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01-27-2006, 04:22 PM
2006 01 27
By Henry Makow Ph.D | savethemales.ca

Greg Hallett's provocative book "Hitler Was A British Agent" depicts war as a ghoulish illusion conjured by occult magicians in order to gradually degrade, destroy and eventually enslave humanity in world government.

Hallett's claim that Hitler was a "British" agent is based on the testimony of a shadowy network of retired intelligence agents. While he fails to provide documentary proof, Hallett does offer persuasive circumstantial evidence.

For example, Adolph Hitler was in England in 1912-1913, a fact supported by his sister-in-law's book: "The Memoirs of Bridget Hitler"(1979). Historians apparently have ignored this startling information. (If Hallett is right, historians have sanitized Hitler and made him more credible than he actually was.)

Hallett says Hitler spent February to November 1912 being brainwashed and trained at the British Military Psych-Ops War School at Tavistock in Devon and in Ireland. His sister-in-law describes him as completely wasted when he came to them immediately afterward.
Article from: http://www.savethemales.ca/

Drew_J
02-04-2006, 04:13 PM
Langer and Icke claim Salomon Rothschild is Alois' father. I emailed Makow about this and he said Hallett mentions something about a gang bang.

Jimbo
02-04-2006, 05:13 PM
Hitler – A “Satanic Rape” Bastard - :-o :-o :-o

Hitler – A “Satanic Rape” Bastard

<img src=http://www.hermes-press.com/hitler1.gif>
Hitler (http://www.hermes-press.com/hitler1.gif)

Hitler – A “Satanic Rape” Bastard

Not surprised at all that the “bastard” was the result of a “grotesque & satanic rape.” It kind of fits in w/ his dark & repulsive personality. I can’t believe that anyone, in the name of “patriotism,” would be crazy enough to follow the orders or obey this “whacked out of his brains” maniac. It looks like they all got the “self-destruction” they deserved for being such “idiots.”

Thank God for "Freedom Of Speech"...
8-)

Draken
02-05-2006, 03:17 AM
If Hitler was a “satanic rape” bastard - a "“whacked out of his brains” maniac" with a "dark&repulsive personality" hell-bent on “self-destruction” then would you please explain the effort of Hitler and the National Socialists to save and document as much of European architecture and art as possible in the middle of the war, instead of focussing their time and financial efforts on fighting the Communists?

This photographic archive http://www.zi.fotothek.org/ was compiled and documented by the National Socialists between 1943 and 1945.

Could you also explain how it was that the cultural life, especially music life, flourished under both National Socialism and Fascism and why these political parties would patron great European musical artists if they were all "self-destructive" and genocidal and murderous?
http://www.ety.com/HRP/rev/aryanmusic.htm

Why would Hitler want to save European high culture?

Jimbo
02-05-2006, 11:16 AM
Was Hitler Insane, Or Not ? - :-o :-o :-o

Was Hitler Insane, Or Not ?

Was Hitler Insane, Or Not ?

You can be insane & still like classical music. You can be insane & enjoy killing innocent or otherwise, anyone. You can be insane & pretend you care about the cultural heritage of your country, in this case pre-WWII Germany. That's not too hard to understand, or is it? Hitler is the lowest form of humanity we have ever experienced, right next to Fidel & others.

He was obviously insane to think that committing all of those atrocities against his own country & others was going to leave him unscathed, & to then be able to enjoy anything left. That's a good point you, yourself, brought up. Only someone insane enough can think of such un-accomplishable tasks such as genetic or social cleansing of any kind & think that the people left are going to be any better than the ones killed.

As a matter of fact it is not unusual for people like Hitler to enjoy classical music, the arts, science, secret knowledge, philosophy, the esoteric, the occult, etc. The same way you can be insane & be an "idiot" of any kind, or a beggar on the street. Insane people are just like anybody else. They come in every kind, color, race, & from any ideological genre.

The same way just because someone is an "idiot" that doesn't make them "insane." Anyone could be an "idiot" & still have some "common sense, humanity, love, & morality." Qualities Hitler didn't obviously have developed to any considerable degree...

If that doesn't make sense, I can't help you...

Thank God for "Freedom Of Speech"...
8-)

Barbara
02-05-2006, 02:16 PM
Unfortunately for you, Jimbo, you are the one who needs help, not Draken.

All the information you regurgitated in your post is merely the propaganda used against the Germans and Hitler prior to World War ll, and later, after the war, to extort money from Germany in the form of reparations. In war, TRUTH is always the first casualty.

Were it not so horrendously profitable for those pseudo victims and their UN mandated state of Israel, the history of World War ll would just take it's place in the history books as yet another bloody chapter to be studied by bored high school students.

The Holohoax is the cash cow of the jews, the club they hold over the head of every country to secure special treatment and extort money, even to make the discussion of the Holohoax a crime punishable by imprisonment in some Western countries. No other subject known to man is forbidden to be discussed except the Holohoax. Could it be they have much to hide? Like the truth, perhaps?

Hitler's only "final solution" for the jews was forced immigration/repatriation to the Soviet Union to join their fellow Communists. He encouraged immigration to England, America and Palestine, giving jews permission to leave.

It is a fact of history that most Communists were jews, led by jews, who took over Russia and then set about to spread their poisonous doctrine to the West. Most jews today are still Communists but they are now known as Neo Conservatives
while the doctrine, aims and methods remain the same. Lies, lies and more lies and then war.

