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Overlord
11-19-2005, 06:08 PM
Just a thought, I'm all for the general idea of conspiracy, but this crap
about Jews in specific is just too much.

Look, there is no way I can talk any of you guys into changing your
mind but just think about this:

The ten richest people in the world:

William H Gates III
Warren E Buffett
Karl & Theo Albrecht
Paul G Allen
Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Alsaud
Lawrence J Ellison
Alice L Walton
Helen R Walton
Jim C Walton
John T Walton

Amount of executives in AOL Time Warner: 24
Among them FIVE are of Jewish descent.
Amount of executives in Gannet: 34
Among them THREE are of Jewish descent.

In the US, 6% of all banking and Brokering officers of the largest firms are of Jewish descent.

At Morgan Stanley 2 out of 23 executives are of Jewish descent.

At Citibank 5 out of 54 are of Jewish descent.
At NY stock Exchange four out of 32 are of Jewish descent.

You also have to take into account that the Jewish population of the US mainly lie in the major cities,
making the population of, for instance New York: 18%. Thus there is a great UNDERREPRESENTATION
if you count inhabitation in the city itself as a ground for employment.

In my opinion, the tobacco-industry which is founded exclusively by white christians, are responsible for so much death and suffering
that I am inclined to accuse my own religion and color of terrible misdoings (if I were to follow the reasoning that a belief and origin is enough cause for untrustworthiness).

11-19-2005, 06:19 PM
Overlord wrote:
Just a thought, I'm all for the general idea of conspiracy, but this crap
about Jews in specific is just too much.

Look, there is no way I can talk any of you guys into changing your
mind but just think about this:

The ten richest people in the world:

William H Gates III
Warren E Buffett
Karl & Theo Albrecht
Paul G Allen
Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Alsaud
Lawrence J Ellison
Alice L Walton
Helen R Walton
Jim C Walton
John T Walton

Amount of executives in AOL Time Warner: 24
Among them FIVE are of Jewish descent.
Amount of executives in Gannet: 34
Among them THREE are of Jewish descent.

In the US, 6% of all banking and Brokering officers of the largest firms are of Jewish descent.

At Morgan Stanley 2 out of 23 executives are of Jewish descent.

At Citibank 5 out of 54 are of Jewish descent.
At NY stock Exchange four out of 32 are of Jewish descent.

You also have to take into account that the Jewish population of the US mainly lie in the major cities,
making the population of, for instance New York: 18%. Thus there is a great UNDERREPRESENTATION
if you count inhabitation in the city itself as a ground for employment.

In my opinion, the tobacco-industry which is founded exclusively by white christians, are responsible for so much death and suffering
that I am inclined to accuse my own religion and color of terrible misdoings (if I were to follow the reasoning that a belief and origin is enough cause for untrustworthiness).

The Jew is not the problem, the human is the problem. We have a solution. Watch for it.

nohope187
11-19-2005, 06:50 PM
I don't remember the Marlboro Man or Joe Camel proclaiming Christ. :-P

freeman
11-19-2005, 10:00 PM
One can make this argument either way ad infinatum, because, taking for instance the baking claims, I know for a fact that Rothschild ownership of the largest part of the banking industry under "straw men" and subsidiary structures has been demonstrated quite decisively by many, including Eustace Mullins in his Secrets of the Federal Reserve. Also, keep in mind Baron Rothschild's secret ownership of the Russian oil corporation, which emerged after the arrest of oligarch Mikhail Khodorkovsky by Vladimir Putin, as well as the number of elite families like the Rockefellers and Bushes who have intermingled Jewish blood and pretend to be non-Jewish. The ADL and other pro-Jewish lobbies try to use unexamined data and statistics to prove the same point that you are attempting to deomonstrate, i. e., that Jews aren't as wealthy as they seem.
The simple truth is that they are overrepresented both in terms of wealth and their status in the NWO, but there is no conclusive evidence IMO to show that they are running the entire conspiracy.

truebeliever
11-20-2005, 12:14 AM
I think the BIGGEST elephant in the living room is the WELL documented rise of Mr Beuer (now Rothschild) as the biggest fractional reserve money lender of all time.

There is NO argument there.

People say..."oh but the power of these private firms has 'waned'". They have become diluted etc...

Yeh right. You ascend to great power under a philosophy of deceit and then you wake up one day and decide to let yoour power...'wane'.

The only thing that has waned is the name on the beginning of the paper trail. At it's end no doubt are the 'usual suspects'.

Overlord
11-21-2005, 05:58 PM
If Rothschild is in possession of the big oil in Russia, then why is the RUssian government aggressively wresting it from private ownership?

