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Shannow
11-01-2005, 06:36 PM
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,17114978%255E12377,00.html

Terror threat identified, says PM

November 02, 2005
Australian intelligence authorities have received specific information about a terrorist threat in Australia, according to Prime Minister John Howard.

Speaking in Canberra, Mr Howard said, "The Government has received specific intelligence and police information this week which gives cause for serious concern about a potential terrorist threat.

As a result Mr Howard said part of the new anti-terror laws would be introduced to parliament today.

He said the Senate would also be recalled tomorrow to debate the bill.

Mr Howard said the government would rush its tough new anti-terrorism legislation through the House of Representatives tonight and the Senate would be recalled tomorrow to ensure it becomes law as soon as possible.

After question time today, the attorney-general will introduce into the House an urgent amendment to the existing counter terrorism legislation," he said.

We will seek passage of that amendment through all stages this evening.

The president of the Senate will recall the Senate to meet tomorrow afternoon at 2pm and it's the Government's wish that this amendment be passed into law as soon as possible."

(more to come)

truebeliever
11-01-2005, 06:48 PM
I am going to be sick.

It is like watching someone rifle through rubbish bins for cigarette butts.

That this twerp could sink to this? I can just imagine ASIO and F.P spokespeople running for the exits not wishing to have to be caught up in explaining this tripe.

"Winston" will most definately earn his place in history. Along with that Fat Fuck Fabian Socialist Beasley.

We are witnessing NEW levels of pathetic "grasping". One thought the "Kiddie Overboard" drama was fairly close to the barrel bottom.

Reminds me of LBJ when questioned on the Gulf Of Tonkin and in a corner. In desperation, and much to the dissapointment of his minders (who now had to make up the extstravagant lies to back up the lies...)

"Our boys are in the water"!

Along with the truth, well and truly overboard and beyond saving.

11-01-2005, 06:49 PM
truebeliever wrote:
I am going to be sick.

It is like watching someone rifle through rubbish bins for cigarette butts.

That this twerp could sink to this? I can just imagine ASIO and F.P spokespeople running for the exits not wishing to have to be caught up in explaining this tripe.

"Winston" will most definately earn his place in history. Along with that Fat Fuck Fabian Socialist Beasley.

We are witnessing NEW levels of pathetic "grasping". One thought the "Kiddie Overboard" drama was fairly close to the barrel bottom.

Reminds me of LBJ when questioned on the Gulf Of Tonkin and in a corner. In desperation, and much to the dissapointment of his minders (who now had to make up the extstravagant lies to back up the lies...)

"Our boys are in the water"!

Along with the truth, well and truly overboard and beyond saving.

What's wrong with digging for cigarette butts?

truebeliever
11-01-2005, 06:51 PM
SHANNOW:

A little ray of hope hit me a couple of days ago.

A guy who writes the speeches for the Premieres Office was at my house. He was renting a place to my sister. I could'nt believe my luck.

I mentioned 9-11 etc in my best "casual drop" tone and off he went. I have provided him with some info. He was grateful and willing to look at it. Working for the government, he does'nt trust it either.

There are thousands like him. Just waiting for the little push over the edge.

Saturnino
11-01-2005, 06:54 PM
I just ordered Codex Magica from Texe Marrs, the new book where he shows the elite doing their stupid occultist signs. Maybe after seeing this people will climb down the fence. Even those who were very skeptic are now wondering why so many hurricanes in a single year.

jason_ou812
11-01-2005, 07:03 PM
What a bunch of absolute bullshit.

There is a similar story in the SMH at
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/specific-terror-threat-against-australia-pm/2005/11/02/1130823250648.html

A 'specific threat', which cannot be elaborated on, coming at just the right time to speed up introduction of a massively unpopular (among the people, don't believe the propoganda) piece of legislation, just when there looked like there may some sense of caution among the politicians.

A 'specific threat' so bad that the idiot prime minister wants to get it railroaded through both houses of parliament in 2 days, yet not so bad that it 'would require a change in the general terror threat level for Australia'.