First of all, there were not 6 million jews in all the areas occupied by Germany during the war. Did Hitler import some from the United States and South America for his dastardly plans??

Secondly, over 3 million filed for and received reparations from the German government for time supposedly spent in the camps and work performed there. No proof required, if they filed, they collected. That's jewish math for you. BTW, they filed those claims mostly from Israel. I find that somewhat strange myself.

The world population of jews showed several million increase by 1949, despite the fact that they claimed to lose 6 million during the war. That's some more jewish math.

Many "survivors" claim they were in several different camps, over several years including Elie, the weasle, Weisel. Why, I ask you, would any country bother feeding and housing millions of people during wartime when food is scarce, only to exterminate them? That makes no sense at all.

They also had medical care in the camps because the weasel was in the hospital with a broken ankle when the camp was in danger of being over run by the Bolshie Communists. He and his father chose to leave with the Germans. They could have waited to be "liberated."

Face it, if the Germans only wanted to exterminate the jews, they could have used the method the Soviet jews used on the Polish Officer Corp in the Katyn Forest. Line 'em up on their knees by a ditch, put a bullet in their brain, push them in, spread dirt over them and then blame someone else, in this case the Germans. A whole lot faster and cheaper, wouldn't you say?

The camps in Germany were already in existence before the war because they were work camps where criminals were sent for punishment. They weren't stupid like us, spending billions to build heated and air conditioned prisons so miscreants can laze around on their ass all day and watch TV while we work ours off to pay for their incarceration. That is why the sign read "Work Makes Free."

Auschwitz was a Buna Rubber Plant and they used convict labor to replace Germans who were off fighting the war, to keep the factory going, producing tires and other rubber products for the Reich. They were also working on developing a synthetic rubber there, since their supplies of raw material from South America were being affected by the war. It was never once bombed by Allied Aircraft though they flew over it often. Fancy that.

It was never an extermination camp and no jews were gassed or otherwise intentionally killed there. Period. They needed the help too badly, in the first place.

As far as Hitler the man, Dubya and his predecessors couldn't shine his shoes. Read the writings of Degrelle who probably knew him better than anyone else. Hitler never sold out his country to the enemy like our Congress and Senate have done either, being bought off by our own taxpayer dollars recycled through Israel.

Before you buy into and spread the lies about Hitler, let me remind you that the real jewish "holy book," the Talmud, says that Mary, mother of Jesus, was a whore who was gang raped by Roman soldiers, making Jesus a bastard. Sound familiar. Next thing you know they will claim that Hitler is in hell boiling in a pot of excrement as they claim about Christ. Maybe the pot is big enough for two, who knows.

Jimbo
02-09-2006, 02:14 PM
Jesuits & The Evil Serpent - :-o :-o :-o

Jesuits & The Evil Serpent

"Black Pope" And Jesuits Have The Evil Serpent's Body Wrapped Firmly Around America And Going In For The Kill
http://www.arcticbeacon.com/9-Feb-2006.html

Christian Symbols ???
<img src="http://www.christiansymbols.net/cross/image147.jpg">
Rebated Cross (http://www.christiansymbols.net/cross/image147.jpg)

From:
http://www.christiansymbols.net
http://www.christiansymbols.net/cross_page13.htm

<img src="http://www.cuttingedge.org/ahpimages/ACFD534.gif">
The Secret History Of The Jesuits (Book Cover) (http://www.cuttingedge.org/ahpimages/ACFD534.gif)

The Secret History Of The Jesuits - Book - Roman Catholicism
"Hitler & The Vatican's involvement in world politics..."
http://www.cuttingedge.org/detail.cfm?ID=214

Hitler, The Jesuits & The Vatican ??? :-o :-o :-o

Where does the Vatican fit in?
http://www.clubconspiracy.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=1300&forum=13&post_id=10333
8-)

DoutorMartin
04-23-2006, 01:39 PM
The Holohoax is the cash cow of the jews
The strong arguments begin in Mein Kampf and end in photos and witnesses. Did zionists forged Hitler´s book ??
Nowadays, we know that the jews were not the only victims, and that they took advantage of crims that envolved jews, slavs, gypsies, communists, social-democrats, homosexuals, Jehovah's Witnesses, Disabled people etc...Of course that the winners exaggerated, telling us about death camps, when they were usefull in labour.

Could it be they have much to hide? Like the truth, perhaps?
yes!! not the truth that there were no crims, but the truth that those crims were not only directed to the jews.

Hitler's only "final solution" for the jews was forced immigration/repatriation to the Soviet Union to join their fellow Communists.
Are you sure??

He encouraged immigration to England, America and Palestine, giving jews permission to leave.
Are you sure ??

It is a fact of history that most Communists were jews
Oh really ?? Ok, so let´s start putting here names of jews who are/were communists. I´ll start to give you one:
Trotsky --> Joined the Bolchevists in 1917.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Case_of_Trotskyist_Anti-Soviet_Military_Organization

You continue the list...

Most jews today are still Communists but they are now known as Neo Conservatives
That´s a very smart thing to say. care to explian...

First of all, there were not 6 million jews in all the areas occupied by Germany during the war.
I know, but imagine what happens if they find out there were 6 million people killed ( some jews included ) ??

