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freeman
09-03-2005, 10:13 PM
We have discussed the new concentration camps that are being secretly built all around the U. S. in other threads on this forum:

Concentration camps (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?viewmode=flat&topic_id=922&forum=25)

My question is: Why weren't these camps used to house the victims of the New Orleans Holocaust? If the supposition is correct that they are intended to be used as slave labor facilities for the underclasses, then wouldn't this be the ideal opportunity to kick off the program? Yet so far the refugees are being distributed around the surrounding area in piecemeal fashion, mostly with the implicit hope that they will somehow be absorbed back into society on their own.
Any ideas? :-?

nohope187
09-03-2005, 10:17 PM
Maybe the illusion of freedom is supposed to stay up a little while longer. :roll:

09-03-2005, 10:18 PM
Give them time!

Don't think they can make this move initially!

These people are being scattered about either left to their own devices or the government has something more in store for them!

Their lives are now below the poverty and suppression they were experiencing.

What will the government offer them?

Slave labor camps???

freeman
09-03-2005, 10:34 PM
Their lives are now below the poverty and suppression they were experiencing.

What will the government offer them?

Slave labor camps???

Exactly. These were the perfect "customers" to initiate the project. Many of them were desperate enough to consider the camps an preferable alternative to anything else available to them. With just a little euphemistic embellishment, they could have been persuaded to give it a try, i. e., m ake it sound like the old WPA camps of the Roosevelt administration.
So why didn't it happen?

truebeliever
09-03-2005, 10:38 PM
On that note...

With just a little euphemistic embellishment, they could have been persuaded to give it a try, i. e., m ake it sound like the old WPA camps of the Roosevelt administration.

That right wing hustler on NPR mentioned that this event would usher in the "good old days" of the New Deal of Rooseveldt. I kid you not.

09-03-2005, 10:50 PM
freeman wrote:

Their lives are now below the poverty and suppression they were experiencing.

What will the government offer them?

Slave labor camps???

Exactly. These were the perfect "customers" to initiate the project. Many of them were desperate enough to consider the camps an preferable alternative to anything else available to them. With just a little euphemistic embellishment, they could have been persuaded to give it a try, i. e., m ake it sound like the old WPA camps of the Roosevelt administration.
So why didn't it happen?

Outrage!! by the people at their disregard for human life as clearly exhibited by their inability to act in a proper and timely manner before and after the hurricane.

Don't think so!! CAMPS!! Ain't happening!!

freeman
09-03-2005, 10:59 PM
Yet it still remains that no one has yet to be interred in these camps...and there is no definitive answer as to when they will be used.
Even Frtiz Springmeier was incarcerated within the existing federal prison system. One would think that he might constitute the highest security risk as a dangerous dissident who would need to be held incommunicado in one of these camps, just based on what he knows and can tell.
No illegal aliens in the camps, no political prisoners. For Christ's sake the damned Arab terrorist prisoners were airlifted all the way to Cuba when we had brand new prison facilities waiting for them right here in the Heartland...only one answer in my mind:
These camps are reserved for a very special group of prisoners. They will not be opened until some point in the near future when the move is made to round up all of these individuals.

09-03-2005, 10:59 PM
The stories of the people in the Superdome and Convention Center must be told first and foremost.

Reporters should be on the ground at the Astrodome and, in particular, those who were sent to the Convention Center.

We need to know where they have been re-located.

The PEOPLE need to tell this story!!!

I'm particularly interested and concerned as to how many hospitals were kept open.

Why the patients weren't transported or moved. We're talking about newborns as well.

Unbelievable.

This was a Category 5. You don't stay in it's path.

You pay taxes to the government for government servies.

Am I wrong, here?

Anyway, my son is sure he's found a way not to pay taxes and that all government agencies are illegal.

09-03-2005, 11:01 PM
freeman wrote:
Yet it still remains that no one has yet to be interred in these camps...and there is no definitive answer as to when they will be used.
Even Frtiz Springmeier was incarcerated within the existing federal prison system. One would think that he might constitute the highest security risk as a dangerous dissident who would need to be held incommunicado in one of these camps, just based on what he knows and can tell.
No illegal aliens in the camps, no political prisoners. For Christ's sake the damned Arab terrorist prisoners were airlifted all the way to Cuba when we had brand new prison facilities waiting for them right here in the Heartland...only one answer in my mind:
These camps are reserved for a very special group of prisoners. They will not be opened until some point in the near future when the move is made to round up all of these individuals.

Don't keep me hanging on!! What special group of individuals?

Those with information about THEM???

freeman
09-03-2005, 11:01 PM
Anyway, my son is sure he's found a way not to pay taxes and that all government agencies are illegal.

