View Full Version : MTV, Chemtrails and The destruction of the human race.

11-27-2005, 09:23 AM
I was watching TV today (which I rarely do), and switched it to MTV. I saw this black guy with diamond dentures, jewellery like the bloody queen of england, talking about his wealth, and how it was the most important thing in the universe. There where some bitches-in-heat dancing around there too of course. Anyway, as I watched with my jaw on the floor in disgust, it hit me...
"Looks like our time is running out. Looks like society is on the brink of collapse. Looks like the world should end any day now." These were my thoughts, out of the blue, as if something else had said it.

Anyway, so a couple of weeks ago, I found out about these 'chemtrails'. I went out side and guess what? Chemtrails streaked across the sky.
(Note - The chemicals dropped contain BARIUM and ALUMINUM. Why?)

So Iíve linked these two together. Seems to me, that we are seriously being screwed over here. Imagine feeding guinea pigs rat poison (watching them munch away in delight of the new strawberry flavour Ďyumyumí). Thatís what I sense the human race is going through. If not sky-dropped chems, then by some other means (LIKE FLUORIDE IN TOOTHPASTE? Whatís that about? Fluoride is a TOXIN!).

So what are these chemicals doing to us? And why is the media putting on such a good show? (Yellow smilies painted all over an STS hydrogen bomb to make it look like a kiddies rocket ship ride, only without the coin slots).

Peace and love.

11-27-2005, 10:39 AM
I've heard a lot about fluoride in tooth pastes and the water, but did you know they feed little 1mg pills of the stuff to kids? They used to give strait fluoride pills to kids each morning for their teeth and they still do. Now they are intergrated with vitamins, so it has a daily value label. Take a look at this...


And then take a look at the amounts recommended on the back...


Notice anything strange? It's not a real clear shot but I think you can make it out. It has a * for the amount of fluoride for the day! There is no safe amount! This was prescribed by a pediatrician...I've explained to my mother that it wasn't good but it's like trying to explain things to a fence post. So she keeps feeding it to my little sister, 1mg per day on top of what's in the tooth paste, or in the fluoride mouth rinse the school was pushing. They even had a program where kids could go to the nurses office each day for a fluoride rinse! This place is insane and I feel like the only person around who notices any of this stuff.

It's really sad, I can't even help my own family never mind change the world for the better because no one will listen. I could provide any documentation and explain it clearly but doesn't matter.

11-27-2005, 02:11 PM
Listen, youíd better throw that stuff down the toilet because she's feeding your little sister poison. Fluoride is a toxic by-product from refined aluminium. Looks like they found a way to get rid of the stuff, because you cant dispose of it efficiently. Why do they care so much about childrenís teeth, when the food they eat does hell to their insides? because they donít. The real question is why do they want these kids to die quicker?
Who knows?

I just wonder what reason they have for poisoning us.

11-27-2005, 02:38 PM
If you play "fgllow the money" on flouride, it gets back to the U.S. atomic energy mobs, who realised that they were exposing their workers to a shitload of flouride in processing uranium.

So they did some testing, and suprise suprise, not only wasn't it a problem, but it was actually GOOD for their employees to be exposed. (*)

Aluminium and fertiliser industries then hopped on board, and found a way of not only getting rid of some of their waste, but selling it.

Then Governments mandate including it in drinking water.

Look at it logically, the cost of installing and operating a flouridation plant the adds flouride to every single drop of water, the majority of which is used to flush toilets, water gardens, wash cars is huge. They would save millions, just giving each family 20 litres of flouridated, bottled water every week.

(*) same people did the studies of the safety of D.U.

11-27-2005, 02:41 PM
As an aside, be very careful with any fertilisers that you may buy to try to provide your family with "healthy" home grown produce.

Recently, in Oz, the Govt came up with new standards for heavy metal contamination of fertilisers, where there were none before.

Now most fertilisers contain the maximum amount permissable by law (once again...distribute the waste, rather then manage it).

Some experts have complained that annual use of these products will heavily contaminate the soils AND the produce that you are growing for your family.

11-27-2005, 02:43 PM
David wrote:
I've heard a lot about fluoride in tooth pastes and the water, but did you know they feed little 1mg pills of the stuff to kids? They used to give strait fluoride pills to kids each morning for their teeth and they still do. Now they are intergrated with vitamins, so it has a daily value label. Take a look at this...


And then take a look at the amounts recommended on the back...


