View Full Version : Reshaping the Middle East and/or World War III?
03-24-2011, 09:25 AM
04-02-2011, 09:03 AM
Afghanistan, Iraq, Egypt, Bahrain, Lybia.
Is Syria next?
Nope....Iran will be next and then North Korea.
I just think that US being involve trying to "save the world" is a joke. It makes me start to wonder at times...WTF? It's no wonder why we make so many enemies around the world. JMO
04-02-2011, 07:16 PM
Hmmm...really? Syria? Nahhh, if it is Syria...its only because Obama is making an excuse NOT to go after Iran and North Korea.
Read the newspapers? Its too depressing. Nothing worth reading these days. lol
Yep, the US is trying to save the world. They are everywhere. But of course, courtesy of those ELITESTS.
Sorry, but, Syria is already happening so your prediction would be wrong.
Do you watch the news or read the paper?
The US is not trying to save the world.
The ELITISTS are protecting their OIL interests in Libya as Obama told us several times in his speech to the nation regarding our military involvement in Libya.
04-02-2011, 07:45 PM
Ok, let me ask you a question: If the US isn't out there trying to "save the world". Why are we still all over the world? We still have soldiers and humanitarian aides after a decade or more? You don't think these soldiers in Afghanistan "just showed up" a few years ago. Most have been there since the 1970's and 1980's. And, it's not just in Afghanistan, they are in other countries. They should be home where they belong. You don't think they have done their time?
Ok, I will buy the fact, its all about the Oil. It's always been about the Oil. BUT since the Presidential Election happens to be next year - 2012. I believe that Obama is trying to win back those Independent voters he lost. So, what a better way than to "do things right" when he should have been doing them two years ago. Why the long wait? It's because, he wants to be re-elected.
The US isn't trying to save the world.
That's what they want you to believe.
The ELITISTS are protecting their OIL and DRUG interests by reshaping the Middle East to their liking.
Sorry, but there isn't any reason to go after Iran or North Korea at the moment, so Obama hasn't made any excuses.
Like I said, Syria.
2011 Syrian protests - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria_protests)
04-02-2011, 07:56 PM
Banned? For what? I was just asking a question.
Why on earth have you come to the conclusion that I don't think our military men and women should be home instead of fighting wars for the GLOBAL elitists whom they use to protect their interests ABROAD instead of for the purpose protecting America from imment threat of danger and/or hostile take-over.
Don't EVER suggest through your comments that I have said that which I have not or you will be banned.
04-02-2011, 08:01 PM
Well, it was a general question, BA...I am sure you would want them home. I am sorry I didn't make that clear. I thought you would be able to "read between the lines".
For suggesting that I don't think our military men and women should be at home instead of fighting wars for the GLOBAL elitists ABROAD.
Are we clear?
04-02-2011, 08:08 PM
Don't EVER assume that you can post on this forum thoughts that you think I have spoken, but have not.
That is what will get you banned.
Read what I post and refrain from adding your own conjecture.
i.e., that which is not there, but what you imagine to be.
Well, I wasn't assuming that you wouldn't want them home. I am sure you would love that to happen. I was asking a general question regarding to what I have been saying along.
We have men and women overseas, just as well, as the Middle East. Most have been there for decades, if not more. I believe that, its all fueled by these politicians who think that The US can somehow "save the world".
04-02-2011, 08:23 PM
What is it you are not getting?
The US is in Afghanistan because of the poppy fields.
The US is in Iraq because of the oil.
It has nothing to do with saving the world.
911 was orchestrated so the take-over of these countries could ensue and our military men and women could be used to further the agenda of the GLOBAL elitists.
The CIA funds their "black operations" through the sale of drugs and pornography.
Afghanistan did not have poppy fields until we invaded and ousted the Taliban.
Why the hell do you think we've been there for ten years?
I am so stupid to belive that the Taliban's military is greater than that of the United State's.
Obama said the other night that the US is the greatest military on the face of the planet.
So, why then can we not defeat the Taliban?
We already have.
We're in Afghanistan making a fortune on the poppy fields.
Ok, so you don't think its quite ironic that we are a year from the Presidential Election, that Obama is trying to "do right" when he should have done that all along for the past three years? It's quite ironic that He wants to oust Qaddafi, when President Bush and Clinton should have done that a decade ago. He wants to simply "do the right thing" so he can get re-elected and win back support from the American people.
04-02-2011, 08:55 PM
Please tell me what you think OBAMA is trying to do right now that he should have done all along for the past three years?
Under what circumstances should Bush and/or Clinton have ousted Khadafi?
Again, please tell the forum what "right thing" you belive Obama is doing in order to help in his re-election?
In order to help his re-election, I suggest OBAMA might pay attention to the country he was elected to represent and put people back to work.
