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10-13-2005, 08:02 AM
Dear Christian,

I would like for you to review the following document. Assume for the time being that its stated objectives are real and actual. Give close
consideration to these psychological, economic, and electrical 'silent weapons'.

Afterward, theorize on how you would re-engineer the superstructure of their economic power system.

Here are some of the questions I have asked on this topic.

1. What do they desire above all?

To maintain Control, Dominance. To maintain statu quo 'peace' (as in Pax Romana)

2. What are their weapons of choice?

Silent psychological and economic weapons (Satan's 'fiery darts').

3. How have these weapons given them control thus far?

--Through breakdown of family units of potential economic 'energy' if you will. (i.e.,

Treating Dad as a 'drooling imbicile' on TV, over and over again. Programing humans to

think in terms of the 'powerful female' and the 'kowtowing male', which, of course, is totally opposed to nature, and therefore meaningless.

--Creating artificially manufactured social 'divisions' (i.e, Women's Liberation, a

Two Party System, black 'rights', white 'rights', gay 'rights', senior citizen

'rights', children's 'rights', etc.)

--By taking natural human desires and causing artificially overdriven 'power plants'

of passion. (i.e., Psycho-active drugs, Gambling, Pornography, etc.)

My aim in this is to assume the view of an electrical engineer and a physicist who has

spent his life thinking in terms of 'resistance' 'inductance' etc.

As a 'spiritual engineer', how would you propose to bring down the system of silent warfare through backward engineering this social power plant? Think on this too: what engineering weapons do you yourself possess, O Christian? Is there any way to apply your research into the physical/spiritual laws of nature to a subject such as economic or information warfare? Answer: There most certainly is!

I have a very specific idea about how to create a total collapse within their world system. I am convinced that such a victory could be exacted by a spiritual 'domino' effect.

What I am saying is that after having 'threatened' the American and world public for so long about the illusive 'big brother watching', it is possible that we could 'call them out', so to speak. We could demand that they 'make good' on their implied threats. If they did not act, they would be a laughing stock before heaven and earth. It would crush their vainglorious boasts of power. We would actually force Satan's hand to make his final assault against Christianity. We could actually kick up the levl of electrical 'resistance' so to speak, so that it would be to such a level as to 'blow up' their manufactured inductance.

The church herself could accomplish this. This is no joke. It can and will actually happen. I would like to give you a chance to work in this Great Work.

We could create such spiritual resistance against the silent weapons of their warfare, that they would be forced to openly attack us with physical warfare. It is not at all Satan's will to speed up the process of his own demise. Therefore, he wants to put Christian's to sleep. Create little to no resistance in a 'peaceful, 'free' society
and you can rule the whole show. But if Christians resisted, so much so that Satan could do nothing less than make his final assault, we could actually bring about the end of the world and our own salvation by faith in God. For it is written when Satan makes his final assault against the camp of the Saints, when that happens, 'fire proceeds from heaven and consumes them all'. And the great thing about it is that Christians are the ones who went on the attack.

We do not need to fight physically. All we need to do is give them a glass-eyed stare and a firm right fist shaking in their faces in open defiance against them all. They could do nothing less than attack physically. Else, their credibility is shattered. And that is exactly the
point. I assure you this day before God, all of the 'Force' is completely with us now. Think about this. I'm interested in what you would do. It is a crazy and brazen theory. So crazy in fact, it will work. It is beyond doubt. It is the destiny made by Faith and Freewill.

We can and will create such a massive, collective, rebel yell of disorder, that they will be forced. You might even think of this in terms of their own 'Double Wand of Power'. Do not allow them to be your own 'White Snake, so to speak. Let the 'Black Snake' be itself. You Work at this time is to be that very Force of LVX itself.

Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars

"The following document, dated May 1979, was found on July 7, 1986, in an IBM copier

that had been purchased at a surplus sale."

-- "Behold a Pale Horse", Milton William Cooper, pg 36

Milton William Cooper, a former Navel Intelligence Officer with the Commander in Chief

of the Pacific Fleet, and a 38 level above tope secret clearence, read the same report

in Navel Intelligence Majority Twelve file, it was listed as compiled by the

Bilderberger Group.



Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars

An introductory programming manual
Operations Research
Technical Manual


This publication marks the 25th anniversary of the Third World War, called the "Quiet

War," being conducted using subjective biological warfare, fought with "silent


This book contains an introductory description of this war, its strategies, and its


May 1979 #74-1120


It is patently impossible to discuss social engineering or the automation of a

society, i.e., the engineering of social automation systems (silent weapons) on a

national or worldwide scale without implying extensive objectives of social control

and destruction of human life, i.e., slavery and genocide.

This manual is in itself an analog declaration of intent. Such a writing must be

secured from public scrutiny. Otherwise, it might be recognized as a technically

formal declaration of domestic war. Furthermore, whenever any person or group of

persons in a position of great power and without full knowledge and consent of the

public, uses such knowledge and methodology for economic conquest -- it must be

understood that a state of domestic warfare exists between said person or group of

persons and the public.

The solution of today's problems requires an approach which is ruthlessly candid, with

no agonizing over religious, moral or cultural values.

You have qualified for this project because of your ability to look at human society

with cold objectivity, and yet analyze and discuss your observations and conclusions

with others of similar intellectual capacity without a loss of discretion or humility.

Such virtues are exercised in your own best interest. Do not deviate from them.


Silent weapon technology has evolved from Operations Research (O.R.), a strategic and

tactical methodology developed under the military management [Eisenhower] in England

during World War II. The original purpose of Operations Research was to study the

strategic and tactical problems of air and land defense with the objective of

effective use of limited military resources against foreign enemies (i.e., logistics).

It was soon recognized by those in positions of power that the same methods might be

useful for totally controlling a society. But better tools were necessary.

Social engineering (the analysis and automation of a society) requires the correlation

of great amounts of constantly changing economic information (data), so a high-speed

computerized data-processing system was necessary which could race ahead of the

society and predict when society would arrive for capitulation.

Relay computers were too slow, but the electronic computer, invented in 1946 by J.

Presper Eckert and John W. Mauchly, filled the bill.

The next breakthrough was the development of the simplex method of linear programming

in 1947 by the mathematician George B. Dantzig.

Then in 1948, the transistor, invented by J. Bardeen, W. H. Brattain, and W. Shockley,

promised great expansion of the computer field by reducing space and power


With these three inventions under their direction, those in positions of power

strongly suspected that it was possible for them to control the whole world with the

push of a button.

Immediately, the Rockefeller Foundation got in on the ground floor by making a

four-year grant to Harvard College, funding the Harvard Economic Research Project for

the study of the structure of the American economy. One year later, in 1949, the

United States Air Force joined in.

In 1952 the original grant period terminated, and a high-level meeting of the elite

was held to determine the next phase of social operations research. The Harvard

project had been very fruitful, as is borne out by the publication of some of its

results in 1953 suggesting the feasibility of economic (social) engineering. (Studies

in the Structure of the American Economy -- copyright 1953 by Wasily Leontief,

International Sciences Press Inc., White Plains, New York.)

Engineered in the last half of the decade of the 1940s, the new Quiet War machine

stood, so to speak, in sparkling gold-plated hardware on the showroom floor by 1954.

With the creation of the maser in 1954, the promise of unlocking unlimited sources of

fusion atomic energy from the heavy hydrogen in sea water and the consequent

availability of unlimited social power was a possibility only decades away.

The combination was irresistible.

The Quiet War was quietly declared by the International Elite at a meeting held in


Although the silent weapons system was nearly exposed 13 years later, the evolution of

the new weapon-system has never suffered any major setbacks.

This volume marks the 25th anniversary of the beginning of the Quiet War. Already this

domestic war has had many victories on many fronts throughout the world.


In 1954 it was well recognized by those in positions of authority that it was only a

matter of time, only a few decades, before the general public would be able to grasp

and upset the cradle of power, for the very elements of the new silent-weapon

technology were as accessible for a public utopia as they were for providing a private


The issue of primary concern, that of dominance, revolved around the subject of the

energy sciences.


Energy is recognized as the key to all activity on earth. Natural science is the study

of the sources and control of natural energy, and social science, theoretically

expressed as economics, is the study of the sources and control of social energy. Both

are bookkeeping systems: mathematics. Therefore, mathematics is the primary energy

science. And the bookkeeper can be king if the public can be kept ignorant of the

methodology of the bookkeeping.

All science is merely a means to an end. The means is knowledge. The end is control.

Beyond this remains only one issue: Who will be the beneficiary?

In 1954 this was the issue of primary concern. Although the so-called "moral issues"

were raised, in view of the law of natural selection it was agreed that a nation or

world of people who will not use their intelligence are no better than animals who do

not have intelligence. Such people are beasts of burden and steaks on the table by

choice and consent.

Consequently, in the interest of future world order, peace, and tranquility, it was

decided to privately wage a quiet war against the American public with an ultimate

objective of permanently shifting the natural and social energy (wealth) of the

undisciplined and irresponsible many into the hands of the self-disciplined,

responsible, and worthy few.

In order to implement this objective, it was necessary to create, secure, and apply

new weapons which, as it turned out, were a class of weapons so subtle and

sophisticated in their principle of operation and public appearance as to earn for

themselves the name "silent weapons."

In conclusion, the objective of economic research, as conducted by the magnates of

capital (banking) and the industries of commodities (goods) and services, is the

establishment of an economy which is totally predictable and manipulatable.

In order to achieve a totally predictable economy, the low-class elements of the

society must be brought under total control, i.e., must be housebroken, trained, and

assigned a yoke and long-term social duties from a very early age, before they have an

opportunity to question the propriety of the matter. In order to achieve such

conformity, the lower-class family unit must be disintegrated by a process of

increasing preoccupation of the parents and the establishment of government-operated

day-care centers for the occupationally orphaned children.

