mental/physchological things and how this fits into conspiracy theories.

There's not too many around. You are isolated to yourself. It's the way
things are right now in this lifetime.


People who aren't going to laugh or think oh we've got a nutcase here. To be honest I think I have quite a good mind in that I look at evidence, try to take a step back and see the whole picture and lately have been trying to think things through.

Your eyes in yourself are probably open enough for you to handle it.
You're not on easy street though. Good chance that you are in
shark infested waters in your immediate vicinity.


This involves trying to keep an open mind not getting sucked in to things and remaining vigilant. Are most people doing this as they research? Are they aware of hang on I'm getting hooked and even obsessed with only looking at UFO stuff rather than really educating themselves by looking at stuff that hasn't got the "wow" factor and is mundane but actually is essential and relevant to the situation?

Most people are not really in sight of what's going on. The way things
are right now, most people need somebody that can lead the way.
No such leader around present-day. As well there's no masses to be
led anywhere. Such point in time, appears to be, lifetimes away still.


World history, human pyschology, the media, the way government system has been created, looking at how all the pieces fit together.

All the pieces fit together somehow but it's a task no one is up to.


What are emotions but things WE have very little control over and yet there are umpteen ways of being able to have be better control over them. Why is it so simple yet difficult to control them? Where do they come from? Why are there so many emotional-disorders? Are these even normal and natural as they occur or are aliens constantly tellepathically influencing them as they project into the mass sub-consciouss? Or have we been genetically implanted. Lets face it, its a possibility.

Once again, our direct conscious state of functioning is not all there is
as we automatically run to be ourselves. The rest of ourself is in
foreign control. Life as it is, is man-made to boot. Right there inside
of ourselves. Currently we appear to be an artificial life-form.
Not really a natural life-form but one we can naturalize ourselves as.


Why is humanity so destructive with its use of negative thoughts and emotions to the point of it not being logical or serving a purpose? They are like stuck records that play the same stuff. A lot of people aren't even aware they do this. For example being critical of people and constantly making judgements, the need to talk behind peoples backs. It has become obsessive. Our addicition to soaps and negative emotions. Well I hate them, give me some good feel stuff please not doom and gloom!

It's all by design by foreign interests different of us. They have the
upper hand. This life-time could just be a starting point to regroup from.
What happened is housed in our roots. Not to our knowledge. There is
both good feel stuff AND doom and gloom. Not one and not the other.
Both are there.


The media and the main channells are mannipulating us psychologically in a big way and the fact that all this crap appeals to a lot of people is frightening.

Once again, it's all be design by the powers that be.


Another way in which humanity is not living its natural potential (not that it is ever encouraged or shown how to do this).

They don't want us to be able to develope about in a natural to ourself
way. They have us out of commission and they want to keep us that way.


Finally I do not mean to affend anyone by saying most people are superficial (most of us have to exist like this in an everyday world which is to a degree normal, however how many people even want to go beyond or have time?), its nobodies fault that they need or don't need more from life than their lives give them, you can only be what you can think and feel and what your desires are. What even influences this?

It's all influenced from outside of ourself. Most people are up in the air.
Not too many are looking at managing in themselves as things are.
Most are had by out around irregardless of any effort they could make.
It's all above and beyond here we are.



Its like as we are becoming "more intelligent" and more people are wanting answers to philosophical etc questions, the more society is less geared to us finding out the answers and is pumping more materialism and distractions into our world. Does anyone feel that they cannot cope and feel the need to try and understand more about the world around them and all the conspiricies? Is any one else reacting in a "normal" confused and what the hell do we do now kind of way? Its like a mass anasthaetic!

The powers that be are doing what they can to keep the masses from
getting stirred up. They would quickly quell any uprising to boot.
It's magic.


Come on, its all very well discussing the physical stuff, but what about how people are FEELING about it? Even I, having recently come off medication (for depression) completely for the first time in 10 years, have some how not had a negative reaction to exposing myself to David Ickes stuff and god knows what else. Partly this in itself is making me question stuff, its like my mind is more balanced. I am a different person and see things differently to what I used to. Its like I can think, more fully and balanced. I just can't explain it.

