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Akbar
12-29-2005, 03:01 PM
Does anyone know of any research done to compare the increase in the popularity of homosexuality and the decline in birth rates during the same period? I feel that homosexuality is not only a form of population control, but also anti-family. Entire families are broken up when a person choose this lifestyle. I know we have some rainbow people on this site maybe you can weigh in.

Ozziecynic
12-29-2005, 03:34 PM
:-? Why are so many Muslims closet Homos then i ve read Salman Rushdies "satanic versus" you know!. 8-)

Akbar
12-29-2005, 07:22 PM
I assume that you are homo, because this is the first that I heard of you and you have only come out of the wood work after I called out homos to respond to my post. Do not be ashamed of who you are. Stop hiding and come into the light. Also, try to intelligently respond to my post if you can.

Bouncer
12-30-2005, 12:14 PM
Note also the interest in creating stable households; if a gay or lesbian couple wants to commit and have a family (through adoption, etc.) then perhaps the decline in births is not sensitive to an increase in the homosexual population.

Ozziecynic
12-30-2005, 09:43 PM
Akbar:
Nope you guessed wrong!. Now how about answering the Question!.

btw:Rather arrogant to label yourself "Great" dont you think and I am sure God(akbar) would have some interesting things to say to your conceited soul!.

Happy new jihad to you!

Akbar
01-01-2006, 10:19 AM
Ozziecynic,
It seems strange that when I asked for a rainbow to respond you answered. Also, their apparently are some rainbows that call themselves Muslim. You may be intelligent enough to know that they are not acceptable as Muslims, but you Nazis do accept them. Apparently, Hitler was a rainbow.

Insider
01-01-2006, 08:27 PM
Italian tourists seized in Yemen
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4573646.stm

Ozziecynic
01-03-2006, 03:46 AM
Akbar
but you Nazis do accept them. Apparently, Hitler was a rainbow.
:-? Who said I was a Nazi? I bet you dont even realise the word Nazi with the Z is the US aberration of the word which should be spelt Nasi with an S do you even know what Nasi is an abbrevation of?. :-?

Btw no other posters answer this for akbar i want to see if he is smart enough to figure it out on his own!. :-D

Akbar
01-04-2006, 10:20 AM
Ozzie,
I took your challenge to another level. Read my post in reference to the word Nazi, and then you post your version.

Bouncer
01-04-2006, 11:39 AM
Apparently by more than a few sources, the SS and other Nasi organizations accepted and even encouraged homosexuality but only with a masculine and aggressive style. The effeminate were branded "inferior" and were fed to the extermination and experimentation machines.

Ozziecynic
01-07-2006, 12:09 AM
Bouncer;
:-? Apparently by more than a few sources, the SS and other Nasi organizations accepted and even encouraged homosexuality but only with a masculine and aggressive style. The effeminate were branded "inferior" and were fed to the extermination and experimentation machines.
:-? I remain sceptical of these kind of claims until you show me the links if online ones where you got this information!.
Ive heard all these kind of claims before and usually find they completely unfounded Hollywood revisionist style crap to smear the many decent and noble qualities of the Nasi regime.The smears are usually by yids ofcasue!. :-?

Akbar
01-10-2006, 04:20 PM
Oz,
If you are not a Nazi or rainbow, why do you defend them so much?

madcow
01-10-2006, 05:43 PM
Abu Dawud, Book 32, Number 4028:
Narrated AbuAmir or AbuMalik:
AbdurRahman ibn Ghanam al-Ash'ari said: AbuAmir or AbuMalik told me--I swear by Allah another oath that he did not believe me that he heard the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) say: THERE WILL BE AMONG MY COMMUNITY PEOPLE WHO WILL MAKE LAWFUL (THE USE OF) KHAZZ AND SILK. SOME OF THEM WILL BE TRANSFORMED INTO APES AND SWINE."

Akbar
01-11-2006, 06:20 PM
Madcow, the Christian spook who sat by the door!

madcow
01-11-2006, 09:08 PM
Islam and Terrorism
Quran 9.29 "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day ... "
Islam contains a large amount of intense venemous hatred for non-muslims. Quran and Hadith are filled with this hatred, which has always been easily tranformed into physical violence since the creation of Islam. Mohammed himself was a terrorist in his time, when he ordered to kill those who left Islam. He took part in many battles against people just for the reason they did not accept Islam.

Akbar
01-12-2006, 07:12 PM
Does homosexuality stop population growth?

nazgjunk
01-28-2006, 03:59 PM
That is what surprised me here... Of course there is a connection between homosexuality and a drop in birth rate. Gays cant have kids, can they? Of course, through adoption, but that has nothing to do with the birth rate.

Oh, as to the word "nazi"... I am half german, and very certain "nazi" is the only "correct" form, if one can call such a word correct.

Since i am new here, by the way, could anyone tell me what is meant by a "rainbow"? Just curious.

Ozziecynic
01-28-2006, 07:35 PM
Oh, as to the word "nazi"... I am half german, and very certain "nazi" is the only "correct" form, if one can call such a word correct.
:-? Well i dont know German but if the German word for Socialism starts with Z then you are correct and I am mistaken so far as german goes.
However in English its definately translated as National Socialism with an S otherwise it would be National Zocialism get my drift!. :-?

redrat11
01-28-2006, 09:29 PM
http://www.clubconspiracy.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2877&forum=3&post_id=24510#forumpost24510 :-?





whoopee just hit my 200th post, time for a brewsky.......

blackstarr
02-10-2006, 10:35 AM
Yes, homosexuality can be viewed as a part of population control. The issue is that some homos have children before they dicover that they were born gay.

02-13-2006, 09:44 AM
as a mongolian tree monkey, i find that in bad taste.

blackstarr
02-13-2006, 02:33 PM
Mongo,
Are you saying that you are a primate or just a homo?

Akbar
02-14-2006, 07:26 AM
black,
Yes, I have also seen occasions were rainbows have children before they find out that they were born gay. I think the overall promotion of that lifestyle is for population control. The question is would they have had more children before the world convinced them that they were born gay?

blackstarr
02-15-2006, 08:24 PM
Akbar,
Maybe we can get mongo to answer that question. He emailed me to say he was a gay primate.

littlejohn
02-17-2006, 06:48 PM
Thier is definatly a link and it was promoted. I dont know of any public studies on the subject but I will qoute a former post of mine I titaled "Soy transgender and the NWO"



I thought I'd share a good link I came accross a while back about homosexuality/lesbianism/transgender and phytoestrogens especialy those in soy. Its a link with several articles in it on the subject. be sure you dont miss the fictional story on the bottom if you like macrbe humor ;)

http://www.senselessplanet.com/soyhomo.htm

Also a link about the promotion of homosexualty for birth control.

http://www.inoohr.org/worldpopulationcontrolpromote.htm






I am unable to open the second link there is it just me or has it been blocked?

Many people are born or soon become transgendered but its not natural its from exposure to pytoestrogens either in the womb or shortly after. You get these in your diet from soy products and anything that has been sprayed with herbacides especialy wheat they use it to rush ripening.
Edit: Oh and dont forget the phytoestogens in plasics you know like the stuff most little kids toys are made of

Akbar
02-19-2006, 03:09 PM
Thanks LittleJohn for the information. Yes, homosexuality has been around for centuries, but the question is why is the media pushing it on us 24 hours a day. Now Hollyweird is getting blantant with it's promotion of homosexuality. You have brokeback mountain and now you have She's the man.

littlejohn
02-19-2006, 04:22 PM
Well either that second link is gone or blocked I still cant get in. And I did some google searches and cant come up with anything on it either.
From what I remember it talked about a big meeting in Australia where promoteing homosexuality was talked about amoung the world eletes as well as other strategies FOR BIRTH CONTROL PUROSES! (perhaps not a smoking gun but to many coincidences for me to believe its an accident). Then within a couple years homosexuals started being promoted into everything and their lifestyle was pushed. Gay rights ect...
Also about the same time soybeans were being promoted and Jeb Bush built his famous worlds largest soybean farm in Brazil (it was sold when he ran for gov. I believe).
Something else they didnt mention though was thats about the time the new herbicides with phytoestrogens started showing up and unsafe plastics became an all invasive product(food grade plastics dont outgas phytoestrogens).