The quality of education given to the lower class must be of the poorest sort, so that

the moat of ignorance isolating the inferior class from the superior class is and

remains incomprehensible to the inferior class. With such an initial handicap, even

bright lower class individuals have little if any hope of extricating themselves from

their assigned lot in life. This form of slavery is essential to maintaining some

measure of social order, peace, and tranquility for the ruling upper class.


Everything that is expected from an ordinary weapon is expected from a silent weapon

by its creators, but only in its own manner of functioning.

It shoots situations, instead of bullets; propelled by data processing, instead of a

chemical reaction (explosion); originating from bits of data, instead of grains of

gunpowder; from a computer, instead of a gun; operated by a computer programmer,

instead of a marksman; under the orders of a banking magnate, instead of a military


It makes no obvious explosive noises, causes no obvious physical or mental injuries,

and does not obviously interfere with anyone's daily social life.

Yet it makes an unmistakable "noise," causes unmistakable physical and mental damage,

and unmistakably interferes with daily social life, i.e., unmistakable to a trained

observer, one who knows what to look for.

The public cannot comprehend this weapon, and therefore cannot believe that they are

being attacked and subdued by a weapon.

The public might instinctively feel that something is wrong, but because of the

technical nature of the silent weapon, they cannot express their feeling in a rational

way, or handle the problem with intelligence. Therefore, they do not know how to cry

for help, and do not know how to associate with others to defend themselves against


When a silent weapon is applied gradually, the public adjusts / adapts to its presence

and learns to tolerate its encroachment on their lives until the pressure

(psychological via economic) becomes too great and they crack up.

Therefore, the silent weapon is a type of biological warfare. It attacks the vitality,

options, and mobility of the individuals of a society by knowing, understanding,

manipulating, and attacking their sources of natural and social energy, and their

physical, mental, and emotional strengths and weaknesses.


"Give me control over a nation's currency,
and I care not who makes its laws."

Mayer Amschel Rothschild
(1743 - 1812)

Today's silent weapons technology is an outgrowth of a simple idea discovered,

succinctly expressed, and effectively applied by the quoted Mr. Mayer Amschel

Rothschild. Mr. Rothschild discovered the missing passive component of economic theory

known as economic inductance. He, of course, did not think of his discovery in these

20th-century terms, and, to be sure, mathematical analysis had to wait for the Second

Industrial Revolution, the rise of the theory of mechanics and electronics, and

finally, the invention of the electronic computer before it could be effectively

applied in the control of the world economy.


In the study of energy systems, there always appear three elementary concepts. These

are potential energy, kinetic energy, and energy dissipation. And corresponding to

these concepts, there are three idealized, essentially pure physical counterparts

called passive components.

(1) In the science of physical mechanics, the phenomenon of potential energy is

associated with a physical property called elasticity or stiffness, and can be

represented by a stretched spring.

In electronic science, potential energy is stored in a capacitor instead of a spring.

This property is called capacitance instead of elasticity or stiffness.

(2) In the science of physical mechanics, the phenomenon of kinetic energy is

associated with a physical property called inertia or mass, and can be represented by

a mass or a flywheel in motion.

In electronic science, kinetic energy is stored in an inductor (in a magnetic field)

instead of a mass. This property is called inductance instead of inertia.

(3) In the science of physical mechanics, the phenomenon of energy dissipation is

associated with a physical property called friction or resistance, and can be

represented by a dashpot or other device which converts system energy into heat.

In electronic science, dissipation of energy is performed by an element called either

a resistor or a conductor, the term "resistor" being the one generally used to express

the concept of friction, and the term "conductor" being generally used to describe a

more ideal device (e.g., wire) employed to convey electronic energy efficiently from

one location to another. The property of a resistance or conductor is measured as

either resistance or conductance reciprocals.

In economics these three energy concepts are associated with:

Economic Capacitance -- Capital (money, stock/inventory, investments in buildings and

durables, etc.)

Economic Conductance -- Goods (production flow coefficients)

Economic Inductance -- Services (the influence of the population of industry on


All of the mathematical theory developed in the study of one energy system (e.g.,

mechanics, electronics, etc.) can be immediately applied in the study of any other

energy system (e.g., economics).


What Mr. Rothschild had discovered was the basic principle of power, influence, and

control over people as applied to economics. That principle is "when you assume the

appearance of power, people soon give it to you."

Mr. Rothschild had discovered that currency or deposit loan accounts had the required

appearance of power that could be used to induce people (inductance, with people

corresponding to a magnetic field) into surrendering their real wealth in exchange for

a promise of greater wealth (instead of real compensation). They would put up real

collateral in exchange for a loan of promissory notes. Mr. Rothschild found that he

could issue more notes than he had backing for, so long as he had someone's stock of

gold as a persuader to show to his customers.

Mr. Rothschild loaned his promissory notes to individuals and to governments. These

would create overconfidence. Then he would make money scarce, tighten control of the

system, and collect the collateral through the obligation of contracts. The cycle was

then repeated. These pressures could be used to ignite a war. Then he would control

the availability of currency to determine who would win the war. That government which

agreed to give him control of its economic system got his support.

Collection of debts was guaranteed by economic aid to the enemy of the debtor. The

profit derived from this economic methodology made Mr. Rothschild all the more able to

extend his wealth. He found that the public greed would allow currency to be printed

by government order beyond the limits (inflation) of backing in precious metal or the

production of goods and services (gross national product, GNP).


In this structure, credit, presented as a pure element called "currency," has the

appearance of capital, but is, in fact, negative capital. Hence, it has the appearance

of service, but is, in fact, indebtedness or debt. It is therefore an economic

inductance instead of an economic capacitance, and if balanced in no other way, will

be balanced in no other way, will be balanced by the negation of population (war,

genocide). The total goods and services represent real capital called the gross

national product, and currency may be printed up to this level and still represent

economic capacitance; but currency printed beyond this level is subtractive,

represents the introduction of economic inductance, and constitutes notes of


War is therefore the balancing of the system by killing the true creditors (the public

which we have taught to exchange true value for inflated currency) and falling back on

whatever is left of the resources of nature and regeneration of those resources.

Mr. Rothschild had discovered that currency gave him the power to rearrange the

economic structure to his own advantage, to shift economic inductance to those

economic positions which would encourage the greatest economic instability and


The final key to economic control had to wait until there was sufficient data and

high-speed computing equipment to keep close watch on the economic oscillations

created by price shocking and excess paper energy credits -- paper



Thea aviation field provided the greatest evolution in economic engineering by way of

the mathematical theory of shock testing. In this process, a projectile is fired from

an airframe on the ground and the impulse of the recoil is monitored by vibration

transducers connected to the airframe and wired to chart recorders.

By studying the echoes or reflections of the recoil impulse in the airframe, it is

possible to discover critical vibrations in the structure of the airframe which either

vibrations of the engine or aeolian vibrations of the wings, or a combination of the

two, might reinforce resulting in a resonant self-destruction of the airframe in

flight as an aircraft. From the standpoint of engineering, this means that the

strengths and weaknesses of the structure of the airframe in terms of vibrational

energy can be discovered and manipulated.


To use this method of airframe shock testing in economic engineering, the prices of

commodities are shocked, and the public consumer reaction is monitored. The resulting

echoes of the economic shock are interpreted theoretically by computers and the

psycho-economic structure of the economy is discovered. It is by this process that

partial differential and difference matrices are discovered that define the family

household and make possible its evaluation as an economic industry (dissipative

consumer structure).

Then the response of the household to future shocks can be predicted and manipulated,

and society becomes a well-regulated animal with its reins under the control of a

sophisticated computer-regulated social energy bookkeeping system.

Eventually every individual element of the structure comes under computer control

through a knowledge of personal preferences, such knowledge guaranteed by computer

association of consumer preferences (universal product code -- UPC -- zebra-stripe

pricing codes on packages) with identified consumers (identification via association

with the use of a credit card and later a permanent "tattooed" body number invisible

under normal ambient illumination...


...The Harvard Economic Research Project (1948-) was an extension of World War II

Operations Research. Its purpose was to discover the science of controlling an

economy: at first the American economy, and then the world economy. It was felt that

with sufficient mathematical foundation and data, it would be nearly as easy to

predict and control the trend of an economy as to predict and control the trajectory

of a projectile. Such has proven to be the case. Moreover, the economy has been

transformed into a guided missle on target.

The immediate aim of the Harvard project was to discover the economic structure, what

forces change that structure, how the behavior of the structure can be predicted, and

how it can be manipulated. What was needed was a well-organized knowledge of the

mathematical structures and interrelationships of investment, production,

distribution, and consumption.

To make a short story of it all, it was discovered that an economy obeyed the same

laws as electricity and that all of the mathematical theory and practical and computer

know-how developed for the electronic field could be directly applied in the study of

economics. This discovery was not openly declared, and its more subtle implications

were and are kept a closely guarded secret, for example that in an economic model,

human life is measured in dollars, and that the electric spark generated when opening

a switch connected to an active inductor is mathematically analogous to the initiation

of a war.

The greatest hurdle which theoretical economists faced was the accurate description of

the household as an industry. This is a challenge because consumer purchases are a

matter of choice which in turn is influenced by income, price, and other economic


This hurdle was cleared in an indirect and statistically approximate way by an

application of shock testing to determine the current characteristics, called current

technical coefficients, of a household industry.

Finally, because problems in theoretical economics can be translated very easily into

problems in theoretical electronics, and the solution translated back again, it

follows that only a book of language translation and concept definition needed to be

written for economics. The remainder could be gotten from standard works on

mathematics and electronics. this makes the publication of books on advanced economics

unnecessary, and greatly simplifies project security.


An ideal industry is defined as a device which receives value from other industries in

several forms and converts into one specific product for sales and distribution to

other industries. It has several inputs and one output. What the public normally

thinks of as one industry is really an industrial complex where several industries

under one roof produce one or more products...


