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Barbara
09-23-2005, 03:38 PM
Before you descend on me and attempt to rend me asunder, let me state that Rev. Jessie Lee Peterson is a black man. The picture didn't print.

He is fighting for the soul of his city and his race. Save your ire and invectives for those who deserve them.
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Moral poverty cost blacks
in New Orleans

Rev. Jessie Lee Peterson

Posted: September 21, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

Say a hurricane is about to destroy the city you live in. Two questions:


What would you do?

What would you do if you were black?


Sadly, the two questions don't have the same answer.

To the first: Most of us would take our families out of that city quickly to protect them from danger. Then, able-bodied men would return to help others in need, as wives and others cared for children, elderly, infirm and the like.

For better or worse, Hurricane Katrina has told us the answer to the second question. If you're black and a hurricane is about to destroy your city, then you'll probably wait for the government to save you.

This was not always the case. Prior to 40 years ago, such a pathetic performance by the black community in a time of crisis would have been inconceivable. The first response would have come from black men. They would take care of their families, bring them to safety, and then help the rest of the community. Then local government would come in.

No longer. When 75 percent of New Orleans residents had left the city, it was primarily immoral, welfare-pampered blacks that stayed behind and waited for the government to bail them out. This, as we know, did not turn out good results.

Enter Jesse Jackson and Louis Farrakhan. Jackson and Farrakhan laid blame on "racist" President Bush. Farrakhan actually proposed the idea that the government blew up a levee so as to kill blacks and save whites. The two demanded massive governmental spending to rebuild New Orleans, above and beyond the federal government's proposed $60 billion. Not only that, these two were positioning themselves as the gatekeepers to supervise the dispersion of funds. Perfect: Two of the most dishonest elite blacks in America, "overseeing" billions of dollars. I wonder where that money will end up.

Of course, if these two were really serious about laying blame on government, they should blame the local one. Responsibility to perform – legally and practically – fell first on the mayor of New Orleans. We are now all familiar with Mayor Ray Nagin – the black Democrat who likes to yell at President Bush for failing to do Nagin's job. The facts, unfortunately, do not support Nagin's wailing. As the Washington Times puts it, "recent reports show [Nagin] failed to follow through on his own city's emergency-response plan, which acknowledged that thousands of the city's poorest residents would have no way to evacuate the city."

One wonders how there was "no way" for these people to evacuate the city. We have photographic evidence telling us otherwise. You've probably seen it by now – the photo showing 200 parked school buses, unused and underwater. How much planning does it require to put people on a bus and leave town, Mayor Nagin?

Instead of doing the obvious, Mayor Nagin (with no positive contribution from Democratic Gov. Kathleen Blanco, the other major leader vested with responsibility to address the hurricane disaster) loaded remaining New Orleans residents into the Superdome and the city's convention center. We know how that plan turned out.

About five years ago, in a debate before the National Association of Black Journalists, I stated that if whites were to just leave the United States and let blacks run the country, they would turn America into a ghetto within 10 years. The audience, shall we say, disagreed with me strongly. Now I have to disagree with me. I gave blacks too much credit. It took a mere three days for blacks to turn the Superdome and the convention center into ghettos, rampant with theft, rape and murder.


President Bush is not to blame for the rampant immorality of blacks. Had New Orleans' black community taken action, most would have been out of harm's way. But most were too lazy, immoral and trifling to do anything productive for themselves.

All Americans must tell blacks this truth. It was blacks' moral poverty – not their material poverty – that cost them dearly in New Orleans. Farrakhan, Jackson, and other race hustlers are to be repudiated – they will only perpetuate this problem by stirring up hatred and applauding moral corruption. New Orleans, to the extent it is to be rebuilt, should be remade into a dependency-free, morally strong city where corruption is opposed and success is applauded. Blacks are obligated to help themselves and not depend on the government to care for them. We are all obligated to tell them so.


The Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson is founder and president of BOND, the Brotherhood Organization of A New Destiny, and author of "Scam: How the Black Leadership Exploits Black America."

Thumper
09-23-2005, 06:32 PM
How long did it take for Zimbabwe to go back to pre-colonial status again?

Nexuseuss
09-23-2005, 06:54 PM
You simple minded phobes.

Black or white, the government is as inept and feeble as your reasons for racism.


I hope you die a horrible death, if you truly believe that discriminatory bullshit.

