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rushdoony
10-02-2005, 03:36 PM
9) Analyze the Female

This is an old practice used by the Hindu and Buddhist sages to help you see past the sexual allure of the female. There are many ways you can "analyze the female" until her bewitching impact just dies.


Realize how her youth gives her a fleeting allure; she'll only be that way a short time. In her springtime nature tries to get some new babies coming along, by making her look that way so that she can draw in foolish males. The world has plenty enough babies, and the thrill of sex with her will come and go, and leave you wasted. Visualize how much she'll sap your bank account, probably sue you some day, and rob you of both material and occult wealth. All for that pretty face that fades so fast. See her as a pretty flower that is poisonous. Here are some examples of how to analyze the female:


1) Age her in your mind. Imagine what her face will look 30 years from now. Picture her at 40, 50, 60, and so on. Imagine how much less sexy she'll be as an old hag. Think how she'll look as her eyes sink in a little, her cheeks sag, etc. Visualize her rear when it sags and gets flat; her breasts when they deflate and droop. She'll start stinking, and you'll have to smell that strong chemical she uses to cover it up. She's headed for death. She's a sure case of "bait and switch." See her laid out in the coffin some day. Realize that's where her body's heading. It can help a great deal if you can see a photo of an older female relative, such as her mother or a sister. The older the better. You'll be able to get a good sense of what she'll look like when she's older. Even ten years of age will take away most of the charm of a female in her teens or twenties. Think that this is what she is already, now.


2) Ponder why her red lips make you attracted, and why she likes to make her lips red: a) it conveys to your body that she is healthy and could bear strong young, b) Red lips suggest she is in a fit of passion (like a cat in heat) and feeling "sexy," the blood rushing to her face and lips. c) She wants to make you aware of her lips up above so that she can later get you interested in her less attractive "lips down below." You could only get interested in those in a state of madness; that is why she sets before you her upper lips. Framed by a pretty face, with cute talk coming from them, they seem interesting. But they are just two worms on a vicious hook. She paints her lips because she wants you really aware of "lips," to do that bait-and-switch on you.


3) Pink cheeks are the same. They make you think she has good circulation and is in good health, thus to make babies. Flush cheeks imply she is pure and sensitive; that she is capable of blushing, which makes you feel she is pure and innocent like a child. She knows you are attracted to that purity, so she paints on fake "blush" to make herself seem healthy; and innocent enough to blush. Before the proliferation of makeup, girls who wanted to attract used to pinch their cheeks to redden them, all for the same reasons of psycho-genetic manipulation of the gullible male. Even old women are trying to scam you with rouged up cheeks! (Men are in such a pathetic state today, even the driest old prunes think they can pull you.) Even if her blush is real, soon she'll lose her innocence, become hard and jaded, and pursue of pleasure, fame, money. Her desires will be insatiable. Her innocence will soon be lost. Then you won't find her attractive.


4) Her rounded rear and legs say: She has some fat in her to get through the winter; she can bear and feed some young 'uns. All her rounded parts are just fat deposits that tell your mammalian mind that she is fit to bear young and get through a winter and nurse them. That's why your body gets a charge out of it. Your body is set on stupid mode when it sees her rounded fatty deposits.


5) Why has the female smeared that glistening gloss all over her lips? To make them seem wet, like the lips down below. Also it brazenly suggests semen, so she is conveying to you the sodomy sin which hooks men like fish on a jagged hook. See how awful she is? So brazenly she tries to pull you down to the lowest sexual ideas! Why has she made her nails long and red? To make you think of piercing, and blood. Or black: She wants you to know she is wicked; she is open to evil. See how easy it is to correctly deconstruct the female? It's all really obvious, it's embarrassing. She should be so embarrassed. Why does she wear high heels? Besides trying to fake the stature of a man, it makes her rear end sashay in a "sexy" (lust-inducing) way when she walks. Just like female fish waggle things about when trying to attract the male.


6) Realize her body is full of the various cruds that makes up the human body (this is a favorite of the Asian sages). Excrement is sitting in her, all sorts of fatty deposits, weird impurities and drugs, gristle and bone, etc. She has bacteria in her mouth, and when she wakes up it stinks. Even if she seems pretty, there is even more putrid bacteria in her lower orifices. She farts and defecates just like any animal. Try to visualize her skeleton beneath the skin, muscle, fat and fascia. See, she's not really a turn-on after all.


7) When you have the misfortune to see a media-slut staring at you from the cover of a supermarket magazine, or in some photo or video, it can be especially fun to deconstruct her because she is so obvious. Why does she wear that tossled-haired style? She wants to suggest to you that she has just climbed out of her bed; that you are right in her intimate quarters, that she just came from a romp in bed. Why does she wear underthings like slips as outer clothes? To make you feel that she is already undressed in front of you. Why is the little tart showing us her tongue, or even sticking it out? Women like to show their tongues to subconsciously suggest to you her similar epithelial tissues down below, and to make you think about the possibility of it licking your member. How gross the are! Why is she parting her mouth slightly and showing a bit of her tongue? Same reason. Why does J. Lopez and B. Spears pump and grind their pelvis that way? It's obviously sexual motion; she is simulating copulation. Why is she sitting with her legs spread out that way? Doesn't she know it is crude, unladylike, and oh so obvious? Men rarely spread their legs in photos. She is "doing the Flynt" for us. How gross! (It's incredible how many actresses have done "the Flynt" for the camera.) Why is the media-whore bending down as if she is on all fours? She wants you to think of doing the "doggy style" thing. Geez. How low can she get? Why is she holding that phallic object near her mouth? Obvious. Why does the actress from "Sex In The City" wear a dress with the Empire State Building emblazoned up across her front. Phallic suggestions again. Why does she wear that barbaric piercing? It suggests "I've been pierced," or "I can be pierced." Why is her waistline so low? Obvious -- she is tempting you, teasing you by getting close showing her absurd pubiscus. And so on and so forth.


Get to be an expert at deconstructing female attractions in this way. Analyze her until you see she is just a pile of bones. It will help a lot.


You can add to this the fact that she is probably vainer than a super model, takes for granted that you are a dog she can lead around on a string, is morally compromised, ethically dangerous, culturally bankrupt, philosophically impaired, seething with desires for fame and power, and about as deep as an "Archie" comic book. She will leave you as soon as she gets bored, or sees a cuter face, or a bigger wallet.


Women with a lust problem can apply these same ideas to deconstructing the male body if they please.

All this gives you vairagya, or dispassion. Vairagya (dispassion) is the opposite of passion. One needs vairagya toward the female in order to get free of sex addiction. One needs vairagya toward all worldly thrills in order to get samadhi and enlightenment. Getting this dispassion toward the female breaks the Gordian knot of addiction to all the world. With vairagya toward the female, you can get vairagya toward all false pleasures. So the above exercises are a very great work.





10) Understand Your Own Psychology;
Know Your Special Vulnerability "Buttons"


A set of psychological circumstances often acts as a prelude to sex desire. Seeing sexy stimulation is the big obvious one, and we have dealt with that one. But inner emotional conditions put a man in a state where he wants to seek out the sex thrill. By learning about your worst triggers you can go far toward conquering illicit lust.

For many, feelings of depression, guilt, or shame are the trigger. We then use the sex thrill as a mood-altering distraction or false "medication" to cover our inner pain. Overcoming those feelings of depression or guilt then will go a long way toward freeing you from sex addiction. Meditation is one of the ways one can successfully fight depression. Doing your duty as much as possible is the best way to fight feelings of guilt.

Sometimes anger is involved; we are pissed off at a situation, and this morphs into depression or shame. This is a strong setup to make a man want sex. We use it as a drug to dilute the negative feelings with something positive.

My biggest "trigger" is when I feel I should celebrate because something has gone well or I have received very good news. There is a "spring fever" feeling that affects any man at that time. When you feel that nature is supporting you, "fruit is on the vine," and "the harvest is in" -- it strikes a primal nerve toward procreation. Your body and spirit say: "Nature's bounty is in; you are supported. You can expand a little now. You can afford to have children." There is the added dimension that I feel I deserve a reward for my good outcomes. This trigger is my worst enemy. But when we slip and Lose Out under this positive influence, the result is just the same. We feel just as foolish and filled with intelligent regret.

Another setup is simple curiosity. "I wonder what those fools are doing now?" Just bored moments when you feel a desire for some kind of thrill to break some monotony. Or, "I wonder how bad the porn is now? Maybe I should do some research to see how corrupt they are getting." This kind of curiosity is a sure trap and "kills the cat." A thousand baths won't make you feel clean again.

Analyze yourself whenever you slip, and get familiar with the inner setups that make you trip. When they start developing, reorient yourself, break the pattern, and disperse those emotional setups.


11) Connect with Men Who Practice Moral Restraint and Celibacy
Whatever and whoever you hang out with, you become like that. It happens in imperceptible ways, and even on a subtle plane. Associations and environment are a stronger influence than willpower for most. Develop a cadre of enlightened men for friends. You can certainly write me here at celibacy.info. (letters "at" celibacy.info) Talk about these ideals with other men who you feel can handle it. Socialize especially with any men who are consciously strong in this area, and avoid men who don't get it. When I hear men telling dirty jokes, I excuse myself or turn and talk to someone else. Avoid men who think the male is destined to be the thrall of woman, and who think it is an honor to lose their power and divinity for a moment of crass pleasure. Don't even try to argue with them. Direct them to www.celibacy.info or other good resources. Then they can be REALLY "cutting edge."


This site, and material like this, represents the only real revolution occurring on the planet. It represents spiritual revolution, material revolution, and social revolution at its highest. Anything else going on in the world today, or on the internet, is small potatoes by comparison. That is what I say. That is what I say, friend. This is the cutting edge of the cutting edge. Yet this knowledge will never lose its power or creative efficacy.


That's all for now.


Keep it in! Become a sage. Become great.


Blessings and many saints for our nation,
Julian Lee


CELIBACY.INFO



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IN FUTURE NEWSLETTERS:

Some observations about men and women:
How the male sexual addiction to the female changes everything in society.
How women change, and how society changes, when men become their sexual slaves.
(The hubris and self-absorption of today's females; their pathetic male worshippers, how it is damaging all levels of society. Test Question: How did the female end up worshipping herself?)


Rampant Sexual Molestation of the Hapless Visually-Oriented Male:
Why are Britney Spears and Madonna not in prison yet for sexually molesting so many young and vulnerable males, as well as corrupting so many young children?
http://celibacy.info/CelibacyNL02.html

10-02-2005, 08:17 PM
"Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire [shall be] to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee." (Gen. 3:16)

This should really be translated as, "and thy lust for domination shall be directed toward thy husband, but still shall he have mastery over thee."

When the knowledge of good and evil came into the world it destroyed natural law by dividing will against itself. The man is the hierarchical authority over woman.

God first
Christ second
Man third
Woman forth

If a woman is bent on evil, she will not live in natural order. She will always be bent on dominating men, because she senses truly that man is her hierarchical master.

In short, if men are to have any hope, then they must 'strap on a pair' and be a Man!

If women are still bent on rebellion, then they will be crushed under the foot of Men. We will not stand for their witchcrafts and manipulations borne out of their ravening weakness and unbridled lust for domination.

If a woman will not live as a woman, then she will be obliterated by equalibrium. We are men. The rule is ours. And we WILL NOT give it to another!

rushdoony
10-02-2005, 08:42 PM
Wow, that is amazing. You've got quite some smarts
Fra_nothing.
Thanks for the support.

By the way what's for breakfast tomorrow morning?
Nails? :~)

10-02-2005, 08:48 PM
That all depends on what SHE cooks.