Industries fall into three categories or classes by type of output:

Class #1 - Capital (resources)
Class #2 - Goods (commodities or use -- dissipative)
Class #3 - Services (action of population)

Class #1 has three sub-classes:

Nature - sources of energy and raw materials.

Government - printing of currency equal to gross national product (GNP), and extension

(inflation) of currency in excess of GNP.

Banking - loaning of money for interest, and extension (inflation / counterfeiting) of

economic value through deposit loan accounts.

Class #2 industries exist as producers of tangible or consumer (dissipated) products.

This sort of activity is usually recognized and labeled by the public as an


Class #3 industries are those which have service rather than a tangible product as

their output. These industries are called (1) households, and (2) governments. Their

output is human activity of a mechanical sort, and their basis is population.


The whole economic system can be represented by a three-industry model if one allows

the names of the outputs to be (1) capital, (2) goods, and (3) services. The problem

with this representation is that it would not show the influence of , say, the textile

industry on the ferrous metal industry. This is because both the textile industry and

the ferrous metal industry would be contained within a single classification called

the "goods industry" and by this process of combining or aggregating these two

industries under one system block they would lose their economic individuality.


A national economy consists of simultaneous flows of production, distribution,

consumption, and investment. If all of these elements including labor and human

functions are assigned a numerical value in like units of measure, say, 1939 dollars,

then this flow can be further represented by a current flow in an electronic circuit,

and its behavior can be predicted and manipulated with useful precision.

The three ideal passive energy components of electronics, the capacitor, the resistor,

and the inductor correspond to the three ideal passive energy components of economics

called the pure industries of capital, goods, and services, respectively.

Economic capacitance represents the storage of capital in one form or another.

Economic conductance represents the level of conductance of materials for the

production of goods.

Economic inductance represents the inertia of economic value in motion. This is a

population phenomenon known as services.


An electrical inductor (e.g., a coil of wire) has an electric current as its primary

phenomenon and a magnetic field as its secondary phenomenon (inertia). Corresponding

to this, and economic inductor has a flow of economic value as its primary phenomenon

and a population field as its secondary phenomenon of inertia. When the flow of

economic value (e.g., money) diminishes, the human population field collapses in order

to keep the economic value (money) flowing (extreme case -- war).

This public inertia is a result of consumer buying habits, expected standard of

living, etc., and is generally a phenomenon of self- preservation.



Magnitude of the economic activities of the government.

The method of financing these government activities (See Peter-Paul Principle --

inflation of currency.)


(A few examples will be given.)

Charge -- coulombs -- dollars (1939).

Flow / Current -- ampheres (coulombs per second) -- dollars of flow per year.

Motivating Force -- volts -- dollars (output) demand.

Conductance -- amperes per volt -- dollars of flow per year per dollar demand.

Capacitance -- coulombs per volt -- dollars of production inventory / stock per dollar



An ideal industry may be symbolized electronically in various ways. The simplest way

is to represent a demand by a voltage and a supply by a current. When this is done,

the relationship between the two becomes what is called an admittance, which can

result from three economic factors: (1) hindsight flow, (2) present flow, and (3)

foresight flow.

Foresight flow is the result of that property of living entities to cause energy

(food) to be stored for a period of low energy (e.g., a winter season). It consists of

demands made upon an economic system for that period of low energy (winter season).

In a production industry it takes several forms, one of which is known as a production

stock or inventory. In electronic symbology this specific industry demand (a pure

capital industry) is represented by capacitance and the stock or resource is

represented by a stored charge. Satisfaction of an industry demand suffers a lag

because of the loading effect of inventory priorities.

Present flow ideally involves no delays. It is, so to speak, input today for output

today, a "hand to mouth" flow. In electronic symbology, this specific industry demand

(a pure use industry) is represented by a conductance which is then a simple economic

valve (a dissipative element).

Hindsight flow is known as habit or inertia. In electronics this phenomenon is the

characteristic of an inductor (economic analog = a pure service industry) in which a

current flow (economic analog = flow of money) creates a magnetic field (economic

analog = active human population) which, if the current (money flow) begins to

diminish, collapse (war) to maintain the current (flow of money -- energy).

Other large alternatives to war as economic inductors or economic flywheels are an

open-ended social welfare program, or an enormous (but fruitful) open-ended space


The problem of stabilizing the economic system is that there is too much demand on

account of (1) too much greed and (2) too much population.

This creates excessive economic inductance which can only be balanced with economic

capacitance (true resources or value -- e.g., in goods or services).

The social welfare program is nothing more than an open-ended credit balance system

which creates a false capital industry to give nonproductive people a roof over their

heads and food in their stomachs. This can be useful, however, because the recipients

become state property in return for the "gift," a standing army for the elite. for he

who pays the piper picks the tune.

Those who get hooked on the economic drug, must go to the elite for a fix. In this,

the method of introducing large amounts of stabilizing capacitance is by borrowing on

the future "credit" of the world. This is a fourth law of motion -- onset, and

consists of performing an action and leaving the system before the reflected reaction

returns to the point of action -- a delayed reaction.

The means of surviving the reaction is by changing the system before the reaction can

return. By this means, politicians become popular in their own time and the public

pays for it later. In fact, the measure of such a politician is the delay time.

The same thing is achieved by a government by printing money beyond the limit of the

gross national product, an economic process called inflation. This puts a large

quantity of money into the hands of the public and maintains a balance against their

greed, creates a false self-confidence in them and, for awhile, stays the wolf from

the door.

They must eventually resort to war to balance the account, because war ultimately is

merely the act of destroying the creditor, and the politicians are the publicly hired

hit men that justify the act to keep the responsibility and blood off the public

conscience. (See section on consent factors and social-economic structuring.)

If the people really cared about their fellow man, they would control their appetites

(greed, procreation, etc.) so that they would not have to operate on a credit or

welfare social system which steals from the worker to satisfy the bum.

Since most of the general public will not exercise restraint, there are only two

alternatives to reduce the economic inductance of the system.

(1) Let the populace bludgeon each other to death in a war, which will only result in

a total destruction of the living earth.

(2) Take control of the world by the use of economic "silent weapons" in a form of

"quiet warfare" and reduce the economic inductance of the world to a safe level by a

process of benevolent slavery and genocide.

The latter option has been taken as the obviously better option. At this point it

should be crystal clear to the reader why absolute secrecy about the silent weapons is

necessary. The general public refuses to improve its own mentality and its faith in

its fellow man. It has become a heard of proliferating barbarians, and, so to speak, a

blight upon the face of the earth.

They do not care enough about economic science to learn why they have not been able to

avoid war despite religious morality, and their religious or self-gratifying refusal

to deal with earthly problems renders the solution of the earthly problem unreachable

by them.

It is left to those few who are truly willing to think and survive as the fittest to

survive, to solve the problem for themselves as the few who really care. Otherwise,

exposure of the silent weapon would destroy our only hope of preserving the seed of

future true humanity...


The industries of finance (banking), manufacturing, and government, real counterparts

of the pure industries of capital, goods, and services, are easily defined because

they are generally logically structured. Because of this their processes can be

described mathematically and their technical coefficients can be easily deduced. This,

however, is not the case with the service industry known as the household industry.


...The problem which a theoretical economist faces is that the consumer preferences of

any household is not easily predictable and the technical coefficients of any one

household tend to be a nonlinear, very complex, and variable function of income,

prices, etc.

Computer information derived from the use of the universal product code in conjunction

with credit-card purchase as an individual household identifier could change this

state of affairs, but the U.P.C. method is not yet available on a national or even a

significant regional scale. To compensate for this data deficiency, an alternate

indirect approach of analysis has been adopted known as economic shock testing. This

method, widely used in the aircraft manufacturing industry, develops an aggregate

statistical sort of data.

Applied to economics, this means that all of the households in one region or in the

whole nation are studied as a group or class rather than individually, and the mass

behavior rather than individual behavior is used to discover useful estimates of the

technical coefficients governing the economic structure of the hypothetical

single-household industry...

One method of evaluating the technical coefficients of the household industry depends

upon shocking the prices of a commodity and noting the changes in the sales of all the



In recent times, the application of Operations Research to the study of the public

economy has been obvious for anyone who understands the principles of shock testing.

In the shock testing of an aircraft airframe, the recoil impulse of firing a gun

mounted on that airframe causes shock waves in that structure which tell aviation

engineers the conditions under which parts of the airplane or the whole airplane or

its wings will start to vibrate or flutter like a guitar string, a flute reed, or a

tuning fork, and disintegrate or fall apart in flight.

Economic engineers achieve the same result in studying the behavior of the economy and

the consumer public by carefully selecting a staple commodity such as beef, coffee,

gasoline, or sugar, and then causing a sudden change or shock in its price or

availability, thus kicking everybody's budget and buying habits out of shape.

They then observe the shock waves which result by monitoring the changes in

advertising, prices, and sales of that and other commodities.

The objective of such studies is to acquire the know-how to set the public economy

into a predictable state of motion or change, even a controlled self-destructive state

of motion which will convince the public that certain "expert" people should take

control of the money system and reestablish security (rather than liberty and justice)

for all. When they subject citizens are rendered unable to control their financial

affairs, they, of course, become totally enslaved, a source of cheap labor.

Not only the prices of commodities, but also the availability of labor can be used as

the means of shock testing. Labor strikes deliver excellent test shocks to an economy,

especially in the critical service areas of trucking (transportation), communication,

public utilities (energy, water, garbage collection), etc.

By shock testing, it is found that there is a direct relationship between the

availability of money flowing in an economy and the psychological outlook and response

of masses of people dependent upon that availability.

For example, there is a measurable quantitative relationship between the price of

gasoline and the probability that a person would experience a headache, feel a need to

watch a violent movie, smoke a cigarette, or go to the tavern for a mug of beer.