Being born with the wrong brain is a birth defect/disease and should be treated as such. This cant be done when people are promoteing it as normal and good though. I have known several homosexuals and they are some of the most unhappy people you will ever meet.
We need ways to help them get through these problems and live a NORMAL life that they can enjoy.
But yes I agree probably the majority of 'homosexuals' and certainly bisexuals are trained to be that way not born to it. Many were molested by homosexuals as children.

blackstarr
02-21-2006, 07:06 AM
I agree that the media and Hollywood or "Hollyweird" as you call it, seem to be pushing the homosexual agenda 24/7. The odd thing about it is that the Church instead of drowning out this onslaught by focusing on improving family life are openly debating gay marriage within the Church. So I guess this is the final act to prove that the Church does not follow the Bible.

Akbar
02-23-2006, 07:18 AM
It's not only the Church not following the Bible. The Masjid is not folowing the holy Quran as well. I guess you can say we are in the final days. A true believer in God has to make the choice between following the multitude that follow their religious leaders or the few that only follow the word of God.

wallace045
04-18-2006, 09:20 PM
Seriously, the sky doesn't fall if gay's get "accepted" like they sort of do here in skandinavia.
U just cant force or manipulate anybody to be gay who really isnt gay.
I havent noticed any difference since the gays got marriage licence last year. Accept the usual stuff that makes me sick when i watch it from the news cause it's just not friggin natural.
This gay thing is just a result of a feminizing population. One that hasnt done any warring and living in poverty for a while. And bitches about every damn problem that needs to get solved.
Men become pussies, women become dicks.
Machiavelli wrote something about that like:
feminization is inevitable as long as the nation lives in peace.

wallace045
04-18-2006, 09:32 PM
contd...
What I'm saying is.. the whole gay thing doesnt even need to be illuminati invented since it happens almost naturally over time. Women get rights, then gays get rights, animals get rights, every gets rights and so on. Then everybody starts having sex with everybody...
Check it out. Rome was the greatest empire on the planet 2000 years ago. When it was a republic at start men we're surely straight cause they had to do a lot battling. But But when it became an empire and got older and more corrupted the roman elite started having all sorts of gay parties and orgy's and shiat like that. I heard from some radio show by michael parenti on rome that julius ceasar himself sucked off a couple of senators. And he became the emperor. lol. we're all fucked ;)

Akbar
04-19-2006, 08:40 AM
When we review the history of the downfall of all great civilizations. We will come to the conclusion that they all failed because they begin to put more emphasis of self importance instead of God. They put more emphasis on the things they created instead of working on evolving their soul. Their hisotry is our lesson to learn.

Ozzy_dopster
04-19-2006, 09:40 AM
Also, every great civilization has progressed to the point that all power was concentrated in the hands of a corrupt few. When the abuse of it became unbearable, that civilization began to fall from within. Look at what is happening in the UK and other high-tech states: all technology and power are being exploited for control and oppression of the masses. Same story, new location.

http://www.regainyourbrain.org/regain_articles/FINAL%20REGAIN%20UNLINKED/Z%20MICROWAVE%20MIND%20CONTROL.htm

diabolik66
05-07-2006, 05:12 AM
Akbar, considering this is a conspiracy site your obvious homophobia seems to have blinded you to the conspiracy of which it is a part.

If one is to look at things like homosexuality as part of a conspiracy for population control, then one also has to consider the movement that gave borth to it, ie. sexual liberation. Tolerance to gays would not have happened if tolerance to other non-mainstream sexual practices had not been liberalised first, so homosexuality is just one of many faces of a culture which has been designed to kill off the family in many different ways. As the gay gene has been identified by science in a media fanfare, it's fairly ludicrous to refer to it as a "choice". Homosexuality has always been here, going right back to the dawn of man. 1% of people are gay, that's hardly going to have much of an effect on population control now is it. That figure will not change no matter how accepted it becomes, it's genetic. Do a google search for "gay gene".

If one is conspiracy-minded, the conspiracy to destroy the family is via homosexuality as a mechanism. On the one hand, the media is openly intolerant of them (it's the only acceptable prejudice in the West after all), which encourages parents to not accept their gay children's sexuality, but which cannot be changed owing to its genetic nature. This is where it destroys the family, not by the existence of homosexuality itself.

At the same time, the media rallies against laudable ideas like gay marriage, citing God as the reason why this conservative institution that encourages family relationships should not apply to them as it does others, preferring to encourage a lifestyle of darkrooms and STDs.

If homosexuality was the cause, then Ancient Greece would surely have fallen many years before it did.

Morningstarr
07-22-2006, 12:51 PM
There is no "gay gene" you moron! :lol:

What a cretin, I hope your self justification doesn't rely on this "gay gene", as it doesn't exist you fool! :lol: :lol:

666
07-22-2006, 02:50 PM
Get ready for an epidemic of gay TV.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3882159.stm


Pollution 'changes sex of fish'


Fish populations could be hit, the Environment Agency warns
A third of male fish in British rivers are in the process of changing sex due to pollution in human sewage, research by the Environment Agency suggests.

A survey of 1,500 fish at 50 river sites found more than a third of males displayed female characteristics.

Hormones in the sewage, including those produced by the female contraceptive pill, are thought to be the main cause.

The agency says the problem could damage fish populations by reducing their ability to reproduce.

It said its study highlighted the need for water companies to develop new treatments.

There has been concern for some time that chemicals, known as endocrine disruptors, are causing fish to change sex.

The latest study is the first to show the scale of the problem in Britain.

BlueAngel
08-25-2007, 01:59 PM
A population decrease is the by-product of homosexuality and lesbianism.

It could be a part of their population control mechanism, but it is also an "operation" to destroy the nuclear family; confuse gender identity and roles.

heythere
07-31-2009, 12:23 AM
Does anyone know of any research done to compare the increase in the popularity of homosexuality and the decline in birth rates during the same period? I feel that homosexuality is not only a form of population control, but also anti-family. Entire families are broken up when a person choose this lifestyle. I know we have some rainbow people on this site maybe you can weigh in.

There is a pretty decent piece of academic work on the Gale database. You can also review the sources for this work and read more about homosexuality and population.

Source Citation:Adriaens, Pieter R., and Andreas De Block. "The evolution of a social construction: the case of male homosexuality." Perspectives in Biology and Medicine 49.4 (Autumn 2006): 570(16). Student Resource Center - Gold.

iHIMself™
07-31-2009, 10:30 PM
The ancient greeks used homosexuality as a means of discovery of oneself and to ensure when they made that choice of 'marraige', it was the right one. Gay did not exist. The 'marraige' of same sex partners was an impossibility. 'Marraige' represents the true bondage of man. When two become one. You cannot become one with same sex. A positive and a positive, is a positive...a negative with a negative, is also positive. But neither can be 'electrified'. A new 'living' force. You need both negative and positive. As one. So it is absolutely normal, and natural, to have homosexual experiences and love it. But you cannot 'marry' same sex partners, because of the true essence of its purpose. To create a new 'being'. The fact same sex partners are able to adopt may seem quite ludicrous. But at the same time, it is a far healthier development for the child then having no-one care for them and love them. Everyone deserves to be loved.
The Gay phenomenon of today is a complete psychological war on the minds of our children. And it must stop. It is not ok to be gay, and you are not born gay. Gay, does not exist. It is an impossibility.

BlueAngel
07-31-2009, 10:40 PM
The ancient greeks used homosexuality as a means of discovery of oneself and to ensure when they made that choice of 'marraige', it was the right one. Gay did not exist. The 'marraige' of same sex partners was an impossibility. 'Marraige' represents the true bondage of man. When two become one. You cannot become one with same sex. A positive and a positive, is a positive...a negative with a negative, is also positive. But neither can be 'electrified'. A new 'living' force. You need both negative and positive. As one. So it is absolutely normal, and natural, to have homosexual experiences and love it. But you cannot 'marry' same sex partners, because of the true essence of its purpose. To create a new 'being'. The fact same sex partners are able to adopt may seem quite ludicrous. But at the same time, it is a far healthier development for the child then having no-one care for them and love them. Everyone deserves to be loved.
The Gay phenomenon of today is a complete psychological war on the minds of our children. And it must stop. It is not ok to be gay, and you are not born gay. Gay, does not exist. It is an impossibility.

