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RUready
03-02-2005, 10:29 AM
with all the discussing and reading we do, how do you see the NWO on a personal scale in regard to you.
what is it that you personally feel that will affect you negatively. forget for a moment the war, the 9/11, satanic cults/what-have-you, your religious beliefs, the media and the horrible images they bring us everyday, kidnapping, etc, etc. what is it that bothers you in regards to YOU---your identity. i've noticed on the site that that seems to be quite a topic. what is the problem with that exactly?
why do I ask this?
some folks feel that as time goes by, a reorganization, change, etc. is necessary.
some are not at least worried about id cards, or new id numbers, finger print id, eye scans, or other related identification means. as well,
people do not feel that they will be taken under control against their religious beliefs. no one
can do that. perhaps the general agenda
of "marking" us is not for evil purposes. don't get me wrong, there are alot of evil minds
burning the midnight oil, however for the
purpose of an identity control system--there must be something to give identity in a peoples in a money/materialistic world. it seems to me that on this site the only time one is concerned about terror, child abuse, 9/11, religious persecution, dumbing of our children, weapons, ufos, super technology, foreign affairs, oil/Bush, occult/masonry is when it is used for tabloid type of discussion, sensationalism. i'm sorry folks, but you seem to forget that it is people who create these things. leave god, satan, lucifer, allah, jehovah, yahweh, devil, baphomet, etc out of it. we've been giving excuses long enough. as far as a second-coming--well, you need to stop waiting for that too. read the bible carefully--over and over a few times, then you'll get it. too often i've read that some of you feel that the only way to rid the world of these things is through your lord. so what is this that you hate, fear, dispise, about the nwo in regards to you. is it something so petty as an id system? c'mon, is that really it?
then my friends, you outta not be in these forums. though i do find them interesting, and i am not in any shape or form part of the people behind the nwo, i tell you this, none of you are here for any other reason than to fill yourselves up with this nwo sensationalism. be truthful to yourselves. you've created a rich world for some people, and then you complain about personal identity, money, cost of living, and such. you don't care as long as you have your home, your vehicle, food, a job, a few buds, and you're on happy street. so if that's the case, that is exactly where they will let you stay. don't worry. don't forget they might not love you, but they love your money. you'll figure out how to keep them of your backs with that, otherwise keeping tabs and record of your identity just lets them know if you are slacking off.

nohope187
03-02-2005, 10:57 AM
There's this thing I value called privacy. I also don't like the govt taking half of my earnings. I don't like being tracked and traced in everything I buy. I don't like having to be told that I must comply with their orders or I will be considered as a criminal. I just hate big brother and I hate the police state.

Draken
03-02-2005, 12:08 PM
Well said RUready.

One of the first things I said on this forum was that in essence people were spending too much time in front of their computer screens and not enough time appreciating the beautiful things in this life.

In the end we're not better than people spending weeks discussing the latest development on American Survivor/Pop Stars/Temptation Island only we discuss the latest coverup, bribe/murder/mind control/conspiracy scandal.

I have not written anything substantial for a while because frankly I'm not sure if it leads in the "right" direction. That, btw, would be towards everyone's individual and wholehearted effort towards spiritual freedom.

Personally, I'm quite fed up with all and every discussion about the latest conspiracy, simply because we can go on discussing it endlessly without it leading us anywhere. In the best of scenarios we're treading water. That's actually what I think the Internet is really for: distraction and misdirection. Sure, a lot of information is published by a lot of worthy and honest people with good intentions but what ACTUALLY happens is that information is getting lost in the violent flood of information, getting mixed with disinfo, misinfo, lies, truths - that's the worst thing: truths are getting flushed down the toilet and forgotten because it's mixed with a lot of crap. I see people on this site discaring valuable truths every day.

We're exposed to so much "information" we get dizzy and finally can't see the difference between truth and falsehood.

In the end I haven't actually seen ANY changes for the better since I joined this forum. I don't mean that there should've been a difference just because you, I - we - discuss important things here. I mean that I actually can't see any changes for the better happening in the future either, just because we're discussing thing here.

