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Thumper
09-21-2005, 10:18 AM
yay or nay? :-o

Nexuseuss
09-21-2005, 10:22 AM
Not sure still.

I recieved them until the teen years, and later had my son vaccinated for the basics, and no more.

Too many immune deficiency questions seem unanswered on this still.

Though in a world outbreak, it could be the meaning between life and death, so I'm torn.

I'd probably get my son vaccinated if possible, and then head off into the middle of nowhere for 3-6 months, unvaccinated.

Tough one.

09-21-2005, 10:50 AM
Nah!

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Come on. They sell us drugs on television that can cure our ills with a list of about 2,000 side-effects. But, we should ask our doctor about it even though the side effects sound worse than the problem itself.

Geez!! How 'bout our doctor diagnosing and prescribing for us instead of sitting in front of our TV and deciding for ourselves that we have the physical problem they are describing and then telling our doctor THIS particular drug would be good for our symptoms.

And, vaccinations, the only risk they advise is that 1 in what? 10 million could be fatal.

That's it.

No other side effects?

Hard to believe!!

The only safe vaccination is to vaccinate yourself against their lies that they have in their possession the remedies that can "cure or prevent what ills us!"

They ill us!!

Okay, enough exclamation points on Thumper's topic and enough preaching.

But, what about this one!!

"See your doctor immediately, if your erection lasts longer than four hours as permanent damage might occur."

Yet, society ingests these "sexual" stimulants as if "SEX" is the answer to their problems. As if we are a mass of people who aren't functioning according to THEIR "NORMAL" sexual standards.

I guess they've created a society where SEX SELLS!!

Shannow
09-21-2005, 03:02 PM
delivery room discussions with doctors.

Shannow : "what's that ?"
Doctor : "Hep B Vaccine"
Shannow : "Why, we've both been tested and don't have it, so the baby won't come into close contact with it."
Doctor: "it's standard procedure, and recommended"
Shannow : "How long do we have to sterilise baby bottles for."
Doctor : "Until she's at least one year old"
Shannow : "Why ?"
Doctor : "because the immune system isn't developed enough to respond to pathogens until a year old."
Shannow : "We'll pass on the Hep B until she's got an immune system then."
Doctor : "That's a big risk that you are taking, do you know what Hep B does to a person ?"
Shannow : "Yes, see my first point".


Shortly after, I cut the top of my finger off, and had to have a tetanus shot...friggin thing ached for 8 weeks (apparently a normal reaction).

truebeliever
09-21-2005, 07:33 PM
The answer to vaccinations is No, No, No, oh and ...no.

Hep B is a CLASSIC! What crap! It is fucking ludacris! Trust the medical mafia at your peril. The plebs you speak to who reply VERY enthusiastically about the safety of these things are parrots and do not have a fucking clue.

You MUST stand up to them. There is not a SINGLE mid wife who will recommend these things in private but are COMPELLED by government edict to tell you the opposite. ALL midwives use natural techniques for enhancing the immune system.

It is a BIG decision...you must also consider retiring to a small community in the next few years.

I would like to think a miracle will happen but i do not think so. You do not have time to smell the roses...make some major decisions over the next 12 months then make plans for a MAJOR lifestyle change in the country. Your life is at stake and the life of your children.

Just how much more evidence do you need of their evil and what they are capable of?

09-21-2005, 08:34 PM
Okay, all the like-minded people here, where shall we settle and hunker down in the next few years when the time finally comes to fight against the NWO and their ownership of U.S.?

I have always loved Colorado!!

truebeliever
09-21-2005, 09:40 PM
"He was born in the summer of his 27th year, coming home to a place he'd never been before.

He left yesterday behind him, you might say he was born again.

Might say he'd found a key to every door..."

ta la la la la...see, we all have our vices.

nomad
09-22-2005, 04:19 AM
Thumper wrote:
yay or nay? :-o

Some time in the future you may not have a choice

they can easily pass a law making vaccination of

any kind MANDATORY ... now because of the

guillibility of the masses they will agree to

putting you away because you are putting them

at risk.

