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truebeliever
02-27-2005, 07:22 PM
It's been my strong opinion for some time that theres no rift in the NWO and that China is a complete creation of the West.

It lives and dies with Western Capital and therefore is under Western Capital control.

Here is a news article which exemplifies this...
http://www.khilafah.com/home/category.php?DocumentID=10759&TagID=2

How does China benefit from U.S corps bringing in jobs when there will be no one to sell the goods too?

If the U.S goes down...EVERYBODY goes down which is EXACTLY what 'they' want.

Lots of chaos...lots of Police State crack downs.

Which is why the Elite are pouring into Australia and New Zealand. They know the jigs up.

An awful lot of Israeli/Jewish immigration down here to.

The great shame is it does'nt have to be. If the U.S defaults...so what? The wheat is still in the fields, the car you brought on credit will not spontaneously combust...the Japs cant tow Manhatten back to Tokyo harbour so...so what?

Money and the so called 'economy' is just an idea. Nothing more. When the money goes...so what?

Of course it will not be 'so what' for alot of people at the bottom.

Get with friends and family and form communities. Barter and get ready to work for your daily bread. Ideally get some property or at least get a garden going. Pull out those ridiculous palm tree's and get some potato's and tomatoes happining.

With enough people involved and a good quantity of ammunition you should be able to ride it out. :-?

Of course it may not come to that and they may just back off.

Remember all that we need to live well is available in spades...money only eases the transfer of goods and services between people...it is a means not the end...find another means.

In the end we are all about to find out just how much we really need each other. By getting to know your neighbour your increase your chances of doing well in the possible chaos to come.

If we turn into beasts out for ourselves the little slimy bastards have won.

Jimbo
02-27-2005, 07:29 PM
Economic Collapse: Who Benefits ??? - :-o :-o :-o

Every Government in the face planet... but in descending order.
8-)

truebeliever
02-27-2005, 07:34 PM
Right on Jimbo...yours was far more to the point.

Thats why i dont believe a huge terrorist attack on the U.S is nescessary...of course that does'nt exclude attacks by Wall Street and Co...

Jimbo
02-27-2005, 07:48 PM
What is “Terrorism” ? Who are the “Terrorists” ? - :-o :-o :-o

It depends on who’s “definition” we use…
8-)

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\xfer\Photos\definition_of_terroris m_00.jpg

truebeliever
02-27-2005, 07:53 PM
By attack by Wall Street I mean economic attack like forcing the dollar to collapse by installing a monkey disguised as a human called George.

Jimbo
02-27-2005, 08:05 PM
Economic Collapse !!! - :-o :-o :-o

I understood what you meant. I just threw that in there for those (who are still not sure) who do not understand "what's really going on" in the "world, & might be "hopefully reading" these posts. Those that still believe that getting the paper every morning is going to keep them safe & ahead of the game. I feel for my fellow man or woman. I believe that we can perhaps not be able to beat them physically, but we can certainly beat them "spiritually"... The "soul" is way more "powerful" than the "ego"...
8-)

truebeliever
02-27-2005, 08:19 PM
Yeh. sorry. Sometimes i worry i'm not specific enough....regardless,

We cant lose. It's just a matter of how many will die.

Already that runs into the millions.

Fortunately mostly brown and yellow people.

When the whites start dying in large numbers maybe something will change...how cynical of me.

I'm actually optimistic Jimbo. I think they will back down. That of course is my view when i'm having a good day.

People are waking up.

The key for me is to get people to not fall for the WW3 stuff and armageddon.

No fate but what we make.

The Almighty gave us free will. That is the test.

The Almighty wants human beings who come to him willingly, not out of fear but respect and awe.

When i walked into a siversmiths shop and saw his fine works i was in awe of his craftsmanship and respected him greatly.

Why cant we do the same with God?

When I reflect on the fact that I exist at all i am in awe. When i open and close my hand at will i'm in awe...life and the universe is simply amazing.

When i see a baby born im in awe.

There could just as easily be NO life...NO existence and only darkness.

Till human beings get their sense of awe back we will never repect the creator and the life right in front of us.

We take it for granted that life is EVERYWHERE when all that we know for sure is that this little blue planet in an infinite universe is all we know.