Your post is contradictory in nature.

I've used this word twice today.

Okay, whatever.

To the point.

On one hand, you say that it is absolutely normal and natural to have homosexual experiences and love it and then on the other hand you say that it is not okay to be gay; you are not born gay; gay does not exist; it is an impossibility.

:confused:

iHIMself™
07-31-2009, 11:01 PM
You can be homosexually active, but are not 'bound' to it, like being gay is bound to it.

I use the word gay, as a 'statement' of oneself. To say you are born only to serve same sex. It is natural to stick your dick anywhere it fits and love it. That includes bestiality, amongst other sinister things. Natural. To kill is natural. Just we have laws that do not give us the right to do so. At one stage, homosexuality was one, and still is in many countries. But its not the act of homosexuality that is the problem. It is the belief that one was 'born' that way. They lie to themselves, and believe their own lies. In most cases, society has instilled it in them to reject anything else.

BlueAngel
07-31-2009, 11:08 PM
You can be homosexually active, but are not 'bound' to it, like being gay is bound to it.

I use the word gay, as a 'statement' of oneself. To say you are born only to serve same sex. It is natural to stick your dick anywhere it fits and love it. That includes bestiality, amongst other sinister things. Natural. To kill is natural. Just we have laws that do not give us the right to do so. At one stage, homosexuality was one, and still is in many countries. But its not the act of homosexuality that is the problem. It is the belief that one was 'born' that way. They lie to themselves, and believe their own lies. In most cases, society has instilled it in them to reject anything else.

Your comment doesn't make any sense, and, furthermore, for you to think that it is quite natural to stick your PENIS wherever it fits and love it only illuminates that you speak from a very SICK and TWISTED MIND.

iHIMself™
08-01-2009, 05:35 AM
Sick and twisted, no. But thankyou for asking. Ok I'll slow it down for you.
Sexual experiences and expression are natural. Whatever the sexual preference may be. But noone is ever 'bound' by that preference. It is a preference. I used the word 'homsexuality' as an act. And 'gay' as a 'bound' preference. It doesn't exist. You are not born 'bound' by your own preferences. It just sounds ridiculous.

BlueAngel
08-01-2009, 09:18 AM
Sick and twisted, no. But thankyou for asking. Ok I'll slow it down for you.
Sexual experiences and expression are natural. Whatever the sexual preference may be. But noone is ever 'bound' by that preference. It is a preference. I used the word 'homsexuality' as an act. And 'gay' as a 'bound' preference. It doesn't exist. You are not born 'bound' by your own preferences. It just sounds ridiculous.

You sound ridiculous.

iHIMself™
08-01-2009, 07:43 PM
Whoah, back the fark up! For one thing, everyone sounds ridiculous when trying to get a stubborn little girl to accept someone else's ideals.
Gay is a state of mind. A delusion. And you're delusional thinking you can attack me personally and get away with it. Argue the point. Say you don't agree and why. I shouldn't have to repeat myself 3 or 4 times to get you to understand the difference between homosexual activity and the belief one was born to commit homosexual activity. Don't attack my intelligence, because if I get started on yours, I'll make you cry you little baby.

BlueAngel
08-01-2009, 09:38 PM
Whoah, back the fark up! For one thing, everyone sounds ridiculous when trying to get a stubborn little girl to accept someone else's ideals.
Gay is a state of mind. A delusion. And you're delusional thinking you can attack me personally and get away with it. Argue the point. Say you don't agree and why. I shouldn't have to repeat myself 3 or 4 times to get you to understand the difference between homosexual activity and the belief one was born to commit homosexual activity. Don't attack my intelligence, because if I get started on yours, I'll make you cry you little baby.

I don't back peddle for anyone.

I have no desire to adopt your ideals.

I have my own, thank you.

I'm not delusional nor have I attacked you personally, but, please do tell us what it is you would do so that I wouldn't get away with it if I did attack you personally.

You're not repeating yourself.

You're talking in circles and even if you weren't, what you perceive as a difference between homosexual activity and the belief that one was born to commit homosexual activity may not be what I BELIEVE, so, therefore, I wouldn't understand it!

To each their own.

You haven't made a point, so, therefore, it is impossible to argue it.

Not attacking your intelligence.

Just pointing out the obvious.

Let's see.

According to you, I'm a stubborn LITTLE GIRL and LITTLE BABY whose intelligence you want to attack and make me cry.

Your attempt would be futile.

What?

Are you the bully in the playground?

Do your parents know you are posting on this forum?

iHIMself™
08-04-2009, 03:11 AM
you speak from a very SICK and TWISTED MIND.

You sound ridiculous.

No, not personal.

Just because you stuck your dick in a sheep in new zealand, and loved it, doesn't mean you were born to stick your dick in sheep. That's four. Circles. And you don't need to adopt my ideals, it is merely the acknowledgement of other ideals. But you wouldn't understand it anyway?

may not be what I BELIEVE, so, therefore, I wouldn't understand it!

Refusing to comprehend? This is called ignorance.

nor have I attacked you personally, but, please do tell us what it is you would do so that I wouldn't get away with it if I did attack you personally.

I said I'll make you cry, lol.

Milly
08-07-2009, 03:36 PM
iHIMself... I appreciate what you wrote about the Greeks, as that has always fascinated me: Their wives were their confidants and concubines, their men were their lovers.

But do you really believe that there is no such thing as bound sexuality?

Do you personally know any homosexuals?

As a straight female, I don't think it's just a "preference," just as I do not believe that any of the homosexual people I happen to know chose that as a "preference".

Homosexuality is exhibited in nature. It may be a part of population control, it may not be.

Recently they have found that, at least among males fetuses, that the female host resists the added testosterone, her body thinks of it as a foreign invader, and thus it tries to "feminize" the fetus, to make it more suitable for it's current environment. The more males are born to the same female, the higher chance with each boy that they will be homosexual.

Homosexuality is not wrong. It's not just a choice, either. It's nature.

Also, this isn't 1845.

BlueAngel
08-07-2009, 09:54 PM
Concubinage is the state of a woman in an ongoing, usually matrimonially-oriented relationship with a man that cannot be married to her, often because of a difference in social status. Typically, the man has an official wife and one or more concubines. Concubines have limited rights of support from the man, and their offspring are publicly acknowledged as the man's children, albeit usually of lower status than children born by the official wife or wives; these legal rights distinguish a concubine from a mistress. Modern day concubines are widely misnamed or called mistresses because of the minimal use of the term concubine.

The term concubine generally signifies ongoing, matrimonial relationships where the woman is of lower social status than the man or the official wife or wives (typically, the concubine is of inferior rank to the official wife or wives). Generally, only men of high economic and social status have concubines. Many historical Asian, European and Arab rulers maintained concubines as well as wives.

Historically, concubinage was frequently voluntary (by the girl and/or her family's arrangement), as it provided a measure of economic security for the woman involved. Involuntary, or servile, concubinage sometimes involves sexual slavery of one member of the relationship, typically the woman, being a pleasure slave to the man.

Where it has a legal status, as in ancient Rome, and in ancient China, concubinage is akin, although inferior, to marriage. In opposition to those laws, traditional Western laws do not acknowledge the legal status of concubines, but rather only admit monogamous marriages. Any other relationship does not enjoy legal protection; the woman is essentially a mistress.

BlueAngel
08-07-2009, 09:56 PM
Huh, Milly?

"Recently they have found that, at least among males fetuses, that the female host resists the added testosterone, her body thinks of it as a foreign invader, and thus it tries to "feminize" the fetus, to make it more suitable for it's current environment. The more males are born to the same female, the higher chance with each boy that they will be homosexual."

iHIMself™
08-08-2009, 02:26 AM
"Recently they have found that, at least among males fetuses, that the female host resists the added testosterone, her body thinks of it as a foreign invader, and thus it tries to "feminize" the fetus, to make it more suitable for it's current environment. The more males are born to the same female, the higher chance with each boy that they will be homosexual."


