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rushdoony
09-25-2005, 09:48 PM
Their Deceptive Schemes, Old Tricks & Dirty Lies
I have a news article in my files entitled, Witches Seek Mainstream Status. To be sure witches are out of the broom closet and walking down main street. In fact, they are going to great lengths to sanitize their reputation and remake their image. That is easy to see when you see media articles with titles like - Witches spell it out: Don't Stereotype Us, and I Am Not A Wicked Witch. In the process of trying to remake themselves to be acceptable to mainstream Americans they use deceptive schemes, old tricks and dirty lies to accomplish their goal. The following are but a few examples.

White Washing the name "Witch" By Using The Term Wiccan!
Most of today's witches prefer to be called "wiccans" instead of witches. The very name witch conjures mental images associated with evil and they want to change that. They go to great lengths to redefine themselves by using the term wicca. But, the word witch comes from the Old English word wicca (masculine) wicce (feminine) which means to practice sorcery. In fact our English word wicked is from the root word wicca and literally means witch-like. As early as 890 A.D. the word "wiccan" was used to identify witches "in the Laws of King Alfred." In short, changing the name from witch to wiccan is an attempt at historical revisionism. A witch or wiccan is, by the very name, a defining word for wickedness.

Wicca: The World's Oldest Religion
Wiccans have told me over and over again that Wicca is the world's oldest religion and that Wicca is older than Christianity. Problem is, that is a lie! Aidan Kelly, Ph.D., founder of two of the largest witchcraft organizations in America exposes this myth. The write up for his book, Crafting the Art of Magic - book 1 puts it this way, "Kelly himself wanted to believe that Wicca was the rediscovering of ancient Goddess-worshipping people. However, his research proved that this is not the case." In fact, Gerald Gardner (1884-1964) is the inventor of the cult of Wicca. In his book, At the Heart of Darkness, John Parker says, "retired (British) civil servant Gerald Brosseau Gardner, inventor of a witch cult (was) an old fraud." But why would Parker say that? I'll tell you why. "There is much evidence suggesting that Gardner concocted most of his rituals and legends from his own furtile imagination and that he promoted witchcraft for economic and sexual reasons." The article goes on to say that any witchcraft group that claims roots prior to 1950 is highly suspect. In short, today's Wicca or witchcraft is a modern cult originating in the 1950's and can not legitimately claim to be older than Christianity.

Witches Do Not Believe In or Acknowledge The Devil/Satan
While Wicca has a modern origin, they eclecticly draw upon diabolical occult information, rituals, and ceremonies from idol worshippers of the past. In fact, they use a deceptive scheme involving semantic word games to deny their involvement with the Devil and or Satan. For instance, Wiccans will tell you that they believe in Lucifer. They claim that "he is the god of the Sun and of the Moon." However most knowledgeable Wiccans recognize that the book La Sorciere by French historian Jules Michelet is a major contributer to their cult (The English version is published by Citadel Press under the title Satanism and Witchcraft). But, here's the facts. "Michelet's book is full of passionate, sympathetic depictions of Satan and medieval witchcraft."

Then there is the book by Charles G. Leland - Aradia:Gospel of the Witches, which is another major source of Wiccan beliefs. The very first paragraph reads…

"Diana greatly loved her brother Lucifer, the god of the Sun and of the Moon, the god of Light, who was so proud of his beauty, and who for his pride was driven from Paradise."

GOTCHA! This is a reference to Isaiah 14 in the Bible where Lucifer is expelled from the presence of God and becomes the Devil or Satan! In fact, Isaiah 14:12 (KJV) is the only passage where Lucifer is mentioned in the entire Bible. Otherwise he is called the Devil, Satan, the Dragon, etc.

But that is not the only example. In Mastering Witchcraft: A Practical Guide for Witches… Paul Huson makes this statement - "This is a beginner's guide to practical witchcraft, revealing the techniques and secret workings of those who practice the black arts. It presents the first steps to becoming a witch…It answers all the basic questions about spells, magical recipes, rituals, divination, covens, curses, apparatus, how to develop one's power, etc. From reciting the Lord's Prayer backward through…details for spells to arouse lust…attain vengeance…"

Speaking of vengeance, consider this ritual of wrath "a conjuration of the Horned One" recorded on page 186 - "I conjure thee by Barabbas, by Satanas, by the devil cursed be! I summon thee by Barabbas, by Satanas by the devil conjured be! By the underworld itself…" Need I note that Barabbas and Satanas are references to the devil who is mentioned?

Again, we see the attempt by modern witches to deny the truth. The Gospel of John 8:44 has interesting ramifications when it comes to this cover-up by witches -- "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."

Let's move on to two more lies witches tell.

The Upside-down Pentagram Is Satanic Not Wiccan
Nothing could be further from the truth! It is well documented that in the Gardinarian and Alexandrian Wiccan cult, they use the upside-down pentagram as the symbol of Second Degree Initiation.

Wiccans Only Do Good Magic, Healing Magic
On numerous occasions I have been told by witches that the Wiccan Rede ("An it harm none, do what ye will") and the threefold law (evil directed at another will return 3 fold upon the perpetrator) hinders witches from directing magic spells or other negative actions against anyone. That just is not true! For instance, famous witch Sybil Leek published a book called the Book of Curses. Earlier in this article I mentioned Paul Huson's book Mastering Witchcraft. In it, "full details are given for spells to…attain vengeance." Cursing and vengeance are not good any way you look at it. This is just another attempt to mask the truth.

Wiccans are Wholesome, Family Oriented People
Witches are not the wholesome, family oriented people they claim to be. Doreen Irvine, a practicing witch for many years, said, Many "witches were lesbians and homosexuals." And she's right. I have a poster, letter and application in my files for, as they called it, "FAGGOT WITCH CAMP." The letter advertised the "second annual FAGGOT WITCH CAMP, August 26-30, 1991." This event was held at Wyalusing State Park in Prairie du Chien, Wisconsin. According to the letter, "Our purpose in organizing this event is to gather with like-minded queer men and to explore our unique perspectives and experiences as faggot witches." This queer event was even announced in the witch publication Circle Network News; Spring 1991.

Witchcraft is a perverted sex oriented cult. According to the book, What Witches Do, "witchcraft has always been a fertility religion…" and the orgy was a part of the Craft "giving the plainer girls a chance."

Gardinarian witch Patricia C. Crowther describes modern day witch orgies this way -

"The motives of the modern witches are often thought to be questionable, and certainly a considerable element of sexuality is present at many meetings…The nudity of the coven, the frantic dancing, the incense and the slightly illicit atmosphere contribute to this…The binding and whipping of new initiants for 'purification' purposes, for instance, is highly titillating for those with sado-masochistic tendencies…while 'the five-fold kiss' bestowed by the high priest or priestess on the feet, knees, genitals, breasts and lips of the new members speaks for itself. The 'Great Rite,' performed at certain ceremonies and consisting of token or actual sexual intercourse…is justified on the grounds that Wicca is, after all, a fertility cult. Only the high priest may initiate a female member, while the high priestess initiates the males."

