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Akbar
02-08-2006, 08:10 AM
Racism, Nationalism are errors in social development

"Man, the more he engages the material the more his social life forms and comes into view and his society becomes a social body. And it becomes so social that he may develop his society and see that society as tribal, as family, and his perception of himself as family becomes so strong that he may become racist.

Taking pride in his own race over other races, thinking that his race is the superior race, the super race over other races, or he develops so strongly, he disengages from his spiritual life, his true life, he becomes so powerful as a material force, matter, industry, makes him so powerful that he sees his nation as an industrial nation superior to other nations and that will cause him to become nationalistic, he sees his might, his energy, his security in material things so he becomes nationalistic. My nation, our nation, let us do this for our nation with what's in the mind. What is the excitement about?

Our material power, our great army, our many men, our great weaponry, etc., he becomes so powerful in his own eyes. He promotes nationalism, the glory of the nation. So he's taken off from his spiritual basis and taken away from his spiritual center, his true self. He's taken away from it by engaging the material world and material interests and making his social body so powerful that he worships his own self, his own nation, his own achievements, he worships those things, he glorifies his own accomplishments, this is scripture."

Do we see evidence of this today in a few nations, nationalistic arrogance? How do we deal with it? Bring man back to his true self, a "righteous servant of God".

God's revelation brings man back to his true human nature.

--- Imam W. Deen Mohammed

Ozzy_dopster
02-08-2006, 12:35 PM
That I think is one of the reasons that Yeshua bar Joseph spoke about the spiritual life (Kingdom) within the person. It is internal and soulful, not physical and external.

As nationalism and collectivism spread we may one day recognize the true Weapons-of-Mass-Delusion.

And what makes me sick are those slick show about how the ghetto boy makes good, we see him in a Brooks Brothers suit and driving a Volvo (no offence to Volvo per se) and he tells a heart-rending story of pain, sacrifice, and persistence to get where he is today. Oh, sure. What the media mind killers want us to think is that poor black people can have "The American Dream" also, but they just have to try harder. If done right, it can inspire hope in inner city youth. If done wrong, it reinforces the numbibg lust for the material.

Phooey!!! :-x

Akbar
02-09-2006, 01:00 PM
yes, I think the post speaks for itself in this regard. If we carefully study the post and research what it is saying. Then we should be able to identify several countries that fall under this error in social development.

blackstarr
02-10-2006, 10:07 AM
It seems that most of the Western nations fall under this type of nationalism.

Ozziecynic
02-11-2006, 03:15 AM
:-?Well actually i was under the impression that NWO meant One world Government, eg centralisation of power to universal proporations which is what we have 50% of already by proxy via the UN&US and economically speaking the structure already exists and the world is moving in the direction 100% global government which will be necessary because of Globalism of capital markets.
Therefore anyone that opposes nation states must support the NWO so why the hell are those that believe such even posting on this forum.I suggest because you are lefty infiltrators and supporters of NWO! Between LD,SEC,and others deceivers jumped into cc in recent months you are all turning cc into nothing but an NWO supporters club not opposition to it!

Anyway even if you do believe in globalism(NWO) then akbar a muslim who supports an ultra Islamic fundie global caliphate is hardly the person to agree with fabian style NWO ideals.
So why dont Muslims lead the way Akbar!.Instead they aim to attack and obliterate every european in existence unless they convert to Islam.I find this thread way beyond hypcritical& paradoxical coming from someone like you Akbar considering what Muslims globally have been doing in recent weeks very bad timing for your crediability dont you think!. :-?

Akbar
02-11-2006, 11:01 AM
Oz,
It's hard to rationalize any of your posts. You always seem to respond without thinking. The NWO is not the only idea of one world government. This was an idea based in several cultures including Islam. The nation-state concept is a racist western idea that has not worked for non western countries. The NWO realizes that they cannot work towards controlling the masses by keeping the nation-state concept because it is dead. Only those who are slow to think like you will continue to hold on to a lost concept. The concept I believe in is a nation of people who are bound by the same faith who are not cut off by physical boundaries like the current nation-state. If you want to debate the need of the nation-state, you must first understand the role it plays for the common citizen.

redrat11
02-11-2006, 02:42 PM
Akbar said:If you want to debate the need of the nation-state, you must first understand the role it plays for the common citizen.