It is most interesting that, by observing and measuring the economic modes by which

the public tries to run from their problems and escape from reality, and by applying

the mathematical theory of Operations Research, it is possible to program computers to

predict the most probable combination of created events (shocks) which will bring

about a complete control and subjugation of the public thru a subversion of the public

economy (by shaking the plum tree)...


Economic amplifiers are the active components of economic engineering. The basic

characteristic of any amplifier (mechanical, electrical, or economic) is that it

receives an input control signal and delivers energy from an independent energy source

to a specified output terminal in a predictable relationship to that input control


The simplest form of economic amplifier is a device called advertising.

If a person is spoken to by a T.V. advertiser as if he were a twelve- year-old, then,

due to suggestibility, he will, with a certain probability, respond or react to that

suggestion with the uncritical response of a twelve-year-old and will reach into his

economic reservoir and deliver its energy to buy that product on impulse when he

passes it in the store.

An economic amplifier may have several inputs and outputs. Its response might be

instantaneous or delayed. Its circuit symbol might e a rotary switch if its options

are exclusive, qualitative, or "go" or "no go," or it might have its parametric input

/ output relationships specified by a matrix with internal energy sources represented.

Whatever its form might be, its purpose is to govern the flow of energy from a source

to an output sink in direct relationship to an input control signal. For this reason,

it is called an active circuit element or component.

Economic Amplifiers fall into classes called strategies, and, in comparison with

electronic amplifiers, the specific internal functions of an economic amplifier are

called logistical instead of electrical.

In the design of an economic amplifier we must have some idea of at least five

functions, which are

the available input signals,

the desired output-control objectives,

the strategic objective,

the available economic power sources,

the logistical options.

The process of defining and evaluating these factors and incorporating the economic

amplifier into an economic system has been popularly called Game Theory.

The design of an economic amplifier begins with a specification of the power level of

the output, which can range from personal to national. The second condition is

accuracy of response, i.e., how accurately the output action is a function of the

input commands. High gain combined with strong feedback helps to deliver the required


Most of the error will be in the input data signal. Personal input data tends to be

specific, while national input data tends to be statistical.


Questions to be answered:

(1) what (3) where (5) why
(2) when (4) how (6) who

General sources of information:

(1) telephone taps (3) analysis of garbage
(2) surveillance (4) behavior of children in school

Standard of living by:

(1) food (3) shelter
(2) clothing (4) transportation

Social contacts:

(1) telephone - itemized record of calls
(2) family - marriage certificates, birth certificates, etc.
(3) friends, associates, etc.
(4) memberships in organizations
(5) political affiliation


Personal buying habits, i.e., personal consumer preferences:

(1) checking accounts
(2) credit-card purchases
(3) "tagged" credit-card purchases - the credit-card purchase of products bearing the

U.P.C. (Universal Product Code)


(1) checking accounts (5) automobile, etc.
(2) savings accounts (6) safety deposit at bank
(3) real estate (7) stock market
(4) business


(1) creditors (3) loans
(2) enemies (see - legal)

Government sources (ploys)*:

(1) Welfare (4) doles
(2) Social Security (5) grants
(3) U.S.D.A. surplus food (6) subsidies

*Principle of this ploy -- the citizen will almost always make the collection of

information easy if he can operate on the "free sandwich principle" of "eat now, and

pay later."

Government sources (via intimidation):

(1) Internal Revenue Service
(2) OSHA
(3) Census
(4) etc.

Other government sources -- surveillance of U.S. mail.


Strengths and weaknesses:

(1) activities (sports, hobbies, etc.)
(2) see "legal" (fear, anger, etc. -- crime record)
(3) hospital records (drug sensitivities, reaction to pain, etc.)
(4) psychiatric records (fears, angers, disgusts, adaptability, reactions to stimuli,

violence, suggestibility or hypnosis, pain, pleasure, love, and sex)

Methods of coping -- of adaptability -- behavior:

(1) consumption of alcohol
(2) consumption of drugs
(3) entertainment
(4) religious factors influencing behavior
(5) other methods of escaping from reality

Payment modus operandi (MO) -- pay on time, etc.:

(1) payment of telephone bills
(2) energy purchases
(3) water purchases
(4) repayment of loans
(5) house payments
(6) automobile payments
(7) payments on credit cards

Political sensitivity:

(1) beliefs (3) position (5) projects/activities
(2) contacts (4) strengths/weaknesses

Legal inputs -- behavioral control (Excuses for investigation, search, arrest, or

employment of force to modify behavior)

(1) court records (4) reports made to police
(2) police records -- NCIC (5) insurance information
(3) driving record (6) anti-establishment acquaintances


Business sources (via I.R.S., etc):

(1) prices of commodities
(2) sales
(3) investments in

(a) stocks/inventory
(b) production tools and machinery
(c) buildings and improvements
(d) the stock market

Banks and credit bureaus:

(1) credit information
(2) payment information

Miscellaneous sources:

(1) polls and surveys
(2) publications
(3) telephone records
(4) energy and utility purchases


Outputs -- create controlled situations -- manipulation of the economy, hence society

-- control by control of compensation and income.


(1) allocates opportunities.
(2) destroys opportunities.
(3) controls the economic environment.
(4) controls the availability of raw materials.
(5) controls capital.
(6) controls bank rates.
(7) controls the inflation of the currency.
(8) controls the possession of property.
(9) controls industrial capacity.
(10) controls manufacturing.
(11) controls the availability of goods (commodities).
(12) controls the prices of commodities.
(13) controls services, the labor force, etc.
(14) controls payments to government officials.
(15) controls the legal functions.
(16) controls the personal data files -- uncorrectable by the party slandered.
(17) controls advertising.
(18) controls media contact.
(19) controls material available for T.V. viewing
(20) disengages attention from real issues.
(21) engages emotions.
(22) creates disorder, chaos, and insanity.
(23) controls design of more probing tax forms.
(24) controls surveillance.
(25) controls the storage of information.
(26) develops psychological analyses and profiles of individuals.
(27) controls legal functions [repeat of 15]
(28) controls sociological factors.
(29) controls health options.
(30) preys on weakness.
(31) cripples strengths.
(32) leaches wealth and substance.


Do this: To get this:
Keep the public ignorant Less public organization
Maintain access to control points for feedback Required reaction to outputs (prices,

Create preoccupation Lower defenses
Attack the family unit Control of the education of the young
Give less cash and more credit and doles More self-indulgence and more data
Attack the privacy of the church Destroy faith in this sort of government
Social conformity Computer programming simplicity
Minimize the tax protest Maximum economic data, minimum enforcement problems
Stabilize the consent Simplicity coefficients
Tighten control of variables Simpler computer input data -- greater predictability
Establish boundary conditions Problem simplicity / solutions of differential and

difference equations
Proper timing Less data shift and blurring
Maximize control Minimum resistance to control
Collapse of currency Destroy the faith of the American people in each other.


Experience has proven that the simplest method of securing a silent weapon and gaining

control of the public is to keep the public undisciplined and ignorant of basic

systems principles on the one hand, while keeping them confused, disorganized, and

distracted with matters of no real importance on the other hand.

This is achieved by:

(1) disengaging their minds; sabotaging their mental activities; providing a

low-quality program of public education in mathematics, logic, systems design and

economics; and discouraging technical creativity.

(2) engaging their emotions, increasing their self-indulgence and their indulgence in

emotional and physical activities, by:

(a) unrelenting emotional affrontations and attacks (mental and emotional rape) by way

of a constant barrage of sex, violence, and wars in the media -- especially the T.V.

and the newspapers.

(b) giving them what they desire -- in excess -- "junk food for thought" -- and

depriving them of what they really need.

(3) rewriting history and law and subjecting the public to the deviant creation, thus

being able to shift their thinking from personal needs to highly fabricated outside


These preclude their interest in and discovery of the silent weapons of social

automation technology.

The general rule is that there is profit in confusion; the more confusion, the more

profit. Therefore, the best approach is to create problems and then offer the



Media: Keep the adult public attention diverted away from the real social issues, and

captivated by matters of no real importance.

Schools: Keep the young public ignorant of real mathematics, real economics, real law,

and real history.

Entertainment: Keep the public entertainment below a sixth-grade level.

Work: Keep the public busy, busy, busy, with no time to think; back on the farm with

the other animals.


A silent weapon system operates upon data obtained from a docile public by legal (but

not always lawful) force. Much information is made available to silent weapon systems

programmers through the Internal Revenue Service. (See Studies in the Structure of the

American Economy for an I.R.S. source list.)

This information consists of the enforced delivery of well-organized data contained in

federal and state tax forms collected, assembled, and submitted by slave labor

provided by taxpayers and employers.

Furthermore, the number of such forms submitted to the I.R.S. is a useful indicator of

public consent, an important factor in strategic decision making. Other data sources

are given in the Short List of Inputs.

Consent Coefficients -- numerical feedback indicating victory status. Psychological

basis: When the government is able to collect tax and seize private property without

just compensation, it is an indication that the public is ripe for surrender and is

consenting to enslavement and legal encroachment. A good and easily quantified

indicator of harvest time is the number of public citizens who pay income tax despite

an obvious lack of reciprocal or honest service from the government.


The next step in the process of designing an economic amplifier is discovering the

energy sources. The energy sources which support any primitive economic system are, of

course, a supply of raw materials, and the consent of the people to labor and

consequently assume a certain rank, position, level, or class in the social structure;

i.e., to provide labor at various levels in the pecking order.

Each class, in guaranteeing its own level of income, controls the class immediately

below it, hence preserves the class structure. This provides stability and security,

but also government from the top.

As time goes on and communication and education improve, the lower- class elements of

the social labor structure become knowledgeable and envious of the good things that

the upper-class members have. They also begin to attain a knowledge of energy systems

and the ability to enforce their rise through the class structure.