Okay, maybe he can try out the new prison camps for us...
8-)

09-03-2005, 11:04 PM
freeman wrote:
Yet it still remains that no one has yet to be interred in these camps...and there is no definitive answer as to when they will be used.
Even Frtiz Springmeier was incarcerated within the existing federal prison system. One would think that he might constitute the highest security risk as a dangerous dissident who would need to be held incommunicado in one of these camps, just based on what he knows and can tell.
No illegal aliens in the camps, no political prisoners. For Christ's sake the damned Arab terrorist prisoners were airlifted all the way to Cuba when we had brand new prison facilities waiting for them right here in the Heartland...only one answer in my mind:
These camps are reserved for a very special group of prisoners. They will not be opened until some point in the near future when the move is made to round up all of these individuals.


Apparently, they are reserved for future date and they don't want to reveal them to the public until such time.

Would have to be under Martial Law, I would assume!!

Held "incommunicado" and "dissidents."

That says it all!!

Intellectuals!!

Anyone with knowledge about them.

Geez, those two words. They mean something more.

Maybe later!!

freeman
09-03-2005, 11:06 PM
Anyone with knowledge about them.

So all of the Alex Jones listeners are going into the camps? There better be a helluva lot of them in that case...

09-03-2005, 11:06 PM
freeman wrote:
Anyway, my son is sure he's found a way not to pay taxes and that all government agencies are illegal.

Okay, maybe he can try out the new prison camps for us...
8-)


Oh, no!! I protect him like a mommy bird cares for her babies!!!

09-03-2005, 11:09 PM
freeman wrote:
Anyone with knowledge about them.

So all of the Alex Jones listeners are going into the camps? There better be a helluva lot of them in that case...

Those who pose a threat to them and not their listeners.

Those with (inside) knowledge of their activities.

Intellectuals, perhaps like yourself!!!

Look, they said, if I spoke, I'd be the first to go!!

So, I'll see you there!!

freeman
09-03-2005, 11:13 PM
Look, they said, if I spoke, I'd be the first to go!!

So, I'll see you there!!

Maybe, maybe not...are we really that important to them? As long as we don't challenge them directly, they write us off as tinfoil hat nutjobs -- and the sheeple buy into it. Then again, what if they are using us to help validate what they have planned on down the road?
Think Hitler, Stalin. Whom did they incarcerate and/or execute? Hint: Not long after their party's power was consolidated.
(Yawn) Well, getting about my bedtime...we'll have to continue this later.

09-03-2005, 11:23 PM
freeman wrote:

Look, they said, if I spoke, I'd be the first to go!!

So, I'll see you there!!

Maybe, maybe not...are we really that important to them? As long as we don't challenge them directly, they write us off as tinfoil hat nutjobs -- and the sheeple buy into it. Then again, what if they are using us to help validate what they have planned on down the road?
Think Hitler, Stalin. Whom did they incarcerate and/or execute? Hint: Not long after their party's power was consolidated.
(Yawn) Well, getting about my bedtime...we'll have to continue this later.


I think it was a "scare tactic." Not that I truly believe it, but, of course, it left an imprint in the back of my mind.

Yeah, I'm just a tinfoil hat nutjob. Good for discrediting the rest of us.

How do we validate what they have planned on down the road.

I'll have to think about that and hitler, stalin tomorrow.

I just know that I slipped through the cracks for some reason and it was allowed.

Maybe not just one reason, but "there's something more in store for me" comes to mind.

Oh, that's creepy!! Memory from the past.

And, now I have to go to sleep with that one.

Shannow
09-04-2005, 04:59 AM
People will look at what's going on now, and ask why something isn't being done.

People trying to find somewhere to go are being sent back to the colloseum at gunpoint for their own good.

Next time, (maybe in a few weeks) there will be "something to be done", or "somewhere to go"

freeman
09-04-2005, 08:12 PM
Well, the time grows short. The New Orleans Holocaust proved that.
I will delay no longer in expounding my theory:
The concentration camps will not be deployed until the U. N. New World Order troops storm the country. By that time we will be defeated both financially and militarily, and the country will be engrossed in civil war.
"Order" will be restored by eliminating what remains of the existing power structure. Undesirable persons will be rounded up and incarcerated in these camps; however, these will not be the people you may think.
All of the individuals and groups who contributed to the Illuminati conspiracy and revolution will be the first interred.
Yes, that's right. We're talking the Freemasons and other secret societies, the leftwing radicals, intellectuals, special interest groups (femininists, environmentalists, etc.), drug pushers, pornographers, and other members of organized crime (Mafia). Essentially, all of the enemies of most of us on this forum board.
Sounds crazy? Remember, history tends to repeat itself -- especially when controlled repetiively by Illuminati forces. What did Hitler and Stalin do once their parties and regimes were firmly entrenched? Remember the "Night of the Long Knives? Hitler doublecrossed most of the radical fringe groups who helped him into power by ordering the SS to round them all up for imprisonment and/or execution in the middle of the night. Uncle Joe's iron fist operated in a similar fashion.
It is important to understand that once a regime is established, the covert and subversive forces necessary to topple the previous governmental structure are no longer essential and, in fact, quite dangerous to the new authority. These are the individuals who know how to conspire against government, how to wield secret and pervasive powers, how to keep things constantly stirred up. Such activities can no longer be permitted or even risked by the new regime. Further, these are also the individuals who are most costly to society, who extract the greatest material remuneration in return for their services. They have been for the most part bribed, pampered and spoiled to excess in order to procure their service and loyalty. They are the real useless eaters. The sheeple like us demand little, are already accustomed to working hard and productively, and we possess little cohesive power to represent any threat to the new ruling elites (who will be, ironically, the same as the old ruling elites, culled ever so slightly for appearance sake; they may sacrifice a few of their own for show like George W. Bush, but the Council of Thirteen shall remain intact). And when we all recive the "mark of the beast" (electronic tracking), there will be no further need for Freemasonic spies and flunkies to monitor the herd and facilitate the conspiracy.
Still haivng trouble accepting my thesis? Then I would direct you to Dr. Henry's brilliant essay:
Terminated! Freemasonry's Final Revelation. Some relevant quotes obtained from Stalin's Red Symphony interrogation of C.G.Rakovsky, a founder of the Communist International:

Freemasons "have to die at the hands of the revolution which has been brought about with their cooperation,...Masons should recall the lesson of the French Revolution. Although "they played a colossal revolutionary role; it consumed the majority of masons..." Since the revolution requires the extermination of the bourgeoisie as a class, [so all wealth will be held by the Illuminati in the guise of the State] it follows that Freemasons must be liquidated. The true meaning of Communism is Illuminati tyranny.

When this secret is revealed, Rakovsky imagines "the expression of stupidity on the face of some Freemason when he realises that he must die at the hands of the revolutionaries. How he screams and wants that one should value his services to the revolution! It is a sight at which one can die...but of laughter!" (254) "[/b]

Could it be any clearer? That is why these camps were constructed in the utmost secrecy, with black op funds and no official acknowlegement. The tiniest opportunity for any of the current entrenched aristocracy to question or investigate the underlying agenda had to be avoided. And that is why they are not being used even in a crisis like the current New Orleans Holocaust to house refugees and take heat off the Bush administration. Indeed, the Bush neocons may not have direct access to these facilities themselves. I'm guessing their have their own internationalist status like foreign embassies.
Understand, it is vital for the Illuminati Satanists to make themselves appear like the "good guys" in order for their global takeover to succeed, since they are still just an overprivileged minority attempting to subdue the entire world. There will probably be mock trials like the Nuremburg kangaroo courts, and -- just like Hitler and Stalin once again -- the sheeple will be promised that the real destructive influences in society have been weeded out and destroyed. And just to make certain that secret societies and conspiracies never thrive again, it's not too large a price to expect the population to submit to constant surveilance, don't you see? The public will swallow this shite in one big noseholding gulp, thinking they are getting "justice" and revenge against their former oppressors. Too late will they understand they have been suckered into something even worse, a global totalitarian communist hell.
So I suppose we can take solace in this much. No matter how dire the situation may become for us in the "Brave New World", we will still be faring better than our erstwhile oppressors.

nohope187
09-04-2005, 08:23 PM
for but a season. :-? :-(

09-04-2005, 08:50 PM
Obviously, the camps aren't going to be used for New Orlean's evacuees.

What, they're going to just unveil them to the public?

Oh, by the way, we have these concentration camps here. We just thought we'd build them just in case we needed them.

I don't agree completely with your thesis. It covers too many groups. This will leave them naked. They'll still need many implants.

I have to chew on it for a while.

Do you really believe intellectuals, left wing radicals, feminists, special interest groups are your enemies???

You're just one person!!!


P. S. Slave labor camps and concentration camps are not one in the same.

freeman
09-04-2005, 09:21 PM
No, I don't believe these people are my enemies personally, but they are all cogs in the NWO process, and that makes them inimical to all non-participants.
And I'm certain there may be some holes in my theory, but answer me this: Why will they need slave labor camps if they are going to institute electronic tracking and the cashless society?
We will all be enslaved without walls.
Who will still be dangerous enough to require actual physical detention? Only the groups I just named.
...And they're not worried about being naked. This is going to be a non-labor intensive regime. We will be enslaved with far less guards and spies due to high tech gadgetry.
Enough details have slipped out. We have seen the basic plan. What remains is for them to create enough turmoil to implement it without open rebellion. They need distraction.
They must portray themselves as the good guys, the saviors.

nohope187
09-04-2005, 09:25 PM
depressing and frightning all at the same time, what a fucked feeling that is. :-? :-o :-x

nohope187
09-04-2005, 09:29 PM
The worst part is seeing the people in my own community who don't and will never have a clue. :-x

Minuteman
09-04-2005, 09:33 PM
Slavery and the eight veils

by Don Harkins

Over the last several years I have evolved and discarded several theories in an attempt to explain why it is that most people cannot see truth -- even when it smacks them in the face. Those of us who can see “the conspiracy” have participated in countless conversations amongst ourselves that address the frustration of most peoples' inability to comprehend the extremely well-documented arguments which we use to describe the process of our collective enslavement and exploitation. The most common explanation to be arrived at is that most people just “don't want to see” what is really going on.