Ozziecynic
10-03-2005, 06:28 AM
:-( The womens liberation movement in the 1960-70s what else!. As soon as young women started going to Universities in Australia on mass they started to see men as an optional extra not a necessity they do not see the Patriarchial family as a neccessity either.
I am 30 and have come across many young women at university here in au and found them to bisexual by preference after a great deal of inquisition in which ofcause i did not judge them upfront for it, but i sure as hell will judge them here.

It seems most of the young to middlle aged women in au would like to do nothing for the rest their lives in terms of relationships except have temporary flings at Dance clubs with amphetamines and gay males and lesbian friends. It seems many of them are prepared to go on in this vein of Lifestyle forever without any thought for their maternal biological clock.By the time they reach their thirties they are usually not fit for marriage anyway even if they have decided to turn over a new leaf.They usually have herpes and all others kinds of venerial dieases. :-( :-?

While caucasian women in australia tend not to be breeding alot these days the majority of the population in the big cities like sydney are mainly either asian (mostly chinese) or Middle eastern (mainly lebanese arabs) this means any new births are usually non caucasian in Australia, meantime the native anglo population stagnates in its birthrate, mainly due to feminism and other liberal ideas that women are taught mainly in universities but also via pop culture both private and government Media, that Patriarchial family is not the goal of their lives any more!.

I know personally I have reason for being single at thirty in Australia.And its a good one so far as i am concerned it is the vanity and poor quality of women not just around my own age but also in their 20s after all i dont really fancy marrying an asian or arab women or god forbid jewess these sadly seem to be the options in a multicultural pot like sydney Australia!. :-( :-?

10-03-2005, 06:40 AM
Wow...I love the internet. You can talk to people who live 40 billion miles away and still feel like they are sitting in your living room.

You sound like you live in 'mer'ca!

Don't feel bad. Women are so socially programmed these days it is beyond hope. Seriously. People seem to think that there is 'always hope'.

Let me lay it on the line for you people. Sometimes things can get so bad that it is beyond hope. And gen-X women are beyond hope.

They have no idea how manipulated, controlled and repressed they actually are. And all the while they thought they were being liberated.

'I am STROOOONG, I am am INVINCIBLE!

I AM WOMAAAAN!'

Ridiculous.

Women these days are not strong. They are not invicible. And they are not women.

Barbara
10-03-2005, 11:11 AM
So sorry, "gentlemen", to plunk a turd in your punch bowl at your pity party, but what you are experiencing you have the "man" in the mirror to thank for a great deal of your hardships as well as those who came before you.

For a woman to be a woman, first a man must be a man. He is the warrior and protector, she the child-bearer and nurturer. When you great knuckle-draging warriors go chasing off after a younger "piece," and leave the female with 2-3 or more small children who will grow up in poverty while you and the new chick spend your time dodging child support payments, I don't call that being a man.

Look around, how many instances of this have you seen in your relatively young lives? How many of you come from that background?

No, I don't like what has happened to the young women of today OR the young men. Both groups have been sorely manipulated by the same group of Social Engineers to bring about just the results you have so accurately described.

To destroy any species all you have to do is foul their nesting ground. Don't look now but there is shit in the nest of the hertosexual MALE AND FEMALE, especially you white guys. You are the ultimate threat to the One World Order elite. You always have been and for that they intend to destroy you by any means.

Notice, they included women as a minority when passing laws either "protecting" or favoring certain groups. That is a dead giveaway. Divide and conquor. Set one group against the other. In this case, divide and destroy. Has it sunk in yet that your group is the ONLY one without a social (or otherwise) "safety net?" You are all walking around with a bulls eye on your back.

Besides loosing many generations of the "best and brightest" to bankers' and industrialists' wars, there is a generation being lost today that was never threatened by this before and I am referring to pornography. So many young men today can no longer "get it on" with women because their brain is mush from watching hours on end of this soul-destroying poison while practicing self-gratification. That means no reproduction; sad, but not altogether a bad thing. You need a healthy mind and body to establish and maintain a healthy relationship and rear healthy children.

Abortion has left many of the "thirty-something" females unable to reproduce. It's sad but not altogether a bad thing. Again, it takes a healthy mind and body to establish and maintain a healthy relationship and rear healthy children.

There is no way to unscramble scrambled eggs, there has been a lot of damage done to Generation Xers and Yers, I guess you could call them. My best suggestion is to get out of the cities to look for a wife, someone considerably younger than you. When you find someone who meets your criterior, MAKE A LIFE-LONG COMMITMENT TO HER.

A long-practiced double standard - it's alright for guys to screw around on their wives but it is NOT alright for wives to screw around on their husbands - made women a perfect target for these Social Engineers.

It took WWII to get women out of the home and into jobs while their men were overseas wiping out the root stock of their own race. Another great move towards destroying the nesting ground.

Learn the difference between "need" and "want" so that the family can live on one income, yours.

Love each other, but just as importantly RESPECT each other and the roles that nature intended for the two of you to play. Both of you love and nurture your children, do not turn the role of educating them over to government schools. Teach THEM respect but first and foremost be a role model in the way their Father and Mother respect each other.

Never go to bed at night after having an argument without finding some common ground on which to stand and say "I love you." With the way things are going, it may be the last chance you get.

Start with a plan and some mutually agreeable ground rules, sort of like a prenuptual agreement, and refer to them when things get rough. What a great opportunity to share your philosophy of life with another.

Good luck and God (whoever or whatever he/she/it may be) bless. Remember, if it was easy, everybody could do it.

:-)

10-03-2005, 06:30 PM
Sorry, Barbara. I ain't buyin' it.

Everything, everything, EVERYTHING is the fault of white MALES these days. EVERYTHING.

THAT is the very crap, I no longer have a shred of tolerance for. No, there's something else going on.

What if most of the problems today, including marital infidelity, are a direct result women not stepping up to the plate?

Women have such unrealistic expectations of men, it is almost indiscribable.

Think I'm just making this stuff up? What if the enemies of western civilization knew something about women that women won't admit -- they are far more gullible then even the most gullible man. Maybe women aren't half as invincible, liberated, or 'successful' as their narcissicistic self-love believes.

Maybe the gorilla's that women have been 'liberated' from were the people they really had a great need for -- men, the other half of the human race. And maybe women need to look in the mirror themselves and understand that not every damn thing that happens in this world is the fault of THE WHITE MAN!!! You racist, sexist, biggot!

I want you to read every last word of the following document: Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars

http://www.akasha.de/~aton/swfqw.html

10-03-2005, 06:47 PM
Who is making the vast majority of Pornography that works as a corrupting influence on men?

Women!

Who wants to have equal roles in terms of 'sameness' as men in the nuclear family?

Women!

Who bombards males, especially white males, everyday with how repressive they are and have been, while never LIFTING A FINGER to help men in their struggle?

Women!

Who promotes as 'oh, so cute' the Brittany Spears SLUT-WHORE look, which works to create over-desire in males and causes them to see women as ONLY sex objects and then blames men for SEEING women as sex objects?

WOMEN! WOMEN! WOMEN!

Who demands to have equal roles in leadership even though nature screams out that they are not naturally inclined with such ability?

Women!

Who attacks Christianity without pause because the Bible teaches that a woman does not have hierarchical authority in the church as does a man?

Women!

Who uses men as boy-toys and then throws them away like trash when they are finished with them?

Women!

Who accuses men of having 'ego' problems, when their egos at times make LUCIFER himself look humble?

Women!

No, dear Barbara. You ain't slipping out of this that easily.

Who blaims men when nature has gone insane because women having forgotten ALL THEIR RESPONSIBILITY; have forgotten that they were created as a suitable HELPER for men, and have become his most asinine bane?

Women!

igwt
10-03-2005, 10:31 PM
rushdoony wrote:
9) Analyze the Female...

7) When you have the misfortune to see a media-slut staring at you from the cover of a supermarket magazine,...


AWESOME 8-)

DarkChilde3D
10-03-2005, 11:19 PM
I must say that I am thouroughly enjoying both sides of this debate. Each response presents sound arguments.

However, women have turned into these 'sluts' like Brittany because of the 'liberation' for a simple reason. Us men had not shown them the love and care they desired during the decadent times leading up to the liberation movement. So, the women of the world had to seek this love amongst themselves.

Women, in this day and age have turned into the same pigs that men are, and unfortunately, the laws have proverbially removed the mens balls from between their legs . . . and men are powerless against the zero tolerance laws.

However, whether or not the zero tolerance laws were to apply, it is not the right to beat one's wife that would solve and bring peace to the battle of the sexes. Men and women must find a way to love each other. When love is there, both hearts soften up toward one another.

When the hearts soften, the man WANTS to protect and provide, and the woman WANTS to raise a family. A man WILL sacrifice the hunt of a nubile female for the arms of his wife if he so loves her, and the woman will make the sacrifice and raise the kids if she loves him. This theory also has a flaw in it, read on.

In order for the woman to want to stay home to raise the kids, she must have her instinct to find that man that CAN provide for her. In a world where outrageous pricing and ever deflating wages mean that the man and woman must share the responsibility of providing, it makes perfect sense that the instincts of the woman turn into that of those of the man.

In effect, both of you are neither right, nor wrong, while both being wrong and right. In other words, there is no answer that can be sought out by fighting amongst yourselves . . . rid the world of the cold corporate machine that feels nothing but its belly-bank account getting bigger or smaller, you will rid the world of greed. The greed of the corporation spews ads that make all of us feel greed as well.

It is the greed of the man that wants the younger female on the cover of a magazine or a porno . . . which are produced by corporations . . . that has distanced the man from the woman.

It is the greed of the woman that wants eternal youth as seen on the cover of a magazine or a porno . . . which are produced by corporations . . . that has turned the woman into the hunter she is today.

The seven deadly sins are all brought forth from corporations . . . lust from the entertainment industry . . . avarice from the magazines that dictate to you who the perfect woman is since you are old enough to understand . . . envy from the media that tells you exactly how much Trump or Gates made that day . . . anger for the prices you must pay just to feed your family and get your car to and from work . . . sadness in the realization that no matter how hard you bust your ass you can only manage to make ends meet by a mere margin, if that . . . gluttony from the so-called food they feed you that has an additive to make you more hungry.

Stop this fighting. It will not solve anything.

10-03-2005, 11:32 PM
DarkChilde3D wrote:
I must say that I am thouroughly enjoying both sides of this debate. Each response presents sound arguments.

However, women have turned into these 'sluts' like Brittany because of the 'liberation' for a simple reason. Us men had not shown them the love and care they desired during the decadent times leading up to the liberation movement. So, the women of the world had to seek this love amongst themselves.

Women, in this day and age have turned into the same pigs that men are, and unfortunately, the laws have proverbially removed the mens balls from between their legs . . . and men are powerless against the zero tolerance laws.

However, whether or not the zero tolerance laws were to apply, it is not the right to beat one's wife that would solve and bring peace to the battle of the sexes. Men and women must find a way to love each other. When love is there, both hearts soften up toward one another.

When the hearts soften, the man WANTS to protect and provide, and the woman WANTS to raise a family. A man WILL sacrifice the hunt of a nubile female for the arms of his wife if he so loves her, and the woman will make the sacrifice and raise the kids if she loves him. This theory also has a flaw in it, read on.

In order for the woman to want to stay home to raise the kids, she must have her instinct to find that man that CAN provide for her. In a world where outrageous pricing and ever deflating wages mean that the man and woman must share the responsibility of providing, it makes perfect sense that the instincts of the woman turn into that of those of the man.

In effect, both of you are neither right, nor wrong, while both being wrong and right. In other words, there is no answer that can be sought out by fighting amongst yourselves . . . rid the world of the cold corporate machine that feels nothing but its belly-bank account getting bigger or smaller, you will rid the world of greed. The greed of the corporation spews ads that make all of us feel greed as well.

It is the greed of the man that wants the younger female on the cover of a magazine or a porno . . . which are produced by corporations . . . that has distanced the man from the woman.

