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Shannow
08-30-2005, 03:11 AM
that a hurricane threatens US refining capacity (potentially limiting the ability to ACCEPT crude), and crude prices )including for the rest of the world) RISE ?

Market forces my arse.

Wells producing, a potential reduction in the ability to absorb those tankers en route, and the prices still go up.

And prices in Oz are predicted to suffer a 5c/l (4%) temporary price rise.

Sometime I believe that "the colonies" are being used to prevent/absorb price rises in the U.S., while still maintaining profitability.

Case In Point.
a few years ago, Oz dollar was 45c US. Oil was $37 US/bbl.

Peter Costello was on National T.V. pointing out that either $1 per bbl, or 1c/US dollar drop in outr currency was 1c/l at the bowser.

$1.00(Oz)+$0.33($/bbl)-$0.22(exchange rate) = $1.25(Oz). 12.5% goes back to Exxon Mobil, Texaco, BP and Shell.

Problem was that when it was $55US per Barrel, we were still paying $1.10(Oz)/l

freeman
08-30-2005, 08:41 AM
It's an absolute contrived scam and everyone knows it. Even the financial "experts", when pinned down and diverted from their standard media sound bytes, will admit that the current runup in oil prices is due to "fear and speculation".
A crisis is being manufactured in order to get the people rife for revolt, especially in the U. S.
That ol' debil Hegelian dialectic again. The conflicts are being manufactured in order to control the outcome.

truebeliever
08-30-2005, 08:48 AM
It's an absolute contrived scam and everyone knows it. Even the financial "experts", when pinned down and diverted from their standard media sound bytes, will admit that the current runup in oil prices is due to "fear and speculation".
A crisis is being manufactured in order to get the people rife for revolt, especially in the U. S.
That ol' debil Hegelian dialectic again. The conflicts are being manufactured in order to control the outcome.

I agree.

It's an absolute contrived scam and everyone knows it. Even the financial "experts", when pinned down and diverted from their standard media sound bytes, will admit that the current runup in oil prices is due to "fear and speculation".
A crisis is being manufactured in order to get the people rife for revolt, especially in the U. S.
That ol' debil Hegelian dialectic again. The conflicts are being manufactured in order to control the outcome.

I 2nd the motion.

It's an absolute contrived scam and everyone knows it. Even the financial "experts", when pinned down and diverted from their standard media sound bytes, will admit that the current runup in oil prices is due to "fear and speculation".
A crisis is being manufactured in order to get the people rife for revolt, especially in the U. S.
That ol' debil Hegelian dialectic again. The conflicts are being manufactured in order to control the outcome.

I 3rd the motion.

It's an absolute contrived scam and everyone knows it. Even the financial "experts", when pinned down and diverted from their standard media sound bytes, will admit that the current runup in oil prices is due to "fear and speculation".
A crisis is being manufactured in order to get the people rife for revolt, especially in the U. S.
That ol' debil Hegelian dialectic again. The conflicts are being manufactured in order to control the outcome.

Into infinity.

It's more even then a scam...it's an ongoing joke on the human race.

Saturnino
08-31-2005, 06:15 AM
Was Katrina a weather control experiment ? The Mississipi delta is the artery of exportation for most agricultural goods. If the river is blocked somehow, the whole harvest will be in danger.
Watch the looting in New orleans and the calls for Martial law...is this an experiment ? Where will they put the 1 million homeless people ? In internment camps ?
Hmmmmm...

truebeliever
08-31-2005, 07:53 AM
Yes...Hmmmmm...and Hmmmmmm and Hmmmmmm.

To convienent.

A good run up to the economic collapse.

freeman
08-31-2005, 08:32 AM
A good run up to the economic collapse.

And let's not ignore more amazing coincidences...like this runup in oil prices occurring just after Congress passes a "reform" bill to eliminate bankruptcy protection for the overextended sheeple...all the possible avenues of escape must be cut off to get the masses to choose revolt as the only desperate option.

truebeliever
08-31-2005, 08:42 AM
Yes!!!! That bankruptsy law! That is a tipping point. You will have to work off your debt in work details. There will be NO escape!

Ooooo...it's closer than we think.

They have talked about the same thing here in Oz but have not moved on it yet.

Something has to give before the end of the year.

08-31-2005, 08:45 AM
Saturnino wrote:
Was Katrina a weather control experiment ? The Mississipi delta is the artery of exportation for most agricultural goods. If the river is blocked somehow, the whole harvest will be in danger.
Watch the looting in New orleans and the calls for Martial law...is this an experiment ? Where will they put the 1 million homeless people ? In internment camps ?
Hmmmmm...


Hmmmmmm!!!!

