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Akbar
12-20-2005, 08:54 PM
Why can't whites live in peace with other races? It seems with some NWO race propaganda and alcohol, whites would destroy anything nonwhite. Why do whites have such an evil history? Are whites trying to start a race war? Is Australia the starting point? Lets read and find out...............

Australia soul-searching over racial violence

By Michelle Nichols
Reuters
Tuesday, December 20, 2005; 12:26 AM



CANBERRA (Reuters) - Australia was soul-searching on Tuesday over the racial violence that has gripped Sydney's beachside suburbs with an opinion poll showing three-quarters of Australians believe their country is racist.

The ACNielsen poll, published in The Sydney Morning Herald newspaper, prompted Prime Minister John Howard to say for the first time that racial tensions had played a hand in the violence, though he denied most Australians were racist.

"There are some people in the Australian community who are racist, but I do not believe the average Australian is a racist," Howard told Australian television.

"Clearly there are some tensions which can be defined by race," said Howard, who had earlier labeled the Sydney violence as primarily a law and order problem.

But a poll by Australia's Sky TV found a clear majority of people (79 percent to 21 percent) believed Howard is misjudging the national character.

The southern Sydney beach of Cronulla, a mainly white community, erupted into rioting on December 11 when a large crowd, whipped up by white supremacists and fueled by alcohol, turned on anyone of Middle East appearance.

The crowd said they were defending their beach from ethnic Lebanese youth whom they blamed for a recent attack on life guards. Lebanese youths retaliated over two nights, attacking people and vandalizing cars in several suburbs.

Although calm returned to Sydney late last week, mobile-phone text messages have called for more racial violence and police manning seaside roadblocks seized an array of crude weapons, from petrol bombs to iron bars, and made dozens of arrests.

New South Wales state premier Morris Iemma, who recalled parliament last week to give police extra powers to quell the violence, said police were investigating white supremacist videos on the Internet showing beatings and carrying slogans like "Not White, not welcome in Cronulla."

But University of Western Sydney academic Andrew Moore, a specialist in right-wing Australian politics, said white supremacists were not the driving force behind the beachside violence and had instead just taken advantage of it.

"The (extreme) right in Australia is pretty small, pretty disorganized. Once the violence has happened they have derived a lot of oxygen from it," he told Reuters.

HISTORY OF RACISM

Moore said he was "mystified" by Howard's remark that Australia was not racist.

"Australia does have a racist history and a history of race violence," he said, pointing to riots aimed at southern Europeans in the gold-mining town of Kalgoorlie in 1934.

Chinese immigrants were also the target of racial violence on Australian goldfields during the 1800s, while European settlers tried to wipe out Australia's Aborigines in some areas.

Australia is a nation built on migrants, where 200 languages are spoken, and one in four out of the 20 million population was born overseas.

Iemma, the son of Italian immigrants who arrived in the 1960s, agreed with Howard that Australia is not racist, but has slammed the Sydney violence as racially fueled.

"From my upbringing, I don't believe Australia is a racist country or Australians are racist," Iemma told reporters.

The ACNielsen poll showed that nearly 60 percent of Australians believed the recent violence had hurt the country's international reputation.

But Howard warned against over-reaction and said any harm to Australia's reputation would be "ridden out."

In the biggest security operation since the Sydney 2000 Olympics, some 2,000 police patrolled beaches last Sunday. Beaches, normally packed with tourists a week before Christmas, were almost deserted and beachside cafes were half empty.

The security crackdown is set to continue over Christmas to deal with the threat of ongoing violence.

© 2005 Reuters

this
12-20-2005, 10:04 PM
Akbar wrote: Why can't whites live in peace with other races?

Jeez I don't know. But then, I live in Canada.

I can't think of a single race that doesn't have a history of tribal warfare.

Shannow
12-21-2005, 12:22 AM
Akbar,
the people of Sydney have become sick of middle eastern descent youths who profess to be of the muslim faith pack raping "Skippy" (Australian) teenage girls (5 and 6 repeatedly on a single 15/16 year old girl.

