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Jimbo
10-24-2005, 10:32 PM
Natural Disasters & The Militarization Of America - :-o :-o :-o

Natural Disasters & The Militarization Of America – Global Research
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=CHO20051023&articleId=1134

Global Research
http://www.globalresearch.ca/

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Congressman Ron Paul (http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/october2005/121005paul.jpg)


Republican Congressman Slams Bush On Militarized Police State Preparation
"Congressman Ron Paul has accused the Bush administration of attempting to set in motion a militarized police state in America by enacting gun confiscation martial law provisions in the event of an avian flu pandemic."
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/october2005/121005slamsbush.htm
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truebeliever
10-24-2005, 11:14 PM
Ron Paul looks sick. I hope he has'nt contracted one of those rare cancers.

I cant help but think this avian bird flu is a distraction. From what i've been reading their is no way they will get away with it. The "science" behind things is SO BAD that it is bound to break through the media walls soon that this is a beat up of monumental proportions.

I would'nt rule out problems in Asia due to their health care and general social condition. But as for the rest of us? A non event. Perhaps it's irrelevant and the media coverage is doing it's job.

They're even going hell for leather with talk of militarization here in Oz.

truebeliever
10-25-2005, 01:31 AM
I'm awaiting the new avian flu to be delivered via asteroid collision.

truebeliever
10-25-2005, 01:53 AM
Taking a new approach

By Professor Allyson MacVean, director of the John Grieve Centre for Policing and Community Safety

Tony Blair referred to a world fast forwarding into the future with momentous change and at unprecedented speed in his keynote speech to the Labour Party conference last month. This change, he argued, can either overwhelm us or make our lives better and our country stronger.

The need for change is not disputed: police forces themselves are the first to acknowledge the need to tackle crime more effectively and to better manage the risks that have recently been posed by complex and unpredictable threats to communities, such as terrorism.

Our understanding of what knowledge we have, or do not have, about criminality and its impact upon communities can only be tested by progressive initiatives, some which may be successful and some unsuccessful. These initiatives may include police methods that may be unconventional, built upon existing procedures or be transferred from practice elsewhere in the criminal justice system industry. Why, for example, should it not be possible to apply anti-social behaviour orders to criminals engaged in serious organised crime? If young people who engage in anti-social behaviour can be banned from geographical locations and disruptive families relegated to 'sin bins' with 24 hour security and CCTV, why can the same conditions not be imposed to those who harm society by more serious criminal activity?

http://www.janes.com/security/law_enforcement/news/pr/pr051020_1_n.shtml



Ah, here it comes. The throwing in of ALL criminal activity with "terrorism"...and then they take ya house, ya car, and maybe ya life.

Truly, the middle class saps are gunna lap this up! They create the shit social conditions and high unemployment and then offer the soloution...

Saturnino
10-25-2005, 06:34 AM
It seems now they are coming with a new scare every 15 days...hurricanes, bird flu, bombings...what's next ?
It is obvious that the pace of the birth pangs is accelerating.

Jimbo
10-25-2005, 09:36 AM
The Posse Comitatus & Insurrection Acts - :-o :-o :-o

The Posse Comitatus Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act

The Insurrection Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurrection_Act
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Jimbo
10-25-2005, 09:37 PM
Are You Ready For A Militarized Police Force? - :-o :-o :-o

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Police State (http://imagelib.getlocalnews.com/images/newswriter/G18558.jpg)


Posse Comitatus Remembering Why
"The Posse Comitatus Act was enacted in 1878. It reads as follows (as revised in 1956):

"Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or Air Force as a Posse Comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than two years, or both.""
http://www.antiwar.com/bock/?articleid=7468

Bush Considers Changes To Posse Comitatus Act
"The Civil War-era law bars federal troops from carrying out law enforcement duties inside the United States during peacetime, short of suppressing an insurrection. Congress enacted the prohibition to curtail alleged excesses by Union occupation forces in former Confederate states after the Civil War."
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/politics/3377358

Posse Comitatus Breakdown - Armed Forces Assuming New Domestic Surveillance
"The U.S. military operates under the 1878 Posse Comitatus Act, which prohibits the direct use of federal troops "to execute the laws" of the United States. The courts have interpreted this to mean that the military is prohibited from any active role in direct civilian law enforcement, such as search, seizure or arrest of civilians."
http://www.infowars.com/print/ps/creep.htm

The Bush Administration Is Calling For The Repeal Of ‘The Posse Comitatus Act Of 1878’
"The Bush administration is calling for the repeal of the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878, a law passed after the Civil War to prohibit the deployment of federal military forces onto American streets to control civil action - otherwise known as martial law."
http://www.vallejonews.com/articles/index.cfm?artOID=92964&webpage=79&cp=60

Posse Comitatus Act Of 1878
"SEC. 15. From and after the passage of this act it shall not be lawful to employ any part of the Army of the United States, as a Posse Comitatus, or otherwise, for the purpose of executing the laws, except in such cases and under such circumstances as such employment of said force may be expressly authorized by the Constitution or by act of Congress; and no money appropriated by this act shall be used to pay any of the expenses incurred in the employment of any troops in violation of this section And any person willfully violating the provisions of this section shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor and on conviction thereof shall be punished by fine not exceeding ten thousand dollars or imprisonment not exceeding two years or by both such fine and imprisonment."
http://www.populistamerica.com/posse_comitatus_act_of_1878
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Jimbo
11-08-2005, 08:38 PM
The Military In New Orleans During Katrina ??? – :-o :-o :-o

PEOPLE OF THE DOME, REVISITED: Hurricane Katrina's Human Face
http://www.libertythink.com/2005/11/people-of-dome-revisited-hurricane.html

by Mitchel Cohen
Brooklyn Greens / Green Party of NY State
November 8, 2005

"I'm sick to death of hearing things from uptight narrow-minded pig-headed politicians. All I want is the truth. Just give me some truth."
- John Lennon

AS HURRICANE KATRINA RAVAGED THE GULF STATES, many organizations kicked into high gear to send relief to local groups in Mississippi and Louisiana, with no help from the government or formal relief agencies. Among them was the Malcolm X Grassroots movement, with whom the Brooklyn Greens shares an office on Atlantic Avenue. Tons of donated supplies poured into the office and were trucked to Jackson Mississippi, where they were distributed through community-based efforts.

I spoke daily with Les Evenchick, a Green who lives in the French Quarter of New Orleans. I was also in touch with New Orleans residents Malik Rahim and Mike Howell; the areas in which they live were dry and they were holding out as long as they could. The story they tell is shocking: U.S. and local government officials refused to allow water or food relief into New Orleans. They also turned off the drinking water. Hundreds of people died unnecessarily as a result.

And yet, there was no shortage of water or food being sent -- it was just not allowed into the City! When Green Party activists tried to donate water for the people in the Superdome a few days after the levees broke, armed soldiers pointed rifles at them and prevented them from delivering supplies. Even three Wal-Mart trucks loaded with drinking water were denied entry and turned away. No water was allowed into New Orleans. Evenchick says that "this was a brazen attempt to starve people out."

Attempts to starve civilians into leaving an area is a war crime under the Geneva Conventions. Who gave the order to block water and food from entering New Orleans? Who ordered the drinking water inside the city to be turned off? No one has yet answered those questions.

On Thursday of that first week, volunteers whose makeshift boats had rescued over 1,000 people were ordered to stop, under the pretext that it was too dangerous. The volunteers wanted to continue rescue operations. They said there was little risk, that desperate people had been welcoming them with open arms. The military "convinced" the volunteer rescuers at gunpoint to "cease and desist." They did the same to a state senator who had led a flotilla of hundreds of boats and rafts all the way from Mississippi to rescue people.

Who gave the order to block the volunteer rescue teams in New Orleans? No one has yet answered that question.

Officials claimed that people were trying to shoot down the rescue helicopters. In actuality, a couple of people shot into the air to signal helicopters to pick them up. Yet officials repeated this lie over and over, as justification for shutting down voluntary rescue operations and sending in thousands of fully armed military troops, along with private Blackwater mercenaries fresh from Iraq under orders to "shoot to kill."

Two U.S. military helicopter pilots plucked 110 people from the roofs of their flooded houses. We saw them on T.V. and cheered. When they returned to base they were called into the commander's office. They thought they were going to be given medals. Instead, as reported in the NY Times, their commanding officers reprimanded them and removed them from helicopter duty for "violating orders." Who gave the order not to rescue people?

For more than two weeks, hundreds of volunteer doctors and fire personnel -- including a squad from New York City -- were denied entry to New Orleans. They were dispatched, instead, to provide backdrop for Bush's photo-ops in other areas. The medical personnel were kept twiddling their thumbs, as people were dying.

A commanding officer of a police squad complained that his 120 cops were provided with only 70 small bottles of water. Hospitals were supplied with nothing. Could FEMA and local officials have forgotten to store bottles of drinking water in the Superdome, Convention Center and hospitals?

The only FEMA official on the scene in the early stages, Marty Bahamonde, has testified to Congress that he begged FEMA director Michael Brown for water, food, toilet paper and oxygen, saying that "many will die within hours." Brown's press secretary, Sharon Worthy, responded that the FEMA director needed more time to eat dinner at a Baton Rouge restaurant that evening. "He needs much more that [sic] 20 or 30 minutes," Worthy wrote. "Restaurants are getting busy," she said. "We now have traffic to encounter to go to and from a location of his choise [sic], followed by wait service from the restaurant staff, eating, etc." Let them eat gumbo.

In an interview by WWL-TV, Mayor Ray Nagin complained vociferously that Louisiana National Guard Blackhawk helicopters were being stopped from dropping sandbags to plug the levees soon after the breech. No repairs were allowed until long after the poor areas of New Orleans were totally flooded.

Venezuela's president Hugo Chavez and Cuba's President Fidel Castro offered millions of dollars and hundreds of doctors to help save lives in New Orleans. They were turned down. Millions of concerned citizens wanted to send assistance as well. FEMA recommended that they send contributions to "Operation Blessing," a front group for rightwing evangelist Pat Robertson. Robertson had recently televised a speech calling for the assassination of Venezuela's president Hugo Chavez.

Can all of these be explained by simple incompetence and negligence, or is there something more sinister going down?

The Saudization of New Orleans

Les Evenchick is an independent Green activist who lives in the French Quarter of New Orleans in a 3-story walkup. He points out that people were told to go to the bus depot to evacuate, but the bus station had closed down the night before. Unless you owned a car, Les continued, FEMA and state police would not let you leave.

Hundreds attempted to walk out of New Orleans; they were forced off the road and ordered back to the Coliseum or Superdome, where no water or food was available. As a consequence the vast majority of the so-called looters were simply grabbing water, food, diapers and medicine. "It's only because of them that old people, sick people, small children were able to survive," Les says. "But the 'anti-looting' hype was used to militarize the area, place it under martial law and disperse the population, mostly Black people, mostly the poor."

These were the people who had twice voted in huge numbers against the candidacy of George Bush, the only area in the state to have done so. The previous year, they also fought off attempts to privatize the drinking water supply, battled Shell Oil's attempt to build a Liquified Natural Gas facility, and tried to prevent the teardown of public housing -- battles in which Mayor Ray Nagin, who had contributed funds to George W. Bush's presidential campaign in 2000 and who was a registered Republican until a few months prior to the 2002 Mayoral election, sided with the oil companies and wealthy developers.

Some tourists in the Monteleone Hotel pooled their funds and paid $25,000 for 10 buses to get them out. The buses were sent (there was no short-age of available buses -- why didn't the government use this bus company?) but the military confiscated them for its own use. The tourists were not allowed to leave and were ordered to the Convention Center.

How simple it would have been for the government to have provided buses before the hurricane and throughout the week. AMTRAK says it offered free rides out of town but that City officials never got back to them to finalize arrangements. Evacuating 100,000 people trapped in the city should not that be that difficult, it's only 3,000 buses, fewer than come into Washington D.C. for some of the giant antiwar demonstrations. Even at $2,500 a pop -- highway robbery -- that would only come to a total of $7.5 million for transporting out of harm's way all of those who did not have the means to leave.

Thousands of New Orleans residents refused to evacuate. Some didn't want to leave their pets or their homes. Most have no money nor place to go. Green activist and former Black Panther Malik Rahim, who lives in the Algiers section -- which, like the French Quarter and several other areas above sea-level, remained fairly dry -- points out that the government could have and should have provided water and food to residents of New Orleans but did not do so intentionally to force people to evacuate by starving them out. This is a crime of the gravest sort.

French Quarter resident Mike Howell adds that the capability had been there to drive water and food right up to the convention center, as those roads were clear. "It's the same road the National Guard used to drive into the city," he said.

The evidence is overwhelming that the government intentionally did not allow food or water into New Orleans.