Notice anything strange? It's not a real clear shot but I think you can make it out. It has a * for the amount of fluoride for the day! There is no safe amount! This was prescribed by a pediatrician...I've explained to my mother that it wasn't good but it's like trying to explain things to a fence post. So she keeps feeding it to my little sister, 1mg per day on top of what's in the tooth paste, or in the fluoride mouth rinse the school was pushing. They even had a program where kids could go to the nurses office each day for a fluoride rinse! This place is insane and I feel like the only person around who notices any of this stuff.

It's really sad, I can't even help my own family never mind change the world for the better because no one will listen. I could provide any documentation and explain it clearly but doesn't matter.

many of notice this and when we point it out

to our parents, friends and spouses they think

WE are crazy due to the monopoly press and

controlled "education"

11-27-2005, 09:18 PM
many of notice this and when we point it out to our parents, friends and spouses they think WE are crazy due to the monopoly press and controlled "education"

I think people only have so much energy in the day.

They can barely hold together a job, mortgage, kids, love affairs and the terror of getting old and lonely. And then a bunch of whako's like us comes along and pesters them that everything they are told is a lie and the powers that be are poisening them slowly.

No wonder they hate us and have to label us.

Though i admit there is DEFINATE "conspiricy" with regards many of these health issues, from personal experience it gets down to the people that matter not giving a shit.

People are wondering who will win the footy and if they'll get laid on the weekend.

So be it. Wish i could simply leave the planet and leave them to it but i cant so we stay and fight.

In the end, no songs will be written about Cheyney and Wolfowitz, but they will sure as hell be singing them for the grass roots nutters who changed the world for the better.

Thats us.

11-28-2005, 08:22 PM
OK, if flouride is really good for teeth then why oh why do I see here on the shelf at the local drug store baby water with flouride added.
As a glass blower I know that HF etches glass. Thats just hydrogen and flourine. If you spill this acid on your skin and do not get the proper treatment instantly you will die. Nothing in the body stops the flourine atom, nothing. The pictures of an HF burn are truely really gross bleckened skin.
And chemtrails? Just wait until you see the dark lines in the sky that preceed the trail coming out of the back of the airplane. Look up enough, you will see it.

11-29-2005, 04:56 AM
I havenít seen any of the black trails you speak of, but yesterday I did see a commercial jetliner 'disperse' a load of white liquid, which sprayed across the sky. Perhaps they were just emptying the septic tank.

Has anyone been sick lately, or had an unusual build-up of mucus in the pipes? Perhaps some of us will be immune to these chemicals, and others wont.
*More on this

11-29-2005, 07:18 AM
About this chemtrail thing...I have NEVER seen such a thing in Brazil. Ever. And we have lots of air traffic.

However, when I lived in the States, I saw it all the time.

I find it strange that nobody ever was able to prove anything about it. Wouldn't it be possible to perform some chemical test on the air ?

11-29-2005, 07:58 AM
Saturnino wrote:
About this chemtrail thing...I have NEVER seen such a thing in Brazil. Ever. And we have lots of air traffic.

However, when I lived in the States, I saw it all the time.

I find it strange that nobody ever was able to prove anything about it. Wouldn't it be possible to perform some chemical test on the air ?

Perhaps Brazil doesnt need to be 'dusted'. Which makes it an even nicer place to be.

Chemical tests reveal Barium and Aluminum. Thatís all I know for now.

11-29-2005, 08:15 AM
As a glass blower I know that HF etches glass. Thats just hydrogen and flourine. If you spill this acid on your skin and do not get the proper treatment instantly you will die. Nothing in the body stops the flourine atom, nothing.

A guy in Perth about 5 years ago spilt some on his hand at his home chemical lab. He ran screaming into his swimming pool asking for someone to ring an ambulance. The operator thought the phone caller said "Hydrochloric acid" instead of "Hydroflouric acid" and the ambulance did'nt make it a priority one.

He was dead in 15 minutes.

I always ask people..."you could put a lot of healthy things in the water...why Flouride? Who woke up one day and said...'You know what? The world needs MORE Flouride!'"

If it is so good for you why not simply make it into tablet form.

I use a reverse osmosis unit with sediment, carbon and osmotic filter. It removes EVERYTHING.

11-29-2005, 10:15 AM
Do you have chemtrails in Oz, TB?

11-29-2005, 01:13 PM
I think that those of us with region 4 DVD players don't see chemtrails. (Why do Oz and Brazil share a DVD region ?)