DoutorMartin
04-23-2006, 01:46 PM

George_Bush
04-24-2006, 10:22 AM
THE DESPOT OF THE BLOOD OF ZION!
Seig Hiel mein furrier!

http://www.radiofreemind.net/images/BushJrSiegHeil.jpg

earthspirit
04-24-2006, 10:30 AM
Now lookee here! Isn't he just waving bye-bye?

George_Bush
04-24-2006, 10:38 AM
earthspirit wrote:
Now lookee here! Isn't he just waving bye-bye?

Mmm-hmm.

redrat11
09-16-2006, 09:47 PM
Jimbo wrote:
Hitler – A “Satanic Rape” Bastard - :-o :-o :-o

Hitler – A “Satanic Rape” Bastard

<img src=http://www.hermes-press.com/hitler1.gif>
Hitler (http://www.hermes-press.com/hitler1.gif)

Hitler – A “Satanic Rape” Bastard

Not surprised at all that the “bastard” was the result of a “grotesque & satanic rape.” It kind of fits in w/ his dark & repulsive personality. I can’t believe that anyone, in the name of “patriotism,” would be crazy enough to follow the orders or obey this “whacked out of his brains” maniac. It looks like they all got the “self-destruction” they deserved for being such “idiots.”

Thank God for "Freedom Of Speech"...
8-)


Agreed...

This notion that hitler was a "good-guy" is laughable at best, Yes, he did much for his people, and he was trying to "SAVE EUROPE" but, this in no way takes away the FACTS of his SATANIC OCCULTIC MOVEMENT, that's right, I believe the "THIRD REICH" or whatever you term it, was a Satanic Movement in Nature, which "final outcome" would've left the world in worse shape than it already is. Yes, he was a ZIONIST TOOL, and there is still much to learn from that dark chapter of world history, and I intend to investigate.

redrat11
09-16-2006, 11:14 PM
Barbara wrote:


The Holohoax is the cash cow of the jews, the club they hold over the head of every country to secure special treatment and extort money, even to make the discussion of the Holohoax a crime punishable by imprisonment in some Western countries.

Hitler's only "final solution" for the jews was forced immigration/repatriation to the Soviet Union to join their fellow Communists. He encouraged immigration to England, America and Palestine, giving jews permission to leave.





Before you buy into and spread the lies about Hitler, let me remind you that the real jewish "holy book," the Talmud, says that Mary, mother of Jesus, was a whore who was gang raped by Roman soldiers, making Jesus a bastard. Sound familiar. Next thing you know they will claim that Hitler is in hell boiling in a pot of excrement as they claim about Christ. Maybe the pot is big enough for two, who knows.

Not Buying......

The 1st paragraph is true, 2nd Paragraph is true SOMEWHAT, to deny that Hitler did'nt kill any Jews is ludicrous. The Millions figure is way, way, EXAGGERATED! probably less than 10,000 Jews were so called "exterminated" (keep in mind in WAR killing is just that killing.)

As far as the Talmud, well, lets just say that is just pure SATANIC, And as far as Hitler goes, I'm pretty damm sure he's boiling somewhere in HELL. :-o

Now this is for the "twits" on this forum and others like DBSmiths who claim Hitler was "just a good guy" I have yet to read anyone's take on his OCCULTIC PSYCHOSIS, the man was thoroughly brainwashed by that stuff, sort of like the "twits" who love Hitler. Just take the time to read about his SATANIC SPRITUALITY, you'll see for yourself the guy was INSANE at best.

Hitler and Freemasonry



All the supposed abominations, the skeletons and death's head, the coffins and the mysteries, are mere bogeys for children. But there is one dangerous element and that is the element I have copied from them. They form a sort of priestly nobility. They have developed and esoteric doctrine more merely formulated, but imparted through the symbols and mysteries in degrees of initiation. The hierarchical organization and the initiation through symbolic rites, that is to say, without bothering the brain by working on the imagination through magic and the symbols of a cult, all this has a dangerous element, and the element I have taken over. Don't you see that our party must be of this character...? An Order, the hierarchial Order of a secular priesthood."

-Adolf Hitler praising Freemasonry

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/P2.html


http://www.illuminati-news.com/hitler-occult.htm

truebeliever
09-17-2006, 10:20 PM
This notion that hitler was a "good-guy" is laughable at best, Yes, he did much for his people, and he was trying to "SAVE EUROPE"

I guess that qualifies you for "good guy" status does it not? Doing much for your people and "saving Europe" from the Satanic Bolshevik hoards? At least a 5 out of 10 in the good guy scales would'nt you say?:-)

...but, this in no way takes away the FACTS of his SATANIC OCCULTIC MOVEMENT, that's right, I believe the "THIRD REICH" or whatever you term it, was a Satanic Movement in Nature...

Hitler SPURNED Himmlers infactuation with ancient Pagan German culture. He found it amusing at best. Hitler was a Luciferian Rationalist. He was like Napoleon, a beauracrat who liked to see the trains run on time. Hitler is THE perfect example of what endangers us...NOT occultic scallywags off their heads on Meth BUT men who believe in the power of their own intellects and pour scorn on childish, supernatural fetishes.