I recently emailed Governor Kathleen Blanco (a Democrat) asking, Who ordered the turn-off of the drinking water? There was no health reason to turn it off at the time, as the water is drawn into a separate system from the Mississippi River, not the polluted lake, and filtered through self-powered purifica-tion plants separate from the main electric grid. If necessary, people could have boiled their water -- strangely, the municipal natural gas used in stoves was still functioning properly as of Thursday night of that first week! I have not received a response from Gov. Blanco.

MSNBC interviewed dozens of people who had managed to get out during the first few days. Every single one interviewed was white.

On August 30, Yahoo front page news showed two pictures of people wading through water carrying supplies. The caption under the picture of a Black person read: "A young man walks through chest deep flood water after looting a grocery store in New Orleans." The caption under the picture of a White couple wading through the water pulling supplies reads: "Two residents wade through chest-deep water after finding bread and soda from a local grocery store." Got that? Whites "find"; Blacks "loot".

The people who are poor (primarily Blacks but many poor Whites as well) were locked in the Superdome and not allowed to leave -- five days of hell. Those who survived the first dome were then bussed out of the area to another stadium, the AstroDome in Houston.

Call them "People of the Dome."


The Grassroots Organizes Itself

Gulf Coast resident Latosha Brown reports that the first group to send emergency supplies was TOPS, The Ordinary Peoples Society, a prison ministry in Dothan Alabama founded and staffed by ex-offenders. They organized food, pooled their money for additional goods and brought the supplies to a second organization of former prisoners in Mobile who distributed them, while they went back to Dothan for more. "That's why we tell everybody now that it was felons who were the first to feed, the first to respond to need, the first to get up and do something. They didn't wait for permission or for a contract. That's real leadership." ("Rescue Came from the Grassroots: The People, Not FEMA, Saved Themselves," by Bruce Dixon, in The Black Commentator.)

Volunteer medics have now established free clinics with the Common Ground Collective: www.commongroundrelief.org in defiance of government edicts and machine guns. Others, working in solidarity with tribal leaders, have created a dedicated relief effort for Native American communities: www.intuitivepath.org/relief.html. Food Not Bombs volunteers have been feeding people all over the region, with no help from the government or Red Cross: www.foodnotbombs.net/dollar_for_peace.html.

From Day One, huge war profiteering corporations such as Halliburton, Bechtel and other private contractors began descending on the region, their pockets stuffed with billions of dollars in government handouts. Currently, thousands of poor homeowners and rental tenants -- including those unable to return to New Orleans just yet, having been evacuated to the far away domes -- are being evicted, says Mike Howell, who is organizing tenants to resist eviction. The phony "reconstruction" of New Orleans begins with the landgrab and with Mayor Nagin proposing gambling casinos, which he says would "rescue" the city (while destroying the remaining wetlands).

Many people are resisting this blatant confiscation of their lands and homes. If the resistance grows, New Orleans may soon become known as the first battle of the new American revolution.

[LibertyThink Note: This site and its owner look to the likes of Congressman Ron Paul (and Thomas Jefferson before him) for wisdom. There is much about the Green Party that we could not support. ...That said, this piece came into our box as an original submission, and it's a well-written and thoughtful piece.]
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Jimbo
11-08-2005, 09:55 PM
The Military In New Orleans During Katrina ??? :-o :-o :-o

Hurricane Katrina - Who Benefits
http://www.rense.com/general67/over80.htm

Brave New World Of Tesla Technology & Weather Control
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/articles/article.html?id=9470

Weather As A Force Multiplier
http://www.uhuh.com/sky/forcex.htm
http://www.airapparent.ca/library/abstract/weatherasforce_owning2025.htm
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/af2025.html
http://www.freepressinternational.com/owning_weather_2025_8726344492827.html
http://www.fas.org/spp/military/docops/usaf/2025/v3c15/v3c15-1.htm

AirForce 2025
http://www.fas.org/spp/military/docops/usaf/2025/index.html
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Jimbo
11-09-2005, 09:08 AM
Where Does "The Posse Comitatus Act" & "Torture" Meet ??? – :-o :-o :-o

Negroponte Won't Back Cheney On Torture
“"It's above my pay grade," he told a secret briefing for Senators last month”
http://www.upi.com/SecurityTerrorism/view.php?StoryID=20051107-015539-8991r

Allowing Torture & Ignoring Geneva’s Human Rights On Terrorists vs POWs
“"Gonzales has consistently pushed the limits of executive privilege in order to shield the Bush administration from oversight by Congress or scrutiny by the American people," added Aron.”
http://www.libertythink.com/2004/11/bush-picks-gonzales-to-succeed.html
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Jimbo
11-14-2005, 10:37 AM
US Militarism - The "Arm Of Corporatism & Capitalism – :-o :-o :-o

Captains Of Commerce - Consuming The Planet

"US Militarism is the "Arm Of Corporatism. The "Iron Fist Of Capitalism" to smash the face of people’s movements for social justice & autonomy."

America A Corporate Oligarchy Where The Rich Prey Upon The Poor
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article10983.htm
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truebeliever
11-20-2005, 08:57 AM
JIMBO: Just think about the 2100 Marines who have copped the shit in Fallugah. They will come back as highly paid mercs for the Globalists in downtown USA.

I sometimes think Iraq is simply a training ground for U.S Forces to practice urban pacification.

Jimbo
11-20-2005, 10:28 AM
Iraq, Training Ground For "Urban Combat" ??? - :-o :-o :-o

Agreed, in that their “accomplishments,” (even if obviously not ours) are chosen is such a manner as to produce multiple purposes. The Iraqi war is an example of such a “multi-orgasmic” session. The fact that Iraq is a training ground for what is now labeled “Urban Combat” is obvious. The fact that they celebrated their “Mission Accomplished,” w/ a very expensive boat party, shows that their primary objective, that of “outing Saddam Hussein” was indeed accomplished, regardless of all the other unplanned failures. They have not been able to completely subjugate their “people or their core culture,” but they were also somewhat successful in destroying a great part of their cultural symbols, artifacts, economy, & life sustaining infrastructure. That country has been “raped” & “destroyed” beyond any immediate repair. The fact that they wanted to free their people is not so obvious, as to the fact that they are trying very strongly to force them to convert politically to a “neo-democracy”. Obviously a “true democracy,” as experienced first hand here in America, is a thing of the past, at least for the near future. All the words used today & flashed on the TV screens are a complete opposite to what they “truly stand for,” in both the meanings of the words themselves & their actions. The “lie” is bigger than “true reality” & the “illusion” is overwhelming, specially for anyone in possession of a normal psyche.

Another interesting fact is that right after 911, England engraved a bell commemorating the event, as a seal linking both nations. I have a picture I downloaded from the Internet & from what can be seen it reads,

"THE GREATER GLORY OF"
"AND IN RECOGNITION OF"
"THE ENDURING LINKS BETWEEN"
"THE CITY OF LONDON"
"AND"
"THE CITY OF NEW YORK"
" "
"FIXED IN ADVERSITY - 11 SEPTEMBER" followed by what looks like “2001”

At times I have tried looking for articles written on the subject but I’ve not been successful. Do you have any information about this “symbol,” it’s purpose & what it represents?

I think that every time a catastrophic event takes place in our societies that advances the agenda of the NWO, they leave behind symbols by which they can remember, & thus “secretly” commemorate the event & the advancement towards their “greater goal” – that of “World Dominion.”

I find the following link informative, concise, & it definitely shows the reader how there has been a “timeline,” expanding over a few hundred years, to the events connecting the “controllers of the world” to the NWO agenda.

Beating The New World Order
http://www.angelfire.com/darkside/stopterrorists/johngalt

Peace.
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Jimbo
11-23-2005, 09:31 PM
Both Left & Right Are Directed By A Higher Evilarchy - :-o :-o :-o

Monopoly Of Power…

<img src=http://www.infowars.com/images2/us/221105hw.jpg width=400 height=310>
Clinton - Bush (http://www.infowars.com/images2/us/221105hw.jpg)

The 2 Party Monopoly Of Power
"Clintons and the Bushes are openly in bed with one another."

"Bush's efforts to federalize relief efforts, eliminate Habeas Corpus and Posse Comitatus, along with endless other violations of the US constitution, make him and his administration the biggest threat to American liberty since King George."


"Bush has not only failed to enforce immigration laws, he has presided over a deliberate and unceasing attempt to open the floodgates to illegal immigration with his guest worker program. This even taken independently is an impeachable offense."

"Bush led America into a war on the orders of neo-Trotskyites based on fraudulent intelligence and outright lies. The foreign policy of the Neo-Con usurpers is an unprecedented 180 degrees from the Jeffersonian principle of avoiding foreign adventures and entangling alliances. The founding fathers advocated splendid isolation and a strong rearguard at home. Bush has split America wide open to untold illegal immigration while sending US troops to die on foreign soil for wars that have wreaked endless economic and moral turmoil on average Americans."
http://www.infowars.com/articles/us/hillary_clinton_good_for_america.htm
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Jimbo
11-24-2005, 11:32 PM
Advocating Democracy As A Pretext For Invading Other Countries – :-o :-o :-o

Advocating State-Sponsored Terrorism & Torture

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Hitler (http://www.hermes-press.com/hitler1.gif)

North Korea Compares George W. Bush To Hitler
"History proves that the ringleaders of fascism that stood stern trials for their crimes against humanity advocated `freedom' and `democracy' more noisily than any others."

"This will only more glaringly reveal his true colors as a wicked man whom the world compares to fascist fanatic Hitler," it said."
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/archives/2005/11/23/2003281370

Thank God for "Freedom of Speech"...
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Jimbo
11-25-2005, 12:18 PM
Martial Law In U.S. Enforced By Foreign Troops ??? - :-o :-o :-o

Was Giving Away Our Sovereignty Constitutional ???

<img src=http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/november2005/241105troops.jpg>
Foreign Troops (http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/november2005/241105troops.jpg)

Congressman "Ron Paul" Reiterates Danger Of Foreign Troops Being Used For Martial Law (Right Here In The U.S.A)
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2005/241105martiallaw.htm

Speaks out on phony UN-US dog and pony show, EPA testing pesticides on children.

Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones | November 24 2005

Republican Congressman Ron Paul recently appeared on nationally syndicated radio and again reiterated his deep concern that foreign troops are mobilizing outside and inside America to be used as assets in a martial law takeover by the Bush administration.

"It's a horrible precedent and it's all part of the NAFTA scheme and globalization and world government," Paul told the Alex Jones Show.

"Obviously they shouldn't be permitted. What I'd like to see is that we don't have our troops in foreign countries and if we needed a national guard that they were back here at home, that's the bigger problem. Then if there were foreign troops on our soil maybe our state officials could deal with that with their own national guard."

Paul elaborated on his fear that after the next crisis the government, in line with their own public statements, will use military assets to police Americans on a regular basis.

"They're putting their back up against the wall and saying, if need be we're going to have martial law."

"We've heard all these statements by the President, by the administration, why they need more militarism at the federal government to keep people in check so nobody knows how this will turn out but I do know that the only thing we can do about it is try to alert the American people to what's going on so they can be prepared."

<img src=http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/november2005/241105paul.jpg>
U.S. Congressman Ron Paul (http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/november2005/241105paul.jpg)

Paul offered his take on why the government seemed to be acting in a deranged and reckless manner on every issue.

"It's almost like they're going overboard that they lose their rationality and that's part of the reason why they usually fail too is they get overly bold and I think our government is overly bold thinking they are invincible and they feel invincible with their finances. Our government controls the reserve currency of the world, they literally have the ability to print gold."

In light of recent shocking rulings that authorize the EPA to conduct tests on orphan and mentally disabled children using pesticides, Paul made comparisons with a proposed universal mental screening program that he previously had helped defeat.

"I really thought that mental health testing and drugging was so evil and horrible, but this I think could even be a little bit worse when they talk about testing these kind of chemicals. But that's just confirmation once again that we as a country have been careless and we've allowed our government to act as parents for the children and, in spite of the shortcomings of some parents, parents do a much much better job."

Talking about children being in government care being five times more likely to be abused and Congressmen voting for those kind of measures, Paul stated,

"The results are so horrible you'd think maybe a little bit of logic would cause them to rethink their position but it doesn't seem to happen."

On the subject of his drive to get the US out of the UN, Paul pointed out the staged good cop, bad cop nature of the US-UN relationship.

"The Bush administration started bashing the UN and threatening the UN with cutting some of the funding but it was all a game they were playing because they literally gave the UN more power in the name of a reform."

"Who do we have at the UN, Bolton, the arch Neo-Con warmonger and actually what they've done is taken the Neo-Con position on intervening on the internal affairs of other nations and regime change and they've institutionalized that in the United Nations, now the UN is in the business of regime change."