It is the greed of the woman that wants eternal youth as seen on the cover of a magazine or a porno . . . which are produced by corporations . . . that has turned the woman into the hunter she is today.

The seven deadly sins are all brought forth from corporations . . . lust from the entertainment industry . . . avarice from the magazines that dictate to you who the perfect woman is since you are old enough to understand . . . envy from the media that tells you exactly how much Trump or Gates made that day . . . anger for the prices you must pay just to feed your family and get your car to and from work . . . sadness in the realization that no matter how hard you bust your ass you can only manage to make ends meet by a mere margin, if that . . . gluttony from the so-called food they feed you that has an additive to make you more hungry.

Stop this fighting. It will not solve anything.

Bullshit! They ain't suppressed! They are a bunch of whiny-woo, bitchs bent on rebellion!

10-03-2005, 11:52 PM
I'll tell you something else too...Women keep on telling men how bad they've been, how unloving, how repressive, and men might just act on it.

I promise you, there is a HUGE backlash on the horizen.

If the snot nosed social services brats don't start leaving men the HELL ALONE we might just become everything they always told us we were.

They're going to get the living crap knocked out of them if they don't shut that big fat YAPPER OF THEIRS!

10-04-2005, 12:43 AM
I know that the New World Order began the 'women's liberation movement'. I'm fully aware of the facts.

Sorry, I demand more from women than to so easily be led about by the nose. It's time for women to get Unstupid.

But, if women keep on treating men like imbiciles, if the sit-coms and reality tv shows keep portraying Dad as 'a drooling nit-wit' (like Ozzy) who can't even hold an intelligent conversation; if the women ACTUALLY believe that men and women have equal power, then something is going to happen to 'test the theory'.

Ever see a female lion try to fight a male lion?

Yeah. It'll be something like that. We'll see how much 'girl power' they really have.

Then, maybe, just maybe this foolishness will end.

The problem is that women are going to have to be given an object lesson in understanding how much more powerful a man is than she.

Folks, this ain't Buffy the Vampire Slayer. In real life Buffy would have gotten her blonde, Abercromby ass kicked in round 1.

Ozziecynic
10-04-2005, 01:27 AM
:-? Barb:
For a woman to be a woman, first a man must be a man. He is the warrior and protector, she the child-bearer and nurturer. When you great knuckle-draging warriors go chasing off after a younger "piece," and leave the female with 2-3 or more small children who will grow up in poverty while you and the new chick spend your time dodging child support payments, I don't call that being a man.

Well thanks for all those presumptions about some, aussie male you dont even know from Adam.
First of all if you have problems with the kind of males that drag their knuckles on the ground as you say then cc is the not best place to find your high achieving, romantic, finese driven lambogini driving soul mate or toyboy.

May I suggest the male go getters on "The Apprentice" or one of the myriad of high Class Eligable Bachelor reality programs coming out of the US that i have seen here our tv you know the ones where all the candidates go away to be interviewd so the veiwers get to see what they like about the most eligable toffy nose in private before they have their first date!.

Second of all you say you are looking for warriors, ah but didnt you just say you werent interested in any males that have their knuckles dragging, I mean most warrior males do tend to drag their knuckles a little especially depending on what epoch we talking about here!. :lol:
I think you are deluded and looking for some level of perfection you will never find in any modern male,although you may find plenty of warriors amongst blue collar males and plenty of senous new age men among the professional classes to find a man with the qualities of both is really just a figment of your imgination I am afraid.You appear to be the perfect example of what Makow is talking about!Maybe what your really seeking is zena warrior Princess :lol: :lol:

Barbara
10-04-2005, 03:57 PM
Fra_nothing and Ozziecynic, don't quit your day jobs (assuming either of you have one), you will never make it at the Commedy Club. Your pathetic attempts at humor do nothing to make up for your singular lack of intellect or your inability to understand the written word.

My earlier post was not meant to be taken as applicable to either of you personally but, from your reaction, it must have hit fairly close to home. Please, your squealing is most un-manly. You obviously do not want balance, you want sympathy. To facilitate that end, please find any good English dictionary and look between shit and syphilis, the former which fills your heads and you mistake for brains and the latter which goes far to explain your non-existant love lives as is indicated by your ranting.

Strangely enough, I always thought of Australian men as being the epitome of manliness. With all the hardship that went along with settling a hostile new land I would have thought all the cry babies had been weeded out. Thank you both for disabusing me of my illusions.

A word or two of advice, not that you have the wherewithall to take it, lose at least 75 pounds each and move out of your mums' houses. It will do wonders for your self esteem and perhaps allow you to stop blaming your sad state of affairs on women. Be first and second on the list to receive a personality transplant the minute they become available.

Sorry, none of these suggestions will help you get dates because I am virtually certain you are both so homely your faces would raise blisters on a brass monkey's posterior.

You bore me so I will bid you both adieu.

10-04-2005, 04:27 PM
You cannot include the entire female species in your portrait of women.

Nor, can you include the entire male species in your portrait of men.

THIS IS JUST WRONG!!!

Your brush is painting too broad of a picture and, in reality, there are still many loving relationships that exist between man and woman with each equally contributing to the balance and equilibrium of the nuclear family.

In these times, it is indeed difficult for this to be the majority of the case. In order to fulfill desire of a comfortable life and secure future, women in many cases, must work outside the home. Sometimes, this is a hardship and most women would, in a perfect world, I believe, prefer to care and nurture their husband and children if this were not cast in negative light.

Women were conditioned through the movement to believe that unless they were as strong or stronger than men they would be dependant upon them and this was cast in negative light.

This also helped to break up marriages and create an atmosphere of females looking to females for validation and understanding believing men incapable of connecting with us emotionally, physically, etc. once we obtained independence financially.

Drugs have helped to create tension within a family and rip them apart.

I believe many men have been portrayed as sport's fanatics, cheaters and liars. But, I would not include all men in this picture.

Women/young girls come to believe through Hollywood that unless a man is wealthy, he is not powerful or strong and unless a female is perfect, she will never acquire a wealthy, strong or powerful man.

Please read Dr. Makow's current article and enlighten yourselves as to the "orchestration" that has been perpetuated upon both sexes by the "powers that be" in order to affect the attitudes that some on this thread have displayed regarding women and men in general.

I believe in men and I believe they are capable of being there for women emotionally, psychologically, financially and, yes, sexually regardless of her power outside or inside the home.

What's this CRAP, FRA, about women making most of the pornography!!

I don't buy it!!

BLAME it on Hollywood!!!

10-04-2005, 05:08 PM
Fra,

"whatever SHE is cooking."

How 'bout, something along the lines of the following:

Whatever my lovely wife is preparing for dinner. When my husband walks in from work and smells my spaghetti sauce on the stove, he says, "I smell love."

Not, whatever SHE is cooking!!

10-04-2005, 06:01 PM
Barbara wrote:
Fra_nothing and Ozziecynic, don't quit your day jobs (assuming either of you have one), you will never make it at the Commedy Club. Your pathetic attempts at humor do nothing to make up for your singular lack of intellect or your inability to understand the written word.

My earlier post was not meant to be taken as applicable to either of you personally but, from your reaction, it must have hit fairly close to home. Please, your squealing is most un-manly. You obviously do not want balance, you want sympathy. To facilitate that end, please find any good English dictionary and look between shit and syphilis, the former which fills your heads and you mistake for brains and the latter which goes far to explain your non-existant love lives as is indicated by your ranting.

Strangely enough, I always thought of Australian men as being the epitome of manliness. With all the hardship that went along with settling a hostile new land I would have thought all the cry babies had been weeded out. Thank you both for disabusing me of my illusions.

A word or two of advice, not that you have the wherewithall to take it, lose at least 75 pounds each and move out of your mums' houses. It will do wonders for your self esteem and perhaps allow you to stop blaming your sad state of affairs on women. Be first and second on the list to receive a personality transplant the minute they become available.

Sorry, none of these suggestions will help you get dates because I am virtually certain you are both so homely your faces would raise blisters on a brass monkey's posterior.

You bore me so I will bid you both adieu.

Pure humorless sophistry. Just another example that women these days do not have the ability to take an objective look at themselves.

You are brainwashed, Barbara. You are part of the Matrix. You are another Smith, and another brick in the wall.

One might see your reference to the knuckle dragging men as simple humor. It isn't. That's really how you see them.

Smug racist, sexist, biggotry in every way, Barbara. Now go watch Lifetime television and do your Jane Fonda workout.

DarkChilde3D
10-04-2005, 06:36 PM
The point I am trying to make is that the two sexes must come to an agreement with each other. Let's say, just for argument's sake, that us men DID revolt and beat the women of the world into submission. . . the only thing that's going to end up happening is the women beating us down later on . . . it doesn't matter what the method is, it will happen. Look at what happened already.

I admit, what is going on right now is not fair to men . . . but, like in all other cases of unfairness among the masses, it was the terrible few that ruined it for the rest of us. Think of it like Seargant Hartman from Full Metal Jacket making the entire squad to push-ups over the fat prick having the jelly donut in his footlocker. That's how it is, be it fair or not. Nobody ever said life was fair, and as long as people keep fighting, an agreement will never be reached.

And if anywone else thinks this is bullshit . . . look at what has happened throughout the world since the dawn of history. COnquored nations always rise up to fight in another war.

And I'm quite tired of us all killing each other. Lets focus on the assholes who are un-justly sitting on the top of the proverbial mountain . . . they made it REAL easy for us to turn on each other.

WE MUST WORK TOGETHER, DAMMIT!

And just to let you know that I'm not some feminist pussy . . . there are women out there that love this power they have WAY too much . . . but there are also women out there that have been saved by this system as well. Either way, both sides suffer.

Arjuna
10-04-2005, 06:42 PM
Henry Makow wrote an article on celibacy. He recommends Julian Lee's website (http://www.celibacy.info/).

Managing the Male Sex Drive (http://www.savethemales.ca/000535.html)

SUBLIMATION

Being human is a spiritual discipline. It means holding our behaviour accountable to our ideals and evolving morally. Let's catch ourselves when we look at women lasciviously. There is a difference between that and admiring their sex appeal, beauty and grace.

Holding ourselves accountable requires will power. We are the product of our thoughts. The thought is father of the deed. We must control our thoughts and the stimuli we allow.

One acquaintance doesn't masturbate very often. "Why stoke the fires?" he says. He keeps his mind off sex and focuses on more exciting pursuits.

This is called sublimation. The prodigious American writer Upton Sinclair (1878-1968) wrote in his Autobiography (1962):

My chastity was preserved at the cost of much emotional effort...What did I get in return for this? I got intensity and power of concentration; these elements in my make-up were the product of my effort to resist the tempter.

I learned to work fourteen hours a day at study and creative effort because it was only by being thus occupied that the craving for woman could be kept out of my soul. I recited the Wisdom of Solomon: "he that ruleth his spirit is greater than he that taketh a city." (p. 46)

55132
10-04-2005, 06:53 PM
Barbara

We have all been lied too by the culture managers. You have to understand that no matter how much the social engineers tinker the cannot undo what is basic in human nature.

Yes they can manipulate us into thinking almost anything but they cannot make us understand the consequences.

The sense that there is something wrong with us or with others, that feeling that we cannot understand is the real us trying to gasp reality. We have been programed to believe things that are convenient to the powers that be.

We confuse history with the memory of films we have seen. We believe what we are shown daily on the tube or by print or radio.

The music we hear is their prime agent of brain washing just think of those lyrics entering into are brains through the ipod while we work at something else, not bothering to censor them.

All this slowly sinks in if we are not aware. Just think that we now have over 3 generations that have been bombarded since birth with memes.

Feminism has been the most sophisticated and powerful meme of them all. IT has made spinsters of potentially great mothers. it has destroyed families and is on the verge of destroying civilization.