You'd deserve far more.

freeman
09-23-2005, 08:26 PM
How much planning does it require to put people on a bus and leave town, Mayor Nagin?

A lot when only a few hours after you issue voluntary evacuation orders, both Greyhound and Amtrak shut down their schedules competely and abandon the city. Here is an actual timeline of the events of Hurricane Katrina which emphasizes that point as well as the apathy and incompetence of the federal government:

The Beginnings of Hurricane Katrina:

Hurricane Katrina hit Florida late Thursday, August 25th, as a Category 1 hurricane. 9 people were killed. The storm then moved into the Gulf of Mexico, where it gained momentum and power. Below is a timeline of events over the next few days as the Bush administration ignored one of the biggest natural disasters ever to strike the United States.

Saturday, August 27th

Forecasters are predicting that Hurricane Katrina will hit Louisiana and Mississipi early Monday – and that it probably would be a Category 3 or 4 storm. Gulf Coast communities began to ask their residents to evacuate. Meteorologist warn that Katrina has the potential to be a major hurricane.

Bush was at his vacation home in Crawford Texas – avoiding Cindy Sheehan and the dueling protests outside his ranch and delivered his weekly radio address – asking for patience in Iraq – and saying that it will take more time for U.S. troops to complete their work in Iraq.

5pm – Mayor Ray Nagin called for a voluntary evacuation of the city. Greyhound & Amtrak stop service in New Orleans late Saturday Night.

Sunday, August 28th

At 11am - Mayor Ray Nagin orders mandatory evacuation of New Orleans. Experts predict that Hurricane Katrina will hit the city with all the force and power of a Category 5 storm – and that 60-80% of the city’s homes will be destroyed.

"All indications are that this is absolutely worst-case scenario," Ivor van Heerden, deputy director of the Louisiana State University Hurricane Center, said Sunday afternoon.

Bush is still on vacation at his Crawford ranch. He holds a press conference in a helicopter hanger at his Crawford Texas Ranch – taking a moment to urge Gulf Coast residents to evacuate before hailing the Iraqi draft constitution an inspiring success.

Governors of Louisiana and Mississippi request additional security forces from the federal government.

Monday, August 29th

Katrina hit land at 6:10am.

The storm hammered the Gulf Coast with huge waves and tree-bending winds. Exploding transformers lit up the predawn sky in Mobile, Ala., while tree limbs littered roads and a blinding rain whipped up sand on the deserted beach of Gulfport, Miss.

Katrina's fury also was felt at the Louisiana Superdome, which became the shelter of last resort for the area's poor, homeless and frail.

Electrical power at the Superdome failed at 5:02 a.m., but the backup power runs only reduced lighting and cannot run the air conditioning.

Entire neighborhoods were submerged up to the roofs. Numerous people had to be rescued from rooftops and attics as the floodwaters rose higher and higher.

President Bush hits the road to promote prescription-drug plan to. His first stop is Arizona, where he eats birthday cake with Senator John McCain and talks to senior citizens in Phoenix at a golf resort.

In late afternoon, there are early reports of broken levees. The National Weather Service reported that a levee broke on the Industrial Canal near the St. Bernard-Orleans parish line.

President Bush travels to Southern California to talk to more seniors about changes to Medicare. He also plays golf. He spends the evening in San Diego to prepare for a Tuesday speech commemorating the 60th Anniversary of the end of World War Two.

Tuesday, August 30th

Breaches in at least two levees allowed water from Lake Pontchartrain to inundate sections of New Orleans. Officials planned to use helicopters to drop 3,000-pound sandbags into the breach. Those helicopters were diverted to rescue missions.

An estimated 80 percent of New Orleans was under water, up to 20 feet deep in places, with miles and miles of homes swamped.

Unknown number of deaths.

Thousands remained in New Orleans Superdome, where storm ripped two holes in the vast roof; authorities forbid them to leave.

With a San Diego naval base and the USS Ronald Regan as a backdrop , the president made a speech to celebrate the anniversary of V-J day two weeks after the actual Aug. 14, 1945 anniversary. He compared WWII to Iraq and gave a fresh reason for American troops to continue fighting: protection of the Iraq's vast oil fields, which he said would otherwise fall under the control of terrorists. He spends 90 seconds of a 40 minute speech on Hurricane Katrina.

New Orleans Mayor, former Mayor, and Louisiana’s governor make continued appeals for Federal Aid.