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Thank God for "Freedom Of Speech"...
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Jimbo
12-04-2005, 11:12 AM
Monopoly Of Power - :-o :-o :-o

Monopoly Of Power

Conservatives Might Finally Wake Up To The Reality Of The Two Party Monopoly Of Power
"Bush has not only failed to enforce immigration laws, he has presided over a deliberate and unceasing attempt to open the floodgates to illegal immigration with his Guest Worker Program. This even taken independently is an impeachable offense."
http://www.infowars.com/articles/us/hillary_clinton_good_for_america.htm

The Free Trade Agreement
“Is responsible for the resent wave of illegal immigrants into the US. That’s what they are failing to address, since many don’t realize that most of the “Free Trade Agreement” accords are sealed in secrecy amongst the consenting countries. In this case, the “agreements” made w/ Mexico & Canada are responsible. Once that “cat” gets out of it’s “bag”, people here in the US will realize that we are dealing w/ another “double standard” policy we were all mislead about since its inception.”
http://news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138469&tid=nmbushborderdc&sid=37138469&mid=706

Related Story:

Bush Pushes Plan To Toughen Border Policy
"President George W. Bush said on Saturday illegal border crossings were adding to crime and placing burdens on border communities, pushing his plan to overhaul immigration policy as a poll suggested Americans are skeptical of his handling of the issue."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051203/ts_nm/bush_border_dc_3

Thank God for "Freedom Of Speech"...
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Jimbo
12-05-2005, 11:21 PM
Congressman Ron Paul - :-o :-o :-o

Congress Erodes Privacy

The "Echelon" Worldwide Surveillance System , Invasion Of Privacy, Loss Of Habeas Corpus, Torture, Loss Of Freedom, & Thus, Loss Of Liberty

HON. RON PAUL OF TEXAS
BEFORE THE US HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
November 16, 2005

Congress Erodes Privacy
http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2005/cr111605.htm

The privacy issue has been around for a long time. The brutal abuse of privacy and property of early Americans played a big role in our revolt against the King. The 1st, 4th, and 5th amendments represented attempts to protect private property and privacy from an overzealous federal government. Today those attempts appear to have failed.

There have been serious legal debates in recent decades about whether “privacy” is protected by the Constitution. Some argue that since the word does not appear in the text of that document, it is not protected. Others argue that privacy protection grants the federal government power to dictate to all states limits or leniency in enforcing certain laws. But the essence of liberty is privacy.

In recent years—especially since 9-11—Congress has been totally negligent in its duty to protect U.S. citizens from federal government encroachment on the rights of privacy. Even prior to 9-11, the Echelon worldwide surveillance system was well entrenched, monitoring telephones, faxes, and emails.

From the 1970s forward, national security letters were used sparingly in circumventing the legal process and search warrant requirements. Since 9-11 and the subsequent passage of the Patriot Act, however, use of these instruments has skyrocketed, from 300 annually to over 30,000. There is essentially no oversight nor understanding by the U.S. Congress of the significance of this pervasive government surveillance. It’s all shrugged off as necessary to make us safe from terrorism. Sacrificing personal liberty and privacy, the majority feels, is not a big deal.

We soon will vote on the conference report reauthorizing the Patriot Act. Though one could argue there’s been a large grass-roots effort to discredit the Patriot Act, Congress has ignored the message. Amazingly, over 391 communities and 7 states have passed resolutions highly critical of the Patriot Act.

The debate in Congress—if that’s what one wants to call it—boils down to whether the most egregious parts of the Act will be sunsetted after 4 years or 7. The conference report will adjust the numbers, and members will vote willingly for the “compromise” and feel good about their effort to protect individual privacy.

But if we’re honest with ourselves we would admit that the 4th amendment is essentially a dead letter. There has been no effort to curb the abuse of national security letters nor to comprehend the significance of Echelon. Hard-fought liberties are rapidly slipping away from us.

Congress is not much better when it comes to protecting against the erosion of the centuries-old habeas corpus doctrine. By declaring anyone an “enemy combatant”—a totally arbitrary designation by the President— the government can deny an individual his right to petition a judge or even speak with an attorney. Though there has been a good debate on the insanity of our policy of torturing prisoners, holding foreigners and Americans without charges seems acceptable to many. Did it never occur to those who condemn torture that unlimited detention of individuals without a writ of habeas corpus is itself torture—especially for those who are totally innocent? Add this to the controversial worldwide network of secret CIA prisons now known of for 2 years, and we should be asking ourselves what we have become as a people. Recent evidence that we’re using white phosphorus chemical weapons in Iraq does nothing to improve our image.

Our prestige in the world is slipping. The war is going badly. Our financial system is grossly overburdened. And we spend hundreds of hours behind the scenes crafting a mere $5 billion spending cut while pretending no one knows we can spend tens of billions in off-budget supplemental bills- sometimes under unanimous consent!

It’s time we reconsider the real purpose of government in a society that professes to be free—protection of liberty, peaceful commerce, and keeping itself out of our lives, our economy, our pocketbooks, and certainly out of the affairs of foreign nations.
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Jimbo
12-09-2005, 06:42 PM
Torture, Lies, & Video Tapes - :-o :-o :-o

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Torture, Lies, & Video Tapes

Al Qaeda - Iraq Intel Link US Obtained Through Torture
"The Bush administration based a crucial prewar assertion about ties between Iraq and Al Qaeda on detailed statements made by a prisoner while in Egyptian custody who later said he had fabricated them to escape harsh treatment, according to current and former government officials.

The officials said the captive, Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi, provided his most specific and elaborate accounts about ties between Iraq and Al Qaeda only after he was secretly handed over to Egypt by the United States in January 2002, in a process known as rendition.

The new disclosure provides the first public evidence that bad intelligence on Iraq may have resulted partly from the administration's heavy reliance on third countries to carry out interrogations of Qaeda members and others detained as part of American counterterrorism efforts. The Bush administration used Mr. Libi's accounts as the basis for its prewar claims, now discredited, that ties between Iraq and Al Qaeda included training in explosives and chemical weapons."
http://fairuse.1accesshost.com/news2/nyt129.html
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Jimbo
12-09-2005, 06:51 PM
Trashing The Constitution - :-o :-o :-o

Trashing "The US Constitution"...

The Constitution - It's Just A Goddamned Piece Of Paper
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7779.shtml (Capitol Hill Blue)
http://www.rense.com/general69/paper.htm (Rense)
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Jimbo
12-10-2005, 12:09 PM
Defenders Of The Constitution - Terrorists ??? - :-o :-o :-o

Defenders Of The Constitution - Terrorists ???

Do You Support The Constitution ??? Your're A Terrorist Suspect !!!
"Right-Wing Extremists - "Defenders" of US Constitution against federal government & the UN (Super Patriots)"."
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/FBIsuspect.html

Terrorist Flyer - Front
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/FBI-MCSOTerroristFlyer-Front.jpg

Terrorist Flyer - Back
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/FBI-MCSOTerroristFlyer-Back.jpg

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Jimbo
12-11-2005, 12:56 AM
The US Constitution - :-o :-o :-o

The Soul Of Our Nation

The US Constitution - Transmits Ideas Which Are The Soul Of Our Nation

Dear Mr. President, About The Constitution . . .
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/pieceofpaper.php

“Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,” Bush screamed back. “It’s just a goddamned piece of paper!”
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7779.shtml

Let us start out with the fact that the Constitution is actually written on parchment, not paper. A trivial point, I grant you, but one that reveals (along with your inability to correctly pronounce the word "nuclear") a shocking lack of education in a head of state.

But to get to the point, the Constitution is not the parchment itself, but the ideas written upon it; ideas which form the foundations of our nation, ideas which would carry equal weight if written on stone, glass, metal, or even paper. These ideas are the soul of the nation. They include the recognition that the people of this nation have certain rights, rights which the government does not have the authority to remove. These rights include freedom of speech, to say what we think about the nation at any and all times, to write that opinion down and share it however we choose to. These rights include the freedom to worship as we choose, free from coercion. These rights include the right to privacy, in our homes and businesses, free from government intrusions other than in very specific and well-defined circumstances.

Maybe those rights are inconvenient to you, as such rights are always inconvenient to tyrants, but you are not allowed the choice which rights you will abide by or not. That too is spelled out explicitly in the Constitution.

The Constitution isn't just a piece of paper or parchment. It's a contract; the original contract with America. It's the contract you yourself swore an oath to preserve, protect, and defend against all enemies both foreign and domestic. You attached your name to that promise. You swore that oath before a judge of the United States Supreme Court, with your hand on a bible. That isn't just scenery for the cameras. Swearing an oath before a judge carries legal obligations with that oath, and legal penalties for breaking that oath.

The election process by which you claim authority is defined in that Constitution. And as you claim authority by Constitutional process, so too are you limited by Constitutional process. If you act outside the limits of the Constitution, you are no longer acting as the President, but as a private citizen abusing the powers with which you were trusted. A government that acts outside the Constitution ceases to be the legal government of this land.

The Constitution exists not only to tell the government what it may do, but more importantly what it may not do. You, as the President, are not allowed to declare wars without the US Congress. You, the President, are not allowed to seize people at random and send them off to be tortured. And most of all, you, the President, and not allowed to lie to the people and to the Congress.

Every President before you, including your father, swore that oath to preserve, protect, and defend that Constitution. Millions of Americans died in wars in the firm belief that the form of government describes on that parchment was worth such a sacrifice. To state that the Constitution is just a "dammed piece of paper" is a slap in the face of every American who ever donned the uniform of the military forces of this country.

Go over to Arlington National Cemetery. It's not that far from where you live. Look at those tombstones. By your statement, you have written across and every one the words, "Died for a goddamned piece of paper."

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nohope187
12-11-2005, 08:04 PM
Jimbo wrote:
The US Constitution - :-o :-o :-o

The Soul Of Our Nation YES, IT'S DEAD IF YOU HAVEN'T NOTICED.

The US Constitution - Transmits Ideas Which Are The Soul Of Our Nation

Dear Mr. President, About The Constitution . . .
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/pieceofpaper.php

“Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,” Bush screamed back. “It’s just a goddamned piece of paper!”
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7779.shtml

Let us start out with the fact that the Constitution is actually written on parchment, not paper. A trivial point, I grant you, but one that reveals (along with your inability to correctly pronounce the word "nuclear") a shocking lack of education in a head of state.

But to get to the point, the Constitution is not the parchment itself, but the ideas written upon it; ideas which form the foundations of our nation, ideas which would carry equal weight if written on stone, glass, metal, or even paper. These ideas are the soul of the nation. They include the recognition that the people of this nation have certain rights, TRY EXERCISING THOSE RIGHTS BY NOT PAYING TAXES AND SEE HOW FAR IT GETS YOU OR TRY CONVINCING A COP WHO PULLED YOU OVER THAT HE'S A PUBLIC SERVANT.rights which the government does not have the authority to remove. These rights include freedom of speech, to say what we think about the nation at any and all times, to write that opinion down and share it however we choose to. These rights include the freedom to worship as we choose, free from coercion. These rights include the right to privacy, in our homes and businesses, free from government intrusions other than in very specific and well-defined circumstances. HAVE YOU FORGOTTON THE PATRIOT ACT AND THE CREATION OF DEPT. OF HOMELAND SECURITY?

Maybe those rights are inconvenient to you, as such rights are always inconvenient to tyrants, but you are not allowed the choice which rights you will abide by or not. That too is spelled out explicitly in the Constitution. JUST ABOUT EVERY OTHER PRESIDENT HAS CONTRIBUTED TO THE EROSION OF FREEDOM, GWB AIN'T ALONE.

The Constitution isn't just a piece of paper or parchment. It's a contract; the original contract with America. It's the contract you yourself swore an oath to preserve, protect, and defend against all enemies both foreign and domesticWELL, HE OBVIOUSLY LIED AS EVERYONE ELSE HAS FOR AT LEAST THE LAST FIVE DECADES. You attached your name to that promise. You swore that oath before a judge of the United States Supreme Court, with your hand on a bibleYOU KNOW GWB AIN'T CHRISTIAN SO THAT'S NO BIG SUPRISE. That isn't just scenery for the cameras. Swearing an oath before a judge carries legal obligations with that oath, and legal penalties for breaking that oath.

The election process by which you claim authority is defined in that Constitution. And as you claim authority by Constitutional process, so too are you limited by Constitutional process. If you act outside the limits of the Constitution, you are no longer acting as the President, but as a private citizen abusing the powers with which you were trusted. A government that acts outside the Constitution ceases to be the legal government of this land. YOU'RE RIGHT, IT ISN'T THE LEGAL GOVERNMENT OF THIS LAND AS FAR AS THAT DOCUMENT IS CONCERNED. HASN'T BEEN FOR AWHILE.