Saturnino
09-22-2005, 07:51 AM
This issue is more complicated than it seems. What if you have a kid and you don't vaccinate him and he gets polio, for example ? I agree that some vaccines are weird (Hep B, smallpox, etc.) but the usual ones ? I've seen people with meningitis and it is dreadful.
Screwed if you do, screwed if you don't.

freeman
09-22-2005, 10:38 AM
Screwed if you do, screwed if you don't.

I suspect the real issue may be purity of the vaccine.
Have any of you been following Robert Kennedy, Jr.'s taking up the cause of contaminated vaccines? Even he is now corroborating what others like Eustace Mullins have been saying for years, that vaccines are often (and possibly deliberately) contaminated with other agents. Kennedy cites CDC evidence that many child vaccines have been contaminated with mercury (thimerosal) and coalates that with the recent dramatic rise of autism and other neurological disorders in children.

Deadly Immunity (Screwed if you do, screwed if you don't.)

...Wonder how long it will be now before Little Bobby meets up with a convenient accident like his cousin John-John?

this
09-22-2005, 12:41 PM
I started a thread once on CC on this topic, I concur with TB that the whole issue is a farce. Saturnino, there's a good chance that polio is caused by DDT, and meningitis caused by vaccines.

Did God put you on the earth with a vaccination deficiency? Our immune system is meant to react to microorganisms through our respiratory tract, alimentary canal etc, not directly into the blood stream.

As to defending against syringe wielding killers, we have to ask why vaccines don't go through normal double blind testing protocols. Incredibly important point, think about it.

09-22-2005, 04:14 PM
Don't submit!

They just use us as guinea pigs!!

09-22-2005, 05:56 PM
BlueAngel wrote:
Okay, all the like-minded people here, where shall we settle and hunker down in the next few years when the time finally comes to fight against the NWO and their ownership of U.S.?

I have always loved Colorado!!

It is your game. We did not invent it

09-22-2005, 06:27 PM
Leviathan wrote:

BlueAngel wrote:
Okay, all the like-minded people here, where shall we settle and hunker down in the next few years when the time finally comes to fight against the NWO and their ownership of U.S.?

I have always loved Colorado!!

It is your game. We did not invent it

No, you're wrong.

It is not my game!

09-22-2005, 06:47 PM
BlueAngel wrote:
Nah!

!

!

!

!

!

Come on. They sell us drugs on television that can cure our ills with a list of about 2,000 side-effects. But, we should ask our doctor about it even though the side effects sound worse than the problem itself.

Geez!! How 'bout our doctor diagnosing and prescribing for us instead of sitting in front of our TV and deciding for ourselves that we have the physical problem they are describing and then telling our doctor THIS particular drug would be good for our symptoms.

And, vaccinations, the only risk they advise is that 1 in what? 10 million could be fatal.

That's it.

No other side effects?

Hard to believe!!

The only safe vaccination is to vaccinate yourself against their lies that they have in their possession the remedies that can "cure or prevent what ills us!"

They ill us!!

Okay, enough exclamation points on Thumper's topic and enough preaching.

But, what about this one!!

"See your doctor immediately, if your erection lasts longer than four hours as permanent damage might occur."

Yet, society ingests these "sexual" stimulants as if "SEX" is the answer to their problems. As if we are a mass of people who aren't functioning according to THEIR "NORMAL" sexual standards.

I guess they've created a society where SEX SELLS!!
only if you approve
BlueAngel wrote:
Obviously, you believe your behavior to be mature.

Obviously, it is not!![/quote][/quote]
We Learned this behavior from you are you therefore less than mature or do you not like your game being played with you as you do with others.

09-22-2005, 07:50 PM
Are you on an acid trip?