Afterwards, President Bush plays a guitar presented to him by Country Singer Mark Wills, backstage following his visit to Naval Base Coronado, Tuesday, Aug. 30, 2005. He then flies back to his vacation home in Crawford.

Wednesday August 31st

New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin says Hurricane Katrina probably killed thousands of people - an estimate that, if accurate, would make the storm the nation's deadliest natural disaster since at least the 1906 San Francisco earthquake.

Bodies are starting to pile up at the morgue in Mississippi's Harrison County, with 40 corpses having been brought there already. Authorities have said the final death toll in the county will end up well above 100.

Health and Human Services Department declares a public health emergency, sends medical supplies, hospital beds and public health officers.

Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco asks the White House to send more people to help with evacuations and rescues, thereby freeing up National Guardsmen to stop out-of-control looters.

President George W. Bush and his top advisers held a video conference on the Gulf Coast disaster. Most of the staff was still on vacation and away from Washington. Afterwards he flew back to Washington to coordinate the federal response

Bush cut short his working vacation in Texas by two days. Vice President Dick Cheney was still on vacation in Wyoming. White House chief of staff Andy Card was still in Maine

As Bush returns to Washington he does a flyover of devastated areas on Air Force One.

The President makes a recess appointment. RNC sends a desperate appeal to cut the estate tax. Hastert says it’s a bad idea to rebuild New Orleans.

More than 20 countries offer aid.

That evening Condi Rice goes to see Spamalot.

Thursday, September 1st

In the face of report after report that the levees were known to be vulnerable – Bush does an interview on Good Morning America and tells Diane Sawyer that no one expected the levees to break.

Looting, carjacking and other violence spread in the Gulf Coast region, with even rescuers being attacked.

The New Orleans mayor estimated the death toll in his city to be in the hundreds is not thousands. He pleaded for buses and supplies for survivors, saying, "This is a desperate SOS."

Half a day after the military began evacuating the Superdome, the arena held 10,000 more people than it did at dawn. Evacuees thinking it's the best place to get a ride out of town poured into the Superdome and swelled the crowd to about 30,000.

Frustration grew among the thousands still awaiting help at the New Orleans Convention Center, where bodies lie among the living. Earlier, helicopter transfers of the sick and injured at the Superdome were suspended amid security concerns.

Bush discusses relief efforts with Diane Sawyer – plans to tour area.

1pm - Condi Rice goes Shopping for Shoes on 5th Ave.

Dick Cheney is still on vacation.

By the end of the day, approximately 7400 National Guard troops were to be in Louisiana, up from 4700 that morning.

The Senate and House convenes to issue $10 billion aid package.

Dennis Hastert goes to a fundraiser in Indiana.

So no matter how hard the author of this article may try, it is impossible to deflect all of the blame away from the federal government and Bush administration with his self-hating "welfare-pampered blacks" rationale.
And as I explained previously on a thread similar to this one, the creation of the welfare society was one of the most devious schemes every perpetrated by the global elites, to serve their wide-ranging agendas encompassing everything from racial conflict to drug-running. I do not believe that the welfare state was ever the first choice of the black community. It was something imposed upon them as a secondary form of slavery.

Barbara
09-23-2005, 09:38 PM
Freeman, yours is a very interesting post and an accurate recap of the timeline of Katrina and the local/State/Federal fowlups.

I wonder how many times Dr. M has been called a "self-hating jew" for holding up a mirror on things that are wrong and need to be changed for the good of the jews.

The Welfare/Warfare State is an abomination, that is a fact. Perhaps the Reverend is trying to light a candle rather than just cursing the darkness.

freeman
09-23-2005, 10:09 PM
Perhaps the Reverend is trying to light a candle rather than just cursing the darkness.

Maybe, but he's still holding it a little too close to the backsides of the black community, IMO.
Is he trying to produce illumination or blisters?

09-23-2005, 10:13 PM
Here we go, pull up a chair and pop some popcorn.

truebeliever
09-23-2005, 11:25 PM
How long did it take for Zimbabwe to go back to pre-colonial status again?

About ten years as the "decent" British establishment fobbed off Mugabe and the genuine desire for blacks to have some land to farm.

Go here for a CC thread on the topic. (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=1557&forum=8&post_id=12678&PHPSESSID=d328aa15edb6b66277fbee6a4a92d26a#forumpo st12678)

If there's one thing that REALLY pisses me off is when "white men" stand back, "tisk, tisking" the darkies while they have a direct hand in the calamity.