The Constitution exists not only to tell the government what it may do, but more importantly what it may not do.THAT DOESN'T APPLY ANYMORE, REFER TO ABOVE STATEMENT. You, as the President, are not allowed to declare wars without the US Congress. You, the President, are not allowed to seize people at random and send them off to be tortured. And most of all, you, the President, and not allowed to lie to the people and to the Congress. BUT HE DID, AND HE'S STILL GETTING AWAY WITH IT ISN'T HE?

Every President before you, including your father, swore that oath to preserve, protect, and defend that ConstitutionBUT AGAIN, MOST IF NOT ALL OF THEM LIED. Millions of Americans died in wars in the firm belief that the form of government describes on that parchment was worth such a sacrifice.THEY DIED IN VAIN, THEY WEREN'T FIGHTING FOR FREEDOM, IN EVERY WAR SAVE THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR, THEY WERE FIGHTING FOR THE NWO PURPOSES OF ENSLAVING AMERICA To state that the Constitution is just a "dammed piece of paper" is a slap in the face of every American who ever donned the uniform of the military forces of this country.THEY NEED A SLAP IN THE FACE TO WAKE THEM UP FROM FIGHTING ANOTHER WAR FOR NWO LIKE IRAQ AND EVERYTHING ELSE MIDDLE EAST

Go over to Arlington National Cemetery. It's not that far from where you live. Look at those tombstones. By your statement, you have written across and every one the words, "Died for a goddamned piece of paper."ONCE AGAIN, THEY BELIEVE THEY FOUGHT AND DIED FOR FREEDOM, BUT THEY WERE REALLY ONLY HELPING BRING ABOUT MORE TYRANNY VIA PROBLEM/REACTION/SOLUTION.

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Jimbo
12-12-2005, 02:24 PM
America's Military Dictatorship Dangerously Close - :-o :-o :-o

America's Military Dictatorship Dangerously Close

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Former Congressman Claims Military Dictatorship Dangerously Close
"Former Republican Congressman and CIA official Bob Barr says that there is a danger recent developments describe a trend of America slipping into a totalitarian society and that the Bush administration are doing everything in their power to see that this happens."

"I think it's a real danger where we have the military becoming involved in all sorts of domestic matters and we have the government being able to seize very private personal records on people without any suspicion that they've done anything wrong. This is a dramatic turn of events that has accelerated greatly since 9/11."

"Even when the leaders in Washington say we're not going to let the terrorists change our way of life, they are implementing policies that do precisely that."
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2005/111205totalitariandanger.htm

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Jimbo
12-12-2005, 10:41 PM
Accustoming Americans To The Prospect Of Military Rule ??? - :-o :-o :-o

Accustoming Americans To The Prospect Of "Military Rule"

Pentagon Devising Scenarios For Martial Law In US
"According to a report published Monday by the Washington Post, the Pentagon has developed its first ever war plans for operations within the continental United States, in which terrorist attacks would be used as the justification for imposing martial law on cities, regions or the entire country.

The front-page article cites sources working at the headquarters of the military’s Northern Command (Northcom), located in Colorado Springs, Colorado. The plans themselves are classified, but “officers who drafted the plans” gave details to Post reporter Bradley Graham, who was recently given a tour of Northcom headquarters at Peterson Air Force Base. The article thus appears to be a deliberate leak conducted for the purpose of accustoming the American population to the prospect of military rule.

The anti-terrorism scare has a propaganda purpose: to manipulate the American people and induce the public to accept drastic inroads against democratic rights. As the Pentagon planning suggests, the American working class faces the danger of some form of military-police dictatorship in the United States."
http://www.asiantribune.com/show_article.php?id=2620

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Jimbo
12-21-2005, 04:43 PM
How Many More Lies Do We Need To Feel Safe In America ??? - :-o :-o :-o

How Many More Lies Do We Need To Feel Safe In America ???

Clear Violation Of The 1978 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act - Bush’s Snoopgate
"President Bush came out swinging on Snoopgate—he made it seem as if those who didn’t agree with him wanted to leave us vulnerable to Al Qaeda—but it will not work. We’re seeing clearly now that Bush thought 9/11 gave him license to act like a dictator, or in his own mind, no doubt, like Abraham Lincoln during the Civil War.

No wonder Bush was so desperate that The New York Times not publish its story on the National Security Agency eavesdropping on American citizens without a warrant, in what lawyers outside the administration say is a clear violation of the 1978 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10536559/site/newsweek

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Jimbo
12-21-2005, 08:14 PM
Tearing Down The Wall - :-o :-o :-o

Tearing Down The Wall

Judge Resigns Over Secret Surveillance - May Have Tainted The Court
"...it stemmed from deep concern that the surveillance program Bush authorized was legally questionable and may have tainted the work of the court."
http://news.yahoo.com/fc/World/Espionage_and_Intelligence

Bush Forcing The Nation To Choose Degradation Of Our Values Or Impeachment - The Huffington Post
"Until Mr. Bush openly proclaimed as commander in chief that he can brush aside the law, cries for impeachment were heard only on the political fringe, although most Americans have long since realized that he misled America into war"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2005/12/21/bush-forcing-the-nation-t_n_12676.html

Violation Of Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act
"Finally we have a Washington scandal that goes beyond sex, corruption and political intrigue to big issues like security versus liberty and the reasonable bounds of presidential power."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10536559/site/newsweek/

Talon Reports On Civilian Internal Enemies
"The Pentagon acknowledged last week that the Talon database contained reports on peaceful civilian protests and demonstrations that should have been purged long ago under Defense Department regulations." "In short, to protest against the "war" is to engage in terrorism and we know what the Bushcons do to people who are considered terrorists."
http://www.rense.com/general69/Int.htm

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Jimbo
12-21-2005, 09:55 PM
The Assault On Our Liberties & The Constitutional Order - :-o :-o :-o

The Assault On Our Liberties & The Constitutional Order

Bush's Wartime Dictatorship – by Justin Raimondo
"Of course, the regime isn't locking up its domestic opponents and "renditioning" them off to some godforsaken gulag quite yet. However, it is more and more treating opposition to its policies – or even discussion of its methods – as the equivalent of treason, and this story about how, in response to the NSA revelations, the president summoned the executive editor and the publisher of the New York Times to the Oval Office merely underscores how far we have gone in that direction. The president went out of his way to denounce the Times piece as "a shameful act," and this overbearing style is par and parcel of the developing tyranny. Lew Rockwell has posited the rise of what he calls "red-state fascism," as have I, and we can see, from recent events, that this phenomenon is quickly congealing from a fluid potentiality into a hard reality. All the elements of a new American fascism are in place: a regime that recognizes no restraints on its power, either moral or constitutional; the rise of a leader cult surrounding the president; and a foreign policy of relentless aggression. And make no mistake: it is this latter that makes all the rest of it possible."
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=8284

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Indred
12-21-2005, 10:19 PM
"The rise of a leader cult surrounding the president". I have recently seen this worrisome aspect of American life. A completely blind faith in Bush as if he were all powerful and also infallible. Nothing this man does seems to cast any doubt on his right to be president or in his ability to be president. The more religious he paints himself the more these people believe he is. They like his arrogant ignorance and these are the very people hurt by his reduction in taxes for the rich. These are the very people whose ability to support themselves in their old age will be destroyed by this man. Their blindness almost borders on the supernatural. What strange times these be.

Jimbo
12-22-2005, 12:28 AM
A Following ??? – :-o :-o :-o

Arrogant Ignorance Indeed

Strange Times Indeed
For those who followed those “news not aired”, it is obvious he wasn’t elected neither the first time nor specially the second. Why? Because obviously, he is not what true Americans wanted in the first place. A failure from the start. The rejection was always there. The polls were low from the start. That’s why 911 saved his ass. But now, the discontent it is larger than it ever was. And it’s continuing to grow. Yes, many were originally fooled once, but were soon disillusioned. To me the worst time in my entire life was when we were under a completely preventable attack & he just sat there, like a goat. I could have told him what to do. A failure from the start, but he was placed there for the NWO, no doubt. The problem is now that there are too many “asses” on the line. There are too many careers in jeopardy, too many deaths, too many suicides, too many resignations, & too many have been caught. Too many mistakes were made, too many wrongs, too many “slips of the tongue,” & nothing, absolutely nothing good coming out of this whatsoever. The illusion of a “following” is obviously created by the “propaganda machine.” Notice how they make it seem as though they never make a mistake. It’s never on a negative note, never critical, & only when they want. All the news a filtered & created for effect. It’s not about “information.” It’s about “disinformation.” So, if he comes down, it’s because someone else decided to pull the floor from underneath, no doubt. But the show will go on… no doubt.

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Ozzy_dopster
12-22-2005, 03:02 PM
Sure. We all witness the cutting around the corners; I guess pulling the rug is next.

Jimbo
12-22-2005, 05:20 PM
With Enough Power To Secretly Spy On All Political Opponents - :-o :-o :-o

With Enough Power To Secretly Spy On All Political Oponents

Bypassing "The Constitution", With The "Terrorist Al-Qaeda Excuse," & At Tax-Payer's Expense

Presiding "Above The Law"

18,000 Al-Qaeda Cells In The US, Or Political Opponents ???
"According to the Bush Administration and the head of the NSA, all those extra-legal taps were aimed at Al Qaeda suspects (the administration argument is that the Congressional authorization in September 2001 for the President to use force to pursue Al Qaeda gave him the authority he needed to justify the executive order on NSA warrant-less domestic spying).

Does anyone really believe there are thousands of legitimate Al Qaeda targets to monitor in the U.S.? If so, just who is left for the U.S. to allegedly be hunting in Afghanistan? The entire Al Qaeda terrorist apparatus, and probably Hamas and the Red Army Faction, must have moved stateside to come up with those kinds of numbers!

No. History has made it all too obvious what has actually been going on: It's Cointelpro all over again."
http://www.rense.com/general69/alq.htm

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Jimbo
12-23-2005, 11:44 PM
That's 87% Respondents Want Him On Trial - :-o :-o :-o

That's 87% Respondents Want Him On Trial

Yes, between the secret spying, the deceptions leading to war and more, there is plenty to justify putting him on trial.

Unless of course, he is the declared “American Dictator,” & we can’t, because there is no power on our side to make the law of the “Constitution Of The US” & “The Bill Of Rights” stand to our defense. In that case all you can do is say, "Goodbye Land" & "Hello my fellow slaves"...

Bush's Dangerous Game - w/ Allegiance To No One
"Bush abused the NSA for personal political purposes."

"This is serious evidence that the American people now reject Bush and stand aware that the man represents the same dynamic to America as Hitler to Germany."

"If this interpretation is incorrect it can only be incorrect on the basis that that the Congress is not willing to sweep a Constitutional crisis under the rug, or that the Bush administration is impeached altogether which requires not only the country to face the NSA abuse but the truths of 9-11."
http://www.rense.com/general69/game.htm

Bush Plans National Despotism Party
"President Bush, seeking to become President for Life, has given the green light to key recommendations of a secret 30-page planning document entitled "Justifications for One-Party Rule in America.

Two sources verify that terrorist threats or attacks against key cities such as Houston and Bakersfield will be used to trigger formation of a national unity party, the National Despotism Party, which would then be asked by the President to suspend the Constitution and declare "necessary and essential measures"(Martial Law ???) to fight the war on terror on American soil."
http://www.lewrockwell.com/rozeff/rozeff53.html

Judge Resigns Over Secret Surveillance - May Have Tainted The Court
"A federal judge has resigned from a special court set up to oversee government surveillance, apparently in protest of President Bush's secret authorization of a domestic spying program on people with suspected terrorist ties.

U.S. District Judge James Robertson would not comment Wednesday on his resignation, but The Washington Post reported that it stemmed from deep concern that the surveillance program Bush authorized was legally questionable and may have tainted the work of the court."
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=1428853&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

Daschle - Congress Didn't Ok Spying Authority
"The use of warrantless wiretaps on American citizens was never discussed when Congress authorized the White House to use force against al-Qaida after the Sept. 11 attacks, says former Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle.

In an article printed Friday on the op-ed page of The Washington Post, Daschle also wrote that Congress explicitly denied a White House request for war-making authority in the United States."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051223/ap_on_go_co/domestic_spying_51

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Jimbo
01-13-2006, 10:36 PM
With Absolute Power & Without "Checks & Balances" ??? - :-o :-o :-o

With Absolute Power & Without "Checks & Balances"

Bush Could Seize Absolute Control Of US Government
"President George W. Bush has signed executive orders giving him sole authority to impose martial law, suspend habeas corpus and ignore the Posse Comitatus Act that prohibits deployment of U.S. troops on American streets . This would give him absolute dictatorial power over the government with no checks and balances ."