Nope, I've never seen them...have started seeing rectangular clouds and stuff, maybe they are coming.

11-29-2005, 02:55 PM
Once when I had a neighbor from Germany he was talking about petrol additives, you know, like MTBE and stuff. He says that there are "binary compounds" that the shadow council wants in our gas, but they have trouble getting the materials into the country, except now it is easy as pie becausr of the disaster in New Orleans and the port area there. One part of the binary chemical is put into gas and combusts into the atmosphere. We allbreathe it and it gets stored up in our body fat .Then if they releas the OTHER half of the binary chemical, we all turn into ??????.

THAT is why they are experimenting with hte chemtrails because they want to perfect the delivery system of the binary trigger !

11-29-2005, 06:12 PM
Just saw a fucking all seeing eye in a cloud in the sky. A coincidence ? Probably. Or maybe I am spending too long at this site.
I took a picture when the thing was vanishing, but it still is very clear. Will post it tomorrow, when I will have access to the other PC.

11-30-2005, 03:36 AM
It took me 3 or 4 minutes to think about taking a picture, so the thing was vanishing by then. Anyway, the whole sky was taken by clouds (it had just showered) except for that part. But the freaking eye was still very clear, with a perfect iris, the lines of the eye and an eyebrow. Perfect in every way.

I really didn't think about an all seeing eye, I saw more of a face, especially because there was another beginning of an eye on the left. My kid said: look Dad, a frog.

I absolutely should cut my participation in this forum in half before I go insane :-?


11-30-2005, 03:50 AM
I think we need to take a step back and only look at the obvious facts; otherwise we'll be too receptive to these co-incidences. I donít think that a strange cloud formation is cause for alarm. When we see planes dropping chemicals into the sky, itís worth checking out.

But perhaps this was an omen.

11-30-2005, 04:45 AM
Alright, about CHEMICAL POISONING, I've got some info about the effects of heavy metals on the body. (chemtrails contain heavy metals - barium and aluminum).

"heavy metals disrupt metabolic function in two basic ways:

1. First, they accumulate and thereby disrupt function in vital organs and glands such as the heart, brain, kidneys, bone, liver, etc.
2. Second, they displace vital nutritional minerals from where they should be in the body to provide biological function. For example, enzymes are catalysts for virtually every biochemical reaction in all life-sustaining processes of metabolism. But instead of calcium being present in an enzyme reaction, lead or cadmium may be there in its place. Toxic metals can't fulfill the same role as the nutritional minerals, thus their presence becomes critically disruptive to enzyme activity.
Because their impact is at such a foundational level, heavy metals can be causal factors in literally any health problem.
This is graphically illustrated in the chart below, which summarizes the sources of each of the heavy metals as well as their adverse effects on the body."

"The possibility that aluminum exposure might be an etiological factor in Alzheimer's disease (AD) was raised by Klatzo et al. (1965) and Terry and Pena (1965) on observing neurofibrillar degeneration in rabbits following exposure of the central nervous system to aluminum salts. Aluminum exposure has been linked for some time to other health effects, especially osteomalacia (OM) (Ward et al. 1978) and encephalopathy (Alfrey et al. 1976) in patients on dialysis or total parenteral nutrition (TPN) (Klein et al. 1982a,1982b). Several epidemiological studies have provided evidence with respect to a possible link between aluminum in drinking water and dementia (Anonymous 1992).

neurotoxicity, aluminum accumulation in AD-affected brains, epidemiological studies, and some evidence of slowed progression of AD when treating patients with chelating agents."


(effects of barium in the body - LD)
changes in heart rhythm or paralysis.
Some people who did not seek medical treatment
soon after eating or drinking a very large amount of
barium have died. Some people who eat or drink
somewhat smaller amounts of barium for a short
period may experience vomiting, abdominal
cramps, diarrhea, difficulties in breathing, increased
or decreased blood pressure, numbness around the
face, and muscle weakness.

I quote form an annonymous post about "The secret agenda"

"An illusion it will be, so large, so vast it will escape their perception.
Those who will see it will be thought of as insane."

