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this
02-19-2005, 04:07 PM
This has seemed to be a fairly obvious campaign. The colours used are usually red and black, the atmosphere is 'kick-ass', or 'raise some hell'. Their target audience is younger. Their slogan is "Grab life by the Horns", their mantra at the close of every commercial is "Kick-It!"

Decades ago Dodge decided to call it's truck Ram. They put a rams head with horns on the hood of the trucks. Now that sister nameplate Plymouth has disappeared, all Dodge vehicles wear the Ram logo. A car's grille is unique to a mark, Dodge has decided that whether on a minivan, car or truck that a simple cross with a goat's head on it is the way to go.

Closely associated with Dodge is Mopar, or Motor Parts. Their M logo looks similar to a devil's pitchfork or trident.

http://www.dodge.com
http://www.mopar.com

nohope187
02-19-2005, 05:43 PM
Until Dodge or Mopar has Baphomet pentagrams for logos, I think your looking into somethin' that's not there. :-P

this
02-19-2005, 09:24 PM
Well I'm no expert, and I don't want to be but it seems pretty obvious. What shape do you see (in black) inside the red Dodge Ram logo? The same shape as the bap... thing I just looked up, exactly the same.

nohope187
02-20-2005, 12:01 PM
So, where's the star encasing the goat-head and the circle around it in the logo?

get_real
02-20-2005, 01:08 PM
Hello this!
Re: Imagery. You are right in regards to The Beast Imagery. I've known this for years through a friend of mine in advertising, plus most males on his father's side(uncles, cousins) were freemasons. They loved their Chrysler Corporation cars and trucks. They love their little symbols and logos, and the whole "look at us". Actually, I like my Dodge minivan. However, I am not associated with the Freemasons or Eastern Stars in any way. The old chrysler emblem was a hidden five pointed star with the points folded into the center. That was well known. Somewhere I read in these threads:
some know, some don't. There's alot of advertising with images imbedded 'here and there'. Some for subliminal affect, some for 'right in your face' affect. But you are right, it is intentional. They are not exactly going to put Bapho-whomever on anything. Just the representation of.

marypopinz
02-20-2005, 03:19 PM
I believe the thread "some articles you might find interesting" is completely appropriate to the nature of this thread and the imagery the media uses to subtly coerce minds where they want them to go - memes.

AISB_Watch
02-20-2005, 05:48 PM
Dodge Brothers Canada Ltd.
http://www.windsorpubliclibrary.com/digi/wow/images_cars/dodgelogo.jpg

http://www.usauto.pl/galeria/1926%20Dodge%20Brothers%204%20Dr%20Touring%20blue-radcap=mx=.jpg
http://www.autoextremist.com/dreamcruise2001/badges/DodgeBrothers.jpg

EMBLEM GALLERY (http://www.autoextremist.com/dreamcruise2001/badges/index.html)

nohope187
02-20-2005, 05:56 PM
See, that's what I'm talkin' about, man. That last picture there, is overt occult symbolism. The regular dodge logo with the ram's head on a sheild is nothing compared to this one.

AISB_Watch
02-20-2005, 07:33 PM
http://www.emblemagic.com/images/emblems2.jpg
http://www.datacomm.ch/1two3/bilder/finest.JPG
http://www.emblemagic.com/images/Customer%20Cars/37_Dodge_Show_034.jpg
http://www.emblemagic.com/images/Customer%20Cars/37_Dodge_Show_033.jpg
http://www.peerlessmotorcar.com/images/emblem_small.gif
http://www.caraccessories.com/images/822015%20SNAKE%2092-02%20140.jpg
http://www.dzstoys.com/viper/emblem_small.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/fierofanaticus/images/emblem2.jpg
http://www.mgwltd.com/images/srtrace2.gif
http://www.carmotorsports.com/images/GTA_White_Nose_Patch.jpg
http://www.petergoodrumphotography.co.uk/automotive/images/alfa_badge_t.jpg
http://www.alfaromeo.com/ALFAROMEO_COM/uploads/1026/1073792364/20030605/ST_A_000_1.jpg

this
02-20-2005, 10:15 PM
If pointing any of this out helps, then great, although I'm guessing that many people would rather not know that they are being toyed with.