That would have to be almost as good as the gay gene that was discovered. This is nothing but pseudo science. A myth.

Milly
08-08-2009, 12:59 PM
Huh, Milly?

"Recently they have found that, at least among males fetuses, that the female host resists the added testosterone, her body thinks of it as a foreign invader, and thus it tries to "feminize" the fetus, to make it more suitable for it's current environment. The more males are born to the same female, the higher chance with each boy that they will be homosexual."

YouTube - Homosexuality: Is It A Choice? [For the Bible Tells Me So]

Milly
08-08-2009, 01:06 PM
That would have to be almost as good as the gay gene that was discovered. This is nothing but pseudo science. A myth.

Huh. So iHIMself, even with some evidence, you are opposed to looking into it? This isn't much of a discussion, then.

I apologize, BlueAngel, I am trying to find a better source. At least the video shares links :)

Milly
08-09-2009, 06:52 PM
Psychologists Reject Gay ‘Therapy’ The New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/06/health/06gay.html?_r=3&hp)

BlueAngel
08-10-2009, 06:34 PM
No need to apologize, Milly.

I just can't quite comprehend the following which you have written:

"Recently they have found that, at least among males fetuses, that the female host resists the added testosterone, her body thinks of it as a foreign invader, and thus it tries to "feminize" the fetus, to make it more suitable for it's current environment. The more males are born to the same female, the higher chance with each boy that they will be homosexual."

Milly
08-10-2009, 09:24 PM
Oh, well if you watch the video clip I posted, about 1/3 of the way through it talks about it, and if you go to the actual YouTube page, there are a bunch of links for more information about that particular idea, and also links to back up that homosexuality is not a choice, and is not "curable"

Holiness Preacher
08-11-2009, 01:16 AM
If God don't judge san francisco, and W. Hollywood, he owes Sodom and Gommorah an apology! Open the Church’s Dirty Closet: From the Theologian’s Corner | Relijournal (http://relijournal.com/christianity/open-the-churchs-dirty-closet-from-the-theologians-corner/)

it is population control. the gov't is telling the people 2 be tollerant, and nothing is further from the truth.

iHIMself™
08-11-2009, 09:04 AM
No, I have looked into it, Milly, and found it holds about as much real evidence as 'global warming'.

Milly
08-11-2009, 03:00 PM
iHIMself...Well, if the point is to have a discussion, then discuss it. I think it's kind of strange to just make a statement based on what you believe, and shoot every other idea down with out providing the information you yourself used to formulate your own beliefs... you know?

Preacher dude... What? Okay, I do believe that homosexuality could be a form of NATURAL population control (which is good, the human race is a bit out of hand, what with the Duggar's popping out kids like there's no tomorrow), but I do not think it is unnatural or wrong. It occurs in nature, in other animals, and maybe it does serve a purpose of allowing someone to have a loving, healthy sex life WITH OUT procreating and adding to the already strained population.

Who knows.

But I think as long as what someone is doing isn't hurting anyone else, then why should we care? Someone's homosexuality does not effect YOU. That's like saying someone's heterosexuality effects someone else.

Honestly, most of the time it seems like homophobes are really just womanizers... they can't wrap their head around how 2 guys of 2 girls can be in a relationship together because they constantly try to figure out "who wears the pants in the relationship" instead of admitting that they just can't understand.

Anytime a coach tries to rile a team of boys up, don't they usually revert to calling the boys names like "sissy girls", "ladies", etc? Because what's the worst thing for a straight guy to be thought as? A woman.

The government is NOT telling people to be tolerant... are you kidding me? If they were trying to promote tolerance, wouldn't same-sex marriage be allowed?

But, no. There is no separation of church and state. And thus, the ideals of a religion in which most of the country doesn't even believe is forced upon it's nationals.

iHIMself™
08-12-2009, 05:37 AM
I think it's kind of strange to just make a statement based on what you believe, and shoot every other idea down with out providing the information you yourself used to formulate your own beliefs


You're right. My bad. I have had a terrible month. But it is YOU who is providing the information, and I was just analysing it. I do not need evidence to justify my rejection of yours. It is the lack of 'real' evidence that leaves me unconvinced.

There is absolutely no doubt, because the evidence is everywhere, that homosexual activity is a natural phenomenon in nature. So is killing, pedophilia, incest. It is all a natural phenomenon. But there is no 'real' evidence to suggest that people, or monkeys, or any other animals, are 'born' to these activities. It's nonsense. That's not my belief, that is what is obvious. Natural, we mean instinct. It is always based on necessity. People need to connect, and it is their environment or even the situation, that provides that necessity. The instinctive reaction, whatever that reaction is (because there are so many natural reactions that we cannot possibly accept in a society), is all perfectly natural.


as long as what someone is doing isn't hurting anyone else, then why should we care? Someone's homosexuality does not effect YOU. That's like saying someone's heterosexuality effects someone else.


The 'gay' community, along with government, are planning to 'tour' junior primary schools, to 'educate' our children in the 'acceptance' of homosexuality as something they have 'inherited' or are 'born' with. I'm sorry, but that is a direct attack on the children's perception of reality. It will affect them enormously.

iHIMself™
08-12-2009, 06:44 AM
This is what I don't get. If we were to say gays are, just generalising here, 'whites' of the 'westernised' world who are, for the purpose of depopulation, not procreating, then that will leave an enormous growth of 'coloured' who are currently breeding at unbelievable rates.
If the NWO, is somewhat racist, which, hey, is most likely, then what the hell? It doesn't make sense.
Or are they to be the last remaining 'pure' breeds like certain jews seem to believe they are?
With most 'coloured' already quite used to the brutality of their oppressive governments or regimes, a horrible thought of the 'blind faithful' majority being 'tricked', 'shim shammed', into unequivocal submission comes to mind.

Holiness Preacher
08-12-2009, 01:12 PM
in san francisco, they have already taken a kindergarten class to an adam and steve wedding. they are trying to brain wash the kids with thier sodomite ideology before they even develop. we are in the days of kids saying " i have 2 mommies." The gov't is responsible. They pass laws to protect people who who should just keep that kind of filth to themselves.

Darth Cacodaemon
08-14-2009, 11:01 AM
If God don't judge san francisco, and W. Hollywood, he owes Sodom and Gommorah an apology! Open the Church’s Dirty Closet: From the Theologian’s Corner | Relijournal (http://relijournal.com/christianity/open-the-churchs-dirty-closet-from-the-theologians-corner/)

it is population control. the gov't is telling the people 2 be tollerant, and nothing is further from the truth.

I agree. I will kill you. I will burn down your Church with everyone in. Once we come to power we will kill all of you Christians and have our way with your daughters.
I can't wait to meet you so I can kill you. I will bash your head in with a sledgehammer and laugh as your head comes apart. Then as your dying I will make love to your wife, to fill your soul with hate and anguish.
I will then kill every preacher in your town, smashing their heads to bits with sledgehammers, and castrating the rest with an axe. I will put out the eyes of your old men with hot irons and your women will be led away with for us to impregnate and make our whores.
I quiver with anticipation. The sound of your death will be music. I want to see the blood splatter against the altar and put down the walls. I want to drench myself in your blood.

Holiness Preacher
08-14-2009, 12:59 PM
it is obvious mommy and daddy didnt show you enough attention when you were a kid. Its okay to come out of the basement every once and a while. Go look for a job and quit writing your name on the orange juice container. Word of advice, you have a IP adress so you should never threaten to burn a church, its the quickest way to get the FBI at your door. You have time to retract that comment, and i suggest you do.

