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Thumper
10-24-2005, 02:53 AM
...and comparing his statist world view, versus my individualistic one, I've come to ask myself, what did God intend for most when he created us humans?

your thoughts, please :-)

truebeliever
10-24-2005, 04:38 AM
Sheer unadulterated joy at the miracle of physical existence.

Shannow
10-24-2005, 04:41 AM
truebeliever wrote:
Sheer unadulterated joy at the miracle of physical existence.

bastard, I'll swap you jobs for a few weeks.

Draken
10-24-2005, 05:37 AM
We are spiritual beings having a physical experience on Earth. Our purpose is to learn, awaken, reach insights and purify our spirit so that we can return to our origins.

Insider
10-24-2005, 08:13 AM
Draken wrote:
We are spiritual beings having a physical experience on Earth. Our purpose is to learn, awaken, reach insights and purify our spirit so that we can return to our origins.

This is so true, so why can't people see this NOW.

LaDominio
10-24-2005, 08:37 AM
Thumper wrote:
...and comparing his statist world view, versus my individualistic one, I've come to ask myself, what did God intend for most when he created us humans?

your thoughts, please :-)

Here is the ‘answer’ to your question:

(Keep an open mind)

Do you really think that a human mind could even begin to grasp the answer to this question? A human mind (believe it or not) has a very limited imagination. If you ask the most skilful artist on the earth to draw a picture of another being of another realm, he will draw something that is either remotely human, or something that has NO meaning, because he does not understand, just as he does not understand our origin. God did not create this world or us for reasons that a Human would.

When we die, we must be READY for the next realm (Heaven), or else we are sent back here (reincarnation). Most people have cycled through this many times because he/she does not know HOW to get into the other realm. If you abuse your chance here on earth, you will not get another one. You will go to Hell. If you do finally prepare yourself PROPERLY and you do finally transcend into Heaven, THEN can you ask that question. For a question like that is not of this world and cannot be answered here.

truebeliever
10-24-2005, 08:42 AM
I might add love of the material world is great. It's the one sided notion of our existence that is dangerous. That there is ONLY the physical.

I sometimes think the meaning of life is simply to be happy.

Does an infant ponder the "meaning of life" as it giggles and plays...watches it's little hand open and close and gaze in wonder about itself and it's surroundings? Does it need "deep contemplation" to find the joy in life?

I thank God every day that i'm alive and live in literally one of the best places on Earth to grow up. Where an unemployed man on the margins can still aford to wander along the beach and buy a feed, watch the sun set.

Just dont go in the water... 8-)

truebeliever
10-24-2005, 08:46 AM
Fuck heaven.

I'm here right now and denial of this world is a slap in the face to God.

Again...the Kingdom of God is within you. The East worked it out along time ago.

We can never go back to the Garden Of Eden. An angel with a fiery sword prevents this and the only way forward is to the heavenly Jerusalem. A powerful and bonding sense of community and belonging. In this world.

Insider
10-24-2005, 08:49 AM
I can't say that about Heaven, but the rest is very true. In other words, you are correct.

truebeliever
10-24-2005, 08:56 AM
Fuck heaven.

I take that back...it's just that to look forward to heaven means you are missing the boat right now. You are born in a particular time in a particular historical setting and YOU will never walk the Earth again...so make the most of it...and REJOICE! Even in tears.

LaDominio
10-24-2005, 09:06 AM
truebeliever wrote:
Fuck heaven.

I'm here right now and denial of this world is a slap in the face to God.

Again...the Kingdom of God is within you. The East worked it out along time ago.

We can never go back to the Garden Of Eden. An angel with a fiery sword prevents this and the only way forward is to the heavenly Jerusalem. A powerful and bonding sense of community and belonging. In this world.

No offence or disrespect TB, but you are under the misconception that the 'material' world is the only world of importance. THIS world is a sieve... a tester... a temporary place. If you chose to stay here, you will. But when you die, you will see the next realm and you will desire to be a part of it more that anything you have or could ever desire on this earth. But when you try and grasp it, you will begin to drift away from it and eventually get sucked back down to earth, where your soul will grieve for months, within a new body. Then you will forget and become a new person. But your soul will always scream out for freedom. I see it in everyone.

I’m just telling you that there is more than only this world and that you should consider it to be more real than the 'material' one. But the choice is entirely yours and it is also your choice to believe what I say.

LaDominio
10-24-2005, 09:07 AM
Oh, my mistake... I see that you withdrew your comment about 'Heaven'... but still, there are others who need awakening.

madkhao
10-24-2005, 11:11 AM
LaDominio, do you think our soul and bodies are two separate things and why?

LaDominio
10-24-2005, 11:20 AM
The body is a 'vessel' for the soul. It is the medium with which we interact with the physical world. Our mind controls our body, but parts of the mind can communicate with the soul, though it takes practise. The purpose of the soul is unknown to humans, despite their explanations.

madkhao
10-24-2005, 02:16 PM
Sorry, I see how I should have phrased my question. Do you think our living soul and our living bodies are two different things. But you don't need to reanswer I understand your viewpoint, thanks.

oneview
03-13-2010, 07:41 PM
...and comparing his statist world view, versus my individualistic one, I've come to ask myself, what did God intend for most when he created us humans?

your thoughts, please :-)

Sorry, I see how I should have phrased my question. Do you think our living soul and our living bodies are two different things. But you don't need to reanswer I understand your viewpoint, thanks.

Have no idea what God intended.

Wouldn't think our soul and body - to be - 2 different things.

Lots of people seem to think their souls and themselves,
are 2 different things.

I would think one and the same, lack co-operation on this, though.
Think I know enough about being seperated too.

My reality of life - appears to be different - compared to others around me.
I'm not - one of the many.

jane doe
03-13-2010, 08:03 PM
The human heart has brain cells. I believe we effect energy fields thru the brain cells of the heart. When we speak/focus toward the soul, we send energy to another area outside our body. Theoretically, many people can send energy to one source and one source can send energy to many people.

The visual definitions of a human, cloak the spirtual energy intent.

God did not have an intent for humans when we became created, other than existing. Compassion to take care of the earth and each other was develped as the brain cells migrated to the heart, in evolution. When tribes are isolated they accept "God" and balance. Man is slowly going back to the garden, after tearing the fence down, exporting it's resources until depletion and denying the omnipotence of God creating even the "sin".