You must understand that there are consequences to everything. Men know this and are willing to accept it when their choice has been based on thought. The problem is that most women base their logic on emotion and emotions are fleeting specially in women

If women want to live by the feminist creed fine but they must understand that it will have its consequences. Things like free sex to men or women, non working relationships, probably no
children, dying in war... Why because what they believe is totally against the best in nature.

So Barbara its your decision to wake up or not but don't blame the men.

Have you ever thought a thought on thought

DarkChilde3D
10-04-2005, 06:57 PM
It really sounds like we are being exterminated on another level, here. Has anyone really considered the possibility of other-worldly life? If God made us, surely he could have made others that he chose not to tell us about.

God did create nature and 'survival of the fittest' and all that . . .

Anyone?

10-04-2005, 07:06 PM
Sexual images are everywhere!

And, of course, this to the detriment of both men and women.

Women and men feeling inferior and being "conditioned" to believe that their only worth is to please sexually, to look sexual, to act sexual, to talk sexual, to be SEXUAL. This is their role in society. SEX SLAVES!!!

This is all men want, or so women are being "brainwashed" to believe through television programming, MTV., etc. This is all women want (Desperate Housewives), as well.

Being faithful, as well, has been downgraded. Almost to the point of accepting that if you are married, your spouse will stray.

Sexual programming in full swing here, guys and gals, mainstream for sometime now!!

10-04-2005, 07:34 PM
DarkChilde3D wrote:
It really sounds like we are being exterminated on another level, here. Has anyone really considered the possibility of other-worldly life? If God made us, surely he could have made others that he chose not to tell us about.

God did create nature and 'survival of the fittest' and all that . . .

Anyone?

I wouldn't be anyone because, quite frankly, I'm not convinced GOD created us and I'm not convinced in evolution either. Honestly, I'm quite content believing that GOD exists in each one of us. Whether he created us, I wouldn't know, but I rather doubt it.

GOD, to me, is my guiding force. HE is an entity in an of himself that exists on another plane, in another dimension, but within all of us. He is a divine being, a spirit, my conscious. He is intelligent life form. He is in my heart, my soul and my mind. God is part of me! I share my house with him.

Ozziecynic
10-05-2005, 01:18 AM
Barb:
:-? Strangely enough, I always thought of Australian men as being the epitome of manliness.
Now why would you think that!.Australia is post modern first world country just like the US with a very multicultural population just the same as the US or Europe or canada. To think that we are some kind of wild frontier, crocodile dundee style with kangaroos going through every suburban yard is pure tourist shmolsh!.
It just proves how square your eyes are.Do yourself a favour please get away from your idiot box more often read or travel more!.



With all the hardship that went along with settling a hostile new land I would have thought all the cry babies had been weeded out. Thank you both for disabusing me of my illusions. Just like GWB your President right!.
A rugged indivdualist with a great Texan or should i say New England spirit of individual initative of the existenialist achiever that just drops out of space without the support of anyone( yeah right!.)
:-? :lol:

10-05-2005, 01:29 AM
She is using femalian E-prime on you, Ozzie. Her subtle little 'suggestion's' are designed to cut deeply. But programmed agents like Barbara enjoy 'killing you softly'.

Let her have it. Give her full frontal manhood right in her yapper.

10-05-2005, 01:41 AM
One of the amazing things about the feminist movement is not only how false it is 'outwardly', but even the core belief system that binds it all together. This is the basic position whence springs feminism - Men and Women are equal in every way.

Well, physically, this is absurd. Anyone with eyes can see that the male is the females physical superior in terms of physical strength. They are not 'equal', they are not even comparable.

But, what I think men have lost sight of is the fact that males and females are not even intellectually equal.

Seriously. Men are even the intellectual superiors of women. This goes far to explain why women are more gullible. Why did Satan choose Eve as his victim instead of Adam?

Was the choice arbitrary? No. Satan went to the weakest intellect - woman. Adam sinned because he listened to Eve, not because he believed her. It is stated explicitely in Scripture that Eve was deceived, but Adam was not deceived.

Men and women are not equal, nor are they comparable. They were created for two different works that complement one another. But woman was made for man, not man for woman. Adam was first created, then Eve afterward.

10-05-2005, 02:01 AM
Now some may say something like, "Yes, but that is your Bible, and that is your doctrine of women. But our tradition teaches differently."

The response to this is that it has not one wit to do with 'Scriptures' of any kind. It has everything to do with one's ability to look at the objective facts of life.

Yet for those who need 'balance', then let us hear from the Beast himself on the matter. And for those who don't like the 'Beast', I will just remind you that if you are not a Christian, and you consider yourself a New Ager, then Aleister Crowley is the Father of your faith.

Here are two chapters taken from Liber Aleph, and Epistle of Therion to his Magickal Son 777

{Epsilon }{gamma }
DE VERITATE QUEM FEMINAE NON DICERE LICET.
My Son, I charge thee, however thou beest provoked hereunto, tell not the Truth to any woman. For this is that which is written, Cast not thy pearls before swine, lest they urn again and rend thee. Behold, in the nature of woman is no truth, nor apprehension of truth, nor possibility of truth, only, if thou entrust this jewel unto them, they forthwith use it to thy loss and destruction. But they are ware of thine own love of truth, and thy respect thereunto, so therefore hey tempt thee, flattering with their lips, that thou betray hyself to them. And they feign falsely, with every wile, and cast about for thy soul, until either in love or in wrath or in some other folly thereof, thou speak truth, profaning thy sanctuary. So was it ever, and herein I call to my witness Samson of Timmath, that was lost by this error. Now for any woman, any lie sufficeth; and think not in thine extremity hat truth is mighty, and shall prevail, as it does with any man, for with a woman her whole craft and device is to persuade thee of this, so that thou utter the secret of thy soul, and become her prey. But so long as thou feed her with her own food of falsity, thou art secure.

{Epsilon }{delta }
DE NATURA FEMINAE.
The nature of woman, o my Son, is as thou hast learned in our most Holy Qabalah; and she is the clothing in sex of man, he magical image of his will to love. Therefore was it said by thine uncle Wolfgang von Goethe: Das Ewigweibliche zieht uns hinan. But therefore also hath she no nature of truth, because she is but the Eidolon of an excitement and a going of hy star, and appertaineth not unto its essence and stability. So then to thee she is but matter and to her thou art but energy, and neither is competent to the formula of the other. Therefore also thy will is itself imperfection, as I have shewed thee aforetime, thou art not in the way of love except hou be dressed in that robe of thine which thou callest woman. And thou canst not lure her to this action proper to her by thy truth; but thou shalt, as our grammar sayeth, assume the mask of the spirit, that thou mayst evoke it by sympathy. But thou shalt appear in thy glory only when she is in thy power, and bewildered utterly by ecstasy. This is a mystery, o my Son, and of old times it was declared in the fable of Scylla and Charybdis, which are the formula of the rock and the whirlpool. Now then meditate thou strictly upon his most worthy and adorable arcanum, to thy profit and enlightenment.

Arjuna
10-05-2005, 04:53 AM
This thread began with rushdoony's extensive quote of Julian Lee's excellent article:
How To Develop Great Self-Control, And Even Complete Celibacy (http://celibacy.info/CelibacyNL02.html)

I want to thank rushdoony for introducing me to Julian Lee. I have been reading Lee's writings, and find them very enlightening.

Here is another great article by Julian Lee:

Lessons From "The Apprentice": The Nature of Women In The Workplace (http://celibacy.info/TheApprentice.html)

Last night Donald trump selected as his apprentice Kelly, the ex-army officer and West Point grad. Kelly beat out 16 other contestants and his formidable rival: a lithe, profound blonde named Jennifer. (We don't learn their last names.)

It looked like Jennifer could easily win. A southerner, she had no discernible accent. Girls from the better southern families have it burnished away in finishing schools. Jennifer had that cultivated, understated manner still found in the southern belle of the higher classes. Her breeding showed sometimes outwardly: Standing up when Kelly joined the table. Northern barbarians don't do that. But her true allure came from restraint and things not done and not said. Here is a principle forgotten by the modern woman, now far removed from the subtle power exercised by Lao Tzu's "mysterious female."

Among the women she was my pick early on. She kept aloof from the brute language and constant kvetching of the northern women. Aside from having more culture, she was the professional Queen of Spades among them. She was an accomplished and rising lawyer with academic credits that were truly jaw-dropping. When it finally came to the heat, she presented herself like a trial lawyer; she was verbally more acute and skillful than the more colorless Kelly. She had researched Trump's organization, showing a knowledge of his corporate situation. (The others had been too dumb to think of that.)

Her performance as a team member had been calm and cooperative. Though afforded few opportunities to shine, her competence was obvious. To wrap up, she had large, dewy eyes and an arresting feminine form. Posing in a cameo Levi's ad, she passed as a model.

In the final interview she presented herself so compellingly that Kelly seemed overwhelmed and ready to croak. It seemed that her resume eclipsed his. For the first time he was nervous, his voice showing breaks. But in a dramatic moment Trump turned and fired Jennifer to leave Kelly standing.

The ascent of Jennifer had intrigue. I could see she was the female to reckon with. She was the only one with feminine charisma, i.e., soft understatement. The others were crass and hardened, swearing like toughs and generally acting like a cheaper variety of male. Jennifer had elegance and unobtrusive skill. She was a smooth speaker. Whether hurriedly inserted into a T.V. commercial, or in front of a coliseum of stony executives, she was unflustered.

With each episode she was shaping up as the master strategist. At one point she hoodwinked a sophisticated Levis honcho, swooping in to gently lift credit for her team's win. She had little to do with it, but connected to the Levis boss in a cool last-minute effusion of talk. The male CEO bought her, even citing her as "best contributor" in a project where she played no central role. This stuck in the craw of her Asian nemesis, Ivana. (Which was a gas because Ivana was an insufferable harpy always 'ragging" about Jennifer.) At that point I knew that the blonde Jennifer was the one to watch, and that she was cunning.

Cunning is the forte of the female. In the Genesis story it is Eve who consorts with the cunning snake. One who is cunning uses subtle means to move things in their favor. A woman uses it to get a man to serve her, sometimes in untoward ways that he oughtn't. (Cunning shares a root with cunnilingus, as well as another vulgar word for female.) Guile or "gyle" shares provenance with "gynecology."

A General can win wars if he is strong in these feminine traits of cunning and guile. One of Jennifer's strategies was to avoid nasty battles in the early stages, both in and out of the board room. She kept her distance from the other women, letting them tear at each other, and made alliances with strong male players like Andy. Throughout most of the series she preserved a soft image; you didn't expect her to draw much blood in a fight. In the words of one peer, she flew "under the radar." Finally in the last two shows, when it was do or die, we found out she had very good claws.

Heretofore restrained, she made quick work of her most serious rival, Sandy. A few well-worded diatribes and Sandy was on the ground, mortally wounded. She allowed adversaries to underestimate her, leaving them unprepared. She saved her best shots for last. In the final climatic interview when she marshaled her accomplishments, blow by blow -- Kelly seemed stunned. But moments later "The Donald" dramatically fired her and chose Kelly. In a bit I will analyze that.

Women A Problem In the Male Workplace

The entire series reveals the natural differences between men and women. We get to see why women are unsuited to the male world of work. The men contestants were unflaggingly easygoing, sincere, and faithful in group work. They did not attack each other. They were similar to dogs. The females tore at each other in every show. The T.V. censors probably had sore thumbs from pressing the "bleep" button whenever the women were talking. "The Apprentice" showed why humankind invented the term "cat fight" to describe the arguments of women. Yet, when we see groups of females working together in the domestic realm -- getting together with children, preparing food for a gathering, etc. -- we see little of that behavior. Could it be that there is something unnatural about women in the workplace? Could it be that in this realm the female is naturally insecure, so that it brings out her more negative potential?