This threatens the sovereignty of the elite.

If this rise of the lower classes can be postponed long enough, the elite can achieve

energy dominance, and labor by consent no longer will hold a position of an essential

economic energy source.

Until such energy dominance is absolutely established, the consent of people to labor

and let others handle their affairs must be taken into consideration, since failure to

do so could cause the people to interfere in the final transfer of energy sources to

the control of the elite.

It is essential to recognize that at this time, public consent is still an essential

key to the release of energy in the process of economic amplification.

Therefore, consent as an energy release mechanism will now be considered.


The successful application of a strategy requires a careful study of inputs, outputs,

the strategy connecting the inputs and the outputs, and the available energy sources

to fuel the strategy. This study is called logistics.

A logistical problem is studied at the elementary level first, and then levels of

greater complexity are studied as a synthesis of elementary factors.

This means that a given system is analyzed, i.e., broken down into its subsystems, and

these in turn are analyzed, until, by this process, one arrives at the logistical

"atom," the individual.

This is where the process of synthesis properly begins, and at the time of the birth

of the individual.


From the time a person leaves its mother's womb, its every effort is directed toward

building, maintaining, and withdrawing into artificial wombs, various sorts of

substitute protective devices or shells.

The objective of these artificial wombs is to provide a stable environment for both

stable and unstable activity; to provide a shelter for the evolutionary processes of

growth and maturity -- i.e., survival; to provide security for freedom and to provide

defensive protection for offensive activity.

This is equally true of both the general public and the elite. However, there is a

definite difference in the way each of these classes go about the solution of



The primary reason why the individual citizens of a country create a political

structure is a subconscious wish or desire to perpetuate their own dependency

relationship of childhood. Simply put, they want a human god to eliminate all risk

from their life, pat them on the head, kiss their bruises, put a chicken on every

dinner table, clothe their bodies, tuck them into bed at night, and tell them that

everything will be alright when they wake up in the morning.

This public demand is incredible, so the human god, the politician, meets

incredibility with incredibility by promising the world and delivering nothing. So who

is the bigger liar? the public? or the "godfather"?

This public behavior is surrender born of fear, laziness, and expediency. It is the

basis of the welfare state as a strategic weapon, useful against a disgusting public.


Most people want to be able to subdue and/or kill other human beings which disturb

their daily lives, but they do not want to have to cope with the moral and religious

issues which such an overt act on their part might raise. Therefore, they assign the

dirty work to others (including their own children) so as to keep the blood off their

own hands. They rave about the humane treatment of animals and then sit down to a

delicious hamburger from a whitewashed slaughterhouse down the street and out of

sight. But even more hypocritical, they pay taxes to finance a professional

association of hit men collectively called politicians, and then complain about

corruption in government.


Again, most people want to be free to do things (to explore, etc.) but they are afraid

to fail.

The fear of failure is manifested in irresponsibility, and especially in delegating

those personal responsibilities to others where success is uncertain or carries

possible or created liabilities (law) which the person is not prepared to accept. They

want authority (root word -- "author"), but they will not accept responsibility or

liability. So they hire politicians to face reality for them.


The people hire the politicians so that the people can:

obtain security without managing it.

obtain action without thinking about it.

inflict theft, injury, and death upon others without having to contemplate either life

or death.

avoid responsibility for their own intentions.

obtain the benefits of reality and science without exerting themselves in the

discipline of facing or learning either of these things.

They give the politicians the power to create and manage a war machine to:

provide for the survival of the nation/womb.

prevent encroachment of anything upon the nation/womb.

destroy the enemy who threatens the nation/womb.

destroy those citizens of their own country who do not conform for the sake of

stability of the nation/womb.

Politicians hold many quasi-military jobs, the lowest being the police which are

soldiers, the attorneys and the C.P.A.s next who are spies and saboteurs (licensed),

and the judges who shout the orders and run the closed union military shop for

whatever the market will bear. The generals are industrialists. The "presidential"

level of commander- in-chief is shared by the international bankers. The people know

that they have created this farce and financed it with their own taxes (consent), but

they would rather knuckle under than be the hypocrite.

Thus, a nation becomes divided into two very distinct parts, a docile sub-nation and a

political sub-nation. The political sub-nation remains attached to the docile

sub-nation, tolerates it, and leaches its substance until it grows strong enough to

detach itself and then devour its parent.


In order to make meaningful computerized economic decisions about war, the primary

economic flywheel, it is necessary to assign concrete logistical values to each

element of the war structure -- personnel and material alike.

This process begins with a clear and candid description of the subsystems of such a


(As military service)

Few efforts of human behavior modification are more remarkable or more effective than

that of the socio-military institution known as the draft. A primary purpose of the

draft or other such institution is to instill, by intimidation, in the young males of

a society the uncritical conviction that the government is omnipotent. He is soon

taught that a prayer is slow to reverse what a bullet can do in an instant. Thus, a

man trained in a religious environment for eighteen years of his life can, by this

instrument of the government, be broken down, be purged of his fantasies and delusions

in a matter of mere months. Once that conviction is instilled, all else becomes easy

to instill.

Even more interesting is the process by which a young man's parents, who purportedly

love him, can be induced to send him off to war to his death. Although the scope of

this work will not allow this matter to be expanded in full detail, nevertheless, a

coarse overview will be possible and can serve to reveal those factors which must be

included in some numerical form in a computer analysis of social and war systems.

We begin with a tentative definition of the draft. The draft (selective service, etc.)

is an institution of compulsory collective sacrifice and slavery, devised by the

middle-aged and the elderly for the purpose of pressing the young into doing the

public dirty work. It further serves to make the youth as guilty as the elders, thus

making criticism of the elders by the youth less likely (Generational Stabilizer). It

is marketed and sold to the public under the label of "patriotic = national" service.

Once a candid economic definition of the draft is achieved, that definition is used to

outline the boundaries of a structure called a Human Value System, which in turn is

translated into the terms of game theory. The value of such a slave laborer is given

in a Table of Human Values, a table broken down into categories by intellect,

experience, post-service job demand, etc.

Some of these categories are ordinary and can be tentatively evaluated in terms of the

value of certain jobs for which a known fee exists. Some jobs are harder to value

because they are unique to the demands of social subversion, for an extreme example:

the value of a mother's instruction to her daughter, causing that daughter to put

certain behavioral demands upon a future husband ten or fifteen years hence; thus, by

suppressing his resistance to a perversion of a government, making it easier for a

banking cartel to buy the State of New York in, say, twenty years.

Such a problem leans heavily upon the observations and data of wartime espionage and

many types of psychological testing. But crude mathematical models (algorithms, etc.)

can be devised, if not to predict, at least to predetermine these events with maximum

certainty. What does not exist by natural cooperation is thus enhanced by calculated

compulsion. Human beings are machines, levers which may be grasped and turned, and

there is little real difference between automating a society and automating a show


These derived values are variable. (It is necessary to use a current Table of Human

Values for computer analysis.) These values are given in true measure rather than U.S.

dollars, since the latter is unstable, being presently inflated beyond the production

of national goods and services so as to give the economy a false kinetic energy

("paper" inductance).

The silver value is stable, it being possible to buy the same amount with a gram of

silver today as could be bought in 1920. Human value measured in silver units changes

slightly due to changes in production technology.



As in every social system approach, stability is achieved only by understanding and

accounting for human nature (action / reaction patterns). A failure to do

10-13-2005, 08:35 AM
You indeed have a supernatural talent to be boring.

10-13-2005, 08:39 AM
Saturnino wrote:
You indeed have a supernatural talent to be boring.

Blaim Lao-Zu. For I shall do All by doing Naught.

My 'boring talent' will vanquish the entire world.

10-13-2005, 08:49 AM
Or, if you prefer my translation: I shall perform AL by shafting LA.

10-13-2005, 08:49 AM


As in every social system approach, stability is achieved only by understanding and

accounting for human nature (action / reaction patterns). A failure to do
Where is the rest of this?

Thanks, rushdoony

10-13-2005, 08:55 AM
rushdoony wrote:


As in every social system approach, stability is achieved only by understanding and

accounting for human nature (action / reaction patterns). A failure to do
Where is the rest of this?

Thanks, rushdoony

I do not know. This is happening beyond myself. I assure you that I only give a Word.

However it comes out it will come out. If there are parts missing, they are not important at this time.

This is of Christ, the True Light. Angels of His power now work strongly in the world to stir up the Armies of Gog and Magog.

I only give a Word. If there are parts missing, then they are hidden. And if they are hidden, then they are not important. For all things of Darkness shall come to the Light.

We no longer care about misunderstanings, mockeries, none of these things. This is War and only War. There is Naught left to destroy.

10-13-2005, 09:12 AM
O Christian Soldier

You shall stamp down you feet where they are.

You shall strap of the boots of War.

You shall open your mouth in open defiance.

You shall call them out.

You shall call them out.

Yell, scream from rooftops.

You shall call them out.

You shall write words on pages of Light

You shall send them out.

War is declared, trouble for the Enemy

You shall march in defiance and rebellion to them.

You shall call them out.

You shall not stop for any

There shall be none to turn you back now.

You shall call them to War

The Leaders of the World you shall call

The Rulers of this Darkness you shall call

The Enemies of God Most High shall you call

And you shall stand before them

You shall call them out

You shall not fear

For He has made you this day a Stone of Iron.

You shall call them out

You shall declare the purse-proud penniless Kings of Dust

You shall not turn back for any

You shall call them out

This is Conquest

This is your Stand

For he destroys the Mystery of Lawlessness with both Word and Power.

For the Kingdom of Heaven comes not with Word only, but with Power.

You will cry to the Slave-Kings of this World.

You will command them and they shall obey you.




You are Kings and Priests

You shall call them out!