The medications you were on were probably dulling your senses in your
self. Could be your inner workings are chipping in. Not all is the direct
conscious self in one being its' self.


Its a miracle having found all kinds of horrible stuff that is going on that it hasn't made me really down. Unless, deep down I owe it to society NOT to let it get to me and NOT being beaten by this, that I am not achieving anything or helping by being like that. Its like a motivation to DO SOMETHING.

No, you don't owe it to society. It's your inner sense of be. You would
not be helping yourself by crumbling. Motivation is in your self.


I do have very active mind and get lots of thoughts which is a pity I can't focus this, think I need to sort some stuff out! I needed to get stuff off my chest.

Your active mind is the outside world that you cannot see pipe-ing
through to your comprehendible self. They don't want you to be able to
focus on things. You will need to get your thoughts of things sorted out.
Seeing things in perspective will help you to settle them in yourself.


6 months or so I "got into conspiracy theories" which involved much research including days of watching stuff my friend had researched. Basically I am open minded and have allowed myself to question things on the planet and accept various things no matter how "off the wall" as they do have supportive evidence and when you put pieces of a jigsaw together and just say, ok lets just see..

It's the way things come together from unrealized prior.


David Icke, Montauk series books, the illuminati etc. They aren't out of the question. To be honest the mind control thing or whatever would seem possible, suppression of rational thinking call it what you like. I am just finding myself even more isolated as I just cannot believe an average thinker (I have no degrees!) can't even think rationally for themselves as the state of the world is diabolical.

Present-day life is suppressed. You are in isolation. Lots of stuff goes on.


Do people really think that out there is humanity at its pinnacle of intelligence? The fact that people DO NOT come to that question and that it is obvious our full important knowledge of scientific information is NOT readily available. The fact that many people do not even admit paranormal stuff/aliens as reality purely by the sheer quantity of eye witnesses.

The powers that be are all over everything from above and beyond us.
They have us covered through and through.
They are not sharing that intelligence with us AND
they do not want us to catch on.


People by their very nature cannot grasp and even begin to understand the world in which we live as most of it "doesnt exist" or is made up of things which are labelled as physically impossible (a basic understanding of quantum physics makes us realise actually this reality DOESN'T act strictly how we thought and that the observer actually changes the physical reality purely by observation).

That would be somewhat of a long story to relate.
I have a vague handle on it.


When I started looking into not readily available scientific info that makes other dimensions and stuff probable etc I wondered why there are so many people instantly dismissing the possibility of aliens having run us for thousands of years (many of which won't even look at the stuff and readily dismiss it). Science fiction actually becomes a possibility.

There's more than science fiction to it. The science-fiction however
is man-made. It's not an idle threat either way.


If you can't see there is something not right in the world by now- GET SOME GLASSES!
Are you suspicious about things - then go and find out!

Easy to say as well as it's unfounded to exclaim out to anyone.
Everyone is wrapped up in their own private battle inside themselves.
There is onle a few that are surfacing in this life-time.


Lets pull together as one big team and help each other figure it out. Lets be resourcefull, respectfull, helpfull and listen to each others advice about how better to deal with this. Lets NOT judge someone as wierd because they have had an experience we don't understand: ADMIT ITS EXISTENCE AND ACKNOWLEDGE IT as something we need to deal with especially if its happening on a large scale. Use our brains, our logic, research and think, question! This whole thing needs to pull as one not seperate bits to try and educate people and "allow people to think more".

What goes on with you is not happening on a large scale.
Is limited to only a few at this time in it all.

Running around knowledgeably flapping about would be fool-hardy.

There is a need for the whole of it all to get together.
Currently such endeavour does not exist.



