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theconspiracist
05-07-2011, 03:03 AM
http://cdn.hotstockmarket.com/f/f5/f5a18c2d_obama_birth_certificate.jpg

This is reputed to be Obama’s long-form COLB (Certificate Of Live Birth)—identical in format to the forgery released by the White House.
It is dated August 4, 1961, and is signed by Obama’s grandmother. It says he was born in Kenya, Africa.
It's IDENTICAL to the one submitted by the White House but NOTICE THE SIGNATURES AND THE FATHERS "RACE"...NEGRO-AFRICAN


- Jim O'Neill Sunday, May 1, 2011
I believe THIS document is legitimate—it would certainly explain a great deal that has been going on.
This may indeed turn out to be the “smoking gun” that the “birthers” have felt existed all along.
Obama was born in Africa, but his grandmother registered him with a COLB in Hawaii

Obama’s Birth Certificate?
Birthers beware: Hawaii may start ignoring your repeated requests for proof that President Barack Obama was born here.

As the state continues to receive e-mails seeking Obama’s birth certificate, the state House Judiciary Committee heard a bill Tuesday permitting government officials to ignore people who won’t give up.

“Sometimes we may be dealing with a cohort of people who believe lack of evidence is evidence of a conspiracy,” said Lorrin Kim, chief of the Hawaii Department of Health’s Office of Planning, Policy and Program Development.
So-called “birthers” claim Obama is ineligible to be president because, they argue, he was actually born outside the United States, and therefore doesn’t meet a constitutional requirement for being president.

I believe that this document is legitimate—it would certainly explain a great deal that has been going on. This may indeed turn out to be the “smoking gun” that the “birthers” have felt existed all along. Obama was born in Africa, but his grandmother registered him with a COLB in Hawaii.

When a COLB such as the one that the “Aloha Reporter” shows was issued, it would have automatically triggered birth announcements in the two Hawaiian newspapers in which blurbs about Obama’s birth are said to have appeared (both papers were in the same building). The fact that he was born in Africa, and not the United States, would no doubt explain Obama wanting to keep his birth records hidden all this time.

So—what’s to be done? The Declaration of Independence tells “we the people” that “when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce [us] under absolute despotism, it is [our] right, it is [our] duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for [our] future security.

“Our right and our duty….” Americans were apparently made of sterner, stronger stuff in those days. These days “we the people” meekly submit as the chains are laid upon us; the US military treats their oath to defend the Constitution as an irrelevant joke, and the US Congress aids and abets in America’s destruction. Or am I wrong? I sure hope so, but I have grave doubts.

A scary story indeed.

Chaser Tiponi
05-07-2011, 02:16 PM
The item above mentions Wichita Kansas where the mothers name is. That location is her birthplace. So even if she had traveled to Kenya on a temporary visa or whatever and spit the little bastard out there he would still be a citizen of the US. (I think that's accurate). To my knowledge US woman who leave the US temporarily and have a baby have an American baby right? Even though it would appear that from the document above the kid was born actually in Honolulu. (It's kinda blurry to read so correct me if I'm wrong).

Also why would the state (Hawaii) issue a birth certificate to the grandmother of a child born in Kenya? It's not a 7-11. And it's been my experience that the states take identification and proof very seriously. They will issue documents based on facts, not just hand out birth certificates to any one who asks for one.

Immigration is easy enough in the US but it's not THAT easy. :)

Chaser Tiponi
05-07-2011, 02:42 PM
Don't take me wrong, I'm NOT disputing that the White house would forge a document and make it public. You can't believe anything the little weasle says. So that would not surprise me in the least.

But even if the above document is the real McCoy it still appears that his citizenship is valid. Add to that I can't help but see it as ridiculous to be stirring this pot now 3 years into his presidency. If people felt it was an issue they should have put it on the table prior to his election. It's just another example of uninformed Americans voting for someone they know nothing about.

He should NOT have been elected any way because he is an advocate of Socialism ( His Obama Care plan proves that, and was made clear prior to his election). But Americans just HAD TO HAVE the 1st black president.

I'll take a black pres any day. As long as he's not a trooper of socialism or communism.

theconspiracist
05-07-2011, 05:56 PM
Don't take me wrong, I'm NOT disputing that the White house would forge a document and make it public. You can't believe anything the little weasle says. So that would not surprise me in the least.

But even if the above document is the real McCoy it still appears that his citizenship is valid. Add to that I can't help but see it as ridiculous to be stirring this pot now 3 years into his presidency. If people felt it was an issue they should have put it on the table prior to his election. It's just another example of uninformed Americans voting for someone they know nothing about.

He should NOT have been elected any way because he is an advocate of Socialism ( His Obama Care plan proves that, and was made clear prior to his election). But Americans just HAD TO HAVE the 1st black president.

