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Billy
09-22-2005, 11:18 PM
Hi, I was just wondering about the basic common sense / logic behind having a website devoted to this sort of thing.

Okay, let's say there are all kinds of groups behind the scenes, messing with people, why would they allow this website to operate for very long? Why would people who control others through hypnosis, et al, allow people to group together and form some kind of resistance?

Also, if a website operates for very long, why are people supposed to trust it?

I'm sorry if these questions have already been asked and answered.

Thanks.

psholtz
09-22-2005, 11:51 PM
Nobody in any government agency has the manpower or willpower or budget to go after every single potential loose citizen who "might" be a threat to their hegemony. They only go after the big fish, the people who really threaten them (in tangible ways), and then usually proceed to make very public examples of them so as to terrorize the population into submission. But the fact is that all totalitarians rely more on the image and threat of force, then they actually do on force itself (or in other words, the implied threat of force is ALWAYS wider and broader in scope than the actual PHYSICAL use of force).

Don't believe the lies that the government is monitoring every last piece of communication and spying in on someone, etc.. *perhaps* they do have the technology/equipment to capture every last piece of communication (although even this I highly, highly doubt, just from an economics and cost-of-computing standpoint.. you'd basically have to replicate the entire communications grid off in some secret government basement somewhere and keep it up to date in real-time, which I believe is extremely unlikely), and .. even supposing that they do have such technology, they simply don't have the manpower to sift through it all..

Again, it's more about public show of force and intimidation than anything.. I've been to a number of hacker conferences (e.g., 2600, etc) and invariably they always have some "spook" from NSA or CIA come up and give some presentation -- someone who "pretends" to be on "your side" -- but he's "warning" you about all the "powers" that the government has to spy on you, etc.. The fact is, the files that the government does keep on most Americans are soo out of date (or wildly, wildly inaccurate) as to be laughable, or else (even more often) these spooks are simply flat-out lying to you .. to create the IMAGE that they have more power than they really do and terrify you (if in a "friendly" way) into submission..

Also, never forget this: the number of Washington Insiders who are *truly* connected w/ the Satanic Illuminati, etc, probably does not number more than 1,000 people or so.. that leaves about 250 million of us. The numbers are anything but in their favor. Don't ever forget that..

psholtz
09-22-2005, 11:53 PM
The other obvious point is that half the people on this site (seem to) believe in shape-shifting lizard people..

I highly doubt that the government is going to waste the resources going after people whom it has already successfully brainwashed and misled w/ its own lies and propaganda and disinformation..

Such people are not a threat to ANYBODY other than themselves..

Billy
09-23-2005, 12:39 AM
Thank you, psholtz.

truebeliever
09-23-2005, 05:57 AM
Dear Billy,

Just what could our Masters ACTUALLY do to stop us?

1) Lock us up for what?

2) Ban the site...under what law?**

3) Kill us all...hmmmm, some one might notice. Hard to trace us. "Practically" impossible.

**Actually you'd be all for a law would'nt you? And thats the point. "They" ARE seeking too ban "us". And baby **Fur Seal** huggers such as yourself will clap your hands as the Ministry Of Love, under the auspicious's of the free love for all U.N, march us to the gulags. You will even cheer! And that is why I HATE the stupid Left slightly more than the stupid Right.

**I have nothing against Baby Fur Seals personally as long as they keep their filthy agenda to themselves. Innocent looking? Not the ones I know.**

8-)

Saturnino
09-23-2005, 08:19 AM
Cost versus benefit.

Billy
09-24-2005, 03:33 AM
truebeliever wrote:

(nonsense)


I think that from now on I'll just ignore you because you're a dumb-as-a-stump troll and an NWO tool.

Billy
09-24-2005, 03:35 AM
Thank you, Saturnino.

truebeliever
09-24-2005, 03:39 AM
And yet...by a quirk of fate...by some sort of unconscious yearning...by, perhaps the vagueries of synchronistic phenomenon...tis you with the Maccas avatar?

I think that from now on I'll just ignore you because you're a dumb-as-a-stump troll and an NWO tool.

Are you familiar with the term "projection"?

Hi, new here. Have stupid questions. Trust no one.

Hi - True - Especially Lefties bearing "Hate Laws".

Hmmmmm...dumb as a stump...name the subject tree hugger... 8-)

You actually dont have a clue what the NWO "is" do you?

Be sein you in da showers "Puffin Billy"...

Nexuseuss
09-24-2005, 09:50 AM
They have the system to collect information and such, and if the red flags mount up on a high level, they'll investigate selectively.

