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Akbar
11-30-2005, 12:37 PM
Why do American Negroes make so much fuss about the Rebel flag? They say that it was a symbol used by the southerners to cause fear and oppression. This is a blantant lie. The symbol used to cause fear and oppression to blacks is a burned cross. Why don't blacks condemn the cross like they do the rebel flag. It is because the cross is a symbol of their faith and the rebel flag is a symbol of independence for southern whites. The American Negro is ignorant to the fact that the symbol of Jesus and the cross reinforces white supremacy and black inferiority. The picture of a dead white man dying for the sins of gullible negroes is the greatest enslavement of the American Negroes. Until American Negroes free themselves from this type of belief they will always suffer from white supremacy and black inferiority. If Jesus is divine, then his race is also associated with divinity. So quite naturally one race have to be on top and the other one on the bottom. The conditions of the American Negro is proof that this belief has not led to the self determination and independence of the Negro. It has only made him a mental slave who is in a worst state of mind than his physically enslaved ancestors. The symbolism behind the cross holds great wisdom. Jesus dying on the cross symbolically means that he died in the natural state that God created for man, and that his message was intercepted and replaced with an unnatural message. The cross is also used as a way to control the masses, which the Egyptian cross represents. The cross looks like a human holding both feet together and both arms spreaded out. The Egyptian cross has a hole at the top similar to a key. The Egyptian cross is a secret science for the leaders on how to control the masses. In America, the cross represents the influences of two extremes. One is religion is taken to the extreme emotionally, and the other extreme is that any type of immoral act can take place in the name of individual freedom. Both extremes lead to the destruction of society, which is witnessed in the break up of the American family. You can also see how both these extremes cross by the role the Church is currently playing. The Church, which should be fighting to reinforce the foundation of the family is fighting within it's own ranks about the acceptance of homosexuality. So between the cross and the rebel flag, which symbol is the most dangerous? The winner of the tug a war between your brain and emotions will decide.

Thumper
11-30-2005, 12:42 PM
I thought Jesus was Jewish?

And if he did come across white, that was merely regional artists apropriating Him to their culture.

Akbar
11-30-2005, 01:01 PM
Jesus is Jewish, but whites separate him from being Jewish. An example is their history of antisemitism. Logic would state if Jesus was Jewish, how could you hate Jews. Jesus being pictured as white was used to unite the white race around one common cause. It was done to give whites a belief that would support them trying to rule the world. The people who gave the belief to whites did not give them all of the knowledge. They just wanted to use the whites, so they could control the world. Read the myth of Golem, which is a Jewish legend. They also allude to this in the movie Superman.

redrat11
11-30-2005, 03:40 PM
Akbar, Akbar, Akbar..... Your truly delusional! The very fact that the MUSLIM Brotherhood "RELIGION" now infesting Americas Prisons, and being pushed by the Satanic zionist cabal, makes your absurd post really weak. Its the simple case of DIVIDE and CONQUER the weak minded, MUSLIM Brotherhood movement has been trying for decades to gather strengh in America by brainwashing CHRISTIAN BLACKS, your post is all nonsense and most American blacks are and always will worship JESUS!

LaDominio
11-30-2005, 04:22 PM
Akbar wrote:
Jesus is Jewish, but whites separate him from being Jewish. An example is their history of antisemitism. Logic would state if Jesus was Jewish, how could you hate Jews.

Gosh, Jesus wasnít JEWISH, CHRISTIAN, MUSLIM, BHUDIST or ANYTHING! Jesus may have been born into a Jewish family, but he was smart enough to not BE Jewish.

I donít know why you would spin it that way Akbar, but thatís just plain nuts.


redrat11 wrote:
most American blacks are and always will worship JESUS!


Iíd like to correct that.

They will always LOVE Jesus. The worst thing you could do is worship ANYTHING. Jesus said this in the Bible. It is the book that you live by, so isnt it important that you get it right?

Akbar
11-30-2005, 06:56 PM
I guess in the tug a war between the brain and emotions. Emotions would win everytime with most people on this site.

Redrat11, most blacks who turn to Islam do not belong to the Muslim brotherhood. That is another rumor given by the NWO to fire up the emotions of ignorant whites. If blacks do continue to worship Jesus then they will always remain second class citizens. A lot of them are beginnig to think and are turning to Islam. Not the Islam of Osama Bin Laden and the majority of Arabs, which is satanic. They are turning to the Islam that is given by God himself as an answer to the call from their black ancestors.

LaDominio, you are the first Christian I know of to deny that Jesus was not a Jew. I guess the next thing you are going to say is that Jews did not create Christianity, which would say that all of the disciples were also not Jewish. Jewish law states that anyone born with a Jewish mother is Jewish and also Jesus himself stated that he came not to change the law of Judaism, but to uphold it. Jesus was not only Jewish, he was a militant Jew. In the Bible when a nonJewish person came to him for assistance, he rebuked her in the strongest terms.

Akbar
11-30-2005, 07:06 PM
It is amazing that neither redrat11 or LaDominio have rationally responded to my post. I made several statements in the post. If they are false then you should be able to respond to each statement with facts and references. You will notice in all of my post, I always reference something based on fact. Can anyone on this site do the same? Can anyone respond to my post with reason and not as an emotional cry baby?

55132
11-30-2005, 07:25 PM
Jeus was hebrew or isralite jews did not exist until the kazars came in. you must separtae both, i am not saying or implying that he was arayan.

besides it was the muslim who where the middlemen in the slave trade.

so i quess that negros should have a greater resentment against your people.

truebeliever
11-30-2005, 08:04 PM
AKBAR:

So which "race" was God supposed to incarnate into at that time?