It's been said before that the only way to change anything to the better is to lead by example. Sitting in front of a computer and knowing where and how to find great sites with valuable information about the NWO conspiracy is NOT leading by example. The only thing we teach the younger generation is to be passive. They really don't need US teaching them THAT; the State is laughing at us, we're playing straight into their hands helping them underline their subversion of tomorrows' generation.

If we're so well informed and are so on the money, knowing what we claim to know then we really need to take appropriate ACTION to back up all our proud, defiant, self assured words. If we talk the talk, we should walk the walk. We don't walk the walk by sitting in front of our computers screaming "conspiracy!"

This site is getting very big and increasingly difficult to navigate. There's a lot of regulars, a lot of newcomers a few subversives and agent provocateurs and saboteurs...;-)

I recommend all relative newcomers to read the posts of Vlad, Ahmad and myself, if you like what I've written in this post, along with Institute, Protocol, john, crowneagle and 55132 all of whom I think have valuable and interesting things to say and a very comprehensive understanding of NWO global affairs. Apart from these people I would like to warmly recommend marypopinz, freeman and truebeliever simply because they are the VIPs of this site and for a reason: they have their Hearts in the right place.

Truth, Beauty, Love

marypopinz
03-02-2005, 02:25 PM
First, I'm no VIP.

Second, I think Rushdoony's posts are a most fascinating read. He has my vote.

Some of us come here to learn and understand better what we have experienced. Some folks here already think they have it already figured so... Some folks think this is a waste of space and time. That is their perogative. Each to their own.

Back to original question.

The schooling system is a big problem for me as I have three children. The racist police are a big problem as I have three children. A lot of this crap that is NWO directly effects us little folks on a community level.

If I hadn't come here, I'd still believe the fossil fuel theory. Capiche? This site is a huge reference library of info and people's experiences, for myself, so whoever wants to knock it, can. I think this is a valuable place to spend some time and learn about whatever.

Sure it can become a distraction and a diversion. This forum can also be quite entertaining.

Better CC than the goggle box, though!
My two cents.

Draken
03-02-2005, 03:08 PM
Ok, mary. No tongue in cheek then...

DarkChilde3D
03-02-2005, 03:39 PM
The NWO is an enemy that has better equipment and more personnel than my personal army of one. Therefore, tactics that don't bring attention to myself are necessary to shut them out of my family's lives. It is also my responsibility to assist other allies (those with relativly similar views) in equipping themselves to fight the NWO.

These weapons are knowledge, free press, underground press, petitions, and donations for supplies like paper, ink and webspace.

truebeliever
03-02-2005, 06:57 PM
DEATH, DARKNESS, SHEER INSANITY.

Apart from that, i just dont like the thought of a Uni educated, homo, silver spoon fed, child abusing, coke snorting, women abusing, beauracratic twat telling me what i can and cant do from a position of complete, and unanswerable anonymity.

I'll bow down to Allah, Yewah and God and thats it.

Apart from that i'm sure the NWO is a great idea.

Good thread.

55132
03-02-2005, 07:58 PM
ru,

what it is about the nwo? I will tell you

its run by thieves, liars, killers and corrupt men, the kind of people who have no regards for anyone and will do anything to get their way, the world must be told about them, sadly most will never understand and many will choose to try to join them - as if they could, it’s a struggle for knowledge and awareness the things they most hate.

i for one will not be lead by them

you are very keen at double speak, and you know how to plant doubt and memes. but your attitude in belittling betrays you , you are good at mocking but not that good

Jimbo
03-02-2005, 09:35 PM
We Are Not Alone - :-o :-o :-o

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\Xfer\Photos\world_order_00_thru_sa tanic_entanglements.jpg

this
03-02-2005, 10:47 PM
The NWO is not an all important term to me, nor is obsession with the devil etc. So RU, perhaps you are not disparaging my worldview. However since you lack a certain respect for others views and take advantage of a lack of censorship on this site, I should point out a few things.

I'm not a fan of the term NWO or many other labels, I would rather deal in facts and outcomes. The 'NWO' is perhaps to be found on the US dollar bill in latin as the New Secular Order where North America was commonly known as the New World at one time. The preponderance of Masonic and Occult images not only on US currency but in the US Capitol to name two instances is precisely why people's attentions are trained on these secret societies and their influence. We didn't dream this stuff up.