When I first wrote this reply to this thread, it sounded to me like a better
response. Unfortunately that reply didn't make it through. This is the
second effort. Not an improvement. IMO

outfrom
08-05-2010, 05:45 PM
Firstly: This part of my book (!) was at the end until I realised not everyone is going to read to the end so I have put it first here goes:If any one else is being effected emotionally/mentally by "stuff out there in the world" (conspiracy theories, aliens,wars, etc.) and is aware of the sheer misinformatition coupled with the fact that they just think they feel and think differently to the mainstream. Can we have a chat please.

Like what I see. Will need to narrow your reaching out down.


I would really like to try and find people that think more outside the box and how they have coped with this in their lives. Knowing this information about the world around you does have a consiquence and I feel like I am living a lie not being able to answer a question about "what do you think about Obama?" or isn't this terrible and say what I think. Its like I am not a sheep but I am having to live amongst sheep.

Looks like herded around by present day life.


I just feel isolated and you can't just talk about this "stuff" anyway never mind how you create a life for yourself knowing this stuff. Where do you go to find people and friends, how you can help the situation/educate the public etc. The need to be able to express yourself with people who don't think your mental health is wonky and can try and get to know you as a complete person with valid view points and ability to see stuff others can't.

Isolated from present-day life around. No real creating a life in the midst
of for such individuals. More likely to be shunned by than able to mix with.
Seems to be fool-hardy to reach out to the masses. It's all designed to
work against by not mixing in and being isolated from. Such people as
are not unknown to the people in their vicinity. They don't let on though.


Is there not like somewhere you can volunteer and get food and board ? Is someone trying to set up a commune where people like minded can be together (like with eco-communities, spiritual communes)? Any ideas.

No.


Basically I have the freedom to go anywhere I want as long as I don't have to dip into savings too much, I want to help somehow and be around people in the know and doing something about this mess. I can no longer sit and watch and feel that I know so little about this planet and ourselves-I really need to be able to get my head more into gear and understand where we are at.

That freedom to go elsewhere may just be an illusion. Such people are
scattered about and isolated in their vicinities. Reaching out to around
you won't pan out. Is more foo-hardy than anything else. Keep your
lights on by shoring up in yourself. Your inner sense of be is your best
guide. See you in yourself, as the ups and downs go. Could get rocky.


Ok the mess we are in, the sheer mass of theories and information available, I think its about time we seriously admit to ourselves where we are really and how little we know about our planet and where we are heading. With that said, I just find it hard to believe how few people are struggling mentally and emotionally with the state the world is in, worrying about our future as a race, if we are going to screw the planet up (is it not at the point yet where everyday people are using logic and comon sense and thinking well there is a possibility we could have been infiltrated by aliens given the evidence and the mess-maybe we better even just look just incase because of the implications- if its not true, at least we have looked into it as a possibility given our limited knowledge). Unless most people don't really admit this or take it on board - I suppose this takes a lot (things people struggle with everyday seem small in comparison).

For the most part, what you are alluding to, is out of reach in right now.
It's beyond comprehendable in the now to bring it aboard. Our everyday
lives would be small in comparison but that is where we manage on from
instead of whatever you could perceive the big picture to be. Factions are
around that do gather people together for their cause. There is a leader
that gathers them together. There may not be getting together without
one that can lead them on. Not managing to lead on the followers tend
to disperse unless another rises up from in the ranks and even then
some could very well leave the whole.


Frankly it's a miracle I am coping so well as I try to be very rational and honest with the earthly situation the only comfort being the relief the possibility that "this may not be all be our mess".

One that finds itself in the general populace would not have the burden
at the own end. Seeing things in perspective in ralation to yourself
would delegate (even unknowingly), to somewhere in it all. There is
quite abit to such realizing of all around in such way. There's a fair bit of
believing but it's in yourself not to out away from you at your expense.
Briefly pointing out won't suffice as telling the whole story. Even though
it wouldn't require speaking volumes.


I don't think people realise how REAL and SERIOUS the situation is, I mean its bad enough even if you don't go beyond the media version and the environmental damage and famine etc. Are people numb and dumb? I used to think I was over sensitive, maybe I am more honest with myself (and can't pull wool over my own eyes as effectively cos something is pulling at me within) and I allow myself to be aware of more, its like I don't filter reality the same as every one else.