Hitler in many ways exemplified the TRUE Communist doctrine of blind faith in the material world and the 5 senses. Hitler loved Voltaire and the examples of the "age of reason". Perhaps an ancient Roman Emporer best describes Hitler without the Pagan fetishes though he enjoyed history and obviously LOVED architecture.

which "final outcome" would've left the world in worse shape than it already is.

Depends on your point of view. Not good for the Slav people but very good for the German people. He rid Germany of the money changers and worked FOR Germany as opposed to working for outside influences.

Yes, he was a ZIONIST TOOL, and there is still much to learn from that dark chapter of world history, and I intend to investigate

No, he may have started a Zionist tool but he sure incurred their wrath before the end of the war.

Hitler was a puppet raised by the same financiers of Communist Russia to counter Stalins increasing refusal to follow orders. Just as Saddam was.

Hitler was in DEEP with European Royalty through Georing and Hitler was an ABSOLOUTE anglophile who LOVED England and all it stood for. When he continued to go his own way that ended and Rudolph Hess was sent to see what the problem was.

Hitler was NO madman and NO satanist. He was a Luciferian which is a BIG difference. He worshipped "himself"...not Satan. Hitler was New Age all the way.

You say you will research more? Excellent. Barely %10 of WW2 has been told.:-)

redrat11
09-17-2006, 11:04 PM
Thank You TB.....

Thanks TB for your candid and "enlightening" response, here's where I disagree, I'm not saying you actually think Hitler was "good", my point of view is from a "CHRISTIAN PERSPECTIVE" therefore everything that man did is JUST PLAIN SATANIC! My argument is against a INCREASING LIE being permeated throughout the NET, that HITLER was actaully a CHRISTIAN, this LIE is being told over, and over again, throughout the CONSPIRACY WORLD. Now, I'm aware that such "rubbish" is nothing new under the "NET," but does'nt it strike you as odd, that people fall for the MILLENNIA OLD AS TIME LIES Satan spews out, come on you know in the overall "scheme" of things Hitler was just part of the "GRAND OLE CONSPIRACY" of things.

For Beginining, I'm trying to find who exactly was behind the "NIGHT OF BROKEN GLASS" The Rothschilds you think, or other Satanic forces?

GERMANY
KRISTALLNACHT (Night of Broken Glass) (November 9/10, 1938)

Demonstrations against Jews and Jewish property was widespread throughout Germany on November 9/10, 1938. On Nov.12, Heydrich reported to the Propaganda Minister, Joseph Goebbels, that 101 Jewish Synagogues had been burned down and 76 others demolished. Over 815 shops and businesses were destroyed including the huge Margraf department store on Berlin's Unter-den-Linden which was totally ransacked. This orgy of anti-Jewish violence was the result of the assassination of a German Embassy official, Ernst von Rath, in Paris by a 17-year old Polish Jew in an act of protest against the deportation of his parents from Germany. Thirty six Jews were killed and around 20,000, in particular the more wealthy Jews, arrested and transported to concentration camps. The cost of shattered glass alone throughout the Reich was estimated at six million marks. The whole cost of Kristallnacht (night of glass) had to be paid by the Jews themselves, the Nazis confiscating their insurance money and imposing a collective fine of one billion marks!

Thanks TB, I hope we can Collaborate on finding the truth.


;-)

Obvious Reasons....


Lets leave the Simon "Weasel" Center out of this for reference work. But don't disregard the above reference, that's the real deal!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1275369/posts

truebeliever
09-18-2006, 02:04 AM
You're welcome.:-)

my point of view is from a "CHRISTIAN PERSPECTIVE" therefore everything that man did is JUST PLAIN SATANIC! My argument is against a INCREASING LIE being permeated throughout the NET, that HITLER was actaully a CHRISTIAN, this LIE is being told over, and over again, throughout the CONSPIRACY WORLD.

I did have a litle love affair with Adolph for a short while. When the bollocks of the holohoax and the continual crapola put out by the mainstream on this man got to me I did admire him.

True, from the Christian perspective he was THE perfect anti-Christ.

Hitler HATED Christianity. He writes about his hatred ALL OVER the place in books, government documents and stenographer recordings of his casual conversations.

Hitler considered Christianity a simple Judaic scam which killed off precious European Paganism and ancient Nordic culture. It's not that Hitler had any great love of the ancient world apart from his academic love of history...he used to tease and tolerate Himmler and his Pagan infactuation. Hitler was a "rationalist" in the true sense of the word. He had no time for what he saw as childish notions and grandmother tales of the supernatural. He loved the power of his intellect and in the end simple raw POWER! Just as Churchill, Rooseveldt and the powers behind them do.

Refer to Hugh Trevor Ropers great book "Hitlers Table Talk". Here a stenographer noted Hitlers casual conversations with various guests from 1942 on. VERY interesting stuff. He had some great things to say as well as some revealing things about his world view on other less nice matters.

Hitler viewed Christianity as a FORERUNNER to Communism! He liked Christ as a reformer of the corrupt Judaic Supremacists but scoffed at the notions of His deity. He accuses the Apostle Paul of simply "using" the "fanatacism" of the early Christians (ya know, the people who refused to renounce Christ and were killed. That made them fanatics) for his own ends etc... Hitler also noted that he would NOT attack the Church directly but would simply allow the faith to..."whither on the vine" meaning that he believed people would drop religion in general as they dropped their childish notions of how the world worked...they would become mature "rationalists" like him. Hitler actually rebuked Himmler at one stage for so energetically chasing the Catholic Church out of the general Army believing it best to just let it die a natural death.