Bush senior is said to have said "Welcome to the NWO" in a speech, on Sept 11th, 1990 or thereabouts. Care to theorize?

truebeliever
03-03-2005, 12:20 AM
One other thing RU.

Try writing smaller paragraphs for ease of reading.

Thanx Henry.

Your turn to be the plant RU!!!!!!!!

marypopinz
03-03-2005, 05:08 AM
I thought on this question last night.

I still believe NWO is a bunch of OLD sick mutha-fcuker's who are a DYING breed. Their days are coming to an end - not ours. We'll go on where they won't know how to survive.

The meek shall inherit the earth. I'm just learning how to cope better in their illusive world by understanding their trickery.

I AM NOT SO EASILY FOOLED, as I am sure many others have also realised within themselves, since learning their little game and the tricks they use to play with our lives.

I honestly cannot believe how naive I was to all this crap. And it's being beamed into my household as truth via the gogglebox? My local media is lying through their teeth too.

The school system tried to feed me bullshit. The shit they are serving up to my children is even worse. They have a sexual agenda in the classrooms now. What the Fcuk???? They think it's O.K.to teach my son it's O.K. to be gay? What must he think of them? What could the teachers do,congregated in the halls, when the boy in grade six KISSED the boy in grade 4? They were all a flutter and my son walked right by and heard the whole conversation??????????????????????????????

The more people learn and understand what is up, they better they can deal with and hopefully sidestep the bullshit in daily life.

Ahmad
03-03-2005, 05:17 AM
Peace RUready,


You said: "leave god, satan, lucifer, allah, jehovah, yahweh, devil, baphomet, etc out of it. we've been giving excuses long enough."


The NWO in my opinion is not a bunch of people, it is a separate distinct invisible race called "the Jinn-beings", their leader is Satan and the evil ones of them are determied to enslave you and me and all humanity.

This NWO cabal has a famous slogan which is what you wrote! "leave God and Satan out of it, there are no such things".

I am not accusing you of anything, i just remind. It's all about God and Satan, it's not about the corrupt leaders, nor is it about the evil bankers or the corporations.

A few of the anti-NWO researchers are honest and free people who believe in God and despise Satan and his continous attempts at enslaving us, maybe that's why i chose to write here.

The majority though are engaged in a state of worshipping Satan (aka, NWO). Just by being dedicated fans to the NWO propaganda (which is transforming rapidly into a big industry), it's something like the corrupt Muslims who pollute their pilgrimage to God's shrine in Mecca by stoning three obelisks (now big walls) in "Mina", this is a proven inovation and inspite of seemingly being a symbol of rejecting Satan, it is actually a flagrant act of "negative worship" since the bond this time is formed by "extreme hate" instead of "extreme love", the two sides of the coin, Satanism.

I for one am not worried about the latest conspiracies, i put my trust in God alone, God promised that He will not burden any soul beyond its means, therefore anybody can do his best to resist any attack on his freedoms within his capability, as for the rest, leave it to God.

The NWO propganda is mainly about converting more fans to Satan, by forming a passive bond, where everyone tunes into the Alpha state, following the propaganda in complete fear or apathy, both of which are condemned by God.

What will defeat Satan and his troops is nothing but an individual revolution, anybody can do it now, just by reshifting your center to God instead of the powerless creatures (all things and people), by knowing that only God can harm or benefit, thus there is no need to worry or get afraid, even if they are knocking on your door!.

Through destroying your personal idols you can achieve freedom, no force on earth can enslave you against your will, enslavement takes two. Attaining salvation and perfect happiness now and forever is possible, just by changing your heart, and being God-oriented.

If you can't say No to your cigarette, your sinful lusts, how and why do you expect to be free!.

Can we afford disregarding God any longer? do you know that all of our miseries, disease, depression and grief are because of not remembering God?. Break free of Satan's grip first and then worry about the conspiracy.

My mission is to offer you a chance to break free by joining the sincere in a united submitters nation, check my website for more details.