Ok, lets see being a American Citizen used to mean having the highest standard of living, and just about the best quality of life throughout the world, However because of Globalism and the Zionist NWO America is being sucked dry of its awsome wealth to support "turd" world countries like yours. Its because you "backwards" people of the world that Citizens of America are being shortchanged, your corrupt goverments can't even manage to feed its own citizens and the list of problems those countries create for themselves are the reason America is turning to a "turd" world country, America is forced to "Equalize" itself to the world, all in the name of the Zionist NWO. thats my opinion Akbar.

blackstarr
02-12-2006, 10:02 AM
It seems that the type of nationalism you speak of is addressed in the post. It seems that it has become an idol that keeps us from reaching our spiritual destiny. Using your response as an example. You call other human beings "turds" because they reside in another part of the world, but exalt a political entity over human life. This is satanic thinking. This is the way of the NWO. Leave the Satanic dark side and come into the light for everlasting life.

redrat11
02-12-2006, 10:16 AM
Blackstarr wrote:You call other human beings "turds" because they reside in another part of the world, but exalt a political entity over human life. This is satanic thinking


No you misread my post blackstarr, I mean turd world countries not turd people, I believe the poor people of those countries are extremely unfortunate to live in those conditions, however It has never been written in the U.S. Constitution that America should build a NWO. I personally don't like this Satanic world we live in I wish God would end this system forever. and bring in the Christ millenium.

blackstarr
02-12-2006, 02:56 PM
The nation-states you speak of were built by the NWO. The demise of the nation-state is just the natural growth of human beings towards his greater spiritual self. No national boudaries can stop that growth.

Ozziecynic
02-13-2006, 04:38 AM
The NWO is not the only idea of one world government. This was an idea based in several cultures including Islam. The concept I believe in is a nation of people who are bound by the same faith who are not cut off by physical boundaries like the current nation-state. If you want to debate the need of the nation-state, you must first understand the role it plays for the common citizen.
I am reading you crystal clear no need for cheap shots just because you have yet to prove me wrong!. The point is noone here would be insane enough to live under your Global Ummah or Caliphate you insane haunch bending ass sniffer because most european people enjoy their freedoms too much!.
Are you really muslim akbar or just a very piss poor impersonator I am clueing up to you Mr Great Kebab stand owner, I believe you could be one very Great fraud!.

Only those who are slow to think like you will continue to hold on to a lost concept.
What slow to think because I happen to believe in Nation states the ONLY institutions that stand between the average individual and the NWO!. You are a kind pro NWO tyrant because you would have us all living under Global shariah law, you dense unthinking inconsiderate Sand Nigger you are a major threat to Western Democracies, noone is interested in your loony ideas least of all me, people like you are the reason i would like to wipe Muslims off the face of the earth right now!:-x

Ozziecynic
02-13-2006, 04:56 AM
The nation-states you speak of were built by the NWO.
:-? The Nations states are the only thing preventing complete UN control thus world government.
If you are against Nation states then by default in you in favour of the status quo of Globalism, Free trade, Multicult etc.. and thus the move towards Global Government!.
So why are you posting on this forum you naive leftie hippie.Most posters are rednecks and hippes like you are not usually welcome so what are you upto with all this drivel weve seen it all before on cc its nothing new!. :roll:

blackstarr
02-13-2006, 02:21 PM
Oz,
I will not get into name calling like you. This is what Satan wants. It seems that your views and your responses are Satanic. How can you propose to stand for good, but always resolve to infantile name calling if you do not have your way. If nation-states were the answer then they would be successful world wide and not only in the West. The nation-state has not been successful neither in Africa or the Middle East. The nation-state is not fighting the NWO, they are only leading mankind to total enslavement. It is the nation-states that are united in fighting an unjust war, which is going to lead to a World War.