I'll take a black pres any day. As long as he's not a trooper of socialism or communism.

I believe they (The American people) had brought this issue back in the 2008 Presidential election. It was started by McCain-Palin. But in any case, like most Americans....if he was (actually) born in Kenya...as well, as his mother, then he should be impeached and thrown out of office for lying to the American people. IMO

Chaser Tiponi
05-09-2011, 01:08 PM
I believe they (The American people) had brought this issue back in the 2008 Presidential election. It was started by McCain-Palin. But in any case, like most Americans....if he was (actually) born in Kenya...as well, as his mother, then he should be impeached and thrown out of office for lying to the American people. IMO

I hear ya! But if we impeached these Deralicts every time they lied we would never even have a President lol...

I don't remember the issue coming up 2008, but that was the year I was getting divorced so I'll have to take your word for it ( my head was so far up my ars that year I would have to ? my very existence).

theconspiracist
05-09-2011, 01:57 PM
I hear ya! But if we impeached these Deralicts every time they lied we would never even have a President lol...

I don't remember the issue coming up 2008, but that was the year I was getting divorced so I'll have to take your word for it ( my head was so far up my ars that year I would have to ? my very existence).

So what if we impeach them all. For the price of Presidency, you would think they would have the right mindset when they are seeking the Presidency. I am not saying, it's an easy job....because, it's not. But you would think, when they run for the highest office in the land, we would want them to do the things they say they're gonna do. Yeah, I know, it's mostly about "Say as I do, not do as I say" mentality. But hey, if they cannot function their duties, IMPEACH THEM. Oh wait, we can't do that....those lobbyists wouldn't let that happen. They put in so much time and effort, not to mention .... $$$$ just to have these corrupted government officials where they are. Matter of fact, where they want them to be. So, they can carry out their GREEDS and dubious agendas. Hmmm.....sound familiar?

Hey, maybe we should start a new thread on Chaser Tiponi for President in 2016? Perhaps, 2020? Do I hear any support? LOL

(Maybe you will have more friends than Obama when FB goes Universal. lol (I meant, we can have aliens vote, too! LOL It was meant to be funny!)

Chaser Tiponi
05-09-2011, 02:40 PM
So what if we impeach them all. For the price of Presidency, you would think they would have the right mindset when they are seeking the Presidency. I am not saying, it's an easy job....because, it's not. But you would think, when they run for the highest office in the land, we would want them to do the things they say they're gonna do. Yeah, I know, it's mostly about "Say as I do, not do as I say" mentality. But hey, if they cannot function their duties, IMPEACH THEM. Oh wait, we can't do that....those lobbyists wouldn't let that happen. They put in so much time and effort, not to mention .... $$$$ just to have these corrupted government officials where they are. Matter of fact, where they want them to be. So, they can carry out their GREEDS and dubious agendas. Hmmm.....sound familiar?

Hey, maybe we should start a new thread on Chaser Tiponi for President in 2016? Perhaps, 2020? Do I hear any support? LOL

(Maybe you will have more friends than Obama when FB goes Universal. lol (I meant, we can have aliens vote, too! LOL It was meant to be funny!)

I'm all for impeaching every one of the Deralicts myself.

And if I ran ( for president) in 2016 it would be 2019 before CNN started reporting that my real name is not Chaser Tiponi. :)

But you couldn't be more right about the lobbyists running the show. THAT'S A FACT!!!

theconspiracist
05-09-2011, 02:45 PM
I'm all for impeaching every one of the Deralicts myself.

And if I ran ( for president) in 2016 it would be 2019 before CNN started reporting that my real name is not Chaser Tiponi. :)

But you couldn't be more right about the lobbyists running the show. THAT'S A FACT!!!

Even I knew your name isn't Chaser Tiponi. lol

But in any case, by 2019...my guess would be Mitt Romney would finally be elected to Presidency....as he wins over Ron Paul. I think I forecast another Florida debacle in the 2019 Presidency Election. JMO

Chaser Tiponi
05-09-2011, 02:51 PM
Even I knew your name isn't Chaser Tiponi. lol

But in any case, by 2019...my guess would be Mitt Romney would finally be elected to Presidency....as he wins over Ron Paul. I think I forecast another Florida debacle in the 2019 Presidency Election. JMO

The only problem is we are all gonna be dead by then because of "Planet X" and the "Super Shock" or whatever the hell the guy calls it? :)

theconspiracist
05-09-2011, 02:54 PM
The only problem is we are all gonna be dead by then because of "Planet X" and the "Super Shock" or whatever the hell the guy calls it? :)


Hahaha...that's true. Sometimes I believe Obama is on Planet X, or whatever the guy calls it.

