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Veritas
09-27-2005, 07:05 AM
U.S. Has More Oil Than The Middle East. (http://www.emissourian.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=15146574&BRD=1409&PAG=740&dept_id=226963&rfi=6) ; But Tapping Vast Shale Deposits Poses Big Environmental Risks

If the tree huggers have their way we will all be sitting in caves eating grub worms before we use what we have right here to corner the world oil market.

Do you people want world peace? Want to end terrorism? Want to save Social Security?

Want to end to war in Iraq and bring a level of prosperity to this country we have even yet never seen?

Its to bad people. Our Big Mother says "NO!"

truebeliever
09-27-2005, 08:29 AM
There is no need for this shale. Vast reserves of oil exist in the States. Capped off long ago and more recently.

There are BIG environmental concerns with shale and tar sands.

Better people understand the mechanism of "oil" as "control" and "manufactured scarcity" designed to centralize power around the State.

Will post a Alex Jones interview with a "peak oil" debunker shortly.

Best.

09-27-2005, 08:39 AM
It just seems so simple to me.

If they control the resources, the control the people.

truebeliever
09-27-2005, 08:48 AM
Yeh, it is that simple.

Shannow
09-27-2005, 03:48 PM
a couple of right wingers on other boards have applauded the hoarding of "local" fuel sources while consuming those of other countries.

They beleive that the other coiuntries can run out, then the U.S. will crack their own reserves, and outlast the rest of us.

As to foreign debt...more fool those countries that swapped resources for Greenbacks, what incentive IS there to pay it back ?

psholtz
09-27-2005, 05:09 PM
The U.S. does not import oil from the Middle East, and Mideast oil is not strategic or important to U.S. energy policy.. rather the U.S. exports dollars to the Middle East, which - through a forced policy of petrodollar recycling - props up our otherwise unsustainable national debt.

The U.S. is also interested in a policy of "strategic denial" in the Mideast, i.e., even though we don't need that oil, we want to control it, so that we can control those who *do* need it... (most of the rest of the planet).

nomad
09-27-2005, 06:06 PM
BlueAngel wrote:
It just seems so simple to me.

If they control the resources, the control the people.

They control the money which allowed them

to control the resources which allow them

to control us, the media, medicine, education,

religion, etc ... they are tighening the noose

every day until you or your children will wake up

in a Nazi Germany situation.

truebeliever
09-27-2005, 09:08 PM
The U.S. does not import oil from the Middle East, and Mideast oil is not strategic or important to U.S. energy policy.. rather the U.S. exports dollars to the Middle East, which - through a forced policy of petrodollar recycling - props up our otherwise unsustainable national debt.

Partly true. The U.S imports about %20 of it's oil needs from Saudi? Point is, if the Saudi's ar'nt selling to other countries then other countries needs will affect the U.S's.

In the end the U.S needs no one and could walk away from it's debt tomorrow and suffer...nothing.

What will the Japs do? Tow Manhatten Island to Tokyo harbour as collatoral?

If the lender has no power to enforce the contract then it is the LENDER who is up shit creek without a paddle.

The U.S could close of it's border tomorrow and live like Kings. The U.S can feed itself 10 times over, has ALL the resources it needs to continue a high tech industrial base...

Money is worthless. The wheat in the fields is "worth" something. "Contracts" are worthless if you cant enforce them. That is the point of Thomas Barnetts concept of the new "Rule Set"...putting in place enforcable "rule sets" in countries to encourage anglo/u.s investment.

In the end...control of energy reserves is simply about "control". Which makes me wonder...if China and Japan (who are TOTALLY energy hamstrung) are such a threat to the anglo/u.s establishment, why ar'nt they persuing "free energy" or at least "nuclear fusion" technology? They have the cash. They have the technology. Where is it? Me thinks they all bow to a greater power.