These people then display vile and threatening behaviour when in the court-room, and have no sympathy/remorse.

They are also displaying thuggish behaviour, beating volunteer lifeguards.

They've been getting away scott free for years, with the Police doing little to arrest/stop them...failure to stop them could be construed as supporting, and therefore propogating their "anti-white" behaviour. The Police know that they will pull their "minority status" card anyway.

A bunch of "Skippy's" decided to show them that they couldn't do this all of the time. It was wrong, and the white supremecists are making hay from the chaos.

But if the allegedly muslim youths of Arab decent hadn't been bullying, raping, intimidating, and being general arseholes, and the Police came down hard on themthere would be no headlines now.

Why can't these people who move to Australia leave their violence, and gangland activities in the countries that they are escaping from ?

Thumper
12-21-2005, 03:32 AM
Akhbar, how favoribly do non-western countries look upon mass immigration and multi-culturalism?

Look at indonesia and the chinese lynchings or the white populations being genocided in Africa. If anything, whites are the most tolerant (apathetic) or maybe just brainwashed.

Living in peaceful coexistence with people is not a problem, imposing your agenda through mass immigration, forced integration, and government statism is another issue altogether.

As well, 'white supremacist' is exactly the term that the mass media uses. It's basically the equivalent of calling Iraqi insurgents, "terrorists" or someone against the new world religion or homosexuality a 'bigot' or 'hater'. the illuminati hates any identity apart from the proscribed One Worldism and tries to destroy these, as Dr. Makow wrote about, especially in terms of religion, gender, family, nation, and race.

their heresy labels are used whenever someone doesn't go according to their program. i thought we were all on the same page with this :-P :-o

Akbar
12-21-2005, 12:36 PM
Why the generalization? If a nonwhite commits a criminal act against a white, then white mobs attack all nonwhites. This type of action is beyond reason. It is find to love your own race, but the problem comes when whites start attacking nonwhites simply because they are different. The random attacks on whites by nonwhites is retalition for a history of violence by whites. It is all leading to the day when the white bully will be defeated just like Goliath in the Bible. Whites make of the body of the NWO and the Jews are the brain.

Marsali
12-21-2005, 12:58 PM
Akbar,

You ask questions such as..."Why do whites have such an evil history?", and "Are whites trying to start a race war?"
But you seem to have no interest in the answers that forum members address to you. This would seem to mean that you aren't interested in answers, but you only want to constantly put out the questions, so that we will get it into our heads that whites are bad. You unceasingly harp on this without end. It's childish.

Thumper
12-21-2005, 02:00 PM
Akbar wrote:
Why the generalization? If a nonwhite commits a criminal act against a white, then white mobs attack all nonwhites. This type of action is beyond reason. It is find to love your own race, but the problem comes when whites start attacking nonwhites simply because they are different. The random attacks on whites by nonwhites is retalition for a history of violence by whites. It is all leading to the day when the white bully will be defeated just like Goliath in the Bible. Whites make of the body of the NWO and the Jews are the brain.

The same thing happens in non-white communities as well. Look at the race riots that happened in Cincinatti when a black criminal was shot by police.

As for the lebanese rape attacks, I highly doubt it has anything to do with 'post-colonialism syndrome' or anything like that. Not everyone walks around with a huge chip on their shoulder ruminating about what another groups ancestors did to their ancestors (you don't see British Celts hating Italian people for being dominated during the Roman era, do you? of course not), especially when one considers that Australia never did anything towards the middle eastern countries.

Basically, I think the illuminati imported some very violent immigrants to stir the pot (just like how FEMA recruits criminals) and now they have their desired effect.

Thumper
12-21-2005, 02:04 PM
Whites make of the body of the NWO and the Jews are the brain.

true statement, but it doesn't apply to all whites or all jews. most of us are innocent. :-(

Akbar
12-21-2005, 02:10 PM
Marsali,
It seems that when you do not have anything intelligent to say so start personal attacks. I stand behind all of my posts. Just because some one respond does not mean that the question was answered. You always seem to suggest when I ask something about whites that it is an attack. Where were you when white racists were attacking both nonwhites and Muslims on this site beyond end? Now, when I come on with an alternative viewpoint. You see it as an attack on whites. That's like a rapist calling a saint evil. You need to look in your own mirror and observed the history of violence against humanity from your race. This is not an attack. It is reality.