Extremely evil men and women who make up the world's power-elite have cleverly cultivated a virtual pasture so grass green that few people seldom, if ever, bother to look up from where they are grazing long enough to notice the brightly colored tags stapled to their ears.

The same people who cannot see their enslavement for the pasture grass have a tendency to view as insane “conspiracy theorists” those of us who can see the past the farm and into the parlor of his feudal lordship's castle.

Finally, I understand why.

It's not that those who don't see that their freedom is vanishing under the leadership of the power-elite “don't want to see it” -- they simply can't see what is happening to them because of the unpierced veils that block their view.

All human endeavors are a filtration process. Sports is one of the best examples. We play specific sports until we get kicked off the playground. The pro athletes we pay big bucks to watch just never got kicked off the playground. Where millions of kids play little league each spring, they are filtered out until there are about 50 guys who go to the World Series in October.

Behind the first veil: There are over six billion people on the planet. Most of them live and die without having seriously contemplated anything other than what it takes to keep their lives together. Ninety percent of all humanity will live and die without having pierced the first veil.

The first veil: Ten percent of us will pierce the first veil and find the world of politics. We will vote, be active and have an opinion. Our opinions are shaped by the physical world around us; we have a tendency to accept that government officials, network media personalities and other “experts” are voices of authority. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without having pierced the second veil.

The second veil: Ten percent of us will pierce the second veil to explore the world of history, the relationship between man and government and the meaning of self-government through constitutional and common law. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without having pierced the third veil.

The third veil: Ten percent of us will pierce the third veil to find that the resources of the world, including people, are controlled by extremely wealthy and powerful families whose incorporated old world assets have, with modern extortion strategies, become the foundation upon which the world's economy is currently indebted. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without having pierced the fourth veil.

The fourth veil: Ten percent of us will pierce the fourth veil to discover the Illuminati, Freemasonry and the other secret societies. These societies use symbols and perform ceremonies that perpetuate the generational transfers of arcane knowledge that is used to keep the ordinary people in political, economic and spiritual bondage to the oldest bloodlines on earth. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without having pierced the fifth veil.

The fifth veil: Ten percent of us will pierce the fifth veil to learn that the secret societies are so far advanced technologically that time travel and interstellar communications have no boundaries and controlling the actions of people is what their members do as offhandedly as we tell our children when they must go to bed. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without having pierced the sixth veil.

The sixth veil: Ten percent of us will pierce the sixth veil where the dragons and lizards and aliens we thought were the fictional monsters of childhood literature are real and are the controlling forces behind the secret societies. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without piercing the seventh veil.

The seventh veil: I do not know what is behind the seventh veil. I think it is where your soul is evolved to the point you can exist on earth and be the man Ghandi was, or the woman Peace Pilgrim was-people so enlightened they brighten the world around them no matter what.

The eighth veil? Piercing the eighth veil probably reveals God and the pure energy that is the life force in all living things-which are, I think, one and the same.

If my math is accurate there are only about 60,000 people on the planet who have pierced the sixth veil. The irony here is too incredible: Those who are stuck behind veils one through five have little choice but to view the people who have pierced the veils beyond them as insane. With each veil pierced, exponentially shrinking numbers of increasingly enlightened people are deemed insane by exponentially increasing masses of decreasingly enlightened people.

Adding to the irony, the harder a “sixth or better veiler” tries to explain what he is able to see to those who can't, the more insane he appears to them.

Our enemy, the state

Behind the first two veils we find the great majority of people on the planet. They are tools of the state: Second veilers are the gullible voters whose ignorance justify the actions of politicians who send first veilers off to die in foreign lands as cannon fodder -- their combined stations in life are to believe that the self-serving machinations of the power-elite are matters of national security worth dying for.

Third, fourth, fifth and sixth veilers are of increasing liability to the state because of their decreasing ability to be used as tools to consolidate power and wealth of the many into the hands of the power-elite. It is common for these people to sacrifice more of their relationships with friends and family, their professional careers and personal freedom with each veil they pierce.

Albert Jay Nock (1870-1945), author of “Our Enemy, the State” (1935), explained what happens to those who find the seventh and eighth veils: “What was the best that the state could find to do with an actual Socrates and an actual Jesus when it had them? Merely to poison one and crucify the other, for no reason but that they were too intolerably embarrassing to be allowed to live any longer.”

Conclusions

And so now we know that it's not that our countrymen are so committed to their lives that, “they don't want to see,” the mechanisms of their enslavement and exploitation. They simply “can't see” it as surely as I cannot see what's on the other side of a closed curtain.