We are not all at the same point of be in our selves. Everyone manages
from their own point. Most don't have the big picture coming their way.
There's just a few scattered about that are affected by what all be in
themselves. It's more in your roots than becoming so by the world around
Root-wise you would have to hold together in yourself in the face of the
world around you. Locally to nationally. Whatever it amounts to in your
self.

One directly conscious in itself is not all there is to one as a whole within.
There is more but what that more is seems to be controlled over by
foreign concerns ruling over. Present day life is in some kind of captivity.
Nevermind our roots go to elsewhere of life as it is known on this planet.
However we don't know outright where that elsewhere is in it all.


I am really struggling with even being able to just get on in the world, to be honest I have struggled in getting on with people anyway. Yet I am even questioning this. I don't understand how a confident and outgoing personality type can end up so isolated. Having said that run of the mill "normal" things were of no interest to me. I do like to get up and dance and have a laugh but feel like I am using people as that is all I get out of the situation, they aren't really friends. Don't get me wrong I would have loved to have made friends and done fun stuff aswell but alcohol didn't interest me (which immediately makes you odd and in N England its blinkered era going back to my youth when you were lucky to see a black person and you were a freak if you did yoga) and the whole thing of getting to know people is long and complex-going through the normal processes in western society and what you talk about.

The sway of the world is contrairy to developing from within. Developing
about from within isn't even really there to do so. Foreign control rules
over from without by the world around that it hides behind.
Your isolation is by design by the powers that be.
Your isolation from the world around that you have little interest in
partaking with is attributable to foreign interests behind it. You are not
wanted to mix with the world by other interests more so than by you.
Is slow going in the now as pressing concerns abound.


To be honest a lot of people don't really want to know themselves deeper or ask normal questions about why we are here etc. which is fine but I question why? Isn't that a basic human thing. Its like these people are just existing off surface layors as that is all they are aware of. Where is the wonder? The questioning? The what ifs? Can you just get your kicks off booze, shopping and footy and feel fully satisfied and not a hole inside? Im sorry but it aint normal for an intelligent race to be brain washed by materialism and wonder why they are so unhappy with so many problems. I even question if people are even functioning in a normal way. Hang ups they have are pathetic, egos, their own insecurities, gosh are we really that frail?

No we are not really that frail.
Life as it is is intenseively cared for to raise people up in tenderling ways.
Which reduces resistance to powers about in the outside world.
The quality of life around is there to keep the masses quiet so they don't
get riled to action and wrest themselves away from the foreign captors.
The powers that be are way ahead of the people in the street.
The established world about does it for so we don't do it ourselves.
They want to keep us quiet to the point of no return.
Which would make it too late for our gallant efforting hearts.
All for naught thing about it.


We are just creating a non-sense world. Just say it like it is, say what you mean. I just want to blurt out what Im about, my experiences what I think and does anybody even feel remotely the same cos its bloody lonely.

What becomes of the world around is not of our own creating. It is being
created through us by the powers that be. For them not ourselves.
There are just a few around in such way as yourself and they are
scattered about not groupable together by present life means.


They have emotional hang-ups their own baggage which a lot of people don't even know they have got, let alone analyse to the extent I do. I say superficial as I wanted to develop spiritually, (when I say this I mean to encompas whatever it means to develop more as an intellegient being) I wanted to genuinely grow as a whole being. I even question my emotions, really delve and find out more about myself. Why I feel different/seem to be experiencing the world from perspectives that aren't "normal" etc. I was always a deep thinker and was emotionally very mature and aware of stuff from a young age. I knew all the stuff psychotherapists were saying to me - I know that but how do I get on with people when I want to feel and exist beyond their level? I can't just be happy on fobbing myself off with job, mortgage, girly nights out, going through "normal channells" of getting to know a person etc, the restricted conversation and normal ways of thinking and being.