Of course He incarnated into that particular place at that particular time as the Jews were the first to worship the unifying masculine principal called God. Who the hell else was God supposed to incarnate into at that time? Icelandic deer herders maybe?

Come on AKBAR, your being provocative. We know the Churches and Imperial Rome have used The Bible for their own ends. There are many inconsistencies...but not in the 4 Gospels.

If Militant Islam (and lately that seems to be Islam in general) continues to aggressively push an agenda in Christian countries, they will become hated. Another group will be very happy at that.

We can all stop trying to convert each other and simply live in peace. I could'nt care less if Joe Blow converts to Islam but he better not start telling the Abo's they should take up arms to get "their" country back which is happening here.

Islam has shown it's stupidity in my country for NOT yelling at the top of their lungs that violence will not be tolerated by ANYONE. Instead we have had half hearted denunciations with a smirk about bombings against tourists in Bali. Muslim leaders must condemn OUTRIGHT all violence including that of the so called co-alition in Iraq.

When an Islamic leader was asked if Muslims would report fellow Muslims who spoke of "terrorist activities" in Oz, he replied "We should all do that". [paraphrasing closely] Meaning why are you asking specifically Muslims do that? This was a STUPID response and in fact was EVASIVE when the answer was QUITE clear.

"Yes! ALL good Muslims will report IMMEDIATELY ANY activities involving violence against fellow Australians".

That should of been the reply. Time and again local leaders have evaded and spoken clever responses to direct questions. This does not go down well with people here.

Christian Australians have marched in the hundreds of thousands against the war in Iraq and the murder of innocent Iraq's. By head of population NO other country mustered as many people in fact Oz was far ahead.

The Churches in Oz are UNITED in their opposition to the war and the oppression of Palestinians and have in fact called for a boycott of Israeli goods.

Is'nt that good enough AKBAR?

The West has MANY problems. But you know what? Lets see ya speak out in Iraq "then", and "now".

Lets see ya speak out in Malaysia? Lets see you speak out in Indonesia? Lets see you speak out in the M.E in general.

Time for Islam to grow up and get a little "sophisticated" in it's reactions to provacation by people who want to see them wiped out.

Saturnino
12-01-2005, 04:41 AM
Of course Jesus was a Jew. The Jewish race was created by God by calling Abraham in order to prepare the way for Jesus to be born. All the Laws they had were a shadow of the things to come, lessons to be learned.

Jesus never denied the Old Testament. he came to fulfill it, to implement a better "second-phase" to it.

Since Jesus' death and ressurection at the cross, a new covenant was established, and Jews and gentiles became the same in the eyes of God.

Mat 5:17 Think3543 not3361 that3754 I am come2064 to destroy2647 the3588 law,3551 or2228 the3588 prophets:4396 I am not3756 come2064 to destroy,2647 but235 to fulfill.4137 (Jesus speaking)

For those who want to understand better this issue, read the book of Hebrews.

Akbar
12-03-2005, 03:15 AM
55132,
You need to study history better. Both of your responses are defeated by history and reason.

Thumper
12-03-2005, 03:23 AM
Akbar wrote:
Jesus is Jewish, but whites separate him from being Jewish. An example is their history of antisemitism. Logic would state if Jesus was Jewish, how could you hate Jews. Jesus being pictured as white was used to unite the white race around one common cause. It was done to give whites a belief that would support them trying to rule the world. The people who gave the belief to whites did not give them all of the knowledge. They just wanted to use the whites, so they could control the world. Read the myth of Golem, which is a Jewish legend. They also allude to this in the movie Superman.

anti-semitism is usually confused with freemasonry and the banking system (which is predominantly Jewish). It has almost nothing to do with 'jews killing christ'.

As well, you need to stop obsessing about white people and their attitudes and how it has power over your whole life. I've seen black Jesus figures too, as well as hispanic ones, no big deal. It's simply a matter of the regional culture.

Akbar
12-03-2005, 03:33 AM
truebeliever,
In answer to your question "which "race" was God supposed to incarnate into at that time"?
My post is to shed light on how absurd it would be for God to incarnate in human form because it only leads to reinforcing race superiority. It seems that white Christians like to be treated as individuals, but treat everyone else as a group. If one person in that group commits a bad act then the entire group is responsible. What typ of of intelligence is this? When I share the history of your race you state that it was either before your time or that you should be judged as an individual. When a nonwhite commits an act then it is the entire group that is responsible. So since it is the mentality of whites to label groups of people based on the actions of one member of the group then we must do the same for whites. History paints a more harsher picture of the evils of white Christians than it does any other race or religion. As far as the slave trade, West Africans speak more harsher of the evil of the whites in the slave trade. They do not mention Arabs being involved in the slave trade in West Africa. In fact they mention that more of their own people were involved in it. Africa is in worst (mental)slavery now than they were back then. This slavery is under the West not Arabs or Muslims.

Akbar
12-03-2005, 03:44 AM
Saturnino,
In your statement "Jesus never denied the Old Testament. he came to fulfill it, to implement a better "second-phase" to it". The part to implement a better second-phase is changing it. He did not come to implement a better second phase to it. He came to get the people to practice it in spirit and not just by the letter of the law. The people were living like we are today, just practicing empty rituals and not loving our fellow man. Jesus came to teach that the most important thing is to practice the essence of the religion and not put too much emphasis on just the rituals. In fact it is this type of movement that is going to save the entire world.

Akbar
12-03-2005, 03:52 AM
Thumper,
The initial picture given to nonwhites were of a white Jesus. This is still the most dominate picture in most nonwhite communities. Some have replaced it for a picture of their own race, but the damage has been done. nonwhites have not been able to improve themselves under a picture of a white Jesus or one of their own race. My point is that it has not helped to progress their race like it has the whites. This is why I say that Christianity is a white man's religion because it is the only race that has benefitted from it.