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heavensent
10-29-2005, 04:37 AM
Check out this site http://theprussianblueblog.blogspot.com/

Can you believe that the media supports this??
And after all the autrosities that places like Auschwitz faced? I mean really do these girls even know about history>? Or are they so souless that they just dont care?

madkhao
10-29-2005, 04:45 AM
they just want attention,
fifteen minutes of fame,
and some crack cash.
God bless them!

Shannow
10-29-2005, 04:50 AM
Read about them about 5 or 6 months ago.

brainwashed kids, selling to a brainwashed market.

Draken
10-29-2005, 09:08 AM
heavensent, what do you think you know about media, Nazism, Auschwitz and history?

After reading a few posts on this site it's going to be interesting to see your reaction when your illusions shatter.

Welcome! ;-)

LaDominio
10-29-2005, 10:24 AM
Heres another one. http://www.vanguardbod.blogspot.com/

These guys actually ARE Nazis.

truebeliever
10-29-2005, 11:39 AM
Well i guess it's better to be brainwashed by your own than the distant MSM.

How terrible that they have a view outside of the white bread mainstream.

Maybe they should be killed in case their point of view catches on?

Strangely, i personally love the multicultural'ism of Oz. However, why should'nt people have the right to a shared value system? Why is it 'we' must tolerate everyone elses view? Why cant these peoples 'view' be tolerated?

Thumper
10-29-2005, 11:49 AM
this will be used a pretext to regulate homeschooling, I can just see it.

And yet you don't see the media raising a fuss about Farrakhan saying that whites were made in a test tube by a mad scientist and other things espousing 'black supremacism.'

the best we can hope for is letting people live their own lives, and stop trying to regulate everyone's political view so they concur with eachother that we may bow down to the one world gubbmint. :-o

madkhao
10-29-2005, 01:00 PM
I work with a bunch of Germans who are teaching me to speak their language. To a group of about 10 I asked them, how do you say sorry? NONE of them knew! I said, 'you mean to tell me that Germans don't apologize?'

One woman said, "No, we don't."

"What a bunch of Nazi's," I said

Dead silence..gulp*

Draken
10-29-2005, 04:33 PM
I'm dead tired of talking about the "threat" and the "atrocities" committed by Nazism. When are we going to seriously address the Satanic crimes of Communism?

Nazism is dead - they lost the war. Communism on the other hand is alive and well - they WON the war but they never stopped there; the war continued and is presently raging all over the world. America is totally subverted by Communism. Should we not be addressing the global, physical, mental and spiritual threat of Communism?

Communism was and is still a Judaic/Zionist conspiracy. The Nazis decided to fight them on the Communists' terms and they fought not just for their own survival but for the survival of all Europe and the Germans - and Europe - LOST. Hence Europe's and all Western civilization's and the world's present, unprecedented degeneration, corruption and spiritual decay.

<a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1341941/posts">The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression</a> By Stephane Courtois, Mark Kramer (Translator), Jonathan Murphy (Translator), Karel Bartosek, Andrzej Paczkowski, Jean-Louis Panne, Jean-Louis Margolin (Contributors); Introduction to the U.S. edition by Martin Malia Published by Harvard University Press, 1999 Originally published in France, 1997

Reviewed by Claire Wolfe

Examining the photos and reading their captions in The Black Book of Communism, you might expect the surrounding 700+ pages to contain a wail of outrage. The photos, though few, are as graphic and heart-rending as the worst from Nazi Germany.

But the text is no impassioned partisan cry. It's something more powerful than that; it's the facts. The Black Book has been called a catalog, an indictment, a prosecutorial manual against Communist crimes. It is a simply a dispassionate account - article after article - of the history of Communist power. Beginning with Leninist terror policies and concluding with the starvation produced by Afrocommunism, the historians of The Black Book list the events, tally the numbers, describe the conditions, name the names.

Their conclusion:

* USSR: 20 million deaths * China: 65 million deaths * Vietnam: 1 million deaths * North Korea: 2 million deaths * Cambodia: 2 million deaths * Eastern Europe: 1 million deaths * Latin America: 150,000 deaths * Africa: 1.7 million deaths * Afghanistan: 1.5 million deaths * Communist movements or parties not in power: about 10,000 deaths

Nearly 100 million deaths. Not casualties of war, but civilian slaughter. Deaths in gulags and concentration camps. Deaths from a bullet to the head. Most of all, deaths by starvation - the result either of planned famines, meted out as punishment to internal foes (as in Stalin's USSR), or unintended consequences of central policy.