For the most part our states inside of ourselves are not all the same.
There's just the odd ones around that don't go with the flow of the
established world around as things are. Mostley we are driven to be so
by other interests outside of ourselves. One hand giving while the other
wants to take it all away. The reason for that is to get us out in the open
and then to have a field day gutting us to nowhere.

There are also many around in the like-sakes of ourselves.
You know -- many in the name of, saying...


Even new age stuff people get sucked into, it just ISN'T rational on a global scale. New agers really do "believe", I know there are many chanellings and some are genuine information of some use from somewhere. But you just have to look to see what a big mess it all is. There is some truth in many things, but to believe blindly instead of thinking logically, ok so why aren't we REALLY receiving USEFULL INFORMATION and why aren't they telling us about all this other stuff. If there is all this higher intelligence why the big disagreement and mess? Even the new age has much disinformation and control, although some principles have some elements of truth. Obviously people are receiving stuff from somewhere as some are coming out with information beyond their knowledge (or that they couldn't just reel off) and some of it they obviously couldn't have made up and is consistent. We just aren't as safe - it isnt all loving and fluffy and how come they never admit to all this negative alien abduction stuff (conveniently).

There are all kinds of factions around. They all build themselves up from
the numbers of people about. One being is basicly the same for one and
all. That's what they are coniving against to manipulatingly alter about.
Instead of ourselves developing about in more naturalizing ways.

There's a little truth seemingly in all the ways of knowing to others.
At the early end of our existence we are apparently hookable by truths.
They speak a little truth so they can reel us in and fill our heads with
things that will take us for a ride, away from ourselves.
Once they get set up in us we are locked in for "a" duration.

In a way, all is well, no matter how you go on to be, until things go awry.

Historically it looks like whatever ships set sail eventually sink.

The struggle to sail on continues. Supposedly one day it will.


I would love to be able to find like-minded people who are also struggling with mental/physchological things and how this fits into conspiracy theories. People who aren't going to laugh or think oh we've got a nutcase here. To be honest I think I have quite a good mind in that I look at evidence, try to take a step back and see the whole picture and lately have been trying to think things through. This involves trying to keep an open mind not getting sucked in to things and remaining vigilant. Are most people doing this as they research? Are they aware of hang on I'm getting hooked and even obsessed with only looking at UFO stuff rather than really educating themselves by looking at stuff that hasn't got the "wow" factor and is mundane but actually is essential and relevant to the situation?

Most people don't take it to the extent that you do.


World history, human pyschology, the media, the way government system has been created, looking at how all the pieces fit together.

The pieces all fit together somehow no doubt. Is unlikely that it can be
worked out on "paper".


What are emotions but things WE have very little control over and yet there are umpteen ways of being able to have be better control over them. Why is it so simple yet difficult to control them? Where do they come from? Why are there so many emotional-disorders? Are these even normal and natural as they occur or are aliens constantly tellepathically influencing them as they project into the mass sub-consciouss? Or have we been genetically implanted. Lets face it, its a possibility.

The powers that be are above and beyond life as it now is. They have us
all rigged up to go "however(?)" all together now. Mostly it's in a
hands off way. They come up lacking in the face of direct contact with us.
They are above and beyond us. We are suckable up into....and away we
go.


Why is humanity so destructive with its use of negative thoughts and emotions to the point of it not being logical or serving a purpose? They are like stuck records that play the same stuff.

Mostly we are had up in some kind of machine like existence. Is above
and beyond us. You could say we are over-ridden by such idiocy
from being there-in of, prgrammed to be and go so.


A lot of people aren't even aware they do this. For example being critical of people and constantly making judgements, the need to talk behind peoples backs. It has become obsessive. Our addicition to soaps and negative emotions. Well I hate them, give me some good feel stuff please not doom and gloom!

Is mainly a way that we are able to be oppressive to one another in our
every day lives. It's by design from without more-so than by ourselves.
Life has its' ups and downs. Not all one way.