I'm having a good day so i'm optimistic. If the coffee at the cafe i'm about to go to is bitter my perspective could change.

Best to you Jimbo.

nohope187
02-27-2005, 08:48 PM
I guess you never go to Starbuck's, eh, True? :-P

Jimbo
02-27-2005, 08:49 PM
Best Wishes !!! - :-) :-) :-)

Likewise, to you too, “mate”…
8-)

55132
02-27-2005, 10:26 PM
the people who hold your mortage, and all the debt you acumulated are the ones that benifit because they will keep everything you ,your company or your country has to cover the debt. they create the slump and make humungus amounts of money. besides this they eliminate as many non jewish iluminati fortunes as they can.

just like in the great depression of 1929 the banks took control of hundreds of thousands of farmland and the farmers where left out in the cold. not to mention the vast numbers of Christian millionaires who became poor in less than a day.


as you well know the currency is just a paper that says you got certain assest but the paper is not the asset nor is it yours. when the economy crashes it ususlly means that there is no cash for everyone but only for your jewish iluminati banker who will wipe you clean. (remeber that all banks are chartered by the federal reserve so while it migh appear as non iluminati in thruth it is because its under their control)

while everyone fights for what is left, to feed their dying children, the money merchants will be counting all they took eating,drinking and enjoying their fortunes thinking that they have seved there god well.

thats what they have always done and will always do. until the the day of the Lord.

truebeliever
02-28-2005, 08:01 AM
Agree 55132.

Nah NH...no starbucks in West Oz though they have it in the East I think...ask my good buddy Oz Cynic.

Fortunately the coffee was excellent and I consumed 2 large mugs. The sea breeze was in though and it was a little chilly on the coast.

All in all a good day so the forecast is for NWO backdown and paradise for all.

Will update.

igwt
03-08-2005, 12:29 PM
[quote]
truebeliever wrote:


"...Fortunately mostly brown and yellow people..."

truebeliever
03-09-2005, 04:10 AM
Jeez IGWT...you had to edit it...

Chuckle chuckle...what are you? Privately employed agitator?

Could'nt you come up with something better?

How about this...I hate Jewz. I hate coloured people. I hate women...

There ya go...some quotes for you to use.

8-)

eddie
03-09-2005, 05:25 AM
i thought this might help the ones who are not so good in economics at goverment level.
:-)

eddie
03-09-2005, 08:19 PM
:-) http://www.abelard.org/inflation.htm#gvnt-love

marypopinz
03-09-2005, 08:31 PM
Most interesting Eddie.

And now for inflation

Not satisfied with seignorage, and thinking it a good wheeze anyway, governments eventually caught on to the advantage of producing even more paper over and above that 'needed' [12] for trade. Once more, government gets goods for virtually nothing in exchange for the extra money that it prints. This surplus money has all the various advantages for the government delineated elsewhere and a very great deal of disadvantage for the average member of the population. But then, whoever suggested government was your honest friend?

There is another prime manner in which inflation can occur. This is when an economy shrinks, for then there are less goods while the amount of money remains the same. Strangely, a great many commentators confuse a growing economy as inflationary and a contracting economy as deflationary, such is the innumeracy abroad in the land. The confusion seems to be that as an economy expands, so labour becomes in short supply; thus the price of labour increases and this rising price becomes confused with inflation.

Any rising price in one part of the economy will always be matched with falling prices elsewhere in the economy, as long as both the supply of money and the propensity to trade remain stable (see also velocity of money). Inflation, on the other hand, is due almost always to the government printing worthless money in order to cheat you out of your property. Inflation results in a general rise in prices, not a rise in prices for a good that is currently in short supply. Naturally the government does everything it can in order to confuse the two situations, constantly lying and pretending that rising wages or some such is 'causing' inflation. Most are taken in by this, after all government also widely controls the universities and has a cosy relationship with the media and banking combines.

http://www.abelard.org/inflation.htm#gvnt-love

Saturnino
03-15-2005, 06:12 AM
The answer is banks. They will repossess all the collaterals on loans they made with their non-existent money. It is during the recessions that they get their hands on real material wealth.

marypopinz
03-15-2005, 08:08 AM
They rape the people while they work(taxes) then go back to reap their rewards of recession - pillaging and plundering any assests that remain at bargain basement prices. Understanding this world sometimes makes me sick to my stomach.