[16:51] GOD has proclaimed: "Do not worship two gods; there is only one god. You shall reverence Me alone."

marypopinz
03-03-2005, 05:21 AM
"What will defeat Satan and his troops is nothing but an individual revolution, anybody can do it now, just by reshifting your center to God instead of the powerless creatures (all things and people), by knowing that only God can harm or benefit, thus there is no need to worry or get afraid, even if they are knocking on your door!."

I completely agree.

truebeliever
03-03-2005, 05:53 AM
Yes, I agree Ahmed.

Letting go, relaxing...and then you can start God's work.

But it's the hardest thing you'll ever do.

It's literally the completion of your life.

You're that child again intoxicated with the wonder of the world.

BARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRP!!!!!!!!!!

"oh, my alarm clock...what a wonderful dream..."

..."put that F****g kettle on Brendon..."

..."yes, yes all right dear..."

..."and bring me more toast..."

..."vegemite or peanut butter dear..."

Sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...one day.

Jimbo
03-03-2005, 10:32 AM
“Global Empire, Globalization, New World Order, or Whatever You Call It”: :-o :-o :-o

“Madison agreed: ‘The diffusion of knowledge is the only true guardian of liberty.’”

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Death Of The American Republic - P2
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Global Economy - P1 - Ruthless Empire Builders
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Canadian Protesters Condemn Bush Imperialist War Criminal & Assassin
http://www.rense.com/general60/canadianprotesterscondemn.htm

Drug Empires - From The Wilderness
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ciadrugs/bush-cheney-drugs.html

Against The Empire - Rocking The Neo-Con's World
http://antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=3429

Margaret Thatcher's Son Charged w African Coup Plot
http://www.rense.com/general56/marg.htm

Rise Of Empire - American Imperium
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Dump The American Empire
http://www.rense.com/general54/letsdumptheamerican.htm

After Violating The UN Charter & International Law Bush Continues The Colonial Venture In Iraq
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/sep2003/bush-s24.shtml
8-)

RUready
03-03-2005, 03:06 PM
55132 wrote:
ru,

what it is about the nwo? I will tell you

its run by thieves, liars, killers and corrupt men, the kind of people who have no regards for anyone and will do anything to get their way, the world must be told about them, sadly most will never understand and many will choose to try to join them - as if they could, it’s a struggle for knowledge and awareness the things they most hate.

i for one will not be lead by them

you are very keen at double speak, and you know how to plant doubt and memes. but your attitude in belittling betrays you , you are good at mocking but not that good

Well, you won't be lead by them. OK. Then tell me how are you going to avoid the NWO agenda. Very simple question.

RUready
03-03-2005, 04:08 PM
55132 wrote:
ru,

what it is about the nwo? I will tell you

its run by thieves, liars, killers and corrupt men, the kind of people who have no regards for anyone and will do anything to get their way, the world must be told about them, sadly most will never understand and many will choose to try to join them - as if they could, it’s a struggle for knowledge and awareness the things they most hate.

i for one will not be lead by them

you are very keen at double speak, and you know how to plant doubt and memes. but your attitude in belittling betrays you , you are good at mocking but not that good
RE: of belittling people--most of you people in this forum are no better than the NWO upper crust. look at you, unless someone is christian, you don't accept them. this site should contain peoples of all backgrounds/beliefs. the one thing that this CC is for is the unity of those against the NWO. where is it written that if you are not christian, then you are one of 'them'. what's with that nonsense. i thought you people were advanced/educated. how dare you come down hard on those who do not have your religious/christian/spiritual/faith, etc beliefs. seek to find like minds--that of those against the NWO agenda as they believe it will be. find it in your heart to comfort those that you think are less than you in knowledge, education, dialogue, and such. don't ignore them. unite. when are some of you people going to get it!! to some of us who are not of any religion-denomination, nor "plant" of theirs, or a "socialist" as i've been called, we are waiting for you to knock it off. one can't mention anything that might come out as some good in the future under this NWO because you want to have things appear as evil only. do i want to see the rich get richer, NO. do i want to see the poor get poorer, NO. i want people to be free and prosper and support their country so that we can speak up. we need to reclaim these rights. but as long as you keep up with going against people because of religion, color, heritage background, etc., then you give the NWO controllers plenty to take advantage of.