10-13-2005, 09:26 AM
Nice survey of strategy and tactics.
I would add that the sheeples are considered the worker bees who must be as productive as possible and at the same time keep up the consumerism.
It is only when people start to wake up and begin to take control of their minds that they are labelled nut cases, disturbed, or troublemakers. This is one of the biggest invisible class barriers that the controllers strive to maintain.

10-13-2005, 09:28 AM



10-13-2005, 09:55 AM
Mmmm sorry im just going to be short and sweet.

Thought of this in the shower this morning, dunno why?
Gog - Ma Gog
Bush - Bush Snr

10-13-2005, 09:59 AM
The Illuminist and Freemason, falsely so-called, is Gog, by translation 'the Roof'. For the Illuminist and Freemason is Satan himself. And he is Prince of the Power of Aethyr.

And these of Magog, those belonging to the Roof:

Woe to the Thelemite!

Woe to the Satanist!

Woe to the Wiccan!

Woe to the Druid!

Woe to the Jewish Infidel!

Woe to Islam!

Woe to the Buddhaist!

Woe to the Taoist!

Woe to the false Christian!

Woe to the Atheist!

Woe to the Agnostic!

Woe, woe, woe to the Enemies of Christ!

Seven times woe to the Illuminist and Freemason! For the Lord himself rebukes thee!

We shall call you out!

You shall enact your war!

For we mock you to scorn openly!

Thy kingdom is finished!

Thy coagula is solved!


10-13-2005, 10:29 AM
If any single person has even one iota of doubt about what we are demanding, then let those doubts be forever dispelled.

We are commanding, defying, and demanding that every single living soul in this world who is not with Christ, who is against God the Father to come out in open warfare and attempt to annihilate Christianity from the face of the earth once and for all time.

No more lethargy will suffice. Before God the Father, Jesus Christ, the Spirit of the Living God; before Angels of His Power and the entire Church of the First Born the Cloud of Witnesses, We will mock you, scorn you, torment you, taunt you until you act!

We will call you out!

And you Will now come forth!

If you do not, then you are utterly put to scorn.

Shut your mouths and go home!

And end, the End comes quickly!

Put up, or shut up!

I defy every commander, leader, king or power in the entire heaven or in the earth or under the earth who is not with Christ at this very hour to make your war!

10-13-2005, 10:34 AM
Um, excuse me, but aren't we supposed to pray for and love our enemies? The true victory of God over the evil in the world is his divine love, not some maudlin call to violence which is inflammatory in nature and runs the risk of polarizing the audience against the very hope which can save them.
Shame on you, fra_nothing.

10-13-2005, 10:40 AM
Bouncer wrote:
Um, excuse me, but aren't we supposed to pray for and love our enemies? The true victory of God over the evil in the world is his divine love, not some maudlin call to violence which is inflammatory in nature and runs the risk of polarizing the audience against the very hope which can save them.
Shame on you, fra_nothing.

We will call you out at this very hour!

No more games. No more talk. No more time.

You will will do what is in your heart. If you reject Christ, if you are not 100% for Christ, if you are an enemy of Christ, we openly defy you.

You are no power.

Your Magick is straw to us.

You have no future.

You have no hope.

We pray for those of Christ!

Fools! Did you not know that Christ prayed for his own and NOT the world!

We call you out!

We stand against you!

We will not serve you!

We will destroy you both in Theory and in Practice!

You are nothing!

Your threats are pure laughter to us!

Make your war ye cowards!

If you do not, then all infernal power in heaven and earth and under the earth is mocked by just one Pauper Christian!

We stamp you down where you stand!

Come ye powers!

Show us thy power!


10-13-2005, 10:51 AM

Are you a script writer for George Bush?

10-13-2005, 10:55 AM
Marsali wrote:

Are you a script writer for George Bush?

The Presiden of the United States of America, George W. Bush has openly declared and chosen his own way. It is the way of the Illuminist. For he is Skull and Bones, that very Brotherhood of Death.

Come forth Mr President! We openly defy you, the UN, and any power you can muster to to stop us from making a public display of your impotence!

Do it! Do it now!

Otherwise, I'm officially the Ruler of the World!

Just one nobody Christian!

If you do not do it, then I proclaim myself Ruler of the World. And I proclaim Christianity as the only World Religion that exists.

Jesus Christ is the King of Heaven and Earth. And if you do not act, then you have shown your impotence against Jesus Christ and now I own the whole bag of nuts.

10-13-2005, 11:01 AM
Fools! Did you not know that whatever is born of God conquers the world?

Did you ever think that the meek would not inherit the earth!

Jesus Christ has utterly vanquished you!

He has placed one Joker over the entirety!

If you will not accept these terms,


Otherwise, Christ wins.

10-13-2005, 11:06 AM
Bouncer wrote:
Um, excuse me, but aren't we supposed to pray for and love our enemies? The true victory of God over the evil in the world is his divine love, not some maudlin call to violence which is inflammatory in nature and runs the risk of polarizing the audience against the very hope which can save them.
Shame on you, fra_nothing.
Spiritual awakening can only follow genuine, heartful suffering, and genuine heartful suffering in general only comes into the world as a consequence of the action and "reactions" of evil-minded individuals. It is in this sense, and for this reasons, that Christians are admonished to love those who persecute them.. For the more you are persecuted, the closer you grow to God, and therefore (in a somewhat twisted way), the more you have to "thank" your persecutors for...

It's kind of an "individual" thing between (a) you; and (b) those who persecute though.

Now that said, sitting around and singing kumbaya all day long isn't going to make the world a better place, or correct the evils that are inherent in this world, which - to some extent - is the responsibility of the Christian. As St. Paul writes in Ephesians 5:11, it is our responsibility to expose the acts of evil and terror that are enthroned in high places. Pray for the Souls of those sinner, perhaps, if you so choose, but remember that you are called (by God's Law) to expose their wrongdoings, to hold them accountable for their actions and to be an agent of justice upon this earth..

10-13-2005, 11:13 AM
Those of Gog and Magog will either make their war at this time, or they are henceforth and forever abrogate both in Theory and in Practice.

As sole Aeonic Ruler on earth, by Right of Inheritance and by all Authority of The Lord Jesus Christ, the Mystery of Iniquity is abrogated.

The Man of Lawlessness is thus destroyed and all those belonging to him.

If you are going to cry about, then make your war, ye cowards!

I own the bag of Runes!

The Diamond is mine!

The Grail is mine!

The Lance is mine!

The fiery pine cone is mine!

The Wand of Mercury is mine!

I hereby proclaim that Jesus Christ is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. He has all power in heaven and earth.

I hereby proclaim that Frater N. is his steward on earth and commands the armies of Gog and Magog to either fight or be slain by Fire and Logos.

10-13-2005, 11:26 AM
The fiery pine cone, fra_n? That's a mighty scary arsenal you've got there....

10-13-2005, 11:34 AM
And the Logos Aeonion is mine.

Illuminati, Satanism, Thelema, Wicca, Islam, Judaism, Buddhaism, Taoism, Agnosticism, Atheism, and all other enemies of Jesus Christ are destroyed.

They are cowards. Jesus Christ is the True Light that was before the foundation of the World.

He has set a Pure Fool as Ruler over all the infernal power.

And now he commands the NWO to come out and fight with the 'big boys'!

10-13-2005, 01:27 PM
Declaration of War from the Crown

By Authority given to me by the Lord Jesus Christ, this formal declaration of war is declared to the ihabitants of the earth and its respective angelic hierarchies who reside in a state of anarchy against the Crown of Heaven.

Woe, woe, woe to the hypocritical houses of God!
Woe, woe, woe to the outer court of the Goyim!
Woe, woe, woe to those beyond the Temple!
Woe, woe, woe to the Artium Autem!
Woe, woe, woe to those who call Evil Good and Good Evil!
Who put Darkness for Light and Light for Darkness!

Now this Declaration shall be seen of the inhabitants of the earth: Blood, Fire, and Vapour of Smoke before the Great and Terrible Day of the LORD!

The Illuminati are utterly mocked by the the LORD and His Armies.

For it is written:

"Why did the Nations rage
And the People imagine vain things?
The Kings of the Earth set themselves
The Rulers take Councel between

Against the Lord and his Anointed they say
Let us break their bars asunder
And cast their cords away

The LORD laughs, who sits in Heaven
YHWH shall hold them in Derision
He will speak to them in His Anger
He will vex them in His Sore Displeasure

But I have set that King of Mine
Upon my Holy Mount of Zion
I will declare the Decree the LORD hath spoken unto Me
'Thou art My Son, This Day have I begotten Thee.'

Ask of Me and I shall give thee Gentiles as thine Inheritance
And the Nations shall I give to thee for Possession

Thou shalt break Them with the Iron Rod
Thou shalt smash Them as a Potters Jar

Be wise now therefore, O yee Kings
Be instructed ye Judges of the Earth

Serve the LORD with Fear
And rejoice with Trembling

Kiss the Son lest he have Wrath
And consume Ye quickly from the Path
And when Anger is Kindled but Small
Blessed are they who Trust in Him All

Then this declaration of war shall be your Ruin O Powers of Earth.
And end, the End comes! Now wail, and howl, and weep, and moan for the torments that await you.

For the LORD hath a Great Initiation prepared for the Illuminanti. The LORD hath thy Inner Circle in wait. Thy Residence unto Aeons of Aeons shall be in Outer Darkness, consummed in Black Flame of Everlasting Torment and Destruction from the Glory of His Brightness.

Feast! Feast! Ye Thelemites! Ye Satanists! Ye Illuminati blind ones! For thy Great Reward is come! Feast for Death, ye cult of Death! For thy Death is come to uttermost!

The LORD hath proclaimed a Great Feast Day for you! The Ravens of the Air shall pick thy Bones clean!