BlueAngel
08-14-2009, 10:02 PM
I agree. I will kill you. I will burn down your Church with everyone in. Once we come to power we will kill all of you Christians and have our way with your daughters.
I can't wait to meet you so I can kill you. I will bash your head in with a sledgehammer and laugh as your head comes apart. Then as your dying I will make love to your wife, to fill your soul with hate and anguish.
I will then kill every preacher in your town, smashing their heads to bits with sledgehammers, and castrating the rest with an axe. I will put out the eyes of your old men with hot irons and your women will be led away with for us to impregnate and make our whores.
I quiver with anticipation. The sound of your death will be music. I want to see the blood splatter against the altar and put down the walls. I want to drench myself in your blood.

There is no reason for you to advise Darth that he has time to retract his comment.

Time has run out.

He's already made it.

It cannot be retracted.

It has been documented, along with many of his other incriminating statements.

albie
08-18-2009, 05:04 AM
Sounds like Darth is using the tortures and threats the chrtistian church has used on people. Right back at you crazy religious types. The hatred of gays is the conspiracy, not population control. They don't want to control population numbers. The more of you there are the more they have power over you. They get you to hate each other, plain and simple. His holiness and Akbar are patsies.

BlueAngel
08-18-2009, 11:48 AM
Sounds like Darth is using the tortures and threats the chrtistian church has used on people. Right back at you crazy religious types. The hatred of gays is the conspiracy, not population control. They don't want to control population numbers. The more of you there are the more they have power over you. They get you to hate each other, plain and simple. His holiness and Akbar are patsies.

They do want to control the population in many ways.

Prescription drugs/social engineering/mind control; to name a few.

The hatred of gays is not the conspiracy.

The social engineering of our society is the conspiracy.

Darth isn't using torture and/or threats that the Christian Church has used on people.

His comments are unto himself and have no connection to anyone or anything else.

albie
08-19-2009, 04:07 AM
They do want to control the population in many ways.

Prescription drugs/social engineering/mind control; to name a few.

The hatred of gays is not the conspiracy.

The social engineering of our society is the conspiracy.

Darth isn't using torture and/or threats that the Christian Church has used on people.

His comments are unto himself and have no connection to anyone or anything else.

They are not doing a very good job of population control if there are billions of us. No one in their right mind would think they could stop the average human moron from shagging. Why would they want to cut our numbers? The more people the more division the more strife.

They don't need to make people hate gays. People already do. They just use that to cause more social division. Division and panic is the key to all of it. But they use our natural prejudices and small mindedness to acheive their aims. We deserve it, basically.

BlueAngel
08-19-2009, 06:32 PM
They are not doing a very good job of population control if there are billions of us. No one in their right mind would think they could stop the average human moron from shagging. Why would they want to cut our numbers? The more people the more division the more strife.

They don't need to make people hate gays. People already do. They just use that to cause more social division. Division and panic is the key to all of it. But they use our natural prejudices and small mindedness to acheive their aims. We deserve it, basically.

USELESS eaters are of no USE to them.

They kill and maim by the thousands when they wage UNJUST wars.

They kill and cause disease when they suppress third world countries.

This is called population control.

I never said they used social engineering to make people hate homosexuals.

I said, through social engineering, the acceptance of homosexuality is their goal.

We are creatures of our environment.

Many of us BECOME that which we have have been conditioned to through social engineering.

Homosexuals cannot bear children.

Neither can lesbians.

Maybe YOU deserve what THEY thrust upon US, but the rest of us don't.

albie
08-20-2009, 03:56 AM
It is not about population control. You have not given me one good reason why they would control our population numbers.
All you've done is list ways of doing it.

I'm going to assume for now that you won't give a good reason why they would control population growth.

If you think gays and lesbians are incapable of having kids...well, you're wrong. They can and do.

And if you think "they" make people gay then, christ, you should learn some stuff.

Holiness Preacher
08-21-2009, 06:35 AM
the church is following the bible as best it can considering the times, the bible warns of those who will not follow sound doctrine. support of the sodomites by the church could be a sign of the end times.

Milly
08-21-2009, 09:51 AM
the church is following the bible as best it can considering the times, the bible warns of those who will not follow sound doctrine. support of the sodomites by the church could be a sign of the end times.

End times. What is with people and the obsession with the end times? Every decade there seems to be a focus on some event or situation that people claim "could be a sign of the end times."

I can't be believe it because it all sounds like a load of paranoid garbage to me.

Milly
08-21-2009, 09:59 AM
It is not about population control. You have not given me one good reason why they would control our population numbers.
All you've done is list ways of doing it.

I'm going to assume for now that you won't give a good reason why they would control population growth.

If you think gays and lesbians are incapable of having kids...well, you're wrong. They can and do.

And if you think "they" make people gay then, christ, you should learn some stuff.

I was thinking about this the other day... maybe they don't mean population control in the sense of controlling the numbers, but in controlling the actions or ideas of the population... which makes more sense in this particular argument.

BlueAngel
08-21-2009, 01:57 PM
It is not about population control. You have not given me one good reason why they would control our population numbers.
All you've done is list ways of doing it.

I'm going to assume for now that you won't give a good reason why they would control population growth.

If you think gays and lesbians are incapable of having kids...well, you're wrong. They can and do.

And if you think "they" make people gay then, christ, you should learn some stuff.

Apparently, you can't read.

I gave you one very good reason why they control the population.

THEY don't want to provide for USELESS EATERS (those who are not valuable to them).

Hence, the reason for the suffering in third world countries, war, etc.

What I meant is that homosexuals and lesbians who are in relationships do not produce offspring.

Another way to control the population.

The words social engineering and "conditioning" is something you should read about.

albie
08-22-2009, 04:04 AM
Useless eaters. Do you think the starving and poor make a difference to their pockets? Not at all. They get richer and richer and more and more people go hungry. Useless eaters doesn't even mean anything. Who are these people?

People on the dole? We are all useless eaters to them? We pay them. Our tax puts them in mansions. We give them power. The more of us the richer THEY are. You haven't given me ONE GOOD reason for population control. You've given me a weak and vague reason.

Please provide a GOOD reason.

If you wanted to control population they would use sterilisation on criminals, or there would be a disease that sterilises.

The population of the world is growing all the time. They are not doing a very good job of it.

I suggest this is an imaginary conspiracy, like most of them are.

Alex Jones' down fall. Like Icke and his reptiles.

BlueAngel
08-23-2009, 11:01 PM
Useless eaters. Do you think the starving and poor make a difference to their pockets? Not at all. They get richer and richer and more and more people go hungry. Useless eaters doesn't even mean anything. Who are these people?

What is wrong with you?

Reading comprehension disability?

I said, the starving and poor are useless eaters and the very reason that they keep them starving and poor.

SO, they'll die, because they are USELESS EATERS!!

POPULATION CONTROL.

People on the dole? We are all useless eaters to them? We pay them. Our tax puts them in mansions. We give them power. The more of us the richer THEY are. You haven't given me ONE GOOD reason for population control. You've given me a weak and vague reason.

As I've explained, we are not all useless eaters to them.

An example of useless eaters are those who reside in third world countries. Those who continue to die of starvation and disease because of the suppresion they thrust upon these people so they'll die of starvation and/or disease because they are USELESS EATERS.

Those who work and pay their taxes aren't useless eaters.

I've given you several reasons for population control.

Apparently, as I've stated previously, you have a problem with reading comprehension.

Please provide a GOOD reason.

If you wanted to control population they would use sterilisation on criminals, or there would be a disease that sterilises.

The population of the world is growing all the time. They are not doing a very good job of it.

I suggest this is an imaginary conspiracy, like most of them are.

Alex Jones' down fall. Like Icke and his reptiles.

oops!

albie
08-24-2009, 04:20 AM
Right, so the starving kids of Ethiopia are all gay then? How is being gay going to cut numbers in the useless segments of society? Gayness is across the board in all levels of society. In fact it seems to be pretty common in the upper classes. Are they useless eaters? That's because it is caused by certain factors in the womb. How do the conspirators get into the womb and fiddle with it to make people gay? Or do you think gay parades make people gay? Because I haven't seen a gay parade and thought "Gee, I bet this makes people want to be gay." Did you feel that?