Marsali
12-21-2005, 02:16 PM
Just when was it that supposed white racists were attacking nonwhites and Muslims here without provocation?

Marsali
12-21-2005, 02:48 PM
Thumper brought up an excellent point about 'not everyone walks around with a huge chip on their shoulder ruminating about what another groups ancestors did to their ancestors.'

If you could just respond in a sincere manner to a practical statement such as this, Akbar, maybe we would get somewhere in this situation.

When I look in the mirror, I don't see the face of a slaveowner. Not one white person in this country living today has ever owned a slave. Not one black person living in this country was ever a slave here. Some of my ancestors were slaveowners, and some were also slaves (white slaves; before there were black slaves, most of the slaves were white).

How many whites are really completely white? How many blacks are completely black? Are you completely black, Akbar? If so, you are a rarity. Unless, of course, you weren't born in this country.

A black conservative American named Thomas Sowell has written a few books on the race issue. I don't know if he still does this, but he used to send out a certificate (to any white person who asked for it) which stated that the said white person is 'hereby absolved of all white guilt.'

We are not responsible for anything that our ancestors may have done, good or bad.

Akbar
12-21-2005, 07:27 PM
There is no point to make whites feel guilty for slavery. The fact is that you have benefitted from slavery. First, slavery dehumanized blacks in America for over 200 years. Also, blacks had to suffer extreme racial bariers up until 1965. It was not until that time that blacks had equal access to resources as whites. So basically, whites have had a head start to success, while blacks had to reconnect the family bonds that were destroyed due to slavery. Most blacks have still not recovered from this judging from the poor condition of the black family in America. Thomas Sowell is an "Uncle Tom". So anything coming from him is just like it is coming from American Renaissance. So the fact is that you did not have to own slaves to benefit from slavery. As long as you are white you benefitted from it due to"white privilege".

Thumper
12-21-2005, 07:32 PM
according to another poster on this site (crowneagel?), black society was actually quite robust and independent before 1965.

the thing that hurt blacks the most was the welfare state (which hurts all races, just look at the booze hardened generation in Russia) and the importation of cocaine by the CIA.

I'm not denying that blacks are under attack, but they have to properly identify their enemies first. And that would the welfare liberal pimps who program them to fail by teaching them to spend all their time and energy hating mainstream white people and depending on them, instead of being proud and independent like they once were.

Akbar
12-21-2005, 07:59 PM
Yes, Thumper you are correct. Blacks were doing quite well before intergration. White leaders feared that blacks would become too independent and successful in America. So they championed the civil rights movement. Whites had a choice of selecting between having blacks as dependent children through the civil rights movement or as independent, self sufficient, adults through the do for self movement of the honorable Elijah Muhammed. The white leaders chose the civil rights movement. The civil rights movement has been used as a trojan horse to destroy the fabic of America. Even gays belong to the civil rights movement because they feel they too should get special treament for a sex act. Sadly, the civil rights movement has turned into a horse and pony show. Blacks leaders only beat the drums of civil rights because they would be unemployed without it.

this
12-21-2005, 11:23 PM
Akhbar, you seem to see everything through the lens of colour. You do not see the people underneath the colour. You feel you have reason to hate white people.

What's that saying? Judge not someone till you have walked a mile in their shoes. You see every white person as a relative of a KKK member. That's retarded. That's like walking up to a black guy and assuming he's a pro athlete (or a relative of one).

As I pointed out before, if you could see through your rage, every race has a history of tribal violence and war. Your race, whatever it is, was immune from that? How well do you know of your distant ancestral history? Modern history is a but a blip in time, a snapshot.