Nexuseuss
09-23-2005, 12:44 AM
Saturnino wrote:
This issue is more complicated than it seems. What if you have a kid and you don't vaccinate him and he gets polio, for example ? I agree that some vaccines are weird (Hep B, smallpox, etc.) but the usual ones ? I've seen people with meningitis and it is dreadful.
Screwed if you do, screwed if you don't.

I sort of agree with you on this.

We're hung up on staying alive at any cost, to the detriment of our race. Pre industrialized times, you either recovered or you didn't, and the disease was eventually eradicated through breeding and immune systems.

Now we plug holes with synthetics, and watch our human hull weaken even faster to the next mutation or new environment inspired mystery illness.

Children become deadly sick because their parents won't let them eat dirt. Breast milk is inconvenient, most of us can't drink water from it's source without dysentary.

What other option but to use medical science even in slight degrees is there?

The moment society weakens, is the moment when you're faced with a number of raging illnesses you'd be lucky to survive just one of a few hundred years ago.

Tough choice, do the right thing by your species and refuse treatments that weaken our bodies in an overall scheme, or keep yourself and your children alive for the day.

Choose yourself, or choose your species.

10-04-2005, 09:35 AM
Vaccine Ingredients -
Formaldehyde, Aspartame,
Mercury, Etc
11-11-4

This following list of common vaccines and their ingredients should shock anyone.

The numbers of microbes, antibiotics, chemicals, heavy metals and animal byproducts is staggering. Would you knowingly inject these materials into your children?

Acel-Immune DTaP - Diphtheria-Tetanus-Pertussis Wyeth-Ayerst 800.934.5556
* diphtheria and tetanus toxoids and acellular pertussis adsorbed, formaldehyde, aluminum hydroxide, aluminum phosphate, thimerosal, and polysorbate 80 (Tween-80) gelatin Act HIB

Haemophilus - Influenza B Connaught Laboratories 800.822.2463
* Haemophilus influenza Type B, polyribosylribitol phosphate ammonium sulfate, formalin, and sucrose

Attenuvax - Measles Merck & Co., Inc. 800-672-6372
* measles live virus neomycin sorbitol hydrolized gelatin, chick embryo

Biavax - Rubella Merck & Co., Inc. 800-672-6372
* rubella live virus neomycin sorbitol hydrolized gelatin, human diploid cells from aborted fetal tissue

BioThrax - Anthrax Adsorbed BioPort Corporation 517.327.1500
* nonencapsulated strain of Bacillus anthracis aluminum hydroxide, benzethonium chloride, and formaldehyde

DPT - Diphtheria-Tetanus-Pertussis GlaxoSmithKline 800.366.8900 x5231
* diphtheria and tetanus toxoids and acellular pertussis adsorbed, formaldehyde, aluminum phosphate, ammonium sulfate, and thimerosal, washed sheep RBCs

Dryvax - Smallpox (not licensed d/t expiration) Wyeth-Ayerst 800.934.5556
* live vaccinia virus, with "some microbial contaminants," according to the Working Group on Civilian Biodefense polymyxcin B sulfate, streptomycin sulfate, chlortetracycline hydrochloride, and neomycin sulfate glycerin, and phenol -a compound obtained by distillation of coal tar vesicle fluid from calf skins Engerix-B

Recombinant Hepatitis B GlaxoSmithKline 800.366.8900 x5231
* genetic sequence of the hepatitis B virus that codes for the surface antigen (HbSAg), cloned into GMO yeast, aluminum hydroxide, and thimerosal

Fluvirin Medeva Pharmaceuticals 888.MEDEVA 716.274.5300
* influenza virus, neomycin, polymyxin, beta-propiolactone, chick embryonic fluid

FluShield Wyeth-Ayerst 800.934.5556
* trivalent influenza virus, types A&B gentamicin sulphate formadehyde, thimerosal, and polysorbate 80 (Tween-80) chick embryonic fluid