A humorous moment occurred when it slipped out that Jennifer herself held this view of the female. When asked why she had so many early project failures, she answered: "I was working on an all female team." This got a stupefied reaction from the New-Think crowd. Someone asked what she could possibly mean. "There was a lot of in-fighting" she explained, just as if in-fighting and female groups go together. There was a moment of cognitive dissonance as the culturally brainwashed grappled with this Old World view of the female.

When a woman does well in the male's traditional world, she often had a strong male influence from an early age. Women like talk show host Laura Ingraham think and speak like men. These kind of women usually have strong intellectual influences from a father, brother, or other male. Thus they can spar in that realm without resorting to claws. Jennifer was raised in the southern culture still influenced from the top down by men. This accounts for the survival of some feminine softness, and her intellectual clarity. Another case of a female imbued with male intelligence is Donald Trump's beautiful Nordic deputy, Carolyn Kepcher. She sits quietly beside Trump like a royal minister, exhibiting masculine restraint and intellectual acuity that is the product of long association with males. Notwithstanding her high position, she retains a feminine personae that leaves her attractive as a woman. You couldn't imagine her brawling, or tainting a deal with sex. Women like Kepcher, who live with a strong male in charge, retain both their feminine aura and a firm moral structure.

When patriarchy declines women become coarse and unpleasant because they no longer have the shelter of male protection and the security of a clear social structure. They also lose mental clarity. Raised in matriarchal federal schools and fatherless families, they are not exposed to male intellectual rigor and fair play. When they end up in the stressful workplace of men, having to compete with males -- and other women according to male standards -- out come the claws. Lacking the male influence women also become morally unclarified. These women miss their highest potential for feminine emotional and spiritual development. That is found among other women in family work, surrounded by the protective structure of supportive male patriarchy.

Women In The Workplace Are Often Dangerous: Why Trump Chose Kelly

Towards Jennifer Mr. Trump lodged two complaints: 1) She was part of a lot of team failures, and 2) Team members disliked her. In Kelly, Donald Trump had found a loyal male who acted like a dog. He was not truly polished, so Trump could finish him, shaping him as a true protege. Trump could lift him to a higher station, and be his unquestioned superior. The real reason Trump fired Jennifer was that she was too able, too smart, and too cunning. A survivor like Trump must have sensed that Jennifer was so skilled, and so subtle, she could do him in. She could wrest power from him, or money. Millions of men know what Trump knows -- that a cunning female can divest you of wealth, progeny, and life. The fact that she was a major league attorney made her more dangerous. That same strategic guile that brought her to the final round warned Trump off. Shark in the water! Trump explained obliquely: "People just don't like you." Kelly was also disliked. But he was less risky.

The Female Will Use Her Sexuality To Gain Advantages, Get a Man, Or Just To Muck Everything Up

Women in the workplace present another separate problem, and that is their willful sex appeal. Women will always use their sexuality to gain whatever advantage they can. She has this special power, and in her bones, the weakness for using it. This plays havoc with the structured relationships created in the male domains of workplace, hunt, and brigade. Proof emerged when Ivana actually dropped her skirt in public to get a higher price for a candy bar. (The appalled look on male-seasoned Carolyn was worth the price of admission.) In our military today we have seen a breakdown in moral order after just a few years of female enlistment, witnessed in the Iraqi prisoner abuses, and the spread of illicit sex among male and female soldiers.

This power and tendency in the female, plus her relative physical weakness, excluded her from critical missions requiring cohesive and well-ordered relationships (business), a chain of command (the military), and extreme organization (the hunt).

The Female Will Always Use Sex Appeal to Get an Edge In Male Enivornments

Once the sole province of the prostitute, makeup is used heavily by females in the workplace to gain advantage through sexual appeal. Because the harlotry of heavy makeup is now socially accepted, her influence over males becomes covert even though practiced overtly. Men generally don't even recognize what she is doing. Women may justify it under the rubric of "beauty," but she knows she is pushing for raw sex appeal.

Females have long known that the color red exerts a sexual influence on males. This is because it suggests blood, piercing, and the female organ. The suggestion of blood also makes a subtle reference to the spilling of the "higher blood" -- the male semen. Long fingernails give a subliminal message of "piercing," the sexual act, and blood. Emphasizing the lips is an old female trick to conjure the youth and health of the ingenue, and is sexually exciting to the male. Red lips suggest blood rushing to the face in the state of sexual passion. Lip emphasis also brings kissing to mind, and oral sex, and provides a subliminal reference to the female's other "lips" below (her labia).

Darkened eyes are designed to suggest mystery, the hooded eyes of sleep, the bedroom. Despite the claim to equality, most women can't resist pushing raw sexuality in the workplace with men. They know they are not truly equal in that milueu, so they use sexual attractiveness to even the scales.

Without makeup, the woman appears to be just what she is: A weaker, paler version of a male. Makeup and raw sex appeal serve to obfuscate this reality and give her a kind of edge that is inappropriate to the situation (business, military, etc.) This creates confusion in the male work environments, and the collapse of male order. In this book title the author is not content to sell sex appeal as mere influence, but lets us see she views it as a form of force.

Women are well aware of how sexual attractiveness gives them advantages in male environments, and seek to exploit it. But it creates inefficiency and chaos in these environments, and gives her power that she does not earn rightly. Other titles from the Women's section of my local bookstore: The Female Advantage, The Power Of Beauty, and Face Value: The Politics of Beauty.

The Ultimate Cunning

In reality the female knows that she was never unequal as a human being. She knew that in the home, family, and interpersonal relations she possessed feminine advantages rooted in the ages; she dominated the once vast realm of Home, and a vaster realm called Society. We don't understand that matriarchs and matrons of the 19th century were influential and respected personages. Have you met many impressive matrons or matriarchs lately? How about a female personage? Woman gave up a lot when she began to neglect these realms. But this is what happens when you chase endless desire.

As she turned to the "tenth house" -- the world of men's work, woman knew that her power of sexual fascination gave her a unique edge in business among men. That is why the female does not forgo lipstick and eye shadow in the business world. She well knows that sex appeal mitigates disadvantages among perennially vulnerable men. In the great pinball machine of business, she utilizes male attraction like magnetic energy -- deflecting here, influencing there, and weedling in wherever she wants.

Women today are running a vast scam. She acquires masculine intellect, training and skill, plus legal equality. Then she dollops on the big lips and hooded eyes, because she knows it gives her an ungodly edge among men in the workplace. She finds herself "more than equal."

"Patriarchy" is really the attempt by men to keep women in reasonable bounds and in natural balance with him.

Feminism is really a play by woman to take all and everything in the realm of power.

Arjuna
10-05-2005, 06:28 AM
A Peek Into the Modern Female Mind (http://celibacy.info/ModernFemaleMind.html)

Letter From A Feminist:
To Henry Makow, SaveTheMales.ca
1/6/05

"You are a scared little man. Scared of the mighty power of the vagina. Soon our red forces will anhilate the "birthing mothers" and babies will be made in factories. Then the mighty vagina will be free to dominate the political and economic spheres of western civilization. HAHA
FEAR THE VAGINA!!!!!"

ps. you suck.
Irene Stickney

10-05-2005, 09:41 AM
Where in the hell is BlueMangle?????????????

10-05-2005, 01:51 PM
Anonymous wrote:
Where in the hell is BlueMangle?????????????


I can see it now. A Broadway Show!

"FEAR THE VAGINA."

igwt
10-05-2005, 02:51 PM
BlueAngel wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Where in the hell is BlueMangle?????????????


I can see it now. A Broadway Show!

"FEAR THE VAGINA."

Gives new meaning to the name, 'Blue Ring Octopus' :lol:

Arjuna
10-05-2005, 11:00 PM
In this thread, we have been busy bashing the female for her wanton ways. It is easy to lay the blame for this sorry state of affairs at the feet of the NWO; however, a more fundamental cause is at work here. Males in general, as a group, are the culprits.

I have grappled with this issue for many years. Thanks to Julian Lee, I now have a much better understanding of what is going on. What follows is an excerpt from his book Bliss Of The Celibate (http://www.celibacy.info/).

Julian is an astrologer (http://locational-astrologer.com/) who specializes in the effect a location on earth has on a person. In the following, he refers to the 10th house which deals with business outside the home, and the 4th house which deals with home and domestic matters.

The Male Period: How the western male has been in a state of deep, chronic "PMS" and made the world a mess

The male orgasm effects the the male in the same way that the menstrual period affects the female.

Here is a basic fact that has always been true, but forgotten in the west: Both of the sexes have a loss of vital tissue related to sex and procreation. In the female this is her monthly period. At that time she loses a quantity of blood and vital tissue. It is because of this loss that at the time of the period the female undergoes a psychological change which is well known, and today in the west it is called "PMS" or pre menstrual syndrome.

It is well established in our modern culture that the female experiences various negative states at this time monthly. The phenomena include: irritability, critical moods, depression, moodiness, tiredness, lack of concentration, impatience, withdrawal, and more.

What is important for westerners to realize is that for a male, an ejection of sexual fluid brings him his "period" and his own "PMS." Any orgasm in the male brings the exact same psychological consequences as the period in the female: irritability, critical moods, depression, moodiness, tiredness, lack of concentration, impatience, withdrawal, and more. He has less to give to mate and children, and tends to withdraw for a while. In immediate terms, every female who has had intercourse has witnessed the noticeable change in mood, lack of interest, and marked withdrawal following the male discharge. It happens right away. He becomes a different man. The glint is now gone from his eye. He turns away from her in the bed; a moment ago he was passionate and extremely interested--willing to do much for her. Now he seems not to care at all, or is even repulsed by sex and by her. An actual feeling of disgust arises in man, for sex and woman, immediately after orgasm generally.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to comprehend why this takes place. The man has ejected something from his body that had a lot to do with his former mood. And now you see an immediate effect.

As with the female, the effect on the male, physically and psychologically, extends well beyond the first hour after the loss. It extends at least 24 hours in the male after he loses pearls, and it is better at this time if he withdraws. In fact, most men do indeed withdraw from constructive social intercourse for some time after orgasm. The smart ones simply slink away and don't even deal with their families for at least a day. The ones who stay around in the family or social setting for the first 24 hours after intercourse will show irritability and less patience. Check it out all you couples: Most domestic fights occur within 24 hours of the man's orgasm. This is confusing to women. It is especially more true if the man is "running low" in the first place. If a man has orgasms less frequently, his store of shakti, and pearls, is much higher, so these effects are mitigated. Some effect will be noticeable after even one orgasm in a one-month period. But for men who who are wanton with orgasms, his hidden "PMS syndrome" is already running chronic and deep, and any discharge affects him more because he is already overdrawn at the bank.

Now consider that the female gets hit with this only once monthly. She experiences this loss only once every 28 days. It is dictated by nature once a month, but no more. But consider the average western male, most of whom are sex addicts. He chooses to have many, many "periods" with loss of vital tissue, throughout the month. Ignorant modern "sexologists" have even encouraged him in these wanton orgasms, stating that to have less than a prescribed number is somehow "abnormal." So what we have in the west, and in most places of the world, is most of the men on permanent PMS.

Qualities of nobility, patience, magnanimity, energy, and strength accrue in men who conserve their shakti. But now such men as these are rare. The standard for men's behavior has dropped lower and lower over the centuries. Women are accustomed to men "on PMS" because the men are almost always in this state. Because men are chronically on PMS, it is difficult to perceive the contrast between a psychological low or high -- men are always at a low. For this reason, women have actually become psychologically superior to men.