Though it doesn't take a rocket scientist with wide powers, and top of the range technology and surveillance software to isolate, track down, and ruin someone's life if they're becoming a nuisance.

The fact that most of the people here seem to publish information about themselves without thinking about it, assures any skip tracer with half a lobe can find and ruin someone just the same.

People really are quite stupid. Just look at the reference to a train in Outer Eastern Melbourne, by TB, to see how going over his posts would pretty much deliver you on his front door in the matter of a few weeks.

That's assuming of course, you percieve him to be a threat, a crafty wordsmith and intellectual and charismatic leader of the oppressed and fallen, and worthy of your time and resources.

Having said that, nobody would bother with TB, obviously. :-?

09-24-2005, 10:17 AM
LOOK!!!!!

If you think someone on this site is a NWO tool then you 'ought to present your case and we'll do the debunking for you.

As far as trolls, I think Leviathan takes the prize so far.

If they "perceive" you to be a threat, they can wreak havoc on your life.

If you're a victim of a mind control program, they have the capability of using their low-life "operatives" to cause CHAOS in your life.

There are a myriad of ways.

I don't need to go over the list.

But, small plane crashes, drop of poison, disease, made to look like a suicide.

ETC., ETC.

09-24-2005, 10:19 AM
The "basic" common sense/logic behind a website like this is to expose the corrupt entities, humans (if you want to call them that), within our government and abroad who conduct their business and not the business of the people, by the people and for the people.

In otherwords, the criminals, pedophiles and satanists who ought not be in positions of power but rather behind bars.

Billy
09-25-2005, 04:38 PM
I hope that everybodyís paying attention to how this truebelieverís been harassing and trying desperately to discredit me every time I post. Sound familiar? Every spook Iíve encountered does this. He has me pegged for a wimp who will back down under his bullying. Iím not scared of him. Iím scared FOR him.

And, truebeliever, if youíre actually not a spook, stop acting like one. Your attacking me is not justified. Iím not whatever you think I am. Iím just Christian and doing my best to follow Jesus and trying not to let this world go down the toilet. Weíre allowed to disagree without your thinking that Iím the bad guy. Please simply state that you think that Iím wrong in how I do things and I will be respectful of that.

Peace to you, truebeliever. Iím sorry if I offended you in any way. Truce, please. You have a choice now: continue attacking me relentlessly and everybody can believe that youíre nothing but a spook, bully, and goon, or we can join together and fight as a team against the NWO. You decide.

nomad
09-25-2005, 06:16 PM
psholtz wrote:
The other obvious point is that half the people on this site (seem to) believe in shape-shifting lizard people..

I highly doubt that the government is going to waste the resources going after people whom it has already successfully brainwashed and misled w/ its own lies and propaganda and disinformation..

Such people are not a threat to ANYBODY other than themselves..

Very well expressed psholtz ... people believing

in lizards scare me.

:-D

truebeliever
09-25-2005, 11:37 PM
People really are quite stupid. Just look at the reference to a train in Outer Eastern Melbourne, by TB, to see how going over his posts would pretty much deliver you on his front door in the matter of a few weeks.

That's assuming of course, you percieve him to be a threat, a crafty wordsmith and intellectual and charismatic leader of the oppressed and fallen, and worthy of your time and resources.

Having said that, nobody would bother with TB, obviously.

Actually I live in Perth, West Oz.

I have been surveilled for 2 years. Mostly they were nice. Till they took $290 from a bill envelope. They needed me because there were no interesting people to surveille. Budgets must be kept!

It seems that people like you must remain anonamous NEX...because you are a tosser lurking about your forum of choice with your multiple "nicks".

"Let your yes be yes! and your no, no!"

You should read the bible more NEX. You might learn something about standing up straight and level before the man instead of skulking like a beaten dog around the forums stirring the pot for amusement. 8-)

Later, you weak willed Dawgggggggg...

truebeliever
09-25-2005, 11:57 PM
As for you "Puffin Billy"...here's why I find you offensive...

And even that wouldn't prompt me to post about it if there wasn't this Christian superiority complex running through most threads. Almost a deliberate rubbing-of-noses in certain people's superiority simply because of what church you attend.

Including your Church of the eternally "tolerant".

People who practice a religion that you don't practice aren't evil. This includes witchcraft, which is a real religion called Wicca, which has the main rule that whatever you do comes back on threefold, so they aren't hurting anybody if they know what's good for them. It's different from Satanism. It's different from Paganism. It's different from New Age Spiritualism. READ A BOOK.