"We will use our knowledge of science and technology in subtle ways so they will never see what is happening.
We will use soft metals, aging accelerators and sedatives infood and water, also in the air.
They will be blanketed by poisons everywhere they turn.
The soft metals will cause them to lose their minds. We will promise to find a cure from our many fronts, yet we wil lfeed them more poison.
The poisons will be absorbed trough their skin and mouths,they will destroy their minds and reproductive systems.
From all this, their children will be born dead, and we will conceal this information.
The poisons will be hidden in everything that surrounds them,in what they drink, eat, breathe and wear.
We must be ingenious in dispensing the poisons for they can see far.
We will teach them that the poisons are good, with fun images and musical tones.
Those they look up to will help. We will enlist them to push our poisons.
They will see our products being used in film andwill grow accustomed to them and will never know their true effect.
When they give birth we will inject poisons into the blood of their children and convince them its for their help.
We will start early on, when their minds are young, we will target their children with what children love most, sweet things.
When their teeth decay we will fill them with metals that will kill their mind and steal their future.
When their ability to learn has been affected,we will create medicine that will make them sicker and cause other diseases for which we will create yet more medicine."

11-30-2005, 05:30 AM
I used to see normal trails from aircraft when i lived in Dongara half way up the West Oz coast. The aircraft were high and heading off to Bali and Asia in general.

We dont have the airtraffic or population to regularly see these trails.


Have been seeing them EVERYWHERE since i posted this pic on another thread...


I had just finished work Saturday week and decided to celebrate the new found employment with a beer. This was the carton the guy picked out to put my beers in.

I then tootled straight off to a friends house where he and my good Zionist Submarine programmer "Leon" had just got back from an airshow. Leon was wearing a shirt with an ALL SEEING EYE ON IT!!!!!! Today i was in the dole office and they had a carton from a office supplier with an ALL SEEING EYE ON IT!

I note that since i have been trying to get back into the mainstream the "co-incidences" have been coming on strong.

I believe something is up. The Lord Works In Mysterious Ways.

SAT...did i send you a pic of that guy with the shirt? If you have it send it back coz the "eye" on his shirt has the exact same shape as your "cloud eye". Look and see.

11-30-2005, 05:53 AM
Going off topic for a moment. As it has been stated by a couple of forumers regarding noticing 'The Eye' everywhere they go or look. The following may be of interest to you.

The reason is that once an object becomes important to you, you become aware of it, and you will seem to see it everywhere. This is due to your, Reticular Activating System or R.A.S. See below for an explanation.

Reticular Activating System

At the core of the brainstem is a collection of nuclei called the reticular formation.These nuclei receive input from most of the bodyís sensory systems (eg sight, smell, taste, etc) and other parts of the brain, such as the cerebellum and cerebral hemispheres.

Some neurons from the reticular formation project to meet motor neurons of the spinal cord and influence functions such as cardiovascular and respiratory control. In addition, there are also neurons projecting into most of the rest of the brain. The ascending fibres of the reticular formation form a network called the reticular activating system, which influence wakefulness, overall degree of arousal and consciousness Ė all factors which may be disturbed in depressed patients.

The brain and the different areas of the brain can be illustrated using images of the brain in different orientations or Ďsectionsí. The most commonly used sections are the mid-sagittal (simply, from front to back) and coronal sections.

Although extremely complex, the brain is largely made up of only two principal cell types: neurons and glial cells. There are over 100 000 million neurons in the brain and an even greater number of glial cells glial cells. It is estimated that there are more than 10 000 million cells in the cerebral cortex alone.

Brain Atlas (http://www.brainexplorer.org/brain_atlas/Brainatlas_index.shtml)

11-30-2005, 06:34 AM
No, TB, you haven't sent it.
This weird eye in the cloud has the shape of the Horus eye...the one where the eyebrow meets the eye...could it be a trick from a covert witch in the forum ? If it was, I guess having the ability to perform such a cheap trick is not a good price for your soul. (Yawn...) You will never pass thru Jesus' protection on this house, too.

Or probably it was nothing at all.

igwt (in God we trust?) is also right. Just see when you buy a new car, you suddenly see the same model everywhere. But the strange thing is that I seldom look thru the window, never try to see "figures" in the clouds and at first I didn't think about an eye, but I saw a face (there was a part of another eye, which with the horizontal line below formed an ugly face).

11-30-2005, 06:43 AM
http://www.members.iinet.net.au/~falluga/All Seeing Eye.jpg


No, i disagree IGWT and SAT.

I have been studying the notion of what Jung called "Synchronicity: An Acausal Connecting Principal" for the last 12 years. In synchronicity, two or more events seemingly unconnected in time and space are joined by the viewers finding "meaning" in them.