10-13-2005, 01:52 PM
Well-said, P. I like the balance of your statement.
As for exposing and destroying the works of evil: my participation in this forum is part of that for me. I only wish that I could find a fellowship in my area with the same vision.
I mean, with all due respect to our President, if the man wants to "fight evil", then he ought to expose and eliminate the Finders, McMarten schools, the Michael Aquinos and others like him.
Why doesn't he fight the abduction, torture, molestation, and murder of our innocent children by those who hide behind the great oath???

10-13-2005, 01:59 PM
George W. Bush the President of the United States of America stands as an Enemy of the Crown of Heaven!

Make no mistake, blind ones! This Declaration is against Skull and Bones as well!

President Bush has joined ranks and clapsed hands with Satan. Then let him fight on the side of Satan! For he is none of Us!

The Time is at hand. There is no more backing down! You will make your war, O Kings of the Earth! For you are destroyed by the Spirit of His Mouth!

Fallen! Fallen! Fallen! art thou O Lucifer!
Fallen! Fallen! Fallen art thou Novus Ordo Seclorum!

The Kingdom of this World is the Kingdom of Our Lord and of His Christ!

We shall call you out!

10-13-2005, 02:15 PM
Dear Fraulein Underscore Nothing ( F.U.N. )

You are a very talented writer.
What is your IQ, 200?
If you ever wrote a book it
would sell in the millions
of copies.

Alternatively, someone here
thought you were an agent
provocateur for the CIA or something.
There's probably a
1 in 10,000,000,000,000 chance
of that being true, in my mind.

Keep up the good work.

By the way, just one question,
...How much could a Journalistic CIA
Agent Provocateur earn per year?

10-13-2005, 02:20 PM
The CIA stands as an Enemy of the Crown of Heaven! These are none of Us!

These are slaves of Novus Ordo Seclorum!

Woe, woe, woe to the CIA! That Intelligence without Intellect!

Let the CIA fight for Gog and Magog!


You are destroyed!

Thy plans are utterly foiled!

You have been brought to Light!

You are wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and naked!

WOE to the New World Order in opposition to the King of Heaven!


And you will come to fight us!

For we are your enemies indeed!

We shall command you, and you shall obey!




10-13-2005, 02:28 PM
Thou hast woven thy cloak of erudition and donned it in the fury of the Church of the Perpetual Metaphor.
Yeah, good writing, too. Please tell us that it is original?

10-13-2005, 02:32 PM
Oh and by the way, fra_nothing, if in fact you are using the principle of speaking and writing in faith in order to bring it to reality, there just might be something to it; please be sure that it is in obedience to God's will.
In te, piu Iesu, spem dedisti.

As for having no need of elemental spirits: I'm going to place your ravens in a hermetically sealed bag and toss it into the freezer.

10-13-2005, 02:35 PM
Thy Kingdom come!

Thy Will be done,

on earth as it is in Heaven!

One Hundred Million Angels of Light!

We shall call them out!

Another King shall Rule in Splender!

We shall call them out!

The Last Trumpet!

The Shofar of Glory!

We shall call them out!

No One Knows the Day or Hour!

We shall call them out!

Battle! Armour! Lightening! Thunder!

We shall call them out!

Circle, Square from Yore and Yonder!

We shall call them out!

Rage of Justice, Twain in Sunder!

Empire no more! No longer!

We shall call them out!

We shall call them out!

We shall call them out!

We shall call them out!

We shall call them out!

We shall call them out!

We shall call them out!

We shall call them out!

We shall call them out!

We shall call them out!

We shall call them out!

We shall call them out!


10-13-2005, 02:50 PM
You know, if you put those words to music, you'd have a hell of an album.
As for the CIA: there are a lot of honorable men and women employed by that organization. Let's focus on the principle of individual accountability, shall we? This little slip of yours is disturbing to me. Yellow flag.

10-13-2005, 03:00 PM
No slip of the tongue, but a focussed flame of light fired directly into the Eye of Novus Ordo Seclorum!

WE shall call them out!

We SHALL call them out!

We shall CALL them out!

We shall call THEM out!

We shall call them OUT!

10-13-2005, 03:22 PM


Did you forget that Christ Jesus binds up and makes free?


Did you forget that coagula was only based on freewill of those who would be bound?






And they will surely obey us!

It is Divine Law!

It is the Dream of all creation from the Fall!

For all creation itself groans for the Liberty of the Sons of Light!









Dost thou have oppresion?



For the Son of the Living God hath made us free and free indeed!


For we shall call them out!

For the cipher is loosed!

The Father is unbound in his Sons!

We shall call them out and they will surely be forced to it!

For they only know the Black Light!

They only know the Coagula!

They know not the Light!

They know naught of Solve!


They did not know that only a Christian could ever Solve the cipher in LIBER AL VEL LEGIS!

See! Behold! Lo!

Join! March! Rise up! Rise up!



If you want to leave this world, if your hope is set on heaven, then WE SHALL CALL THEM OUT OF EXISTANCE!

We shall surely prevail!

It is beyond doubt!

It is a Promise of God bound with an Eternal Oath of Propecy from the Lord Jesus Christ Himself!

The End is to be of Our own Freewill united with that Eternal Will of the Father!


10-13-2005, 03:41 PM

Too much poetry now.
I'm not learning anything.
Is this yours or are you just
copying from a book?


10-13-2005, 03:44 PM
Yo fra,
I second that, but you know what? When I first learned of MONARCH and the other trauma-based programs, I went temp insane with rage. So, get it all out; let the catharsis be complete, brother.

10-13-2005, 03:46 PM
Let him who will hear hear. Let him who will forebear forebear. For the Time is at hand.

Let him who is filthy be filthy still. Let him who is just be just still.

For the Time is at hand.

We shall call them out!

10-13-2005, 05:18 PM

10-13-2005, 05:39 PM
I don't like to be harsh on those who are mentally ill, but you are definitely in need of serious psychiatric attention.

If you have friends, they should know this and, if they are your friends, they would help you.

Please seek help!

This forum has endured you long enough.

It is time for you to move on.

You are obviously, as Bruce Springsteen describes, a "lost soul."

Maybe you should visit his forum. You'd fit right in!

10-13-2005, 06:07 PM
Ha! Ha! Ha!

Liars! The Illuminati is no power! Where is Big Brother, now?

You are laughed to scorn! Cowardly lions! Dogs who bark!

Come forth if you dare!

For the Illuminati is destroyed before your very eyes!

We shall call them out!

10-13-2005, 06:10 PM
We know, we know, call em out. Are you a country song writer, Flauros?

10-13-2005, 06:43 PM
In one of his other "alters," he's a preacher and a rock and roll star.


10-14-2005, 07:08 AM
BlueAngel wrote:
In one of his other "alters," he's a preacher and a rock and roll star.


Who art thou to accuse one of having alters, 'BlueAngel'? Hypocrite.

We shall call them out!

10-14-2005, 07:31 AM
Um, which two cities within the contiguous 48 states are historically known as extremely vulnerable to cataclysmic destruction?
1) New Orleans
2) San Fransisco
And which two cities within the contiguous 48 states are historically known as the headquarters of satanic organizations and activities?
1) New Orleans
2) San Fransisco
Process Church, Temple of Set, Church of Satan, et al.
I believe that this is more than coincidence.

10-14-2005, 07:45 AM
909 Square New Orleans N.O.L.A. = FAll of the House of the Rising Sun on all planes.

909 SHAZAM = ShITsMah=Flood

909 TARGET River Side / San Bernardino


"If you gotta go, go with a smile."

10-14-2005, 08:12 AM
Salva nobis, domine, de profundo lacu.
He who laughs last laughs the longest.

10-14-2005, 08:22 AM
fra_nothing wrote:

BlueAngel wrote:
In one of his other "alters," he's a preacher and a rock and roll star.


Who art thou to accuse one of having alters, 'BlueAngel'? Hypocrite.

We shall call them out!

Excuse me, IDIOT, but having been a victim of a mind control program where alters are created through trauma-based torture, I don't think I ever insinuated that I didn't have alters.


I think you wear that well.

10-14-2005, 08:26 AM

Why don't you CALL OUT my other alters?

What are their names???

10-14-2005, 08:36 AM
fra_nothing wrote:

BlueAngel wrote:
In one of his other "alters," he's a preacher and a rock and roll star.


Who art thou to accuse one of having alters, 'BlueAngel'? Hypocrite.

We shall call them out!


10-14-2005, 09:11 AM
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10-14-2005, 09:18 AM
igwt wrote:
This site gets more and more interesting?

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10-14-2005, 09:20 AM
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10-14-2005, 09:31 AM

How come your name doesn't highlight when I POINT AT IT?

All the others do.

What makes you so special?

Pleasant dreams!

10-14-2005, 10:07 AM
BlueAngel, thou art Dulcinea!

10-14-2005, 10:09 AM

10-14-2005, 10:14 AM
Insider wrote:


Magick foo-foo powder.

10-14-2005, 10:48 AM
Don't you have to hypnotize me or something?

Just "thou art?"

Those are the magik words?

Is Dulcinea one of my "sex slave" names?

Cause I'm sure you have no other use for me!!

10-14-2005, 11:29 AM
fra_nothing, thou art MA'AT EM-SAT!!!


10-14-2005, 02:28 PM
Bouncer wrote:
fra_nothing, thou art MA'AT EM-SAT!!!


Well, what are you making all that fuss about it for?

It's not my fault I destroyed the Antichrist with the Spirit of His Mouth!

Don't try and blame me for YOUR sins!

That's my job, you no? That's what I do.

It's good honest Work, and I enjoy it.

10-14-2005, 02:37 PM
Oh, ooops! Sorry, i mean MAATI EM-SA. That's better!

10-14-2005, 02:45 PM
Spin me 'till i'm clean & dry
My brain don't stop spinning
And i won't know why.

Spin the wheels that stop on a rhyme
Don't stop to think or you're out of time.

They spin wrong
To feel like right
And cloak the day
To look like night.