eddie
02-14-2006, 02:55 AM
The revolutionary program

In 1848, Karl Marx wrote the Communist Manifesto, under the direction of one group of Illuminists, while Professor Karl Ritter of Frankfurt University wrote the anti-thesis, under the direction of another group of Illuminists. the idea was that those who direct the overall conspiracy could use the differences of those two so-called ideologies to enable them to divide larger and larger members of the human race into opposing camps so that they could be armed and then brainwashed into fighting and destroying each other. And, in particular, to destroy all political and religious institutions.

The work Ritter started was continued after his death and completed by the German so-called philosopher, Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche. Nietzsche helped to develop Racism and then Naziism, which was used to foment World War I and II.
c/p
remember to hate.101. :lol:

Akbar
02-14-2006, 07:05 AM
Ed,
Racism had already begin before Nietzsche and Nazism. The first signs of racism known to mankind begin with Satan, who hated Adam simply because he had a different makeup than him.

blackstarr
02-15-2006, 08:21 PM
Ak,
Is satan white? It does not seem that blacks have the capacity to hate whites and also harm them at the same time, but whites have a history of doing this.

LaDominio
02-16-2006, 04:23 AM
blackstarr wrote:
Oz,
I will not get into name calling like you. This is what Satan wants. It seems that your views and your responses are Satanic. How can you propose to stand for good, but always resolve to infantile name calling if you do not have your way. If nation-states were the answer then they would be successful world wide and not only in the West. The nation-state has not been successful neither in Africa or the Middle East. The nation-state is not fighting the NWO, they are only leading mankind to total enslavement. It is the nation-states that are united in fighting an unjust war, which is going to lead to a World War.

Yes, and to add to that:

"If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every word may be confirmed by the evidence of two or three witnesses. If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector." (Matthew 18:15-17)

Ozziecynic
02-16-2006, 04:27 AM
The nation-state has not been successful neither in Africa or the Middle East. The nation-state is not fighting the NWO, they are only leading mankind to total enslavement. It is the nation-states that are united in fighting an unjust war, which is going to lead to a World War.
:-? Well it is clear you have NO idea what the NWO is then! However this is not surprising considering the mount if idiots that post on kooky conspiracy sites and never seem to give a straight and consistant interpretation of NWO!.

Is it any wonder the majority of joe average citizens think consipracy sites and their advocates, fans etc. are nothing but luntics when fools of your ilk keep muddying the waters!.

So I would ofcause be interested in seeing your interpretation of NWO as you and few others here seem to have everything topsy turvy!.If you cant reply be giving me a correct response it only proves what fraud you are!.

You are ofcause welcome to your world governemnt if you so desire just dont expect honest individuals like myself to sit here wasting my precious time viewing your delibrate lies and disinfo and worse bothering to respond to them as there are plenty of more important things i have to do with my time!.

Infact i know why so many kooks come to cc it s because they now that noone will moderate their posts making it a free for all for all the kooks and idiots out there :-?

I will be quitting CC very soon as the amount hippies left wingers and other idiots is becoming unbearable and Henry seems quite happy as always to play the role of Phantom while his pathetic forum falls to illuminati tatters right under his nose!. CC has become source for disinfo not informed critical info i will therefore be making this one of last posts here for a while!. :roll: :-?

LaDominio
02-16-2006, 05:02 AM
You hypocrite!

You who are lost deep in Iniquity.


At this point, Satanís NWO will surly enslave you, and his wrath will surly engulf you, for no un-righteous individual will survive.

Wake up!

Ozziecynic
02-18-2006, 11:35 PM
http://www.n-tv.de/img/634520_src_path.jpg
Here a parting shot for you Lefties and Mudslums idiots on this forum to consider in your so called opposition to Nationalism!. :lol:

Akbar
02-19-2006, 02:56 PM
Oz,
What would this site be without you?

blackstarr
02-21-2006, 06:58 AM
hopefully more enlighting!