American historian R.J. Rummell has tallied similar figures in his book Death by Government. But The Black Book is different in that 1) it focuses on death and terror in Communist regimes only 2) many of its contributors were (or are still) members of the left and 3) this book touched off an international storm when it was first published in France.

The "crime" of revealing Communist crimes

Why would this scholarly book - with its "just the facts, Ma'm" approach and its extensively documented claims - ignite a firestorm?

Partly it is because many crimes of Communism have gone unexamined, due both to bias among the intelligentsia and lack of access to archives of Communist countries. As such, this book is a shock to those who haven't been paying attention.

Partly it is that in Europe, and France especially, it is still chic to identify oneself as a Communist or Socialist. This book is an embarrassment and a shame to those who have practiced "ideological self-deception."

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You want to play a numbers game? Fine:

100 million. And yes, they were mostly belivers in God; mainly Christians and Muslims.

I should add that the USSR figures are VERY conservative, cautious estimates. The real USSR figures are closer to 60 million.

Check out the <a href="http://www.clubconspiracy.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=993&forum=17&PHPSESSID=b7186cd5205293275fac6e93068b75cc">EU, A Monster</a> thread, watch the film <a href="http://www.clubconspiracy.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=1746&forum=3&PHPSESSID=b7186cd5205293275fac6e93068b75cc">The Bloody History of Communism</a>, read a thread about <a href="http://www.clubconspiracy.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=1720&forum=3&PHPSESSID=b7186cd5205293275fac6e93068b75cc">how the Allies treated German POWs AFTER the war</a>, not to mention the main thread on CC about Communism and who was and is behind it, <a href="http://www.clubconspiracy.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=545&forum=17&PHPSESSID=b7186cd5205293275fac6e93068b75cc">GULAG&Communism Still Operational</a>.

Barbara
10-29-2005, 09:11 PM
Draken and TB, bless your hearts and minds. Thank you both for being so informed and willing to share that information.

I cannot believe how supposedly intelligent individuals can remain so deluded in this "age of enlightenment." It just goes to show how effective is the brainwashing techniques being employed. No other race on the face of this earth hates itself like the white race. They have lost all their survival instincts.

When that happens they are not long for this world.

IF, and that's a big IF, they ever wake up from their beautiful dream there will be a new growth industry. They will wish to pay someone to kick their arses for being such fools and selling their own kids down the shitter for other races that hate their guts.

It's not about racism, you idiots, it's about finite space and finite resources. Wake up!

truebeliever
10-29-2005, 10:02 PM
Thanx for the encouragment BARBARA.

It is DRAKS specialty though, not mine. I am in fact a recent convert to the lies of the "holohoax" and the crimes of Communism.

I had always believed an element of war time propaganda in the facts but never could I have believed, until I studie closely, the level of OUTRIGHT deceit when it comes the WW2 history.

As for Communism their is the tendency to see it as an experiment gone wrong but meaning well when it is in fact one of the most evil ideas ever thrust on the human race.

Adolph Hitler must be rehabilitated on the FACTS and the FACTS alone. All wartime leaders must stand tall and accept the judgement of history. Hitler can no longer be used as a scapegoat.

I am still unsure of his place in history. The "facts" are so obscured that it's hard to get a clear view. I am willing to venture that he was truly dedicated to maintaining the culture and spiritual level of Europe as were his backers. He was then betrayed...both within and without - completely, when the people behind him realised he had a will of his own and a genuine national desire for Germany to be a "spiritual" light in a world of gathering darkness.

Post 1943 things degenerated into a Holocaust for ALL the innocents.

Genuine thanks DRAK for your insights and information.

igwt
10-29-2005, 10:09 PM
Today in the web-edition of one of our national newspapers, Dagbladet, you can read about how NeoNazis across Europe are using the Norwegian flag as a symbol in their propaganda/effect-ware. The Norwegian flag is used in conjunction with elements as the Norwegian national symbol, the lion, and city/county names like Tønsberg, Hammerfest, Narvik and Nordland. The clothes are signed by design company "Thor Steinar Uniforms," and they have become quite popular among European Neo Nazis.

http://www.student.uit.no/~paalde/nazismexposed/index.php

truebeliever
10-29-2005, 10:31 PM
I think the neo nazis are right up their with "soccer hooligans". A bunch of idiot parrots who cannot think for themselves, much like their "tolerent" extremist idots of the other side.