Ok, this is just my opinion, I believe that Obama wants to do right for the country. Its odd that he is doing just that, when he should have done all this in his first three years in office. Invading Libya was Father Bush's that was eventually left to President Clinton in the 1990's. Then of course, that got dumped on GW Bush, which neither Presidents have "declared victory" on getting rid of Khadafi. So, President Obama wants the American people to "believe" that he is capable of "taking out" the Libyan leader. It would look good for him. He believes that Khadafi should have been gone a long time ago. So, this is his time to "shine in the glory".
If he succeeds, he will be the one that "took out" Khadafi. But of course, with the help from France, the UK, and other countries. As well, as NATO.
Just wait and see, I am sure you will read or see, in the news if he succeeds...his approval ratings will skyrocket. And, people will somehow come to terms, he did what the presidents should have done a long time ago.
04-02-2011, 09:13 PM
Khadafi was not a threat to America.
No one was even thinking about taking out Khadafi.
No one in America cares whether Obama takes out Khadif or not.
We're more concerned about our economic situation, but apparently, Obama is not.
C'mon, do you read your history? For many years now, the American government always wanted to end the Gaddafi presidency. It's been noted in history.
He is NOT a threat to America itself. That is what the politicians want us all to believe. He is a threat to his own people. And, the American government feels they have a role to stop him. They are "playing God", instead of taking care of their own country - The United States.
Yes, we are more concern about the economy and the health of our nation. I agree that Obama doesn't care. But it makes good politics. That's all he cares.
04-02-2011, 09:18 PM
Just thought I share this with you:
History of Libya under Muammar al-Gaddafi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Libya_under_Muammar_al-Gaddafi)
04-02-2011, 10:12 PM
Why do you insist on copying my words as if they were your own?
I said that Kadafi is not a threat to America.
You didn't say this.
No one in America believes that Kadafi is a threat to America and our politicians, at present, have never indicated to us that he is.
I have no clue what you think makes good politics and I don't care.
Hahaha...wow, I did. I guessed, I was saying that our politicians wanted us to "believe" that he was a threat. Opps...I swallowed my own words.
Anyways, enough said.
04-02-2011, 10:19 PM
Not one of our politicians, at present, ever said that Kadafi was a threat to our country,
Sorry, pal, but you might think you've said enough, but I haven't.
Hmmm....back in 1995, I believe that Senator John Kerry from Massachusetts did. I will try to get the video.
04-02-2011, 10:23 PM
Yes, please do.
Because, you know, something that Kerry said back in 1995 is completely relevant to the present.
Ok, I can't get the 1995 video. But here is the present vid.
YouTube - Senate Session 2011-03-07 (18:13:50-19:14:21)
04-02-2011, 10:40 PM
This is a present video of what?
Well, I couldn't find the video where Senator John Kerry stated back in 1995, he wanted America to "get rid of Gaddafi". So, I gave you the present one, where he and Senator John McCain talked about the same issue.
I don't blame you if you don't want to watch the whole thing. It's an hour long.
04-02-2011, 11:36 PM
I don't care to watch the hour long video, but since you have, kindly tell us about McCain and Kerry's conversation.
Not that it matters, but a summarization will suffice.
Well, I haven't sat through the whole video myself. I just grabbed it when I "Googled" John Kerry on Gaddafi. It doesn't matter. I was just trying to make constructive conversation. That's all.
04-02-2011, 11:45 PM
Here's another video from John Kerry stating that it was "in the best interest" for America to remove Gaddafi. It was from "Face the Nation".
Kerry: Removing Qaddafi is in America's interest - CBS News Video (http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7358612n)
04-02-2011, 11:51 PM
What is your point?
Haha....you're funny! :)
04-02-2011, 11:53 PM
You can't make constructive conversation if you don't know what you're talking about.
You are cute, too! LOL
04-02-2011, 11:55 PM
My point is, there was a politician that felt it was a dire need to remove the Libyan leader.
04-03-2011, 12:38 AM
There isn't ONE politician at presnt who indicated there was a dire need to remove Kadafi.
BTW, I don't give a sh*t about any politican and what they say.
04-03-2011, 01:01 AM
You're a hypocrite.
You write about Kerry, McCain, etc., and what they say and then say you you don't give a shit about what our politicans say.
You're a hypocrite.
Huh? I was writing about Kerry and McCain about the fact, they were politicians that wanted the Libyan leader gone, because they felt it was "good of the American interest". That doesn't mean, I give any shit about any of them. Because I really don't. They are nothing more than the Great Manipulators.
What I said has nothing about me favoring or giving a shit about them. So, how am I a hypocrite?
04-03-2011, 01:19 AM
I refer you to your words about the Japanese people and how you said that they got what they deserved.
Hmmm....we having a typo problem? lol
04-03-2011, 01:23 AM
You reference Kerry, McCain, etc., to support your arguments and then say you don't give a shit about what our politicians say.
You're a hypocrite.
Yes, I did reference Kerry and McCain. Only to make a statement referring to that the politicians (besides Obama) want to see that Libyan scum go. That has nothing to do with the fact, I like them. I despise them. Which means, I don't give a rat's ass about them.
05-18-2012, 05:41 AM
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