The purpose of this essay is threefold: To help the handful of people in the latter veils to understand why the masses have little choice but to interpret their clarity as insanity; 2. To help people behind the first two veils understand that living, breathing and thinking are just the beginning and; 3. Show people that the greatest adventure of our life is behind the next veil because that is just one less veil between ourselves and God.
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Oh well, it helped me understand some things.

freeman
09-04-2005, 09:43 PM
Yes, I saw that same article in the Observer, Minuteman, and it helped me put a lot of this into perspective as well.
I consider myself somewhere around the fifth or sxith veil, but that is just an educated guess.

nohope187
09-04-2005, 09:49 PM
So they are blind... to the world OUTSIDE of themselves.

freeman
09-04-2005, 09:55 PM
So they are blind... to the world OUTSIDE of themselves.

Yes. In an emotional sense. The top level Satanists are totally confused by positive emotional responses. Of that I am certain. Also weakened I suspect.

nohope187
09-04-2005, 09:59 PM
Yeah, levels five or six sound about right. Level six sounds like David Icke shit though. But maybe it was refering to spiritual forces, I buy that then.

freeman
09-04-2005, 10:04 PM
Yeah, levels five or six sound about right. Level six sounds like David Icke shit though. But maybe it was refering to spiritual forces, I buy that then.

I have recently reevaluated some of what Icke is saying...I accept the possibility, but I'm not certain it matters where demons come from. They're still demons.

nohope187
09-04-2005, 10:09 PM
Hmmm, point taken.

09-04-2005, 10:13 PM
"The sixth veil: Ten percent of us will pierce the sixth veil where the dragons and lizards and aliens we thought were the fictional monsters of childhood literature are real and are the controlling forces behind the secret societies. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without piercing the seventh veil."

Okay, so, most people here agree that the Illuminati dominate our world.

So, then, do you believe that dragons and lizards and aliens are real and are the controlling forces behind the secret societies?

nohope187
09-04-2005, 10:19 PM
Dammit Angel, you're being dense again, read the last two posts.

freeman
09-04-2005, 10:19 PM
So, then, do you believe that dragons and lizards and aliens are real and are the controlling forces behind the secret societies?

As I said, I am beginning to accept the possibility.
No question the Illuminati and Satanists function with a more reptilian mindset, repressed emotional centers. Their bloodlust and sexual deviance are more animal than human responses.
Perhaps that is another reason why they want to reduce us to the animal level. Because that is the level they function on and understand, not just because it makes people easier to control.
I believe that this is also evidence that God has created man in His image and given us the weapon that we need to fight back against these evil bastards: our spirituality.

nohope187
09-04-2005, 10:25 PM
That makes sense, but for some reason or another, I understand it as spiritual darkness better(sociopaths aren't they all?).

09-04-2005, 10:31 PM
nohope187 wrote:
Dammit Angel, you're being dense again, read the last two posts.

JERK!!

Maybe my posts crossed in cyber-space.

Ever think of that, JERK!!

Anyway, you didn't answer.

Oh, I see, it's David Icke shit to you those Aliens and Lizards.

But, if it's spiritual forces, then you're okay with believing in that!!

So, the aliens and lizards aren't in your comprehension!!

Gotcha!!!

nohope187
09-04-2005, 10:41 PM
Yeah, that's pretty much it. Try not to feel too upset. :-P

igwt
09-04-2005, 11:36 PM
freeman wrote:
So, then, do you believe that dragons and lizards and aliens are real and are the controlling forces behind the secret societies?

As I said, I am beginning to accept the possibility.
No question the Illuminati and Satanists function with a more reptilian mindset, repressed emotional centers. Their bloodlust and sexual deviance are more animal than human responses.
Perhaps that is another reason why they want to reduce us to the animal level. Because that is the level they function on and understand, not just because it makes people easier to control.
I believe that this is also evidence that God has created man in His image and given us the weapon that we need to fight back against these evil bastards: our spirituality.


http://www.stewwebb.com/George%20HW%20Bush%20Goat.jpg


Evil Satanist George H. W. Bush a #77 Knights Templar with The Baphomet Goat Headed Demon Gold Emblem. The 100 International Banker Knights Templars worship Baphomet the Goat Headed Demon, the Devil. The Templars are #33-#99 The Black Pope was a #99 possessed by the Devil (Deceased Nov 2003). The Templars are all now waiting to be possessed by the Devil. That person will be known as the Anti-Christ. (Picture Taken 1992)

Council Of 13 (http://www.stewwebb.com/Illuminati_Council%20of%2013_New%20World%20Order.h tml)

truebeliever
09-05-2005, 01:11 AM
IGWT...as a side note. We here in West Oz have had a serial killer getting around for the last 8 years or so. He knocked off 3 women from a particular suburb - Claremont, of Perth. Right under the noses of the coppers.

I have met someone who has particular knowledge of the case. He claims it is the Knights Templar who are strong here in Oz as opposed to Masonry...is their such a difference? He also claims (and I believe) that the police are COMPLETELY under the Knights Templar's thumb. He further claims that the ritual killing of these 3 women was carried out by one Lord McAlpine...

http://www.davidicke.com/icke/articles2/pics/mcalpine.jpg

He is well known here in West Oz. This is the FIRST time i've heard about these allegations. I have just read a passage from David Ickes site.