Advertising is a pretty powerful medium, and my impression is that it is used to stir the pot a little, add in a little ingredients and see what happens. With ad executives competing for market share and prestige, they try anything, no matter how silly or risqué. And their corporate clients are willing to try a campaign if it gets noticed. They say sex sells, and also bad publicity sometimes works too.

However certain subjects are taboo because they can lead to reduced market share. I'm not sure what those subjects are anymore because boundaries are being pushed all the time. Rest assured that any logo or pitch line is analysed to death for various connotations, subliminal meanings and market affect. The case of GM marketing it's Nova car in a non-English speaking country was an oversight and an exception!

The devil imagery on TV these days is not too offensive, it's mixed in with rappers, celebrity motorcycle builders, tattood lizard people and whatever. Young men mostly, talking to the camera will reflexively pull in their middle two fingers while talking to you, seeming to say "Yo!, What's up? You know what I'm sayin'" and other variations of I'm cool, you're cool. The Dodge ads in question I think appeal to young people. The idea is to bring in satanic symbols not overtly but covertly. Subliminal advertising - you know what I'm saying? :P

If you go to www.dodge.com you get a strobe effect ram's head in your face every time. But it's the inner image that your subconscious mind picks up as well. They've done studies on this subliminal stuff, it apparently works to some degree. I think the horned creature imagery (and "grab life by the HORNS" phrase - talk about in your face) is brought in to desensitize youth to the sick nature of the occult. It's not sick, it's FUN!!!! That inner image in the ram's head is totally deliberate, millions are spent developing and testing logos. What we must conclude is that the testing didn't predict a loss in market share and somehow appealed to people who consider themselves rebellious (youth).

They're not going to say "Satan rides a Buick, you should too" I don't think people would go for that. Conspiracy is not usually overt, that's the idea. I think the 5 or 6 pointed stars are a separate issue all together. In the 40's when the Dodge Bros. put that hexagram on their hoods I'm guessing people thought that was Jewish, since they would have seen gravestones with that symbol on them. Why Israel chose that image, and US sherrifs is a whole discussion I'm sure. Another would be why did the US choose the 5 pointed star for their flag. (and just about every other state for that matter?)

Dodge did market a car in the 1970's called the Demon. Now that's overt. As this ad shows it was meant to turn off your elders.

this
02-20-2005, 10:27 PM
As for the stylized 'M' in Mopar being a devil's pitchfork, here's a Dodge graphic...

this
02-20-2005, 10:33 PM
Okay, I can't import that image, try:

http://www.thet-shirtguy.com/JFPInt/demon.htm

get_real
02-22-2005, 01:43 PM
Something else to add to this thread. These ram logos also signify the old testament god for some. This is why they use the ram (aries) which came before christ - fish (pisces).
According to the astrology version of this: aries signifies matter, earth, earthly things. And as you probably guessed, the earth people want their earthly things, and then some. You guessed again, non acceptance of fish, pisces, christ, new testament. To them new testament is nothing more than starting/becoming a new god by using the old god for reference. Just thought I'd put my two cents in.
Hey, and nobody yell at me. I'm just telling you what I heard/read. See ya later, alligator.