In modern western society, women and their PMS have a big reputation. The real reason she gets criticized for this is her normally higher psychological state. The change at period time is a noticeable difference. Men, on the other hand, are always at a uniformly low psychological state. So they don't appear to have any big changes of state. There is not the benefit of contrast as for females. Men are always "on PMS" and trying in various ways, usually with distractions or drugs, to deal with it. This is the truth, and the world can receive no benefit until men figure it out.

Again: What we have now is a culture in which most men are in a long term, chronic state of PMS. Men and women should be intelligent and realize this. In the sexual discharge, Nature is intending to give us something very great -- the birth of a new human being. Thus they should realize why nature extracts a penalty from men for sexual discharge, just as Nature has always done for women in their monthly period. To ignore these obvious facts is one of the signs that western society is basically ignorant and misses the obvious in Nature. (No wonder the west is destroying the earth if they are too ignorant to catch this.) It has also led to the corruption of west and east, and the ruin of Nature and human society.

Of all factors in the destruction of the planet and the deterioration of society, this is the most important cause: the western man's chronic state of PMS, which makes him addictive, moody, impatient, restless, critical, needing to mood alter, surly, depressed, agitated, unbalanced, materialistic, needy, greedy and worse.

Divorce would be cut in half if men were not in a chronic state of PMS.
Men would treat their wives better.
Wives would stay attracted to their men.
Men would not be raping and pillaging the earth in search of thrills.
Men would be kinder to their children and have more patience with them.
Men would be less critical of all family members.

This is the truth, and has always been the truth. The divine shakti is sacred, and it's loss has a profound effect on the mentality of the male. Check out the big sexers: the pop stars who wantonly dump their fluid everywhere: They look like old men at a young age. The only way they maintain their youth is with expensive treatments, transfusions, money, relaxation, etc.

How often did nature intend for man to have a loss of vital fluid? You guessed it. One needs only to look at the female, who is more in nature's embrace, to guess the answer. Once a month is nature's maximum for the male. Any more orgasms than that makes the male PSYCHOLOGICALLY INFERIOR to the female. Take this a truth to remember forever. Yes. I am telling you something that is true today, in the 1990's A.D. The truth is this: Women, in general, are now morally and psychologically superior to men. They have more patience. They have more evenness. They are more reasonable. They can handle a more complex and stressful daily load (especially mothers), and they live longer. The entire reason is that they lose vital shakti less often than men. Women have been gaining moral ascendancy over men now for many centuries because of the male wasting his shakti. Women take over the world for this reason, and there is no alternative as long as the male wastes shakti. In that condition, he is not qualified. As soon as a man begins to hold on to his shakti, he becomes a different kind of man, however--the sort that once existed and is today rarely seen. Also his relationship to women and positive effectiveness in the world is restored. Only in the culture of renunciation does man come back into his higher nature and leadership qualification. More on that at another time.

So these orgasms that men have -- they verily have a heavy price. You need to look at nature to understand what nature is intending. Nature provides many clues to the positive plan of creation. Consider it plainly:

When the woman has sex with a man, she receives something. The deposit of the man's pearls into the woman actually is of great physical and psychological benefit to the female. The ancient Chinese Taoists remarked extensively on the positive effects to the female. Her body and spirit is positively nourished by the tract of generative substance deposited in her by the male. This is one of the reasons females "glow" after sex.

Now, assuming all went according to nature's intent, the woman now gives back something profound in return. After the male gives up his something, the female then gives back something very great, which only she can do: An infant human being, precious and innocent.

Do you think that is a trivial thing? Indeed, a child is the greatest thing a man and woman can create in this world. Think of it: Such is the power of the male seed that the female will respond with such a powerful thing!

So one must comprehend the high value of a male's pearls. They should not be trifled with, or else it is to his detriment. Man was not made to have more than one orgasm a month, or else he comes into a low psychological state. It is actually because of man's obscene wantonness with his shakti that women today are gaining in social and cultural power over men. They had to. Women have had no choice! Man has abandoned his high psychological and moral station. He has abandoned his nobility.

In medieval times, a man's sexual organ was known as his "virtue." There was a plain reason for this: The male sexual energy is the cornerstone of a man's psychological resilience and his character. When he dumps it wantonly, he loses his virtue.
The world is out of control because men are out of control and the female is having to grab the wheel of the "Tenth House." In doing so, she has to also try to be at the helm in the "Fourth House," where she always used to prosper, and having to do both, she does them badly. This is all the responsibility of men and his disrespect for the sacredness of sex, and overdoing sex beyond what is ordained by Nature.

But the joy is that with knowledge and cultivation, men can come back into their true power, stop our "fall," and bring back the Garden of Eden, day by day, by Degrees. We are falling out of the Garden every day by degrees, but you can stop the fall today, now.

Now we have been commenting on how sexual self restraint benefits a person, especially the male. But we have hardly begun, because the first benefit is really damage control: getting the male out of long term chronic PMS and giving his nobility and power as a real human being back. In the west, that will be the first effect of sexual self restraint. We are talking about giving his patience back. Getting his steadiness of mind back. Getting his nobility and fidelity back. Getting his calm and generosity back. Getting rid of his neediness and thralldom to sex.

But now we will speak in more positive terms and describe the wonderful charms, powers, and psychological improvements that descend upon the male who begins to respect his divine shakti, even by making a moderate attempt at restraint, say, cutting his orgasms in half.

10-05-2005, 11:07 PM
Sorry, but I found her article repulsive. I don't think she has ever truly enjoyed sex with the males species!!

10-05-2005, 11:08 PM
igwt wrote:

BlueAngel wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Where in the hell is BlueMangle?????????????


I can see it now. A Broadway Show!

"FEAR THE VAGINA."

Gives new meaning to the name, 'Blue Ring Octopus' :lol:

I have no freakin' clue what you are referring to!!!

this
10-06-2005, 09:44 PM
I'd have to agree with Dark Childe that the spat between Barbara and OC/fra is not worthwhile.

So DC, about the survival of the fittest idea, are you familiar with the Darwin/ early days of Communism angle? The fit can survive, yes, but they don't always. This idea is similar to the creation versus evolution debate. It is possible to have both.

Why are many animals and people beautiful, and yet others like hyenas or moose, clearly not? I'm not sure a truly dog eat dog world could work. Life might not exist at all under that scenario. Balance is probably the answer. Power resides in weakness as well as strength, beauty as well as ugliness.

DarkChilde3D
10-07-2005, 12:03 AM
This . . .

It is my belief that each and every one of us has attributes and weaknesses that are directly linked to each other.

Why is your typical "geek" usually lanky, unattractive, etc? The reason is because his makeup is designed to function as a 'geek'. If this 'geek' was to spend the amount of time that a prettyboy/girl spends on their looks, body, etc . . . then that person will not be carrying out the function that he is predisposed to prefer.

Hyenas and moose are attracted to other hyenas and moose . . . if not, these animals would not have perpetuated the species.

I'm not exactly sure I worded the 'dog eat dog' scenario correctly. Let me ponder that a bit.

The reason that the fit don't always survive is attributed to pure dumb luck. Life is like a poker game and a chess game all rolled into one, if you think about it. You need to develop certain skills and timings to get ahead in life, and you also need to either have the luck of a really good hand, or the ability to make everyone think it's better than it is.

About the dog eat dog bit. We all practice this in daily life . . . unfortunately it is part of our nature. We are animals in a biological sense, and we cannot deny that our primitive brain still causes us to act on instinct and impulse. Unfortunately, these primitive brain functions have been closely studied by the powers that be, so they know exactly how to make a world full of oversexed, over competative, blatantly hateful, bigoted and envious people. Why do you think these advertizing firms study seemingly simple things like product placement, advertising print methods, word placement, subliminal messaging, etc.? It is so they could make us do or buy whatever it is that they want us to buy.

Not all of us know the nature of our own brains, and unfortunately, it is a topic that is a bit beyone most of our grasps.

If you really want to make the world a better place, perhaps we should start secretly putting salt peter in the special sauce at the McDonalds as a starting point. However, if we did things like this without the sheeples' knowledge, we would be just as guilty of trying to gain control over the masses as the NWO is guilty of exploiting it.

And Arjuna . . . I think you're right about male PMS. I usually get mine the day after my wife is done with her PMS . . . and after ungodly amounts of moodswings and abuse. Hey, if she's allowed to verbally beat me down because of something that is in no way, shape or form any design that I would have put into women, why can't I not have my day of retaliation? She knows that I get moody the day after she has been . . . and she has come to expect and accept that she is a bitch when she has PMS, and so she takes her licks the same way I do. We both have calmed down since I started doing this to her, because now she knows how it feels, and she is more careful about what she says and does while she is PMS'ing. We have seen each other's side of the coin as closely as is physically and mentally possible. I can never experience true PMS, but she also cannot truely feel what its like to be on the recieving end of one of her temper tantrums, either. I do take it easier on her than she does on me, but I also don't have the symptoms she has.

truebeliever
10-07-2005, 12:06 AM
I agree fully with that article ARJUNA.

But it will take an AWFUL lot for the average male to attain this state as he will have to learn how to 'relate' to fellow 'humans' instead of 'objects'.

After being trumatised into constant left brain operating it will take a while to balance his hemispheres and the female to do the same.

I think God will be doing that via the mechanism of deep suffering on a global scale.

10-07-2005, 12:10 AM
this wrote:
I'd have to agree with Dark Childe that the spat between Barbara and OC/fra is not worthwhile.

So DC, about the survival of the fittest idea, are you familiar with the Darwin/ early days of Communism angle? The fit can survive, yes, but they don't always. This idea is similar to the creation versus evolution debate. It is possible to have both.

Why are many animals and people beautiful, and yet others like hyenas or moose, clearly not? I'm not sure a truly dog eat dog world could work. Life might not exist at all under that scenario. Balance is probably the answer. Power resides in weakness as well as strength, beauty as well as ugliness.

Yet you say nothing of the Hare, or the Squirrel...

and what of the Beaver?

DarkChilde3D
10-07-2005, 12:16 AM
And just to clear something up . . . fra/OC and Barbara's arguments serve at least one purpose. They both are getting out into the open what they are feeling. Now they both have to consider what the other is saying and try to find a middle ground. Both sides of their arguments have valid points, bullshit, and hatred/prjudice within them.

But, they are also human beings, and have every right to feel the way the feel . . . you really cannot control what you feel, you can only learn how to express it or channel and focus it toward something positive.

However, I do think fra is hurting over something right now, and whatever it is, I do hope it passes and he starts to feel better about it. I detect hatred in the form of inflicted pain in his words. Something similar goes for Barbara, but its not the same. Barbara is bent on revenge, even though she doesn't say it. She was hurt by some neanderthal of a man, and rightfully so, she has distrust and contempt for those particular type of men. So be it. The ones she describe aren't worth the trouble anyway, but not all men are like this. She also believes that there are men out there that are perfect providers as well as perfect physically and mannered specimen. Very rare, and most of them are gay.

And fra, women are just as flawed as us. They fall into this 'I wanna be pretty/a princess/a cheerleader' crap at an early age. IF you really want to blame someone for the very start of this pattern of behavior, blame Mother Goose, Disney, and every other company that puts out children's programming, movies and books. And then blame the parents for allowing their daughters to go after the princes of the world, so they can be concubines.

Now there is no doubt that it is human nature for a female to want a provider . . . but most women want more than a provider. They want someone to downright spoil them with un-necessities. Extras. It seems that dating has turned onto the 4 animal search game. They want (and not all women, but the vast majority) a jaguar in the garage, a mink around her neck, a tiger in bed, and a jackass to pay for it all.

And its not just the men that are being unfaithful. Women who have a good provider are often subject to spend lots of time alone while the husband is working long hours to run the business. This leaves her open to the mailman, milkman, poolboy, personal trainer, etc. to come in and fill the void.

Most women want their cake and to eat it too . . . bet really, you need to pick one or the other, ladies. Either pick the shallow or deep way of life. You can almost never have it both ways without hurting someone else or yourself.