Khopesh
12-22-2005, 01:13 AM
I dont think I noticed any white supremisists on the news footage just ordinary Aussies and a lot of girls who have had it with being beated raped and murdered by middle eastern shitbags.

Saying these people are white supremisists is like describing all middle eastern people as terrorists or rapists?
It aint that easy mate.

The facts of the matter are this group of people concentrated in the western suburbs of Sydney and parts of most of the major cities in Australia have been causing major havoc for years (Terrorism?).

It is political that these criminals have gone unpunished and left to spread their spite unabated thus causing the groundswell reaction at Cronulla by the ordinary people who live there.
No doubt in the future it may be possible to try police and politicians who have been complicite in this rape of the Australian way under the new sedition laws!
I wonder how fun the multiculturalists would find it being locked up in Barrwon with their Leb mates and political masters?

In any case i doubt very much if this has finished
and even the media bullshit spin that the ordinary people of Cronulla are white supreamisists for standing up for themselves and waving the Aussie flag, I even heard one idiot (a woman) on the media saying that waving the Australian flag should be banned, id like to see those type of people deported to a place like Lebenon and then maybee they would apreciate Australia and realise how they are destroying it.

Draken
12-22-2005, 01:16 AM
Here's a post from another forum regarding the Lebanese mentality:


Let me first introduce myself, my name is Muhammed and I born in Lebanon in 1965. I left Lebanon in 1984 and have lived in Europe for the last 20 years. My father is Palestinian and my mother is Lebanese and my two grandmothers are also Lebanese.
You would expect that I will defend the Lebanese, but I will try to be objective. I have to confess that I have never been to Australia, but I believe that I understand the Lebanese mentality in such a way that makes me able to analyze their problems.

Let us start with a historical background. Lebanon is created by the French colony in 1921. The name “Lebanon” is a name for a mountain and actually that area of land had always been under Syrian or Palestine. It is a collection of different groups, clans and sects. It contains all kinds of religions and nationalities, Moslems (Sunni, Shiite,.), Christians(Maronite, Catholic, ..), Druze, Arabs and non-Arabs( Armenian, Kurds, ..). During the history, these small groups have always fought against each other to get more power and influence. Many of these groups have an old tradition of immigration seeking for new opportunities.

Lebanese (across all their races and religions) like very much to immigrate in order to improve their standard of life and they rarely return back. There is no problem about that, but the problem is by the way and criteria that they measure their success. If a Lebanese returns back, he/she will be evaluated by the amount of money that he/she collected regardless for the source of the money. A man with one million $ from selling drugs is 10 times better than a hard worker one with hundred thousands $.

Lebanese always accuse others for their internal problems and conflicts. They hate Syrians, Palestinians, other Arabs and each other. They demand their rights in the countries they immigrate to. However, they deprive 300,000 Palestinian refugees from their basic civil rights. Palestinians in Lebanon have no right to work or even to buy an apartment and they treated with no respect. You can refer to the thousands of reports from human rights organization about the discrimination of Palestinian refugees in Lebanon.

I am confident that the root cause of the Lebanese problem in Australia, Canada or Switzerland has nothing to do with religion or race rather than a mentality problem. Lebanese have to respect and treat others well before they ask others to be treated well. Lebanese should have the courage to recognize their problems and try to solve them before it getting really bad.

http://cracker.com.au/viewthread.aspx?categoryid=11121&threadid=94719&flagged=1#94719

Thumper
12-22-2005, 01:33 AM
I also HEAVILY SUSPECT that Europe and perhaps Australia are importing hardcore criminals, in exactly the way Hitler recruited brown shirts from the prisons, just as FEMA did as recently as New Orleans, etc. They use these people as the catalyst for social engineering.

In Canada we have one the highest immigration rates, and while we do have integration problems, we don't NEARLY have the same problems of jihad fomenting in ghettoes, or 'no go zones' for western women, or general lawlessness/race riots.

This is all intentional.

Draken
12-22-2005, 03:07 AM
The manipulation and mobilization of the brainwashed, mind controlled, criminal and violent sub-human masses for the purpose of destroying law and order, culture and tradition is a textbook modus operandi of the Satanic forces of International Bolshevism.

Akbar
12-22-2005, 12:30 PM
This,
All whites may not be able to trace their family history to a KKK member, but they can trace their entire existence on a societal system that gives them special privilege based on race. Sure you may not have any relatives that are KKK members or were slaveowners, but you are an accomplice to the crime by the fact that you benefit by white privilege. You see the reality of life in America paints a picture of a place that privilege is based on the color of your skin. Blacks are routinely discriminated against in the areas of housing, health insurance, life insurance, auto insurance, securing credit, visiting stores, social security, education. Basically, in all areas of life in America, blacks are treated less fairly than whites. Also, wealth does not play too much of a role, as Oprah was denied access to a high fashion store in Europe. They thought she was just another black person.

Akbar
12-22-2005, 12:45 PM
Khopesh,
I'm sure the Aborigines can make a better case against the Aussies being terrorist than the Arabs. I don't think the Aborigines took it upon themselves to attack all Aussies for their treatment of them. What makes the Aussies so special. Oh! I forgot. "White privilege". It seems that whites can attack an entire race of people for an act of a few of them and call it justice. If another race did the same thing that race would be called evil. Why do whites attack all of the nonwhites for the actions of a few? To me it seems to be evil, but to you it is a normal way of life.

Thumper
12-22-2005, 01:01 PM
Akbar, discrimination happens everywhere and to everyone. 'white privilege' is simply a function of white people living in their own society. In Liberia, non-blacks aren't allowed to own property or become full citizens; therefore, that country has 'black privilege'. I'm sure it's the same with most non-western countries, like Korea or Japan, which I don't have a problem with.

your mission should not be to try to be validated by all whites, but rather to bring your people to a level where they don't have to rely on that. In the case of blacks being discriminated, from say, a private club or restaurant, we have two options. Do you petition to be accepted, or do you set up your own establishment? Which is the greater moral victory?

We have to stop equating white society with HUMAN SOCIETY. As if to say that any minority that doesn't have full acceptance from white people cannot develop into a full human being. You give whites way too much credit, and you're selling yourself short. This is the sick kind of interdependece that liberals have been pushing for decades, and as you can see, it creates lots of resentment.

I think if it weren't for the welfare state and other factors that were deliberately engineered blacks and other minorities wouldn't be in the position that they are in. But at the same time, we have to stop believing in liberal propaganda that white acceptance is the key to prosperity. It puts whites at a higher level, and everyone else in the dependent role.

Akbar
12-22-2005, 02:35 PM
Thumper,
I do not depend on the validation of whites. My posts are only to shed light on some of the evils committed by whites. It seems that most people on this site only see the crimes of other races and not their own. I don't think that blacks are looking for white acceptance when they speak out against a racist system. We all should speak out against injustice. Isn't this the way of Jesus? Blacks are not looking for a handout. They only want all people to join them in the fight against injustice even if it is against their own race. Sitting on the sidelines only makes you an accomplice to the crimes of injustice. When blacks seek whites to be just, it does not mean that whites are superior. It only means that they are human when they become just. You are making too many excuses. It's like if someone jumped off a bridge. Will you also follow simply because they did it? Decribing the discrimination in other countries is a cop out. I do not compare America to any other country. We should strive to be the best and become a beacon of light to the other countries. It seems that you are stating that it is okay for whites to discriminate in America because America is a white country. What about the Native Americans who were killed for the country and the blacks who built it?

angle
12-22-2005, 03:16 PM
Akbar wrote:
It seems that whites can attack an entire race of people for an act of a few of them and call it justice. If another race did the same thing that race would be called evil. Why do whites attack all of the nonwhites for the actions of a few?

I know I don't post here much but I suggest you read up on the recent Birmingham riots in England.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Birmingham_riots

These riots were worse than the ones in Australia and there wasn't a white person involved, unless you count the police that is.

Akbar
12-23-2005, 09:35 AM
Angle,
Welcome aboard! I see your point. There is no need for me to continue to harp on this issue.