Hitler was also well aware of the power of the Church. He had conversations with Mussolini where Mussolini bemoaned how the Church and the Monarchists were such a pain in the arse and depriving him of more power. They were DIRECT opponents of his rule and he had to tread wearily. (Where have we heard that term "overthrowing throne and altar" before?:-))

Anyone who believes Hitler had the SLIGHTEST time for Christ and Christians is in a dream world.

Christ came as a King and yet washed the feet of His apostles and claimed..."let he who is greatest among you be the servant".

Christ is THE direct opponent of worldly power and ambition. ALL those seeking power over others HATE Christ and they HATE Christians.

Even the most virilent Athiest must understand that it IS Christ and Christianity that protects you from the excess of mere men drunk with worldly power. These fools who bemoan Christianty as some sort of Judaic scam are fools of the most extreme order. They claim to fight for liberty and freedom while joining forces with the VERY people who wish to enslave them.

I will ALWAYS be a slave to God and His only begotton Son. I will be a slave to no mere sinful and imperfact man drunk with his own power and priveldge.

I'm sure you wont be either.:-)

truebeliever
09-18-2006, 02:11 AM
For Beginining, I'm trying to find who exactly was behind the "NIGHT OF BROKEN GLASS" The Rothschilds you think, or other Satanic forces?

Well, David Irving has some things to say about it. It's noted that Hitler did indeed have some prior knowledge of this night and was maybe egging Goebbles on. Goebbles writes about this in his diary and some speculate he is simply trying to cover his arse. I dont know.

On the claim that Hitler was right in on the burning of the Reichstag is not so clear. Geobbels also claims in his diary that he was with Hitler that night and both he and Hitler were in shock as they drove down. Hitler also states in his stenographer notations that he believed a certain agitator to be responsible for the burning of the government building.

In the end it's hard to say. All i know is that more lies have been made against this man than ANY other human in history.

I look forward to the unravelling of WW2.:-)

truebeliever
09-18-2006, 02:13 AM
-Adolf Hitler praising Freemasonry

Hitler DESPISED Freemasonry as a threat to his power. He despised especially the Prussian Officer Class and their Masonry affiliations.

redrat11
09-18-2006, 07:14 PM
truebeliever wrote:
You're welcome.:-)

my point of view is from a "CHRISTIAN PERSPECTIVE" therefore everything that man did is JUST PLAIN SATANIC! My argument is against a INCREASING LIE being permeated throughout the NET, that HITLER was actaully a CHRISTIAN, this LIE is being told over, and over again, throughout the CONSPIRACY WORLD.

I did have a litle love affair with Adolph for a short while. When the bollocks of the holohoax and the continual crapola put out by the mainstream on this man got to me I did admire him.

True, from the Christian perspective he was THE perfect anti-Christ.

Hitler HATED Christianity. He writes about his hatred ALL OVER the place in books, government documents and stenographer recordings of his casual conversations.

Hitler considered Christianity a simple Judaic scam which killed off precious European Paganism and ancient Nordic culture. It's not that Hitler had any great love of the ancient world apart from his academic love of history...he used to tease and tolerate Himmler and his Pagan infactuation. Hitler was a "rationalist" in the true sense of the word. He had no time for what he saw as childish notions and grandmother tales of the supernatural. He loved the power of his intellect and in the end simple raw POWER! Just as Churchill, Rooseveldt and the powers behind them do.

Refer to Hugh Trevor Ropers great book "Hitlers Table Talk". Here a stenographer noted Hitlers casual conversations with various guests from 1942 on. VERY interesting stuff. He had some great things to say as well as some revealing things about his world view on other less nice matters.

Hitler viewed Christianity as a FORERUNNER to Communism! He liked Christ as a reformer of the corrupt Judaic Supremacists but scoffed at the notions of His deity. He accuses the Apostle Paul of simply "using" the "fanatacism" of the early Christians (ya know, the people who refused to renounce Christ and were killed. That made them fanatics) for his own ends etc... Hitler also noted that he would NOT attack the Church directly but would simply allow the faith to..."whither on the vine" meaning that he believed people would drop religion in general as they dropped their childish notions of how the world worked...they would become mature "rationalists" like him. Hitler actually rebuked Himmler at one stage for so energetically chasing the Catholic Church out of the general Army believing it best to just let it die a natural death.

Hitler was also well aware of the power of the Church. He had conversations with Mussolini where Mussolini bemoaned how the Church and the Monarchists were such a pain in the arse and depriving him of more power. They were DIRECT opponents of his rule and he had to tread wearily. (Where have we heard that term "overthrowing throne and altar" before?:-))

Anyone who believes Hitler had the SLIGHTEST time for Christ and Christians is in a dream world.

Christ came as a King and yet washed the feet of His apostles and claimed..."let he who is greatest among you be the servant".

Christ is THE direct opponent of worldly power and ambition. ALL those seeking power over others HATE Christ and they HATE Christians.

Even the most virilent Athiest must understand that it IS Christ and Christianity that protects you from the excess of mere men drunk with worldly power.

I will ALWAYS be a slave to God and His only begotton Son. I will be a slave to no mere sinful and imperfact man drunk with his own power and priveldge.