This whole thing stinks to high heaven. The report (in the SMH) states that

However, Mr Howard said Australians should know all was being done to protect their safety.

Again, what a bunch of toal, absolute and utter crap. I'm so angry about this I want to hit someone (and I am a Christian opposed to war and violence). His hubris, and the almost bind-bending apathy of the bulk of the Australian public on what this legislation actually mean, is staggering.

Aaaaaahhhhhhhh!

truebeliever
11-01-2005, 07:07 PM
I dont think it's hubris. I think it's sheer desperation. Hence my reference to digging for cigarette butts.

It's quite pathetic.

Watching Beasley tag along on this subject demanding the Labor back bench "back it" and watching the Labor back bench stick their fingers to Beasley was a pleasure.

Some one got a photo of Beasley with a bunch of little boys a while back. I'm sure of it. Probably eating lasange and chips off them. The guy makes me sick...second only to that Rhodes Scholar stooge Hawke.

jason_ou812
11-01-2005, 07:17 PM
TB,

Pathetic it may be, but I'll wager that this little stunt will work, and he'll get his laws passed.

I'm ashamed to think my fellow citizens voted for this mongrel. What ridiculously short memories! Tampa, GST, gun laws, interest rates. It makes me sick. And we're in for 2 more years of this!

I know a way to foil his plans, of course. Get the whole state of NSW or WA, all at once, to call for the government to be sacked, or suggest that Iraqis fight back for their own sovereignty, or some other 'seditious' claim. I'd like to see us all locked up simultaneously.

Again, aaaaaahhhhhhhh!

truebeliever
11-01-2005, 07:44 PM
If it gets passed then i will move from "metaphorically" sick to "actually" sick.

The amazing thing with all this is that Howard believes he can say this ridiculous statement and not have the media collectively laugh in his face. That an attack is imminent, and only knew laws will stop it which means they have suspects and a great deal of intelligence...but they cannot act on it?

They can pull me over for a licence check and demand to search the car on a whim but they cant stop the "Imminent Attack" on liberal Australia?

They have just forked out a huge sum to a Muslim man who's house they raided, apparently by mistake. They are embarrassed and need a distraction.

As an example...they have intelligence that a group of people are going to rob a bank. The coppers come and tell us that they are helpless and need knew laws to stop the bank robbers... We would collectively laugh in their face and ask what drugs they were taking.

But this is EXACTLY what is happening!

"Terrorism" is simply a crime, like ANY other crime. To counter it, you gather intelligence, tap communications, surveille and prepare to arrest the suspects. Present this evidence to a court.

It's really quite simple.

The continual claim that they cannot do this shows that Howard is in DEEP on this scam and is not simply a useful idiot. That high level F.P and ASIO go along with a straight face shows they are compromised and are indeed traitors by any definition to this country.

I have the feeling Howard will lose on this subject. We should not smile. The Globalists need the Oz public under control with a draconian police state before they move on over to suck us dry. That will mean a contrived terror attack on the scale of the London Bombings.

New York will no longer be the Tactical center of operations for the Globalists...The Strategic center will remain in the U.K. with a regional office in Jerusalem.

Shannow
11-01-2005, 10:54 PM
truebeliever wrote:
SHANNOW:

A little ray of hope hit me a couple of days ago.

A guy who writes the speeches for the Premieres Office was at my house. He was renting a place to my sister. I could'nt believe my luck.

I mentioned 9-11 etc in my best "casual drop" tone and off he went. I have provided him with some info. He was grateful and willing to look at it. Working for the government, he does'nt trust it either.

There are thousands like him. Just waiting for the little push over the edge.

I so hope that you are right.

There's a small group of people at work who have voluntarily taken the red pill...one wishes he was back in dreamland.

As to where we are with terror.

If there's a real threat, here and now, and they can't tell us what and where for whatever reason, then we should all be on RED.

11-02-2005, 12:11 AM
Do you guys think they'll give OZ a friendly and helpful terrorist color code system like here in the states?

