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Bernard of Clairveaux
05-06-2011, 06:18 PM
Hi everyone,

I just posted a new documentary in the documentary section. It will be of interest to anyone raised Catholic who has wondered what the hek happened to their Church. The answer is that the Catholic Church has been taken over just like every other institution.

Until now however nobody has made a presentation on the exact time and date of the takeover, which happened on October 26, 1958 at 6pm.

I hope some of you will find it helpful
BofC

BlueAngel
05-06-2011, 08:59 PM
Hi everyone,

I just posted a new documentary in the documentary section. It will be of interest to anyone raised Catholic who has wondered what the hek happened to their Church. The answer is that the Catholic Church has been taken over just like every other institution.

Until now however nobody has made a presentation on the exact time and date of the takeover, which happened on October 26, 1958 at 6pm.

I hope some of you will find it helpful
BofC

The Catholic church wasn't taken over on October 26, 1958.

The Catholic church is what it is and has always been that way.

Chaser Tiponi
05-06-2011, 09:48 PM
The Catholic church wasn't taken over on October 26, 1958.

The Catholic church is what it is and has always been that way.

Fer sure!

I will say this though. The only difference between now and long ago is they started getting caught on the crap. This gives the false impression of having changed for the worst.

Little boy's? Ughhh......

BlueAngel
05-06-2011, 10:02 PM
Fer sure!

I will say this though. The only difference between now and long ago is they started getting caught on the crap. This gives the false impression of having changed for the worst.

Little boy's? Ughhh......

Oh, yes.

The Catholic Church.

Just the place I want to take my sons.

A place ridden with homosexual pedophiles.

Clairveaux
05-07-2011, 06:29 AM
Well if you care to watch the movie you'll see that the place has been infiltrated by.. yes, sodomites, among others, masons, mafia, communists, etc

It's always been infiltrated to a degree but now the place is Catholic in name only.

You may want to note that American forces have killed between 500,000 and 1,000,000 people in Iraq. Does this mean America is evil? Does it mean the founding fathers were evil or wrong? Does it mean your average American is a jerk?

Of course not, and my point is the same thing that has happened to America has happened to the Catholic Church. They both have been taken over.

Chaser Tiponi
05-08-2011, 03:47 PM
Well if you care to watch the movie you'll see that the place has been infiltrated by.. yes, sodomites, among others, masons, mafia, communists, etc

It's always been infiltrated to a degree but now the place is Catholic in name only.

You may want to note that American forces have killed between 500,000 and 1,000,000 people in Iraq. Does this mean America is evil? Does it mean the founding fathers were evil or wrong? Does it mean your average American is a jerk?

Of course not, and my point is the same thing that has happened to America has happened to the Catholic Church. They both have been taken over.

Catholicism is what it has always been. An insult to the intelligence of normal thinking human beings. When it was created (and it's literature produced ) people were for the most part uneducated and illiterate.

As people have educated their children and people began to see the contradictions in their preaching they (the Catholic church) have changed their stance in many way's. This has gone on through out history.

Christianity IMHO was created to enslave the poor with out the use of physical force. A sort of mind F*ck if you will. And it worked until modern times.

Protestants read all their nonsense (disagreed) and formed more nonsense and on and on it goes.

Clairveaux
05-08-2011, 10:37 PM
Catholicism is what it has always been. An insult to the intelligence of normal thinking human beings. When it was created (and it's literature produced ) people were for the most part uneducated and illiterate.

As people have educated their children and people began to see the contradictions in their preaching they (the Catholic church) have changed their stance in many way's. This has gone on through out history.

Christianity IMHO was created to enslave the poor with out the use of physical force. A sort of mind F*ck if you will. And it worked until modern times.

Protestants read all their nonsense (disagreed) and formed more nonsense and on and on it goes.

Some of the most brilliant people in history were Catholic. Shakespeare to name one. Thomas Aquinas to name another. Until 1970 there were more doctorates written on the writings of St. Thoma Aquinas than any other person. Also, "modern people" are so dumbed down and brainwashed they wouldn't know the truth if it hit them between the eyes.

What you say about Catholicism being created to enslave the poor is right of Karl Marx's communist manifesto.

Chaser Tiponi
05-09-2011, 01:49 AM
Some of the most brilliant people in history were Catholic. Shakespeare to name one. Thomas Aquinas to name another. Until 1970 there were more doctorates written on the writings of St. Thoma Aquinas than any other person. Also, "modern people" are so dumbed down and brainwashed they wouldn't know the truth if it hit them between the eyes.

What you say about Catholicism being created to enslave the poor is right of Karl Marx's communist manifesto.

PROVE IT!!!!!

Clairveaux
05-09-2011, 07:32 AM
Well, actually it's not right out of the communist manifesto but it is right out of Marx's writings ie "religion is the opiate of the masses" the book it appeared in was Marx's Critique of Hegel's Philosophy of the Right.

Chaser Tiponi
05-09-2011, 12:47 PM
""modern people" are so dumbed down and brainwashed they wouldn't know the truth if it hit them between the eyes."



The thing about that is that people are starting to wake up. The internet is available to most any one these day's and has exposed many people to the truth.

It is no longer whatever the pastor says goes. 10 years ago many of us would have to spend hours in libraries to get info we can get now in just a few minutes (It's easier and more convenient for people to find time to research and still live a busy lifestyle).

Your right, there is a large following of brainwashed sheeples still out there. But more and more people are coming around to some real wake up calls on it all.

The way I see it is there is a big difference between seeing the truth and seeing past a lie that existed all along.

Clairveaux
05-09-2011, 06:32 PM
Right, and that's very encouraging. But there is a crowd (I'm thinking of the people who made zeitgeist) who are spreading a lot of falsehoods about religion. Their section on Jesus and Mary coming from Pagan religions is absolutely false.