Chaser Tiponi
05-09-2011, 03:19 PM
Hahaha...that's true. Sometimes I believe Obama is on Planet X, or whatever the guy calls it.

Because he is at "Ground Zero" 10 years after the fact being a hero!!!

LA LA LAND is where he mostly resides.

theconspiracist
05-09-2011, 03:23 PM
Because he is at "Ground Zero" 10 years after the fact being a hero!!!

LA LA LAND is where he mostly resides.

I bet he had been trying to get Osama for the past 10 years. So, he thought, "Wait until 2008, when I become President. I will show that bastard he's done! Well done! I will fry his "Islamic" ass into hell!"

LMAO

BlueAngel
05-09-2011, 08:02 PM
What Obama conspiracy?

theconspiracist
05-09-2011, 08:04 PM
What Obama conspiracy?:rolleyes:

BlueAngel
05-09-2011, 08:11 PM
:rolleyes:

Your response to my question is an icon?

Okay, whatever!

theconspiracist
05-09-2011, 08:24 PM
Your response to my question is an icon?

Okay, whatever!

Oh, there was a question, huh? lol:rolleyes:

BlueAngel
05-09-2011, 08:27 PM
Oh, there was a question, huh? lol:rolleyes:

Huh?

You didn't see the question?

I asked.

What Obama conspiracy?

theconspiracist
05-09-2011, 08:33 PM
Huh?

You didn't see the question?

I asked.

What Obama conspiracy?

BA, I saw the question. I am not as dumb of a blonde as you may think.
I was merely rolling my eyes, because as you know, as well as probably everyone who reads this ....THERE IS NONE. Duh!:rolleyes:

BlueAngel
05-09-2011, 08:36 PM
BA, I saw the question. I am not as dumb of a blonde as you may think.
I was merely rolling my eyes, because as you know, as well as probably everyone who reads this ....THERE IS NONE. Duh!:rolleyes:

So, if you don't think there is an Obama conspiracy, why did you author a thread about an Obama conspiracy?

theconspiracist
05-09-2011, 08:39 PM
Because, I came across something that could, would or/and should have been a "Obama Conspiracy". Then when that Birther conspiracy came up, that was the reason why I made that thread instead.

Obama Conspiracy Theories | Fishing for gold coins in a bucket of mud (http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/)

Just making conversations. That's all.

BlueAngel
05-09-2011, 08:41 PM
Because, I came across something that could, would or/and should have been a "Obama Conspiracy". Then when that Birther conspiracy came up, that was the reason why I made that thread instead.

Obama Conspiracy Theories | Fishing for gold coins in a bucket of mud (http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/)

Just making conversations. That's all.

I suggest you make useless conversation elsewhere!

Thanks,
BA

theconspiracist
05-09-2011, 08:45 PM
I suggest you make useless conversation elsewhere!

Thanks,
BA

Only YOU think its useless conversation, BA. But I have read some of your posts, and they cannot be anymore useless than mine. But whatever floats your boat.

BlueAngel
05-09-2011, 08:47 PM
Only YOU think its useless conversation, BA. But I have read some of your posts, and they cannot be anymore useless than mine. But whatever floats your boat.

None of my posts are useless dude, that's why I'm the moderator of CC and you aren't and, therefore, have the capability to ban those members of the forum whom posts I decide are useless.

But, hey, whatever floats your boat!

theconspiracist
05-09-2011, 08:54 PM
None of my posts are useless dude, that's why I'm the moderator of CC and you aren't and, therefore, have the capability to ban those members of the forum whom posts I decide are useless.

But, hey, whatever floats your boat!

Yeah, a mod with a high ego way up her arse. C'mon BA. If banning people is your thing, why don't you just shutdown this forum? Only because, either people cannot have a discussion with having you banning them? What kind of forum is this? If someone disagrees with you....Oh, its time to ban him/her.
Or if someone says something YOU don't like, "Oh its time to ban him/her".

Get off your high horse, BA

BlueAngel
05-09-2011, 08:59 PM
Yeah, a mod with a high ego way up her arse. C'mon BA. If banning people is your thing, why don't you just shutdown this forum? Only because, either people cannot have a discussion with having you banning them? What kind of forum is this? If someone disagrees with you....Oh, its time to ban him/her.
Or if someone says something YOU don't like, "Oh its time to ban him/her".

Get off your high horse, BA

If you don't like my attitude, I suggest you go somewhere else.

I never said that I ban members of this forum who disagree with me.

I said I have the capability to ban members of this forum who post useless information.

Thanking you in advance,
BA

The moderator of this forum who is on a high horse with a high ego way up her arse!

theconspiracist
05-09-2011, 09:11 PM
If you don't like my attitude, I suggest you go somewhere else.