Havrix - Hepatitis A GlaxoSmithKline 800.366.8900 x5231
* hepatitis A virus, formalin, aluminum hydroxide, 2-phenoxyethanol, and polysorbate 20 residual MRC5 proteins -human diploid cells from aborted fetal tissue

HiB Titer - Haemophilus Influenza B Wyeth-Ayerst 800.934.5556
* haemophilus influenza B, polyribosylribitol phosphate, yeast, ammonium sulfate, thimerosal, and chemically defined yeast-based medium

Imovax Connaught Laboratories 800.822.2463
* rabies virus adsorbed, neomycin sulfate, phenol, red indicator human albumin, human diploid cells from aborted fetal tissue

IPOL Connaught Laboratories 800.822.2463
* 3 types of polio viruses neomycin, streptomycin, and polymyxin B formaldehyde, and 2-phenoxyethenol continuous line of monkey kidney cells

JE-VAX - Japanese Ancephalitis Aventis Pasteur USA 800.VACCINE
* Nakayama-NIH strain of Japanese encephalitis virus, inactivated formaldehyde, polysorbate 80 (Tween-80), and thimerosal mouse serum proteins, and gelatin

LYMErix - Lyme GlaxoSmithKline 888-825-5249
* recombinant protein (OspA) from the outer surface of the spirochete Borrelia burgdorferi kanamycin aluminum hydroxide, 2-phenoxyethenol, phosphate buffered saline

MMR - Measles-Mumps-Rubella Merck & Co., Inc. 800.672.6372
* measles, mumps, rubella live virus, neomycin sorbitol, hydrolized gelatin, chick embryonic fluid, and human diploid cells from aborted fetal tissue

M-R-Vax - Measles-Rubella Merck & Co., Inc. 800.672.6372
* measles, rubella live virus neomycin sorbitol hydrolized gelatin, chick embryonic fluid, and human diploid cells from aborted fetal tissue

Menomune - Meningococcal Connaught Laboratories 800.822.2463
* freeze-dried polysaccharide antigens from Neisseria meningitidis bacteria, thimerosal, and lactose

Meruvax I - Mumps Merck & Co., Inc. 800.672.6372
* mumps live virus neomycin sorbitol hydrolized gelatin

NYVAC - (new smallpox batch, not licensed) Aventis Pasteur USA 800.VACCINE
* highly-attenuated vaccinia virus, polymyxcin B, sulfate, streptomycin sulfate, chlortetracycline hydrochloride, and neomycin sulfate glycerin, and phenol -a compound obtained by distillation of coal tar vesicle fluid from calf skins

Orimune - Oral Polio Wyeth-Ayerst 800.934.5556
* 3 types of polio viruses, attenuated neomycin, streptomycin sorbitol monkey kidney cells and calf serum

Pneumovax - Streptococcus Pneumoniae Merck & Co., Inc. 800.672.6372
* capsular polysaccharides from polyvalent (23 types), pneumococcal bacteria, phenol,

Prevnar Pneumococcal - 7-Valent Conjugate Vaccine Wyeth Lederle 800.934.5556
* saccharides from capsular Streptococcus pneumoniae antigens (7 serotypes) individually conjugated to diphtheria CRM 197 protein aluminum phosphate, ammonium sulfate, soy protein, yeast

RabAvert - Rabies Chiron Behring GmbH & Company 510.655.8729
* fixed-virus strain, Flury LEP neomycin, chlortetracycline, and amphotericin B, potassium glutamate, and sucrose human albumin, bovine gelatin and serum "from source countries known to be free of bovine spongioform encephalopathy," and chicken protein

Rabies Vaccine Adsorbed GlaxoSmithKline 800.366.8900 x5231
*rabies virus adsorbed, beta-propiolactone, aluminum phosphate, thimerosal, and phenol, red rhesus monkey fetal lung cells

Recombivax - Recombinant Hepatitis B Merck & Co., Inc. 800.672.6372
* genetic sequence of the hepatitis B virus that codes for the surface antigen (HbSAg), cloned into GMO yeast, aluminum hydroxide, and thimerosal