And guys, don't fuck her unless you love her. The spread of AIDS is rampant. I'm tired of watching friends die of this shit.

truebeliever
10-07-2005, 12:22 AM
Men have also in many ways brought this on themselves. The Feminist movement could not exist if the male of the species would respect and affirm the female role instead of treating her like dirt and the family role as inferior to the role of provider.

Men and Women need to join forces and have a good go at the real enemy...the social engineer's bent on destroying the social fabric by setting men against women.

Men have deserved the last 30 years of unshaved armpits and saggy tits.

DarkChilde3D
10-07-2005, 12:25 AM
Yeah, I mentioned that before as well, true. It used to be the 'rule of thumb' . . . which was the guideline of how thick of a stick you should use to beat your wife and kids . . . no thicker than your thumb. Every king knows if he treats his people like shit, they're going to cut off his head. If a man is the king of the castle, he should know this as well, am I right?

truebeliever
10-07-2005, 12:33 AM
Testify D.C...i hear ya brother!

It's pretty fucking simple really.

A mate has just broken up with his 21 year old slut tart whore girlfriend who took it upon herself to sleep with 8 guys in 2 weeks and give him a few diseases.

He needs this as he is as knieve as a 10 year old child and cannot fathom why other people are not as decent as him...the hallmark of a garden of eden dweller who just got kicked out.

And who taught these wonderful values of fuck anything that moves and do whatever the fuck you like...MALES - through their puppets Christina Slut Face Agurila and Broad Shouldered Brittany.

Who brings the drugs in to make girls behave like complete and utter whores of babylon - MALES.

Who produces the hard core porn that goes along with the drugs and the Dolly articles - MALES.

There ya go boys...you created them directly or through passive acceptance of these values...now deal with it.

10-07-2005, 12:35 AM
Oh my goddess! I just Nuit! You guys!

The Feminist movement started because a bunch of magicians got together and figured out how the could manipulate the female ego and turn it against Christianty.

Abrahadabra!

Well, I should correct this, of course.

That was the old Aeonic word.

The new word of the Aeon is SHAZAM.

I think that you will find that it complements the old Aeon quite nicely.

SHAZAM. The divine response to Abrahadabra.

If you don't think it's powerful, then you know neither the power of Abrahadabra, nor do you know the power of Shazam!

Just listen:

Abrahadabra!
Shazam! Shazam!
Abrahadabra!
Shazam!
Abrahadabra! Abrahadabra! Abrahadabra!
Shazam! Shazam!

Isn't that nice?

No, my dear worldlings. Things have changed.

truebeliever
10-07-2005, 12:41 AM
DC...just read what you wrote and obviously we are in complete agreement.

I might add reader that my preaching does not mean that i will ever give up on perving on tight female tush.

truebeliever
10-07-2005, 12:47 AM
Dear BABS...

Strangely enough, I always thought of Australian men as being the epitome of manliness. With all the hardship that went along with settling a hostile new land I would have thought all the cry babies had been weeded out. Thank you both for disabusing me of my illusions.

Dont let these 2 pretenders put ya off. My boomerang always comes back and I ALWAYS tell time by the Sun...Mach 3 razors? Puuhh..i spit on them, sharpened Bowie knife, or it's Miami Vice in Khaki baby.

I'll be off now for a souvlaki and a plate of chips. If i'm not heard from it's because local natives or wild crocs have finally got me...but not to worry...you will always be in my heart.

Love T.B.

P.S - fra-whatever and O.C should be ashamed of themselves! As Ali G has said..."that is a very sexist way to talk about these bitches".

Grow up the both of you!

http://www.crocodilehunter.com/australia_zoo/images/australia_zoo_splash_13.jpg

http://www.crocodilehunter.com.au/crocodile_hunter/croc_hunter_promo_main/crocsrule_sign.gif

10-07-2005, 01:43 AM
truebeliever wrote:
Dear BABS...

Strangely enough, I always thought of Australian men as being the epitome of manliness. With all the hardship that went along with settling a hostile new land I would have thought all the cry babies had been weeded out. Thank you both for disabusing me of my illusions.

Dont let these 2 pretenders put ya off. My boomerang always comes back and I ALWAYS tell time by the Sun...Mach 3 razors? Puuhh..i spit on them, sharpened Bowie knife, or it's Miami Vice in Khaki baby.

I'll be off now for a souvlaki and a plate of chips. If i'm not heard from it's because local natives or wild crocs have finally got me...but not to worry...you will always be in my heart.

Love T.B.

P.S - fra-whatever and O.C should be ashamed of themselves! As Ali G has said..."that is a very sexist way to talk about these bitches".

Grow up the both of you!

http://www.crocodilehunter.com/australia_zoo/images/australia_zoo_splash_13.jpg

http://www.crocodilehunter.com.au/crocodile_hunter/croc_hunter_promo_main/crocsrule_sign.gif

By cricky! It's Stever Erwin! I love that guy, man! Watch him all the time on Animal planet.

You gotta respect a man who dives in head first after 25ft reptiles.

Shannow
10-07-2005, 03:58 AM
frater,
is that the same Steve Irwin who believes that John W Howard is Oz' greatest PM, and subsequently got away with interacting with Antarctic wildlife, in spite of international convention ?

truebeliever
10-07-2005, 05:32 AM
How dare you SHANNOW! Showing your true Commie colours now! Steve Irwin is close to a ManGod in these parts.

But seriously...the man is a complete embarressment and i BET he beats his missus!

Still, any man that stupid to wrestle 12 foot crocodiles must get some respect...

I "cringe" every time he comes on the telly.

Ozziecynic
10-07-2005, 08:24 AM
:-o P.S - fra-whatever and O.C should be ashamed of themselves! As Ali G has said..."that is a very sexist way to talk about these bitches".
Ashamed of what exactly?. I mean in all honesty i dont really know if Barbara is arthur or martha,Cyberbot or CIA hermaphrodite experiment.Honestly anything is possible on cc!.So dont get too uptight old boy!.

Grow up the both of you!
Great words of wisdom from the Jedi Master that has posted more wacky posts than i have hair on my head!. I think ill pass this time YODA master! :lol: :roll:

this
10-07-2005, 12:42 PM
Barbara wrote:

For a woman to be a woman, first a man must be a man. He is the warrior and protector, she the child-bearer and nurturer.


Okay, fair enough, that's biological. Other things are cultural, developed over centuries for some sort of societal harmony. War unfortunately has been a part of life, and sometimes those wars weren't tribe A encroaching on tribe B's territory. Sometimes war has been pushed on society by kings and queens and more recently banksters. The violence to spirit from men being directly involved in war is immeasurable. Violence to spirit also took the form of induced poverty, banker style, from families forced into slave labour in the new industrial revolution.


When you great knuckle-draging warriors go chasing off after a younger "piece," and leave the female with 2-3 or more small children who will grow up in poverty while you and the new chick spend your time dodging child support payments, I don't call that being a man.

Look around, how many instances of this have you seen in your relatively young lives? How many of you come from that background?


Haven't seen that, can't really comment. Identify more with Henry's view of feminism where women choose to dissolve the relationship.



No, I don't like what has happened to the young women of today OR the young men. Both groups have been sorely manipulated by the same group of Social Engineers to bring about just the results you have so accurately described.

To destroy any species all you have to do is foul their nesting ground. Don't look now but there is shit in the nest of the hertosexual MALE AND FEMALE, especially you white guys. You are the ultimate threat to the One World Order elite. You always have been and for that they intend to destroy you by any means.

Notice, they included women as a minority when passing laws either "protecting" or favoring certain groups. That is a dead giveaway. Divide and conquor. Set one group against the other. In this case, divide and destroy. Has it sunk in yet that your group is the ONLY one without a social (or otherwise) "safety net?" You are all walking around with a bulls eye on your back.



Can't see why OC was taking offense, but that's what he did 6 months ago when he was on this forum



Besides loosing many generations of the "best and brightest" to bankers' and industrialists' wars, there is a generation being lost today that was never threatened by this before and I am referring to pornography. So many young men today can no longer "get it on" with women because their brain is mush from watching hours on end of this soul-destroying poison while practicing self-gratification. That means no reproduction; sad, but not altogether a bad thing. You need a healthy mind and body to establish and maintain a healthy relationship and rear healthy children.

Abortion has left many of the "thirty-something" females unable to reproduce. It's sad but not altogether a bad thing. Again, it takes a healthy mind and body to establish and maintain a healthy relationship and rear healthy children.

There is no way to unscramble scrambled eggs, there has been a lot of damage done to Generation Xers and Yers, I guess you could call them. My best suggestion is to get out of the cities to look for a wife, someone considerably younger than you. When you find someone who meets your criterior, MAKE A LIFE-LONG COMMITMENT TO HER.

A long-practiced double standard - it's alright for guys to screw around on their wives but it is NOT alright for wives to screw around on their husbands - made women a perfect target for these Social Engineers.

It took WWII to get women out of the home and into jobs while their men were overseas wiping out the root stock of their own race. Another great move towards destroying the nesting ground.

Learn the difference between "need" and "want" so that the family can live on one income, yours.

Love each other, but just as importantly RESPECT each other and the roles that nature intended for the two of you to play. Both of you love and nurture your children, do not turn the role of educating them over to government schools. Teach THEM respect but first and foremost be a role model in the way their Father and Mother respect each other.

Never go to bed at night after having an argument without finding some common ground on which to stand and say "I love you." With the way things are going, it may be the last chance you get.

Start with a plan and some mutually agreeable ground rules, sort of like a prenuptual agreement, and refer to them when things get rough. What a great opportunity to share your philosophy of life with another.

Good luck and God (whoever or whatever he/she/it may be) bless. Remember, if it was easy, everybody could do it.



Anyway, can't see why there was an argument against Barbara's points. And for Barbara - if men are the hunters, tuned in to seek out mates, don't you think they might be a little depressed and angry at the scarcity of 'normal' women? A man can be normal, but when only a small number of women have escaped feminist brainwashing there will be many men out of luck. Has feminism also brainwashed these men to accept a life without becoming a husband and father? Perhaps.

freeman
10-07-2005, 01:47 PM
Anyway, can't see why there was an argument against Barbara's points.

Nor did I take any offense in what Barbara said.
Thanks for going back and repasting her comments, this.
I'm afraid she merely ran afoul of my old fraternal friend Yeoshua in one of his many disruptive "alters".
This entire thread really highlights the success of the Hegelian NWO strategy in terms of alienating men and women, and that is such an abysmal shame.
I think that men and women have to put aside all of this NWO agenda and its impact upon our personal and romantic lives, from feminism to pornography and back again. The traditional courting dynamic that we need to get back to again is the one wherein the couple themselves get to determine what works specifically within their own unique relationship.
Two people in love and commitment to each other, working it out their own way; from this simple, unadulterated concept emerges the old-fashioned traditional nuclear family, the bulwark of human society -- and the real targe that the Illuminati planners are shooting at.

nohope187
10-07-2005, 08:12 PM
Arjuna wrote:

The Male Period: How the western male has been in a state of deep, chronic "PMS" and made the world a mess

The male orgasm effects the the male in the same way that the menstrual period affects the female.

This article reminds me of one of those Monty Python songs that goes, "Every sperm is sacred, every sperm is great. If a sperm is wasted, God gets quite irate" la lala la lala deedee deeda. :-P

nohope187
10-07-2005, 08:14 PM
truebeliever wrote:

I might add reader that my preaching does not mean that i will ever give up on perving on tight female tush. here here! :-P

Barbara
10-07-2005, 09:51 PM
This, thank you so much for reposting my comments. It is doubtful that those who were yelling the loudest even read the post in it's entirety. :-?