"Brinkerhoff wrote that intentions of Posse Comitatus are misunderstood and misapplied and that the U.S. has in times of national emergency the full and absolute authority to send troops into American streets to enforce order and maintain the peace."

"Executive orders already signed by Bush allow the Northern Command to send troops into American streets, seize control of radio and television stations and networks and impose martial law in times of national emergency ."
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7986.shtml

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Jimbo
02-16-2006, 05:32 AM
Millions Of Americans' Constitutional Rights Violated - :-o :-o :-o

Millions Of Americans' Constitutional Rights Violated

Whistleblower Says NSA Violations Bigger
"A former NSA employee said Tuesday there is another ongoing top-secret surveillance program that might have violated millions of Americans' Constitutional rights.

Russell D. Tice told the House Government Reform Subcommittee on National Security, Emerging Threats and International Relations he has concerns about a "special access" electronic surveillance program that he characterized as far more wide-ranging than the warrentless wiretappingrecently exposed by the New York Times but he is forbidden from discussing the program with Congress.

Tice said he believes it violates the Constitution's protection against unlawful search and seizures but has no way of sharing the information without breaking classification laws. He is not even allowed to tell the congressional intelligence committees - members or their staff - because they lack high enough clearance."
http://www.upi.com/SecurityTerrorism/view.php?StoryID=20060214-053955-9494r

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Jimbo
03-08-2006, 11:00 PM
What Can We Do To Reclaim Our Birthright? - :-o :-o :-o

What Can We Do To Reclaim Our Birthright?
Then we won’t be able to answer our children, “What happened to “America?” How come we are not “free?” What can we “do?,” to reclaim our “birthright?”

Are We Still A “Democracy” When We Are…

Guilty Until Proven Innocent.

Can not discuss ideology, or display slogans or posters that either question or criticizes your government’s global & domestic policies at any school or university, w/o being subjected to serious scrutiny by administration or authorities.

Can no longer make a living w/ the career you chose & succeeded for the last 20 years, because now those jobs are being offered to third world participants in the global village, instead of being available to support Americans & their families.

Can no longer find a job. Period.

Can not legally steal unless you belong to an elite secret society, like “Skull & Bones.”

Can no longer dream of the American dream. As a matter of fact, you can no longer “dream” of a better tomorrow, because there are no signs whatsoever that there is going to be a bright future anywhere you look.

Can not expect to hear anything about this in the “regular news” on TV, because they just don’t cover what is going on in America right now. They pretend things are just fine. It’s just another war, another year, another slump in the economy, another lay-off, another law to remove civil-rights, another killed soldier, another killed microbiologist, another tax, another… mistake,… or it’s just “friendly fire”…

Can no longer peacefully demonstrate w/o being harassed & photographed by secret police.

Can no longer believe that your government is actually looking out for your well being, in any regard.

Can no longer believe that your government can provide an environment in which you could have the fair chance to prosper in any possible way.

Can no longer believe that your government represents you as an individual w/in a society where one can make a living, w/o violating some insidious law, like fishing w/o a lisence.

If things keep taking this course, pretty soon we will not even be able to express our frustrations in writing & posting them in internet forums, like this one, where other frustrated individuals can read them & realize, they are not the only ones living the same nightmare.

And I could keep going, on, & on, & on… but what’s the point?





Then we won’t be able to answer our children, “What happened to “America?” How come we are not “free?” What can we “do?,” to reclaim our “birthright?”

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redrat11
03-09-2006, 10:32 AM
JIMBO
As much as I like reading your posts I have to to say that you keep writing that America is a Democracy, Wrong, America is a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC! Theres a big difference, however I'm not blind or braindead, America now is currently a Tin-Horn Dictatorship just as you've said on other threads. And that is truly sad and pathetic.http://www.gemworld.com/USAvsUS.htm



:-o :-o :-o http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/therevelation2.shtml

Jimbo
03-09-2006, 12:19 PM
America’s Tin-Horn Dictatorship - :-o :-o :-o

America’s Tin-Horn Dictatorship !!!

America’s Tin-Horn Dictatorship !!!

I only use the word “Democracy,” ironically & as a reminder. Not that it ever really was one, but so they keep telling us & the rest of the World that we are one, & that we are in a worldly crusade to spread “Democracy.” Just as “we can only maintain peace violently,” “War is Peace,” “Slavery is Freedom,” & such, as by the “lies we are fed every day” their “fictitious & fabricated events” become our “reality.” The sad thing is that here in the US a lot of people still think that we are still indeed a “Democracy.” They have yet to ponder on what’s really going on…

Thank God for "Freedom Of Speech"...
8-)

Jimbo
04-25-2006, 03:32 PM
A PNAC Primer - Rise Of The Neocons - :-o :-o :-o

A PNAC Primer - Rise Of The Neocons
For the benefit of the <b>”<u>newbies</u>”</b>, this will help put current events in their proper perspective.

A PNAC Primer - Rise Of The Neocons

<b>June 1997</b> - The <b>Project for a New American Century (PNAC)</b> was born. Populated by influential Movers of industry and Shakers of public opinion, the <b>PNAC</b> is an organization united in the <u>vision for a </b>global U.S. empire</u></b> - <b>"Pax Americana"</b> - through coercion and military domination. Their philosophy can be simply summarized:
<blockquote><ul>
<li>There are countries to plunder and fortunes to be made. You have it, we want it. Do as we say or suffer the consequences.</li>
<li>The U.S. already has a powerful military but we plan to nurture and grow it until it's massive and we are indominable. Resistance is futile. We are.......</li>
</ul></blockquote>
<b>Dick Cheney, Jeb Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Steve Forbes, William J. Bennett, Frank Gaffney, and I. Lewis ("Scooter") Libby</b>, signator's - among others - of the <b>PNAC's "Statement of Principles</b>".
<blockquote><i>
"We need to...challenge regimes hostile to our interests and values."

"We need to increase defense spending significantly if we are to carry out our global responsibilities today and modernize our armed forces for the future."

<b>"<u>It is important to shape circumstances before crises emerge</u>."</b>
</i></blockquote>
http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm

<b>JANUARY 1998</b> - The <b>PNAC</b> knew that he who owns the oil also owns the world so they sent a letter to President Clinton urging him to attack Iraq and remove Saddam Hussein from power since he put "a significant portion of the world's supply of oil at hazard". Clinton didn't grant them their wish and the PNAC was disheartened that they couldn't manipulate the military while outside of the White House power structure.

http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm

<u>PNAC Members</u> Elevated To The Bush Hierarchy Include:
<blockquote><ul>
<li><b>Donald Rumsfeld</b> - Secretary of Defense</li>
<li><b>Paul Wolfowitz</b> - Deputy Secretary of Defense</li>
<li><b>Elliott Abrams</b> - Member of the National Security Council</li>
<li><b>John Bolton</b> - Undersecretary for Arms Control and InternationalSecurity</li>
<li><b>Richard Perle</b> - Chairman of the advisory Defense Policy Board</li>
<li><b>Richard Armitage</b> - Deputy Secretary of State</li>
<li><b>John Bolton</b> - Undersecretary of State for Disarmament</li>
<li><b>Zalmay Khalilzad</b> - White House liaison to the Iraqi opposition</li>
<li><b>Condoleezza Rice</b> - National Security Advisor</li>
</ul></blockquote>
<b>Entire Article:</b>
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x932617

Thank God for "Freedom Of Speech"...
8-)

Jimbo
04-29-2006, 11:32 AM
Film: Exposes NWO Police State - :-o :-o :-o

Film: Exposes NWO Police State

<img src="http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/april2006/280406substanceD.jpg">
Film - A Scanner Darkly (http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/april2006/280406substanceD.jpg)

Film Exposes Phony Drug War & Police State
Coming soon to a town near you. Be ready !!! – ”Come with us, “For Your Protection”…”

A new film set for release later this year chronicles how power interests exploit the drug war in order to create unthinking armies of drone servants and erect police state measures to prevent the people from ever glimpsing the dark truth behind a highly mechanized surveillance panopticon.

The film stars Keanu Reeves, Robert Downy, Jr., Woody Harrelson, Winona Ryder and features Alex Jones himself-- still bullhorning the truth in the future nightmare world. The Warner Brothers film is currently slated for release on July 7, 2006.

This movie brilliantly exposes the fraud of the drug war and how governments and power interests engender chaos in order to maintain their stranglehold on the human population.

An iron fist police state, a multi-tentacle surveillance grid and the abolition of freedom of speech protects the truth behind Substance D, a reality the characters seek to quantify in the midst of their hallucinogenic haze.

Society is managed similar to the tyranny of Communist China, where protesters are simply grabbed off the street and disappeared, as encapsulated by Alex Jones' role.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2006/280406powerfulfilm.htm

Film Exposes Phony Drug War & Police State
http://wip.warnerbros.com/ascannerdarkly

Video Clips Preview
http://pdl.warnerbros.com/wip/us/med/scanner_darkly/scanner_darkly_a_tlr2_56.wmv (low res)
http://pdl.warnerbros.com/wip/us/med/scanner_darkly/scanner_darkly_a_tlr2_300.wmv (med res)

Thank God for "Freedom Of Speech"...
8-)

redrat11
09-19-2007, 08:15 PM
I think you were "ahead of your time" on this subject Jimbo, I was wondering if you were familiar with this website, and if you could possibly add more insight on this subject matter.



I'm not qualified to add any thoughts on this matter.


Except for, WILL WE ACCEPT THE AMERO? IS IT REAL?


http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion.com/TwoActsOfTyranny.html

BlueAngel
09-19-2007, 08:37 PM
RedRat:

I have a serious question for you.

When you ask, "Will we accept the NAU," who is the WE that you are referring to?

If it is the people, are you still under the ILLUSION that the people have the ability to accept or reject what the "secret government" thrusts upon us?

Are you still under the illusion that you or any of us have an iota of power regarding any decisions that are made behind closed doors in secret meetings between the elite and those who control the world?

Are you still under the illusion that CONGRESS is of the people, for the people and by the people?

If so, I suggest you face reality.

Excuse me, for the interruption, JIMBO.

redrat11
09-19-2007, 09:09 PM
BlueAngel wrote:
RedRat:

I have a serious question for you.

When you ask, "Will we accept the NAU," who is the WE that you are referring to?

If it is the people, are you still under the ILLUSION that the people have the ability to accept or reject what the "secret government" thrusts upon us?

Are you still under the illusion that you or any of us have an iota of power regarding any decisions that are made behind closed doors in secret meetings between the elite and those who control the world?

Are you still under the illusion that CONGRESS is of the people, for the people and by the people?

If so, I suggest you face reality.

Excuse me, for the interruption, JIMBO.



I refer to WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, yes, I still believe there is HOPE. Not in Congress, Not in the Judiciary, Not in the Executive Branch, I BELIEVE there is hope in the AMERICAN PEOPLE, and I further believe that once faced with a overwhelming event, staged or not, the American People will do what it takes to reign in the EVIL around us. Whether by Force, or other means.



And I will ask you again, as I've asked you before on the R. Paul thread.



What are we supposed to do, Rollover and play Dead? Please tell me BA, What is the solution/s to these pressing problems we all face? You keep "suggesting" we the people are somehow incompetent to do anything about the problems we face, of course you hav'nt said this, but, I suspect your using deceptful words to frighten people, as if the PTB are so invicible. BS!


You have'nt offered any solutions have you? Everything seems to be a DARK HORRIFYING FUTURE with no possibility for humanity to overcome the Evil.


My solution is GOD and Jesus Christ, I'm not ashamed to say this, and if you feel the Bible is a fairy tale, GOOD FOR YOU, continue on, and may you prosper with or without salvation.



And also as I've written, R.Paul is Americas last Hope for reigning in the Evil government, ALONG WITH THE SUPPORT AND HELP OF MILLIONS OF VIGILANT CITIZENS BEHIND HIM, both in deed and in word.



Night.

BlueAngel
09-19-2007, 09:21 PM
RedRat said:

I refer to WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, yes, I still believe there is HOPE. Not in Congress, Not in the Judiciary, Not in the Executive Branch, I BELIEVE there is hope in the AMERICAN PEOPLE, and I further believe that once faced with a overwhelming event, staged or not, the American People will do what it takes to reign in the EVIL around us. Whether by Force, or other means.

The American people are powerless except through our voice while freedom of speech still exists. The American people have no force that can compete with the Military Industrial Complex?


And I will ask you again, as I've asked you before on the R. Paul thread.



What are we supposed to do, Rollover and play Dead? Please tell me BA, What is the solution/s to these pressing problems we all face? You keep "suggesting" we the people are somehow incompetent to do anything about the problems we face, of course you hav'nt said this, but, I suspect your using deceptful words to frighten people, as if the PTB are so invicible. BS!