Just the facts ma'am.

Barbara
10-29-2005, 10:42 PM
Igwit, please stop going along with the propaganda and brainwashing by using the term NeoNazi. I am totally in TB's camp where the lies concerning WWl and WWll are concerned but so few have awakened to those lies that the term NeoNazi still carries a negative conotation.

Why can't it just be white people waking up to the fact that they have a proud heritage and wanting to show it? Every movement has it's flags so if they want to use the Norwegian flag, why not? If it resembles a Nazi flag, so what?

Why wasn't there this much shit in the air when the T-shirts crying Black is Beautiful, La Raza, Mexifornia(get used to it) and Kill Whitey were first out and being photographed?

I'm just thankful white people somewhere are waking up. Send me a catalog, I will support the manufacturer.

igwt
10-29-2005, 11:09 PM
Barbara wrote:
Igwit, please stop going along with the propaganda and brainwashing by using the term NeoNazi....

Firstly please don't call me an IGWIT. The nick is igwt. No need to be nasty

Thumper
10-29-2005, 11:38 PM
what's it stand for?

Shannow
10-29-2005, 11:51 PM
I took it as In God We Trust.

Thumper
10-29-2005, 11:54 PM
good one :-o

Khopesh
10-30-2005, 12:35 AM
In War, the winners always write the history.

If Germany had won the history of WW11 would be very different as would be everyday life nowdays, some would suggest for the better others for the worse.
Certainly we the great people of Oz whos forces incidently were the first to inflict defeats on the Axis powers Nth Africa and Imperial Japan in New Guinea would of course be speaking Japanese now, although many do anyway as it is a compulsry subject in most schools, eccept for Tasmanians who would be speaking German as Tasmania was to be the breeding ground of the new master race.

It always amazes me that we continually hear about the alleged 6 million jew killed by the Germans and not the gypsies, Polish cathlics or the 60 million killed by stalins communists.

Yes history is subjective, it all depends on whos writing it and thus the dictated conventional wisdom that follows.
Anyone with an open mind can easily see through lies and falicy, im proud to be white, does this make me racist?
If I choose a blond haired barby doll as a wife and mother to my future childeren, the resulting offspring being of much the same ilk, does this make me a racist?

In actual fact anyone who thinks they are not racist hasnt thought about it, rasicism - discrimination on a racial basis - is an everyday subconsiouse occurance.
It is natural for people to select their own racial group for relationship, company and general dealings, reading a book by its cover or better the devil you know or whatever you wish to call it has been an essential survival mechanism for ions.

You stuck with your own or you didnt survive tribe vs tribe.

To suddenly say in the last 50 years this isnt true anymore or a still a part of our psycie is a nonsense.

Anyone who subscribes to politically correct thinking is well and truely a conditioned tool of the new world order.

Enjoy your microchips!

psholtz
10-30-2005, 01:05 AM
Draken wrote:
I'm dead tired of talking about the "threat" and the "atrocities" committed by Nazism. When are we going to seriously address the Satanic crimes of Communism?
So far as you should be concerned, Naziism is the same identical thing as Communism. I know that Hitler wouldn't agree, but that's b/c facsism doesn't work unless you have a scapegoat to blame things on. Hitler started w/ the Communists in Germany. Only after he had murdered *all* of them, did he turn his wrath on the Jews..

Both Naziism and Communism are forms of state-sponsored collectivism, and that makes them both exceedingly evil.. (and exceedingly murderous).. Neither is exactly a Jefferson-ian Constitutional Republic, for crying out loud.. :-?

Barbara
10-30-2005, 01:15 AM
IGWT, my apologies for misspelling your "name." I have to type so fast to try to post that I'm sure I misspell other words, too. It has gotten harder and harder to post on this forum.

There was nothing implicit in the mistake. Obviously it caused you some amount of distress and for that I am truly sorry.

Trust me, if I want to insult someone it is usually not that subtle.