I'm sure you wont be either.:-)

Thanks True Believer

Thank you TB for sharing your great insight and perspectives on this subject.

A SHORT STORY

I would like to share a little story here on how I came to post here on this great website.
I've only had a computer since 9-11-01, on that horrible day I chose to buy a computer to get more informed, (I now have 3 computers, although sometimes I feel like trashing them, since they're nothing more than Goverment spy tools) anyway I used to research and subscribe, and read alot of conspiracy stuff, If you can believe this I NEVER EVER posted anything before on any website, CC was the first forum I ever shared my thoughts on conspiracy stuff, and this was all due to True Believer, when I first joined CC, I got the NERVE to start posting, because TB your belief system mirrored mine almost. this gave me the confidence to not be ashamed of sharing my thoughts and beliefs, I'm in debt to TB for sharing his great knowledge of conspiracies and his take on the LAST DAYS we Christains are seeing on a daily basis, I know, I'm no "POSTER BOY" for Christianity, and I have no intention to be, I simply share my thoughts with the world at large, whether good or bad. And I'll try to moderate myself more on this forum, (as I do get carried away sometimes) please forgive me.



Now back to the Hitler stuff.

redrat11
09-18-2006, 08:35 PM
truebeliever wrote:


I look forward to the unravelling of WW2.:-)


TB, I read with great interest your response on Hitler, and I must say, you make more sense now that you at least AGREE Hitler was Satanic, with that said, I've always trusted this gemtlemans website with respect to WW2 history.

http://members.iinet.com.au/~gduncan/massacres_axis.html

When we analyze what really happened to the Jews during WW2, (and I'm aware of other threads on this forum related to the HOLOHOAX) I notice that not one person has bothered to write about the ATROCITIES Jews committed after their "liberation" by the Allies, this "hidden history" is worthy of some investigation would'nt you say?

http://members.iinet.com.au/~gduncan/

truebeliever
09-19-2006, 12:14 AM
TB, I read with great interest your response on Hitler, and I must say, you make more sense now that you at least AGREE Hitler was Satanic, with that said, I've always trusted this gemtlemans website with respect to WW2 history.

Satanic? If that means he garbed himself in black and sat around Pentagrams with Himmler then I dont agree. You'll never see Hitler dressed in black. The SS was ALL Himmlers doing as were his Thule society connections and love of converting castles into Pagan ritual sites. Also with regards Himmler...he was demanding the planting of herb gardens in Auswitz to ensure adequate vitamin and mineral intake of the inmates.:-) Being the mad killer that he was.:-)

I dont buy the arguments that Hitler was involved with "German Death Cults". I know Italian Mafia people...does that make me Mafia? :-)

With what i've read so far I see Hitler as tolerant and amused by the views of some of those around him but not nescessarily deeply involved.

Hitler was SPECIFICALLY a "Luciferian/Rationalist". He loved the intellect of man, especially his own and worshipped the "age of reason". Hitler would fit in perfectly with todays corporate warrior, lap top in tow with an Excel Spreadsheet handy sporting a "beautiful set of numbers" to explain how the war will be won.

Hitler was a puppet of a combination of European/U.K Royalty and Banking families financing things through Wall Street and the Rockerfella's via the German/American Company "I.G Farbin". Thats English for "Community Of Interests".

It's interesting to note that ALL of the initial financing of Hitler came through I.G Farbin who had a heavy involvement with Rockefella and J.P Morgan (therefore Rothschild). Not one cent flowed from such noted German companies as Krupp and Siemens who i've read were openly hostile to Nazi ideology. At first anyway.

When we analyze what really happened to the Jews during WW2, (and I'm aware of other threads on this forum related to the HOLOHOAX) I notice that not one person has bothered to write about the ATROCITIES Jews committed after their "liberation" by the Allies, this "hidden history" is worthy of some investigation would'nt you say?

http://members.iinet.com.au/~gduncan/

I like the guys site. Very good and a local too me to boot! I might try to get in touch with him.

I note the history of attempts on Hitlers life. He claims 19, i've read over 30. Hitler was either directly in touch with a gaurdian angel of some type (possible, Hitler had a definaite 6th sense) or I'd sware he was being protected some way...maybe through Goerings contacts with European Royalty and their contacts with just about every body including British Intelligence. It's also intersting to note Hitlers use of a 19 pound tungstan carbide "peak cap" to ward off the assassins bullet fro0m long range and from above.

Then theirs Goering. He was giving away invasion times to Belgium Royalty and generally mouthing off that Hitlers was .."always risking everything". (According to Hitlers Adjutant in a doco I saw).

I think Goering was less than loyal to Hitler. I dont buy all the "Ultra Intercepts" stuff and Enigma machine stories with British boffins riding around in gas masks to cover their hay fever while being brilliant and eccentric at the same time. If they could break Ultra so easily and decode WHOLE battle plans within 24 hours why were they having so much trouble with the German Naval Codes? Why did they go to so much effort to get their hands on one by boarding a German sub? Easy...the code books WERE at sea and Goering and his friends at the German High Command could NOT get their hands easily on one.

We note that when Manstein did his brilliant "backhand manouver" on the Russians near Kursk (this was BEFORE the famous Kursk tank battles), stopping them in their tracks and wiping them out...it was done "locally" with no input from Hitler and the "Wolfs Lair". Therefore their was NO CHANCE for the OKW/OKH spyring to get the plans off to who had to know.