We have FREEDOM OF SPEECH at present and that's about it. Better to face reality than live the illusion they created. I have never said the people are INCOMPETENT, RedRat. We have no power because they control the world. I am not attempting to frighten people. It's called the truth and facing reality.

You have'nt offered any solutions have you? Everything seems to be a DARK HORRIFYING FUTURE with no possibility for humanity to overcome the Evil.

You think I have solutions. That's quite a compliment. I have offered my intelligence. I have armed you. Now go out and fight with words and deeds.

My solution is GOD and Jesus Christ, I'm not ashamed to say this, and if you feel the Bible is a fairy tale, GOOD FOR YOU, continue on, and may you prosper with or without salvation.

Please do not misconstrue my words. I said the Bible is a little bit of fact mixed with alot of fiction. The Bible is seperate from God and Jesus. Please keep that in mind.



And also as I've written, R.Paul is Americas last Hope for reigning in the Evil government, ALONG WITH THE SUPPORT AND HELP OF MILLIONS OF VIGILANT CITIZENS BEHIND HIM, both in deed and in word.

Like TB said, he doesn't look well.



Night.

redrat11
09-20-2007, 06:28 AM
BlueAngel wrote:


*****You have'nt offered any solutions have you? Everything seems to be a DARK HORRIFYING FUTURE with no possibility for humanity to overcome the Evil.******

You think I have solutions. That's quite a compliment. I have offered my intelligence. I have armed you. Now go out and fight with words and deeds.





Freudian Slip there "BA"- you are what many people suspect, I said YOU HAVE"NT OFFERED ANY SOLUTIONS TO PROBLEMS, you constantly belittle anyone who challenges the PTB, as if your their protector, perhaps you are, perhaps you are a government operative and a liar. just as you have stated before.

BlueAngel
09-20-2007, 08:04 AM
RedRat said:

"Freudian Slip there "BA"- you are what many people suspect, I said YOU HAVE"NT OFFERED ANY SOLUTIONS TO PROBLEMS, you constantly belittle anyone who challenges the PTB, as if your their protector, perhaps you are, perhaps you are a government operative and a liar. just as you have stated before."

------------------------------------------------

I repeat.

I have never said I have any solutions to the world's evil.

I do not belittle anyone who challenges the PTB.

That is your illusion.

Oh, yes. I protect them. As if I'm all the protection they require.

Certainly, that's why I never have anything postitive to say about them.

Right, RedRat?

That's how I protect them?

By exposing my incarceration in MKULTRA/Project Monarch and used in the Music Industry; by the CIA/Mafia as a sex slave and in pornography.

YEP!

I write about that because I'm so thrilled to let everyone who reads this site and what I write know about the disgust they inflicted upon me.

That's how I protect them?

By writing about the filth that they are.

George_Bush
09-20-2007, 09:51 AM
redrat11 wrote:

BlueAngel wrote:


*****You have'nt offered any solutions have you? Everything seems to be a DARK HORRIFYING FUTURE with no possibility for humanity to overcome the Evil.******

You think I have solutions. That's quite a compliment. I have offered my intelligence. I have armed you. Now go out and fight with words and deeds.





Freudian Slip there "BA"- you are what many people suspect, I said YOU HAVE"NT OFFERED ANY SOLUTIONS TO PROBLEMS, you constantly belittle anyone who challenges the PTB, as if your their protector, perhaps you are, perhaps you are a government operative and a liar. just as you have stated before.

I think she's a cheese puff.

Jimbo
09-20-2007, 12:07 PM
redrat11 wrote:
I think you were "ahead of your time" on this subject Jimbo, I was wondering if you were familiar with this website, and if you could possibly add more insight on this subject matter.



I'm not qualified to add any thoughts on this matter.


Except for, WILL WE ACCEPT THE AMERO? IS IT REAL?


http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion.com/TwoActsOfTyranny.html

From: Ron Paul 2008

September 20, 2007


Dear friend,

Our American way of life is under attack. And it is up to us to save it.

The world's elites are busy forming a North American Union. If they succeed, as they were in forming the European Union, the good ol' USA will only be a memory. We cannot let that happen.

The UN wants to confiscate our firearms and impose a global tax. The UN elites want to control the oceans with the Law of the Sea Treaty. And they want to use our military to police the world.

Our right to own and use property is fading because bureaucrats and special interests are abusing eminent domain.

Our right to educate our children as we choose is under assault. "No Child Left Behind" is seeing to that. And our right to say "no" to forced mental screening of our school-aged children is nearly gone.

The elites gave us a national ID card. They also gave us the most misnamed legislation in history: The Patriot Act. And these same people are pushing to give amnesty to illegal immigrants and erase our national borders.

Record government debt is putting a burden on our children and grandchildren that is shameful.

Yes. Our American way of life is under attack. And it's understandable that many are concerned, even discouraged, about the kind of country our children and grandchildren will inherit.

But we must never let discouragement become surrender.

One reason I am NOT discouraged is because I know I am not fighting alone. Each day I head out I know that you and thousands of other patriotic, freedom-loving Americans are right beside me, standing brave and true for what is good and right.

I need your help now, more than ever, to save the country we love...for the people we love.

My wife Carol and I celebrated our 50th wedding anniversary early this year. We are proud parents of five children and 18 grandchildren. We love them very much, as I know you love your family.

As a U.S. congressman, I always think about the well-being of my family and of all the families of our great nation when I cast a vote or introduce legislation. I also remember that I have sworn a solemn oath to uphold and protect the Constitution of the United States.

For me, upholding that oath is the first and best way to preserve and protect the blessed American way of life for our children and grandchildren.

And now you know why I'm running for president of the United States.

I ask for your help. Please send your maximum donation today by going to https://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate/

Sincerely,

Ron

Paid for by the Ron Paul 2008 Presidential Campaign Committee.

------------------------------------------------------------------

I’ll say more later, but for now I can say that I just try to keep up like everyone else. I have been reading sites like “rense.com (sightings.com), & infowars.com” for over 10 years now, if not more. When people, which a lot still do, question the information I give them, they used to say, like some still do, that “no, that’s never is going to happen here. That’s just “bullshit”.” But here it is. It is happening right before our eyes. As an individual you can only contribute individually, & as people we can have a greater impact. Use your imagination. Certain things you are better off not saying them out loud.

We shouldn’t waste our times arguing w/ one another, & trying to correct people & how they think. That’s why I try to just point out & indicate the information which might awake people up, as it awakes me when I read it. There is no time to waste. Every bit of contribution towards a free world do count, just like “every grain of sand” has its purpose w/in all of the “sands of the world.”

We have to keep seeing good where no one else sees good in people. Help those you can help. Give them knowledge & information. Lend a hand if you can lend a hand. If you cant’, well you just can’t. Do what you can.

I believe in the love & the eternity of the spirit. That will never die. We’ll go on. This world of matter will remain for those attached to this world. Love, knowledge, & wisdom come directly from spirit. Your soul is always connected to you & the universe. The majority of the time, we just focus on this reality, but we are always connected to spirit from within, & not without. That connection is unbreakable. No one can harm it, except our negativity towards ourselves & others. Those who harm others will suffer the consequences & harm themselves by loosing their spiritual individuality. Those will never know the meaning of eternal life. This life will pass & eternity will rein. We just have to be patient, do what’s right, do what is expected of spirit, & eternity will unfold before our eyes.

pipistrello
09-20-2007, 05:11 PM
Hi,
I dont know if its any help to you, but I have a huge collection of sites on the subject of "simbols that they use, I dont know if you can find it usefull, but i can send them to you

ciao pipistrello
8-)

George_Bush
09-20-2007, 05:33 PM
pipistrello wrote:
Hi,
I dont know if its any help to you, but I have a huge collection of sites on the subject of "simbols that they use, I dont know if you can find it usefull, but i can send them to you

ciao pipistrello
8-)

Ok. So let's have 'em.

Jimbo
09-25-2007, 08:11 AM
Bush Self-Pardoning War Crimes (For His Entire Administration) - ??? - :-o :-o :-o

http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/october2005/121005paul.jpg
Honorable Congressman Ron Paul (http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/october2005/121005paul.jpg)

Bush Self-Pardoning War Crimes ???
Bush Self-Pardoning War Crimes (For His Entire Administration)
Buried deep inside this legislation is a provision that will pardon President Bush and all the members of his administration of any possible crimes connected with the torture and mistreatment of detainees dated all the way back to September 11, 2001.

CNN The Cafferty File – Situation Room

CNN – Situation Room – Transcripts
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0609/27/sitroom.02.html

Let's check in with Jack Cafferty right now.

Jack, I'm beginning to think maybe I shouldn't have done these interviews yesterday and today. Should I feel guilty?

JACK CAFFERTY, CNN ANCHOR: Yes, I don't know, Wolf. If war breaks out between Pakistan and Afghanistan, you know, you may have some guys coming by and knocking on your door asking for transcripts.

Ordinarily, we don't do a question two days in a row, but this is important enough to be an exception. The House just passed President Bush's bill to redefine the treatment of detainees , and the Senate's expected to do the same thing tomorrow. Buried deep inside this legislation is a provision that will pardon President Bush and all the members of his administration of any possible crimes connected with the torture and mistreatment of detainees dated all the way back to September 11, 2001.

At least President Nixon had Gerald Ford to do his dirty work. President Bush is trying to pardon himself.

Here's the deal.

Under the War Crimes Act, violations of the Geneva Conventions are felonies . In some cases, punishable by death .

When the Supreme Court ruled the Geneva Conventions applied to al Qaeda and Taliban detainees, President Bush and his boys were suddenly in big trouble. They had been working these prisoners over pretty good.

In an effort to avoid possible prosecution, they're trying to cram this bill through Congress before the end of the week when Congress adjourns. The reason there's such a rush to do this, if the Democrats get control of the House in November, well, this kind of legislation probably wouldn't pass.

You want to know the real disgrace of what these people are about to do or are in the process of doing? Senator Bill Frist and Congressman Dennis Hastert and their Republican stooges apparently don't see anything wrong with this.

I really do wonder sometimes what we're becoming in this country.

The question is this: Should Congress pass a bill giving retroactive immunity to President Bush for possible war crimes ?

E-mail your thoughts to CaffertyFile@CNN.com or go to CNN.com/CaffertyFile -- Wolf.

BLITZER: Jack, thank you.

Caffertyfile@cnn.com
Cnn.com/caffertyfile

CNN BUSH UNITED NATIONS – yT Video
Should Bush Be Allowed To Pardon Himself & His Cronies?
“Should Congress pass a bill giving retroactive immunity to President Bush for possible war crimes?”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBUkxvfL_eE

Should Congress pass a bill giving retroactive immunity to President Bush for possible war crimes?

Answer: Absolutely NOT !!! That decision should be left to “President Ron Paul – 2008” .

Thank God for "Freedom Of Speech"... An “Informed Citizen” makes a good “Patriot.”
8-)

BlueAngel
09-25-2007, 05:48 PM
Jimbo said:

"In an effort to avoid possible prosecution, they're trying to cram this bill through Congress before the end of the week when Congress adjourns. The reason there's such a rush to do this, if the Democrats get control of the House in November, well, this kind of legislation probably wouldn't pass."

You're theory that there is a RUSH to push this legislation through NOW because the Democrats might have control of the HOUSE in November, 2008 doesn't hold water.

The Democrats are in control of Congress as we speak.

If you're basing your theory of Democrats controlling the House in November, 2008 if Ron Paul is elected President, this theory doesn't hold water either.

Ron Paul is not a Democrat.

If this bill is passed before the next Presidential election, we can thank all of Congress for that.

Democrats and Republicans alike.

Most of them work for the same masters.

I surmise you are suggesting that if Ron Paul were elected President, he would VETO this legislation.

They're not stupid.

The reason the legislation is being introduced now.

What?

Do you think they'd just sit on her buttocks until the next President is sworn into office?

Doesn't matter anyway.

Like I said, whomever is sworn in works for the same masters.

What is Ron Paul's opinion on the matter?

Who in the CONGRESS has broached the subject of prosecuting Bush and his cronies for war crimes?

Whether or not this falls under Executive Privilege, I'm not sure, but Clinton pardoned everyone he ever knew before he left office.

Bush can do the same.

Jimbo
09-25-2007, 06:17 PM
If you look at the date of the transcript you’d realize that this is old news. This took place about a year ago. However, it was posted on the RENSE site, I guess as a “reminder” of the ridiculous things this clan is capable of passing through Congress. What a team! Two angles, one goal. Anyway, my point is that, if for any miraculous occurrence they happened to need pardoning for alleged war crimes, their only hope would be the benevolence of the hand of true freedom. Ron Paul would be representative of a government completely different from what we’ve had in recent times & for quite some time. His opinion would matter, since if we left it to the American people, the outcome could be very unforgiving.