Draken
10-30-2005, 01:59 AM
igwt, I followed the links you provided about the Norwegian "Neo-Nazis" using the Norwegian flag and got to a page called "Nazism Exposed", where I could read:

"Now, there is no doubt that symbols and symbolism are important for the right extremist groups, but why do they always have to steal symbols from elsewhere? This is not something new, as they've stolen most of the symbols they are using from elsewhere. Even the main symbol of Nazi-Germany, the Swastika was stolen from somewhere else. Part of the answer is because they, very much like any other religion, want something to worship and relate to. Swastikas and Nordic runes also links them to their "herritage." This pose a problem for the true Odinist who doesn't share the Neo Nazis views."

Talk about not knowing your history!

The swastika is a universal symbol, used throughout the world since pre-history so it can't be "stolen" from anywhere or anyone since it's everywhere from Tibet to America.
There are swastikas on most Christian churches, does that mean Christians are White "Supremacists"?
I saw a swastika on a church facade yesterday, for crying out loud!

"This pose a problem for the true Odinist who doesn't share the Neo Nazis views."

That's New World Order humour. ;-)

igwt
10-30-2005, 01:57 AM
Draken wrote:
igwt, I followed the links you provided about the Norwegian "Neo-Nazis" using the Norwegian flag and got to a page called "Nazism Exposed", where I could read:

"Now, there is no doubt that symbols and symbolism are important for the right extremist groups, but why do they always have to steal symbols from elsewhere? This is not something new, as they've stolen most of the symbols they are using from elsewhere. Even the main symbol of Nazi-Germany, the Swastika was stolen from somewhere else. Part of the answer is because they, very much like any other religion, want something to worship and relate to. Swastikas and Nordic runes also links them to their "herritage." This pose a problem for the true Odinist who doesn't share the Neo Nazis views."

Talk about not knowing your history!

The swastika is a universal symbol, used throughout the world since pre-history so it can't be "stolen" from anywhere or anyone since it's everywhere from Tibet to America.
There are swastikas on most Christian churches, does that mean Christians are White "Supremacists"?
I saw a swastika on a church facade yesterday, for crying out loud!

"This pose a problem for the true Odinist who doesn't share the Neo Nazis views."

That's New World Order humour. ;-)

What's interesting is that the swastika was 'borrowed' from the Buddists, and reversed! Solar Cross or something like that..

@ Barbara, misunderstandings all round I think ;-)

Draken
10-30-2005, 03:02 AM
igwt, I will have to prove you wrong.

<a href="http://www.omniglot.com/writing/vinca.htm">Old European / Vinča</a>

Origin

These symbols have been found on many of the artefacts excavated from sites in south-east Europe, in particular from Vinča near Belgrade, but also in Greece, Bulgaria, Romania, eastern Hungary, Moldova, southern Ukraine and the former Yugoslavia. The artefacts date from between the 7th and 4th millennia BC and those decorated with these symbols are between 8,000 and 6,500 years old.

Some scholars believe that the Vinča symbols represent the earliest form of writing ever found, predating ancient Egyptian and Sumerian writing by thousands of years. Since the inscriptions are all short and appear on objects found in burial sites, and the language represented is not known, it is highly unlikely they will ever be deciphered.
Symbols dating from the oldest period of Vinča culture (6th-5th millennia BC)
http://www.omniglot.com/images/writing/vinca1.gif

Common symbols used throughout the Vinča period
http://www.omniglot.com/images/writing/vinca2.gif

These symbols predate Buddhism by thousands of years.

These symbols existed in Europe long before Buddhism and therefore can't have been "borrowed", "stolen", "usurped" by Nazis from the East because they already existed in the West.

There's your reverse swastika, solar crosses of many versions, crosses of all types, even the symbol of the Luftwaffe is there.

In conclusion, the Nazis did not steal any symbol. They used a symbol that existed in pre-Christian Europe, but in fact, like I said, the swastika really is a universal symbol for the sun, used by American Indians as well as Buddhists, Eastern shamanic cultures and Ancient Aryan/Nordic pre-Christian cultures.

(Unforunately the images that were meant to be uploaded in this post for some reason won't upload, so you'll have to follow the link provided in the beginning of this post.)

igwt
10-30-2005, 03:40 AM
Draken

Do you mean originates from Druid or Norse religion?

Here is some info I have read on the internet.

The History of the Swastika
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The swastika is an extremely powerful symbol. Though the Nazis used it to murder millions of people, for centuries it had positive meanings. What is the history of the swastika? Does it now represent good or evil?