PS: real name, Richard Baker, age 42

Location: Colorado
Occupation: Home appraiser
Family: wife of 18 years, children (2) ages 10 and 15

bltonwhite
03-03-2005, 05:25 PM
nohope187 wrote:
There's this thing I value called privacy. I also don't like the govt taking half of my earnings. I don't like being tracked and traced in everything I buy. I don't like having to be told that I must comply with their orders or I will be considered as a criminal. I just hate big brother and I hate the police state.

When did you discover that you did not like this.?

bltonwhite
03-03-2005, 05:35 PM
marypopinz wrote:
"What will defeat Satan and his troops is nothing but an individual revolution, anybody can do it now, just by reshifting your center to God instead of the powerless creatures (all things and people), by knowing that only God can harm or benefit, thus there is no need to worry or get afraid, even if they are knocking on your door!."

I completely agree.

no need to worry or complain? hmm, remember in the future what you just said----
so, you too sway with the wind!.
seems you choose to disagree with some people only because you have another reason against them, eh?
some of you here are so phoney.

get_real
03-03-2005, 06:35 PM
Ok People,
so we just wait and see? I'm not sure if a new id system is for some other reason.
Besides keeping a tab on us. Yeah, I believe that. To help us with easy managment (?) For them of us, yes?
Here's my thing: Will a new id contain a code for each of us? A code that ranks us as to status/class/clout??? Will this id card/mark/whatever limit us? And as to what and how far? And has anyone heard lately as to what Bush is doing as far as "mandatory" retirement fund? (taken out of our pay)

RUready
03-03-2005, 06:44 PM
get_real wrote:
Ok People,
so we just wait and see? I'm not sure if a new id system is for some other reason.
Besides keeping a tab on us. Yeah, I believe that. To help us with easy managment (?) For them of us, yes?
Here's my thing: Will a new id contain a code for each of us? A code that ranks us as to status/class/clout??? Will this id card/mark/whatever limit us? And as to what and how far? And has anyone heard lately as to what Bush is doing as far as "mandatory" retirement fund? (taken out of our pay)

if you don't see it now, you never will, and when you think you see, too late

Jimbo
03-03-2005, 07:04 PM
Mandatory: :-o :-o :-o

”get_real”, it looks that all of your ideas are plausible. If they can & could, I’d say they will. Why not. A lot easier management. One group, 2 steps forward, the 2nd group 1 step forward, & those remaining, do an about face & exit to aboard the cargo plane. Sure. As for “mandatory retirement”, I thought that was our “social security”, which is now in the process of being dismantled & re-structured, as we speak.
8-)

55132
03-03-2005, 07:31 PM
RUready wrote:

55132 wrote:
ru,

what it is about the nwo? I will tell you

its run by thieves, liars, killers and corrupt men, the kind of people who have no regards for anyone and will do anything to get their way, the world must be told about them, sadly most will never understand and many will choose to try to join them - as if they could, it’s a struggle for knowledge and awareness the things they most hate.

i for one will not be lead by them

you are very keen at double speak, and you know how to plant doubt and memes. but your attitude in belittling betrays you , you are good at mocking but not that good

Well, you won't be lead by them. OK. Then tell me how are you going to avoid the NWO agenda. Very simple question.



i never said i was going to avoid it, it is inevitable as is inevitable its destruccion by the hand of Jesus the Christ

55132
03-03-2005, 07:44 PM

55132
03-03-2005, 09:00 PM
ru,

i can agree with you that in principal we are as human as the nwo set, and are prone to the same faults, and none by our selves are any better then the other.

no one can accept or reject anyone on this site its a free forum, anyone can disagree with anyone and that is fine its still a free country. but you must also know that the nwo is a religious issue and that the only religious world view that confronts them the nwo are the christians, all others either ignore them or participate of it. That’s why you find many Christians in sites like these.

you say “where is it written that if you are not christian, then you are one of 'them'. what's with that nonsense”.