But yes, black America, black Africa and black Australia must sooner or later realise only THEY can lift themselves up from the shit and take ultimate responsability for their plight. That might also include acknowledging the "white mans" hand which more often is not offering a helping hand, but a fist.

As Lauren Van Der Post (a man dedicated to Africa) often said..."a man exposes himself in Durban and people cry 'the system, the system' but what of personal responsability?"

What did Ghandi say about Western Civilization? "It might be a good idea".

Barbara
09-23-2005, 11:26 PM
Whatever works.

truebeliever
09-23-2005, 11:55 PM
I was'nt nescessarily disagreeing.

I think the man in your post raises some valid points that apply for all of us.

Just have a gander at black culture...gangs, drugs, sport, music.

That'll keep ya marginalised.

The stupid fools.

Veritas
09-25-2005, 07:07 AM
I think it as a fact that most of the people left in New Orleans were counting on government support for help after the Hurricane and flood. Its the purpose of welfare statism to create a underclass to "help," otherwise there would be no need for the system at all.

The fact that most of the people left behind were black is not nearly as interesting as the probability that they were at least 90% Democrats.

No matter what caused the hurricane it was a flood that did the most damage.
It was levies breaking that caused the flood.
It was Environmentalists like the Sierra Club that blocked the Army Corps of Engineers from fixing the levies.

These people care more for alligators and mosquitos than human beings and 1000s of dead bodies are the proof.

The main proof of Liberal guilt for me is how they started blaming anyone and everyone for the problem but themselves.

The conditions of New Orleans right now isn't the fault of incompetent Government as much as it is the fault of a degenerate philosophy that asks human beings to sacrifice themselves to anything they can but do it fast and hard because the mothership is leaving soon for planet Hegel and there might not be enough koolaid for everyone.

freeman
09-25-2005, 09:01 AM
These people care more for alligators and mosquitos than human beings and 1000s of dead bodies are the proof.

Boy, is that ever true. If one has any doubts about the ulterior agenda of special interest groups, just take a close look at the militant environmental lobby. Everything they have done is counterproductive to the human race, and the only thing they have succeeded in accomplishing is to establish a whole new level of eco-bureaucracy that oppresses the little people from yet another perspective.

Barbara
09-25-2005, 10:54 AM
Thank you Veritas, your cool, level-headed, logical and well thought out post was most welcome.

I have a problem with knee-jerk reactions like Lex's.

The black people I grew up with would have thanked him politely for his response on their behalf and then told him they could very well speak for themselves.

Wouldn't be afraid to bet that the Reverend who wrote the article I posted had parents like that. They would have considered those who felt it necessary to champion THEIR cause the racists.

Having been born in the deep South on a farm, with black neighbors down the road as well as white, my playmates were black and white. At least once a month when it was warm we'd have Sunday dinner (lunch to you Yankees) spread on a big old long board table under a huge oak tree in the front yard and the neighbors brought whatever they wanted to add to the mix. My all-time favorite was sweet potato pie so my black "Aunt" Annie made sure that there was at least one sweet potato pie on that table and that I got the first piece. I loved her with all my heart; her lap was my first choice for a place to sit when I was small. She had more love in her than anyone I've ever known and she lavished it on her family and all those lucky enough to call her friend. When she laughed I'd have sworn it started at her toes.

Her daughter, 3 months my senior and never let me forget it, would tease me and say, "Come here little girl and let me brush your hair." When I was young my hair was white as cotton and fine as cat hair. She was fascinated by it; her favorite pastime was brushing, braiding and sticking flowers into her finished product. I endured it because it make her happy. We drew and colored together, played with our paper dolls, played Hide and Seek and Tag, and shared a mutual animosity for our younger brothers who were always tearing up our playhouses of mud and broomstraw.

She knew my cousins, I knew her cousins. We liked each other best of all but we all played together.

I realize this is probably Greek to those of you whose knowledge is limited to casual acquaintance or acculturation. It may not fit your idea of how things were for some, maybe not all, of us who lived it. You have my deepest sympathy.

Aunt Annie would have thrown the likes of Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton out of her house with an epitath of "black trash," her standards were high and her children lived up to them. She could be as formidable as Mother Nature and you knew not to mess with Mother Nature.

When we supply excuses for why blacks fail or jump to their defense too quickly when no offense is intended, aren't we being racist? I was brought up to think that if you expected nothing from someone, that was usually what you got.