What you say is a "nothing but" and a reductionist response to what may be an important message that God is trying to give you.

Check out that pick. What are the chances that a hard core Zionist would have the same symbol on his shirt as my beer carrying carton?

What did the young Rabbi say to the Old Rabbi when regarding why no one heard the voice of God anymore?

11-30-2005, 06:50 AM
OK, TB. Yes, it depends on the context. God can and will use coincidences to get our attention. But it is always with an objective, to make us think, and usually to make us accept something that He has been trying to show us for some time. It works a lot with the Bible: you have a doubt, or an "intuition" about something and when you are reading some passage, the Holy Spirit will show you something in the Scriptures that makes it all fall together.

But we have to remember that, as usual, Satan mimicks everything God does...so the key here is to accept only coincidences that are compatible with the character of God and his teachings.

11-30-2005, 06:51 AM

To clarify re R.A.S. It doesn't mean it's in the mind. My understanding of it is this.

When you realize something, and it has importance, you become more...sensitized? This enables you to discern things others do not see in front their eyes 8-)

P.S. Thanks for posting the picture.

P.S.S. When I was 8 (very young at the time) I was given an American $1 bill. My eye was drawn to the pyramid and the 'eye in the triangle' and I asked my mother what it meant. If I recall correctly she said she understood it was Masonic.

11-30-2005, 06:53 AM
So my beer carton and Zionist T-Shirt dont count? :lol:

What does it all mean to me? What was my state of mind at the time? I was sick of all the conspiracy talk...was keen to get stuck into work and return to the mainstream. Maybe not...

If the eye appears in a tortia in Mexico..does that count? :lol: Why should the Mexicans get ALL the messages? :lol:

Check out the date...19/11 do do do do...

11-30-2005, 06:59 AM

It seems it was a clear message : "yes, this conspiracy thing is true and it is everywhere."
But what God wants you to do with that info, that's between you and Him...

11-30-2005, 07:16 AM

So, you haven't yet figured out the airborne conditioning-agent release program that is being operated by the government. I'll give you some hints, but first I'll give you a little information about myself. I'm a retired government scientist with an advanced degree in one of the health-related disciplines. I do not use my real name for fear of retaliation, either against me, or against members of my family. I always try to route my e-mail communications so that they appear to come from another source, usually from one somewhere within the government. Sometimes I use the internet resources of the public library - whatever it takes to hide my true identity and confuse those who don't want the sort of information I possess to fall into the public's hands.

I have a small circle of friends who are, or were, in key positions within our military and several government agencies. These are not the very top level personnel, but mid to upper mid-level people, scientists and analysts, who are in positions where they can see the day-to-day activities of what's going on, who are charged with implementing the details, but who are never quite privy to the schemes behind the work they do. Each of my contacts has been able to supply me with a portion of the puzzle, but separately, none of them understands the whole story. I'll tell you what I've pieced together so far. But I have to admit that this information frightens me because there is no place I can go with it. What am I supposed to do - write my congressman? I believe that would be like signing my own death warrant.

This whole chemtrail issue is related to the plan for decreasing the world population to around 450-500 million -- and starting with the US first. Why? The people of the US are the only ones with even the remotest chance of stopping this. That is, if they knew about it. That's why the US has to be the first to go. You have to understand that the world's elite covet the US for its geographic diversity - and they would love to return this country to its condition as it existed prior to Columbus setting foot here, but without the Native Americans this time of course. 20

You may have already heard how several national parks have been designated as world biospheres - that's the plan for all of North America, a giant nature park and playground that will be devoid of annoying human beings (that would be us). And the people actually involved in doing the spraying, as well as those who will take part in the rest of the plans, are being duped into believing they will be spared, that is, permitted to live and remain on this continent as administrators and caretakers of this vast nature preserve. I understand that about 150 to 200 thousand people are projected as necessary for maintenance purposes. But it's likely these people will not be Americans. Those in charge wouldn't want to risk the possibility of some sort of revolt, so the workers will probably be brought in from Europe and Asia.