AISB_Watch
02-22-2005, 07:22 PM
That Jesus was represented as a fish according to some sort of mystical interpretations of the early christians is a falsehood.</p>
<p><b>
Lastly
here, I should point out again that Jesus is never referenced as a fish.<span style="">&nbsp;
</span>The fish was an iconographic symbol used by the early church to
communicate in the catacombs (this is well known).<span style="">&nbsp;
</span>“Fish” in Greek is spelled:
</i></b></p>
<p><i style="">
<img src="http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/ichthustext.jpg" border="0" height="283" width="433"></o:p>
</span></font></i></p>
<p><b><span style=""><i>When
Christians in the catacombs saw the fish sign scrawled,
they knew Christians were near or used that place.<span style="">&nbsp;
</span>They didn’t think, “hey, the sign of the fish god, Jesus.”<span style="">&nbsp;
</span>They read “Jesus Christ, God’s son, the Savior.”
</i></b></p>
<p>The above <a href="http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/Disciple%20william_henry.htm">was taken from here</a>, at the incredible site of <a href="http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/">Michael Heiser</a> (who debunks Sitchin admirably).</p>

nohope187
02-24-2005, 04:29 PM
At some point in time, there had to be a pagan connotation to it. I've heard the term,"Pisces Christ" too often for it not to have one.

AISB_Watch
02-24-2005, 08:27 PM
New age/occult poppycock.

The illuminati want you to buy their crap that Jesus was just another in a succession of "Avatars", that he was not the Son of God but only a wise man in the tradition of a Krisna, Zoroaster, Buddha or Mohammed. Each age, for them, has its own enlightened teacher. They distinguish the ages by the procession of the equinox. That Jesus appeared in the Pisces age means nothing to a true christian but means a whole lot to the pagans.

Each astrological age has a 2,152 year cycle. The age of Pisces has been here for around 2,000 years. The next age, according to the occultists, is the age of Aquarius. Further, it is not just the age of Aquarius but it is the beginning of a new cycle in the procession. Twelve zodiac ages combined for a complete circle that the earth draws in the heavens as it rotates on its axis, for a total of 28,826 years. Pisces is the last in the cycle and Aquarius starts the process anew.

This is why they are looking for a new age messiah, a new Maitreya or a new reincarnation of Krisna, to usher in the "new age."

nohope187
02-24-2005, 08:39 PM
Yeah, I guess your right 'cause Pisces Christ couldn't be Anti-Christ because they're obsessed with Aquarius. I don't know if that made any sense.

AISB_Watch
02-24-2005, 08:42 PM
Oops! writing on top of you. I edited my post.

nohope187
02-24-2005, 08:57 PM
"I see" said the blind man to the deaf dog pissing in the wind. "It's all coming back to me." 8-)

latinlover
03-09-2005, 09:03 AM
this wrote:
This has seemed to be a fairly obvious campaign. The colours used are usually red and black, the atmosphere is 'kick-ass', or 'raise some hell'. Their target audience is younger. Their slogan is "Grab life by the Horns", their mantra at the close of every commercial is "Kick-It!"

Decades ago Dodge decided to call it's truck Ram. They put a rams head with horns on the hood of the trucks. Now that sister nameplate Plymouth has disappeared, all Dodge vehicles wear the Ram logo. A car's grille is unique to a mark, Dodge has decided that whether on a minivan, car or truck that a simple cross with a goat's head on it is the way to go.

Closely associated with Dodge is Mopar, or Motor Parts. Their M logo looks similar to a devil's pitchfork or trident.

http://www.dodge.com
http://www.mopar.com

www.columbia.edu/~gwo2001/dodge.html

marypopinz
03-09-2005, 11:18 AM
Hilarious!!!!


" Anyway, I ask you how 'macho' a Dodge Ram can be when their emblem is basically the female reproductive system with nostrils:"

nohope187
03-09-2005, 01:48 PM
I never noticed that before till you just mentioned it. Thanx, Mary. hehe!:-P

this
03-09-2005, 02:33 PM
and who's to say the images aren't overlapped? It would not be surprising with people who do sacrifices to be familiar with internal anatomy. I would consider the later interpretation as degrading.

Horns...

marypopinz
03-09-2005, 02:38 PM
Thank latin lover

It was his link at bottom of his post. Rediculously funny, in my eyes. Maybe I have a warped sense of humour???