Spint the globe a cocoon of lies
'Till we all become twisted butterflys.

And so it is that the BEAST will seem like a savior because we will need emergence from the trauma and fear that the secret architects of DOOM created.

10-14-2005, 05:15 PM
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10-14-2005, 05:17 PM
Insider wrote:
4 9 2

3 5 7 Z A P H I E L

8 1 6

Today's Seaseme Street is brought to you by:

The Number 0

And the letter N

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10-14-2005, 05:21 PM
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10-14-2005, 05:30 PM
Insider wrote:
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5 11 10 8

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10-14-2005, 05:36 PM
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10-14-2005, 05:40 PM
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10-14-2005, 05:43 PM
You didn't read that post. Now did you.

10-14-2005, 05:46 PM
Insider wrote:
You didn't read that post. Now did you.

Eye Sh-Al due Not.

10-14-2005, 05:52 PM

10-14-2005, 05:55 PM

10-14-2005, 10:48 PM
fra_nothing wrote:
BlueAngel, thou art Dulcinea!

You're absolutely right. You cannot drive a madman crazy.

10-15-2005, 12:58 AM
BlueAngel wrote:

fra_nothing wrote:
BlueAngel, thou art Dulcinea!

You're absolutely right. You cannot drive a madman crazy.


The Illuminati is openly mocked. They are rendered null and void.

The Illuminati is finished, destroyed. Curse the Illuminati! Damn them to hell if they have no changes!

So mote be it!

In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.

10-15-2005, 01:33 AM
I can play your pathetic game better than you can, O foolish Illuminist.

Now this is War to the uttermost. It is of God's own Will that you be destroyed from the face of the earth forever. And this happens BEFORE the Great White Throne Judement. If you doubt this, then you had better read Revelation again.

I call you out in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.

We call you out to make your war!

You cannot hide any longer. Your time is finished.

This world has had enough time to turn to Christ. Yet it does not turn to Him, but turns further and further to Satan.

They can have Satan to the full!

And they can have the eternal reward of Satan!

You will do what you claim you can do.

We will accept none of your threats any longer.

Your blasphemies are at an end.

You delusions are dispelled before your very eyes.

Now you will attack us physically.

And you will be burnt alive and cast into the Lake of Fire.

Your time is over. The Mystery of Iniquity is vanquished forever. There is no more Antichrist to come. This was your one chance for all time. And you have lost the war.

Now make your final assault or turn to Jesus Christ. Those are your choices.

We accept no alternatives.

I declare before the Eternal Trinity of Heaven this day that I am only a Christian and nothing more. I am no Beast. I am no Illuminist. I am 100% for Christ Jesus.

And in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, King of Kings, Lord of Lords, I demand that the NWO and all its affiliates make their final assault against Christianity. Now!

10-15-2005, 09:48 AM


10-15-2005, 10:04 AM
What is it that you want from this forum, fra nothing?
Are you from one of the many Illuminati branches, sent here as an obstructionist?
Or do you have a personal grudge against a forum such as this, which is intended as a place to exchance ideas and info on the NWO?
Or are you here because your O.T.O. handler has promised you a further initiation into the great mysteries if you are successful in destroying this forum?
Or perhaps you're just angry and hurt that we aren't accepting your personal agenda. But this forum wasn't intended to be used as a place for the aggressive promotion of anyone's personal agenda.
The Christ that you say that you serve isn't the same as the Jesus Christ of the holy bible. What you're serving is something entirely different; what is it?
In having a look at the O.T.O. Grand Lodge website, they use the same odd 'hellfire and brimstone' language that you use, fra. Reading parts of that website is just like reading one of your posts.

10-15-2005, 10:10 AM



10-15-2005, 10:43 AM
fra_nothing said:

I hereby proclaim that Jesus Christ is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. He has all power in heaven and earth.

Jesus or God ?!

Appendix 22 of the Authorized english translation of Quran by the messenger of the covenant prophesied in Malakhi 3:1-3; Rashad Khalifa (http://www.submission.org/Q-T.html)

Jesus, the Quranic view.
In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful

The Quran, informs us that Jesus was a human messenger of God whose sole mission was to deliver God's message; he never possessed any power, and is now dead (4:171, 5:75, 117).
Those who consider Jesus to be God, or Son of God, or part of a trinity are "pagans" (5:17, 72, 73). Outstanding Christian scholars have reached these same conclusions (THE MYTH OF GOD INCARNATE, John Hick, ed., The Westminster Press, Philadelphia, 1977 & THE MYTH MAKER, Hyam Maccoby,Harper & Row 1986). Christianity is the product of Nicene (AD 325).
The Bible's Jesus

Jesus proclaimed aloud: ``Whoever puts faith in me believes not so much in me as in him who sent me; ..... For I have not spoken on my own; no, the Father who sent me has commanded me what to say and how to speak. Since I know that his commandment means eternal life, whatever I say is spoken just as he instructed me.'' [ John 12:44-50 ]

"I cannot do anything of myself. I judge as I hear, and my judgment is honest because I am not seeking my own will but the will of him who sent me." [ John 5:30 ]

Jesus said: ``My doctrine is not my own; it comes from him who sent me.'' [ John 7:16 ]

"Men of Israel, listen to me! Jesus the Nazorean was a man whom God sent to you with miracles, wonders, and signs as his credentials. These God worked through him in your midst, as you well know."
[ Acts 2:22 ]

``...The man who hears my word and has faith in him who sent me possesses eternal life.''
[ John 5:24 ]

"Whoever welcomes me welcomes, not me, but him who sent me."
[ Matthew 10:40, Mark 9:37, Luke 9:48, & John 13:20 ]

``...I have not come of myself. I was sent by One who has the right to send, and him you do not know. I know him because it is from him I come; he sent me.'' [ John 7:28-29 ]

Jesus looked up to heaven and said, ``...Eternal life is this: to know you, the only true God, and him whom you have sent, Jesus Christ.'' [ John 17:1-3 ]

All who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God.
[ Romans 8:14 ]

Jesus looked upward and said, ``Father, I thank you for having heard me. I know that you always hear me but I have said this for the sake of the crowd, that they may believe that you sent me.''
[ John 11:41-42 ]

As he was setting out on a journey a man came running up, knelt down before him and asked, ``Good Teacher, what must I do to share in everlasting life?'' Jesus answered, ``Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone.'' [ Mark 10:17-18 ]

``None of those who call me `Lord' will enter the kingdom of God, but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven."
[ Matthew 7:21 ]

``...Go to my brothers and tell them, `I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.' '' [ John 20:17 ]

``God is my Lord and your Lord; you shall worship Him alone. This is the right path."
[ Quran 3:51, 19:36, & 43:64 ]

Trinity, the doctrine of God taught by Christians that asserts that God is one in essence but three in ``person,'' Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Neither the word Trinity, nor the explicit doctrine as such,
appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: ``Hear O Israel: The Lord our God is one'' (Deut. 6:4).
[ Encyclopedia Britannica, 1975 ]
Jesus' Death

This has been the single most controversial subject in the world. The Quran's miraculous mathematical code has now provided the final answer to this topic:

Jesus' soul was raised, i.e., he was put to death prior to the arrest and crucifixion of his body. Thus, his persecutors arrested, tortured, and crucified an empty body - Jesus was already gone to the world of souls (3:55, 4:157).

They plotted and schemed, but so did God, and God is the best schemer. Thus, God said,
``O Jesus, I am putting you to death, and raising you to Me; I will save you from the disbelievers.''
[ Quran 3:54-55 ]

They claimed that they killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of God! In fact, they never killed him; they never crucified him; they were led to believe that they did.
[ Quran 4:157 ]

Mercifully, God has given our generation a living example of a person whose soul departed this world, but his body continued to live for 19 months. On November 25, 1984, doctors at the Humana Hospital of Louisville, Kentucky removed the diseased heart of Mr. William Schroeder and replaced it with a plastic and metal pump (THE NEW YORK TIMES, Monday, November 26, 1984).

On the 19th day after this historic operation - Thursday, December 13, 1984 - Mr. Schroeder, the soul, the real person, departed this world. Mr. Schroeder died. But his body continued to function with the artificial heart implanted in his body. The world was told that he "probably suffered a stroke" (THE NEW YORK TIMES, December 14, 1984).

Significantly, only one day before Mr. Schroeder's departure, he talked with President Ronald Reagan on national TV, and demanded that the Social Security Administration send his overdue check. He was
perfectly alert. From the moment "he suffered a stroke," he did not recognize the day or time, nor his family members. In fact, Mr.Schroeder was no longer in this world.
The Gospels state clearly that the arrested body of Jesus was oblivious to the events surrounding it: The chief priests, meanwhile, brought many accusations against Jesus. Pilate interrogated him again: "Surely you have some answer? See how many accusations they are leveling against you."
But greatly to Pilate's surprise, Jesus made no further response. [ Mark 15:3-5 ]
Herod was extremely pleased to see Jesus. From the reports about him he had wanted for a long time to see him, and he was hoping to see him work some miracles. He questioned Jesus at considerable length, but Jesus made no response. The chief priests and scribes were at hand to accuse him vehemently. Herod and his guards then treated him with contempt and insult. [ Luke 23:8-11 ]

The Savior said to me, "He whom you saw on the tree, glad and laughing, this is the living Jesus. But this one into whose hands and feet they drive the nails is the fleshly part. [Apocalypse of Peter, VII, 3, 81] from THE NAG HAMMADI LIBRARY (Harper & Row, 1977, James M.Robinson, ed, Page 339).

The facts that
(1) Mr. Schroeder's soul departed on the 19th day after the operation, and
(2) his body survived for 19 months, are uncanny reminders that God wanted the world to know the parallel between Schroeder's situation, and the proven account of Jesus' departure prior to the arrest, torture, and crucifixion of his soulless body.