There are rumors floating about the internet that the chemtrails are part of some sort of secret program the government is doing to protect the US from future biological attacks. Nothing could be further from the truth. The plan is to sensitize, or condition, the US population to being wiped out by influenza A. Over the past few years, people have been encouraged to get flu shots to protect them against the generally non-lethal strains that circulate through the population during flu season. 20

Each year the US government has guessed which strains were most likely to spread. They seem to always guess right - don't they? This flu season, the government protected people with a trivalent vaccine that included the A/Beijing/262/95-like (H1N1) and the A/Sydney/5/97-like (H3N2). It also contained the B/Beijing/184/93-like hemagglutinin antigens. For those not familiar with virology, the H and N refer to proteins on the outside of the virus, the hemagglutinin and neuraminidase, which are responsible for the virus attaching to, and then invading, a host cell. The public has been quite pleased with the success of the vaccines offered so far. But that will change in the future.

Researchers at the US Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (or USAMRIID) at Fort Detrick in Frederick MD have reconstructed and modified the H1N1 Spanish Flu virus, making it far more deadly than it ever was back when it was responsible for the 1918-1919 flu pandemic that killed over 20 million worldwide and over 500,000 here in the US. Consider that it could have killed many more, but back then, people couldn't hop on a jet and travel from New York to L.A. in five hours. Now, our ability to travel will increase the spread and will be our downfall.

The flu vaccines contain killed virus and protect the body well against challenge by that particular strain, but work poorly against other strains not included in the inoculation. At some point, the vaccine stockpile will include the more lethal modification of the 1918 H1N1 in its live form. Most people receiving this vaccine will simply be renewing their annual flu shot, and the vaccine will still include the inactivated version of the more benign form of H1N1 (as was included in this year's vaccine). The presence of the milder strain in the inoculum will slow down the progression of the more lethal H1N1 form, so people will become sick more slowly - but they will still eventually die. It will just take a few weeks longer.

In the meantime, they will be carriers for the lethal form of the virus, passing it on to everyone with whom they make contact. And as people hear that others are dropping dead from the flu, they will flock to get their own vaccination. And the entire population will be more receptive to infection because their lungs will have been pre-conditioned to guarantee it.

If you will remember back to 1968 and '69, the Hong Kong flu, which was influenza A type H3N2, killed over 30,000 people in the U.S. alone. That was a fortuitous learning event for some because it taught them that the flu could still conceivably be used to wipe out a population. But at the same time, it pointed out the need to precondition the populace so that those who might normally be resistant could be rendered susceptible. Hence the development of the vaccine program and the aerial spraying procedures to condition the population. The purpose of the chemicals in the chemtrails is to help the viral envelope fuse with lung cells, permitting easier penetration and infection.

But what about those few individuals who don't succumb to the flu? Probability alone demands that there will be some who survive - pockets of the population that are either not reached or somehow (and this is less likely) are resistant to the lethal H1N1 strain. At this point you must also remember that our military personnel have been immunized against a variety of pathogens, including the anthrax bacillus. 20

For those geographically isolated areas where the flu doesn't do its job, it's a fairly simple matter to lay down anthrax spores and then send in what's left of the military to take care of anyone still breathing. The anthrax spraying will probably come under the guise of a flu protection program to save those still alive after the epidemic. And the military, having been exposed to civilians with the flu, will eagerly await their own flu shots. I should emphasize that this is a last resort scenario. Those orchestrating the plan will not want to use anthrax until all other possibilities are exhausted - this because of the long-term viability of anthrax spores. To scatter them over the countryside would mean the area would be dangerous for use by humans, at least those not vaccinated against the bacteria.

And think about this for a moment. Why do you suppose agencies like Fish and Wildlife are so eager to reintroduce wolves and other species into areas of the country which haven't seen these animals for generations. It's all part of the plan to restore this land to what the elite envision as its early paradise-like state, with wild animals freely roaming the uninhabited plains and forests. Granted, it will take some time to clean up the place and to maybe destroy a lot of small towns that might otherwise be considered a blight on the landscape. But for the global elite it will be a small price for us to pay for their enjoyment.

Rense (http://www.rense.com/ufo6/darkhyp.htm)

11-30-2005, 07:35 AM
Posted by C.E. Carnicom on behalf of A Concerned Citizen
May 19 2000

For reasons you will understand as you read this I can not divulge my identity. I am an aircraft mechanic for a major airline. I work at one of our maintenance bases located at a large airport. I have discovered some information that I think you will find important.

First I should tell you something about the "pecking order" among mechanics. It is important to my story and to the cause to which you have dedicated yourself.

Mechanics want to work on three things. The avionics, the engines, or the flight controls. The mechanics that work on these systems are considered at the top of the "pecking order". Next come the mechanics that work on the hydraulics and air conditioning systems. Then come the ones who work on the galley and other non-essential systems. But at the very bottom of the list are the mechanics that work on the waste disposal systems. No mechanic wants to work on the pumps, tanks, and pipes that are used to store the waste from the lavatories.

