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10-21-2005, 09:40 AM
Why is it okay for white Jews (Ashkenazim) to sub-divide themselves from the Sephardic lower IQ? (Forty-five percent of Israel's population has the Sephardic IQ of 88.)

And it is not okay for other White ethnics to be able to do the same when reporting IQ scores? For example, at the very minimum, it would show Northern and Western Europeans to be comparable if not slightly higher than the Jewish-white IQ, when you eliminate the Eastern European IQ. In some categories the European-White IQ is way higher, such as in spatial reasoning, even for all White ethnics including the Eastern European. This is rarely reported in the mass media. I wonder why? It reminds me of a joke from the Jewish comedian David Steinberg, who is married to an Italian-Catholic: "Whenever I go to family gatherings, the Jewish side breaks things, and the Italian side fixes them!"

In folk psychology and folk sociology, when it comes to E. Q., even my Jewish supremacist acquaintances and friends will think they have been culturally short changed, thinking of themselves as an unhappy lot.

In aesthetics Jews "seem" to have an inferiority complex when it comes to physical aptitude, which I have argued with my Jewish friends, is absolutely uncalled for! For instance, in "folk talk," my Jewish girlfriends believe what is often said (even by Bobby Fischer) about Jewish men in the "below the belt" department, that they have been short changed from all that inbreeding.

And what about Jewish women? Again, referring to David Steinberg's promulgation of the joke: "What moves more Jell-O or Jewish women in bed". The rate of Jewish men running away to marry "shiksa's" for the under 35 age category is as high as 35-50%, depending on which data you want to embrace.

Are we to make a correlation from any of this?

The point being, it is hard to define what is a "Jewish brain" in the secular world. You mention the high percentage of Jewish Nobel Prize winners since its inception in 1901, yet about two-thirds of the Jewish winners come from inter-faith/inter-ethnic backgrounds. For centuries before 1901, the portion of Jewish contributions to the high sciences is almost void.

To refer to chess master Bobby Fischer (another one of those 1/2 Jews), is slanderous to Jews. Your readers should be aware that he hates Jews with a fervent passion, and blames virtually any bad that is happening in the world on world Jewry.

You wrote: "Of course, there's another side to this shining coin. Jewish cleverness has also been an enduring feature of anti-Semitic paranoia."



The implication here for your readers misunderstanding is that anti-Semitism is the result of Jewish intellect. Historically it has been as a result of resource competition, belief in a moral and intellectual superiority and a fierce policy of non assimilation with the host countries which initially offered you admittance with friendliness. Anti-Semitism is not in any way a mental illness.


Western Civilization is a European-white accomplishment and Judaism has always been an appendage. Not the other way around. We are a better world today because Western Civilization took the road to Athens over the road to Jerusalem.

If we had a proper scientific study involving IQ tests that are not skewed to fit one group in particular (by, for example, including musical intelligence tests that are currently excluded because some people "don't believe in" musical intelligence) then all this Jewish intellectual narcissism would disappear up its own arsehole. Which is precisely why we will never see such a thing, for it would be truly "anti-semitic".

One last thing, it's too much of a reach to think that Charlemagne "lured" Jews there to lend money. Give me a break!

55132
10-21-2005, 11:47 PM
I would like to add to your excellent post that the legacy of Christian thought has been key in europa. one would not be without the other. Had europa been muslim we would still be living like in the 6 century ac. had it been jewish we would have been slaves to the sanhedrin.

How many great jewish painters,musicians,scientist... do we know before the 20th century? very few if any.

thought today is temperd by the jewish media, made posible by purchases made in the 19th century with interest free rothchild money

Khopesh
10-22-2005, 01:44 AM
Anyone ever seen Star Trek?
It makes me laugh whenever the all selfish, overpoweringly greedy Feregi race makes an apearance, whos racial design is clearly based on the Jews.
Seriously though surely the finacial situation has to be a factor, if your a race of people that ritually hords wealth and does not share it around for the betterment of the wider community surely you get richer and they get poorer.
Money wasnt ment for this reason, basic economics dictates that it must flow, and flow through the whole community not just into scrooge type peoples pockets.
If you do happen to belong to a Ferengi type race and do steal/parasite the fruit of the community you inhabit surely its reasonable to assume that your offspring are going to be better educated than the others.
Even with this innate financial discrimination they are clearly not more intelligent than the European or the Asian for that matter, unless you consider greed and conspiracy against you fellow man to be intelligent.
Intelligence is not a far cry from wisdom.

igwt
10-22-2005, 01:49 AM
Cunning doesn't equal intelligent

nomad
10-22-2005, 07:22 AM
55132 wrote:
I would like to add to your excellent post that the legacy of Christian thought has been key in europa. one would not be without the other. Had europa been muslim we would still be living like in the 6 century ac. had it been jewish we would have been slaves to the sanhedrin.