I never said that I ban members of this forum who disagree with me.

I said I have the capability to ban members of this forum who post useless information.

Thanking you in advance,
BA

The moderator of this forum who is on a high horse with a high ego way up her arse!

Well, this forum would be a great place for discussions, but with the mod that "thinks" its all about her....screw everyone else. It's ashame that it has gone downhill very fast.

I wouldn't mind your attitude, BA...if you aren't always so coarseful. But I guess that goes along with your attitude.

BlueAngel
05-11-2011, 05:39 PM
Well, this forum would be a great place for discussions, but with the mod that "thinks" its all about her....screw everyone else. It's ashame that it has gone downhill very fast.

I wouldn't mind your attitude, BA...if you aren't always so coarseful. But I guess that goes along with your attitude.

This forum is a great place for discussion.

I very rarely interfere and I don't think it's all about me.

This forum has been uphill since I was APPOINTED the moderator.

Too bad you weren't around when it was downhill and I wasn't the moderator.

I am so sorry that you wouldn't mind my attitude if it wasn't so coarse.

Incoming message:

I don't change my attitude for anyone.

So, I guess you'll just have to mind it.

theconspiracist
05-11-2011, 05:44 PM
This forum is a great place for discussion.

I very rarely interfere and I don't think it's all about me.

This forum has been uphill since I was APPOINTED the moderator.

Too bad you weren't around when it was downhill.

I am so sorry that you wouldn't mind my attitude if it wasn't so coarse.

Incoming message:

I don't change my attitude for anyone.

So, I guess you'll just have to mind it.

Yeah, in some positive way, I am glad I wasn't here when you were APPOINTED to moderate this forum.

You realize that this forum isn't as great as it used to be. Its ashame that they made you a mod of this forum.

BlueAngel
05-11-2011, 05:47 PM
Yeah, in some positive way, I am glad I wasn't here when you were APPOINTED to moderate this forum.

You realize that this forum isn't as great as it used to be. Its ashame that they made you a mod of this forum.

You weren't here when I wasn't the moderator, unless you are posting under another username, so you know not of what you speak.

This forum is great, pal.

Get over it.

I'm the mdoerator and it's only a shame in your eyes.

Stop your whining and move along.

theconspiracist
05-11-2011, 05:51 PM
You weren't here when I wasn't the moderator, unless you are posting under another username, so you know not of what you speak.

This forum is great, pal.

Get over it.

I'm the mdoerator and it's only a shame in your eyes.

Stop your whining and move along.

No, I wasn't here when YOU became a mod. But I have read some of the posts here before I joined in 2009.

How about you moving along, BA. No one ever said that you have to respond to every comments made. You just do that just to get back at them. So, how about you stop the whining.

BlueAngel
05-11-2011, 06:04 PM
No, I wasn't here when YOU became a mod. But I have read some of the posts here before I joined in 2009.

How about you moving along, BA. No one ever said that you have to respond to every comments made. You just do that just to get back at them. So, how about you stop the whining.

I don't whine.

That's what you do and I certainly don't respond to every and any post on this forum and even if I did, it really doesn't need to concern you.

Thanks,
BA

theconspiracist
05-11-2011, 06:06 PM
I don't whine.

That's what you do and I certainly don't respond to every and any post on this forum and even if I did, it really doesn't need to concern you.

Thanks,
BA

Never said it a concern to me. And, you do if you don't like what you see. Just suck it up, BA.....not everything in life is always as pretty as you want or like it to be.

BlueAngel
05-11-2011, 06:30 PM
Never said it a concern to me. And, you do if you don't like what you see. Just suck it up, BA.....not everything in life is always as pretty as you want or like it to be.

Sorry, but you made a point of saying that it isn't necessary that I respond to every post, so, therefore, it is a concern to you or you would not have stated the same.

FYI, I don't suck anything up; whatever that means.

Huh?

You said to me:

Not everything in life is always as pretty as I want or like it to be?

Talk about coming out of left field!

Perfect example!

theconspiracist
05-11-2011, 06:39 PM
Sorry, but you made a point of saying that it isn't necessary that I respond to every post, so, therefore, it is a concern to you or you would not have stated the same.

FYI, I don't suck anything up; whatever that means.

Huh?

You said to me:

Not everything in life is always as pretty as I want or like it to be?

Talk about coming out of left field!

Perfect example!

I was referring to the fact, you don't like anything I say. So, I said....just suck it up. Or better yet, just suck it.

BlueAngel
05-11-2011, 06:52 PM
I was referring to the fact, you don't like anything I say. So, I said....just suck it up. Or better yet, just suck it.

Like I said, I don't suck anything up!