"One of the most important religious organizations of Neo-Paganism in America is the Church of All Worlds (CAW)…CAW played a key role in the 1970's in the networking of diverse Pagan and Wiccan groups…" Their official journal is the Green Egg - A Journal of the Awakening Earth. The entirety of Volume 29, No. 119; 1997 dealt with ritual sexual sado-masocshim. There certainly is nothing wholesome about that!

Then there was the case of an Ohio witch who ended up in court. A 15 year old girl "was selected as high priestess of the cult" and he initiated her and several other teenage girls in a perverse way. The news article states, "There were candles, seances, rituals. They would have to be naked and have sex with him in order to get involved with the magic." The witch leader was charged with three counts of second degree sexual assault of a child, and two counts of sexual intercourse with a child aged 16 or older. Again, witches lie when they say they are wholesome. Sexual perversion is never wholesome!

Speaking of sexual perversion I also have in my files a copy of a witchcraft publication that states that a well known east coast witch "transitioned" from male to female on Samhain, October 31. What that means is that the person was born a biological male but had his sex organs surgically removed and altered to appear to be female. That IS perversion! In fact, another noted witch who has authored a best selling book on witchcraft under a female name, was born a biological male.

Sexual perversion abounds in many witch covens and organizations!

In 1991, I published a 30 page research report entitled, "The Dark Side of Halloween." In the book I quoted a former witch who said, "Sadism was practiced frequently..." Several years back I brought this up on a national talk show. When I said this, two witches who worshipped Dagon were sitting on one side of me and a vampire on the other. The audience was peppered with witches. As soon as the words were out of my mouth there was a hot protest from the witches. In fact, since the show was not live, the witches put so much pressure on the producers that they edited out my words! They did not want the public to know about their sadistic practices. While not all witches engage in such perversions, there is a large constituency that do.

I will conclude this section by saying, there is nothing wholesome about any of these perverted sexual practices. While witches try to mask these diabolical practices, the record speaks for itself. And as Dr. Merill Unger observes, "for those who surrender to worship and serve Satan, the moral degradation and perversion is horrifying."

Witches Don't Believe In Blood Offerings, Animal or Human Sacrifice
While many Wicca cult members offer fruit and vegetable sacrifices to their pagan gods and goddesses, blood offerings and animal or human sacrifices are a part of historic pagan and witchcraft rites. But, it is becoming increasingly frequent in the witch community today.

I have read several accounts and have recorded personal testimonies of individuals who were initiated into witchcraft that incorporated rituals using their own blood. Consider Alex Sanders (1926-1988). He is the father of Alexandrian Wicca. He was initiated into witchcraft using a blood ritual. A witch had "him stand nude in a circle with his head down. She took a sharp razor, cut his scrotum to make it bleed…He was initiated as a third degree, and he became a black magickian."

There are other uses of blood as well. For instance there is a connection between blood and the witches wand. "The most efficacious wand will be made of one of the woods sacred to the White Goddess: elderberry, willow, rowan, hazel, oak or mistletoe." The article goes on to say that the branch is then hollowed out and "filled with cotton wool and brought to life with three drops of the witch's own blood."

The use of blood to facilitate power is not uncommon. One witch told me that they had anointed their divination board with their own blood so as to empower the board.

In the book, "Secrets of the Occult" by C.A. Burland, it talks about groups in south Germany about 1960 who "hunted and decapitated deer for a blood-drinking rite." In fact, there are those who claim to be witches, even Wiccans who do that and worse today.

Consider the case of Wiccan Damien Wayne Echols. He was involved with the ritual murder of Michael Moore, Christopher Byres and Steve Branch. There are those who accused Echols of being a Satanist but Echols asserts that he is a Wiccan. In a search of his home they found a book of spells, potions and prayers which was his book of shadows. It begins with an entry stating "all rites are to be performed within a nine-foot circle." The article goes on to say, "following that, there is a ritual to be used for 'improving' the memory,' which includes using the 'heart, eye or brain of a lapwing or plover (birds) and hanging it on one's neck."

Wiccans loudly protest when things like this are pointed out. And while I am sure that not all witches are involved in blood sacrifices there are those who are. Further, the originator of the Wiccan Cult, Gerald Gardner, was involved in human sacrifice. Here is what is recorded. "The group was deadly serious about their secret ritual…But to be 100 per cent effective there would have to be a human sacrifice." One of the coven members volunteered. "The coven was also known to use an hallucinogen…Having formed their magic circle in the depths of the forest, the group, who were naked, made a line and held hands and then danced furiously around a small bonfire, chanting incantations…They performed the rite with such vigour that one or two of them fainted, a not uncommon experience when a serious amount of power and energy is aroused by the perfomance of ritual. The old volunteer duly collapsed and died, and it is not known whether it was from an overdose of mushrooms, over-exhaustion or the cold. The great sacrifice had been made and the potency of their magic…enhanced…"

Historically, human sacrifice has been associated with witchcraft. Anyone who is intellectually honest will admit that. But it seems that some Wiccans are finally coming out of the closet and preparing the way for the acceptance of human sacrifice within their ranks. In fact, a major Wiccan periodical carried an article titled Sacrifice: An Elevation. In this article Nasira Alma states, "We cannot be 'above' sacrifice, human or other…Divinors foresaw events by noting the manner of the victim's fall, the twitching of his limbs, and how his blood spurted…Sacrifice is the law of our nature. It maintains the balance between the inner and the outer, the physical and the spiritual, the Divine and the human."

Witches desperately want public acceptance! As you have seen, many will lie in an effort to get it. A massive nation wide disinformation campaign has been mounted to convince people that their beliefs and practices are normal and acceptable. This report has been prepared to unmask just a few of their Deceptive Schemes, Old Tricks & Dirty Lies.

We are warned in the Bible, Ephesians 5:11, And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. There is good reason for that warning because the power behind witchcraft and the occult is demonic power. In Acts 16:16-18 we see that the psychic powers of the young girl were demonic in origin. In fact, in the article entitled Communicating with the departed, the author admits to what we know to be demon possession when she says "…for the spirit to be contacted actually enters the Wytche's body…" Is it any wonder that Paul says of Elymas the sorcerer, O full of all subtlety and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord? Acts 13:10. The same can be said of any witch today.

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The Problem With Witchcraft & The Occult
It is important that people understand that there are two sources of wisdom available to mankind -- God's Wisdom and the Devil's Wisdom. We see this in James 3:15-17 "This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish. 16 For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work. 17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be entreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.