Minuteman
11-21-2005, 06:25 PM
Evil companies, what a novel concept. Perhaps I have a small advantage here. Perhaps the thick tar that coats my lungs prevents the nano-particle depleted uranium dust from latching onto my lungs, maybe not. Here in America I am not supposed to have a cigarette but yet I have to live in a microwave saturated enviornment so some other idiots can talk to each other while paying over fifty dollars a month for the privledge.
Here in America I can ingest 3000 or more food additives including artificial sweeteners, which by the way always tasted at least to me like toxic pond scum. You really do know better. Trust your own basic instincts, the ultimate BS meter.
As far as Christian, have we changed that much?
Can I interest anyone in a crusade for the Holy Grail?
I like the list of rich assholes though. Hopefully a list of hunted men, God if the rest would only wake up. Damm, don't it suck being aware, sort of and having five beers?

nomad
11-21-2005, 06:43 PM
Overload, Do some research into the beginning

and founding of the major Tobbaco companies and

get ready for a big surprise.

Overlord
11-22-2005, 05:17 PM
yes yes everything is funded by someone Jewish..or relatives of jews. It's like that Bacon-factor.

And being AWARE, does that make your life great? Is it better or worse? Isn't it a sin to gloat, by the way?

Akbar
11-23-2005, 11:33 AM
overlord,
The richest people in the world do not report their worth. If they did it would bring too much light to them. They only report on those we know who are rich. Their worth has been passed down over centuries and they are very powerful. They only have a list of the richest people so they could give the masses someone to look at. They prefer to remain hidden.

Overlord
11-23-2005, 03:23 PM
Dear Akbar, if there is no information about the richest people, then how can there be so much knowledge about them on this site? How come people that are basically just normal people like you, except that you believe a little too much in what's written on the "net", know stuff that is "so well hidden"?

nomad
11-23-2005, 05:48 PM
Akbar wrote:
overlord,
The richest people in the world do not report their worth. If they did it would bring too much light to them. They only report on those we know who are rich. Their worth has been passed down over centuries and they are very powerful. They only have a list of the richest people so they could give the masses someone to look at. They prefer to remain hidden.


Absolutely correct Akbar ... there are actually

obscenely wealthy TRILLIONAIRES in this world that

will make the Bill Gates look like paupers.

truebeliever
11-24-2005, 04:14 AM
OL:

Dear Akbar, if there is no information about the richest people, then how can there be so much knowledge about them on this site? How come people that are basically just normal people like you, except that you believe a little too much in what's written on the "net", know stuff that is "so well hidden"?

Just because you dont know anyone does'nt mean everyone is as illinformed as you.

I know things from friends of ex-army who work as body gaurds for the rich and shameless. Private investigators. SEX WORKERS!!!!!! (the best sources of info). Coppers and asset investigation units attached to police investigations. Night club owners and bouncers. High school teachers who have worked for the Saudi Royal family. Nannies (my sister worked for a filthy rish Turkish family for a year). Private pilots (my Grandfathers best friend flew Kery Packers plane). Tax Department employees.

As you can see. Stuff gets out VERY easily. I have recieved info from ALL of these soruces alone.

Next question...

Akbar
11-24-2005, 08:53 AM
my point in the previous post was that most of the richest people in the world prefer thst their wealth is not reported in public. I still believe that you will not find the names of the richest people in world in a magazine. I think you would be illinformed to believe that they would reveal themselves to the public. They have learned from history how to manipulate the masses.

11-24-2005, 02:51 PM
Akbar wrote:
my point in the previous post was that most of the richest people in the world prefer thst their wealth is not reported in public. I still believe that you will not find the names of the richest people in world in a magazine. I think you would be illinformed to believe that they would reveal themselves to the public. They have learned from history how to manipulate the masses.

I know this to be true. Would you say that a family that has been a sole supplier to a nation for over two hundred years has accumulated real wealth. They are intermarried with the DuPonts and Bacardis and others. They can keep their immense wealth out of the media, They are members of the Trilateral Commission and the Council on Foreign Relations. Very few would have ever heard of them and they are rich beyond your belief. They could not care less about the average people of this world and yet they are beloved. Some people on this site think there is a chance, I here to tell you that there isn't.

nomad
11-24-2005, 04:58 PM
book-o-flaws wrote:

Akbar wrote:
my point in the previous post was that most of the richest people in the world prefer thst their wealth is not reported in public. I still believe that you will not find the names of the richest people in world in a magazine. I think you would be illinformed to believe that they would reveal themselves to the public. They have learned from history how to manipulate the masses.

I know this to be true. Would you say that a family that has been a sole supplier to a nation for over two hundred years has accumulated real wealth. They are intermarried with the DuPonts and Bacardis and others. They can keep their immense wealth out of the media, They are members of the Trilateral Commission and the Council on Foreign Relations. Very few would have ever heard of them and they are rich beyond your belief. They could not care less about the average people of this world and yet they are beloved. Some people on this site think there is a chance, I here to tell you that there isn't.