RotaShield - Oral Tetravalent Rotavirus (recalled) Wyeth-Ayerst 800.934.5556
* 1 rhesus monkey rotavirus, 3 rhesus-human reassortant live viruses neomycin sulfate, amphotericin B potassium monophosphate, potassium diphosphate, sucrose, and monosodium glutamate (MSG) rhesus monkey fetal diploid cells, and bovine fetal serum smallpox (not licensed due to expiration)

40-yr old stuff "found" in Swiftwater, PA freezer Aventis Pasteur USA 800.VACCINE
* live vaccinia virus, with "some microbial contaminants," according to the Working Group on Civilian Biodefense polymyxcin B sulfate, streptomycin sulfate, chlortetracycline hydrochloride, and neomycin sulfate glycerin, and phenol -a compound obtained by distillation of coal tar vesicle fluid from calf skins

Smallpox (new, not licensed) Acambis, Inc. 617.494.1339 in partnership with Baxter BioScience
* highly-attenuated vaccinia virus, polymyxcin B sulfate, streptomycin sulfate, chlortetracycline hydrochloride, and neomycin sulfate glycerin, and phenol -a compound obtained by distillation of coal tar vesicle fluid from calf skins

TheraCys BCG (intravesicle -not licensed in US for tuberculosis) Aventis Pasteur USA 800.VACCINE
* live attenuated strain of Mycobacterium bovis monosodium glutamate (MSG), and polysorbate 80 (Tween-80)

Tripedia - Diphtheria-Tetanus-Pertussis Aventis Pasteur USA 800.VACCINE
*Corynebacterium diphtheriae and Clostridium tetani toxoids and acellular Bordetella pertussis adsorbed aluminum potassium sulfate, formaldehyde, thimerosal, and polysorbate 80 (Tween-80) gelatin, bovine extract

US-sourced Typhim Vi - Typhoid Aventis Pasteur USA SA 800.VACCINE
* cell surface Vi polysaccharide from Salmonella typhi Ty2 strain, aspartame, phenol, and polydimethylsiloxane (silicone)

Varivax - Chickenpox Merck & Co., Inc. 800.672.6372
* varicella live virus neomycin phosphate, sucrose, and monosodium glutamate (MSG) processed gelatin, fetal bovine serum, guinea pig embryo cells, albumin from human blood, and human diploid cells from aborted fetal tissue

YF-VAX - Yellow Fever Aventis Pasteur USA 800.VACCINE
* 17D strain of yellow fever virus sorbitol chick embryo, and gelatin

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freeman
10-04-2005, 01:45 PM
This is exactly what Little Bobby Kennedy determined when he recently took up the cause of contaminated vaccines.

Deadly Immunity (http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0616-31.htm)

Wonder how long it will be before Bush and the Illuminati put out another contract with the Jesuits?

Barbara
10-04-2005, 05:27 PM
New York Times


Five Develop Nerve Disorder After Receiving Meningitis Vaccine

By DENISE GRADY

Published: October 1, 2005

Five teenagers developed a serious neurological disorder after receiving the vaccine Menactra, which prevents a severe and deadly form of meningitis, the F.D.A. reported.

nomad
10-04-2005, 05:51 PM
I saw a report last year where 5 old folks from

the same retirement home died immediately after

getting a flu shot ... polls have shown that the

nurses overwelmingly refuse to take the virus or

what we call vaccines, themselves.

10-04-2005, 06:00 PM
Don't do it.

Dozens of teenagers are dead this fall because they have meningitus shots given to them. The problem: The bacteria wasn't 'quite' dead.

Same goes for flu. No point in getting a shot for a flu that 1) Will actually weaken the immune system by focussing on the particular at the expense of general immunity, and 2) Is a strain of flu that in all likelyhood will not be a problem in your area.

It is "planned illness": you had better damned well believe it.

I've never had a flu shot, never will.