The media and the main channells are mannipulating us psychologically in a big way and the fact that all this crap appeals to a lot of people is frightening.
Another way in which humanity is not living its natural potential (not that it is ever encouraged or shown how to do this).

Finally I do not mean to affend anyone by saying most people are superficial (most of us have to exist like this in an everyday world which is to a degree normal, however how many people even want to go beyond or have time?), its nobodies fault that they need or don't need more from life than their lives give them, you can only be what you can think and feel and what your desires are. What even influences this?

Its like as we are becoming "more intelligent" and more people are wanting answers to philosophical etc questions, the more society is less geared to us finding out the answers and is pumping more materialism and distractions into our world. Does anyone feel that they cannot cope and feel the need to try and understand more about the world around them and all the conspiricies? Is any one else reacting in a "normal" confused and what the hell do we do now kind of way? Its like a mass anasthaetic!

Come on, its all very well discussing the physical stuff, but what about how people are FEELING about it? Even I, having recently come off medication (for depression) completely for the first time in 10 years, have some how not had a negative reaction to exposing myself to David Ickes stuff and god knows what else. Partly this in itself is making me question stuff, its like my mind is more balanced. I am a different person and see things differently to what I used to. Its like I can think, more fully and balanced. I just can't explain it. Its a miracle having found all kinds of horrible stuff that is going on that it hasn't made me really down. Unless, deep down I owe it to society NOT to let it get to me and NOT being beaten by this, that I am not achieving anything or helping by being like that. Its like a motivation to DO SOMETHING.

I do have very active mind and get lots of thoughts which is a pity I can't focus this, think I need to sort some stuff out! I needed to get stuff off my chest. 6 months or so I "got into conspiracy theories" which involved much research including days of watching stuff my friend had researched. Basically I am open minded and have allowed myself to question things on the planet and accept various things no matter how "off the wall" as they do have supportive evidence and when you put pieces of a jigsaw together and just say, ok lets just see..

David Icke, Montauk series books, the illuminati etc. They aren't out of the question. To be honest the mind control thing or whatever would seem possible, suppression of rational thinking call it what you like. I am just finding myself even more isolated as I just cannot believe an average thinker (I have no degrees!) can't even think rationally for themselves as the state of the world is diabolical.

Do people really think that out there is humanity at its pinnacle of intelligence? The fact that people DO NOT come to that question and that it is obvious our full important knowledge of scientific information is NOT readily available. The fact that many people do not even admit paranormal stuff/aliens as reality purely by the sheer quantity of eye witnesses. People by their very nature cannot grasp and even begin to understand the world in which we live as most of it "doesnt exist" or is made up of things which are labelled as physically impossible (a basic understanding of quantum physics makes us realise actually this reality DOESN'T act strictly how we thought and that the observer actually changes the physical reality purely by observation).


When I started looking into not readily available scientific info that makes other dimensions and stuff probable etc I wondered why there are so many people instantly dismissing the possibility of aliens having run us for thousands of years (many of which won't even look at the stuff and readily dismiss it). Science fiction actually becomes a possibility.



If you can't see there is something not right in the world by now- GET SOME GLASSES!
Are you suspicious about things - then go and find out!

Not readily there en masse.



Lets pull together as one big team and help each other figure it out. Lets be resourcefull, respectfull, helpfull and listen to each others advice about how better to deal with this. Lets NOT judge someone as wierd because they have had an experience we don't understand: ADMIT ITS EXISTENCE AND ACKNOWLEDGE IT as something we need to deal with especially if its happening on a large scale. Use our brains, our logic, research and think, question! This whole thing needs to pull as one not seperate bits to try and educate people and "allow people to think more".

What is going on with you is not happening on a large scale.
There is only odd ones like your self that it's to the attention of.
Is slow-going in the now.


***This is a remake of this post with my remarks.***

outfrom
08-05-2010, 05:49 PM
Have sent the OP of this thread a private message in an effort to bring
these postings of mine to the attention of.