Allen Dulles (OSS - then to become CIA) was in Switzerland at this time and it was said he was in charge of the "Lucy Spy Ring" spying at the HIGHEST levels of the German High Command. Later people speculated that this was a cover for the "Ultra Intercepts" and Enigma code breaking. I say it was a REAL spyring run perhaps through General Canaris with involvment from Goering. This is how the German Land Army was defeated and why the Allies had SO MUCH trouble getting at German naval codes. They did'nt have anyone spying their for them! Only later with the development of narrow band radar that could pick up U-Boat peroscopes and increased long range air patrolling were the German Wolf Packs subdued.

David Irving states this is unlikely as there is NO document where someone states that they believe someone is spying at the highest levels of the German armed forces. I find that a little nieve.:-) Given the huge number of assassination attempts, the prevelance of "Prussian Freemasonry" and Goerings well known treason and Royalty connections...why is it so hard to believe? The British are renoun for their subterfuge and European connections so whats the problem?:-)

truebeliever
09-19-2006, 12:17 AM
REDRAT11...thanks for the kind words by the way.:-)

redrat11
09-19-2006, 11:02 PM
truebeliever wrote:


Satanic? If that means he garbed himself in black and sat around Pentagrams with Himmler then I dont agree. You'll never see Hitler dressed in black. The SS was ALL Himmlers doing as were his Thule society connections and love of converting castles into Pagan ritual sites. Also with regards Himmler...he was demanding the planting of herb gardens in Auswitz to ensure adequate vitamin and mineral intake of the inmates.:-) Being the mad killer that he was.:-)

I dont buy the arguments that Hitler was involved with "German Death Cults". I know Italian Mafia people...does that make me Mafia? :-)



Hitler was SPECIFICALLY a "Luciferian/Rationalist". He loved the intellect of man, especially his own and worshipped the "age of reason". Hitler would fit in perfectly with todays corporate warrior, lap top in tow with an Excel Spreadsheet handy sporting a "beautiful set of numbers" to explain how the war will be won.




When we analyze what really happened to the Jews during WW2, (and I'm aware of other threads on this forum related to the HOLOHOAX) I notice that not one person has bothered to write about the ATROCITIES Jews committed after their "liberation" by the Allies, this "hidden history" is worthy of some investigation would'nt you say?

http://members.iinet.com.au/~gduncan/

I like the guys site. Very good and a local too me to boot! I might try to get in touch with him.

I note the history of attempts on Hitlers life. He claims 19, i've read over 30. Hitler was either directly in touch with a gaurdian angel of some type (possible, Hitler had a definaite 6th sense) or I'd sware he was being protected






You know TB, I think my "Lens of History" is way different than yours, I simply look at things purely from a BIBLICAL perspective, for example. with all that's going on in the world today, I view purely that what I see is nothing more than the Bible being "layed out" before my eyes, thus, all the SATANIC players of the ILLUMINATI, if you want to call them that, are simply doing as they're told to do (or else!) I know that alot of these ILLUMINIST lackeys from reading real history books, will simply be EXECUTED on the spot. Edward Gibbons MONUMENTAL Book I believe its called the History of the World,( I'm sure that's the wrong title of the book) But he lays out what is basically COMMON SENSE in these matters, and that is that SATANIC PEOPLE are carrying out the last days plan as they want it proceed.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but you seem to put a good face on this Hitler character, and that's your right, I simply see the man as a satanic brainwashed fool! nothing more nothing less.

Every website on HITLER seems to confirm my beliefs, I realize the "lamestream media" is utterly RUBBISH, but come on the NET seems to verify my feelings on the man, as well as BILLIONS of other folk. can the NET be wrong?

http://www.cephas-library.com/nwo_satanism_of_hitler.html

P.S. By the way TB, you realize even the great DR. Makow confirms that Hitler was Satanic, I simply don't understand your "rationalization" of Hitler being a LUCEFERIAN RATIONALIST please explain the difference? (if you already did'nt already) THX.

Hitlers Satanism...

http://www.crystalinks.com/thule.html

truebeliever
09-20-2006, 02:44 AM
You know TB, I think my "Lens of History" is way different than yours, I simply look at things purely from a BIBLICAL perspective, for example. with all that's going on in the world today, I view purely that what I see is nothing more than the Bible being "layed out" before my eyes, thus, all the SATANIC players of the ILLUMINATI, if you want to call them that, are simply doing as they're told to do (or else!)

We are simply defining terms. I consider someone "Satanic" when they worship Satan. A Satanist BELIEVES in God AND SATAN and simply picks Satan. It's really that simple.

A "Luciferian" is quite different. I could not give you a definate term but Luciferians believe mostly in their own intellect and concepts such as the "age of reason". They deny absoloutly anything not within the range of the 5 senses. They deny "feeling" and would rather play their Playstation than relate to other human beings. They have a love of technology and above all POWER! Hitler was not about to worship Satan who he would consider a threat to his own personal power.

You can say the whole NWO thing is satanic and you are right. It is the desire of Satan to rule the Earth without Gods presence. A pretty silly thing to do when you think about it.:-) Even for satan.