Demonic wisdom (Lucifer's or the Devil's wisdom), that wisdom that "descendeth not from above, is characterized as being earthly, sensual and devilish. God's wisdom on the other hand is said to be pure, peacable, gentle, etc. In short, there are two very different kinds of wisdom with two very different outcomes.

Biblical Christianity is the manifestation of God's wisdom from above. Wicca, witchcraft, paganism, Satanism, etc. are manifestations of the devil's wisdom from beneath.

We are encouraged to seek God's wisdom and power. And, in fact the Bible outlines the means we are to use in seeking to access that wisdom and power.

How To Tap Into God's Wisdom And Power
The wisdom that God commends may be accessed through…

PRAYER

James 1:5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.

BIBLE STUDY & MEDITATION

Psalms 19:7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.

Colossians 3:16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord. (See also 2 Peter 3:15-16 & 2 Timothy 3:16-17)

Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

WISE COUNSEL

Proverbs 1:5 A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels:

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

On the other hand, there are ways people attempt to tap into demonic wisdom as well. But the Bible warns us that God condemns and forbids seeking after demonic wisdom. This is clearly articulated in Deuteronomy 18:9-12 where we are told not learn to imitate the detestable ways of the occult. divination, sorcery, witchcraft, mediums, necromancy, casting spells and more are said to be an abomination to the Lord.

How People Attempt To Access Demonic Wisdom
DIVINATION/FORTUNETELLING

Divination is the act of attempting to prophesy (forecast future events) or human character through occult means by making use of certain omens or divination tools such as tarot cards, tea

leaves, Ouija board, astrology, palmistry, scrying devices (crystal balls, mirrors, crystals, etc.). The method of divination often changes but the spirit and force behind it remains the same…a demon spirit (Acts 16:16-18).

SORCERY/MAGICK

Sorcery is the act of attempting to contact, manipulate or control people, spirits, animals, plants, the elements (earth, air, fire, water) through occult rituals, ceremonies, objects (amulets, talismans, charms, etc.) Though magic may "work," the power behind magic is demonic and those who practice magic are the enemies of righteousness. (Acts 13:6-10)

SPIRITISM/NECROMANCY

Spiritism or necromancy is an occult activity grounded in the belief that through certain persons acting as mediums or channels (psychics, necromancers, channelers, etc.) the dead or the spirit world can be contacted and hidden information can be acquired from those contacted. Trances and seances are often used by the medium. The power behind this activity is demonic. This activity is forbidden by the Lord. 1 Chronicles 10:13, So Saul died for his transgression which he committed against the LORD, even against the word of the LORD, which he kept not, and also for asking counsel of one that had a familiar spirit, to inquire of it. (1 Sam. 28:7 gives the context).

In fact, by the personal testimony of neo-pagans, Wiccans and Satanists I have personally talked to, and as recorded in the hundreds of books as well as in the files that I have in my archive, they ALL, (pagans, Satanists, Wiccans and other occult groups I have not even mentioned), without exception, attempt to secure their wisdom through one or more of the occult means I have just mentioned.

We are to order our lives by the wisdom of God. That is the wisdom revealed in the Bible. This is the wisdom of Jesus Christ. Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. John 14:6

We are to reject the wisdom from beneath, the wisdom of the devil, the wisdom of Wicca. The wisdom of witchcraft is the wisdom of the damned…Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

If you are involved in witchcraft or other occult practices you are sinning against the Lord God of Heaven and you are destined for damnation in the Lake of Fire. But, if you repent of your sins and call upon the Lord Jesus Christ to forgive your sins and save your soul Heaven can be your destiny. John 3:16-18 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
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freeman
09-25-2005, 10:09 PM
Good article, rush. It corroborates my own research along these lines.
Wicca is definitely a new spiritual fad, encouraged largely by the Freemasonic lodges.
It is so egregious, I actully witnessed a young girl who is a Freemasonic recruit (Rainbow Girls) drop a pamphlet underneath one of the pews during a service at the church I attend. I bend over to pick it up for her, and I noted that it was a short treatise on Wiccan theology.
So I decided to do her a favor, and I let it lie on the floor.

nohope187
09-25-2005, 10:14 PM
I hear people talk about how great that "burning man" festival is every now and then. I guess it's the wiccan version of woodstock.

truebeliever
09-26-2005, 12:04 AM
What is it with the Christians trying to convert everyone and then the critics of Christianity turn around and try to do the same thing?

Let people come. Or let them rot wherever it is they choose to rot.

The Churches are to blame and ABOVE all a world of dead and dry materialism which makes Jack VERY dull boy.

Men and women, boys and girls want to EXPERIENCE religion! And what do the Churches offer?

Now we have the 'evangelicals' who all look they're on high doses of Prozac or off their heads on "speed".

When will the tools required to "know God" be given by the Church or are the Wiccans and Freemasons going to do it for them...but to a different God?

Blame the stupid Church.

They chose safety and power over decentralising the power to know God...and have lost to the "New Age".

We can only hope as time goes on that once the fad is over people will return from whence they came with a reinvigorated and renewed faith.

Shiva
09-26-2005, 05:10 AM
'Wiccans' is simply a new name for something that has been with us for centuries.

Something watched, contained and powerless. A sideshow for the gullible.

you are looking at the greatest threat to the righteous man right now. The internet. Each generation has its challenge.

this is ours. Not Wiccans.

Saturnino
09-26-2005, 06:12 AM
Enter any bookstore in Brazil and all you see is Wiccan books. There is even one about Wiccan culinary. Middle class women in search of money, success and men are the main target. They are swallowing this sinker and hook. Wicca is perfectly aligned with this new spirit of the age: "you deserve it, you are fabulous, you are a Goddess, the world must be at your feet." Sorry ladies, but Wicca is a man made (Gardner created it) religion based on old paganism for the women of the XX century in search of power. Makow should write about it. It is the feminist / L'Oreal cosmetics religion

The book Wicca: Satan's White Lie by Bill Schonebelen (a former witch) is the best I have read about it.

freeman
09-26-2005, 08:56 AM
Sorry ladies, but Wicca is a man made (Gardner created it) religion based on old paganism for the women of the XX century in search of power. Makow should write about it. It is the feminist / L'Oreal cosmetics religion.

Exactly. Along with Harry Potter, it is the contemporary primer for indoctrination into the occult. Like marijuana, basically inocuous in and of itself, but it gets you over the threshold and pretty soon you're into the harder stuff.

When will the tools required to "know God" be given by the Church or are the Wiccans and Freemasons going to do it for them...but to a different God?

That is precisely the plan. Corrupt and neuter the churches, and then make the sheeple delve into the occult to obtain their real shot of spirituality.

Nyarla
09-26-2005, 11:19 AM
Being involved in satanic,
and occult practices since
a youth - I understand
completely where this article
is coming from.

The occult is certainly
a tool of the NWO to
spread confusion. It
recruits concerned
and worthwhile people
into nonsensical babble.