It's bullshit. People say "Oh, gays are undermining society, it's population control" because they want a legitimate excuse for hating gays. They can't get away with saying "Oh,. they creep me out!"
News for you>>>> nobody is fooled by this but you. We all know you hate gays and that your excuses are fraudulent. It's so obvious. Be honest and admit you hate the fudgepackers. To think you had to make a forum so you could pretend to not hate gaylords.

iHIMself™
08-25-2009, 05:12 PM
Why does population control have to mean birth control? Mind control is far more useful.

proof:

albie said
That's because it is caused by certain factors in the womb. How do the conspirators get into the womb and fiddle with it to make people gay?

It's amazing how much nonsense people actually believe. I suppose they have found people are born criminals too.
People are born people. I am not a Muslim, and do not believe life has been written for me. I am a living being. I can evolve and change into whatever is required for me to survive in the environment that I've been placed in. People CHOOSE to be gay, for whatever reason. Perhaps for their own survival.

On the topic of pewfage, I don't believe a law still exists for homosexual activity. But I can't see why they need to get married. Marraige is the union of Man and Woman, becoming One. This is in the bible itself. And government constitution. They can do whatever they do, and love each other for ever and ever, but they can't get married. That is there choice. Their sacrifice for one another. You can't change what constitutes a marraige just to appease people with attention deficit disorder who just won't take NO for an answer. There's only so much you can do for your spoilt little princess, I'm afraid.

BlueAngel
08-25-2009, 10:09 PM
Why does population control have to mean birth control? Mind control is far more useful.

proof:

albie said


It's amazing how much nonsense people actually believe. I suppose they have found people are born criminals too.
People are born people. I am not a Muslim, and do not believe life has been written for me. I am a living being. I can evolve and change into whatever is required for me to survive in the environment that I've been placed in. People CHOOSE to be gay, for whatever reason. Perhaps for their own survival.

On the topic of pewfage, I don't believe a law still exists for homosexual activity. But I can't see why they need to get married. Marraige is the union of Man and Woman, becoming One. This is in the bible itself. And government constitution. They can do whatever they do, and love each other for ever and ever, but they can't get married. That is there choice. Their sacrifice for one another. You can't change what constitutes a marraige just to appease people with attention deficit disorder who just won't take NO for an answer. There's only so much you can do for your spoilt little princess, I'm afraid.

I suppose since you believe that MEN who are homosexuals CHOOSE to be such, you also believe that SERIAL killers CHOOSE to be what they are, as well.

An example that refutes your claim on another thread that EVIL does not exist.

You also said that GOOD does not exist on that thread.

If you cannot see GOODNESS, your heart must be stone.

BlueAngel
08-25-2009, 10:12 PM
Right, so the starving kids of Ethiopia are all gay then? How is being gay going to cut numbers in the useless segments of society? Gayness is across the board in all levels of society. In fact it seems to be pretty common in the upper classes. Are they useless eaters? That's because it is caused by certain factors in the womb. How do the conspirators get into the womb and fiddle with it to make people gay? Or do you think gay parades make people gay? Because I haven't seen a gay parade and thought "Gee, I bet this makes people want to be gay." Did you feel that?

It's bullshit. People say "Oh, gays are undermining society, it's population control" because they want a legitimate excuse for hating gays. They can't get away with saying "Oh,. they creep me out!"
News for you>>>> nobody is fooled by this but you. We all know you hate gays and that your excuses are fraudulent. It's so obvious. Be honest and admit you hate the fudgepackers. To think you had to make a forum so you could pretend to not hate gaylords.

Why are you equating anything that I have written on this thread about homosexuality to starving kids in Ethiopia?

Do me a favor.

Don't even reply because I'm certain that your reply to anything that I have written on this thread or elsewhere on this forum will not make any sense.

iHIMself™
08-28-2009, 04:28 AM
I suppose since you believe that MEN who are homosexuals CHOOSE to be such, you also believe that SERIAL killers CHOOSE to be what they are, as well.

An example that refutes your claim on another thread that EVIL does not exist.

You also said that GOOD does not exist on that thread.

If you cannot see GOODNESS, your heart must be stone.


Please don't tell me you actually believe serial killers are BORN with this intent. Please.

Of course they CHOOSE. Serial killers have their own reasons, fantasies, whatever. Killing, naturally, is a matter of survival. Serial killers have lost it, mentally, and what they do is, what you would call, evil. But it is THEIR way of surviving...even if only mentally.

Doing all you can to survive, is exactly what life is about. It's just unfortunate, it is all mental survival these days.

Some people think by killing themselves will help them survive their torment.

Killing is natural. Is killing evil? Because we kill everyday by the millions. For food. But only killing humans is evil? Oh, so killing someone who was about to kill you, or your child, or mother, or the president? Indeed it is good, in such a case. It is all based on survival.

When I say there is no good or evil, I mean our concepts of these words are based on legislation, morals, community or social values. Not reality. Reality, is knowing that life is ONE. And there is no part of life that is more significant or insignificant than the other.

If life were to be described as God, then god does not love good. He loves ALL.

There is no good or evil. There just.......is.

albie
09-07-2009, 03:30 AM
Why does population control have to mean birth control? Mind control is far more useful.

proof:

albie said


It's amazing how much nonsense people actually believe. I suppose they have found people are born criminals too.
People are born people. I am not a Muslim, and do not believe life has been written for me. I am a living being. I can evolve and change into whatever is required for me to survive in the environment that I've been placed in. People CHOOSE to be gay, for whatever reason. Perhaps for their own survival.

On the topic of pewfage, I don't believe a law still exists for homosexual activity. But I can't see why they need to get married. Marraige is the union of Man and Woman, becoming One. This is in the bible itself. And government constitution. They can do whatever they do, and love each other for ever and ever, but they can't get married. That is there choice. Their sacrifice for one another. You can't change what constitutes a marraige just to appease people with attention deficit disorder who just won't take NO for an answer. There's only so much you can do for your spoilt little princess, I'm afraid.

People choose to be gay? I suppose you chose to be straight then? Can you tell us when you chose this option? I was kissing girls. or wanting to, when I was about seven. I never had any desire to kiss boys. I didn't make a choice to be straight. Most Gay people tell us that they were gay from the start.

I can guarantee you won't admit to having gay feelings because you hate gays and that is the reason you are on this thread attacking them. I'm not stupid. Most people know why you do this. Hate.

We are all born with traits that we would not be able to counteract. You bring up the idea of criminality because it is not proven. It is an easy subject to bring up that backs up your view. What about people who are born with higher levels of testosterone? They end up being a certain type of person. More aggressive. You cannot alter that with will alone. That hormone is genetically fixed.

You have NO proof that most gayness is choice. Just remember that.

albie
09-07-2009, 03:33 AM
Have you noticed how you attack a deliberate joke I make and don't even mention that I beat your argument about gayness being a lower class thing? You see it as aimed at pointless people. Pointless to the higher class. Yet gayness exists in all classes. Hence your argument is rendered illogical.

Do you have the guts to actually argue this above point?

Holiness Preacher
09-07-2009, 10:57 AM
Have you noticed how you attack a deliberate joke I make and don't even mention that I beat your argument about gayness being a lower class thing? You see it as aimed at pointless people. Pointless to the higher class. Yet gayness exists in all classes. Hence your argument is rendered illogical.

Do you have the guts to actually argue this above point?

why argue about sissies. they are all hell bound sinners. they refuse to repent, and they have chosen the will of Satan instead of God. Population control is part of the devils plan and they are playing right into his hands. Its population control because they prevent more of the anointed saints of god to be born into this world to full fill prophecy. Wake up people!

albie
09-08-2009, 05:06 AM
>>Its population control because they prevent more of the anointed saints of god to be born into this world to full fill prophecy. Wake up people!

HAH! How many people does God need? There's six billion. He couldn't get all his anointed in amongst that number? He must be a moron.

Why not just have them born into the houses of the enemy? Trojan style.

generati
09-19-2009, 09:27 PM
Milly, I wanted to back you up on your point about women's bodies rejecting male fetuses. First Born Boys May Increase Risk of Miscarriage (http://www.ivf1.com/boys-cause-miscarriage/) here is a link on a medical study in this area.