When whites fail, they fail. Nobody hesitates to say that they were lazy or drunks or dopeheads or "shiftless," whatever. We seem to feel obliged to pronounce racism as the first and foremost reason why blacks fail. It sets up a straw man for them to fight against when their focus and energies should be elsewhere. It also provides a ready excuse not to try as hard.

If you look hard enough for something, you will find it, even if you have to create it.

09-25-2005, 07:39 PM
First of all, the writer states that 40 years ago black men would have taken their families to safety and then gone back to take care of the sick, elderly, etc.

Good point!

What has happened to the African community within 40 years that has changed their morals and competence so drastically?

Their dependence on the government; created by the government in order to suppress and take away their power.

freeman
09-25-2005, 08:35 PM
When whites fail, they fail. Nobody hesitates to say that they were lazy or drunks or dopeheads or "shiftless," whatever. We seem to feel obliged to pronounce racism as the first and foremost reason why blacks fail. It sets up a straw man for them to fight against when their focus and energies should be elsewhere. It also provides a ready excuse not to try as hard.

As intended, it creates another Hegelian conundrum for us to argue about, to wit: If someone is being bullied and they eventually knuckle under, do you blame the bully or the victim?
All I know is that I wouldn't want to be a black person in America...especially an inner city black resident.
...then again, I wouldn't want to be me, either, if I had a choice. :-?

Barbara
09-26-2005, 05:56 PM
Freeman, back up a little and think about this. What doesn't kill us makes us stronger. Every "coin" has two sides. If I grant you that, OK, to a certain extent, because of the actions of a great many of their race, a black youth might feel "bullied." So did the Irish, as a for instance, having not one thing to do with race.

Then perhaps you will grant me that, thanks to Uncle Sugar in DC, there are innumerable laws on the books that grant special favors to those same black youths.

Revenge is sweet, and the best revenge is success.
If I were a young black inner city youth today, male or female, the first thing I would do is get the hell out of that inner city with its crime and drugs and avail myself of one of the "set-asides" in a good college in some midwestern town.

If you are black, not only is your full tuition paid but also your books and lab fees, ANY and ALL expenses incurred in securing your degree; even clothing and food are covered. WHAT A DEAL!
All it takes is getting off one's duff and ACTING.

Definition of power: The ability to act.

After buckling down and getting one degree, I would go on and get my Masters. The ride is free, why not go for a Ph.D.?

After graduation, put in resumes with as many of the Fortune 400 companies as you like. You will be snapped up so quickly it will make your head swim!

Freeman, I am no smarter than the average bear, as Yogi didn't say, but if I can figure this out others can also.

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. You can have all the programs in the world but you can't make people help themselves by taking advantage of them.

Are you sure you wouldn't like to be an inner city youth today?

freeman
09-26-2005, 06:50 PM
Are you sure you wouldn't like to be an inner city youth today?

No, sorry. I still don't believe that it's all as simple as an episode of the Larry Elder show.
As I've been trying to say , it's all relative.
The odds of me being an inner city youth who can take advantage of the free educational opportunities that you cite are about the same as finding a pig who can fly. The elites wouldn't make these opportunities available under any other scenario. They know that only a small minority of drug and gang-ravaged inner city youth will take advantage of these opportunities, just enough to stick out like a sore thumb in Corporate American and drive the white majority green with envy.
Such is the result of acculturation, NWO-style. They attempt and succeed to instill "cultural shockwaves" throughout the socioecomonic strata in order to perpetuate the conflict that leads to their Hegelian resolutions.
Are blacks weak and stupid for not seeing through this and countering by adopting the behavior you describe? Of course, but this is exactly why the system keeps spoonfeeding them leaders like Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton. Any leader who demonstrates real character and integrity and tries to shift the paradigm is quickly and forcefully eliminated -- look at Malcolm X and Stokely Carmicahel as examples.
To me this argument isn't a lot different than asking why white people keep using those worthless Federal Reserve notes instead of opting out of the central banksters' rigged currency system all toghether; or why we even keep voting or participating at all in that great sham known as Western democracy; or why there's always another shallow, materialistic sycophant willing to throw on a hood and noose and sell his soul to Freemasonry. It's not just black people who can't be forced to drink from the fount of enlightenment. We're all equally guilty of being stupid, irresponsible and utterly intractable.
That's what makes this conpsiracy work. It seeks the lowest common denominators of human behavior and exploits them relentlessly.