Spirituality is different
from dogmatic servitude to
a false belief. Involvement
in the occult is absurd -
and a practice in futility.

It is undermining freedom -
rather innocently. People
would like to write it off
under the pretence of diversity -
but in reality - it's
curropting youth's minds.

09-26-2005, 02:06 PM
Nyarla wrote:
Being involved in satanic,
and occult practices since
a youth - I understand
completely where this article
is coming from.

The occult is certainly
a tool of the NWO to
spread confusion. It
recruits concerned
and worthwhile people
into nonsensical babble.

Spirituality is different
from dogmatic servitude to
a false belief. Involvement
in the occult is absurd -
and a practice in futility.

It is undermining freedom -
rather innocently. People
would like to write it off
under the pretence of diversity -
but in reality - it's
curropting youth's minds.


Hi, thanks for sharing with us! I'm sorry that you were subjected to this practice as a youth and hope that you are well.

Bouncer
09-26-2005, 03:50 PM
I've been accosted by some of these types when I was out West. A few covens can be truly mean-tempered when you strip the mask away. It gives you a peek at the raging envy and hatred that breeds in the hearts of those controlled by Lucifer. He will use people like them and reward them with gifts and Satanic miracles until they are used up. Guess what happens then? They should know that God was always stronger than Lucifer and is able to save even the most hard-core Satanist through faith. If Lucifer knew the result of killing Jesus, he wouldn't have been so quick to put Him on the cross.

Veritas
09-26-2005, 04:03 PM
I can believe the Harry Potter mention.

I hate to be a debunker but that is plain wrong. There is zero mysticism in those books. They are extremely well written.

The most extraordinary thing about them is they feature one small boy trying thwart an evil conspiracy with nothing but his friends and his mind as no one believes him.

Sounds like something this forum should like to me.

09-26-2005, 06:20 PM
The adversary sits as the god of this earth. Belief in this being one way are the other has no effect on this being. By the way there are play witches and REAL WITCHES, there are Daemons and all sorts of beings that are non-human. They have never hidden themselves from humans. They let the humans interpret there actions and manifestations as they will. These have greater fish to fry.

madkhao
10-29-2005, 05:56 AM
TWO WITCHES A Modern Craft Fairy-Tale

http://witches.50webs.com/

Wiccans believe that with their knowledge of herbs witches were the ones who developed the art of cosmetics.

Question: Does putting on makeup mean one is practising the craft? Does it in effect make one a witch?

igwt
10-29-2005, 06:12 AM
From Watchman Org.

Witchcraft / Wicca
By Rick Branch

Founder: While Gerald B. Gardner is generally credited with the modern revival of Wicca, he was neither the first to practice nor the founder of Witchcraft.

Founding Date: In 1949 Gardner published his first book, which was later followed by several other works.

Official Publication: Because of the varied nature of Wicca, there is no single official publication. However, Llewellyn's New Worlds of Mind and Spirit and Llewellyn New Times (Llewellyn Publishing) are two of the key periodicals.

Organization Structure: Each individual coven is autonomous and therefore will have their own organizational structure. Generally the high priestess is considered the leader of the Coven.

Unique Terms: Witch refers to both male and female members. Sabbats are the meetings held on festival dates while esbats are the general meetings held by local Covens.

Other Names: The Craft and The Old Religion are sometimes used to refer to the magical aspects of Wicca or to its revival of ancient non-Christian traditions. While Neo-Paganism is often associated with Wicca and the two certainly share many of the same characteristics, Neo-Paganism is, technically speaking, somewhat different in its ideology.
HISTORY
Though Witchcraft can be traced back several centuries before the coming of Christ, through the early Christian church period, the inquisition, early American colonies and finally through Spiritism of the past century, for the purpose of this Profile, the historical overview will begin with Wicca's modern revival in 1949 (The Encyclopedia of Witches and Witchcraft, Rosemary Ellen Guiley, pp. 368-374).

Gerald Gardner published his High Magic's Aid, a novel about "The Craft," in 1949 under the pen-name, "Scire" (Drawing Down The Moon, Margot Adler, p. 61). The pen-name was used because of the current laws of the land. However, "In 1951 the Witchcraft Act of 1736, and a section of the Vagrancy Act of 1824, were replaced by the Fraudulent Medium Act. For the first time in more than 300 years in Britain, witchcraft was no longer a crime" (Encyclopedia of Witches and Witchcraft, p. 374). Due to the changes in the legal system, Gardner was able to follow-up his novel with two other non-fiction works under his own name.

Guiley has observed, "It is difficult to say whether Gardner intended to create a new religion or whether it grew spontaneously from public interest in his writings" (Ibid.). However, Frank Smyth writes in Man, Myth and Magic, "In the absence of any evidence except hearsay, there is a strong case in favour of the suggestion that Gardner invented the cult of Wicca to satisfy his own sense of the esoteric" (Richard Cavendish, Editor, Vol. 14, p. 1869). Other authors have indicated that Gardner's revival of Witchcraft also "centered mainly around discreet sexual frolics in the nude, aided by drugs" (Encyclopedia of Occultism and Parapsychology, Leslie Shepard, Vol. 1, p. 366).

Throughout his life, Gardner was fascinated with many different aspects of the Occult. He had been a follower in varying degrees of such people and philosophies as Aleister Crowley, Ordo Templi Orientis, the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn and Rosicrucianism (Encyclopedia of Witches and Witchcraft, p. 375).

Historians have credited Doreen Valiente, a follower of Gardner who he initiated into the Craft in 1953, with "increasing the emphasis on the Goddess" (Ibid.).

While followers of Witchcraft had been in America for hundreds of years, its "greatest growth took place in the 1960s and 1970s, during a general revival of interest in Occultism" (Ibid.). Many historians of Wicca credit Raymond Buckland and his wife Rosemary with Wicca's successful spread into American society. "The Bucklands came to the U.S. in 1962" having been followers of Gardner (Encyclopedia of Occultism and Parapsychology, Leslie Shepard, Vol. 1, p. 133).

In 1973, Llewellyn Press, one of the most prolific publishers of Occult material, "sponsored a meeting of Witches in Minneapolis." The gathering, attended by Witches from seventy-three different Craft traditions, attempted to write a statement of principles. The attempt failed to satisfy all participants. The meeting was followed in 1974 by the Council of American Witches which did finally draw-up the Principles of Wiccan Belief. Later, in 1975, thirteen covens would "ratify the Covenant of the Goddess" (Drawing Down the Moon, pp. 99-103)

Rosemary Guiley explains why most modern followers prefer the term Wicca to Witchcraft. "As a religion Witchcraft often is called `Wicca,' an Old English term for `witch,' in order to counter the negative stereotype of Witches as ugly, evil, and Devil-worshipers" (Harper's Encyclopedia of Mystical and Paranormal Experience, p. 647).