It is medical fact that the female fetus is the default and male fetuses are a mutation only of the female.
How does this explain homosexuality in men? When a woman's body tries to reject a male fetus, it produces antigens. If successful the fetus is miscarried, if unsuccessful the woman's body will produce more hormones in an attempt to stop the rejection.
The more male fetuses she carries, the more successful this process becomes, this can then lead to the male child being born homosexual.
Why would nature want homosexuals? because the female gene in the default, it tries to replicate itself as much as possible over the male gene. Homosexual males are more likely to provide more support to subsequent female children, because of their inherent feminine qualities, thus helping the female gene to survive. Gay men are predisposed to helping raise children.

Homosexuality is predominant throughout the animal kingdom, it is not exclusive to humans.
I don't really see apes or dolphins thinking "hmmm, I think I might like to be gay, just for the rampant sex"

See also: Born Gay? - TIME (http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,978923-1,00.html)

The real bottom line here is, honestly, what does it matter? ;)

Holiness Preacher
09-19-2009, 10:11 PM
I cant understand how you guys try to make excuses for sodomite behavior. ( Good excuses by the way ). You are sympathising with what is un-natural. Animals are not the ultimate creation of God, so how can you even compare Fido. My poodle will hump anything. He even got into a fight, for humping another dogs head. He works off of instinct to reproduce. We work off of extinct as well, but some of you have ignored what is natural.

Jude 1:7-10 In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.

In the very same way, these dreamers pollute their own bodies, reject authority and slander celestial beings. But even the archangel Michael, when he was disputing with the devil about the body of Moses, did not dare to bring a slanderous accusation against him, but said, "The Lord rebuke you!" Yet these men speak abusively against whatever they do not understand; and what things they do understand by instinct, like unreasoning animals—these are the very things that destroy them.

generati
09-20-2009, 11:24 PM
I cant understand how you guys try to make excuses for sodomite behavior. ( Good excuses by the way ). You are sympathising with what is un-natural. Animals are not the ultimate creation of God, so how can you even compare Fido. My poodle will hump anything. He even got into a fight, for humping another dogs head. He works off of instinct to reproduce. We work off of extinct as well, but some of you have ignored what is natural.

Jude 1:7-10 In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.

In the very same way, these dreamers pollute their own bodies, reject authority and slander celestial beings. But even the archangel Michael, when he was disputing with the devil about the body of Moses, did not dare to bring a slanderous accusation against him, but said, "The Lord rebuke you!" Yet these men speak abusively against whatever they do not understand; and what things they do understand by instinct, like unreasoning animals—these are the very things that destroy them.

Hi, the bible is a nice book, but so is Lord of the Rings and I don't believe that is real either. If you can believe the fantasy that is the bible you will believe anything :rolleyes:

albie
09-22-2009, 03:53 AM
What his Holiness is saying is that we as humans can decide who we are. Therefore His Holiness sees a man's butt and forces himself not to find it sexy. He does this all the time. He sees a woman's butt and he forces himself to like it.

This is what he's saying is his daily actions are.

BlueAngel
09-22-2009, 06:44 AM
What his Holiness is saying is that we as humans can decide who we are. Therefore His Holiness sees a man's butt and forces himself not to find it sexy. He does this all the time. He sees a woman's butt and he forces himself to like it.

This is what he's saying is his daily actions are.

So, you think that homosexuals choose this lifestyle?

Okay.

albie
09-23-2009, 03:43 AM
No, I was critiquing His Holiness's opinions. For his assertion that sexuality is choice it must be the case that he chose his leanings. Hence he must fancy balls and cock as well as minge and paps. To make a choice you have to HAVE a choice. I personally do not believe most homosexuals had a choice. It is hardwired into them from birth.

I am baiting His Holiness and his silence will speak volumes.

Laokin
10-06-2009, 12:35 PM
Does anyone know of any research done to compare the increase in the popularity of homosexuality and the decline in birth rates during the same period? I feel that homosexuality is not only a form of population control, but also anti-family. Entire families are broken up when a person choose this lifestyle. I know we have some rainbow people on this site maybe you can weigh in.


Yeah the increase of known homosexuals doesn't mean there are more homosexuals. It just means more people are telling people they are. Why? Because it's more acceptable then it used to be.

Homosexuality goes back to ancient Romans and before them even. You haven't clue what your talking about. I'm also pretty sure the reason for families being broken up has to do with religion and the fact that it's popular belief that the bible says being gay = hell.

The bible doesn't say that at all, but the bible does say Divorce = Hell.

I suspect religion is to blame.

P.S.

I'm pretty sure they don't like being called "Rainbow People."

Oh my sister is homosexual. It didn't break up my family. Why? It's her life, and she will live it like she lives it, it nobodies place but their own to choose how they live life. It's people who impose their beliefs on other people that force non-communications.

This has nothing to do with population control as gay couples have kids too. Lesbians get artificially inseminated and have a family. Gay guy can sex up(or donate sperm to) a surrogate mother to have a child. Being gay, doesn't stop procreation smart guy.

P.S.S.

Homosexuality is caused by a Gene in the Genome. Proven Scientific fact that homosexuality is genetic. I.E. You don't have a choice. Your born with the gene, or your not.

Out of the Box
10-22-2009, 10:50 AM
To me, it seems the normality of homosexuality and the rise of homosexuality figures are indeed the consequence of social engineering. The very purpose of this process is unclear but its consequences are obvious. A decrease in heterosexuality implies a decrease of births. The feminisation of men and the masculinisation of females implies a decrease of manly behavior and attitudes among men and wommanly behavior and attitudes among women with multiple consequences on its own (eg. the confusion of male and female characteristics and roles within society). Also, the gradual replacement of marriage as a sacred bond between a man and a woman that was once intended to provide a safe and stable environment for offspring by a more mundane bond between any two people who are sexually and emotionally engaged in a monogamous relationship has a significant impact on the perception of this institute. Whatever is the purpose of this social change, I'm not very confident in its outcome.

Out of the Box
10-22-2009, 11:18 AM
Yeah the increase of known homosexuals doesn't mean there are more homosexuals. It just means more people are telling people they are. Why? Because it's more acceptable then it used to be.

The rise of homosexuality is probably caused both by an increase in "outings" due to a greater social acceptance and an increase of homosexuality due to social engineering by "education", media, the music industry and Hollywood.

Homosexuality goes back to ancient Romans and before them even.

True. However, during most of human history homosexuality was considered a deviance and homosexuality was not very visible in society. It was put in the same category as pedosexuality, necrophilia or sadomassochism: a sexual perversion that should not be at most tolerated in private as long as its consentual and monogamous.

Whether homosexuality does indeed fall in the same category as pedosexuality, necrophilia or sadomassochism and whether either of these behaviors are perversions or different variations of normality is not the issue here. This seems to be a matter of culture and individual morality rather than an absolute. And whether or not homosexuality figures rose only due to a greater amount of "outing" as a consequence of greater social acceptance or whether modern culture has fueled an increase of homosexuality itself can't be answered by looking at the greater social acceptance of homosexuality alone.

I suspect religion is to blame.

I suspect a difference in morality between liberals and conservatives is more important than religion or differences in religious beliefs.

Oh my sister is homosexual. It didn't break up my family. Why? It's her life, and she will live it like she lives it, it nobodies place but their own to choose how they live life. It's people who impose their beliefs on other people that force non-communications.

One of my best friends is a lesbian, yet that doesn't mean I believe homosexuality is not a deviance and that homosexuality does not increase as a consequence of social engineering. I respect her as an individual and I do not treat her any different because she has chosen a woman as a sexual and emotional partner, yet that doesn't mean I believe homosexuality is as normal and as healthy as heterosexuality. I also don't treat people any different when I know they've used cocaine or speed in their past or even in the present, yet that doesn't mean I support their way of life. I believe truely respecting one another means not treating each other differently while disagreeing with their lifestyle or philosophy.

Being gay, doesn't stop procreation smart guy.

It does. When a fertile man and a fertile woman have unprotected sex, the conception of a child is the logical outcome. With just two fertile men or just two fertile women there is no way to conceive a child that's biologically related to both parents. As such, the threshold to procreation is far greater for homosexual couples than for heterosexual couples.