Saturnino
03-16-2005, 08:50 AM
My friends from rich First World countries...
you are just beginning to feel what is like to be ripped off by the bankers and government. Here in Brazil we know it firsthand. People have 10 times less income than in the US. 10 times !
All the money the government takes from us goes to the IMF bankers. It has been like this since the 1800s, when Brazil got into debt with ...guess who...England.

They always find traitors of our country who will sell the people`s wealth for a condo in Miami and an account in Switzerland. Do you know who is the president of our Central Bank ? Meirelles, who used to be CEO of Fleet / Bank Boston ! The former minister of economy used to be a sidekick of Soros !

And the president of Brazil says he is a socialist ! They are ALL in the same side, i.e., against us.

So, don`t complain about your situation...you need at least 50 years of exploitation to go down to our level. (sigh...)

marypopinz
03-16-2005, 09:01 AM
That's what I mean. Makes you sick to understand what they are doing - same old song and dance all over the globe effecting how many families? Debt. The bankers are clawing it back from all sides - individually to nation by nation?

I fear cash will be a thing of the past. How will the poor survive? Better than the "rich", is my bet. And the "elite" think they're safe? They are the biggest fools of all. Their time is coming and it's not gonna be pleasant.

Saturnino, you are correct in your assertion. I appreciate how far up the ladder I began. Had I been born elsewhere, my life would not be as it is. I consider my family blessed and I do thank God, daily.

Saturnino
03-17-2005, 06:43 AM
Mary,

I do thank God too, for in the midst of all this mess, He has been faithful to His word and I have never missed anything.

The problem we face now is that, even though we never get a loan or buy on credit, the government will make the debt for you and make your children pay for it in taxes. No escape...

get_real
03-17-2005, 07:30 AM
Saturnino wrote:
My friends from rich First World countries...
you are just beginning to feel what is like to be ripped off by the bankers and government. Here in Brazil we know it firsthand. People have 10 times less income than in the US. 10 times !
All the money the government takes from us goes to the IMF bankers. It has been like this since the 1800s, when Brazil got into debt with ...guess who...England.

They always find traitors of our country who will sell the people`s wealth for a condo in Miami and an account in Switzerland. Do you know who is the president of our Central Bank ? Meirelles, who used to be CEO of Fleet / Bank Boston ! The former minister of economy used to be a sidekick of Soros !

And the president of Brazil says he is a socialist ! They are ALL in the same side, i.e., against us.

So, don`t complain about your situation...you need at least 50 years of exploitation to go down to our level. (sigh...)

Saturnino, thanks for your message. I agree. But listen, working class US citizens are just hanging by a thread these days. Evene though this is the riches country in the world. If the government were to take away the material things and their home, they have nothing in their pockets or just a couple of hundred bucks in the bank. But still I know what you are saying. We have more opportunities here, and not between a rock and a hard place--yet!!

US middle class to poor are not prepared in anyway to survive if such a thing were to happen. Who is? Most are not creative, not able to economize effectively. I hate to say that!
And that is because they feel that everything they have---they actually need. But then you have those that do not have the fancy material gadgets and gizmos. They only know this type of life, but masquerade in an everyday "everything's fine" costume.


I for one do not want "50 years" of exploitation.
Though at times I'm treated like sh-t in the country I was born in. I have no value here, and that's another story! Many, many people feel they are not needed, they can be replaced.
At times, I look back and say, that for someone born in this country of parents who came with only a hundred bucks in their pocket, I am lucky.

But then again I say-----"for now"!!

Saturnino
03-17-2005, 04:31 PM
What keeps this country together is basically 2 things:

1) food is extremely cheap. Nobody starves in Brazil, not even the most miserable person. People are generous and they help each other.

Our socialist/globalist president is working in a hoax and a lie called Fome Zero, (Zero Hunger) , and says he will give food to all Brazil. The liar has not given anything to anyone, it is just one more way to give a number and an ID chip card to people and let the money be stolen by government. Now he says the UN should have a global tax for eliminating hunger...beware !!!

2) family still matters. Unemployed people are simply going to live in the back of the house of the parents, uncle, etc. They share whatever they have and life goes on.

I fear for the US because 1 and 2 doesn`t apply for you. When things get rough, a banana will still cost you 1 dollar, not 5 cents like here. And family ties are weak in the US.