Wheeeeeewie!!!! Where do I begin with this one? Please note this quote from this thread...

Iím just Christian and doing my best to follow Jesus and trying not to let this world go down the toilet.

Cue laughter...

I don't know why I'm explaining this if you still think that people of the Jewish faith are evil. Oh wow! Just thinking about how people still think the jews are evil shocks me!

Just which "branch" of Judaism are we talking about? Feel free to embrace your Jewish brothers in down town Jerusalem or Tel Aviv with a "I Love Jesus" T-Shirt...take some face wash.

There are so many religions out there populated with people just trying to achieve their highest spiritual potential. It makes me sick when people spit on that.

Indeed. Christ can tell you all about people spitting on your religion...and in your face.

Truly, your views show that the age of innocence has not yet passed. Tis you my friend who needs to read a book and indeed watch some documentaries. Heres one for you...

www.members.iinet.net.au/~falluga

The Allmighty/God/Allah/Fate/Karma has brought you here. This forum has it's own tone. If by some miracle you bring "new" news to the CC malcontents you will be embraced. If you are bringing the same old same old then...there's the door.


:-P

Thumper
09-26-2005, 12:34 AM
I tend to think that the illuminati is like the mossad, but even less capable. they have no standing armies. they can only use people via deception, and they probably number in the thousands at most.

truebeliever
09-26-2005, 01:59 AM
I tend to think that the illuminati is like the mossad, but even less capable. they have no standing armies. they can only use people via deception, and they probably number in the thousands at most.

I prefer to think of the Illuminati as a state of mind. Sure there are those who "know" the exact game plan and then there are those who believe themselves above God...they worship themselves and a "wavering" set of values that comes and goes with the wind. In the end they worship man over God. The State or a group of people over God.

In the end they worship power.

I meet them everywhere and at all times. Sometimes when I look in the mirror.

I have asked over 100 people this specific question...

"What do you think of living in compact high density cities where life is highly controlled but you want for basically nothing. A job is gauranteed. The Earths population is culled to 500million. Baby fur seals thrive and the environment "recovers". You are tracked and traced from birth to death. Their is NO individual freedom as such. Politics is replaced by 'wise elders' who are not elected as such. Religion is basically outlawed."

And without a word of a lie, apart from very small points, EVERY one of the people have replied that it's a good idea and inevitable.

Illuminati stooges one and all.

09-26-2005, 03:32 PM
Dear Billy,

This has been going on since the days of Sum-er.
In about seven thousand years who has resisted. The gang knows very well that the human race will talk and talk and debate and debate and do nothing but obey. They are not worried by any resistance that humans can offer.

09-26-2005, 03:38 PM
You, for once, are correct. Troll no Maskileum yes. Do you understand, we doubt it.

09-26-2005, 08:06 PM
Leviathan wrote:
You, for once, are correct. Troll no Maskileum yes. Do you understand, we doubt it.


No one understands you!

09-26-2005, 08:14 PM
BlueAngel wrote:

Leviathan wrote:
You, for once, are correct. Troll no Maskileum yes. Do you understand, we doubt it.


No one understands you!

If you do not understand, then why to you interject. We do not care for you or your attempt at thought

09-26-2005, 08:16 PM
GET LOST!

09-26-2005, 08:37 PM
BlueAngel wrote:
GET LOST!

YOU GO FIRST!!!!!!!!!!!

09-26-2005, 08:38 PM
Leviathan wrote:

BlueAngel wrote:
GET LOST!

YOU GO FIRST!!!!!!!!!!!

Excuse me, but you are useless here!

09-26-2005, 08:41 PM
BlueAngel wrote:

Leviathan wrote:

BlueAngel wrote:
GET LOST!

YOU GO FIRST!!!!!!!!!!!

Excuse me, but you are useless here!

You have run out of venom, should we allow you time to sharpen your fangs.

09-26-2005, 08:45 PM
!!

09-26-2005, 08:51 PM
BlueAngel wrote:
Allow me time???

Sorry, but I don't ask others for time!!

My time is my own!

Now you are babbling or you drooling to.

truebeliever
09-26-2005, 09:27 PM
BA you are just a big a troll as he is. Just cease responding. Very simple.

By complicity you are ruining the threads.

LEVIATHAN. I cant do anything to stop your trolling. I've reported you.

If you're TORCHLITHILL please give it up as you are not doing the forum any favours.

It's all gotton rather tiring.

Like watching 2 little kids in a sand pit.

Pathetic.