The Oldest Known Symbol

The swastika is an ancient symbol that has been used for over 3,000 years. (That even predates the ancient Egyptian symbol, the Ankh!) Artifacts such as pottery and coins from ancient Troy show that the swastika was a commonly used symbol as far back as 1000 BCE.

During the following thousand years, the image of the swastika was used by many cultures around the world, including in China, Japan, India, and southern Europe. By the Middle Ages, the swastika was a well known, if not commonly used, symbol but was called by many different names:

* China - wan
* England - fylfot
* Germany - Hakenkreuz
* Greece - tetraskelion and gammadion
* India - swastika

Full Article Here (http://history1900s.about.com/cs/swastika/a/swastikahistory.htm)

Draken
10-30-2005, 04:30 AM
No, I don't mean it originated from Druid or Norse religion. I mean it's a UNIVERSAL symbol that has been present in ancient, Traditional superconsciousness and it represents metaphysical realities impossible to percieve or communicate through the five senses that perceive material, three-dimensional, earthly reality.

Obviously, the origin of this and many other ancient symbols are impossible to determine, but their worldwide spread and usage since, as it were, the "beginning of time" proves that it's not an invention of any specific modern nor ancient peoples.

The seeming power of the swastika, and the cross for that matter (since the swastika is in fact a type of cross), as symbol is the reason for the present rulers of the world, i.e. Zionist-Kabbalists to want to outlaw its use, because according to their understanding it counters the Masonic/Kabbalist symbolism.

On a related note, nobody calls the Star of David a symbol of Jewish supremacism or a powerful symbol but it is. The "Star of David" isn't a typically "Jewish" symbol either. It's equally universal and widespread as the swastika. I don't see anyone challenge the use of the "Star of David" anywhere!

In fact the only reason I can see for most knowledgeable, intelligent people not to challenge the "Star of David" is twofold:

1. Fear
2. Turncoats

As a matter of fact, the only two symbols that were not prohibited in Nazi Germany was the swastika and... the Zionist Star of David.

The reason everyone today is so quick to condemn and stigmatize the swastika and the use of it is that it's SAFE to do it, because Nazi Germany LOST the war and pose NO THREAT anymore.

Zionist Israel on the other hand - need I even continue? - is VERY MUCH a threat today, and is VERY powerful, so therefore nobody has the balls to question the use of the symbol of "Star of David"!

What about the "Star of David" used as American sheriff's badges?


What about the use throughout society of the five-pointed (red) star?
That is also an ancient universal symbol, but today it's used by Freemasonry, Kabbalists and Communists. Should we not question all massive corporations using the five-pointed star on their products, like Heineken, MTV and MANY more?
What about the use of the five-pointed star on national and international flags, like the flags of the U.S., EU, UN, etc., etc,?

The mind, soul, heart and spirit of man responds to symbols, not words. Therefore the world is ruled by symbols and it follows that if you're in possession of knowledge about symbols and can put them to use you can mobilize the masses. Question is would you use the power of symbolism for Good or for Evil?

Which is the greater evil: Nazism or Communism?

WHICH CAME FIRST?

How are symbols used today?

Who today has the knowledge to use symbols?

Khopesh
10-30-2005, 07:15 AM
Yeah the swastika was being used by occult groups like the Vriel society and the society of the Black Sun that abounded in Vienna in the 20s, they were offshoots of the Knights Templar and utilised some of their hidden knowledge.
Hitlar and most of his top general were members of these groups and held regular channeling sessions.

Just been reading up about Prussian Blue, haha cool.
Give em a few footie seasons and their going to be preety hot, good value even if its nothing more than putting a cat among the pigeons.

I find it funny that even people who frequent this site and supposedly openminded still hold onto the anti white conditioning they have been constantly bombarded with over the years.
Negativity breeds negativity and theres nothing wrong with being proud of your own.

My regular daydreaming always seems to involve coming home to a blond, blue eyed, white skinned princess and a cold beer, and somehow I doubt if that will ever change.

Barbara
10-30-2005, 08:18 AM
Oooh, Kopesh, your post touched my heart! Without further ado let us both agree together right now that 'your daydream will come true when the coming year is still new.' (Has to rhyme)

You know what the NT says about "When two or more agree as touching anything, it shall be done unto you." (close enough, anyway)

That gives you 3-4 months to prepare!

Keep plenty of beer on hand. 8-)