Brain food!!!

Refugee camps is how they described it last night on the news.

Too little, too late!

Experiment, you say. When the nation is watching, the world is watching a city drown and our President is leisurely vacationing and digging up worms at his Texas Ranch, it does make one wonder!!

They better never resort to Martial Law!!

freeman
08-31-2005, 08:46 AM
I have just received word from my brother that gasoline prices are going to $3.50 per gallon by the end of the day...that triples energy prices from a year or two ago. Of course, the hurricane is blamed.
The end is very near for we Yanks...good luck to the rest of the world.

truebeliever
08-31-2005, 08:49 AM
They better never resort to Martial Law!!

To late! Just said on the news. Local martial Law.

FREEMAN...have a guess what we Australians pay per liter...gallon?

Remember...we are a massive continent of 20 million people and a car is a nescessity...

$1.33 Liter

$5.30 gallon

08-31-2005, 08:55 AM
My son informed me the other night that gasoline prices were going up to $3.50 the next day.

08-31-2005, 09:00 AM
Work detail, or slaves???

So, if you can't file bankruptcy; you owe the bastards thousands; your city is in ruins; no employment; no house, you'll have to use insurance money to repay them.

and

they can then begin seizing property and personal possessions, garnishing wages, etc., from the rest of the population.

freeman
08-31-2005, 10:35 AM
Work detail, or slaves???

Could well be the angle they intend to use...tell everyone the camps are like the old WPA work camps of the Great Depression. Only too late people will relaize they are imprisoned for generations.

As I write this, Bush has now opened the strategic oil resserves..too late to do any real good.
Crude oil prices inched down imperceptibly, but since the current crisis is exacerbated by refinery shortages, opening reserves of crude has no effect on the end consumer of gasoline and home heating oil.
My best advice: GET OUT OF DEBT NOW. For many this is an impossibliity. Beyond that, I have no idea, other than faith and prayer.

Saturnino
08-31-2005, 10:46 AM
In Brazil we pay US$ 3 a gallon. And we are self sufficient in oil.
As I told before, the only reason that we didn`t have a revolution here is that food is cheap.
One dollar a kilo (2,2 pounds ) of anything vegetable and two dollars good beef. Poultry is US$ 1 a kilo.
That`s the main problem in the US: not oil, but food, which is totally dominated by half a dozen companies.
My wife just came back from the US: 3 days there and her face was full of pimples and she was sick. That`s because of the awful hormones they put in the meat and the milk.

08-31-2005, 11:33 AM
Yes, he opened the reserves too late. Gee, that's a shock!!!

nomad
08-31-2005, 11:50 AM
How true ... slavery will be the worse ever with

the impossibility of declaring bankruptcy thanks

to Bush again.

:-o

Draken
08-31-2005, 02:27 PM
Come on now, nomad, the US is the world's biggest democracy (as if that was a good thing!) - The Land of the Free - there is no slavery anymore, they've abolished that after the North won the Civil War! :-D

Shannow
08-31-2005, 03:21 PM
Found this on another board
Modern Day Nero (http://www.livejournal.com/users/bobharris_rss2/149898.html)

freeman
08-31-2005, 03:41 PM
&*!^%ing Bush! I'd like to push his grinning chimpanzee face right down into that sheet cake..
Thanks, Shannow. Nero he is, just with a guitar instead of a fiddle.
I'm going to have to share this webpage with others -- whether they like it or not. :-x

truebeliever
08-31-2005, 09:10 PM
Alex Jones did a good report on this.

They plan to issue everyone with their National I.D with smart card technology and biometrics once the economies collapsed and all the legislations in place.

It will also house your government "credits". It will be called your "Multi Pass".

Their will be 3 levels at least. If you have debt you will be a level 2 and you wont be able to fly unless you work off the debt on a "work detail".

I'll try to find it and post it.

Draken
09-01-2005, 01:42 AM
Shannow, it's never been proven Nero actually burned Rome. It was a <a href="http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/encyclopedia/g/gr/great_fire_of_rome.htm">rumour</a> that spread then and was picked up by historians as fact at the time. ;-)

truebeliever
09-01-2005, 02:50 AM
...
I will tell you something, go out on a limb...i could just about give you their exact plan down to the finest detail.

How? Inside knowledge? Grandiose bragging?

It's a little like 'wrote learning' and actually understanding the fundamentals of your subject.

I could wrote learn that 2+2=4. I could wrote learn that 12+12=24...or I could learn the fundamental principal behind mathematics.

There is a founding principal.

Combine this with a love of military matters, good general knowledge and a good understanding of the human mind and you can start to make pretty accurate predictions about what is to come.

Goerge Bush is a human being as is Lord Rothschild. They live and love and also destroy because of the vast power they weild.

Perhaps many of us would not be so different.

Once you've worked that out you can stop projecting all that is evil over them and start to understand the same motivations that have motivated the rich and powerful since day dot.

Factor in the new technologies and the day to day situation and wullah!

It also helps if you can laugh at the idiots who are actually paid to appear on the telly.

Working it out is not so hard.

For instance...the draft. Everyone is talking about the draft and how it is inevitable. Well they've been saying that for 2 years.

I have said for 2 years their will be NO draft and that the issue was simply another distraction.

How do I come to this conclusion? The polls are bullshit and over %50 of Americans know the war on terror is bogus and the Western Intelligence services were behind the attacks on the 11th of September.

The American public remember Vietnam and know the U.S cannot win. Over %50 of Americans did not vote for Bush. Therefore...ergo sum...the American people will NOT support a draft. A vast majority of the American people want their 19 year old sons and daughters home...NOW.

But what of a catalysing HUGE terrorist attack you say on American soil?

I asure you everyone in the Intelligence services to one degree or another know the war on terror is a crock. Not all, but an awful lot to one degree or another.

To incinerate or kill in vast numbers, American people, on home soil, will result in a coup of some description.

There will be a revolt amongst the armed forces and the American people who just happen to be armed to the teeth.

Like rats in a cage they whack us over the head with a stick whenever one of us starts discussing with another rat that the end of the cage is actually open...WHACK! War, war war...blah blah balh...the same old game centralising power and keeping the peasants energy where they want it...going round and round in circles...

The NWO is backed into a corner. They know that if they proceed with a 'catalysing event' bigger and better than 9-11, they will force people who would otherwise do nothing into direct action against them.

If I believed for one minute that my government was behind the deaths of huge numbers of Australians I would be forced to act. I could no longer sit and talk about the issues, my own survival instinct and sense of rage would kick in.

There are an awful lot of buried SKK and SKS assault rifles buried in this country. Howard would'nt dare. Not that I believe he would. I dont think he's in on the main game. Regardless, he'd need more than his piddly carbon fibre vest. **Dear ASIO/F.P...that is not a veiled threat, just stating what you yourself know. I will never condone violence except in the most extreme event**.

As for Bush and Co...the American people will string the lot of them up. They cannot pull off a 'catalysing event'. They tried once and were thwarted by the net and alot of clued up ordinary people.

They will have to keep the people distracted by offshore wars and the usual endless talk of an Al Quida attack which will never appear.

Remember, any predictions that gain credence on the net will force the NWO engineer's to alter course. They are VERY afraid of the net. In fact they're shitting themselves as we speak.

I predict war in the M.E in many forms. Firstly endless talk of it. Then an aerial bombardment of Iran. This may culminate in the use of tactical nukes by the U.S if Iran can be framed for the use of WMD's.

There will be NO ground invasion of any kind. I dont even belive there are U.S Special Forces on the ground in Iran. The Iranian Elite Gaurd will make mince meat of them if U.S special forces (oz and brits too) are located and cannot call in air strikes to protect themselves.

As for certain agent provocetures like Rivero and Co who push that it will result in nooklear war with Russia...take your pills Rivero, you're an idiot and friend of Soros and Co. Actually, you're just a useful idiot with a reasonably useful web site...still waiting for the Microsoft goon squad Rivero! When are they due?

Speaking of Soros...he's in the States as we speak...PROMOTING DEMOCRACY! I mean, what more do you need that Bush is simply an energiser of the left? In come the European, billionaire Limo riding Lefty/Socialist's sell you the soloution...One World Socialist Government...run by a Ruling Elite of Intellectuals/Businessmen and Polititions. COME IN SUCKER.

Endless talk of war with China, North Korea...and thats the level at which it will stay. TALK.

Release of biological weapons onto the Asian mainland has probably already started. Most likely with the full co-operation of the Chinese Elites who have a huge restless population to quell.

Nuclear weapons have ended the usual methods.

The NWO program, currently headed by the East Coast Blue Bloods flows like this.

Bush and Co are to trash religion and whatever reputation the United States had left in the world with their utterly reckless and fundamentalist/unilateral actions.

Wars for oil will do as an excuse...as long as there's chaos...the only vital requirement.

Read Dave Macgowans excellent analysis at http://davesweb.cnchost.com/

Europe will sit like a big fat spider off on the edges of the web tut, tutting the reckless, individualistic Americans..."if only they would co-operate for the common good".

While everyones looking off to the M.E awaiting armageddon, busy little NWO bee's will begin to foment the break up of the United States of America into as many peices as possible. A process begun long ago by the British and reaching it's climax today.

Floods of immigrants, provoking race hate, successionist movements (Rivero I see exactly where you're headed and it may be your head that gets it buddy), hatred of the Federal Government, destruction of the U.S economy and just generally chaos will suffice to divide and conquor.

Thank you Thomas Chittum for the insights.

No 'catalysing event' will be needed. The scared middle class will be begging for a Police State on steroids to restore order. The trap has been set and is about to be sprung...only a year or so away.

Bush will finish his 2 terms and after serving his perpose will retire to the Swiss Alps or wherever he chooses...wherever the Coke is cheapest perhaps?

In will come the NWO saviour...Arnie has been groomed along time...but it will remain to be seen after the work of Alex Jones and others.

Who ever it is they will extoll these virtues...

Multi-laterlism over Uni-lateralism.

U.N over the U.S as world power.

SECULAR...i repeat...S-E-C-U-L-A-R government...in fact they just want to get rid of religion full stop...no doubt, like Hitler, they will leave it too 'wither on the vine'.

LIBERAL...oh yes, free love baby. Yeh, lets stand for nothing and fall for everything..."hey you want to dance naked in the streets and wipe your arse with the flag and constitution"?..."well thats your right buddy! No fascists here! Just lovely liberal/socialists".

The public, suitably sauted in the juices of armageddon and certain world war will be begging...screaming...pleading for deliverence from the madness with the installment of a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT ORDER based in Europe.

The whole thing is a CON. Wars for oil, wars for this and wars for that...all utter bullshit as the public is lead by the nose straight into the arms of the NWO/Illuminist death bed.

In the end, after 20-30 years of benevolent fascism/socialism...or whatever you want to call it..FUEDALISM...the masters will say..."hey, you know, we really need to reduce the population to ensure the survival of the greater good. And hey! You dont look that useful...and hey! you're a little bit uppity and asking to many questions...and hey! you're one of those religious whacko's who belive in marriage and family and all sorts of cultish stuff...perhaps you should go first?...dont worry, it'll be painless...we're not barbarians...we're rational, thinking people after all".

And should you wish to run...to fight...to hide? Well too bad...the RFID chip/security camera/subcutaneous microchip/satellite tracked/retinal-thumb scanned world we live in will make things hard if not impossible.

WELCOME! To our Brave New World and all we had to do was be scared into submission.

Let them know you're not scared. That you will fight for the principal of individual God given rights over the so called 'common good'.

Let them know you wish to settle this peacefully at all costs. Let them also know that should they overstep the mark you will "meet them in the stair wells and entrances with picks and knives" as Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn wished he'd done before they were transported to the gulags.

Dont worry, as they up the anti, they seal there own fate. Once people realise they have nothing to lose....'they' lose.

Whatever happens they'll have to back down.


How many will die is the question.

Hopefully not to many more.

Best. Brendon

P.S...cant believe I forgot about their TRUMP CARD!

Natural disasters! Asteroid collisions and MAYBE...a Hollywood production of Close Encounters.

Oh that HAARP just keeps on singing!

Posted 24/2/2005

http://www.clubconspiracy.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=797&viewmode=flat&order=ASC&start=20

Shannow
09-01-2005, 03:50 AM
Draken wrote:
Shannow, it's never been proven Nero actually burned Rome. It was a <a href="http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/encyclopedia/g/gr/great_fire_of_rome.htm">rumour</a> that spread then and was picked up by historians as fact at the time. ;-)

now you are going to tell me that he never had a lyre :-D

Draken
09-01-2005, 05:16 AM
He didn't. It was pan pipe. :lol:

nohope187
09-01-2005, 08:57 PM
truebeliever wrote:
There are an awful lot of buried SKK and SKS assault rifles buried in this country. Howard would'nt dare. Not that I believe he would. I dont think he's in on the main game. Regardless, he'd need more than his piddly carbon fibre vest. **Dear ASIO/F.P...that is not a veiled threat, just stating what you yourself know. I will never condone violence except in the most extreme event**.


Nice cover, I guess you have your own version of homeland security watching in oz too? Fuckin' suck's don't it? :-P

cuda
10-15-2006, 09:34 PM
gas prices fell becouse they cant store anymore so they have to get rid of some to make space.United stated has a record amount of crude reserves at this time.saudies say the price per barrel will soon drop to 50 dollars a barrel .They also have stockpiles of crude and need to make room.India just built the worlds biggest refinery.The suckers that dont sell now will lose all they gained and the suckers who buy now will lose all they got. This is what i gather from what i read and what some of the people in the stock buisness have writin in articles i have read.The oil prices were faked before the saudies raised the price per barrel they just wanted a piece of the action.