How many great jewish painters,musicians,scientist... do we know before the 20th century? very few if any.

thought today is temperd by the jewish media, made posible by purchases made in the 19th century with interest free rothchild money


Jews were respecting the commandment of not

worshipping any graven images hence careers in the

arts were not seen in a positive light at the

time.

nomad
10-22-2005, 07:23 AM
Khopesh wrote:
Anyone ever seen Star Trek?
It makes me laugh whenever the all selfish, overpoweringly greedy Feregi race makes an apearance, whos racial design is clearly based on the Jews.
Seriously though surely the finacial situation has to be a factor, if your a race of people that ritually hords wealth and does not share it around for the betterment of the wider community surely you get richer and they get poorer.
Money wasnt ment for this reason, basic economics dictates that it must flow, and flow through the whole community not just into scrooge type peoples pockets.
If you do happen to belong to a Ferengi type race and do steal/parasite the fruit of the community you inhabit surely its reasonable to assume that your offspring are going to be better educated than the others.
Even with this innate financial discrimination they are clearly not more intelligent than the European or the Asian for that matter, unless you consider greed and conspiracy against you fellow man to be intelligent.
Intelligence is not a far cry from wisdom.

It is still a Jew at the head of the

Enterprise ... is it any different on the

spaceship called Earth ?

nomad
10-22-2005, 07:25 AM
igwt wrote:
Cunning doesn't equal intelligent


It's human to focus on the black side of the

issue ... trying looking at the white side as

well ... doesn't the old testament say that

the Jews shall be a BLESSING to the entire

human race ?

Draken
10-22-2005, 07:49 AM
I have to say it's surprising how during all our discussions of God, religion and spirituality NOBODY seems to get the fact that there are DIFFERENT types and styles of sprituality and differing attitudes towards spiritual realities. Everyone seems stuck in the idea that the ONLY type of spirituality is the so-called Judeo-Christian one of the "desert religions" and that NO OTHER SPIRITUALITY EXISTS.

Nomad, so what if the Old Testament writes that Jews shall be a blessing to the entire human race?

Firstly, there are other scriptures apart from the Judeo-Christian OT. The OT is NOT relevant to all peoples.

Secondly, the Jewish supremacists you seem to belong to consider themselves the ONLY HUMANS and all non-Jews animals, so really that's another reason the OT - and especially this passage you're quoting - is NOT relevant to non-Jews: the "human race" the Jews are supposed to be the blessing to is, according to the Jews, the Jews themselves, AND ONLY THE JEWS.
The OT claim that the Jews are supposed to be a blessing to the "entire human race" has been distorted by the Jews themselves and used to fool non-Jews to believe the false doctrine of "equality among all human races", while the Jews consider themselves superior and hence NOT equal to non-Jews.

Thirdly, the OT has been falsified, forged, misinterpreted, misunderstood so much there's hardly any point in refering to it, since there are so many much more reliable sources and scriptures not tampered with. And of course, who did most of the tampering of the OT?

nomad
10-22-2005, 08:08 AM
Draken ... the "OT" is based on a CHECKSUM system

very similar to how modern day computers work to

ensure that the integrity of the information

gets transmitted and received with ZERO chance

of failure or distortion ...

if you learn basic Hebrew someone with your

intelligence will very quickly see how absurd

the idea of a corrupted old testament is ... I

would also like to point out the NO other

religion or belief system has such a C-H-E-C-K-S-

U-M system ... not the New Testament, not the

Vedas not the Koran ... ONLY the Torah has a

checksum system. Do you understand what this

means ?

Draken
10-22-2005, 08:22 AM
I don't care.

I'm pretending to live in the Middle Ages or an era even more remote, when people in the Northern hemisphere had no chance of coming in contact with any scriptures, fake or real, from the Middle East. All I need to read is scriptures relevant and corresponding to my spiritual attitude and geographical location. Believe me, peoples had/have their OWN spiritual and religious systems and cosmologies, without having to turn to the OT, modern checksum systems or not.