I happen to agree there isn't a chance otherwise

the Bible would be proven wrong and there would

be no need for the Book of Revelation.

The real question is ... why is God peddling the

same Action Reaction Solution dirty trick ?

Overlord
11-24-2005, 05:00 PM
Ah! So you say that media is simply not attached to the truth, that there is noone of medias operators that is in lieu of that information that the friends of friends of Sheiks, bodyguards and sexworkers are?

I find that supposition preposterous!

You seriously (!!) believe that the information you get from your friends is impossible to attain by a journalist? Mind you, many journalists are not educated within media, they are simply a person who writes, whereby their writing is bought by newspapers.

You think very highly of yourself that you would be privy to such information, I must say.

Or perhaps you mean that a writer is simply afraid to write because he might be killed?

I know many writers who are not deterred by the mere threat of death. There are greater causes than ones self.

I'm thinking China - Falun Gong, I'm thinking Salman Rushdie - Iran, I'm thinking... I'm not going to tire you since you already stopped reading.

truebeliever
11-24-2005, 05:38 PM
OL...it is hard for me. You make claims on the level of mixing your fascism/communism again. There are so many hours in the day to correct you.

Ah! So you say that media is simply not attached to the truth...

Ha ha ha ha ha... next idiot question.

...that there is noone of medias operators that is in lieu of that information that the friends of friends of Sheiks, bodyguards and sexworkers are?

Absoloutly. They cannot mix in the exact same circles as me. When's the last time you bumped into an ex-SAS lackey who worked for a U.S company contracting out bodygaurds to the rich and shamelss?

I find that supposition preposterous!

"The world is round" - refer above quote for the Catholic Church response.

You seriously (!!)

With all my little heart and soul...

...believe that the information you get from your friends is impossible to attain by a journalist?

Several points to make here. Journalists get CONTACTED by people wishing to have their stories heard. I do not think ex SAS bodygaurds make a habit of ringing their local investigative journalist's to "tell all". Also, what makes you think the people who view these events and behaviours give ebnough of a shit about them to even warrent "ringing" a journalists up? The average Oz slob can bearly read a non-fiction book let alone write a letter or find the number for the ABC's 4 Corners show.

And even if they did...are you SO ignorent of the way the media works? Newspapers are OWNED by the very same forces we seek to expose!!!!!!!!! Take Kerry Packer. Local Oz media Mogul. He is RENOWNED for ringing up his editors and saying EXACTLY this..."you fucking prick! You're out. Get out now." Thats to one of his editors several years back over a story which I cannot remember. He did'nt like it. NO editor has been fired since. You soon learn who pays the piper calls the tune...

The media's job is NOT to inform but to SELL advertising. That is their ENTIRE reason for existing. They are a BUSINESS. They want to SELL stuff to a certain economic class of person. If you told people how the world worked they would get depressed and not go to work and not spend up. I strongly suggest you get Chomskies EXCELLENT doco "Manufacturing Consent" on the nature of the global media.

Also, if you knew of Operation Mockingbird you would know that HUNDREDS of newspaper editors around the world are DIRECTLY employed by the Intelligence services. Bob Woodwood is ex Office Of Naval Intelligence.

Mind you, many journalists are not educated within media, they are simply a person who writes, whereby their writing is bought by newspapers.

If you are freelance and write of these things you will NOT get many returned calls. That is why the internet blossoms for those who cannot be heard through the mainstream.

You think very highly of yourself that you would be privy to such information, I must say.

You know matey, this is why i call you a fucking moron and cocksucker. Because when I personally whip your ignorent arse and firmly attach your tail between your legs this is what you do. You attack me personally. I simply mix in different circles to you. I count on my "aquaintance" list organized crime figures, doctors, lawyers, stockbrokers, drug dealers, sex workers, priests, armed forces, political speech writers etc... Only a week ago a friend went to a airshow with an ex IDF fighter pilot who writes the weapons and sensor system code for the Oz submarine fleet. You see, i mix in colourful circles but then that is only what God arranges for me.

Again, i simply state what "is". To write that little peice says ALOT about your deep insecurities when faced by someone who knows what they are talking about.

You need to address the deep underlying psychological complex that is expressed via your "nick". When you aspire to OVERLORD status and a foul mouthed Oz colonial keeps slapping your bitch face down it is a message from God.

Or perhaps you mean that a writer is simply afraid to write because he might be killed?

Hmmmm...i guess it's possible? ROFL at ignorence! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I know many writers who are not deterred by the mere threat of death. There are greater causes than ones self.

I note "mere threat". How about taking a risk and reading and watching what is recommended to you. All you have to lose is your incredible ignorence.