I also thought Catholcism was just a big scam, and its easy to make it look like that, but on further analysis a different picture emerges.

Let me mention a few things that made me question my earlier beliefs.

First, the fact that these groups, freemasons, the illuminati, etc, are in fact devil worshipers. Albert Pike wrote about it in Morals and Dogma, he says that after the 30th degree, masons find out that the God they have been referring to is Lucifer.
Doctor Stan Monteith does an excellent job of breaking it down
YouTube - brotherhood of darkness

If you've seen Alex Jones break into Bohemian grove and film all these poerful politicians participating in a mock sacrifice in the middle of the night it further supports this.

Also, the 2 guys that did the Columbine massacre were both part of a satanic cult, one of the kids drew a picture of Satan controlling him while he shot up the school, the night before the shootings. He also told one of the girls to deny Jesus Christ, and when she said no he shot her. None of this was made known in the media, but William h. Kennedy covers it thoroughly in his work. The son of Sam killings also had a satanic element, which was kept from the public.

Why are the Satanic connections of these stories being kept from the public? Because if the public knew about these things they realize that there we are in a spiritual battle.

And finally I'll mention exorcisms. There are tens of thousands of documented cases of people possessed by demons. The symptoms are universally recognized as well as the formula for expelling the demon.

Best selling author Fr. Malachi Martin did an excellent interview on his experience doing exorcisms for those interested.
YouTube - Malachi Martin - Kingdom of Darkness Pt1

BlueAngel
05-09-2011, 09:07 PM
The Catholic Church is a fraud and, so, too, is the POPE.

They are ridden with pedophiles and I highly doubt that their GOD or any GOD approves of priests within their church sexually abusing little boys.

Please, get this thread about Catholics out of here.

What a disgrace.

Thanks,
BA

Clairveaux
05-09-2011, 11:23 PM
Wow, don't respond to any of my points, just ask for the removal of the thread.

You'll learn a lot that way.

Chaser Tiponi
05-10-2011, 02:14 AM
Wow, don't respond to any of my points, just ask for the removal of the thread.

You'll learn a lot that way.

Have you read any thing besides this thread! It comes to the point of rhetorical. I have already argued every point in the past. Except the Columbine fiasco you mentioned.

Do you really want me to disect that?

OK then! Here we go! You expect "ME" to buy your They hid what some girl said approach from the public? Yes that makes all kinds of sense. You claim some nut job asked her to not accept Jesus ( pardon my wording as I'm to lazy to check the exact quote but that is pretty much it!).

The Columbine slayers were Nuts! You need to face that! They were not Devil worshipers they were looney tunes. They belonged in straight jackets! And even if this girl stood up for Jesus (of course none of this can be proven) so what? How does this destruct my previous arguments exactly? How does what this "girl" said prove anything about Catholicism? It clearly does not! In fact if anything it proves the looney tunes who buy into it are nuttier then they should admit!

Excorcism? Please! Again, nut cakes! There is no proof whatsoever that both sides of that practice are not totally lost in mental challenges built to last a lifetime! They are goofy nut balls on both sides of that court.

Freemasons only escaped the tyranny of your humble Christians. Christianity was created as a tool to enslave the illiterate. How many times must I say this? Christians accuse the Free Masons of being Devil worshipers when in fact they only wished to escape the tyranny of the "Christian" slave drivers. It's well documented that a requirement of modern Masons is to believe in a Higher power. Nowhere other then in your mind is there any requirement to worship the Devil!

And if some political figure choose to do a satanic ritual (of witch I have never heard and after hearing your arguments up to this point would take with little regaurd) how does "that" prove anything about Catholicism? Again it has nothing to do with what you are so intent on proving and as far as I can tell has no bearing on this discussion.

The illuminati and Blah bhlah blah. On and on the Catholics go but every single stupid lie can be defeated. Why? Because it's all a bunch of BS.

I will not be here to continue this debate but I promise you this. I could get around any crap the Catholics can throw out with little to no thinking. And the protestants are even easier as that is an even more perverted version of what Catholics teach.

And FYI. Don't think you won the debate because people get bored of re explaining the same stupid crap repeatedly in the hopes your simple mind can register on it. The reason they don't respond is because (after already reenforcing it) they consider the repetitive line of crap rhetorical and not worth their effort.

It's NOT because you have proven a point. Columbine! Please!

Clairveaux
05-10-2011, 05:40 AM
So you've made up your mind.

And Blue Angel, well, don't think I'm going to convince her of anything.

I guess if there are no other posters we can call it a day on this one.

Apothecary
07-14-2011, 06:59 PM
I know this discussion has not proceeded for a couple months but, I would like to address some of this anyways. I have friends all over not like it means anything to anyone here but, one is a monk another is a priest, both are Catholic. According to both of them 3/4 of the ministry doesn't have a clue about how Catholic traditions or laws apply. 75% of the ministry talks out their arse. Why am I posting this? Because if there are only 75% making 25% look bad it's really something to consider, most religions cannot even have 25% who give effort to their faith. No, I don't like pedophiles nor what was done with Palestine, nor the inquisition, nor the suffering Plato suffered. Just throwing out there to generalize people based on an affiliation is a sure fire way to miss the truths that are out there. People are people, they are animals, and they will do things that are abominations in the name of anything. Keep an eye on the puppetmasters for sure, but one institution isn't to blame for the worlds problems it's the mass of stupidity and ignorance exercised by a majority of the worlds population. Just my 2 cents that probably doesn't matter but, there ya go.

kerry
08-11-2011, 07:07 PM
....sigh...