But even in Brazil the globalists are finding ways to destroy this last salvation in times of crisis...they raise up the property taxes, they privatize water and light, they tax the food, so even your parents won`t be able to help you anymore. In Bolivia, the globalists tried to tax the RAIN WATER ! (huge reaction) What are slums (favelas) if not houses of people who can`t pay property taxes ? They also steal the electricity.

That`s a vision of the future...a huge favela, and everybody with their dole ID cards.

Paris_hawks
04-09-2005, 10:20 PM
The Federal Reserve Bank is not part of the U.S. Government and never has been...It is a Private Corporation, major shareholders of which are some of the larger financial institutions like Morgan Stanley, larger shareholders of Morgan Stanley are Banks of England, ie Lazard Brothers, Rothschild etc. Not to mention numerous ties between members of the boards of these institutions. Many board members are also involved in secret societies which we all know about or have heard of. But the main point I wanted to make, because I noticed some in this thread are unaware, that the US has a central bank type of system like most other countries in the world. In the US it is called The Federal Reserve and Americans are led to believe that it is their government which prints the cash...uh uh...the gov issues bonds (promise to pay back) and the fed prints the money right off a press, they exchange money for bonds, Then the fed charges interest on the money owed. In Canada we passed the Bank Act in 1911 or so, the U.S.A. passed a similar act giving away their power to print money to the bankers. Therefore the government has no power except what the bankers give the nod to.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws."
Mayer Amschel Rothschild, 1790

nohope187
04-10-2005, 05:26 PM
So, don`t complain about your situation...you need at least 50 years of exploitation to go down to our level. (sigh...)
"!![/quote] I'm thinkin' within the next five years, easilly. Look how weak the dollar is now and how many manufacturing/engineering jobs exist in India and China. :-P

Dreak
07-03-2005, 10:49 AM
Good job Paris..

I was gonna reply something to that line..but you beat me to it..

Unfortunalty you missed one thing..
you said "Then the fed charges interest on the money owed." thats not correct..

whats owed ?

YOU ALL NEED TO RESEARCH MONEY !!
YOU ALL NEED TO RESEARCH THE CONSTITUTION !!

Peace Dreak

Dreak
07-03-2005, 10:53 AM
politly speaking..you are slightly mistaken TrueB.

Research more ..

Peace Dreak

rangergord
07-04-2005, 12:34 PM
truebeliever wrote:
It's been my strong opinion for some time that theres no rift in the NWO and that China is a complete creation of the West.

It lives and dies with Western Capital and therefore is under Western Capital control.

Here is a news article which exemplifies this...
http://www.khilafah.com/home/category.php?DocumentID=10759&TagID=2

How does China benefit from U.S corps bringing in jobs when there will be no one to sell the goods too?

If the U.S goes down...EVERYBODY goes down which is EXACTLY what 'they' want.

Lots of chaos...lots of Police State crack downs.

Which is why the Elite are pouring into Australia and New Zealand. They know the jigs up.

An awful lot of Israeli/Jewish immigration down here to.

The great shame is it does'nt have to be. If the U.S defaults...so what? The wheat is still in the fields, the car you brought on credit will not spontaneously combust...the Japs cant tow Manhatten back to Tokyo harbour so...so what?

Money and the so called 'economy' is just an idea. Nothing more. When the money goes...so what?

Of course it will not be 'so what' for alot of people at the bottom.

Get with friends and family and form communities. Barter and get ready to work for your daily bread. Ideally get some property or at least get a garden going. Pull out those ridiculous palm tree's and get some potato's and tomatoes happining.

With enough people involved and a good quantity of ammunition you should be able to ride it out. :-?

Of course it may not come to that and they may just back off.

Remember all that we need to live well is available in spades...money only eases the transfer of goods and services between people...it is a means not the end...find another means.

In the end we are all about to find out just how much we really need each other. By getting to know your neighbour your increase your chances of doing well in the possible chaos to come.

If we turn into beasts out for ourselves the little slimy bastards have won.


Europe/EurAsia are king. The Americas are to be farms, forests and mines. Why do you think exploitable resources are off limits?

Jimbo
10-26-2007, 12:37 AM
The NWO's elite~!