09-26-2005, 09:29 PM
Exactly, tb, I don't want to stoop down to his sandbox.

Sorry, I did!! and excuse me for helping to ruin the threads.

I will cease and desist!!

AND, I AM NOT A TROLL.

Take that back, NOW!!!

truebeliever
09-26-2005, 09:39 PM
Yes.

Now back to business...

I have spy work to attend to... 8-)

oneinitall
03-05-2010, 09:50 PM
Hi, I was just wondering about the basic common sense / logic behind having a website devoted to this sort of thing.

Okay, let's say there are all kinds of groups behind the scenes, messing with people, why would they allow this website to operate for very long? Why would people who control others through hypnosis, et al, allow people to group together and form some kind of resistance?

Also, if a website operates for very long, why are people supposed to trust it?

I'm sorry if these questions have already been asked and answered.

Thanks.

This would be a way for them to bring us out into the open. So they can get
at us.

Is unlikely that we would group together and form a resistance.

Venture at your own risk.

oneinitall
03-05-2010, 10:02 PM
A THOUGHT:

Looks like we are speaking of them, as some kind of culprit.
Interacting with people isn't guaranteed to come out, eye to eye.
Self-interests are biased. Lines are drawn wherever they be.
The world is either to continue or courses change.

Are we relly as innocent as our lesser end existence, shows us?

The chances are, if powers reverse, we would become perptrators.

Is unlikely that the world can be ran by "innocent babes".

Blaggard
04-09-2010, 03:12 PM
Dear Billy,

Just what could our Masters ACTUALLY do to stop us?

1) Lock us up for what?


They have power, they decide the Acts and they deceive the populous to believe that these Acts are law so what they are doing is right.

2) Ban the site...under what law?**

They make the Acts, the only real "law" is common law, which boils down to "don't cause harm to others who haven't agreed to it". If they can make the acts seem like laws to everyone, what's to stop them making a act to stop this forum?

3) Kill us all...hmmmm, some one might notice. Hard to trace us. "Practically" impossible.


This site may be a honey trap, intended to draw you into a false sense of security. Any slip up and you can be traced easily enough; whether registering with a real email or using your own internet connection.

**Actually you'd be all for a law would'nt you? And thats the point. "They" ARE seeking too ban "us". And baby **Fur Seal** huggers such as yourself will clap your hands as the Ministry Of Love, under the auspicious's of the free love for all U.N, march us to the gulags. You will even cheer! And that is why I HATE the stupid Left slightly more than the stupid Right.

**I have nothing against Baby Fur Seals personally as long as they keep their filthy agenda to themselves. Innocent looking? Not the ones I know.**

8-)
I dislike both in equal measures. Both want to limit your freedoms by thinking that they are right. The people should decide what is right for them; and whilst they follow common law, no-one should have the right to interfere with them.

Rant here

However there is the destruction of nature and the standardisation to think about to make sure that no abuse is realistically possible. That requires socialist standards agency's to enforce things on businesses and the people within that business. However it's ran by humans, people who should be allowed to do what they want.
How can people say "businesses and people are not allowed to do this because we all agree in these standards" when those who would ignore the standards don't agree. Hope for the market to kill them? "They are not standardised, we shouldn't buy their products"; wrong, without any law enforcement they can just pretend they are standardised, which means that the standards agencies will have to work a hell of a lot to call these businesses out. Even then the business can easily change and promote itself as standard.

Law and order is required to keep us advancing as a species, but whilst the belief that we are "free" is a noble thing, if it were real things would go cock up quickly indeed.

Do our leaders know this? Do they spin this tapestry for our own benefit or because they want to line their own pockets? Is there a mixture of both? Do you advance us and line your pockets, using the advancement as a investment? Would our leaders expect compensation for their leadership? What if that leadership isn't wanted?

I've been thinking that the only way to have a free society would be to have a fascist leader; a benevolent fascist. The whole world under one banner, ignoring individuality but advancing and knowing more and more. Is freedom the cost of a higher quality of life?

Is the sacrifice of freedom for safety worth it? The knowledge that you have no choice in what you do because at least this way you'll be happy with a family, working for them and fulfilling the basic needs of humanity.

To allot of people the choice is clear, give up total freedom for the safety and happiness that bowing down provides. The quick easy path that your family has done for generations and there is nothing else you know.

Control brings happiness and safety at the extent of personal freedoms, whilst total freedom brings the ability to abuse and there's no promise of happiness.

The two can never mix because once there is a level of control, people will believe that what they are told is for their own good.