But a Luciferian does'nt believe in God OR Satan...again, he worships himself and to be honest that includes Hitler and just about EVERYONE I know.:-)

Just because Hitler fits the "Luciferian" description well does'nt mean he fits it perfectly. He used to say after all, according to insiders around him..."I am basing my religion on Parsifal. Only when a man takes on the mantle of hero can he do the will of God". Hitler actually mentions God alot...i'm just not sure which one?:-)

If Hitler was openly Satanic then we would see alot of mindless destruction by him and pentagrams. Before you laugh, remember it was the allied bombing campaign that laid waste to Germany and extended the war for 5 long years. Hitler used destruction for specific aims and then stopped. Hitler was a lover of architecture and art (NOT expressionist art) and was well versed in ancient history and religion.

Are you going to say then that this man was an open Satanist? By any definition he was your typical beauracrat and numbers man with a vision for Germany which included the whithering of Christianity and the worship of reason over blind faith. Hitler was not about to start worshipping "Wotan" the ancient German version of the greek God Mars...Hitler worshipped himself and his own will. Consider this well known statement by Hitler to his generals shortyly after the French campaign and I beleieve just before the invasion of the Soviet Union..."[paraphrasing] the final nail is my own will. Without my person it will all fail". Meaning he believed himself TOTALLY irraplaceable.

I might also add that Hitler was ACTUALLY worshipped by many Germans meaning they actually prayed TO him, NOT for him. Hitler was like Pharoe..a virtual God on earth and NOT someone worshipping the "evil one"...catch my drift?

Note also the Scribes and Pharisees who make the Laws of God "of none effect". They too want to worship reason. They too want to be little gods on earth making laws up from the Rothschild built Supreme Court in Jerusalem.

Their is a big difference between wanton destruction like the Bolsheviks and the desire for "fine art and culture" mimiking ancient greece and Rome where ONE MAN can become Emporer or perhaps head of a powerful central government?

I dont fear satanists. I fear Luciferian/Rationalists who consider themselves above ANYTHING but their own intellects which can come up with all sorts of brilliant ways to bring a utopian paradise on earth no matter the cost. The end justifies the means and if a luciferian like Robert McNamara has to plan a bombing campaign in East Asia that will leave 3 million Vietnamese dead then so be it.

http://members.aol.com/kwiersma/excomm/r_mcnamara.jpghttp://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/01.22.04/gifs/mcnamara-0404.jpg
Does this man look like the devil incarnate?

Watch "The Fog Of War". In this doco McNamara details his role in the implimintation and planning of the firebombing to death of 1 million Japanses civilians. Then he details his role in the bombing to death of a further 2-3 million Vietnamese civilians. Lets also remember his role along with General Limnitzer in the firebombing of Germany that sent 600,000 German civilians to their deaths.

Do you think this man rapes little children over pentagrams chanting praises to the evil one? Gauranteed some do, but people like this who have the blood of MILLIONS on their hands will not be found in pagan castles hanging out with former chook farmers like Heinrich Himmler.

I meet luciferian rationalists ALL THE TIME...the father who ignores his childrens needs because he wants to watch the footy. The man who ignores his wife and complains of her "emotions". The man who will sacrifice love for monetary reward and a promotion. The list goes on.:-)

Hitler was a man to be admired in small measure for standing up to the dominant power of the day..."Political Zionism". It's still with us stronger than ever. Only adherence to the Christian faith and the Commandments of Christ will save us and prevent us from falling so far from Grace we end up becoming agents of evil rather than peace. :-)

Jimbo
10-27-2007, 11:36 AM
Control Structures Of The NWO - ??? - :-o :-o :-o

Control Structures Of The NWO
http://www.clubconspiracy.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=3059&forum=15

But There Is Hope – Ron Paul 2008 – U.S. President
http://www.clubconspiracy.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=5895&forum=23

Thank God for "Freedom Of Speech"... An “Informed Citizen” makes a good “Patriot.”
8-)

IlluSionS667
07-28-2008, 05:02 AM
Fact 1 : Hitler was possibly the strongest oponent of the so-called "New World Order" history has known. As a consequence, WW2 was started by the English with the explicit purpose of destroying Hitler's national-socialist system and everything it stood for.

Fact 2 : Loads of anti-NWO literature was published in the Third Reich, some of very high quality.

Fact 3 : Although it is unclear who exactly was the father of Alois Hiedler, it is unlikely that it was a Rothschild.

Fact 4 : The Third Reich is now the most hated regime in the world, largely because of a sort of horror propaganda common for both the British and the Sovjets.

Fact 5 : Although Himmler, Rosenberg and Hess were very interested in Germanic paganism and occultism, Hitler didn't have any interest in that and has always been a staunch supporter of the separation of church and state.

Fact 6 : There is no evidence of connections between high level NSDAP members and the Thule Society. In fact, the Thule Society was declared illegal in the Third Reich along with various other societies that had an interest in the occult. Karl Maria Wiligut was one of the rare exceptions because he was under the protestion of Himmler, who was inspired by Wiligut for his SS mythology.

Fact 7 : Back in Hitler's days, the old elite and the new elite hadn't joined forces yet. If Hitler did indeed receive funds from the Rockefeller's and the Bush's (the old elite), it was because they saw him as a possible ally against the new elite (of which a significant part was Jewish). It is only since the failure of the New Deal that the old and new elite joined forces.



My conclusion : it is very unlikely that Hitler was a British agent.