But at every airport where I have worked there are always 2 or 3 mechanics that volunteer to work on the lavatory systems. The other mechanics are happy to let them do it. Because of this you will have only 2 or 3 mechanics that work on these systems at any one airport. No one pays much attention to these guys and no mechanic socializes with another mechanic who only works on the waste systems. In fact I had never thought much about this situation until last month.

Like most airlines we have reciprocal agreements with the other airlines that fly into this airport. If they have a problem with a plane one of our mechanics will take care of it. Likewise if one of our planes has a problem at an airport where the other airline has a maintenance base, they will fix our plane.

One day last month I was called out from our base to work on a plane for another airline. When I got the call the dispatcher did not know what the problem was. When I got to the plane I found out that the problem was in waste disposal system. There was nothing for me to do but to crawl in and fix the problem. When I got into the bay I realized that something was not right. There were more tanks, pumps, and pipes then should have been there. At first I assumed that the system had been changed. It had been 10 years since I had worked on one. As I tried to find the problem I quickly realized the extra piping and tanks were not connected to the waste disposal system. I had just discovered this when another mechanic from my company showed up. It was one of the mechanics who usually works on these systems. I happily turned the job over to him. As I was leaving I asked him about the extra equipment. He told me to "worry about my end of the plane and let him worry about his!"

The next day I was on the company computer to look up a wiring schematic. While I was there I decided to look up the extra equipment I had found. To my amazement the manuals did not show any of the extra equipment I had seen with my own eyes the day before. I even tied in to the manufacturer files and still found nothing. Now I was really determined to find out what that equipment did.

The next week we had three of our planes in our main hanger for periodic inspection. There are mechanics crawling all over a plane during these inspections. I had just finished my shift and I decided to have a look at the waste system on one of our planes. With all the mechanics around I figured that no one would notice an extra one on the plane. Sure enough, the plane I choose had the extra equipment!

I began to trace the system of pipes, pumps, and tanks. I found what appeared to be the control unit for the system. It was a standard looking avionics control box but it had no markings of any kind. I could trace the control wires from the box to the pumps and valves but there were no control circuits coming into the unit. The only wires coming into the unit was a power connection to the aircraft's main power bus.

The system had 1 large and 2 smaller tanks. It was hard to tell in the cramped compartment but it looked like the large tank could hold 50 gallons. The tanks were connected to a fill and drain valve that passed through the fuselage just behind the drain valve for the waste system. When I had a chance to look for this connection under the plane I found it cunningly hidden behind a panel under the panel used to access the waste drain.

I began to trace the piping from the pumps. These pipes lead to a network of small pipes that ended in the trailing edges of the wings and horizontal stabilizers. If you look closely at the wings of a large airplane you will see a set of wires, about the size of your finger, extending from the trailing edge of the wing surfaces. These are the static discharge wicks. They are used to dissipate the static electric charge that builds up on a plane in flight. I discovered that the pipes from this mystery system lead to every 1 out of 3 of these static discharge
wicks. These wicks had been "hollowed out" to allow whatever flows through these pipes to be discharged through these fake wicks.

It was while I was on the wing that one of the managers spotted me. He ordered me out of the hanger telling me that my shift was over and I had not been authorized any overtime.

The next couple of days were very busy and I had no time to continue my investigation. Late one afternoon, two days after my discovery, I was called to replace an engine temperature sensor on a plane due to take off in two hours. I finished the job and turned in the paperwork.

About 30 minutes later I was paged to see the General Manager. When I went in his office I found that our union rep and two others who I did not know were waiting on me. He told me that a serious problem had been discovered. He said that I was being written up and suspended for turning in false paperwork. He handed me a disciplinary form stating that I had turned in false paperwork on the engine temperature sensor I had installed a few hours before. I was floored and began to protest. I told them that this was ridiculous and that I had done this work. The union rep spoke up then and recommended that we take a look at the plane and see if we could straighten it all out. It was at this time that I asked who the other two men were. The GM told me that they were airline safety inspectors but would not give me their name.