Thanks, too, for rescuing a "damsel in distress" from dragons. Assuming that you are a gentleman, you are my knight in shining armor. If you are a lady, Babe, YOU ROCK!!!! (NOTICE: I didn't say YOU RULE) :lol:

Barbara
10-08-2005, 08:02 AM
This, I didn't forget your question but I wanted to think on it because of the seriousness with which you asked it and the potential for mischief that would lie in an "off the top of my head" type answer.

Here's the conundrum, what is normal today? Sadly, once those leaders of a movement like Women's Liberation have "moved on," the Betty Friedans, Bella Abzugs and Gloria Steinhams, the harm and wreckage they leave behind gets incorporated into the structure of things because the human race has become so adaptive or adaptable. Life is moving at a much faster pace than, say, even 50 years ago. Technology is rocketing us into a future we have not had the time needed with which to adequately adjust, so in order not to be "left behind" in this mad rush we "adapt and run." It is also a useful tactic, watch how they stamped cattle up a ramp to the slaughter house.

It could be likened to having only 30 minutes for lunch so you swing by McDonalds, pick up the poison of your choice and eat it in the car on the drive back to work. You eat without thinking or tasting and before you know it you have finished and you are back at work. The poisonous "fast food" you have ingested will now work it's way through your system for a couple of days clogging your arteries with cholesterol, adding unneeded fat and calories to over work your heart, etc., and you will have already forgotten the act of ingestion.

More males today refer to and think in terms of the Women's Liberation Movement than do women. The little "mouseburgers," as Betty Freidan condescendingly referred to women then, were told to burn their bras, get out there and go toe-to-toe with the oppressive (usually white) men of the world and claim their rightful place. Again, using a simile, it is relative to telling blacks with no education, no work ethic, no strong family or community structure that it is the white man alone that is holding them back; racism. Both are lies, told with a purpose.

Creating false expectations in anyone or any group is a destructive thing done with malice aforethought. As the expectations ARE false or misleading, they are doomed to failure, leaving those who bought into the lie looking around for someone to blame. Just as I never owned a slave or contributed to the oppression of any person of color, most of you white guys never owned a corporation with a "glass ceiling" that kept women from advancing but the die has been cast. You and your kind are the enemy.

While I can stay out of predominantly black neighborhoods to avoid being available for someone to vent their frustrations on, you single white males are in the worst possible position. Those who would resent you for imagined wrongs are the very group to whom you look to find a mate to share your life and have your children, thus forming the building blocks of civilization - the nuclear family.

Do you recall when I referred in my original post to the fact that, to destroy any species, all that is required is to foul (poison or destroy) the nesting ground? It is much easier to see in retrospect than it was at the time their treacherous plan was being put into place.

A feeling of animosity was created and an attitude struck, laws were passed by the "whore (Congress and Senate) who sits on the back of the beast (government)," in the District of Corruption (modern day Babylon) in order to curry favor with yet another organized group of voters, guaranteeing that you and others like you are branded as oppressors for life.

Sorry, Love, I'm getting there but some background was necessary, nothing happens in a vacuum and not everyone is all that familiar with the movement as it came about, only it's tragic legacy.

After a couple of generations of being told they are Superwomen and can/must juggle job and family and make it look easy, the Superwomen of today are tired, both in body and in spirit. The mothers and grandmothers of the young women from which you will choose a wife are beginning to realize that those who originally sold them the lie had money which bought maids and butlers and didn't know the meaning of budgeting a more or less fixed income to accommodate rising prices for everything from basic needs such as food and shelter to health care which is a luxury few today can really afford. Fear is their constant companion.

One of the hardest things in the world is to admit to having been gullible and taken in by another's lies. Look at the former Bushites who are changing their mind on the war but are slinking to the opposite view rather than tar and feathering Bush himself. They have been taken in, they know that others know this and they are embarrassed by it. Some, rather than admit they are wrong, are still pushing for more death and destruction, just to save face. Ego at work.

This is the situation of women in the wake of Women's Lib. Rather than admit that they were gullible they can look at their husbands and fault them for not making more money or their boss in the workplace for not paying them enough. The simple fact is that they were given false expectations. Advertising in all it's myriad manifestations bombard them with pictures of the "successful" woman, wife and mother. Children are programmed to be consumers from the cradle. All this takes MONEY, the major cause of arguments, divorces and inter-familial homicides in this country and other first world nations.

Meanwhile, Madison Avenue, the Mecca of advertising campaigns, portrays the husband as an overweight, bumbling, often insensitive dolt and makes him the butt of thinly-veiled jokes where the rest of his family is concerned. Are you beginning to see how thoroughly fouled is the nesting grounds of the nuclear family, who is doing it and what they want to achieve as a final result? You, white boy, are the enemy and must vanish from the face of the earth. You stand in the way of a total takeover of the whole planet by the Satan-worshiping Illuminate. Sorry to disillusion you but those at the top are not white, only those in the next lower levels who think they run the show are. If you want to know more about this we can discuss it by e-mail, it's too much for here.

Men and women have to clean their minds of the brainfilthing that has been spoon-fed to them since birth. You are a part of nature in that this earth is your physical form's environment. When was the last time you went for a long walk in the country, maybe watched the sun rise or set? When did you last enjoy the silence - no radio, TV, iPod, cell phone, pager, computer or cars - from out of doors and listen to what the voices of the silence were whispering to you? Moving water, a stream, a river, the ocean are all great places to go, giving the mind a rest so it can begin to cleanse itself. "Physician, heal thyself" before taking on the role of helping the woman of your choice to heal herself.

You must come to realize that you are not a physical being having a spiritual experience but a spiritual being having a physical experience. Once this thought has become a part of you, you can open yourself to the possibilities of a love that is so deep and abiding that it encompasses yet transcends the physical. Women are usually more "spiritual" than men, sorry, guys. When a woman finds a man who evinces interest in the spiritual by his actions and lifestyle, who actually embraces and reflects these qualities, they are usually flabbergasted.

No, you don't have to hug trees or chant mantras or wear those funny clothes. Spirituality is a sensed quality, it makes itself known and felt quietly at a soul-deep level and bids the loved one to join it. Unlike a quick "roll in the hay," this takes time. Look at it as an investment in the rest of your life.

It is revealed through even-tempered-ness and reason, not temper tantrums and yelling. Have you ever noticed how some people have a calming effect on others? They seem to embrace life, absorbing the good as nectar and dealing with the not-so-good so that it doesn't throw them for a loop. Study them, learn their secrets for getting past the stress.

For your own sake, STOP RUSHING. Know the old expression, "stop and smell the roses?" When was the last time you smelled a rose on a rose bush and not one that smells like a funeral home in some grocery store cooler? EXPERIENCE LIFE, it is all around us and we are too busy or too tired to notice, or even care. That is not living, it is existing - BIG DIFFERENCE!

Have you ever tried to build anything while going 90 miles an hour? Well, that is what we are doing today, we are trying to build relationships on the fast track with no foundation save for physical attraction (sex appeal) which is fleeting at best. We all get older. What are you going to do with the other 23 1/2 hours of your day? Learn the art of real communication, it is the super glue of life and relationships.

Once you become comfortable in your own skin, at peace within yourself, you will have to carry a big stick to beat the women off. You will become a magnet to the female soul. Don't get off track, choose carefully. Don't lose yourself again and go back to the way you were before. Time is on your side even though all we really have is a little bit of time, relatively speaking, to experience all the treasures that life has to offer. Quality over quantity.

BTW, in case some lady is reading this, every bit of it applies to you. Being a woman myself, I understand your frustrations at ever finding the "right" man for you. I have three grown daughters.

You cannot pick peaches from a cherry tree, you have to go where the peach trees are growing. My best advice would be to stay away from singles bars and after-work watering holes for the worker bees. You know the scene. Better to find a park or walking path, no better way to ease out of the work-a-day mode and ease into a relaxing evening. Frequent smaller, quieter, more out-of-the-way restaurants.You meet some very nice people in all these places. Think about it. Toss the TV and give your vehicle a rest. Your wallet will thank you, too, with $3.50 a gallon gasoline.

This is not a road map to a place called Happiness, it is not a battle plan for going out and "capturing" the mate of your dreams. It is offered as food for thought. Don't try swallowing it whole, it was meant to be consumed slowly, with thought and consideration.

You alone are the ultimate master of your own fate. Every decision you make moves you in a direction. Be aware of this so that you can make the decisions that will help you move in the direction you want to go.

There is someone out there looking for you just as you are looking for them.

this
10-08-2005, 07:59 PM
Barbara wrote:

After a couple of generations of being told they are Superwomen and can/must juggle job and family and make it look easy, the Superwomen of today are tired, both in body and in spirit. The mothers and grandmothers of the young women from which you will choose a wife are beginning to realize that those who originally sold them the lie had money which bought maids and butlers and didn't know the meaning of budgeting a more or less fixed income to accommodate rising prices for everything from basic needs such as food and shelter to health care which is a luxury few today can really afford. Fear is their constant companion.


There's a link on the web showing a census of Betty Friedan as one of three children of a wealthy family with two maids.



Are you beginning to see how thoroughly fouled is the nesting grounds of the nuclear family, who is doing it and what they want to achieve as a final result?



Yes, I think things are still changeable though. Quite possibly most 'middle class' young women are programmed to be young men in a girlie kind of way. However if they are strong enough they could find themselves some day. How many young women today search out/ hunt for their mate? How likely is that to work long term?



When a woman finds a man who evinces interest in the spiritual by his actions and lifestyle, who actually embraces and reflects these qualities, they are usually flabbergasted.



Yes but she's probably already in control of her life to some extent and continues on.



For your own sake, STOP RUSHING. Know the old expression, "stop and smell the roses?" When was the last time you smelled a rose on a rose bush and not one that smells like a funeral home in some grocery store cooler? EXPERIENCE LIFE, it is all around us and we are too busy or too tired to notice, or even care. That is not living, it is existing - BIG DIFFERENCE!



That's modern life, from maternity leave to daycare to public school to high school etc. Rush, rush to the speed at which 20% are comfortable and 10% find too slow. Also, why wait for marriage when you can have a succession of girlfriends/boyfriends right now? If I were to guess I'd say women do more of the rushing though.

Perhaps modern men's failings are attributable to a lack of imagination, and being out of touch with their creator.

And perhaps modern women's failings are losing respect for their difference and uniqueness. "Oh, I can be a fire fighter too!!" So what?

nohope187
10-08-2005, 08:28 PM
Barbara wrote:
You, white boy, are the enemy and must vanish from the face of the earth. You stand in the way of a total takeover of the whole planet by the Satan-worshiping Illuminate.
Wow, that's fucking depressing. Excuse me while I go sulk in alcohol. :pint: :oops: :evil: :-o :-? :-( :cry:

nohope187
10-08-2005, 08:31 PM
Funny how the buzz feels nice, but I still don't feel better. :-?

truebeliever
10-08-2005, 08:32 PM
Yo OC...do I have to put little smily faces every time i have a giggle?

I mean, did i sound that serious?

Ana
10-15-2005, 05:46 PM
I'm sure Rushdoony and Fra_nothing are a pair of queers. Rushdoony was telling everybody he was a woman a few months ago so I've got a good idea which role he plays in the love den.

What gross excuses for men this site has attracted, just as well I won't be coming back. Ever.

igwt
10-15-2005, 06:40 PM
Ana wrote:
I'm sure Rushdoony and Fra_nothing are a pair of queers. Rushdoony was telling everybody he was a woman a few months ago so I've got a good idea which role he plays in the love den.

What gross excuses for men this site has attracted, just as well I won't be coming back. Ever.

:-o

Ozziecynic
10-17-2005, 08:45 AM
:-( Some post modern women are enough to drive any sane man queer no matter how much testosterone they have.
I guess thats why many modern women think gays are the best male friends!. :-?