Because of their wish to avoid stereotypes and the autonomous nature of Wicca, several key groups have sprung into existence over the past few decades. Some of these groups are the Gardnerian (founded by Gerald Gardner), the Alexandrian (founded by Alexander Sanders), the Dianic (based on the worship of the Greek goddess Diana), the Celtic (based on worship of ancient Celtic myths) and several others (Encyclopedia of Witches and Witchcraft, pp. 377-379).

One other group which differs somewhat in its theological perspectives, yet is Wiccan in its overall philosophy is the School of Wicca founded by Gavin and Yvonne Frost. By some estimates, this group "may have created a hundred covens through its activities" (Drawing Down the Moon, p. 125).
DOCTRINE
As with most groups that fall under the wide umbrella term of Occultism, the theology of Wicca varies from group to group and even from coven to coven. However, the following are a few of the doctrines that most Wiccan covens will believe and practice.

1) Autonomy: "There is no central authority or liturgy; various traditions have their own rituals, philosophy and beliefs. Some have added elements from Eastern, Native American Indian, aboriginal and shamanic systems; others have injected politics into their traditions. New ritual, songs, chants and poetry are continually created" (Encyclopedia of Witches and Witchcraft, p. 376). Raymond Buckland explains, "All religions lead in the same direction, simply taking different paths to get there. Witches feel that all should therefore be free to choose their own path" (Buckland's Complete Book of Witchcraft, p. 99).

2) Experience verses Dogma: Because of the Autonomy of each Coven and even to a large degree of each individual member of Wicca, the experience of the individual is of greater importance than any set of dogmatic doctrines. "Generally speaking Witches are very open-minded people, especially where religion is concerned. They have no hard and fast `Commandments,' no catechisms" (Ibid.). Adler adds, "By creating our own divinities we create mental steps for ourselves, up which we can mount toward realizing ourselves as divine. The lack of dogma in the Craft, the fact that one can worship the Goddess without believing in Her, that one can accept the Goddess as `Muse' and the Craft as a form of ancient knowledge to be tested by experience; these are precisely the things that have caused the Craft to survive, to revive, and to be re-created in this century" (Drawing Down the Moon, p. 173).

3) Rituals: These individual or Coven experiences are gained through self-designed rituals. "We are talking about the rituals that people create to get in touch with those powerful parts of themselves that cannot be experienced on a verbal level. Rituals are also created to acknowledge on this deeper level the movement of the seasons and the natural world, and to celebrate life and its processes" (Ibid., pp. 197-198).

4) Magic: Many of these rituals involve divination or magic. "In his book of shadows, Gardner listed eight ways to raise magical power (singly or in combination): (1) meditation or concentration; (2) chants, spells, and invocations; (3) trance and astral projection; (4) incense, wine and drugs; (5) dancing; (6) blood control by binding parts of the body with cords; (7) scourging (not enough to draw blood); (8) ritual sex" (Harper's Encyclopedia of Paranormal Experience, p. 649).

5) Goddess Worship: This worship of the Goddess sometimes manifests itself as the worship of "the Mother Goddess in her three aspects of Maiden, Mother, and Crone." Sometimes it is the worship of "what we potentially are" (Drawing Down the Moon, pp. 10-11, 202). In many covens the high priestess is seen as the personification of the "mother goddess who is the principal deity of witchlore" (Man, Myth and Magic, Vol. 14, p. 1866).

6) Feminism: While not all feminists are Wiccans, many find the philosophy of Wicca to be a compatible philosophy. "Women who have come to the Goddess outside the channels of Neo-Paganism and the Craft are beginning to find rituals and concepts that allow for the same idea. They are finding the Goddess within themselves and within all women. And, as might be expected, those feminists who have found joy in rituals, and who have discovered that the concept of `Goddess' feels right inside, are often drawn into the Craft" (Drawing Down the Moon, p. 205).

7) Seasonal Festivals: The worship of nature or natural order is of paramount importance. "Wicca is basically a fertility cult and its great festivals are geared to the seasons." Key dates in the Wiccan calendar would include February 2 (Candlemas), March 21 (spring equinox), April 30 (Beltane), June 22 (summer solstice), August 1 (August Eve), September 21 (autumn equinox), October 31 (Halloween), December 21 (winter solstice) (Man, Myth and Magic, Vol. 14, p. 1866).

8) Evil: Wiccan groups do not accept the existence of evil. They explain, "Wicca can be defined as a pagan mystery religion with a polarized deity and no personification of evil." In the Principles of Wiccan Beliefs is stated, "We do not accept the concept of `absolute evil,' nor do we worship any entity known as `Satan' or `The Devil' as defined by the Christian tradition" (Drawing Down the Moon, pp. 100, 103).

9) Horned God: As mentioned, some Wiccan covens worship not only a Mother Goddess, but also a masculine deity. "Many Craft traditions also worship a god, related to the ancient horned lord of animals, the god of the hunt, the god of death and lord of the forests" (Drawing Down the Moon, p. 11).
BIBLICAL RESPONSE
Because followers of Wicca do not believe the Bible to be the Word of God, it is difficult to demonstrate the error of Wicca from a biblical standpoint. However, from the Christian perspective, Wicca's theology has been condemned for centuries.

1) Witchcraft and magic (enchantments) are condemned. Lev. 19:26, 31; Deut. 18:10-11; 2 Chron. 33:6.

2) Worship of other gods (or of goddesses) is condemned. Exodus 20:3; 1 Kings 11:4-5.

3) Esteeming nature above God is condemned. Romans 1:21-25.

4) Satan and his influence of evil are real. Zech. 3:2; Matt. 4:1-11; Luke 6:45Watchman (http://www.watchman.org/profile/witchpro.htm)

Bouncer
10-31-2005, 09:22 AM
Thanks, igwt. I want to add that the greek word for enchantment or witchcraft in the Bible is "pharmacopeia", the root of our modern word pharmaceutical. All of the old comics about the witch's brew with bats (for the rabies virus) are only a hint of how important chemical influence is to the black arts. Example: suppose a female witch wants to seduce a "man of high morals" for blackmail, etc? So she slips some yohimbe or other sexual stimulant in his wine, VOILA!! That's basically how it works.

Black witchcraft is the ORIGINAL mind-control technology. No wonder you-know-who is in bed with them.

As the Mossad has said, the CIA is obsessed with mind control. Time to move on to the oath you took, boneheads.

igwt
10-31-2005, 10:19 PM
Bouncer: -"...greek word for enchantment or witchcraft in the Bible is "pharmacopeia", the root of our modern word pharmaceutical..."

Another interesting point is that the symbol the medical and pharmacutical industry uses...

http://www.ama.com.au/web.nsf/home_ama_logo.jpg

10-31-2005, 10:53 PM
Wiccans are people who at heart want to be Thelemites but don't have the stomach or brains for it.

They want to be bad, but not too bad.