We proceeded to the plane, which should have been in the air but was parked on our maintenance ramp. We opened the engine cowling and the union rep pulled the sensor. He checked the serial number and told everyone that it was the old instrument. We then went to the parts bay and went back into the racks. The union rep checked my report and pulled from the rack a sealed box. He opened the box and pulled out the engine temperature sensor with the serial number of the one I had installed. I was told that I was suspended for a week without pay and to leave immediately.

I sat at home the first day of my suspension wondering what the hell had happened to me. That evening I received a phone call. The voice told me "Now you know what happens to mechanics who poke around in things they shouldn't. The next time you start working on systems that are no concern of yours you will lose your job! As it is I'm feeling generous, I believe that you'll be able to go back to work soon" CLICK. Again I had to pick myself from off the floor. I made the connection that what had happened was directly connected to my tracing the mysterious piping. The next morning the General Manager called me. He said that due to my past excellent
employment record that the suspension had been reduced to one day and that I should report back to work immediately. The only thing I could think of was what are they trying to hide and who are THEY!

That day at work went by as if nothing had happened. None of the other mechanics mentioned the suspension and my union rep told me not to talk about it. That night I logged onto the Internet to try to find some answers. I don't remember now how I got there but I came across your site. That's when it all came together. But the next morning at work I found a note inside my locked locker. It said, "Curiosity killed the cat. Don't be looking at Internet sites that are no concern of yours."

Well that's it. THEY are watching me.

Well you already know what they are doing. I don't know what they are spraying but I can tell you how they are doing it. I figure they are using the "honey trucks". These are the trucks that empty the waste from the lavatory waste tanks. The airports usually contract out this job and nobody goes near these trucks. Who wants to stand next a truck full of sh--. While these guys are emptying the waste tanks they are filling the tanks of the spray system. They know the planes flight path so they probably program the control unit to start spraying some amount of time after the plane reaches a certain altitude. The spray nozzles in the fake static wicks are so small that no one in the plane would see a thing.

Carnicom (http://www.carnicom.com/mech1.htm)

11-30-2005, 07:43 AM
By Rima E. Laibow, MD
Nov. 5, 2005


Give Me Liberty OR They May Give Me Death

We are, I am sorry to tell you, facing a uniquely dangerous moment in our history. An industry with more money than sense and a government with more greed than patriotism are conspiring to take away your right to control your body, keep it safe and, if harmed, seek recompense from the corporation which harmed you.

I often write to you to alert you to important health and health freedom issues. This letter is an urgent notice about an immediate threat to your well-being and your liberty. If you do nothing else to safeguard your health freedom, I urge you to take action on this issue, pass this email to everyone you know and become a source of information and strength to everyone you know. If there ever was a time for activism, this is it.

The Threat's Name? S 1873

Link (http://educate-yourself.org/cn/compulsoryvaccinebill05nov05.shtml)

11-30-2005, 10:05 AM
I've heard similar tales, including the one about the EM sensor horn on the plane that was shot down near Korea.

I have three things that bother me about this:
1) If "They" have to police anyone who stumbles onto the stand-alone system you mention, they wouldn't have any time to do mechanics! It seems incredible that they would try this cheap tactic unless they are simple in the ways of containment and control.
2) Which leads me to another point: if secrecy is so important, why are the tanks, tubes, and controllers out in the open for anyone to examine?
3) Many agencies (if in fact one or more are involved) use epecially heavy-handed ways to discourage curiosity even about things which are of no harm to the public. These fellows of yours are probably just obeying their orders like robots. Nothing personal, and in fact they might be scared honeyless by the people using the equipment.

I truly appreciate the risk you take to relate these things and hope that you find others in your profession who can "watch your back."

11-30-2005, 11:14 AM
Thank you for the post igwt.

So now, they are dusting us with poisonous metals to make us more vulnerable to a lethal Influenza virus. The aim is to reduce the population. About 5% of us will survive. Animals will cover the earth again, and a few humans will live to enjoy the serenity and to get a tighter grip on 'power'. I wish this idea was far fetched, but history shows that we always make this assumption


So, what about getting some legitimate scientists to help? Perhaps we can combat the virus. We must find a way to muster the people. To show them what is happening, before itís too late.

11-30-2005, 11:29 AM
A number of years ago, a link was posted on the net to UNESCO map of US showing biosphere reserves. Some were commenting that in order to achieve the objective, the total US population level would have to substantially reduced. For example links to following maps:

SN (http://www.sovereignty.net/p/land/mapmabwh.htm)

UNESCO (http://www2.unesco.org/mab/br/brdir/europe-n/USAmap.htm)