You should know by now that I am not impressed with modernities, not even computers. I've told Ahmad before and I'm telling you the same thing now: I don't need mathematical "proof" of ANY kind to know which belief system/religion is the "right" one. How ridiculous to try to convince people with "rational" arguments of an irrational, superrational, transcendent reality!

Forget it, nomad.

Neither you nor Ahmad will ever convince me with such feeble, pragmatic, materialist "arguments".

nomad
10-22-2005, 08:27 AM
Draken ... we are all free to believe in

mathematics or not hence the beauty of humanity.

55132
10-22-2005, 08:31 AM
nomad wrote:

55132 wrote:
I would like to add to your excellent post that the legacy of Christian thought has been key in europa. one would not be without the other. Had europa been muslim we would still be living like in the 6 century ac. had it been jewish we would have been slaves to the sanhedrin.

How many great jewish painters,musicians,scientist... do we know before the 20th century? very few if any.

thought today is temperd by the jewish media, made posible by purchases made in the 19th century with interest free rothchild money


Jews were respecting the commandment of not

worshipping any graven images hence careers in the

arts were not seen in a positive light at the

time.



nomad

oK but what about science, literature, architecture,music,.......

55132
10-22-2005, 08:32 AM

55132
10-22-2005, 08:34 AM
nomad wrote:
Draken ... the "OT" is based on a CHECKSUM system

very similar to how modern day computers work to

ensure that the integrity of the information

gets transmitted and received with ZERO chance

of failure or distortion ...

if you learn basic Hebrew someone with your

intelligence will very quickly see how absurd

the idea of a corrupted old testament is ... I

would also like to point out the NO other

religion or belief system has such a C-H-E-C-K-S-

U-M system ... not the New Testament, not the

Vedas not the Koran ... ONLY the Torah has a

checksum system. Do you understand what this

means ?


The checks sum system is a tamudic/kabalistic interpretation. if you belive it then you are either on of them or an ignorant.

55132
10-22-2005, 08:37 AM
nomad wrote:

igwt wrote:
Cunning doesn't equal intelligent


It's human to focus on the black side of the

issue ... trying looking at the white side as

well ... doesn't the old testament say that

the Jews shall be a BLESSING to the entire

human race ?

if you read the old testament not just the torah you will see a far different picture. The Israelite where setting altars and sacrificing children to Moloch disregarding God altogether. just look at king Solomon he ended his days serving the devil that in spite of having been blessed by God with wisdom and riches beyond anything in his times.

Why do you think you and your brethren are all over the world. Even your God (which is mine also) could no longer stand silent against your peoples actions and misgivings.

he gave to gentiles so that israelite would shame on themselves.

yes nomad someday the israelite will be a blessing to the world but they will not be the Rothschild, kazars, askenazi, sefards... it will be a clean version of your people a remnant after there near wipe out in the end times.

do you think that God would permit the Israelis to be almost wiped out for nothing? In your brethren blossom lies the seed of Satan in many ways they still serve Moloch they are still causing death to children via abortion and still venerate money as there end in life.

so nomad you who have the burden of choosing sides.

nomad
10-22-2005, 10:29 AM
55132 wrote:

nomad wrote:
Draken ... the "OT" is based on a CHECKSUM system

very similar to how modern day computers work to

ensure that the integrity of the information

gets transmitted and received with ZERO chance

of failure or distortion ...

if you learn basic Hebrew someone with your

intelligence will very quickly see how absurd

the idea of a corrupted old testament is ... I

would also like to point out the NO other

religion or belief system has such a C-H-E-C-K-S-

U-M system ... not the New Testament, not the

Vedas not the Koran ... ONLY the Torah has a

checksum system. Do you understand what this

means ?


The checks sum system is a tamudic/kabalistic interpretation. if you belive it then you are either on of them or an ignorant.


Math doesn't lie and there is NO room for

interpretation ... just like their is no room

for interpretation in the checksum done by the

computer that allows you to be able to read this.

nomad
10-22-2005, 10:36 AM
55132 wrote:

nomad wrote:

55132 wrote:
I would like to add to your excellent post that the legacy of Christian thought has been key in europa. one would not be without the other. Had europa been muslim we would still be living like in the 6 century ac. had it been jewish we would have been slaves to the sanhedrin.