1. Red - Really, really scary time.

2. Blue - Still kinda scary.

3. Yellow - Well, you should still think about being scared.

4. Green - It's not really all that scary, but you should take prozac anyway.

5. Pink - Chinese communists will invade.

6. Grey - Aliens will invade.

Dept. of Homeland Scariness (http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/display?theme=29)

Shannow
11-02-2005, 12:53 AM
LOL,
we are to be "Alert, but not alarmed" at the threat of terror down here...all the while we are constantly reminded of the terrorist threat, bird flu, terrorist threat, bird flu etc. etc.

We've therefore only got 4 rankings, and there's no grey (yet).

Shannow
11-02-2005, 01:01 AM
hehe...the evening news announced that the "share market was rocked" by the P.Ms terror warning.

I would have thought that the serious investors would have been rocked a few days ago.

Shannow
11-02-2005, 03:24 PM
Howard warns of new terror threat (http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/11/02/australia.terror/)
SYDNEY, Australia (CNN) -- Australian Prime Minister John Howard warned Wednesday that he had received intelligence information about a specific terror threat to his country, though he refused to divulge details of the threat, citing security concerns.

At a nationally televised news conference in the capital of Canberra, Howard said releasing details of the threat would compromise security concerns.

"You will understand that there are sensitive operational matters and I cannot and will not go into further detail," he said.

"I don't want to overstate the situation, but I don't want to understate it," he added.

"I can't go into any more detail because if I do I might weaken the capacity of authorities to respond."

The Associated Press reported that Howard later Wednesday introduced an amendment to counterterrorism laws in the House of Representatives, in a bid to boost intelligence agencies' powers.

Australia's upper house of parliament, the Senate, which the government also controls, will be recalled Thursday to vote on the amendment.

The government is seeking urgent passage of the legislation, which has raised concerns over its "preventative detention" provisions and restrictions on freedom of expression.

After initially supporting the legislation, state premiers and some opposition members have expressed anxiety over the proposed laws, citing civil liberties concerns.

Howard's proposed amendment raised similar concern on Wednesday. (Full story)

Howard said he had received advice that the amendment, which is part of a larger package of anti-terror legislation, would improve the "operational capabilities" of security forces to combat the latest threat.

The terror warning also comes a day after Australia's leading spy agency, the Australian Security Intelligence Organization (ASIO), publicly warned of what it said was the extent of the "home-grown" Islamic threat.

In it's annual report, ASIO says there are an estimated 700-800 Muslims who have expressed support for politically motivated violence.

Australia "has been of interest to terrorists every year for the last six years," the report says.

Australia has not had a terrorist attack on its soil but it is believed to be a target because of Canberra's steadfast support for the Bush administration in the United States and its sending of troops to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The Australian embassy in Jakarta, Indonesia, was the target of a suicide bombing in September last year. Additionally, 88 Australians were killed in the Bali nightclub bombings in 2002.

Australia not under imminent threat of attack - Clark (http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3465286a10,00.html)

The Government was not given advance notice of the announcement about a possible terrorist threat to Australia, a spokesman for Prime Minister Helen Clark said last night.


"We heard through news reports that John Howard had made the statement," the spokesman told NZPA.

"At that point New Zealand officials contacted their Australian counterparts."

Mr Howard said in his announcement in Canberra that Australia had received "specific information" which raised serious concerns about a potential terrorist threat.

"I don't want to over-alarm people. I have said for a long time the possibility of an attack is there," he said.

Miss Clark said through the spokesman she could not disclose details of the information provided to the Government since the announcement was made.

"Australian officials have confirmed that there is no imminent threat of terrorist attacks in Australia," she said.

"We have also been advised that the Australian general threat level has not been raised. It remains at medium. A terrorist attack is assessed as feasible and could well occur."


I'm starting to think it's time to move to Kiwiland

Insider
11-02-2005, 03:47 PM
Too many rich Americans there.

truebeliever
11-02-2005, 06:17 PM
I seriously have a degree of moisture building in my eyes though they are NOT tears of laughter at Howards latest.