10-31-2005, 11:32 PM
A normal Wiccan family having a pleasent night on the town.

The keen observer will notice that this family has all the key ingredients necessary for today's contemporary happy pagan.

1. The Matriach, or mother figure. This old hag looks like she attended the Woodstock festival once too many times in the 60's. The former acid-dropping crone is the veritable midwife of her community.

Ask her about any obscure piece of Wiccan trivia and she will give you reem after reem of useless information trapped inside that giant grey spider web she uses for a brain.

She know her tarot. She knows her herbs. She knows her candle rituals. She knows her marijuana. She has a black cat named demon fairy. And she delights to go to Friday evening Merry Meet where she and an alotment of her other washed up hippies meet to discuss how horrible Christians are.

2. The daughter figures. The plump, young broom riders are for the environment. They save whales. They read Harry Potter and Da Vinci Code 24 hours a day. They love Charmed, and Buffy. They are experts in Advanced Teen Wicca for Beginners, and thus, they have finished every prerequisite necessary for being a Grand High Priestess of the Alexandrian Gardernarian order of Feminist Druidesss Wittans. They are for animal rights until presented with a medium rare T bone steak. They get horrible marks in school, which they all blaim on Christian racisim against the fairy folk.

3. Then there's the Father figure. This varcarious excuse for a dad has no clue what is going on, nor does he care in the slightest. He must endure living with a coven of cackling witches. All he wants to know is if the bar can tack an extended tab.

And there you have it; a fine example of today's sophisticated, advanced pagan.

http://www.sixsixfive.com/collection/fatwiccans.jpg

truebeliever
11-01-2005, 04:00 AM
:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

You forgot Dr Phil.

truebeliever
11-01-2005, 04:05 AM
http://www.ama.com.au/web.nsf/home_ama_logo.jpg

Actually, i like that symbol.

The cross is equalateral and symbolises balance and wholeness. The staff and snake symbolise wisdom. Also of course, Asklepios, "the wounded healer" who is depicted with a snake coiled around his arm.

The staff is vertical and is symbolic of the masculine and consciousness and the highest spiritual values.

That is an EXTREMELY powerful symbol.

What a shame it's in the hands of a bunch of materialist c___s. Excuse my French but that is exactly what they are...barring the new breed coming through.

I remember my first inkling that Doctors were businessman first when I worked as a theater orderly during Uni...as soon as the patient was out cold, all they EVER discussed were their share portfolio's and i'm not exaggerating for effect.

Bouncer
11-01-2005, 11:06 AM
[quote]
igwt wrote:
Bouncer: -"...greek word for enchantment or witchcraft in the Bible is "pharmacopeia", the root of our modern word pharmaceutical..."

Another interesting point is that the symbol the medical and pharmacutical industry uses...
[quote\]

I've heard different interpretations of this particular icon; I think of the cadeuceus: it represents the bronze snake held up in the Sainai desert for the healing of the people, and in fact it was a prophetic figure of Christ crucified.

Perhaps the snake, as a pagan symbol, does not belong in medical iconography?

unknown
11-01-2005, 11:18 AM
truebeliever wrote:
:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

You forgot Dr Phil.









Hey Truebeliever:

"Like a rubber ball you come bouncing back to me"! La la la la la la!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You'll never leave CC. You're hooked!!!!!

unknown
11-01-2005, 11:25 AM
RE: Snake symbology

The snake also symbolizes rebirth. As he sheds from old skin to new.

Also, the symbology of wisdom through healing.

Bouncer
11-01-2005, 11:29 AM
Hmmm, a new light on an old viper.

Interesting that in "dealing with the world (those who by their spiritual blindness are dangerous)", we are cautioned to be "wise as snakes." Snakes are quiet, move by stealth, and would rather evade and escape than face an unknown force or number.

Oh, by the way, welcome back!

Insider
11-01-2005, 11:35 AM
We were right the smell gave her away.

Saturnino
11-01-2005, 08:09 PM
Wicca is the religion for frustrated feminist bitches who can't get a man who love them. "I am so special because I am a woman...I am so much in contact with Nature..." what B.S.
It is just the usual contact with spirit guides (demons) and stupid tricks that the demons allow them to perform to give them a feeling of power, like astral projection, distance vision and all this crap that boast the ego of these women.
In fact, Wicca starts like a nice thing but easily degenerates, like all occult religions, into a power battle, sending demons and curses against one another and falling more and more into depravity to gain more power. Soon they worshipping the horned god who is really Satan and falling into black magic, with the sacrifices and all.

Bouncer
11-02-2005, 10:43 AM
Well, if you consider the basics of the creation and fall, the first seduction on earth was the seduction of Eve by Lucifer. Eve bit the "apple" and at that moment her eyes were opened. She knew what she did and she knew the consequences, more or less.

Did she cry for God's forgiveness, or run to warn Adam not to make the same mistake?
No. She went to Adam and seduced him the same way.

And so it is that all through history, men are taught openly to wield their earthly authority with justice and mercy, but women are taught in secret how to wield their powers of seduction and manipulation. This is probably the basis of black magick.

igwt
11-02-2005, 08:38 PM
Bouncer wrote:
Well, if you consider the basics of the creation and fall, the first seduction on earth was the seduction of Eve by Lucifer. Eve bit the "apple" and at that moment her eyes were opened. She knew what she did and she knew the consequences, more or less.

Did she cry for God's forgiveness, or run to warn Adam not to make the same mistake?
No. She went to Adam and seduced him the same way.

And so it is that all through history, men are taught openly to wield their earthly authority with justice and mercy, but women are taught in secret how to wield their powers of seduction and manipulation. This is probably the basis of black magick.

Have you noticed that the bible doesn't say "apple" anywhere! Here is the quote:-

And the woman saw that the tree was good for food,
and it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the FRUIT thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

GENESIS 3:6

Bouncer
11-05-2005, 10:38 AM
Yeah, good point. The bright red apple often seen in parodies of Eden is luscious and inviting (for those of us who know what an apple is!), and so is used as a visual metaphor of what we can only imagine was on the original tree.

And another thing: I am too finished with all of this nonsense about the "apple" being sex. Sex? Really? Is that what was forbidden? Give me a break; God likes sex, He invented it, no? :-)

Barbara
11-05-2005, 10:56 AM
Sorry, guys, the "apple" as the fruit in Genesis as well as the story that goes along with it is a result of the Jews stay in Babylon.

It was partially fairy tale to introduce small children to the advent of man and his fall from grace with the gods.

Adults understand it on another and higher level, having nothing to do with fruit in it's literal sense or a tree. As with so much in the Bible, it depends on your level of understanding to determine what you get from what you read.

nohope187
11-05-2005, 09:49 PM
Bouncer wrote:
Give me a break; God likes sex, He invented it, no? :-)I'm not so sure cuz they were originally "naked and unashamed" so that would suggest that they were A-sexual before the fall. After the fruit was eaten, "their eyes were opened" and they recogized eachothers sexuality and felt the need to cover up. Notice after the fall it's recorded that "Adam knew his wife" and that it doesn't say anything about it before. But, I guess I can only speculate. :-P

madkhao
11-06-2005, 04:54 AM
I always wondered how old Adam was when he was formed.