BlueAngel
09-25-2007, 06:38 PM
On September 27, 2006 when this was reported, Republicans were in charge of Congress.

Shortly thereafter Democrats took control.

So, what happened to the legislation?

Anyone follow-up on this OLD NEWS?

You say that if the decision to prosecute Bush and his cronies were left to the American people the outcome would be very unforgiving and better left in the hands of Ron Paul???

Why?

Would he be more forgiving than the American people?

The American people are not involved in the decision making process.

Jimbo
09-25-2007, 08:43 PM
Obviously not.

Ron Paul claims he wants to bring government back to the way it was (theoretically) intended to be. Where the power lies in the people, you know “by the people & for the people”, & where the government’s job is to make sure that the people’s rights are protected & not infringed upon, as well as following the Constitution. Our blueprint for fairness, equality, liberty, & the pursuit of happiness – A beautiful concept.

In recent videos on the Internet you can see where they were arresting people, mostly women, for reading the Constitution, in Washington, DC. When asked on camera, the cops wouldn’t say what the charges were, they wouldn’t even speak or say anything. Complete silence. Nobody knew what was going on. And then they have the audacity to claim at the UN, the global altar of world government for “mass” consumption, that we need to “spread Freedom” ??? What ??? – coming from the masters of falsehood & doublespeak, of lies & deception, hypocrisy & human indignation.

I don’t know what Ron Paul would do if faced w/ the decision to “pardon” war-crime criminals. He would probably stick w/ the Constitution & let that be the measuring stick by which the criminals would be judged. We probably wouldn’t go the ICC (International Criminal Court), since this institution is part of their global scheme. The Nazis got out of control (out of the control of the “secret global order”, their “global masters”) because of Hitler, & Hitler made an attempt on the “Pope” (you’d probably wonder why), w/o success. You might be aware of this I don’t know. The reason Nazi criminals were convicted, I think it was for more of a show than anything else. To make us “believe” that “justice” does exist. The real criminals were given new identities & exiled around the world. Many of them ended up in South America, & I am sure many other places around the world. Their top scientists & ideologues were absorbed by our institutions & also given new identities. That’s how they propelled the space program. What a scam. That’s why there is no Freedom. We were never Free. We were led to believe, all along, we were the “Free World”, when in fact they were just using us to colonize the world, to build the infrastructures, the rail-roads, the cities, to drop the communication lines, & to develop the industries & the technologies we have today.

Once they figured how to do all that, & to make it cheap, then they figured they can make it “even cheaper” in the “global village”. Where do you think that phrase came from. But for a “global village” to come into being, they first have to wipe out the “prosperity” we achieved. For the “global economy” to take hold they have to lower the standard of living of “prosperous” nations like the US, so that they can have their “dream”, “cheap labor” across the world. That’s why they want to let the Mexicans in, export all of our jobs out of the country, bring in “dirt cheap” H1-B visa workers from the poorest nations across the world, devalue the dollar, devalue the housing market (the next great robbery around the corner), destroy social security, destroy everyone’s pensions, & destroy everything along their path. For their “New World” to come into being, they have to destroy the “this world”, our world. For “sovereign & independent” nations to “stop being”, they have to destroy them. That’s why the war on terror has no end in sight. They want to get them all.

Wealth is not destroyed, but merely transferred (electronically across the world & into their Swiss Bank accounts), away from the pockets of those who lost it & into their “vaults”. Brilliant.

That’s why they want to wipe us out. By now, too many people know what’s going on.

redrat11
09-26-2007, 06:41 AM
Militarization of Health care...

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=CHO20051004&articleId=1041


Survival Guide (http://freedomguide.blogspot.com/2005/10/martial-law-survival-guide.html)

Jimbo
09-26-2007, 03:24 PM
How Can The U.S Morally & Legally “False Flag” Itself ??? - :-o :-o :-o

How Can The U.S Morally & Legally “False Flag” Itself ???

I don’t know the answer to this question, but perhaps w/ enough, reliable, researched, & corroborated information we can find out,…

By which mechanisms (whether legal or secret) can any U.S. high government official order a “False Flag” attack against its own citizens & infrastructure in order to mock, & thus fake, a foreign attack against the U.S. by an enemy outside of our borders & presumably from another country – & then use it as a justification for War? How can this be possible? And if so, who has the power to approve & order the execution of such an aggressive military exercise? And how, can this power be “eternally” removed, by the citizenry of the United States of America, & so that it never happens again?

A Blueprint For A “New Pearl Harbor” – 1998 – “A Catastrophic & Transformative Event” that can be used to “undermine” America’s fundamental sense of security – By design as of 1998.

Zelikow –


Excerpt Transcript – From the first half of the Video.


Phillip Zelikow in his capacity as the Staff Director for the Kane/Hamilton 911 Commission, that delivered its report in July, of 2004, is a very important figure, & he is one of the key operatives in the cover-up of the 911 terrorist attacks.

The guy is clearly an academic closely related to the Bush administration, close friend of Condoleezza Rice, & he had written about the so called “ Catastrophic Terrorism”, before 911. And yeah, he was in the perfect position to see how much hate could be made out of this event. He had already talked about “Catastrophic Terrorism” & in a sense knew how it could be used. He was certainly the perfect choice for helping to write the report, because this is a guy that could see how to manipulate it, in terms of peoples civil liberties, & getting a war going, & so on, & so, …he is the perfect guy.

“Foreign Affairs” the magazine for the “Council On Foreign Relations” (CFR), in its November, December, 1998 edition, published an article entitled “Catastrophic Terrorism – Imagining The Transformative Event”. The “Pearl Harbor” like event occurred just 3 years later. Philip Zelikow was 1 of the authors.

“…if the 1993 bombing of the WTC had succeeded, “the resulting horror and chaos would have exceeded our ability to describe it. Such an act of “Catastrophic Terrorism” would be a watershed event in American history. It could involve loss of life and property unprecedented in peacetime and undermine America’s fundamental sense of security… Like Pearl Harbor, the event would divide our past and future (thus break) into a before and an after. The United States might respond with ”Draconian Measures” scaling back civil liberties, allowing wider surveillance of citizens, detention of suspects and use of deadly force. More violence would follow, either future terrorist attacks or US counterattacks. Belatedly, Americans would judge their leaders negligent for not addressing terrorism more urgently.” Philip Zelikow, CATASTROPHIC TERRORISM: Imagining the Transformative Event – 1998.

“He was certainly the perfect choice for helping to write the report…”

Philip Zelikow, who is the head of the 911 Commission, has an interesting background. His “thesis” in college was on “Creating Public Myths”. And as many of us know, 911 was the “Ultimate Public Myth”.

““Contemporary History” is defined functionally by those critical people and events that go into forming the public’s presumptions about its immediate past… akin to “public myth” without all the negative implication.”

“Such presumptions are beliefs thought to be true (although not necessarily known to be true with certainty), and shared in common within the relevant political community.” – Philip Zelikow

Prior to his appointment to head the 911 Commission, Philip Zelikow was the executive director of the Aspen strategy group (Markle Task Force on National Security) whose members include Cheney, Rice and Wolfowitz.

My starting point is of course that these attacks were not the work of any group of Arab or Muslim fanatics, but were rather a “deliberate war provocation” orchestrated by the US Intelligence Community & the security bureaucracy. But let’s focus on Zelikow as an individual.

When Philip Zelikow was then appointed, to be the Staff Director, doing the substantive work of the Kane/Hamilton Commission, he suffered from a crippling conflict of interest. Because he has such close personal ties to Ms. Rice, who of course on her capacity as the head of the “National Security Council”, was 1 of the main people that he was going to “investigate”. Governor Kane of New Jersey, the former Congressman Lee Hamilton from Indiana, put in ceremonial appearances, did some public speeches on the subject, but the main work was done by a “Staff”, that was directed by Philip Zelikow.

Catastrophic Terrorism – by Philip Zelikow et alia Nov.-Dec. 1998


“Zelikow is not interested in discovering what’s going on.

As a reward for the job he did w/ the report, they put him on the President’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board / PFIAB, which is a group you don’t hear about very much. But is a very key link between what you might call the “White House” & the “Ruling Establishment of the United States”.

He is an example of the kind of “invisible government operative” who is part of the cover-up that will attempt to make sure that the “truth” about the “911 Terrorist Attacks” is never known, all the while eagerly calling for military action against Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, & other Arabs & Muslim States.”

References: :-o :-o :-o

Zelikow - 911 Commission Cover-Up – P1 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuoQZkBFj9A

Zelikow - 911 Commission Cover-Up – P2 - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XQWBQKsqBU

Death, Lies & Videotape - yT Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYI7JXGqd0o&mode=related&search=

Thank God for "Freedom Of Speech"... An “Informed Citizen” makes a good “Patriot.”
8-)

Jimbo
10-15-2007, 05:05 PM
The Militarization Of The American Police - ??? - :-o :-o :-o

The Militarization Of The American Police
Here it is. It is no longer a "conspiracy" it is the "real thing". The victims are anybody. Kids as little 5, 6, 12, or 13 years old. Male or female. Grand paps & moms. Anyone...

The Militarization Of The American Police - by Greg Evensen. August 13, 2006. (from www.newswithviews.com)

"As a former state police trooper, I can state emphatically, that I oppose the move away from local policing to a heavily armed “national” quasi-military police force policy.

"...a “show of force” to keep the natives in line. This is to soften up the American public in case they held thoughts of fending for themselves or decisively telling these servants that they weren’t needed, thank you. But then, a well armed citizenry doesn’t fit the UN model of a disarmed..." (populace).

"I simply do not understand the thinking of upper level criminal justice system directors who have not recently, if ever, read their US or state constitution. This is especially true in regard to the public’s right to privacy and self-protection. Issues regarding the 2nd amendment, due process, limited government, and how far we have strayed from the Founder’s beliefs abound."

"Suffice it to say that as a nation, we have stood by while the police forces of the USA have become a force that projects intimidation, fear from the community, and a reputation for excessive force. Regardless of the needed response, it makes even routine contact with the public a major ordeal."

"If many Americans like a militarized police state future they may well get it. For me, that is not acceptable. I choose to work toward my destiny and that of a free America within the constitution, for sure. I prefer an American future without the unconstitutional agencies, laws, judge’s rulings, and decrees from many treasonous bureaucrats. We don’t need threats and intimidation from goons masquerading as local and state lawmakers or brain-washed, gun-toting morons like the New Orleans Chief of Police."

"The time is coming fast, when millions of Americans who understand what this colossal struggle is all about in the United States and around the world, have severe choices that will be required to be made. The UN will not simply allow the US to continue[/b] as a sovereign nation when the rest of the world is [u]under its domination. That is not paranoia. That is simply the deduction one gets from understanding the UN’s published plans. Your future actions will determine whether you will go to the re-education camp, or the internment camp for “troublemakers” (read that constitution supporters)."
http://www.newswithviews.com/Evensen/greg.htm

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8-)

BlueAngel
10-15-2007, 05:51 PM
Excerpt from above post:

"The time is coming fast, when millions of Americans who understand what this colossal struggle is all about in the United States and around the world, have severe choices that will be required to be made. The UN will not simply allow the US to continue[/b] as a sovereign nation when the rest of the world is [u]under its domination. That is not paranoia. That is simply the deduction one gets from understanding the UN’s published plans. Your future actions will determine whether you will go to the re-education camp, or the internment camp for “troublemakers” (read that constitution supporters)."
http://www.newswithviews.com/Evensen/greg.htm

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We will all be PARDONED for our past actions and escape a re-education camp, or the internment camp for "troublemakers", if we cease and desist heretofore?

redrat11
10-15-2007, 08:51 PM
Jimbo wrote:
The Militarization Of The American Police - ??? - :-o :-o :-o

The Militarization Of The American Police
Here it is. It is no longer a "conspiracy" it is the "real thing". The victims are anybody. Kids as little 5, 6, 12, or 13 years old. Male or female. Grand paps & moms. Anyone...

The Militarization Of The American Police - by Greg Evensen. August 13, 2006. (from www.newswithviews.com)

"As a former state police trooper, I can state emphatically, that I oppose the move away from local policing to a heavily armed “national” quasi-military police force policy.

"...a “show of force” to keep the natives in line. This is to soften up the American public in case they held thoughts of fending for themselves or decisively telling these servants that they weren’t needed, thank you. But then, a well armed citizenry doesn’t fit the UN model of a disarmed..." (populace).