Maybe we'll hear from who-ever it is.

outfrom
08-06-2010, 04:12 PM
You know, YOU may be miserable and want to blame it on a conspiracy. But there are plenty of happy people in the world and they just see you as mentally ill. The vast majority of people do not feel like you do. They are, and always will be, unconvinced by your unfounded belief in an evil secret government. YOU know that, that's why you came here to post, where you presumed you'd find people who DO believe. Because you know full well that the world will never share your view.

You KNOW that.

You know, YOU must not have read the post you are replying to.

outfrom
08-06-2010, 04:30 PM
my friend i feel your pain, this is majorly affecting my life, all my friends are still inside the matrix so its hard to really connect with anybody, i did try to inform people but they didnt like it, i hate to say it but they're still programmed,you can see parts of there soul shining through but its mostly smothered by the disease of the mainstream, dont give in man one day our time will come, it may be a lonely place to be now but if we can pull through this fucked up time im sure there is something better on the other side,something more suited to the true nature of our existence, remember dont give in to the negative feelings people tend you place on you,dont feel out of place they just havent caught up with the truth yet,the time is coming, the peaceful way is global non compliance, but people wont understand what they are not complying to, i still beleive the best way is the internet systematical distribtuion of information all over the fucking world!! if we all get our minds together we could do this, put the information in the places where the blind are bound to look, i know this is already being done but we need to get the facts as they stand together, in an easy to absorb way,the average man isnt going to sit around long enough to take the hole thing in, it needs to be codl hard facts, quotes from the illuminists, documented legislation, something they could read and its right there in there faces, lets get together and get this on the go, peace to all

Would seem unlikely that the populace in general (together now) could lead
the way and manage out into the world around to achieve some state of
"that's it".

Only a leader with great vision in a all-around way could accomplish such task
and it could take eons or longer. So far it's been time imemmorial and who
can see where we are so far?.

li'lears
08-08-2010, 10:13 AM
More to do with going on than anyone really knows.
It's all in you. Not outside of you.

reachless
08-14-2010, 11:02 AM
For a note-able figure regarding matters pertaining to what the poster
someone
speaks of, you can check out the essays of Ralph Waldo Emerson.
His speeches are laced with references to a contact from within his self.

jingjing
08-26-2010, 01:16 AM
You know, YOU may be miserable and want to blame it on a conspiracy. But there are plenty of happy people in the world and they just see you as mentally ill. The vast majority of people do not feel like you do. They are, and always will be, unconvinced by your unfounded belief in an evil secret government. YOU know that, that's why you came here to post, where you presumed you'd find people who DO believe. Because you know full well that the world will never share your view.

You KNOW that.

Truthbetold
08-26-2010, 03:21 AM
can't make up your own posts?!

jingjing
08-26-2010, 03:28 AM
Originally Posted by albie http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/images/clubconspiracy/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/f23/i-have-suffered-depression-need-talk-10661-post63317.html#post63317)
You know, YOU may be miserable and want to blame it on a conspiracy. But there are plenty of happy people in the world and they just see you as mentally ill. The vast majority of people do not feel like you do. They are, and always will be, unconvinced by your unfounded belief in an evil secret government. YOU know that, that's why you came here to post, where you presumed you'd find people who DO believe. Because you know full well that the world will never share your view.

You KNOW that.

BlueAngel
08-27-2010, 02:32 AM
Originally Posted by albie http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/images/clubconspiracy/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/f23/i-have-suffered-depression-need-talk-10661-post63317.html#post63317)
You know, YOU may be miserable and want to blame it on a conspiracy. But there are plenty of happy people in the world and they just see you as mentally ill. The vast majority of people do not feel like you do. They are, and always will be, unconvinced by your unfounded belief in an evil secret government. YOU know that, that's why you came here to post, where you presumed you'd find people who DO believe. Because you know full well that the world will never share your view.

You KNOW that.

Dear Albie:

People who believe in a secret, evil government come here not because they presumed they would find people who also believe in a secret, evil government, but, because they KNOW they will find people who believe in a secret, evil government.