The desperation of this man is embarrassing me to the point of tears.

It is so pathetic. Just so, so, so pathetic.

This has got to be the end of any shred of credibility that Howard has had hidden up his arse.

There simply cannot be any more. The list of stuff ups and lies has been endless. With no credible opposition the "Liberal" party will stay in power all be it with Costello.

People should not bag Costello so completely. He may be the grinning Cheshire Cat but he would never lower himself to this level.

You were always a pathetic, whining establishment boy Howard...and you still are.

I wish I had a time machine. I would go back to your high school years and beat you to a pulp and strongly suggest you stick to Law where you can lie every day to your hearts content with little public over sight.

Insider
11-02-2005, 06:54 PM
Hey, truebeliever while you are back there, how about doing something about GWBush. Thanks.

11-02-2005, 07:07 PM
Shannow wrote:
Howard warns of new terror threat (http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/11/02/australia.terror/)
SYDNEY, Australia (CNN) -- Australian Prime Minister John Howard warned Wednesday that he had received intelligence information about a specific terror threat to his country, though he refused to divulge details of the threat, citing security concerns.

At a nationally televised news conference in the capital of Canberra, Howard said releasing details of the threat would compromise security concerns.

"You will understand that there are sensitive operational matters and I cannot and will not go into further detail," he said.

"I don't want to overstate the situation, but I don't want to understate it," he added.

"I can't go into any more detail because if I do I might weaken the capacity of authorities to respond."

The Associated Press reported that Howard later Wednesday introduced an amendment to counterterrorism laws in the House of Representatives, in a bid to boost intelligence agencies' powers.

Australia's upper house of parliament, the Senate, which the government also controls, will be recalled Thursday to vote on the amendment.

The government is seeking urgent passage of the legislation, which has raised concerns over its "preventative detention" provisions and restrictions on freedom of expression.

After initially supporting the legislation, state premiers and some opposition members have expressed anxiety over the proposed laws, citing civil liberties concerns.

Howard's proposed amendment raised similar concern on Wednesday. (Full story)

Howard said he had received advice that the amendment, which is part of a larger package of anti-terror legislation, would improve the "operational capabilities" of security forces to combat the latest threat.

The terror warning also comes a day after Australia's leading spy agency, the Australian Security Intelligence Organization (ASIO), publicly warned of what it said was the extent of the "home-grown" Islamic threat.

In it's annual report, ASIO says there are an estimated 700-800 Muslims who have expressed support for politically motivated violence.

Australia "has been of interest to terrorists every year for the last six years," the report says.

Australia has not had a terrorist attack on its soil but it is believed to be a target because of Canberra's steadfast support for the Bush administration in the United States and its sending of troops to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The Australian embassy in Jakarta, Indonesia, was the target of a suicide bombing in September last year. Additionally, 88 Australians were killed in the Bali nightclub bombings in 2002.

Australia not under imminent threat of attack - Clark (http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3465286a10,00.html)

The Government was not given advance notice of the announcement about a possible terrorist threat to Australia, a spokesman for Prime Minister Helen Clark said last night.


"We heard through news reports that John Howard had made the statement," the spokesman told NZPA.

"At that point New Zealand officials contacted their Australian counterparts."

Mr Howard said in his announcement in Canberra that Australia had received "specific information" which raised serious concerns about a potential terrorist threat.

"I don't want to over-alarm people. I have said for a long time the possibility of an attack is there," he said.

Miss Clark said through the spokesman she could not disclose details of the information provided to the Government since the announcement was made.

"Australian officials have confirmed that there is no imminent threat of terrorist attacks in Australia," she said.

"We have also been advised that the Australian general threat level has not been raised. It remains at medium. A terrorist attack is assessed as feasible and could well occur."


I'm starting to think it's time to move to Kiwiland

Really? Can I come with you?

Even better, how about we trade places?