I'm thinking China - Falun Gong, I'm thinking Salman Rushdie - Iran, I'm thinking... I'm not going to tire you since you already stopped reading.

Yes, stop there because you ran out of ideas. Then turn it on me. How usual.

My advice to you my little neophyte of how the world works is this...

When your leg heals, leave the chair your in and walk out the front door. From right to left is the wild and whacky world in which we live. Drop the pretentious shit and OVERLORD aspirations and mix with the peasants. Never know what you might juicy gossip you might hear.

Overlord
11-26-2005, 12:07 AM
Ha ha ha Dear Truebeliever! You amuse me. You were supposed to stop reading my posts!

I find your irritation suggestive of something similar to interest. That is why I linger and write these painfully long novellas.

You really are irritated at my meaningless follies.

Every time I choose to flourish my fancies, you interpret that as a weakness. I have nothing to threaten you with, yet you attack me. It's such a silly game. Why we continue I do not know. Probably you really have nothing better to do with your life. Like everybody else at this forum (like me), bored to death. You really hate your job, don't you?

Look at the following text as a polemic contribution, not a provocation, please:

Do these very connected people know that you write on the internet about what they in confidence tell you? I'm sure they will not be happy if they knew. You are being very disloyal, revealing their secrets. Or perhaps they don't care. Perhaps they tell you these stories because they know you WILL write everything on the internet. Because no other writer will. And they will not care if they are hurt because they are looking forward to death and pain. And perhaps because everybody else, except you, are afraid to write these stories. All other writers that are professional only write about cooking or television shows. Absolutely all other writers except people like you are controlled by a very dangerous mass-media.

Furthermore; It is absurd that you feel you have to explain to me that media is a vehicle for PR-commercials. Of course they are! Most television and printed media is a advertising-vehicle-business. That is nothing strange. Why even mention it?


For my business I annually contract security riding trough various areas where our vehicles (trucks mostly) need protection and our representatives need escort. I have dealings with these kind of people on a regular basis, I need to know them basically even though I don't like it. When I stay on site in foreign places I somethimes live with weapons-experts. I have consulted with war-experts about territory that I am about to enter with my company and those experts I hire as speakers sometimes have written extensively about their experiences (Yes even SAS-and Seal/DELTA-soldiers write books) with great sales as result. They even advice on computer-games and movies. What about it? I hear stories from them that never get fully explained in media, unless you need to study the case in detail. Theses people don't have to hide anything, it's just that normal people don't care.

Your story about OZ media mogul is just the thing we want to avoid, a boss wantonly firing people. That is not how things are supposed to work, and that is exactly how Fascistic societies are built. Work-force insecurity free-speech removal is the first sign of Fascism and Communism (theoretically not the same but in practice...extremely similar).

I cannot see you whipping my behind anywhere. It just doesn't hurt. Are you using invisi-thread? Perhaps you are using a soft stroke. Or perhaps your hands are very soft and flabby.

Actually I don't even see the need. It's just such a silly thing to say. Yes, it's amazing all that you have done. You earned your earlier money in drug-selling you say? You used to protect sex-workers from violence? And now you meet with stock-brokers, lawyers and war-experts who programme submarines? That is totally amazing! Especially when you find so much time every day to stare at your computer-screen. You should be a writer. Why do you feel the need to write about anything on the internet when you could write for movies or a magazine that will buy your story for many thousands of dollars.

Either because you care so much for your fellow humans and you want the truth to be told, or perhaps you need to just talk to somebody. You want someone to listen to you, desperately. OK, we're listening. You don't need to assume this heroic and tragic character to get listeners.

We listen anyway. That's why this forum is here. Shit, I'll listen if you have any trouble even if you're the most uninteresting person on the internet.

And I really find it amusing how you insist on imagining how you slap me around. AS if a god wanted me to be slapped wround for my insolence towards a wiser more heroic Australian.

You see, there is no god. Only me, the OVAHRLOARD! Meee meee I AM THE OOOVAAAA LOOAARRDD

(I thought the name would blend in perfectly amongst you other people)

I mean, truebeliever... what kind of name is that? Sorry it's private to you, can't touch that. Akbar? That's basically the same name as me.. Nomad.. gosh that's touching. Draken... that's nordic for Dragon, not too shabby. Goes well with his odd Fascistic/aristocratic fetish. So what the hell. can't blame a guy for trying to be funny. And obviously ...failing since you all think I'm bloody serious about such an over-the-top ridiculous nick.


Ovvvaaaa loooaaaaaaahhhdd
Mooooaaaa haaa haaa haaa

truebeliever
11-26-2005, 12:24 AM
Why do you feel the need to write about anything on the internet when you could write for movies...

In the pipeline.

Be nice and you will get it in return.

See you on the threads.