Homosexuality is caused by a Gene in the Genome. Proven Scientific fact that homosexuality is genetic. I.E. You don't have a choice. Your born with the gene, or your not.

Homosexuality has both a genetic and a cultural factor. Culture can influence the individual's sexual preference and turn a genetic heterosexual into a homosexual and vice versa, depending on the input coming from that culture. The change in sexual preference can be compared with how some men are drawn to women's clothing and some women are drawn to men's clothing. It makes no sense for this to be purely biological since clothing itself is a purely cultural creation.

Out of the Box
10-22-2009, 11:30 AM
People choose to be gay? I suppose you chose to be straight then? Can you tell us when you chose this option? I was kissing girls. or wanting to, when I was about seven. I never had any desire to kiss boys. I didn't make a choice to be straight. Most Gay people tell us that they were gay from the start.

You say "most gays", I say "some gays". I know several girls who showed only interest in guys until they reached the age of 15 or older and then all of a sudden changed to girls. In fact, one of them still managed to be seduced by a smooth-talking guy who got her pregnant and who would live for a few years with her after she'd declared she was lesbian and had only girlfriends for some years, then ended up as a single mother and decided she was lesbian again. Although she did have some androgynous features in her looks and behavior, her apetite for heterosexual sex was quite normal for a 16-year-old girl before she outed herself as a lesbian. I believe she's around 25 today and still a single mother.

albie
10-23-2009, 04:46 AM
Basic forum error#1: "I saw this." " I saw that " I know this person."

It is called ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE. And means nothing. You don't really know what was going on inside her. And she was ONE PERSON. Yes? To throw this person up as evidence is a weak argument. Yes?

It is basically designed to fool yourself with. Please do not imagine that I am a person in YOUR head who falls for the same weak arguments. The reason you think this is evidence is because you are already convinced of your prejudices through no more reason than basic stupid hate.

Yes?

Therefore any tiny weak little thing you see or think you know is all that is needed to sway your flimsy mind. Yes?

This is basic debating theory that you should know. Now you know it.

All those flimsy little events you use to sway your flimsy little mind. It's no wonder us reptiles rule you.

Out of the Box
10-23-2009, 06:16 AM
Basic forum error#1: "I saw this." " I saw that " I know this person."

It is called ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE. And means nothing. You don't really know what was going on inside her.

She was my first girlfriend (I"m a guy, by the way) so I know her quite intimately.

And she was ONE PERSON. Yes?

She's one out of several lesbians I know with a similar story. Her case is just the most peculiar one.

To throw this person up as evidence is a weak argument. Yes?

Not if you can see a pattern by comparing several similar stories.

The reason you think this is evidence is because you are already convinced of your prejudices through no more reason than basic stupid hate.

These are not prejudices. These are judgements based on observation. I used to hang around quite a lot among lesbians (lesbian women are generally more likable than straight women) when I was 19.

Therefore any tiny weak little thing you see or think you know is all that is needed to sway your flimsy mind. Yes?

Nope. I just analyse the behavior of different people and filter out the patterns when they occur.

All those flimsy little events you use to sway your flimsy little mind.

My flimsy little mind? As a former Mensa member I always find it funny when people question my intelligence for disagreeing on whatever issue.

It's no wonder us reptiles rule you.

:rolleyes:

Public Enemy Number One
10-26-2009, 06:52 PM
You say "most gays", I say "some gays". I know several girls who showed only interest in guys until they reached the age of 15 or older and then all of a sudden changed to girls. In fact, one of them still managed to be seduced by a smooth-talking guy who got her pregnant and who would live for a few years with her after she'd declared she was lesbian and had only girlfriends for some years, then ended up as a single mother and decided she was lesbian again. Although she did have some androgynous features in her looks and behavior, her apetite for heterosexual sex was quite normal for a 16-year-old girl before she outed herself as a lesbian. I believe she's around 25 today and still a single mother.

I think gays have has a bad bringing up, and that's why they turn out weird.

Or let me make one real out there example. There is a dude I ran into who calls himself "Pamperchu". Pamperchu likes to wear a bunny suit and diapers.
The normal sexuality for males and females is hetrosexuality. I think a bad upbringing and deep psychological issues makes them that way, like Pamperchu.
Also, wether you know it or not, some are turned that way by sickos. My father and mother, both sociopaths, used to try to mess with me by making me wear girls clothes. I dunno why they tried since I am a guy..maybe it was just their underlying sadism. God only knows why I didn't become some twisted crossdresser or transsexual/transgendered wierdo.
I think gays and dudes like Pamperchu just need Jesus. If they had Jesus they'd bvecome normal and straight. Please pray for gays and wierdos like Pamperchu that Jesus will heal their damaged, sick minds.

Public Enemy Number One
10-26-2009, 06:54 PM
To me, it seems the normality of homosexuality and the rise of homosexuality figures are indeed the consequence of social engineering. The very purpose of this process is unclear but its consequences are obvious. A decrease in heterosexuality implies a decrease of births. The feminisation of men and the masculinisation of females implies a decrease of manly behavior and attitudes among men and wommanly behavior and attitudes among women with multiple consequences on its own (eg. the confusion of male and female characteristics and roles within society). Also, the gradual replacement of marriage as a sacred bond between a man and a woman that was once intended to provide a safe and stable environment for offspring by a more mundane bond between any two people who are sexually and emotionally engaged in a monogamous relationship has a significant impact on the perception of this institute. Whatever is the purpose of this social change, I'm not very confident in its outcome.


I agree! First the Satanists take Jesus out of the school room. Then the parents twist their kids brain so they can't think straight.
My parents tried to twist up my mind. They homeschooled me and made me wear dressess and girls clothes allthough I am a guy! When the Coven met, every sexual abnormality and abomination was practiced in their orgies.

Out of the Box
10-26-2009, 07:08 PM
I think gays and dudes like Pamperchu just need Jesus. If they had Jesus they'd bvecome normal and straight. Please pray for gays and wierdos like Pamperchu that Jesus will heal their damaged, sick minds.

I'm not sure how Jesus has ANYTHING to do with it?!?

I agree! First the Satanists take Jesus out of the school room. Then the parents twist their kids brain so they can't think straight.

Again.... Jesus has nothing to do with it...

My parents tried to twist up my mind. They homeschooled me and made me wear dressess and girls clothes allthough I am a guy! When the Coven met, every sexual abnormality and abomination was practiced in their orgies.

You're terribly confused it seems... I can't make any sense out of your understanding of reality.

makaveli
11-03-2009, 06:05 PM
rather then homosexuality being there to controll the amount of human beings I believe its their to debalance humanity and so controll them better. I'm not saying that homosexuality is neccecarily wrong but I believe its currently being pushed so hard (will and grace homo fashiondesigners, brokeback mountain) that there must be a reason behind it.

samsamsonsoy
12-07-2009, 06:25 PM
Does anyone know of any research done to compare the increase in the popularity of homosexuality and the decline in birth rates during the same period? I feel that homosexuality is not only a form of population control, but also anti-family. Entire families are broken up when a person choose this lifestyle. I know we have some rainbow people on this site maybe you can weigh in.


Population control is not there agenda with homosexuality. They are actually a bunch of queers.

New World Order Conspiracies - SCOTTISH RITE FREEMASONS The men who dare to wear dresses in public (http://newworldorderconspiracies.webs.com/apps/blog/show/2187174-scottish-rite-freemasons-the-men-who-dare-to-wear-dresses-in-public)

BlueAngel
12-07-2009, 10:09 PM
Population control is not there agenda with homosexuality. They are actually a bunch of queers.

New World Order Conspiracies - SCOTTISH RITE FREEMASONS The men who dare to wear dresses in public (http://newworldorderconspiracies.webs.com/apps/blog/show/2187174-scottish-rite-freemasons-the-men-who-dare-to-wear-dresses-in-public)

Proper English grammar would be "THEIR" agenda and not "THERE" agenda.

Population control would be the outcome of a society that was not heterosexual.