You and your family can live in America, and I'll move to OZ.

Insider
11-02-2005, 07:46 PM
Goog idea.

truebeliever
11-02-2005, 08:14 PM
Australia is not big enough for us both fraterman.

igwt
11-02-2005, 10:19 PM
truebeliever wrote:
Australia is not big enough for us both fraterman.

LOL :lol:

truebeliever
11-03-2005, 03:42 AM
It's just obscene.

Leader for the "Greens" screams that Howard is full of it.

The leader of the Democrats was "briefed" on the imminent terrorist threat. When she asked if arrests would be made after the legislation was passed she was told..."not nescessarily".

What an obscene insult to the Australian publics intelligence.

Howard then has the nerve to say to the press..."are you questioning the integrity of the the F.P and ASIO"?

YES!!!!!

Lord have mercy!

It's embarrising to watch.

Khopesh
11-03-2005, 05:22 AM
Wow awesome, arnt things suddenly getting interesting.

We are about to be attacked just like Iraq was within moments of completing a nuclear device and attack the west with NBC weapons!
YAY.

Its strange, little john has built a reputation for being a shrewd and effective political manipulator why I wonder the sudden lack of finesse.
I mean I thought they pulled off the Pt Arthur thing rather well.
Gold star for you John.
Ongoing and recent performance has however and increasingly of late been at best sporadic.
I suppose those that own John feel he is in breach of contract of late and not delivering desired services to the agreed timetable.
Penaltys for breach of contract are knowen to be severe.
I guess they are also uhappy with the rothschild happy clappy Fabianites Labour barely able to "seem" to offer a semblance of opposition which I guess is important for the overall illusion, and wow no supprise completly back young John to the hilt yet again.
Well I suppose its for our own good.
We obviously have no idea whats good for us and it is best left to those in ivory towers who certainly know what is best for us and we had better not interferre.

I wonder what the next stunt will be, and how many of us will have to die in the next problem reaction solution senario about to be played out to cause the justification and implementation off the next revised, speeded up paradigm which we will of course demand to be implimented.
Those of religiouse faith extreme or otherwise have little to fear the next target will be us.

However the worm will turn as it always does and the time will come when those who have sold us out will suffer the pointy edge of the sedition laws they themselves implemented.
If we hold to our passions with focus and wisdom.

One day id like to see the whole story and look back on what is happening now with clear vision, to search and know every motive/action and otherwise with absolute clarity, truth would no doubt be far more exciting than the wildest fantasy we are currently capeable of.

Mmmmmm we arre knowen to be the test case for what is to follow in the rest of the world and I suppose all the flutter is because we havent been playing the game.
Yippie, I guess were not that bad after all.

truebeliever
11-03-2005, 09:01 AM
Yeh, someone has put the heat on the man.

Labor has disgusted me even more. Truly pathetic.

Well, after watching the latest Illuminati expose i am convinced that Howard has been a long term stooge.

He sat his bar exam and went STRAIGHT into politics. Alexander Downer is close behind. No one as embarrasingly pathetic as Downer got their off his own back.

Now I see just what a threat Mark Latham was. Quite frankly i think he was lucky to get out alive.

Shannow
11-03-2005, 01:26 PM
"Cactus Island" the other day had a meeting of the Libs, in which Howard explained that the next move forward would be to change distances and volumes to miles and Gallons...George would like that. (my note..when he moves here, it will be easier).

Part way through the meeting, he spies Beazley in the wings. Beazley explains that he's agreeing with him so often, he thought he better join the liberal party.

Ended up with Howard appointing Costello as the leader of the opposition "cause he NEVER agrees with me".

Funniest episode I've heard in ages, but I couldn't laugh.

Maybe voluntary voting will allow me to avoid "voting" for a politiican.

Khopesh
11-03-2005, 08:14 PM
Aw no cactus island, on the radio right.
Haha shit I havent heard that for years and thought it had gone long ago.
Old buckets beasley and all, id like to see a lot more political satire on the tv over here, well while its still legal.