Saturnino
11-06-2005, 05:14 AM
The Adam and Eve story is not about lust, but about obeying and believing in God or not. Lust was an after effect of the Fall. When we doubt God's love and good intentions towards us, we are easy prey to Satan's lies, the most evil being "you will be gods".

Since God created the universe and myself, and since I can't really breathe once without God's help, I am very satisfied in staying in my position of child of God and letting God be worshipped as He deserves. The fact that He loves me and gave me life is more than I deserve.
People who want to become gods should think about their presumption when they crap in the morning.

igwt
11-06-2005, 05:22 AM
Saturnino wrote:
The Adam and Eve story is not about lust, but about obeying and believing in God or not. Lust was an after effect of the Fall. When we doubt God's love and good intentions towards us, we are easy prey to Satan's lies, the most evil being "you will be gods".

Since God created the universe and myself, and since I can't really breathe once without God's help, I am very satisfied in staying in my position of child of God and letting God be worshipped as He deserves. The fact that He loves me and gave me life is more than I deserve.
People who want to become gods should think about their presumption when they crap in the morning.

Gold :lol:

redrat11
11-06-2005, 08:14 PM
Wiccans are some of the most brainwashed people on the planet, not seeing the (EVIL) behind their religion.

Insider
11-06-2005, 08:39 PM
Read the Song of Solomon.

igwt
11-07-2005, 02:00 AM
Insider wrote:
Read the Song of Solomon.

So descriptive...

truebeliever
11-07-2005, 04:26 AM
Who put the snake in the Garden?

Saturnino
11-07-2005, 08:02 AM
The snake was there as any other animal. Maybe Satan possesed the poor animal, who knows. What really is important is that Satan was around...even though he had rebelled against God, he was allowed the privileges of his former position as a chief cherubim. We can see that even in the story of Job, where Satan goes directly to God's throne to ask permission to afflict the man (this much later of course than the Adam story).
In fact, the Bibe tells us that Satan still today accuses people to God and uses his rights to play with them, as Prince of this world that he is. We gave him this right when Adam (who was the master of Eden) gave it up by disobeying God and following Satan's advice.
Jesus bought it back with his blood, in right, if not in fact yet. During the Tribulation, Satan will be cast out of heavens and will loose his access to God and His realm (Michael will kick his ass, see Revelation).
That will cause the beast to become really angry, knowing that his time is almost out, and he will go on destroying and killing everyone he can, especially the Christians.
The only protection we have now against these privileges of Satan (who really rules the world today) is to individually, personally, claim the protection of the blood of Christ in our lives.

Insider
11-07-2005, 08:17 AM
It wasn't a snake, but the shinning one, a beautiful creature that could be male or female named Satan or Lilith depending on the necessity.
Oh, and GOD put the snake or shinning one in the Garden.

igwt
11-07-2005, 08:31 AM
Insider wrote:
It wasn't a snake, but the shinning one, a beautiful creature that could be male or female named Satan or Lilith depending on the necessity.
Oh, and GOD put the snake or shinning one in the Garden.

Does anyone know if Satan can appear as a man, in our time?

Insider
11-07-2005, 08:40 AM
Yes, the Biblical Answer is no. Satan is held in check by Michael at the Moment. Satan is thrown out of Heaven and to the Earth at the Sixth Seal. This is explained in the Bible, not the churches.

igwt
11-07-2005, 09:32 AM
Insider wrote:
Yes, the Biblical Answer is no. Satan is held in check by Michael at the Moment. Satan is thrown out of Heaven and to the Earth at the Sixth Seal. This is explained in the Bible, not the churches.

So if one were to observe some one doing a very unnatural thing, one would presume the individual is possessed?

Insider
11-07-2005, 09:40 AM
I would consider many things including mental illness which the Bible differentiates from possession. Demons are the troops of Satan for me to say more of my opinion would cause the seriousness of the subject to diminish.

igwt
11-07-2005, 09:55 AM
When one observes an individual gliding for example?

Insider
11-07-2005, 10:03 AM
And so the subject diminishes.

madkhao
11-13-2005, 05:41 AM
http://www.theinsider.org/reports/medical-symbols/

Does the ancient symbolism employed by the institutions that control modern medicine reflect the influence of secret societies such as the Freemasons? In order to fully understand the esoteric significance of modern medical symbolism, such as the cross, or Ankh, or the serpents and staff of Moses, or the winged staff of Hermes, it is helpful to begin by understanding that all doctors swear to pagan gods.

The Hippocratic Oath, which is sworn by all doctors, begins with the invocation: "I swear by Apollo the Physician. By Aesculapius, Hygela and Panacea, and I take to witness all the gods and goddesses..."[1] Dr Robert Orr showed in 1993 that 100% of American medical schools administer some form of the Hippocratic Oath to graduates.[2]



Dr James Appleyard, Chairman of the World Medical Association's medical ethics committee, supports the modern use of the ancient Hippocratic oath as "the continuation of a statement of fundamental ethical principles that could be affirmed at graduation by doctors worldwide".[3]

The World Medical Association's logo[4] features a serpent wrapped around a staff, the symbol of the ancient Greek god Asklepios. Aesculapius, worshipped by the Greeks as the god of healing, who originated in ancient Egypt as Imhotep, high-priest, sage and minister to the pharaoh, Zoser. It is significant that this symbol is reminiscent of the Staff of Moses.[5] The World Health Organisation's logo[6] also contains the ancient religious symbol of the serpent and staff, which is superimposed over the United Nations emblem.

In fact, the medical establishment is steeped in ancient religious symbolism. The British Columbia Medical Association coat of arms[7] includes the Rod of Aesculapius, a golden griffin where the substance represents alchemy, a medieval knight's helmet, and an ancient Egyptian Ankh (Crux Ansata or Handled Cross). The Insider approves of their official motto: "Always seek the truth." Paramedics also use the symbol of staff and serpent in the internationally recognised paramedic symbol[8], also called The Star of Life[9]. The resemblence between this sign and the early Christian symbol of the Pax Christi (Chi-Rho)[10], a cross-like monogram for Christ in ancient Greek, may be significant.

The Wellcome Trust, a major medical charity, employs the winged staff and snakes of Hermes[11] as their official logo, and for no apparent reason there is a huge image of the ancient Egyptian religious symbols of the Udjat eye of Horus and the Winged Disc of Ra, etched into the glass above their entrance opposite Euston train station in the West End of London. The winged sun disc is an ancient symbol for the sun god, Ra. Well known examples of the winged solar disc symbol can be found in ancient Egyptian temples, for instance over the entrance to the Solar Temple of Amen-Ra at Karnak, or or over the Temple doorway in Medinet Habu on the West bank of Luxor.

The Royal Society of Medicine coat of arms[12] features the serpent of Moses on a Tau cross, and flowers which resemble the stylised Lotus frequently depicted in ancient Egyptian art. In this discussion about secret societies and the modern of ancient symbols it is pertinent that The Royal Society - the foremost scientific institution in the U.K., was founded by a prominent Freemason, Sir Robert Moray.[13]

John Robinson explains in his popular book on Freemasonry: "When Freemasonry came public in 1717 ... it appeared that the Royal Society was virtually a Masonic subsidiary, with almost every member and every founding member of the Royal Society a Freemason."[14] An article in the leading Masonic magazine, Freemasonry Today, echoes this and mentions that "many masons were also members of the Royal Society".[15] The Royal Society remains associated with British Freemasonry today.

The Red Cross was first associated with human welfare and medical help during the medieval crusades, when European Knights travelled overseas to help pilgrims and foreigners alike, such as the Knights of St John[16], the Knights Hospitaller, and the Knights Templar[17] which was the first organisation to officially adopt the red cross symbol.

The Knights Templar[18] has been operating in secret for centuries, and traditions and inner mysteries are connected with those of the secret society of Freemasonry[19].

truebeliever
11-13-2005, 07:10 AM
There is a fine line I find myself personally walking on subjects such as these. One is the tendency to "psychologalise" or be "reductionist" when faced with things of the "other world" which usually begins with..."oh thats nothing but...", or the opposite where there is a "over literalization" of images and stories.

If you are waiting for the horned one to appear in a rock and roll wrestling match with the Ark Angel Michael then you will be dissapointed. The devil is YOU when you are seperate from God. When the ego feels no need for the balancing effect of "reflection" and "doubt". Where "feeling", kept at bay by the arrogant ego, cannot balance an ego flapping about in the air completely distanced from the events the will of man creates every day both big and small.

For example, Robert McNamara is directly and indirectly responsible for the deaths of perhaps 4 million innocent men, women and children. Not bad going for the Supreme Rationalist of our time who now states with a tear in his eye that "the rational cannot save us". But according to him the U.N can. Any horns on him? Was he frothing at the mouth when he signed off on the firebombings of Japan. Nice boys from Minnesota one and all.

Satan resides in our political, financial and intellectual Elite who are so in love with their own rational intellects they intend on ridding us of that pesky God once and for all. With a sheer act of will and a rewriting of a Constitution or two. They are filled with Lucifers pride, the fallen star.

In large part the Churches have sealed their own fate as they became bastions of Earthly power and gave the peasants NO tools to know God and most of all what God wants with us in our time here. So now they tootle off to the Wicca Conventions or worship the State or are viaing for the Revoloution down at the Green Left meetings. All because the average Church will put you to sleep.

The material world in which we live is so dry and dead with the ousting of the Pagans and their every day experience of the Gods that people are looking EVERWHERE for a thrill whether it be getting off their heads on Meth and fucking ten people in a night or whichever form of depraved behaviour you can possibly think of. Anything to know they're alive.

The Kingdom Of God Is Within You. Christ knew it. When are the Churches going to give the people the tools to realise Christs most profound statement?

Or is being a good little boy and girl enough from the Churches? If all we want are good little girls and boys maybe people should convert to Islam. Keep your wife inline with the whippings eh Ahmed?

http://www.spaceandmotion.com/Images/Jung-1.jpgMans relation to God probably has to undergo a certain important change: Instead of the propitiating paraise to an unpredictable King or the childs prayer to a loving Father, the responsable living and fulfilling of the divine will in us will be our form of worship and commerce with God.

His goodness means grace and light and his dark side the terrible temptation of power.

Man has already receieved so much knowledge that he can destroy his own planet.

Let us hope that Gods good spirit will guide him in his decisions because it will depend upon mans decision whether God's creation will continue.

Nothing shows more drastically than this possibility how much of divine power has come within the reach of man.

C.G Jung. 1956

The dogma represents the soul more completely than a scientific theory, for the latter expresses and formulates the conscious mind alone. Furthermore, a theory can do nothing but formulate a living thing by abstract notions. The dogma, on the contrary, expresses aptly the living process of the unconscious in the form of the drama of repentance, sacrifice and redemption. It is rather astonishing, from this point of view, that the Protestant schism could not have been avoided. But since Protestism has become the creed of the adventurous Germanic tribes with their characteristic curiosity, acquisitiveness and recklessness, it seems to be possible that their peculiar character could not quite agree with the peace of the church, at least not for any length of time. It looks as if they were not quite prepared to have a process of salvation happen to them and for a submission to a deity crystalised in the magnificent structure of the church.

There was perhaps, to much of the Imperium Romanun or of the Pax Romana in the church, too much, at least for their energies that were and are still insufficiently domesticated.

It is quite likely that they were in need of an unmitigated and less controlled experience of God, as often happens to adventuress and restless people, too youthful for any form of conservatism or resignation. They removed therefore, the intercessation of the church between God and man, some more and some less. Owing to the abolition of protective walls the Protestant has lost the sacred images expressive of important unconscious factors, together with the ritual, which since time immemorial, has been a safe way of dealing with the unaccountable forces of the unconscious mind.

A great amount of energy thus became liberated and went instantly into the old channels of curiosity and acquisitiveness, by which Europe became the Mother of Dragons that devoured the greater part of the earth.

Since those days Protestantism has become a hotbed of schisms and at the same time, of a rapid increase of science and technics which attracted human consciousness to such an extent that it forgot the unnacountable forces of the unconscious mind.

The catastrophe of the great war and the subsequent manifestations of a profound mental disturbance were needed to arouse a doubt that everything was well with the white mans mind. When the war broke out we had been quite certain that the world could be righted by rational means. Now we behold the amazing spectacle of the States taking over the age old claim of theocracy, that is, of totality, inevitably accompanied by suppression of free opinion.

We see again people cutting each others throats to support childish theories of how to produce paradise on earth. It is not very difficult to see the powers of the underworld - not to say of hell - which were formerly more or less successfully chained and made serviceable in a gigantic mental edifice, are now creating, or trying to create, a State slavery and a State prison devoid of any mental or spiritual charm. There are not a few people, nowadays, who are convinced that mere human reason is not entirely up to the task of fettering the volcano.

This whole development is fate. I would not blame Protestantism or the Renaissance for it. But one thing is certain - that modern man, Protestant or not, has lost the protection of the ecclesiaticaql walls carefully erected and reinforced since Roman days, and on account of that loss has approached the zone of world destroying and world creating fire. Life has become quickened and intensified. Our world is permeated by restlessness and fear.

PSYCHOLOGY AND RELIGION.