"I simply do not understand the thinking of upper level criminal justice system directors who have not recently, if ever, read their US or state constitution. This is especially true in regard to the public’s right to privacy and self-protection. Issues regarding the 2nd amendment, due process, limited government, and how far we have strayed from the Founder’s beliefs abound."

"Suffice it to say that as a nation, we have stood by while the police forces of the USA have become a force that projects intimidation, fear from the community, and a reputation for excessive force. Regardless of the needed response, it makes even routine contact with the public a major ordeal."

"If many Americans like a militarized police state future they may well get it. For me, that is not acceptable. I choose to work toward my destiny and that of a free America within the constitution, for sure. I prefer an American future without the unconstitutional agencies, laws, judge’s rulings, and decrees from many treasonous bureaucrats. We don’t need threats and intimidation from goons masquerading as local and state lawmakers or brain-washed, gun-toting morons like the New Orleans Chief of Police."

"The time is coming fast, when millions of Americans who understand what this colossal struggle is all about in the United States and around the world, have severe choices that will be required to be made. The UN will not simply allow the US to continue[/b] as a sovereign nation when the rest of the world is [u]under its domination. That is not paranoia. That is simply the deduction one gets from understanding the UN’s published plans. Your future actions will determine whether you will go to the re-education camp, or the internment camp for “troublemakers” (read that constitution supporters)."
http://www.newswithviews.com/Evensen/greg.htm

Thank God for "Freedom Of Speech"... An “Informed Citizen” makes a good “Patriot.”
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Oh My G-D....


Just when you think it could'nt get worser, I just read that BLACKWATER has been training American Police Departments for a while now, secretly that is.. :-?

story below...

Blackwater training police in American cities and towns

The mercenary firm Blackwater USA is well known for the controversy involving its "shoot first, ask no questions" policy in Iraq. It is also known that Louisiana's Department of Homeland Security contracted with Blackwater to provide public law enforcement services in New Orleans following hurricane Katrina. Blackwater is also planning to establish regional training centers in Potrero, California and Mount Carroll, Illinois, billed as Blackwater West and Blackwater North, respectively.

These training centers, in addition to Blackwater's Lodge and Training Center in Moyock, North Carolina -- Blackwater East -- and a possible fourth rumored to be slated for the Pacific Northwest -- Blackwater Northwest -- may result in the establishment of a network of Blackwater-trained police, sheriffs, and other police units around the country. Given Blackwater's dismal record on human rights and brutality, this spells trouble for civilian control of police and paramilitary forces in the United States, from major metropolitan areas to small rural towns.

On October 14, the Washington Post ran a story, which included photographs from Blackwater's Moyock training center. However, what was most intriguing was a photograph of a police and military patch board at Blackwater's headquarters that indicated the police agencies that have sent their officers to Moyock for training.

Blackwater is secretive about its non-federal, as well as its foreign clients, which the Post pointed out includes Jordan, Azerbaijan, and Burkina Faso, but a WMR inspection of the photograph of the police agencies has yielded the following list of agencies that have used Blackwater for training:

1. Iowa Department of Natural Resources

2. Maricopa County, Arizona Sheriff's Department

3. Matthews, North Carolina Police

4. Atlanta Police

5. Chillicothe, Ohio Police

6. Charleston, South Carolina Police

7. Port Chester, NY Police

8. Highland, Indiana Police

9. Unalaska, Alaska Police

10. Metropolitan Washington, DC Police

11. Charlottesville, Virginia Police

12. Metropolitan Washington Airports Authority (Dulles and Reagan National Airports)

13. St. Louis County Police (Missouri)

14. Queen Anne's County, Maryland Police

15. Prince George's County, Maryland Police

16. FBI SWAT Team

17. Gloucester Township, New Jersey Police

18. Tempe, Arizona Police

19. New York Police Department

20. Yonkers, New York Police

21. Fairfax County, Virginia Police

22. Maplewood, New Jersey Police

23. Gastonia, North Carolina Police

24. Tampa Police

25. U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA)

26. DeKalb County, Georgia Police

27. Arlington County, Virginia Police

28. Baltimore Police

29. U.S. Coast Guard

30. Suffolk, Virginia Police

31. Franklin City, Virginia Police

32. Milford, Delaware Police

33. University of Texas Police

34. Norfolk, Virginia Police

35. Ottawa-Carleton, Canada Police

36. San Bernardino County, California Sheriff

37. Plattsburgh, New York Police

38. Chicago Police Department

39. Oregon State Police

40. Los Angeles Police Department

41. Tonawanda, New York Police

42. Special Forces of Colombia

43. Jacksonville, North Carolina Police

44. Harvey Cedars, New Jersey Police

45. Elmira, New York Police

46. Department of Corrections, New Jersey

47. Lexington, Kentucky Police

48. Willimantic, Connecticut Police

49. Georgia Department of Law Enforcement

50. City of Fairfax, Virginia Police

51. Alexandria, Virginia Police Special Operations

52. Illinois State Police

53. Dallas, Texas Police

54. Hamilton, Ohio Police

55. Morganton, North Carolina Police

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A number of the police departments that have been trained by Blackwater have abysmal civil rights and police brutality records, most notably the Chicago Police and Illinois State Police, both cited by former Illinois Governor George Ryan as being guilty of police misconduct in his decision to commute the death sentences of Illinois' death row inmates. It was a decision that likely had much to do with his indictment by the Bush administration on corruption charges -- political misuse of the Department of Justice that has been seen in the indictments and investigations of Alabama former Democratic Governor Don Siegelman and HealthSouth former CEO Richard Scrushy, Qwest's former CEO Joseph Nacchio, Democratic campaign contributor Martha Stewart, Coastal Corporation' s former Chairman and Democratic contributor Oscar Wyatt, and Democratic-leaning trial attorneys around the United States, as well as the firings of several U.S. Attorneys who refused to engage in political
prosecutions, and a Justice Department workup on North Carolina presidential candidate John Edwards in 2004.

The training and potential political indoctrination of police officers by the extreme right-wing and proto-fascist Blackwater, coupled with the politicization of the Justice Department and U.S. courts, has the potential for the streets of Chicago, Dallas, Los Angeles, Atlanta, New York, and Washington, DC, as well as Chillicothe, Harvey Cedars, and Elmira to turn as bloody as the streets of Baghdad and Fallujah.

Citizens have a distinct opportunity of confronting their local elected city, county, and town officials over Blackwater training of their police officers. Local officials should be pressured to reveal the numbers and identities of officers trained by Blackwater, the subjects covered by the training, the revenues spent, and a public demand should be made to cease and desist in such training.

[link to www.waynemadsenreport.com]

BlueAngel
10-15-2007, 09:03 PM
Why would you think it couldn't get any worse?

Is what we're experiencing now the end-result you think they have in mind?

I know you know better than that.

You disappoint me.

Do I have to school you in the future plans of the NWO?

Jimbo
10-16-2007, 08:51 AM
(Classified) Bill Will Defend Against Flesh-Eating (Classified) - HR 8791 - ??? - :-o :-o :-o

”Classified” HR 8791 - The Homeland Terrorism Preparedness Bill
(Classified) Bill Will Defend Against Flesh-Eating (Classified) - HR 8791
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=19926896

Just When You Thought, "It Couldn’t Get Any Worse ???"

Video Transcript:
Congress shall now vote for approval of HR 8791, “The Homeland Terrorism Preparedness Bill”. Said bill requests emergency response funding up to and including,… I’m sorry this section is (classified), a… dollars to prepare for an (???) level terrorist attack and or attack from… (classified). Funding from first responding personnel and vehicles will be doubled if said attack leads to more than 80% (percent) of national population being affected by… (classified). This funding shall commence in conjunction with the first attack on… ahm… (classified) or the first large scale outbreak of (classified), dependent upon which comes first. Civilian and military units shall be trained in containment and combat of,… (classified) including irradiated… (classified) with possibility of (classified)… airborne (classified) flesh eating (classified) and or all of the above in such event as (classified) spewing (classified) escape are released or otherwise become uncontrollable. Airforce units may also be directed to combat said (classified) due to their enormous size and other worldly strength. Should event occur in urban areas, … (pause) Jesus,…that’s (classified) far surpassing our darkest nightmares. Should casualties exceed (classified) body disposal, actions shall be (halted ???) and associated resources shall be reallocated through (classified) underground (classified) protected (burning ???) centers. A new Bill Of Rights shall be drafted and approved by (classified). Having now reviewed the bill I ask you to please cast your votes.

Thank God for "Freedom Of Speech"... An “Informed Citizen” makes a good “Patriot.”
8-)

Jimbo
10-16-2007, 08:59 PM
Video on Bill HR 8791 – A HOAX ??? - :-o :-o :-o

According to the www.rense.com site, this “video” is a HOAX.
Video on Bill HR 8791 – A HOAX

No wonder I couldn’t find anything on this particular bill. No on the Internet, not on the government bill’s site.

Thank God for "Freedom Of Speech"... An “Informed Citizen” makes a good “Patriot.”
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BlueAngel
10-16-2007, 09:48 PM
Where did this come from?

Congress shall now vote for approval of HR 8791, “The Homeland Terrorism Preparedness Bill”. Said bill requests emergency response funding up to and including,… I’m sorry this section is (classified), a… dollars to prepare for an (???) level terrorist attack and or attack from… (classified). Funding from first responding personnel and vehicles will be doubled if said attack leads to more than 80% (percent) of national population being affected by… (classified). This funding shall commence in conjunction with the first attack on… ahm… (classified) or the first large scale outbreak of (classified), dependent upon which comes first. Civilian and military units shall be trained in containment and combat of,… (classified) including irradiated… (classified) with possibility of (classified)… airborne (classified) flesh eating (classified) and or all of the above in such event as (classified) spewing (classified) escape are released or otherwise become uncontrollable. Airforce units may also be directed to combat said (classified) due to their enormous size and other worldly strength. Should event occur in urban areas, … (pause) Jesus,…that’s (classified) far surpassing our darkest nightmares. Should casualties exceed (classified) body disposal, actions shall be (halted ???) and associated resources shall be reallocated through (classified) underground (classified) protected (burning ???) centers. A new Bill Of Rights shall be drafted and approved by (classified). Having now reviewed the bill I ask you to please cast your votes.

Jimbo
10-16-2007, 09:57 PM
I was so perturbed by the information presented that I decided to transcribe its contents. I could not understand all of the words, so where I was not certain, I displayed the ??? question marks.

BlueAngel
10-16-2007, 10:04 PM
Whew!

That was confusing.

First white space and then the video.

Does a Representative John Haller, (R) from Pennsylvania exist?

He is the person speaking at the podium in this video.

I couldn't find him.

Did you?

Jimbo
10-16-2007, 10:13 PM
I couldn’t find anything on a representative w/ that name. Typically, if the name does belong to either a senator or representative, you find stuff right away.

I don’t understand how can anyone spend so much time (money) & effort, to create such garbage, instead of spending that much time & effort in keeping our country free from demons & human-haters.

BlueAngel
10-16-2007, 10:27 PM
I assume they want to attempt to keep FOLKS like us DISTRACTED.

Chasing our tails, so to speak, instead of on their tails.

Jimbo
10-16-2007, 10:42 PM
Absolutely, & that’s how we spend millions, & perhaps billions distracting the masses, while the hidden agenda moves like a serpent in the night. Disinformation Spooks.

It’s got to be that there are humans & non-humans. Those who despise humanity, & hate people in general, can not be humans. They look human, but they are empty inside. They are nothing but an empty shell. No heart. Cold blooded. No feelings, but pain. That’s why they must enjoy when others hurt. That is the only thing they can actually feel & relate to. They are like vampires. They feed off from us. They take, & take, & suck us dry until we are dead. Then they go off unto their next victim. They are parasites. Worse, they are the “Venom” of humanity.

BlueAngel
10-16-2007, 11:04 PM
Yes, Jimbo. I'm well aware of the "bloodsuckers" who thrive on the pain they inflict on others.

Those who want to suck the life from another in order to feel powerful.

Sadistic pigs is the only way I can describe them.

It's the CONTROL aspect that feeds their ego because otherwise they are DEAD inside.

Most times, they had no control over their own lives, so, therefore, the vicious cycle of mind control continues.

They must exert power and control over others just the same as it was exerted over them.

It is the POWER over others that makes them feel alive.

Otherwise, they are empty shells.

Are they human?

Certainly, their physical appearance would lend one to believe so.

However, their psychological make-up renders them with characteristics unbecoming of a human being created in God's image.

BlueAngel
10-17-2007, 12:15 AM
Well, JIMBO, I don't know about the WE spend millions on disinformation.

I certainly don't.

Maybe YOU do.

I am of the opinion, however, that whomever produced this video of a "fictitious" house bill and the person who impersonated himself as a member of the United States Congress should face criminal proceedings.

If that isn't a crime, I don't know what is.