He built this office tower some years ago. Note the pyramid at the top. I cannot believe this has been staring me in the face for years but I NEVER noticed. They say it is so as he flies in this is the first thing he sees...

http://www.ace.edu.au/High_res_photos/ACE_Perth/highres_aceperth_skyline.jpg

http://www.walkabout.com.au/graphics/images/CD210625.JPG

This guy walks the streets of Perth. He also hangs out at his resort in Broome...north west of the State.

I pray to God I bump into him. I have my phone camera and video with me at all times. I'm going to cuff him accross the face and name him as the Satanic scum he is. No mercy. I sware by almighty God.

igwt
09-05-2005, 05:50 AM
Looked this person up on Icke's Site, here is a link:

Alistair McAlpine (http://davidicke.com/icke/articles2/mcalpine.html)

igwt
09-05-2005, 02:26 PM
Article from Stew Webb Site. Also has interesting letter on same web page from Rockefeller regarding coming NWO.

BUSH SATANIC HUMAN SACRIFICE

December 22, 2001

SUMMER--WINTER SOLSTICE

KNIGHT'S TEMPLARS

BUSH'S DOING SATANIC WORSHIP

"TIFFANY LAMP MEETINGS"

KIMBALL CASTLE, SEDALIA, COLORADO

To Whom It May Concern:

June 21 and December 22 each year, Satanist, perform Human Sacrifices as part of their Satanic rituals. These are known as the "Summer and Winter Solstice".

During these rituals an Human Infant is killed and sacrificed to Satan (Baphemet-the Goat Headed Demon),

and the Satanist drink the blood of the Infant Human they sacrifice, and Baphemet appears before them and goes out to kill the enemies of those satanist who perform this Human Sacrifice.

I am a Nationally know Federal Whistleblower:

I currently have a Federal Grand Jury Demand filed in Las Vegas, Nevada US District Court Sept 2001. Case Number CV-S-01-0714-PMP-PAL soon to be appealed.

This case filing states I can prove The Bush Crime Family Stole 1 trillion Dollars from America.

Most of my exposure of corruption has centered around the BUSH CRIME FAMILY and "THE DENVER CONNECTION ". Involving Leonard Yale Millman, Phil Winn, Larry Mizel, Norman Phillip Brownstein, James M. Lyons, Neil Bush, Terry Constedine, Fredrico Pena, Wellington Webb and other Criminals involving the scandals below.

Which has included the following:

1. 1989 HUD Housing and Urban Development Scandal

2. The Savings and Loan Scandals (Silverado and Lincoln Savings)

3. The Denver International Airport Scandal and it's secret underground base.

4. The MDC Holdings-Denver 200---Keating 5 Scandal

5. Iraq Gate/BNL Bank/ Gulf War Syndrome Scandal

6. The Oklahoma Bombing (CIA Involvement)

7. Iran-Contra Drug Money Laundering Mena Ak. to Denver Colorado. (M & L Business Machines Co)

8. Whitewater Development (Involving James Lyons, Bill and Hillary Clinton)

9. Blackmail of Congressman and Senators (The Boulder Properties Scandal, Media By Pass Magazine Dec 1999 and May 2000 aka "Bush Crime Family parts 1 & 2)

(All the above "The Denver Connection" to The Bush Crime Family, Leonard Yale Millman-King-Pin).

10. The Tiffany Lamp Meetings--Human Sacrifice in Sedalia Colorado at the Kimball Castle

(Summer and Winter Solstice) June 21 and December 22, involving the following known persons:

George Herbert Walker Bush (Former CIA Director, Former President USA,

Knights Templar, The Church of Satan)

George W. Bush (President of USA, Knights Templar, The Church of Satan)

Jeb Bush (Governor Florida, Knights Templar, The Church of Satan)

Leonard Yale Millman (Bush Crime Family "The Denver Connection"--Kingpin-Money Launderer, Knights Templar Banker-The Church of Satan, member

council of 13)

George Shultz (Former Secretary of State USA, Knights Templar, The Church of Satan)

Henry Kissinger aka Hennie Kissinger (Former Secretary of State and NSA USA,

Knights Templar Banker-The Church of Satan, member council of 13)

Lawrence Rockefeller (Banker New York, Knights Templar Banker, The Church of Satan, council of 13 member)

Carl Lindar (Bush Crime Family "The Ohio Connection"--Kingpin-Money Launderer, Knights Templar Banker, The Church of Satan, council of 13 member)

David Rockefeller (Banker NY, Knights Templar Banker, The Church of Satan, council of 13 member)

And many other Knights Templars who worship Baphemet and are Part of the "Tiffany Lamp Meetings Group"

This group is known as the USA "Shadow Government with in the Government". Leaders who dictate USA World Policy, that are known Satanists.

During these meetings a Human Infant is abducted from usually a hospital in the surrounding area.

And sacrificed to Satan (Baphomet) as part of these sick psychos rituals.

A report of these events was given to the FBI-Denver Field Office on November 20th, 2001,

Stating the above and that a murder of a child (infant) would take place, and that this Satanic murder, would involve the above named persons.

YOUR USA FBI WILL DO NOTHING TO PREVENT THIS MURDER OF A CHILD BY THESE MEN.

Please take videos to this location, The Kimball Castle in Sedalia, Colorado, (Sedalia is south of Denver at the Castle rock exit and west to Wadsworth then north 1/2 mile on the east side).

Further after these Satanists do their murder, you will normally find them at the "Cherry Creek Country Club " playing Golf.

They further are known to stay at the Brown Palace Hotel Downtown Denver.

They further are known to Party at Leonard Yale Millman's home and office at 2400 Cherry Creek Dr. North # 70 Denver, Colorado.

(University and Cherry Creek Drive).

This is one of the Indictments for murders, (Human Sacrifices) I intend on bringing before a US Federal Grand Jury.

If you may have any questions, please do not hesitate in calling me.

Thank You

Stew Webb

Federal Whistleblower


Stew Webb Site (http://www.stewwebb.com/Satanism%20Rockefeller's%20NWO%20Agenda.html)

freeman
09-08-2005, 10:22 AM
Back to the original topic of this thread, it appears I may have spoken too soon:


Refugees from New Orleans behind barbed wire in Utah (http://www.unknownnews.org/0509090906CampWilliams.html)

by Don Nash, Unknown News


Update:

Interview about restrictions on
New Orleans detainees ends abruptly
Sept. 6, 2005 [Day 9]

Utah's Governor Jon Huntsman has taken in some of the New Orleans refugees, at Camp Williams. Replete with barbed wire, armed soldiers with weapons at ready, police and sheriff with weapons at ready, and hell, they must surely feel right at home. In America yet. What bullshit! I'm not done with this outrage, not by a long shot. I'm actually just getting started.

Unknown News needs to come up with some Press Credentials. I want access to Camp Williams and were I "media," they'd have to let me in and allow me to talk with the refugees? Wouldn't they?

Hell, they'd let me in, I'm certain. They might not let me back out but, they would let me in. Just a passing thought. Or then again, maybe it was passing wind. Or gas. I get that a lot. Gas, that is. I'm an old gas-bag deluxe.

Anyway, think about the press credentials thing. I am serious about that even thought I crack wise about it. I do want to get in there to talk with those poor folk.

* * *
The Hurricane Katrina insurgency from New Orleans is tucked safely away behind the 6-foot chain link fence with the accommodating barb wire atop chain links. The ONLY entry into Detention Camp Utah is through the highly secure military gates that are guarded by armed military guards twenty four seven.

The ONLY access to the New Orleans insurgency is granted to military, government officials, and MAINSTREAM media.

The armed military guards at the military gates will not take nor answer any questions regarding the New Orleans insurgency. The guards will however instruct one dissident radical pseudo-media personality to turn the car around and get gone post haste. Only officially cleared personnel can access the New Orleans insurgency.

Detention Camp Utah is located about 20 miles from downtown civilization. There is no transportation, public or otherwise, for the New Orleans insurgency. Supposedly, it has been reported by one local media concern that there will be twice-daily bus service available to "cleared" insurgents.

The armed military guards at the aforementioned closely guarded military gates would answer no questions regarding whether the New Orleans insurgency would be able to clear the gates to access the quickie mart, located down a rather steep hill about three miles from the Detention Camp Utah. Nor would the guards answer questions regarding whether they would allow the New Orleans insurgency to re-enter Detention Camp Utah if somehow they were able to gain an exit.

Detention Camp Utah is a windblown and barren military installation atop the foothills of what is known as the Oquirrh (pronounced ochre) Mountains. It is isolated and surely quiet.

What a pleasant spot for those that were relocated by the U.S. military and the New Orleans insurgency weren't even told where it was they were being shipped to. Not a one of the refugees/insurgents were told they were being sent to Utah. What a freaking shock that must have been.

That is all I was able to ascertain when I paid Detention Camp Utah a short visit on Labor Day. Due to the escalating hostility of the military guards at the armed military gates into Detention Camp Utah, I cut my visit short and also cut my questioning of the armed military guards short. The nice chap with the shiny Colt 45 and the three stripes on his sleeve was growing moderately curt and gave me one last instruction to get away while I still could.

That's the way it is, Labor Day 2005.

Some refugees unhappy with destination

by Kirsten Stewart,
Salt Lake Tribune

Sept. 5, 2005 [Day 8]

Jervis Bergeron lost his home to Hurricane Katrina. He lost his dignity looting for food and water. He lost track of his family in the chaos that ensued as rescuers evacuated New Orleans.

Now he has lost his bearings.

"I knew where Utah was, but nobody told me that's where we were going. Nothing personal. It's nice. But I don't know anybody here," said Bergeron, among the first batch of 152 evacuees to arrive at the Camp Williams Utah Army National Guard training site.

Like others who arrived in smaller military planes, Bergeron wasn't told where he was headed when he boarded the JetBlue airliner Saturday at the Louis Armstrong New Orleans International Airport. In fact, great pains were taken to keep their destination secret.

National Guard officials asked a reporter and photographer aboard two separate military planes not to identify their news organizations or tell the refugees where the planes were going. They explained some refugees on earlier flights complained or refused evacuation when told where they were going.

Federal emergency officials said pilots had their passengers' safety in mind. Few evacuees are holding a grudge.

But some argue, as a matter of respect and simple courtesy, they should have been told where they were landing.

"I asked four or five people, but they said they didn't know," said Bergeron, 54. "It wasn't until the airplane doors were shut and the engines started that they told us, Utah."

Michael Widomski, spokesman for the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), said keeping destinations a secret wasn't an official policy decision, but more likely a last-minute response to trying circumstances.

He doesn't know if the practice was unique to Utah-bound flights.

"This is not a relocation effort. It would be great to provide air service to wherever they want. But that's not logistically possible," said Widomski. He said 13 states currently are sheltering refugees. So far, Utah, Arizona and Colorado are the farthest West.

"It isn't good or bad policy," said Widomski. "The priority is getting people into a safe, clean environment as fast as we can."

Not everyone was dismayed to find themselves thousands of miles from home in foreign surroundings.

"I was just happy to get out of there," said Antoinette LaFrance. The flight was the 61-year-old's first time on a plane and first visit to Utah.

"People applauded when they heard it was Utah," said Adolph Dennis, who came on a Sunday morning flight. "We heard it was getting awful crowded in Houston. Everyone has been so hospitable here."

At least one volunteer at Camp Williams says the scattershot rescue will make reconnecting families tougher. Violating victims' civil rights also adds insult to injury and reinforces their feelings of helplessness, said Christine Hurst, a certified crisis counselor.

Hurst recounted the experience of a young evacuee who on Saturday told a family member in Texas that she was en route to Houston only to wind up in Utah.

"Now the Red Cross has to send her to Houston. That's where her family is. There's no family here. It's been quite a culture shock for her."

All Hurst can do, she says, is "validate their feelings and tell them they have the right to be angry."

The Skull Valley/Camp William camp is listed among the FEMA concentration camps in the REX84 program that Oliver North was interrogated about during the Iran/Contral hearings (and refused to testify, citing issues of "national security"):

FEMA Concentration Camps (http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2004/FEMA-Concentration-Camps3sep04.htm)

Draken
09-08-2005, 03:55 PM
Hey, true, on that guy McAlpine:

You got the info on him from David Icke?

You can't believe a guy who claims alien lizards rule our world??? :lol: :lol: :lol: 8-)

truebeliever
09-08-2005, 08:11 PM
Hey, true, on that guy McAlpine:

You got the info on him from David Icke?

You can't believe a guy who claims alien lizards rule our world???

Yeh o.k! Enough! I was waiting for that one. I still say he's a tosser.:-) Heard him interviewed by Alex Jones...VERY defensive! Not very articulate when challenged. NOT impressed with him.

As for concentration camps...we've had them in Oz for a few years. In the middle of nowhere...refugee's who come by boat from all over the world are stuck straight in their. No white people of course. Little kids, babies...terrible conditions.

The joke is, that on average...%80 will be granted refugee status. They spend years in their. They have only just started allowing mothers and kids out into the community. I've met some of these people through the hospital system...absoloute horror stories! HUGE scars over their bodies, torture marks...terrible. But, they be "Muzzies" and peices of shit so...who cares? You wont see "whitey" in their.

Just wait FREEMAN. Being locked up does strange things to a person. Put decent people behind wire for spurious reasons and you will get a riot...and many deaths.

I spent 8 days on remand awaiting sentencing at a maximum security prison here in Oz. I'm a big guy and know the streets well. I had nothing to fear on the physical level. However, it really fucked with my mind. For the first 3 days I had a ball...going through ALL the process's, being stripped searched, tight security restrictions. Meeting hard core multi millionair drug dealers who were in the process of paying their way out, been all over the world and by the way they talked had serious connections...George Jung (movie "Blow") is right, go in with a Bachelor in Marijuana and come out with a pHD in Heroin. However, after 3 days I got really edgy and felt the most OVERWHELMING depression and sense of helplessness. "I could not leave." The STATE had me by the balls. My "liberty" was taken and their was NOTHING I could do about it. I understand what that word "l-i-b-e-r-t-y" means now.

I will never cage an animal. Never.

Imagine you are FORCED into one of these camps. You are an upstanding citizen. Imagine you have a family outside or indeed are in their with you? NO man is going to tolerate it. I assure you. Their will be riots and deaths. Thousands of them. The words..."I know my rights" will mean nothing. Add in a nice load of national gaurd just back from Iraq...hardened...good luck.

Recipe for mass murder.

10-23-2005, 03:27 AM
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