How many great jewish painters,musicians,scientist... do we know before the 20th century? very few if any.

thought today is temperd by the jewish media, made posible by purchases made in the 19th century with interest free rothchild money


Jews were respecting the commandment of not

worshipping any graven images hence careers in the

arts were not seen in a positive light at the

time.



nomad

oK but what about science, literature, architecture,music,.......

Remember, the Christian world kept the

Jews locked up in ghettos in order to

control them and barred them from anything

that would give them power and yet despite

all this they found a way out.

Draken
10-22-2005, 03:26 PM
Nomad, 2+2=4, no doubt, but what if your whole life you believed 2 to be 2, but found out that what you thought was 2 actually is 3?

My mom said once to me that we are told to consider the amount of 1 to be a low amount, but that she always considered 1 to be the largest amount, because it encompasses everything; she sees it representing the "whole", as opposed to a smaller "part".

See, you can certainly interpret mathematics literally, rationally, abstractly, symbolically, even anagogically...

Not everyone sees the world the way "Jews" see the world, no matter how hard the "Jews" try to coerce the world to see it their way.

Actually, this made me think of a very important point.

Numbers and letters in an alphabet are used to form words to convey concepts of realities, but they are NOT IN THEMSELVES the reality they are conveying. So writing ideas down on paper simply makes it possible to manipulate the WORDS conveying a certain reality, not the ACTUAL REALITY.

This property is, among other things, the superiority of the oral tradition as opposed to the written down tradition: you can't manipulate it by twisting words around, which by the way the Jews are true masters of.

this
10-22-2005, 08:26 PM
It's hard to debate someone who has nothing to say.

55132
10-22-2005, 08:52 PM
nomad wrote:

55132 wrote:

nomad wrote:

55132 wrote:
I would like to add to your excellent post that the legacy of Christian thought has been key in europa. one would not be without the other. Had europa been muslim we would still be living like in the 6 century ac. had it been jewish we would have been slaves to the sanhedrin.

How many great jewish painters,musicians,scientist... do we know before the 20th century? very few if any.

thought today is temperd by the jewish media, made posible by purchases made in the 19th century with interest free rothchild money


Jews were respecting the commandment of not

worshipping any graven images hence careers in the

arts were not seen in a positive light at the

time.



nomad

oK but what about science, literature, architecture,music,.......





Remember, the Christian world kept the

Jews locked up in ghettos in order to

control them and barred them from anything

that would give them power and yet despite

all this they found a way out.


Jews living in gettos? that shows you how inteligent they where. If it had not been for the rothchild's money they would still be there.

But as unfortunate as it was this is what saved Europa once they started leaving the gettos europa and all the western started to to slide down hill.

Besides most of the getto dwellers where kazars

10-22-2005, 09:25 PM
Nomad, 2+2=4, no doubt, but what if your whole life you believed 2 to be 2, but found out that what you thought was 2 actually is 3?

Beyond the confines of a humans restrictive brain case, this is. Everything that you can and may perceive is solely within that calcium box.

madkhao
10-25-2005, 06:10 PM
IQ test, just for fun.

http://www.highiqsociety.org/flash/nonmembers/iqtests.htm

nomad
10-25-2005, 07:37 PM
IQ means nothing ... if it did, God would

never have given mankind his words ...

knowledge is everything. See how dumb

the goyim are to believe in such things

as IQ.

truebeliever
10-25-2005, 09:15 PM
Beyond the confines of a humans restrictive brain case, this is. Everything that you can and may perceive is solely within that calcium box.

Actually, there is "direct knowing" that comes from the ability to tap into the entire past, present and future contained within the human dna.

The "mystics" had this. The "geniuses" had this...where they could perceive and hold an idea in visual form in their brain in it's entirity...direct "knowing" can be various forms of intensity.

Tesla had this and so did Michaelangelo etc...

When you see stories with the Dragon holding the treasure in the cave etc...or the damsel...the Kingdom Of God Is Within You.

nomad
10-26-2005, 05:07 AM
You're right TB ... my point is that the computer

with the greatest processor (IQ) is worthless

without the best operating system (belief system,

knowledge).

Bouncer
10-26-2005, 01:28 PM
And even knowledge is relatively useless unless you apply it properly: this is called wisdom.

The Isrealis don't like the US very much, either, but at least they're smart enough to keep quiet about it instead of running around screaming, "Marg bar Amrika!!!!"