the only person I have heard this nonsense is from you, is this another vain attempt at planting a meme?

you started the thread with a noticably mocking tone and some of us cought you at it, btw
educational credentials can be meaningless in fact they can be hinderence.

and I remind you again that this is a forum to discuss issues and by definition it means that there will be confronting, if you don't like it or can’t take it don't iniciate it. if we where all to think like you propose then we would be drones. I think that we can all agree and disagree, some times feathers are ruffled, so?


good in the nwo? i guess it would be good for people who think like them or who want to be part of them and for those that don’t think at all. but for people who are against evil it will never be good.


no one here is going against religion, race, or heritage, so stop trying to create diversion issues here, and present your ideas and be ready to receive replies.

anyone can post any name here but they really don’t mean anything cause we can never know if they are real.

But I do hope your family is real, may God bless them.

Jimbo
03-03-2005, 10:02 PM
You Can’t Handle The Truth: :-o :-o :-o

Correct me if I’m wrong, but we heard that phrase, which became a “cliché,” in the movie “A Few Good Men”. That was cool…

I agree. I have often said to people, including my dad, when they got upset when I answered their question, & didn’t want to hear any more,… I said,…

I you don’t have the balls to hear the answer, then don’t ask the question.

Simple, & to the point…
8-)

truebeliever
03-03-2005, 10:34 PM
Ha ha...yeh right on Jimbo.

truebeliever
03-03-2005, 11:03 PM
RUready wrote:

RE: of belittling people--most of you people in this forum are no better than the NWO upper crust. look at you, unless someone is christian, you don't accept them. this site should contain peoples of all backgrounds/beliefs. the one thing that this CC is for is the unity of those against the NWO. where is it written that if you are not christian, then you are one of 'them'. what's with that nonsense. i thought you people were advanced/educated. how dare you come down hard on those who do not have your religious/christian/spiritual/faith, etc beliefs.

Dear RU,

Welcome.

You know what you wrote up there...thats PURE NWO.

People have the right to form groups and exclude people. It's called 'choosing'.

I dont have to welcome you and neither does anyone else.

Perhaps you'll find that it's your style rather than the fact you "ar'nt" Christian.

Personally, you dont bother me, though your views appear draped in a little rigid aggro...like your comment that it's OBVIOUS that the bible is 'simple' metaphor.

Well it's not obvious to everyone and dare I say it a little presumptious of you.

You are entitled to your views as are everyone else...except Rush :-P Only joking Rush.

The NWO wants us all to be 'tolerent' and 'nice' and not kick up a fuss.

The Aboriginal people of my country adhered to this principal and look what happened to them.

I dont want to accept 'ALL' views or 'ALL' people. I want the right to pick and choose. I want the right to decide my values and those I share them with.

If people dont like my values they can FUCK off back to their own country of origen and leave Australia to the original theives.

Please dont tell me I have to be tolerent of anyone or anything.

Besides that...it's your turn to be the plant!

Enjoy!

I'm off to full time work next week people. Dont worry, my foul mouth will be going with me! Just a few days left to blather it about.

Brendon O'Connell

Draken
03-04-2005, 12:32 AM
I dont want to accept 'ALL' views or 'ALL' people. I want the right to pick and choose. I want the right to decide my values and those I share them with.

Please dont tell me I have to be tolerent of anyone or anything.

I SOO agree with you, true!

This rubbish "tolerance" agenda is all about forcing you to accept everything from pedophilia to Satanism to Jewish Communism. Real freedom is when I have the right to disagree and act on it. My dad always says he doesn't have anything against gay people as long as it's not compulsory to be one! :-D

The people pushing most for "tolerance" are usually the most intolerant, especially towards people critisizing THEM. That's why they try to force everyone to tolerate them! "Tolerance" is just another NWO/Communist doublespeak term, like "political correctness"...

Mawashi
03-04-2005, 02:13 AM
That's right, TB and Draken.
We can decide for ourselves what to be tolerant of, and don't need the PC mob to shove it down our throats. Darned hypocrites. And they're always the first to complain when you accuse them of intolerance of dissent. Squeal like little piggies, they do. :cry: