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NoRelationTo
05-06-2006, 11:30 AM
Hello,

I have been wondering about a certain necklace/amulet that Michael Jackson wore on February 14th while on trial. So far, I have only been able to find four instances of it in photographs, and I thought I would link them incase someone else is better suited than I to pull out something so small with editing software. As it is now, it at least could be argued that he's wearing the cross and compass (I believe the third picture gives the best shot of the object in question).

Picture1 (http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h82/TreorThePirateKing/wjacko16.jpg)

Picture2 (http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h82/TreorThePirateKing/v_00370089.jpg)

Picture3 (http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h82/TreorThePirateKing/jgw214.jpg)

Picture4 (http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h82/TreorThePirateKing/jackson.jpg)

Maybe someone could verify that he is or isn't a Freemason by providing some other evidence. If so, I welcome your information as it would most certainly be helpful to me, at least.

Thank you in advance.

truthspeaker
05-06-2006, 12:24 PM
I don't know if he is or isn't. But, there are black freemasons.
With his money and stuff, you think he wasn't 'invited' to be one?

I would imagine all the wealthy blacks are freemasons. Every wealthy man I've known has been a bonafide freemason or a financial supporter/associate.

Also, the bumper stickers the masons have out there says..."to be one, ask one".

Me? Nah, they'll never ask. Plus, I know better than to ask as well. They'd laugh in my face.

redrat11
05-06-2006, 06:30 PM
Some Have Said

I've heard say that Michael is Alien Hybrid, just kidding, but that Amulet looks familiar, I think I've seen it on Masonic Websites, Also I think he's pictured in Texe Marr's book CODEX MAGICA, I have a copy of this awsome book, but I don't happen to have it on hand at the moment, I suspect Michael is pictured in there, Yes I think he's connected somehow to Masonry, but I doubt if he's a real one, I think Britney Spears and a handful of Pop-Stars are somehow MIND-CONTROLLED, if you follow their paths sure enough you'll find Masonic stuff around them (Pictures,Emblems,Jewelry). :-o

truthspeaker
05-08-2006, 03:56 PM
I don't know if the pop icons are mind-controlled...but I do believe that once they have started to make their millions and have tasted the limelight...they were asked to 'come in'!

And all was explained to them. What was explained??? That they are all part of what makes things happen. Follow me??

Example: now teen gals don't mind having a dead beat boyfriend (and vice versa of course) because Britney Spears does!!!

Yes, the Britney SPears, the Jessica Simpsons and all the others are the ones that put out an image or situation and put their seal of approval on it.

I read in one of the threads here:

"good is the new bad, BAD IS THE NEW GOOD!!"

These famous icons make millions even while they are sleeping because they are the ones that steer our young into the wrong direction. Today more than ever with all the hype about 'all that you can be' (remember that one?) why is it that our world is full of low mentalities? Drudgery?

What's with the scrubbiness? The characters of people today is very questionable. Do they not know that they are following a control, not just some trend??? I'll answer my own question: No they don't know they are being controlled...they are blinded by these peoples fame and fortune and admiration. Am I right??

So these pops are the deceivers, con artists, tempters, satanists so to speak. And they are part of the dumbing down of our society.

Can you imagine if there were a Hitler now? One that can do whatever he wants??

I don't even want to think about it!

Bouncer
05-09-2006, 11:55 AM
I've always suspected a high degree of social engineering in sitcoms and other products and venues of the entertainment industry.
One example: Harvey Stephens played Damien in the original The Omen, a movie releasecd in 1976 about a child who grows up as the Antichrist.
I was a teen when I saw this movie, and I remember one scene in which Damien was at a party. He was surrounded by pretty girls with intense looks in their eyes. Now to a kid, this would indicate that evil is sexy, attractive, virulent, etc., and that being "good" or pro-God is a turn-off, impotent, etc. This is the clear message put forth in the movie.
But what you don't see are the girls who stay away from Damien because they sense he is evil; there are people who are smart enough to see trouble coming.
This is how to fight social programming in the media: keep using your left brain - keep thinking through to a reality-based conclusion instead of just what is put before you.

As for Michael J. 8-) , he is reputed to be a product of trauma-based mind control; whether public or privately funded is anyone's guess (http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000078.html). Quite frankly I find it easy to believe.

AISB_Watch
05-09-2006, 09:15 PM
He's obsessed with heraldy and royalty, perhaps even secret societies--he sports "acquired" crests and medals. You see him sometimes with medallions from the Order of the Elephant, the Order of the Golden Fleece and the Order of the Garter. Go to Corbis.com and search for Jackson photos. Obviously he's is not a part of these noble orders reserved for royalty, but he does have the money to buy up all sorts of things like that in auctions and stuff. Important people die, they leave valuables and he has the money to snatch 'em up.

He might really be a freemason though since his family is Mormon, I think.

BlueAngel
06-25-2009, 08:32 PM
I render the following opinion regarding Michael Jackson:

Michael Jackson was a mind controlled slave.

If you have read that which I have written about the music industry and their slaves, you should, by now, understand that they prey upon the less fortunate; those who are gifted and abused at home for obvious reasons.

Michael Jackson falls into all three categories.

Michael Jackson's Never Land ranch was run and operated by those within the Mafia/CIA/Music Industry who PREY upon the less fortunate.

They are predators.

They lured sick children to Jackson's Never Land Ranch who were star struck and, GOD only knows how many of these children were used to satisfy the sexual deviant desires of Michael Jackson, et. al.

They prey upon less fortunate children because their parent's will, in most cases, if abuse has occurred, settle for money out of court because they are less fortunate and don't have the ability and or financial resources to hire an attorney and fight the bastards for JUSTICE in a court of law.

I should know.

I was abused at home; I am GIFTED; I WAS less fortunate and I WAS a victim of MKULTRA/Project Monarch.

Operative word:

"WAS."

BlueAngel
06-25-2009, 09:02 PM
Michael Jackson dies in LA hospital - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_obit_michael_jackson)

Michael Jackson, the 'King of Pop,' dies at age 50

By LYNN ELBER, Associated Press Writer – 19 mins ago

LOS ANGELES – Michael Jackson, the sensationally gifted child star who rose to become the "King of Pop" and the biggest celebrity in the world only to fall from his throne in a freakish series of scandals, died Thursday. He was 50. Jackson died at UCLA Medical Center in Los Angeles. Ed Winter, the assistant chief coroner for Los Angeles County, confirmed his office had been notified of the death and would handle the investigation.

The circumstances of Jackson's death were not immediately clear. Jackson was not breathing when Los Angeles Fire Department paramedics responded to a call at his Los Angeles home about 12:30 p.m., Capt. Steve Ruda told the Los Angeles Times. The paramedics performed CPR and took him to the hospital, Ruda told the newspaper.

Jackson's death brought a tragic end to a long, bizarre, sometimes farcical decline from his peak in the 1980s, when he was popular music's premier all-around performer, a uniter of black and white music who shattered the race barrier on MTV, dominated the charts and dazzled even more on stage.

His 1982 album "Thriller" — which included the blockbuster hits "Beat It," "Billie Jean" and "Thriller" — is the best-selling album of all time, with an estimated 50 million copies sold worldwide.

The public first knew him in the late 1960s, when as a boy he was the precocious, spinning lead singer of the Jackson 5, the music group he formed with his four older brothers. Among their No. 1 hits were "I Want You Back," "ABC," and "I'll Be There."

He was perhaps the most exciting performer of his generation, known for his feverish, crotch-grabbing dance moves and his high-pitched voice punctuated with squeals and titters. His single sequined glove, tight, military-style jacket and aviator sunglasses were trademarks second only to his ever-changing, surgically altered appearance.

"For Michael to be taken away from us so suddenly at such a young age, I just don't have the words," said Quincy Jones, who produced "Thriller." "He was the consummate entertainer and his contributions and legacy will be felt upon the world forever. I've lost my little brother today, and part of my soul has gone with him."

Jackson ranked alongside Elvis Presley and the Beatles as the biggest pop sensations of all time. He united two of music's biggest names when he was briefly married to Presley's daughter, Lisa Marie, and Jackson's death immediately evoked that of Presley himself, who died at age 42 in 1977.

As years went by, Jackson became an increasingly freakish figure — a middle-aged man-child weirdly out of touch with grown-up life. His skin became lighter, his nose narrower, and he spoke in a breathy, girlish voice. He surrounded himself with children at his Neverland ranch, often wore a germ mask while traveling and kept a pet chimpanzee named Bubbles as one of his closest companions.

"It seemed to me that his internal essence was at war with the norms of the world. It's as if he was trying to defy gravity," said Michael Levine, a Hollywood publicist who represented Jackson in the early 1990s. He called Jackson a "disciple of P.T. Barnum" and said the star appeared fragile at the time but was "much more cunning and shrewd about the industry than anyone knew."

Jackson caused a furor in 2002 when he playfully dangled his infant son, Prince Michael II, over a hotel balcony in Berlin while a throng of fans watched from below.

In 2005, he was cleared of charges he molested a 13-year-old cancer survivor at Neverland in 2003. He had been accused of plying the boy with alcohol and groping him, and of engaging in strange and inappropriate behavior with other children.

The case followed years of rumors about Jackson and young boys. In a TV documentary, he had acknowledged sharing his bed with children, a practice he described as sweet and not at all sexual.

Despite the acquittal, the lurid allegations that came out in court took a fearsome toll on his career and image, and he fell into serious financial trouble.

Jackson was preparing for what was to be his greatest comeback: He was scheduled for an unprecedented 50 shows at a London arena, with the first set for July 13. He was in rehearsals in Los Angeles for the concert, an extravaganza that was to capture the classic Jackson magic: showstopping dance moves, elaborate staging and throbbing dance beats.

Singer Dionne Warwick said: "Michael was a friend and undoubtedly one of the world's greatest entertainers that I fortunately had the pleasure of working with. ... We have lost an icon in our industry."

Hundreds of people gathered outside the hospital as word of his death spread. The emergency entrance at the UCLA Medical Center, which is near Jackson's rented home, was roped off with police tape.

"Ladies and gentlemen, Michael Jackson has just died," a woman boarding a Manhattan bus called out, shortly after the news was announced. Immediately many riders reached for their cell phones.

So many people wanted to verify the early reports of Jackson's death that the computers running Google's news section interpreted the fusillade of "Michael Jackson" requests as an automated attack for about half an hour Thursday evening.

In New York's Times Square, a low groan went up in the crowd when a screen flashed that Jackson had died, and people began relaying the news to friends by cell phone.

"No joke. King of Pop is no more. Wow," Michael Harris, 36, of New York City, read from a text message a friend sent to his telephone. "It's like when Kennedy was assassinated. I will always remember being in Times Square when Michael Jackson died."

___

Associated Press Writers Derrik J. Lang in Los Angeles and Virginia Byrne, Nekesa Mumbi Moody and Jocelyn Noveck in New York contributed to this report.

BlueAngel
06-25-2009, 09:19 PM
Rest in peace, Michael.

They will not go unpunished.

BlueAngel
06-25-2009, 10:00 PM
Michael Jackson dies in LA hospital - omg! news on Yahoo! (http://omg.yahoo.com/news/michael-jackson-king-of-pop-dead-at-50/24346?nc)

Michael Jackson dies in LA hospitalAssociated Press - 34 minutes ago

Associated Press LOS ANGELES - Michael Jackson, the sensationally gifted child star who rose to become the "King of Pop" and the biggest celebrity in the world only to fall from his throne in a freakish series of scandals, died Thursday. He was 50.

Jackson died at UCLA Medical Center after being stricken at his rented home in Holmby Hills. Paramedics tried to resuscitate him at his home for nearly three-quarters of an hour, then rushed him to the hospital, where doctors continued to work on him.

"It is believed he suffered cardiac arrest in his home. However, the cause of his death is unknown until results of the autopsy are known," his brother Jermaine said. Police said they were investigating, standard procedure in high-profile cases.

Jackson's death brought a tragic end to a long, bizarre, sometimes farcical decline from his peak in the 1980s, when he was popular music's premier all-around performer, a uniter of black and white music who shattered the race barrier on MTV, dominated the charts and dazzled even more on stage.

His 1982 album "Thriller" — which included the blockbuster hits "Beat It," "Billie Jean" and "Thriller" — is the best-selling album of all time, with an estimated 50 million copies sold worldwide.

At the time of his death, Jackson was rehearsing hard for what was to be his greatest comeback: He was scheduled for an unprecedented 50 shows at a London arena, with the first set for July 13.

As word of his death spread, MTV switched its programming to play videos from Jackson's heyday. Radio stations began playing marathons of his hits. Hundreds of people gathered outside the hospital. In New York's Times Square, a low groan went up in the crowd when a screen flashed that Jackson had died, and people began relaying the news to friends by cell phone.

"No joke. King of Pop is no more. Wow," Michael Harris, 36, of New York City, read from a text message a friend had sent him. "It's like when Kennedy was assassinated. I will always remember being in Times Square when Michael Jackson died."

The public first knew him as a boy in the late 1960s, when he was the precocious, spinning lead singer of the Jackson 5, the singing group he formed with his four older brothers out of Gary, Ind. Among their No. 1 hits were "I Want You Back," "ABC" and "I'll Be There."

He was perhaps the most exciting performer of his generation, known for his backward-gliding moonwalk, his feverish, crotch-grabbing dance moves and his high-pitched singing, punctuated with squeals and titters. His single sequined glove, tight, military-style jacket and aviator sunglasses were trademarks, as was his ever-changing, surgically altered appearance.

"For Michael to be taken away from us so suddenly at such a young age, I just don't have the words," said Quincy Jones, who produced "Thriller." "He was the consummate entertainer and his contributions and legacy will be felt upon the world forever. I've lost my little brother today, and part of my soul has gone with him."

Jackson ranked alongside Elvis Presley and the Beatles as the biggest pop sensations of all time. He united two of music's biggest names when he was briefly married to Presley's daughter, Lisa Marie, and Jackson's death immediately evoked comparisons to that of Presley himself, who died at age 42 in 1977.

As years went by, Jackson became an increasingly freakish figure — a middle-aged man-child weirdly out of touch with grown-up life. His skin became lighter, his nose narrower, and he spoke in a breathy, girlish voice. He often wore a germ mask while traveling, kept a pet chimpanzee named Bubbles as one of his closest companions, and surrounded himself with children at his Neverland ranch, a storybook playland filled with toys, rides and animals. The tabloids dubbed him "Wacko Jacko."

"It seemed to me that his internal essence was at war with the norms of the world. It's as if he was trying to defy gravity," said Michael Levine, a Hollywood publicist who represented Jackson in the early 1990s. He called Jackson a "disciple of P.T. Barnum" and said the star appeared fragile at the time but was "much more cunning and shrewd about the industry than anyone knew."

Jackson caused a furor in 2002 when he playfully dangled his infant son, Prince Michael II, over a hotel balcony in Berlin while a throng of fans watched from below.

In 2005, he was cleared of charges he molested a 13-year-old cancer survivor at Neverland in 2003. He had been accused of plying the boy with alcohol and groping him, and of engaging in strange and inappropriate behavior with other children.

The case followed years of rumors about Jackson and young boys. In a TV documentary, he acknowledged sharing his bed with children, a practice he described as sweet and not at all sexual.

Despite the acquittal, the lurid allegations that came out in court took a fearsome toll on his career and image, and he fell into serious financial trouble.

Jackson was 4 years old when he began singing with his brothers — Marlon, Jermaine, Jackie and Tito — in the Jackson 5. After his early success with bubblegum soul, he struck out on his own, generating innovative, explosive, unstoppable music.

The album "Thriller" alone mixed the dark, serpentine bass and drums and synthesizer approach of "Billie Jean," the grinding Eddie Van Halen solo on "Beat It," and the hiccups and falsettos on "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'."

The peak may have come in 1983, when Motown celebrated its 25th anniversary with an all-star televised concert and Jackson moonwalked off with the show, joining his brothers for a medley of old hits and then leaving them behind with a pointing, crouching, high-kicking, splay-footed, crotch-grabbing run through "Billie Jean."

The audience stood and roared. Jackson raised his fist.

By then he had cemented his place in pop culture. He got the plum Scarecrow role in the 1978 movie musical "The Wiz," a pop-R&B version of "The Wizard of Oz," that starred Diana Ross as Dorothy.

During production of a 1984 Pepsi commercial, Jackson's scalp sustains burns when an explosion sets his hair on fire.

He had strong follow-up albums with 1987's "Bad" and 1991's "Dangerous," but his career began to collapse in 1993 after he was accused of molesting a boy who often stayed at his home. The singer denied any wrongdoing, reached a settlement with the boy's family, reported to be $20 million, and criminal charges were never filed.

Jackson's expressed anger over the allegations on the 1995 album "HIStory," which sold more than 2.4 million copies, but by then, the popularity of Jackson's music was clearly waning, even as public fascination with his increasingly erratic behavior was growing.

Cardiac arrest is an abnormal heart rhythm that stops the heart from pumping blood to the body. It can occur after a heart attack or be caused by other heart problems.

Billboard magazine editorial director Bill Werde said Jackson's star power was unmatched. "The world just lost the biggest pop star in history, no matter how you cut it," Werde said. "He's literally the king of pop."

Jackson's 13 No. 1 one hits on the Billboard charts put him behind only Elvis Presley, the Beatles and Mariah Carey, Werde said.

"He was on the eve of potentially redeeming his career a little bit," he said. "People might have started to think of him again in a different light."

___

Associated Press Writers Derrik J. Lang in Los Angeles and Virginia Byrne, Nekesa Mumbi Moody and Jocelyn Noveck in New York contributed to this report.

BlueAngel
06-25-2009, 10:13 PM
I love you, Joe
More than you'll ever know
you opened my eyes
when I couldn't see
you're like the warm, calm waters of the deep blue sea
embracing me
embracing me

I was alone and frightened, but there you stood
straight and silent
in the face of all I knew
you swallowed my fears
helped me rise above
you're the moon, the stars and my only love

When I feel prey
to the predators on BS.net
and the truth I believed were horrible lies
you held me close
never blinked an eye

when I believed
in an altered state
that I had a baby and cut it up
was sent away so I couldn't speak
you held me close and embraced me
like the warm, calm waters of the deep blue sea

you watched me weep while I lay in bed
for days and days and days on end
under my covers, hiding my head
reliving the torture of days gone past
And, as I went hungry, unable to eat
there you stood with two clay feet

you're my rock
you're my sun
you're my moon at night
you're my star
that's forever shining bright
you're like the earth and the dirt under my feet
you're the warm, calm waters of the deep blue sea
embracing me
embracing me

you give me oxygen when I can't breathe
you're my moon
you're my star
you're the wide open sea

you wrap me me up inside your arms
I feel safe, I feel love and I feel calm

you gave me eyes when I couldn't see
you held me tight when I couldn't be

you're my guiding light
you're my strength from within
you're my life, you're my heart
you know where I've been

you're like the deep, blue sea embracing me
the deep, blue sea and all it's warmth
you're a blanket
you're my hope
you're my lucky charm

you're like the deep, blue sea embracing me
embracing me...
embracing me...

BlueAngel
06-25-2009, 10:15 PM
Just demonstrating my talent.

I do believe the above is one of my most BEAUTIFUL pieces!

BlueAngel
06-25-2009, 11:08 PM
Why the delay?

What is so difficult?

Who placed the 911 call?

Was it Jackson or someone else?

In either event, kindly produce the 911 recording.

That should clear up my inquiry.

Thanking you in advance,
BlueAngel

Smooth Criminal
06-26-2009, 04:14 AM
Skin head, dead head
Everybody gone bad
Situation, aggravation
Everybody allegation
In the suite, on the news
Everybody dog food
Bang bang, shock dead
Everybody's gone mad

All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us
All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us

Beat me, hate me
You can never break me
Will me, thrill me
You can never kill me
Do me, Sue me
Everybody do me
Kick me, strike me
Don't you black or white me

All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us
All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us

Tell me what has become of my life
I have a wife and two children who love me
I am the victim of police brutality, now
I'm tired of bein' the victim of hate
You're rapin' me of my pride
Oh, for God's sake
I look to heaven to fulfill its prophecy...
Set me free

Skin head, dead head
Everybody gone bad
trepidation, speculation
Everybody allegation
In the suite, on the news
Everybody dog food
black man, black mail
Throw your brother in jail

All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us
All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us

Tell me what has become of my rights
Am I invisible because you ignore me
Your proclamation promised me free liberty, now
I'm tired of bein' the victim of shame
They're throwing me in a class with a bad name
I can't believe this is the land from which I came
You know I do really hate to say it
The government don't wanna see
But if Roosevelt was livin'
He wouldn't let this be, no, no

Skin head, dead head
Everybody gone bad
Situation, speculation
Everybody litigation
Beat me, bash me
You can never trash me
Hit me, kick me
You can never get me

All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us
All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us

Some things in life they just don't wanna see
But if Martin Luther was livin'
He wouldn't let this be

Skin head, dead head
Everybody gone bad
Situation, segregation
Everybody allegation
In the suite, on the news
Everybody dog food
Kick me, strike me
Don't you wrong or right me

All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us




First off all...I wish Michael Jackson Requiescant in pace!

Then...I'm asking what could happen if his message, contained in his songs, would be eared now during the "That's it tour" ? Here in Europe we'r going back to Nazism/Fascism, and no message of freedom or relovulution are allowed...
I always thought that Michael could have something to do with Freemason, if ear his songs... like Scream, They don't really care about us, Earth song, Heal the world, Man in the mirror, Leave me alone, and others...they cleary send a message that maybe coul "hurt" Nwo scheme.
Americans create, Americans destroy!That's the point.
If Michael had the chance to came in Europe somebody could have the idea of start thinking about his text songs,but here is not allowed to think, we are in Fascism period and Michael, with his fans, could have been seen like a person sending a message of Resistance!

iHIMself™
06-26-2009, 06:54 AM
I had to youtube that song, I had no idea of how powerful those lyrics are.

BlueAngel
06-26-2009, 09:48 AM
Here we go:

Jackson was apparently on medications for previous injuries and the family was concerned, as well as their attorney, that Jackson may one day overdose.

Yahoo! (http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=14175385&ch=4226715&src=news)

This video clip also addresses the accusations of child abuse and includes an interview by Diane Sawyer with Jackson and Lisa Marie.

BlueAngel
06-26-2009, 11:04 AM
It is being reported that Michael Jackson received daily injections and that the doctor who administered these injections is missing, and, quite possibly, may have been in Jackson's presence when he fell unconscious.

QUESTION:

What was Jackson being treated for that made it necessary for a doctor to inject him on a daily basis?

Inject him with what?

Pretty serious, I would think, if you need an injection on a daily basis, administered by a doctor and you're neither a diabetic or HEROIN addict.

Please provide a list of Michael Jackson's previous injuries and how and why these injuries may have required that he receive daily injections and, quite possibly, ingested other medications, as well, orally.

Any word on the 911 call and/or recording?

BlueAngel
06-26-2009, 11:44 AM
Police tow car, seek clues in Jackson death - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090626/ap_on_en_mu/us_michael_jackson)

Police tow car, seek clues in Jackson death

AP By JOHN ROGERS and JAKE COYLE, Associated Press Writers – 11 mins ago

LOS ANGELES – Police towed the car of a doctor from Michael Jackson's home Friday and said it could contain drugs or other evidence offering clues in the pop star's death.

Los Angeles police spokeswoman Karen Rayner said coroner's investigators were seeking to interview the doctor but said she did not know the doctor's identity. She stressed the doctor was not under criminal investigation.

"His car was impounded because it may contain medications or other evidence that may assist the coroner in determining the cause of death," Rayner said.

Medical examiners prepared an autopsy for Jackson as a chorus of grief spread around the world, from statesmen to icons of music to legions of fans.

Los Angeles County coroner's watch commander Lt. Brian Elias said Friday morning the autopsy would begin shortly and take several hours, but he said other tests would take longer and determining the official cause of death would take weeks or more.

Brian Oxman, a former Jackson attorney and a family friend, said Friday he had been concerned about Jackson's use of painkillers and had warned the singer's family about possible abuse.

"I said one day, we're going to have this experience. And when Anna Nicole Smith passed away, I said we cannot have this kind of thing with Michael Jackson," Oxman said on NBC's "Today" show. "The result was, I warned everyone, and lo and behold, here we are. I don't know what caused his death. But I feared this day, and here we are."

Oxman claimed Jackson had prescription drugs at his disposal to help with pain suffered when he broke his leg after he fell off a stage and for broken vertebrae in his back.

Jackson died Thursday afternoon at UCLA Medical Center after being stricken at his rented home in the posh Los Angeles neighborhood of Holmby Hills. Paramedics tried to resuscitate him for three-quarter of an hours there before rushing him to the hospital.

His brother Jermaine said Jackson apparently suffered cardiac arrest, an abnormal heart rhythm that stops the heart from pumping blood to the body. It can occur after a heart attack or be caused by other heart problems.

Jackson was preparing for a monster comeback bid — a series of 50 concerts that was to begin next month in London.

A handful of bleary-eyed fans camped out throughout the night with media outside the Jackson family house in the San Fernando Valley and near his star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. People heading to work in New York stopped to pay respects outside Harlem's Apollo Theater, where Jackson performed as a child.

"When the autopsy comes, all hell's going to break loose, so thank God we're celebrating him now," Liza Minnelli told CBS' "The Early Show" by telephone.

After Jackson was acquitted on child molestation charges in 2005, Santa Barbara County District Attorney Tom Sneddon argued against returning some items belonging to Jackson he labeled "contraband." Sneddon said those included syringes, the drug Demerol and prescriptions for various drugs, mainly antibiotics, that were in different people's names.

Stephen Hill, an executive producer for the BET Awards, said Sunday's show would be dedicated to Jackson because of his influence on music and pop culture.

"I think what you're going to find is that acceptance speeches for awards will have nothing to do about the artists themselves, but about the influence that Michael Jackson had on them," Hill said in a phone interview.

Universal Pictures' "Bruno" screened in Los Angeles on Thursday night with a scene involving Jackson's sister La Toya Jackson cut from the movie. A spokesman for Universal said the studio had no comment.

Jackson's death brought a tragic end to a long, bizarre, sometimes farcical decline from his peak in the 1980s, when he was popular music's premier all-around performer, a uniter of black and white music who shattered the race barrier on MTV, dominated the charts and dazzled even more on stage.

His 1982 album, "Thriller" — which included the blockbuster hits "Beat It," "Billie Jean" and "Thriller" — is the best-selling album of all time worldwide.

Yet after selling more than 61 million albums in the U.S. and having a decade-long attraction open at Disney theme parks, Jackson died reportedly awash in about $400 million in debt, on the cusp of a final comeback after well over a decade of scandal.

As word of his death spread, MTV switched its programming to play videos from Jackson's heyday. Radio stations began playing marathons of his hits. Hundreds of people gathered outside the hospital. In New York's Times Square, a low groan went up in the crowd when a screen flashed that Jackson had died, and people began relaying the news to friends by cell phone.

The public first knew him as a boy in the late 1960s, when he was the precocious, spinning lead singer of the Jackson 5, the singing group he formed with his four older brothers out of Gary, Ind. Among their No. 1 hits were "I Want You Back," "ABC" and "I'll Be There."

He was perhaps the most exciting performer of his generation, known for his backward-gliding moonwalk, his feverish, crotch-grabbing dance moves and his high-pitched singing, punctuated with squeals and titters. His single sequined glove, tight, military-style jacket and aviator sunglasses were trademarks, as was his ever-changing, surgically altered appearance.

"For Michael to be taken away from us so suddenly at such a young age, I just don't have the words," said Quincy Jones, who produced "Thriller." "He was the consummate entertainer and his contributions and legacy will be felt upon the world forever. I've lost my little brother today, and part of my soul has gone with him."

Jackson ranked alongside Elvis Presley and the Beatles as the biggest pop sensations of all time. He united two of music's biggest names when he was briefly married to Presley's daughter, Lisa Marie. Jackson's sudden death immediately evoked comparisons to that of Presley himself, who died at age 42 in 1977.

"I am so very sad and confused with every emotion possible," Lisa Marie Presley said in a statement. "I am heartbroken for his children who I know were everything to him and for his family. This is such a massive loss on so many levels, words fail me."

As years went by, Jackson became an increasingly freakish figure — a middle-aged man-child weirdly out of touch with grown-up life. His skin became lighter, his nose narrower, and he spoke in a breathy, girlish voice. He often wore a germ mask while traveling, kept a pet chimpanzee named Bubbles as one of his closest companions and surrounded himself with children at his Neverland ranch, a storybook playland filled with toys, rides and animals. The tabloids dubbed him "Wacko Jacko."

Jackson caused a furor in 2002 when he playfully dangled his infant son, Prince Michael II, over a hotel balcony in Berlin while a throng of fans watched from below.

In 2005, he was cleared of charges that he molested a 13-year-old cancer survivor at Neverland in 2003. He had been accused of plying the boy with alcohol and groping him, and of engaging in strange and inappropriate behavior with other children.

The case followed years of rumors about Jackson and young boys. In a TV documentary, he acknowledged sharing his bed with children, a practice he described as sweet and not at all sexual.

Despite the acquittal, the lurid allegations that came out in court took a fearsome toll on his career and image, and he fell into serious financial trouble.

Michael Joseph Jackson was born Aug. 29, 1958, in Gary. He was 4 years old when he began singing with his brothers — Marlon, Jermaine, Jackie and Tito — in the Jackson 5. After his early success with bubblegum soul, he struck out on his own, generating innovative, explosive, unstoppable music.

The album "Thriller" mixed the dark, serpentine bass and drums and synthesizer approach of "Billie Jean," the grinding Eddie Van Halen guitar solo on "Beat It" and the hiccups and falsettos on "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'."

The peak may have come in 1983, when Motown celebrated its 25th anniversary with an all-star televised concert and Jackson moonwalked off with the show, joining his brothers for a medley of old hits and then leaving them behind with a pointing, crouching, high-kicking, splay-footed, crotch-grabbing run through "Billie Jean."

The audience stood and roared. Jackson raised his fist.

During production of a 1984 Pepsi commercial, Jackson's scalp sustained burns when an explosion set his hair on fire.

He had strong follow-up albums with 1987's "Bad" and 1991's "Dangerous," but his career began to collapse in 1993 after he was accused of molesting a boy who often stayed at his home. The singer denied any wrongdoing, reached a settlement with the boy's family, reported to be $20 million, and criminal charges were never filed.

Jackson expressed anger over the allegations on the 1995 album, "HIStory," which sold more than 2.4 million copies, but by then, the popularity of Jackson's music was clearly waning even as public fascination with his increasingly erratic behavior was growing.

Jackson married Lisa Marie Presley in 1994, and they divorced in 1996. Later that year, Jackson married Deborah Rowe, a former nurse for his dermatologist. They had two children together: Michael Joseph Jackson Jr., known as Prince Michael, now 12; and Paris Michael Katherine Jackson, 11. Rowe filed for divorce in 1999.

Jackson also had a third child, Prince Michael II, now 7. Jackson said the boy, nicknamed Blanket as a baby, was his biological child born from a surrogate mother.

Billboard magazine editorial director Bill Werde said Jackson's star power was unmatched. "The world just lost the biggest pop star in history, no matter how you cut it," Werde said. "He's literally the king of pop."

Jackson's 13 No. 1 one hits on the Billboard charts put him behind only Presley, the Beatles and Mariah Carey, Werde said.

"He was on the eve of potentially redeeming his career a little bit," he said. "People might have started to think of him again in a different light."

BlueAngel
06-26-2009, 02:15 PM
Michael Jackson's Mysterious Medical Past - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20090626/hl_time/08599190726200)

Michael Jackson's Mysterious Medical Past

TIME

By ALICE PARK Alice Park – Fri Jun 26, 7:10 am ET

Late Thursday afternoon, after nearly two hours of speculation, the Los Angeles coroner confirmed that Michael Jackson had died, apparently of cardiac arrest. Hundreds of fans gathered around UCLA Medical Center, where the 50-year-old "King of Pop" had been rushed reportedly after collapsing at home. (See pictures of people around the world mourning Michael Jackson.)

Jackson's sudden death raised immediate questions about the singer's health history. But little is known about his medical record, which has always been a mystery, characterized largely by rumors and speculation - which sometimes seemed just the way he wanted it. In the fishbowl world he inhabited - with his three young children, Michael Joseph Jackson Jr. (or Prince Michael), Paris Michael Katherine Jackson and Prince Michael Jackson II - Jackson has managed to spark, then dodge, questions surrounding his various health problems. Much of time, the superstar behind hits such as Beat It, Thriller and Billie Jean appeared to invite speculation, appearing in public wearing surgical masks, as he did a decade ago, or in a wheelchair, which he used on certain occasions last year. The singer was always very thin and appeared frail.

The questions began early in his career, mostly surrounding his apparent plastic surgery, and continued as photographs documented his oddly lightening skin color. Jackson addressed that issue, acknowledging that he suffered from vitiligo, a skin disorder in which the pigment cells in the skin are destroyed, leaving white patches. (Watch TIME's video "Appreciating Michael Jackson, the Musician.")

In 1984, the singer was hospitalized after receiving second-degree burns when his hair accidentally caught fire during the filming of a Pepsi commercial. Jackson reportedly used a hyperbaric oxygen chamber while he recovered, and allegedly also slept in the chamber in an effort to halt the aging process - photos of him lying in one were leaked in 1986 - a claim he has denied.

Around Christmas of last year, a British journalist working on a biography of the pop star revealed that Jackson was suffering from alpha-1 antitrypsin deficiency, a genetic condition that affects the lungs and liver. The author, Ian Halperin, told In Touch magazine at the time that Jackson needed a lung transplant and was bleeding in the intestines. He also claimed that Jackson couldn't see out of his left eye and was so winded that he could barely speak most of the time. Jackson's spokesperson, Dr. Tohme Tohme, was widely quoted as denying the health problems, saying that the rumors were a "total fabrication" and that Jackson was "in fine health." (See CNN's special report on Michael Jackson's life and death.)

Recently, Jackson was preparing for a comeback tour, and when plans for his London shows were postponed in May, rumors emerged again that Jackson was sick - this time with skin cancer. Concert promoter AEG Live denied repeatedly in the press that the change in schedule had "absolutely nothing to do with Jackson's health."

It is unclear whether Jackson's sudden cardiac death has any relation to past conditions, but an autopsy is expected to occur on Friday.

BlueAngel
06-26-2009, 03:05 PM
The 911 call has been released.

The person who made the call did not identify himself.

The caller did not inform the dispatcher that the person requiring assistance was Michael Jackson.

He said that a doctor was present and that they had been pumping the person, but he was not responding.

Obviously, these two persons need to be questioned.

BlueAngel
06-26-2009, 03:59 PM
Now that Jackson is dead, the music industry will most probably make more money from the sale of his merchandise than he could have ever produced for them while he was alive due to the controversy that surrounded his life which aided in his decline within the music industry and his fall from HERO worship when he was accused of PEDOPHILIA; coupled with his display of other very odd behaviors.

Somewhat similar to Elvis Presley; however, his decline in the music industry was due to other reasons.

Sales of Jackson music, videos climbs online - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090626/ap_on_en_mu/us_michael_jackson_music_sales)

Sales of Jackson music, videos climbs online

By RACHEL METZ, AP Technology Writer Rachel Metz, – 29 mins ago

NEW YORK – Michael Jackson's death has led to skyrocketing sales of his music and videos, with major retailers like Amazon.com Inc. and Barnes and Noble Inc. selling out of products that have regained immense popularity overnight.

Bill Carr, Amazon's vice president of music and video, said Friday that once the world learned that the pop icon had died Thursday, the Web site sold out within minutes all CDs by Michael Jackson and by the Jackson 5 — the group Jackson and his four older brothers formed out of Gary, Ind., in the late '60s.

Sixty percent of Amazon's CD orders Thursday were for Michael Jackson music, something Carr called "stunning." He said he'd "never seen anything like this" before at Amazon after the death of a pop culture icon.

As of Friday afternoon, Jackson's albums accounted for all 10 of Amazon's "Bestsellers in Music" list, with the 25th anniversary edition of the celebrated "Thriller" album taking the top spot.

Meanwhile, Barnes and Noble's Web site and retail stores are currently sold out of most Jackson CDs, DVDs and books, Chief Merchandising Officer Jaime Carey said. Like Amazon, its 10 bestselling CDs were Jackson titles.

Both companies said they were working to get the products back in stock.

Apple Inc. would not describe the level of demand for Jackson's music at its iTunes online store, but his dominance of iTunes' top-seller lists Friday speaks for itself.

Around the time of Jackson's death, only one of his albums ranked in the top 100 on iTunes in the United States. By Friday morning, eight of the top 10 albums were Jackson's. An "Essential" collection of Jackson's songs compiled by Apple's iTunes music team was the top-selling album, followed by "Thriller."

Five of Jackson's singles made it to iTunes' list of most-purchased tracks — "Man in the Mirror," "Thriller," "The Way You Make Me Feel," "Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough," and "Smooth Criminal" — in what may be one of the best barometers to gauge his most popular songs.

With Amazon sold out of Jackson CDs, Carr said many customers were buying Jackson's music in digital form. Sales of Jackson-related videos are also up on Amazon — Carr said most DVDs, including the 1978 movie musical "The Wiz," are currently out of stock.

Carr said it was difficult to say whether the increased sales would persist, saying Amazon for now was taking things "minute by minute" and reacting to customers' orders.

"They love him, he's a legend, and they're anxious to make sure they have his music in their collections," he said.

___

AP Technology Writer Jessica Mintz in Seattle and AP Television producer Sara Gillesby in New York contributed to this report.

BlueAngel
06-26-2009, 04:12 PM
Police focus on medical treatment in Jackson death - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_michael_jackson)

Police focus on medical treatment in Jackson death

By JOHN ROGERS and JAKE COYLE, Associated Press Writers – 13 mins ago

LOS ANGELES – Police investigating Michael Jackson's death looked into his medical treatment Friday, seeking to interview one of the pop king's doctors and seizing a car that they said may contain drugs or other evidence.

As medical examiners began an autopsy on Jackson, police towed a BMW from rented home "because it may contain medications or other evidence that may assist the coroner in determining the cause of death," police spokeswoman Karen Rayner said.

She said the car belongs to one of Jackson's doctors whom police wanted to interview. Rayner said she did not know the doctor's identity and stressed the doctor was not under criminal investigation.

The autopsy began Friday morning and was expected to last several hours. An official determination on cause of death was not expected for weeks or longer, until more sophisticated tests are completed.

In a 911 call released by fire officials, a caller reports Jackson was on a bed and not breathing or responding to CPR. The unidentified caller said Jackson was with his personal doctor at the time.

"I need an ambulance as soon as possible, sir," the caller said urgently but politely. "We have a gentleman here that needs help and he's not breathing yet. He's not breathing and we need to — we're trying to pump him, but he's not, he's not."

The pop star died later Thursday afternoon at UCLA Medical Center.

As stores reported they were inundated with orders for Jackson's music, a chorus of grief for the megastar spread around the world, from statesmen to icons of music to legions of heartbroken fans.

"I can't stop crying. This is too sudden and shocking," said Diana Ross, who helped launch Jackson's career. "I am unable to imagine this. My heart is hurting."

Lisa Marie Presley, briefly married to the pop icon in the mid-1990s, said he had confided to her 14 years ago that he worried about facing the same tragic fate as her father, Elvis Presley, who died of a drug overdose at age 42.

"The world is in shock but somehow he knew exactly how his fate would be played out some day more than anyone else knew, and he was right," she wrote in a long, emotional statement on her MySpace page online.

The White House also weighed in for the first time, with a spokesman saying President Barack Obama saw Jackson as a spectacular performer and music icon whose life nonetheless had sad and tragic aspects. The House of Representatives observed a moment of silence.

Brian Oxman, a former Jackson attorney and a family friend, said Friday he had been concerned about Jackson's use of painkillers and had warned the singer's family about possible abuse.

"I said one day, we're going to have this experience. And when Anna Nicole Smith passed away, I said we cannot have this kind of thing with Michael Jackson," Oxman said on NBC's "Today" show. "The result was, I warned everyone, and lo and behold, here we are. I don't know what caused his death. But I feared this day, and here we are."

Oxman claimed Jackson had prescription drugs at his disposal to help with pain suffered when he broke his leg after he fell off a stage and for broken vertebrae in his back.

After Jackson was acquitted on child molestation charges in 2005, prosecutors argued against returning to Jackson items including syringes, the drug Demerol and prescriptions for various drugs, mainly antibiotics, in different people's names.

Jackson died after being stricken at his rented home in the posh Los Angeles neighborhood of Holmby Hills. Paramedics tried to resuscitate him for three-quarter of an hours there before rushing him to the hospital.

His brother Jermaine said Jackson apparently suffered cardiac arrest, an abnormal heart rhythm that stops the heart from pumping blood to the body. It can occur after a heart attack or be caused by other heart problems.

Jackson was preparing for a monster comeback bid — a series of 50 concerts that was to begin next month in London.

A handful of bleary-eyed fans camped out throughout the night with media outside the Jackson family house in the San Fernando Valley and near his star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. People heading to work in New York stopped to pay respects outside Harlem's Apollo Theater, where Jackson performed as a child.

"When the autopsy comes, all hell's going to break loose, so thank God we're celebrating him now," Liza Minnelli told CBS' "The Early Show" by telephone.

A producer said Sunday's BET Awards would be dedicated to Jackson because of his influence on music and pop culture. And a screening of Universal Pictures' "Bruno" in Los Angeles on Thursday night cut a scene involving Jackson's sister La Toya.

Jackson's death brought a tragic end to a long, bizarre, sometimes farcical decline from his peak in the 1980s, when he was popular music's premier all-around performer. His 1982 album "Thriller" — which included the blockbuster hits "Beat It," "Billie Jean" and "Thriller" — is the best-selling album of all time worldwide.

Yet after selling more than 61 million albums in the U.S. and having a decade-long attraction open at Disney theme parks, Jackson died reportedly awash in about $400 million in debt, on the cusp of a final comeback after well over a decade of scandal.

The public first knew Jackson as a boy in the late 1960s, when he was the precocious, spinning lead singer of the Jackson 5, the singing group he formed with his four older brothers out of Gary, Ind. Among their No. 1 hits were "I Want You Back," "ABC" and "I'll Be There."

He was perhaps the most exciting performer of his generation, known for his backward-gliding moonwalk, his feverish, crotch-grabbing dance moves and his high-pitched singing, punctuated with squeals and titters. His single sequined glove, tight, military-style jacket and aviator sunglasses were trademarks, as was his ever-changing, surgically altered appearance.

"For Michael to be taken away from us so suddenly at such a young age, I just don't have the words," said Quincy Jones, who produced "Thriller." "He was the consummate entertainer and his contributions and legacy will be felt upon the world forever. I've lost my little brother today, and part of my soul has gone with him."

Jackson ranked alongside Presley and the Beatles as the biggest pop sensations of all time. He united two of music's biggest names when he was briefly married to Presley's daughter, Lisa Marie. Jackson's sudden death immediately evoked comparisons to that of Presley himself, who died at age 42 in 1977.

As years went by, Jackson became an increasingly freakish figure — a middle-aged man-child weirdly out of touch with grown-up life. His skin became lighter, his nose narrower, and he spoke in a breathy, girlish voice. He often wore a germ mask while traveling, kept a pet chimpanzee named Bubbles as one of his closest companions and surrounded himself with children at his Neverland ranch, a storybook playland filled with toys, rides and animals. The tabloids dubbed him "Wacko Jacko."

After the enormous success of "Thriller," Jackson had strong follow-up albums with 1987's "Bad" and 1991's "Dangerous," but his career began to collapse in 1993 after he was accused of molesting a boy who often stayed at his home.

The singer denied any wrongdoing, reached a settlement with the boy's family, reported to be $20 million, and criminal charges were never filed.

Jackson caused a furor in 2002 when he playfully dangled his infant son, Prince Michael II, over a hotel balcony in Berlin while a throng of fans watched from below.

In 2005, he was cleared of charges that he molested a 13-year-old cancer survivor at Neverland in 2003. He had been accused of plying the boy with alcohol and groping him, and of engaging in strange and inappropriate behavior with other children.

The case followed years of rumors about Jackson and young boys. In a TV documentary, he acknowledged sharing his bed with children, a practice he described as sweet and not at all sexual.

Despite the acquittal, the lurid allegations that came out in court took a fearsome toll on his career and image, and he fell into serious financial trouble.

Jackson married Lisa Marie Presley in 1994, and they divorced in 1996. Later that year, Jackson married Deborah Rowe, a former nurse for his dermatologist. They had two children together: Michael Joseph Jackson Jr., known as Prince Michael, now 12; and Paris Michael Katherine Jackson, 11. Rowe filed for divorce in 1999.

Jackson also had a third child, Prince Michael II, now 7. Jackson said the boy, nicknamed Blanket as a baby, was his biological child born from a surrogate mother.

Billboard magazine editorial director Bill Werde said Jackson's star power was unmatched. "The world just lost the biggest pop star in history, no matter how you cut it," Werde said. "He's literally the king of pop."

Jackson's 13 No. 1 one hits on the Billboard charts put him behind only Presley, the Beatles and Mariah Carey, Werde said.

"He was on the eve of potentially redeeming his career a little bit," he said. "People might have started to think of him again in a different light."

BlueAngel
06-26-2009, 04:14 PM
The many faces of Michael Jackson:

The top news headlines on current events from Yahoo! News (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/specials/interactives/_entertainment/jackson_evolution/index.html?SITE=YAHOO&SECTION=HOME)

Smooth Criminal
06-26-2009, 06:20 PM
Thank you BlueAngel for your post, I really do appreciate it. It helps if you wanna analyze Michael Jackson life, his history, his problems (in health, with law, with different kind of speculation, his disorder in life, or whatever), his present. I just wanna say I grow up listening Michael songs, and I’ve learned English with his songs. I’m really sad about he’s gone, I really like him and I still do it. My intention when I start writing here is related with something little different, let me explain…For different reason I learned reading on freemason signs, in economy, in politics and others: I hope I’m wrong but when I think about this song, Morphine, well there are too many thing that sounds bad…deviate mason don’t do anything to case, if you are a singer they don’t “like”, for the message you give to people, they take from your song how you have to die…I really hope I’m wrong, an Michael is gone somewhere to cure his health and just for avoid to pay debt and leave in peace…I will know it somehow, I’ll try…By now have a look at this song…Demerol, have a look for the medical symptom...




Morphine

Written and composed by Michael Jackson

He got flat baby
Kick in the back baby
A heart attack baby :eek:
I need your body

A hot kiss honey
He's just a bitch baby
You make me sick baby
So unrelying

I'm such a swine baby
All down the line daddy
I hate your kind baby
So unreliable

A hot buzz baby
He's one of us baby
Another drug baby
You so desire

Trust in me
Trust in me
Put all your trust in me
You're doin' morphine

Hoo!

They got place baby
Kicked in the face baby
You hate your race baby
You're just a liar

Your every lick baby
Your dog's a bitch baby
You make me sick baby
You soul survivor

She never cut from me
She never cut baby
I had to work baby
You just a rival

Always to please daddy
Right up and leave daddy
You're thorwing shame daddy
So undesirable

Trust in me
Just in me :eek:
Put all your trust in me
You're doin' morphine

Go'on babe

Relax
This won't hurt you
Before I put it in
Close your eyes and count to ten
Don't cry
I won't convert you
There's no need to dismay
Close your eyes and drift away

Demerol :eek:
Demerol
Oh God he's taking demerol
Demerol :eek:
Demerol
Oh God he's taking demerol

He's tried
Hard to convince her
To be over what he had
Today he wants it twice as bad
Don't cry
I won't resent you
Yesterday you had his trust
Today he's taking twice as much

Demerol
Demerol
Oh God he's taking demerol
Hee-hee-hee
Demerol
Demerol
Oh my oh God it's demerol
Hee
Oooh

Oh!

He got shit baby
Your dog's a bitch baby
You make me sick baby
You are a liar

Is truth a game daddy
To win the fame baby
It's all the same baby
You're so reliable

Trust in me
Trust in me
Put all your trust in me
She's doin' morphine


You just sit around just talkin' nothing
You're takin' morphine
Hoo!
Go'on baby
You just sit around just talking about it
You're takin' morphine
Hoo-hoo!
Just sit around just talking nothing about it
You're takin' morphine
You just sit around just talking about it
You're taking morphine
You just sit around just talkin' nothin'
And takin' morphine

Hoo-hoo
I'm going down baby
You're talkin' morphine

Go'on baby!
Hoo!
Hoo!
Morphine!
Do it!
Hoo!
He's takin' morphine
Morphine!
Morphine!

BlueAngel
06-26-2009, 07:12 PM
You're welcome.

BlueAngel
06-26-2009, 09:27 PM
The media gave the impression that the doctor who was with Jackson when he fell unconscious was missing.

According to the following article, this is not the case.

The doctor was Jackson's personal Cardiologist and he spoke with the LAPD today and yesterday.

It was reported that Jackson was taking prescription medications.

The results of the toxicology report will not be known for several weeks, but according to the following article, a person speaking on the condition of anonymity KNOWS FOR CERTAIN that the cause of Jackson's death was due to cardiac arrest.

Obviously, this person should notify the Coroner that there isn't any need for a toxicology report.

I find it quite sad that Jackson spent time in the UAE as the personal JESTER for some of the Sheiks over there.

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Exact details of Jackson death still unclear

By JOHN ROGERS, Associated Press Writer – 7 mins ago

LOS ANGELES – The final act of Michael Jackson's life came into clearer focus Friday, a picture of a fallen superstar working out with TV's "Incredible Hulk" and under the care of his own private cardiologist as he tried to get his 50-year-old body in shape for a grueling bid to reclaim his glory.

While the exact circumstances of his death remained unclear, early clues suggested he may simply have pushed his heart too far.

Police said they had towed the doctor's BMW from Jackson's home because it may include medication or other evidence, and a source familiar with the situation told The Associated Press that a heart attack appeared to have caused the cardiac arrest that led to the pop icon's sudden death.

As grief for the King of Pop poured out from the icons of music to heartbroken fans, and the world came to grips with losing one of the most luminous celebrities of all time, an autopsy showed no sign of trauma or foul play to Jackson, who died Thursday at UCLA Medical Center after paramedics not could not revive him.

The AP source who said Jackson apparently suffered a heart attack was not authorized to speak publicly and requested anonymity. Jackson's brother Jermaine had said the pop singer apparently went into cardiac arrest — which often, but not always, happens because of a heart attack.

Authorities said they spoke with the doctor briefly Thursday and Friday and expected to meet with him again soon. Police stressed that the doctor, identified by the Los Angeles Times as cardiologist Conrad Murray, was not a criminal suspect.

"We do not consider him to be uncooperative at this time," Beck said. "We think that he will assist us in coming to the truth of the facts in this case."

Craig Harvey, a spokesman for the Los Angeles County coroner, said there were no signs of foul play in the autopsy and further tests would be needed to determine cause of death. He said Jackson was taking some unspecified prescription medication but gave few other details.

Meanwhile, a 911 call released by fire officials shed light on the desperate effort at the mansion to save Jackson's life before paramedics arrived Thursday afternoon. Jackson died later at UCLA Medical Center.

In the recording, an unidentified caller pleads with authorities to send help, offering no clues about why Jackson was stricken. He tells a dispatcher that Jackson's doctor is performing CPR.

"He's pumping his chest," the caller says, "but he's not responding to anything."

Asked by the dispatcher whether anyone saw what happened, the caller answers: "No, just the doctor, sir. The doctor has been the only one there."

The president of the company promoting Jackson's shows said Murray was Jackson's personal physician for three years. Jackson insisted Murray accompany him to London, said Randy Phillips, president of AEG Live.

Phillips quoted Jackson as saying: "Look, this whole business revolves around me. I'm a machine, and we have to keep the machine well-oiled." Phillips said Jackson submitted to at least five hours of physicals that insurers had insisted on.

On Friday, the autopsy was completed in a matter of hours, but an official cause of death could take up to six weeks while medical examiners await toxicology tests. No funeral plans had been made public.

Jackson had remained out of the public spotlight during intense rehearsals for the London concerts, but those with access said he was upbeat and seemingly energized by his planned comeback. Ken Ehrlich, executive producer of the Grammys, said he watched Jackson dance energetically as recently as Wednesday.

"There was this one moment, he was moving across the stage and he was doing these trademark Michael moves, and I know I got this big grin on my face, and I started thinking to myself, 'You know, it's been years since I've seen that,'" he said.

Lou Ferrigno, the star of "The Incredible Hulk," said he had been working out with Jackson for the past several months.

Still, Jackson's health had been known to be precarious in recent years, and one family friend said Friday that he had warned the entertainer's family about his use of painkillers.

"I said one day we're going to have this experience. And when Anna Nicole Smith passed away, I said we cannot have this kind of thing with Michael Jackson," Brian Oxman, a former Jackson attorney and family friend, told NBC's "Today" show. "The result was I warned everyone, and lo and behold, here we are. I don't know what caused his death. But I feared this day, and here we are."

Oxman claimed Jackson had prescription drugs at his disposal to help with pain suffered when he broke his leg after he fell off a stage and for broken vertebrae in his back.

The worldwide wave of mourning for Jackson continued unabated for the man who revolutionized pop music and moonwalked his way into entertainment legend.

"My heart, my mind are broken," said Elizabeth Taylor, who was one of Jackson's closest friends and married one of her husbands at a lavish wedding at the pop star's Neverland Ranch in 1991. She said she had heard the news as she was preparing to travel to London for Jackson's comeback show, and added, "I can't imagine life without him."

Hundreds made a pilgrimage to the Jackson family's compound in Los Angeles, leaving flowers and messages of love. They did the same at his star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame and at the home in Los Angeles' Holmby Hills where Jackson was stricken. Some camped out overnight.

In New York, people stopped at Harlem's Apollo Theater, where Jackson had performed as a child with his brothers in one of rock's first bubblegum supergroups, the Jackson 5.

Scores of celebrities who knew or worked with Jackson — or were simply awed by him — issued statements of mourning. Some came through publicists and others through emotional postings on social networking sites like Twitter and Facebook, where countless everyday fans were sharing memories as well.

"I truly hope he is memorialized as the '83 moonwalking, MTV owning, mesmerizing, unstoppable, invincible Michael Jackson," said John Mayer. Miley Cyrus called him "my inspiration."

And Diana Ross, the former lead singer of the Supremes who introduced the Jackson 5 at their debut on "The Ed Sullivan Show" in 1969, said she could not stop crying. "I am unable to imagine this," she said. "My heart is hurting."

His two ex-wives both said they were devastated. One of them, Lisa Marie Presley, posted a long, emotional statement on her MySpace page in which she said her ex-husband had confided to her 14 years ago that he feared dying young and under tragic circumstances, just as her father, Elvis Presley, had.

"I promptly tried to deter him from the idea, at which point he just shrugged his shoulders and nodded almost matter of fact as if to let me know, he knew what he knew and that was kind of that," Presley said.

Presley's father, the King of Rock 'n' Roll to Jackson's King of Pop, died in 1977 at age 42 of a drug-related death.

At rehearsals for Sunday's Black Entertainment Awards show, stars like Beyonce, Wyclef Jean and Ne-Yo were frantically revamping their performances in an effort to turn the evening into a Michael Jackson tribute.

"There's a direct line from Ne-Yo to Michael Jackson," said executive producer Stephen Hill. "There's a direct line from Beyonce to Michael Jackson. There's a direct line from Jay-Z to Michael Jackson. I think they'll want to pay tribute in their own way."

When he was on trial on child molestation charges in 2005, Jackson appeared gaunt and had recurring back problems that he attributed to stress. His trial was interrupted several times by hospital visits, and Jackson once even appeared late to court dressed in his pajamas after an emergency room visit.

After his acquittal, Jackson's prosecutor argued against returning some items that had been seized from Neverland, the Santa Barbara County estate Jackson had converted into a children's playland. Among the items were syringes, the powerful painkiller Demerol and other prescription drugs.

Demerol carries a long list of warnings to users. The government warns that mixing it with certain other drugs can lead to reactions including slowed or stopped breathing, shock and cardiac arrest.

Within hours of Jackson's death on Thursday, fans were inundating Web sites that sell his music, and physical stores reported they had been cleaned out of Michael Jackson and Jackson 5 CDs. All 10 of the albums on Amazon.com's bestseller list Friday were Jackson's; the 25th anniversary edition of "Thriller," the bestselling album of all time, was at the top.

Meanwhile, fans were snapping up every Jackson recording they could get their hands on.

Bill Carr, Amazon.com Inc.'s vice president for music and video, said the Web site sold out within minutes all CDs by Michael Jackson and by the Jackson 5. Jackson's albums accounted for all 10 of Amazon's "Bestsellers in Music" list Friday, with the 25th anniversary edition of the celebrated "Thriller" album taking the top spot.

Barnes and Noble Inc.'s Web site and retail stores also sold out most Jackson CDs, DVDs and books, and its 10 best-selling CDs were Jackson titles as well.

"They love him," said Bill Carr, Amazon's vice president for music and video. "He's a legend, and they're anxious to make sure they have his music in their collections."

___

Associated Press writers Lynn Elber, Gillian Flaccus and Thomas Watkins contributed to this report.

BlueAngel
06-26-2009, 09:28 PM
Excerpt:

"When he was on trial on child molestation charges in 2005, Jackson appeared gaunt and had recurring back problems that he attributed to stress. His trial was interrupted several times by hospital visits, and Jackson once even appeared late to court dressed in his pajamas after an emergency room visit."

"After his acquittal, Jackson's prosecutor argued against returning some items that had been seized from Neverland, the Santa Barbara County estate Jackson had converted into a children's playland. Among the items were syringes, the powerful painkiller Demerol and other prescription drugs."

"Demerol carries a long list of warnings to users. The government warns that mixing it with certain other drugs can lead to reactions including slowed or stopped breathing, shock and cardiac arrest."

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Maybe this is the reason Jackson needed a personal Cardiologist.

BlueAngel
06-26-2009, 09:38 PM
What will happen to Michael's children?

Hopefully, something better than what happened to him.

What Will Happen To Michael Jackson's Children? - Stop The Presses! (http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/stopthepresses/28723/what-will-happen-to-michael-jacksons-children/)

What Will Happen To Michael Jackson's Children?

Posted Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:17pm

PDT by Sarah Parsons in Stop The Presses!

The death of Michael Jackson at the age of 50 has raised many questions about his health, finances, and legacy. But at the top of many people's list of questions is the fate of his three children: How are they coping, and who will get custody of them?.

Debbie Rowe, a nurse who Jackson married in 1996 and divorced in 1999, is the mother of Prince Michael, 12, and Paris, 11; Prince Michael II (also known as Blanket), 7, was reportedly born to a surrogate mother, whose name has never been released..

A former Jackson attorney and family friend, Brian Oxman, told Radaronline Thursday that Katherine Jackson, Michael's mother, is the likeliest candidate to initially look after the children:.

"Probably Mrs. Jackson will take care of them, she loves them dearly," Oxman said.... [The children] are currently still in L.A. and with a nanny.".

Oxman later told "The Early Show":.

"I suspect that the death of Michael Jackson is only the beginning of the legal battles over not only his property, but also his children.".

Debbie Rowe could also make a play for Prince Michael and Paris. It is unknown if Jackson designated a guardian for the children in a will, but Rowe could claim that her care is in the best interest of her children, and head to court. E! reports:.

If Rowe decides to make a bid for at least the two children she carried, she has quite a case, too....

Although many reports indicate Rowe legally waived her parental rights over the two kids after her divorce from Jackson, that decision actually was reversed by a judge. Eventually Jackson and Rowe reached a specific agreement of their own: Rowe retained parental rights and got a fat check while Jackson retained custody..

The children, who have lived at Neverland Ranch and in Ireland and Bahrain, were most often seen in public with their faces covered by veils or masks. In 2002, Jackson was highly criticized when he dangled Blanket, then an infant, over the balcony of a Berlin hotel to show him to screaming fans below.

The three children, like Michael and his siblings, will be growing up amid a blizzard of media attention. While the Jackson family is often in the spotlight for their tumultuous relationships, this may provide an opportunity for the family to heal past wounds.

Mark Lester, godfather to Jackson's children, told the "Today" show:.

"The Jackson family is a very large family, and, you know, in times of need families get together and put aside all the differences.".

BlueAngel
06-26-2009, 10:15 PM
You know, I've always been very careful about mixing over the counter medications with a prescription drug.

Could be because I'm well aware that within the entertainment industry it is common practice for THEIR doctors to prescribe more than one "narcotic" to an entertainer and that the mixing of drugs, prescription or otherwise, legal or not, can be a "lethal cocktail."

If the controllers within the entertainment industry want to dispose of one of their slaves, addicting them to various narcotics that can result in a lethal cocktail is the avenue that they take because it is very easy to blame it on an overdose.

But, in reality, who is responsible for the overdose?

The doctors who prescribed the lethal cocktail; the controllers who aided or the celebrity who died from the ingestion of more than one prescription drug?

You can call them prescription drugs, but they can be just as lethal when combined with other prescription drugs, or not, as anything you can buy on the street.

Do these celebrities obtain prescriptions for their drugs from ONE doctor or several doctors?

Do these doctors get paid BIG BUCKS by celebrities to support their habit so they don't have to go onto the streets and buy from a peddler?

If the answer is yes then these doctors are no better than drug pushers.

BlueAngel
06-26-2009, 11:20 PM
Michael Jackson was $400 million dollars in debt.

I'm certain that his controllers/handlers knew that his scheduled "come back" tour and anything he did in the future would never be enough to pay down his debt and reap any significant financial reward for them.

Sad, but true.

BlueAngel
06-26-2009, 11:52 PM
Michael Jackson was $400 million dollars in debt when he died.

He was penniless, but the world would not be able to accept Michael Jackson as a homeless man.

So, who was paying for his RENTED mansion and other necessities of his life until his death?

Who was financing him?

The music industry?

That isn't the way it works in their world.

You are to reap millions for them.

They're not to expend millions on you.

BlueAngel
06-27-2009, 12:08 AM
It is being reported that Michael Jackson received daily injections and that the doctor who administered these injections is missing, and, quite possibly, may have been in Jackson's presence when he fell unconscious.

QUESTION:

What was Jackson being treated for that made it necessary for a doctor to inject him on a daily basis?

Inject him with what?

Pretty serious, I would think, if you need an injection on a daily basis, administered by a doctor and you're neither a diabetic or HEROIN addict.

Please provide a list of Michael Jackson's previous injuries and how and why these injuries may have required that he receive daily injections and, quite possibly, ingested other medications, as well, orally.

Any word on the 911 call and/or recording?

The reporting now is that the doctor who was with Jackson when he fell unconscious was his personal Cardiologist and that he was never missing. Apparently, Jackson's personal Cardiologist who was with him when he feel unconscious spoke to the LAPD yesterday and today.

So, did Jackson have another doctor who administered daily injections?

We NEED TO KNOW about these daily injections.

It was reported.

Who adminstered them?

Jackson's personal Cardiologist or another doctor or was this misinformation?

Kindly dig.

Thanking you in advance,
BlueAngel

I know this was reported.

BlueAngel
06-27-2009, 07:16 PM
The Jackson family wants a second autopsy.

Don't know why Jesse Jackson feels the need to make a case for a second autopsy.

Is it against the law?

Michael Jackson News - Yahoo! Music (http://new.music.yahoo.com/michael-jackson/news/jesse-jackson-family-wants-2nd-autopsy--61990644)

Michael Jackson News

Jesse Jackson: Family wants 2nd autopsy

AP, Jun 27, 2009 5:24 pm PDT

Michael Jackson's family wants a private autopsy of the pop icon because of unanswered questions about how he died and the doctor who was with him, the civil rights leader Rev. Jesse Jackson said Saturday.

"It's abnormal," he told The Associated Press from Chicago a day after visiting the Jackson family. "We don't know what happened. Was he injected and with what? All reasonable doubt should be addressed.".

People close to Jackson have said since his death that they were concerned about the superstar's use of painkillers. Los Angeles County medical examiners completed an autopsy Friday and said Jackson had taken prescription medication..

Medical officials also said there was no indication of trauma or foul play. An official cause of death could take weeks..

The coroner's office released the body to Jackson's family Friday night. There was no immediate word on whether the second autopsy was being performed right away. Jesse Jackson described the family as grief-stricken..

"They're hurt because they lost a son. But the wound is now being kept open by the mystery and unanswered questions of the cause of death," he said..

Two days after Jackson died at a Los Angeles hospital, his most famous sister, Janet, arrived at the mansion Jackson had been renting. She drove up in a Bentley and left without addressing reporters..

Moving vans also showed up at the Jackson home, leaving about an hour later. There was no indication what they might have taken away..

There was also no word from the Jackson family on funeral plans. Many of Jackson's relatives have gathered at the family's Encino compound, caring there for Jackson's three children..

A person close to the family told The Associated Press they feel upset and angry about a lack of information about those who were around the pop superstar in his final days. The person requested anonymity because of the delicate nature of the situation..

Jackson had been rehearsing for 50 London concerts aimed at restoring his crown as the King of Pop. He died Thursday at age 50 after what his family said appeared to be cardiac arrest..

A 911 call from Jackson's rented home reported that his personal doctor was trying to revive him without success. Police have talked to Dr. Conrad Murray and have said they intend to speak with him again but have stressed he is not a criminal suspect..

Murray has yet to speak publicly since Jackson's death. Police towed his car from Jackson's home hours after Jackson died and said later it could contain medication or other evidence. Coroner's officials also said Jackson was taking prescription medication but declined to elaborate..

A lawyer at a Houston firm, William M. Stradley, confirmed Murray had hired his firm and said one of its partners was meeting with Los Angeles police on Saturday. Stradley said Murray accompanied Michael Jackson to the hospital..

"He was there from the beginning and he's been cooperating with police from the very beginning," Stradley said. "Dr. Murray has never left L.A. since Mr. Jackson's death, and he remains there.".

Murray lives in Las Vegas but apparently left his practice and moved in with Jackson about two weeks ago. No one answered the door Saturday at his Las Vegas home, which property records show Murray bought five years ago for $1.1 million..

The promoter of the series of London concerts that Jackson was to begin next month has said Jackson personally insisted Murray be on the payroll..

Also Saturday, spiritual teacher Dr. Deepak Chopra said he had been concerned since 2005 that Jackson was abusing prescription painkillers and most recently spoke to the pop star about suspected drug use six months ago..

Chopra said Jackson, a longtime friend, asked him for painkillers in 2005 when the singer was staying with him following his trial on sex abuse allegations. Chopra said he refused. He also said the nanny of Jackson's children repeatedly contacted him with concerns about Jackson's drug use over the next four years..

He said she told him a number of doctors would visit Jackson's homes in Santa Barbara County, Los Angeles, Miami and New York. Whenever the subject came up, Jackson would avoid his calls, Chopra said.

Associated Press writers Sophia Tareen in Chicago, Juan A. Lozano in Houston, and Gillian Flaccus, Brooke Donald, Beth Harris and Mike Blood and AP Global Media Services Production Manager Nico Maounis in Los Angeles contributed to this report.

BlueAngel
06-27-2009, 07:19 PM
Michael Jackson News - Yahoo! Music (http://new.music.yahoo.com/michael-jackson/news/jackson-doctor-hires-law-firm--61990815)

Michael Jackson News
Jackson's physician hires Houston law firm
AP, Jun 27, 2009 5:17 pm PDT

A Houston lawyer says his firm has been hired by the doctor who reportedly was with Michael Jackson when the pop star was fatally stricken in his Los Angeles home.

William M. Stradley, a partner in the firm of Stradley, Chernoff & Alford, says his firm has been hired by Dr. Conrad Murray..

Stradley says investigators have indicated Murray is considered a witness and is not a target in any way..

According to Stradley, one of the partners, Edward Chernoff, is in Los Angeles meeting with Police Department investigators..

Stradley says he doesn't know if Murray is taking part in Saturday's meeting..

Murray accompanied Jackson to the hospital, but he doesn't know if it was Murray who performed CPR on the singer or called 911, Stradley says..

The attorney says Murray has cooperated with police from the beginning and never left Los Angeles.

BlueAngel
06-27-2009, 08:22 PM
Michael Jackson's family members need to speak out.

Was their brother/son truly in as much pain as is being described by the media and the reason for his so-called drug addiction to prescription narcotics?

Jackson's family members and others, as well, such as Deepak Chopra have made reference to Jackson's drug addiction and, Chopra, in the following article states that after Jackson was acquitted on sexual abuse charges and staying with him, he asked CHOPRA for drugs and CHOPRA did not oblige.

Excerpt:

"Because of accidents, frequent plastic surgery and the sheer intensity of his dancing, physical agony was the unshakable problem with being Michael Jackson."

I believe Jackson told Oprah Winfrey during an interview that he had LUPUS.

Thread of pain ran through Jackson's career - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090627/ap_on_en_mu/us_jackson_years_of_pain)

Thread of pain ran through Jackson's career

By JAKE COYLE, AP Entertainment Writer – 13 mins ago

It was the last day of shooting for a Pepsi commercial at the Shrine Auditorium in Los Angeles in 1984, and the only hiccup had been an argument between Michael Jackson and an ad executive over whether the young superstar would take off his sunglasses.

"Then," as the executive later wrote, "we set his hair on fire."

Jackson was descending a staircase in an extravagant, pyrotechnic opening sequence, dancing to "Billie Jean," when a spark landed on his head. Jackson cried out. People nearby leapt on him to put out the fire, but Jackson was hospitalized for days with a burned scalp.

Thus began a thread of pain that ran through a remarkable career — and made painkillers all too accessible.

Because of accidents, frequent plastic surgery and the sheer intensity of his dancing, physical agony was the unshakable problem with being Michael Jackson.

Medical examiners in Los Angeles are perhaps weeks away from determining an official cause of death, but officials did say Friday that tests showed Jackson was taking prescription medication.

At the end of his life, a personal cardiologist was living with Jackson while he rehearsed rigorously for a historic comeback. Among the first steps police took was to tow the doctor's BMW, saying it might contain medication or other evidence.

Since his death, people close to Jackson have said they were worried about his dependence on the drugs. In 1993, while he was defending himself against child molestation charges, Jackson himself called it an addiction.

On Saturday, spiritual teacher Dr. Deepak Chopra said he had been concerned since 2005 that Jackson was abusing painkillers and spoke to the pop star about suspected drug use as recently as six months ago.

"In a way, this was coming, and in a way, it's frustrating that we couldn't do anything about it," he told The Associated Press. "The problem has been going on for a long time, but we didn't know what to do. There were attempts at intervention, and it didn't succeed."

Chopra said Jackson, a longtime friend, personally asked him for painkillers in 2005, when the singer was staying with him after he was acquitted on sex-abuse charges. Chopra said he refused.

He also said the nanny of Jackson's children repeatedly contacted him with concerns about Jackson's drug use over the next four years, and said Jackson would avoid his calls whenever the subject came up.

Well before Jackson had a doctor living under his own roof, there were ample reasons to turn to pharmaceuticals to relieve pain.

In the early 1990s, Jackson's dermatologist revealed the singer had a skin disorder known as vitiligo, which leads to white patches on the skin. And over the years, Jackson underwent numerous plastic surgeries, the most prominent being the narrowing of his nose. Few people know exactly how many there were in all.

Jackson was a passionate performer and an exceptional dancer, renowned for his choreographical perfection. Ailments were, or at least began as, a byproduct of his dedication.

In 1990, he was hospitalized with chest pains. In 1993, he canceled a performance due to dehydration and later cut his tour short because of his painkiller addiction. In 1995, he collapsed on stage at the Beacon Theater in New York and was hospitalized.

Then there was London. Mounting a comeback aimed at least in part on erasing the taint of years of scandal, Jackson was to perform a staggering 50 shows at the O2 arena, the first of them in mid-July.

It was a schedule daunting enough that Jackson was training in recent months with Lou Ferrigno, the star of TV's "Incredible Hulk." And while a 50-show run would be challenging even for an athlete in his prime, Jackson was 50 years old. As he aged, his appearance had become famously, almost spectrally, drawn.

Those involved in the production said Jackson was heavily involved in all aspects of the concert rehearsals. He had hired a personal trainer and was practicing with backup dancers and choreographers several hours a day.

"He was working hard, setting the example, overseeing the choreography, kicking butt and taking names," said Johnny Caswell, president of CenterStaging Musical Productions Inc., a Burbank, Calif., sound stage where Jackson rehearsed until late May. "He was ready to blow everybody out of the water."

Randy Phillips, president and CEO of AEG Live, the producers of the London show, said Jackson was dancing "as well or better than the 20-year-old dancers we surrounded him with. ... He was riveting."

Maryss Courchinoux, a 29-year-old from Paris who said she had been selected as a backup dancer for the show, described the tour rehearsals as more arduous than the performances themselves.

"A heart is a muscle," she said. "If you don't build it up little by little, you will have problems and start cramping up. I don't know what his lifestyle was before he started rehearsing."

Jackson's family said he died of cardiac arrest on Thursday at UCLA Medical Center. A person familiar with the situation, speaking on condition of anonymity because the person had not been authorized to speak publicly, said it was an apparent heart attack.

Others familiar with a life in dancing and performing spoke similarly of its physical demand — in particular, the need for consistent practice. It is not, they said, a line of work in which a performer can figuratively jump from zero to 60 mph or more.

"You can never stop," said Jodi Moccia, a dance teacher and a choreographer who works with the cast of "Mamma Mia!" to prevent injuries. "Once you stop, those muscles don't come back like they usually do."

Four years ago, it was almost unthinkable that Jackson might attempt such an undertaking.

During his 2005 molestation trial, he appeared gaunt and had recurring back problems that he attributed to stress. The trial was interrupted several times by hospital visits. Jackson once even appeared late to court dressed in his pajamas after an emergency room visit.

After the acquittal, prosecutors argued against returning some items that had been seized from Neverland, the estate Jackson converted into a storybook playland. Among the items were the powerful painkiller Demerol and other prescription drugs.

That a performer with such a history of pain and a struggle with painkillers was attempting such an ambitious and grueling comeback was, some said, a collision course. Michael Levine, a publicist for Jackson in the early 1990s, called the stresses on Jackson "a toxic mix that nobody can withstand."

Others close to Jackson described a feeling of sad inevitability to his death.

Brian Oxman, a former Jackson attorney and family friend, told NBC's "Today" show: "The result was I warned everyone, and lo and behold, here we are. I don't know what caused his death. But I feared this day, and here we are."
____

AP Drama Writer Michael Kuchwara in New York and Gillian Flaccus and Beth Harris in Los Angeles contributed to this report.

BlueAngel
06-27-2009, 09:02 PM
The news organization who reported that Jackson received daily injections needs to come clean.

I think it was CNN, not sure.

I know it was reported.

Nothing gets by me as our former moderator, JustGroovy, stated.

From whom did this news organization obtain this information and if it isn't true, why did they report it?

Sounds to me from the article wherein Jesse Jackson is the spokesperson for the Jackson family, that the family was unaware that Michael was receiving daily injections.

IF this information is not true, quite pathetic that the news organization would report such.

Come clean!

BlueAngel
06-27-2009, 09:07 PM
The following is what I posted on this thread about Jackson receiving daily injections:

"It is being reported that Michael Jackson received daily injections and that the doctor who administered these injections is missing, and, quite possibly, may have been in Jackson's presence when he fell unconscious."

It wasn't reported that Jackson received an injection before he fell unconscious, but it was reported that the doctor who administered Jackson's daily injections may have been in Jackson's presence when he fell unconscious.

According to the Cardiologist's attorney, he is considered a witness.

This would indicate that he was in Jackson's presence when he fell unconscious and, from what was reported, apparently he is the doctor who administered the daily injections because it was stated that the doctor who administered the daily injections was in Jackson's presence when he fell unconscious.

However, the Cardiologist was never missing.

His car was towed for possible evidence and he spoke with the LAPD on Thursday and Friday.

Again, it was not reported that Jackson received an injection prior to his death, but that he received daily injections and that the doctor who adminstered them was quite possibly in Jackson's presence when he feel unconscious.

BlueAngel
06-27-2009, 09:22 PM
Jesse Jackson referenced Michael receiving an injection.

The Reverend needs to elaborate further as to where he obtained this information.

Which news source and any other details that I may have missed.

BlueAngel
06-27-2009, 09:36 PM
Where is the information regarding the person who placed the 911 call?

Are the LAPD questioning him?

Obviously, the Cardiologist must know who he is.

BlueAngel
06-27-2009, 11:09 PM
Michael Jackson was $400 million dollars in debt.

He was no longer an asset to the music industry.

He was a LIABILITY.

They were financing him.

That's not the way it works in their world.

You are to produce for them and not vice versa.

On the day of Jackson's death, sales of his merchandise soared.

He is worth more to them DEAD than ALIVE.

BlueAngel
06-28-2009, 12:58 AM
Michael Jackson News - Yahoo! Music (http://new.music.yahoo.com/michael-jackson/news/jesse-jackson-family-wants-2nd-autopsy--61990644)

Michael Jackson News

A spokeswoman for the doctor at Michael Jackson's side when he died says he is not considered a suspect after a three-hour meeting with police.

Miranda Sevcik (SEHV'-sik), a spokeswoman for Dr. Conrad Murray, said in a statement Saturday night that the doctor met to "clarify some inconsistencies."

The statement also says investigators believe "the doctor is in no way a suspect and remains a witness."

Police confirmed that they interviewed Murray and that he was cooperative.

Sevcik says Murray and his attorney "answered every and all questions" during a three-hour meeting, and that he will continue to cooperate.

Murray was with Jackson when the singer stopped breathing Thursday, and reportedly performed CPR until paramedics arrived.

BlueAngel
06-28-2009, 01:09 AM
How 'bout the name of the 911 caller?

BlueAngel
06-28-2009, 02:16 AM
Spokeswoman: Jackson cardiologist not a suspect - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090628/ap_on_en_mu/us_michael_jackson)

Spokeswoman: Jackson cardiologist not a suspect

AP – Saturday - By NEKESA MUMBI MOODY, AP Music Writer – 1 hr 29 mins ago

LOS ANGELES – The cardiologist who was with Michael Jackson when he collapsed is "in no way a suspect" in the pop singer's death, a spokeswoman for the doctor said Saturday after a three-hour interview with detectives.

Police confirmed that they interviewed Murray, adding that he was cooperative and "provided information which will aid the investigation."

The statement said Murray rode in the ambulance and stayed at the hospital for hours, "comforting and consoling the Jackson family." It also said he has been in Los Angeles since Jackson's death, and plans to stay here until his cooperation is no longer needed.

Murray was with Jackson when the singer stopped breathing Thursday, and reportedly performed CPR until paramedics arrived.

News of the meeting came a few hours after the Rev. Jesse Jackson said the pop star's family is seeking a second autopsy of the pop icon because of unanswered questions about how he died.

"It's abnormal," he said from Chicago a day after visiting the Jackson family. "We don't know what happened. Was he injected and with what? All reasonable doubt should be addressed."

People close to Jackson have said since his death that they were concerned about the superstar's use of painkillers. Los Angeles County medical examiners completed their autopsy Friday and said Jackson had taken prescription medication.

Medical officials also said there was no indication of trauma or foul play. An official cause of death could take weeks.

The coroner's office released the body to Jackson's family Friday night. There was no immediate word on whether the second autopsy was being performed right away. Jesse Jackson described the family as grief-stricken.

"They're hurt because they lost a son. But the wound is now being kept open by the mystery and unanswered questions of the cause of death," he said.

One of Jackson's longtime lawyers was chosen to represent the family's legal interests, a person close to the situation said Saturday. Katherine Jackson, the singer's mother, selected L. Londell McMillan, who has represented Jackson in several cases, said the person, who requested anonymity because the matter is private.

Two days after Jackson died at a Los Angeles hospital, sisters Janet and La Toya arrived at the mansion Jackson had been renting. They left without addressing reporters.

Moving vans also showed up at the Jackson home, leaving about an hour later. There was no indication what they might have taken away.

The Jackson family issued a statement Saturday expressing its grief over the death and thanking his supporters.

"In one of the darkest moments of our lives we find it hard to find the words appropriate to this sudden tragedy we all had to encounter," said the statement made through People magazine. "We miss Michael endlessly."

The Jackson family did not respond to a request for comment from the AP.

There was also no word from the family on funeral plans. Many of Jackson's relatives have gathered at the family's Encino compound, caring there for Jackson's three children.

A person close to the family told the AP they feel upset and angry about a lack of information about those who were around the pop superstar in his final days. The person requested anonymity because of the delicate nature of the situation.

Jackson had been rehearsing for 50 London concerts aimed at restoring his crown as the King of Pop. He died Thursday at age 50 after what his family said appeared to be cardiac arrest.

Police towed Murray's car from Jackson's home hours after Jackson died and said later it could contain medication or other evidence. Coroner's officials also said Jackson was taking prescription medication but declined to elaborate.

Murray lives in Las Vegas but apparently left his practice and moved in with Jackson about two weeks ago. No one answered the door Saturday at his Las Vegas home, which property records show Murray bought five years ago for $1.1 million.

The promoter of the series of London concerts that Jackson was to begin next month has said Jackson personally insisted Murray be on the payroll.

Also Saturday, spiritual teacher Dr. Deepak Chopra said he had been concerned since 2005 that Jackson was abusing prescription painkillers and most recently spoke to the pop star about suspected drug use six months ago.

Chopra said Jackson, a longtime friend, asked him for painkillers in 2005 when the singer was staying with him following his trial on sex abuse allegations. Chopra said he refused. He also said the nanny of Jackson's children repeatedly contacted him with concerns about Jackson's drug use over the next four years.

He said she told him a number of doctors would visit Jackson's homes in Santa Barbara County, Los Angeles, Miami and New York. Whenever the subject came up, Jackson would avoid his calls, Chopra said.

___

Associated Press writers Sophia Tareen in Chicago, Juan A. Lozano in Houston, and Gillian Flaccus, Brooke Donald, Beth Harris and Mike Blood and AP Global Media Services Production Manager Nico Maounis in Los Angeles contributed to this report.

BlueAngel
06-29-2009, 10:25 AM
From what I've read, Dr. Conrad Murray, left his residence in Las Vegas two months ago when he was contracted as Jackson's personal physician.

Keep in mind that Dr. Murray is a Cardiologist.

It was reported that Dr. Conrad Murray had financial problems.

He was hired at a salary of $300,000.00 per month and claims that he has not been compensated for his two months of employment.

Edward Chernoff, Dr. Murray's attorney, said that Dr. Conrad Murray never prescribed or gave Jackson the drugs Demerol or Oxycontin. He denied reports suggesting Murray gave Jackson drugs that contributed to his death.

Chernoff told the AP that Murray was at the pop icon's rented mansion on Thursday afternoon when he discovered Jackson in bed and not breathing. The doctor immediately began administering CPR, Chernoff said.

"He just happened to find him in his bed, and he wasn't breathing," the lawyer said. "Mr. Jackson was still warm and had a pulse."

People close to Michael Jackson have said since his death that they were concerned about his use of painkillers. Los Angeles County medical examiners completed their autopsy Friday and said Jackson had taken unspecified prescription medication.

Chernoff said any drugs the doctor gave Jackson were prescribed in response to a specific complaint from the entertainer.

"Dr. Murray has never prescribed nor administered Demerol to Michael Jackson," Chernoff said. "Not ever. Not that day. ... Not Oxycontin (either) for that matter."

----------------------------------------------------------------

The narcotics, Demerol and Oxycontin are referenced by Murray's attorney as if it is known that Jackson was taking these painkillers.

I'm not a doctor, but sounds like the combination of Demerol and Oxycontin could be considered a "lethal cocktail."

If Michael Jackson was prescribed Oxycontin and Demerol, who were the prescribing physicians?

What medications did Dr. Murray prescribe for Jackson's specific complaint and what was the specific complaint?

When he prescribed these medications, was he aware that other doctor(s) had prescribed Oxycontin and Demerol for Jackson, if, in fact, it is true that Jackson was taking these narcotics?

Did Jackson know Dr. Murray personally and request that he live with him as his personal physician or did someone else coordinate this?

You know, if Michael Jackson were taking the narcotics, Oxycontin and Demerol and/or other prescription medications as indicated by those within his circle because he was in severe pain due to previous accidents, dancing, etc., how would he be possible for him to embark on a come back tour?

Lawyer: Jackson's doc didn't give excessive drugs - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_michael_jackson)

Lawyer for doctor: Jackson had pulse when found

AP – Saturday, June 27, 2009. … By ANTHONY McCARTNEY,
AP Entertainment Writer – 23 mins ago

LOS ANGELES – Michael Jackson still had a faint pulse and his body was warm when his doctor found him in bed and not breathing, a lawyer for the doctor told The Associated Press on Sunday.

Edward Chernoff also said Dr. Conrad Murray never prescribed or gave Jackson the drugs Demerol or OxyContin. He denied reports suggesting Murray gave Jackson drugs that contributed to his death.

Chernoff told the AP that Murray was at the pop icon's rented mansion on Thursday afternoon when he discovered Jackson in bed and not breathing. The doctor immediately began administering CPR, Chernoff said.

"He just happened to find him in his bed, and he wasn't breathing," the lawyer said. "Mr. Jackson was still warm and had a pulse."

Jackson's family requested a private autopsy in part because of questions about Murray, the Rev. Jesse Jackson said Saturday.

People close to Michael Jackson have said since his death that they were concerned about his use of painkillers. Los Angeles County medical examiners completed their autopsy Friday and said Jackson had taken unspecified prescription medication.

Chernoff said any drugs the doctor gave Jackson were prescribed in response to a specific complaint from the entertainer.

"Dr. Murray has never prescribed nor administered Demerol to Michael Jackson," Chernoff said. "Not ever. Not that day. ... Not Oxycontin (either) for that matter."

Paramedics were called to the mansion while the doctor was performing CPR, according to a recording of the 911 call. Medics spent three-quarters of an hour trying to revive Jackson. He was pronounced dead later at UCLA Medical Center.

Murray was interviewed by investigators for three hours Saturday. His spokeswoman called Murray "a witness to this tragedy," not a suspect in the death, and police described the doctor as cooperative.

Chernoff also said the promoter of Jackson's 50-show London concerts, AEG Live, owes the cardiologist $300,000.

"His contract with the promoters states he would receive an amount of money each month to be his (Jackson's) personal physician and they have failed to honor that contract," Chernoff said. "They are two months behind."

Randy Phillips, president and CEO of AEG Live, acknowledged the contract called for Murray to be paid $150,000 a month, but said the contract required Jackson's signature.

"Michael never signed the contract," Phillips said.

He also said the doctor's claim for payment may be against Jackson's estate, not AEG which was merely advancing the money to Jackson.

Three days after the death of the King of Pop, celebrities descended on Los Angeles for what promised to be a spectacular celebration of Jackson's life at the annual BET awards show.

Media requests for the Sunday night show doubled following the death, and the red carpet was lengthened. Joe Jackson, Michael's father, was briefly spotted on the red carpet wearing a black hat. He planned make an onstage appearance, show publicist Bobbi Marcus said.

Previously announced performers including Beyonce and Ne-Yo, were working to overhaul performances they had planned for weeks so they could honor Jackson. Other stars tried to catch last-minute flights.

A private pathologist hired by the Jackson family completed a second, private autopsy Saturday, the Los Angeles Times reported, citing unnamed people familiar with the case.

A second autopsy can allow the family to get some information about a death almost immediately, including signs of heart, brain or lung disease or fresh needle punctures, said Dr. Michael Baden, a medical examiner not involved in the Jackson case.

"Usually if it looks normal with the naked eye, it looks normal under the microscope," said Baden, who recently performed a second autopsy on actor David Carradine.

Los Angeles County coroner's officials said their autopsy found no indication of trauma or foul play. But because of additional tests, an official cause of death could take weeks to determine.

There was no word from the Jackson family on funeral plans. Many of Jackson's relatives have gathered at the family's Encino compound, caring there for Jackson's three children.

Al Sharpton, who arrived in Los Angeles on Sunday afternoon, said he was heading to the Jackson compound and would talk with the family about how to memorialize the late pop star. Sharpton said they want to hold memorials in key cities around the globe and also planned a memorial service Tuesday at the Apollo Theater in New York.

On Saturday, three of Jackson's brothers — Jackie, Jermaine and Tito — visited Jackson's Neverland Ranch where they walked the manicured grounds and reminisced about his life. It is not clear what will become of the ranch, which has been under renovations.

Owen Blicksilver, a spokesman for Colony Capital LLC, the Los Angeles-based firm where investor Thomas Barrack is chairman and CEO, said it was premature to discuss the future of Neverland. Barrack previously set up the joint venture with Michael Jackson after the singer nearly lost the ranch to foreclosure.

Barrack feels close to family members and wants to hear their thoughts on how best to honor Jackson's memory, Blicksilver said. The investor joined Jackie, Jermaine and Tito Jackson for lunch Saturday at the sprawling Santa Barbara County property.

A White House adviser said on NBC's "Meet the Press" that President Barack Obama had written to the Jackson family to express his condolences.

In an interview that aired earlier Sunday, Jackson's father said he does not believe stress over the intense series of concerts the King of Pop planned for his comeback led to his death.

Joe Jackson also said he believes his son will be larger in death than he was in life. The patriarch of the Jackson 5 said he wished Michael Jackson were around to see the outpouring of affection since his death.

"Michael was the biggest superstar in the world and in history," Joe Jackson told Fox News Channel's "Geraldo at Large." "He was loved by everybody, whether poor or wealthy or whatever may be."

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Associated Press writers contributing to this report include: Sophia Tareen in Chicago; Juan A. Lozano in Houston; and Nekesa Mumbi Moody, Gillian Flaccus, Brooke Donald, Beth Harris and Mike Blood and AP Global Media Services Production Manager Nico Maounis in Los Angeles.

BlueAngel
06-29-2009, 02:52 PM
Does anyone know why Michael Jackson required a personal physician to reside with him?

Any word on the 911 caller?

Any word on the names of the doctors who prescribed medications for Michael Jackson other than Dr. Murray?

Surely, someone knows from whom Jackson was receiving his painkillers?

Any word as to why Michael Jackson was in such severe pain that, quite possibly, he required Oxycontin and Demerol and other medications prescribed by Dr. Murray?

Any word on how the THUGS in the music industry could have possibly thought Michael Jackson would have been able to launch a come back tour when he was, obviously, addicted to painkillers because he was supposedly in severe pain and required a personal physician to reside with him?

BlueAngel
06-29-2009, 09:47 PM
All I can say is that Michael Jackson's family should know the condition of his body after his death and so, too, should the person who performed the private autopsy.

As far as a wig, now that I think about it, his hair didn't look real.

There are conflicting reports.

Dr. Murray states he was to be paid $300,000 per month and that he is owed $600,000.

Other reports state that Dr. Murray resided with Jackson for only eleven days.

It was reported that Dr. Murray had financial problems.

Easy money for him from the Entertainment company that hired Dr. Murray as Jackson's personal physician.

$150,000 is what the Entertainment company says they agreed to pay him, but Dr. Murray's attorney says the amount was $300,000 per month.

The shock findings of the Michael Jackson autopsy | The Sun |News (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2505693/The-shock-findings-of-the-Michael-Jackson-autopsy.html)

By NICK PARKER
and STEVE KENNEDY

Published: Today

THE horrifying state of pop superstar Michael Jackson in his final days can be revealed by The Sun today.
Harrowing leaked autopsy details show the singer was a virtual skeleton — barely eating and with only pills in his stomach at the time he died.

His hips, thighs and shoulders were riddled with needle wounds — believed to be the result of injections of narcotic painkillers, given three times a day for years.

And a mass of surgery scars were thought to be the legacy of at least 13 cosmetic operations.

Experts found the distressing evidence of Jacko’s physical decline while investigating his startling death in Los Angeles last week.

The examination showed the 5ft 10in star — once famed for his on-stage athleticism — had:

PLUNGED to a “severely emaciated” 8st 1oz. It is understood anorexic Jackson had been eating just one meagre meal a day.

Pathologists found his stomach empty aside from partially-dissolved pills he took before the painkiller injection which stopped his heart. Samples were sent for toxicology tests.

LOST virtually all his hair. The pop pin-up was wearing a wig when he died and pathologists said little more than “peach fuzz” covered his scalp.

A scarred section of skin above his left ear was entirely bald — apparently the result of a 1984 accident when his hair caught fire as he filmed an ad for Pepsi.

SUFFERED several broken ribs as frantic rescuers pumped his chest after he collapsed in cardiac arrest. Four injection sites were found above or near to Jacko’s heart.

All appeared to result from attempts to pump adrenaline directly into the organ in a failed bit to restart it.

Three of the injections had penetrated the heart wall — causing damage — but a fourth missed and hit one of the 50-year-old star’s ribs.

The autopsy also found unexplained BRUISING on Jackson’s knees and on the fronts of both shins. And there were CUTS on his back, indicating a recent fall.

The King of Pop’s once handsome face bore a network of plastic surgery scars, while the bridge to his nose had vanished and its right side had partially collapsed.

As inquiries into the tragedy last night focused on the star’s personal physician Dr Conrad Murray, a source close to the Jackson entourage said: “Michael’s family and fans will be horrified when they realise the appalling state he was in.

“He was skin and bone, his hair had fallen out and had been eating nothing but pills when he died. Injection marks all over his body and the disfigurement caused by years of plastic surgery show he’d been in terminal decline for years.

“His doctors and the hangers-on stood by as he self-destructed. Somebody is going to have to pay.”

Cardiologist Dr Murray was thought to have given Jackson the final injection of painkiller Demerol.

He is facing serious questions about his resuscitation attempts, which began when he started CPR as Jacko lay unconscious on a bed. Basic first aid guidance says patients must be face-up on a hard surface before compressions.


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Experts yesterday expressed amazement that a trained cardiologist could have made such an error, potentially wasting vital minutes.

Additional damage was believed to have been caused by oxygen masks and tubing inserted during resuscitation attempts. But in an ironic twist, the probe found Jacko was recovering well from skin cancer — with an op to shave cells from his chest a total success.

A second autopsy demanded by the Jackson family was carried out at a secret location on Saturday after the first ruled out foul play.

Family friend Rev Jesse Jackson said the family were deeply suspicious about what caused his death.

Dr Murray was hired just 11 days ago by AEG Live — the firm masterminding Jacko’s 50-date residency at London’s O2 Arena, which was due to start next month.

Sources claimed the family were preparing a multi-million-dollar lawsuit against the cardiologist.

Detectives were unable to find the doctor at Jackson’s home and his car was taken away for analysis as police sought him for questioning. He surfaced late on Friday and was quizzed over the weekend.

The Sun told on Saturday how Jacko had developed stage fright for the first time and was terrified of performing the comeback gigs.

Aides claimed the ailing star even believed he would be KILLED if he pulled out on health grounds. We also revealed he was taking a potentially toxic cocktail of drugs.

Sources last night said prescriptions for drugs for patients other than Jacko were found at his home. Those patients were due to be quizzed.

n.parker@the-sun.co.uk

BlueAngel
06-29-2009, 09:55 PM
Doesn't sound at all like the scenario that has been painted surrounding Michael Jackson's health and state of mind, but, when one is under the influence of drugs, they can MASK alot.

What Michael Jackson Did on His Last Day - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20090629/us_time/08599190760100)

What Michael Jackson Did on His Last Day

AP By S. JAMES SNYDER – Mon Jun 29, 5:40 pm ET

Michael Jackson spent the last night of his life doing what he had always done: performing. The singer was in rehearsals at the Staples Center in Los Angeles, running through a full slate of songs from his upcoming 50-concert London event flanked by friends and colleagues. He marveled at the major set pieces that had finally been installed in the rehearsal space. "He was just glowing, and you could see it, that he was finally seeing it all come together," says Dorian Holley, the vocal director for Jackson's upcoming tour. "Up until Wednesday, it had always been [just a concept], but that last day you could see it in him, that he was seeing the show finally come together for the first time. It was a big moment." (See TIME's complete Michael Jackson coverage.)

Holley says he left rehearsals just before midnight on the night of June 24, as Jackson headed off to attend yet more meetings. About 12 hours later, a 911 call would be placed from Jackson's home in Holmby Hills, reporting urgently that "he's not breathing ... He's not responding to CPR, anything."

The pop icon had seemed different during these rehearsals - not ailing by any means, but perhaps more contemplative - says Holley, who has coached Jackson on solo tours since 1987. In preparing for previous tours, Holley said auditions for backup singers and other performing roles would usually be held via videotape, and it wouldn't be all that uncommon for the two to speak directly only two or three times over the span of a year. But for "This Is It," the London concerts scheduled to begin in July, Jackson was much more present and available, attending auditions and eagerly talking with everyone in the crew about the larger mission behind the tour. (See TIME's photos: "The Young Michael Jackson at Home.")

"It almost sounds crazy to say that the show wasn't about him, but ... he'd put it in perspective all the time, saying, 'This is what we're here for, to spread a message of love and taking care of the planet, that we want people to understand it's very, very dear and not to take it for granted,'" Holley tells TIME. (See TIME's top 10 Jackson moments.)

Until the last hour of rehearsals, Jackson maintained a ferocious, perfectionist pace, says Holley, who, after decades working with the singer, says he was still astonished by his vocal and physical prowess. Some in the public questioned whether Jackson, at 50, would still be able to command a stage, and recent reports published Sunday in Britain's Daily Mail said that Jackson had been too feeble to dance, sing or, at times, even speak in the weeks leading up to his death. But, Holley - despite his own early concerns about a lack of rehearsal time leading up to the first London shows in July - says the star's presence and energy during his final week was unequivocal. "He'd take the stage with this group of dancers, all in their 20s, but you couldn't take your eyes off him ... Many of his songs have six or seven parts, and he would often come over if we were missing an important note in our mix, and he would sing through all the parts rapid-fire to show us what he wanted. We would just sit there with our jaws open - it was awesome," Holley says. "He could still do everything ... The only difference now was that he would sometimes talk about how it made him sore." (Hear TIME's top 10 Jackson songs.)

"This time around, we had the technology to isolate just his microphone and listen to his singing separate from everything else. I had no idea what a genius he was. The way he's able to use his voice as a percussion instrument, lyricist, jazz singer all at the same time. I'm sure as people mine his works in years to come, they're going to discover how much is there," he says.

It was a text message on Thursday afternoon that gave Holley the first hint of bad news - a note saying Jackson had been rushed to the hospital. Neither he nor the crew knew how to react to the uncertainty, so they did what they always did - they went in to rehearse. Except this time, as fans all over the world from Los Angeles to New York City to Tokyo to Buenos Aires played his music, sang his songs and emulated his dance in tribute, Holley says the crew couldn't bring themselves to touch the music.

Jackson had been preparing to take the world back, Holley says, and during the singer's final night, he finally knew he was ready. "You would think that, on the one hand, the world has kind of beaten him up, and you could forgive him for having some trepidation and fear. But he didn't have any of that," says Holley. "Words fail to describe what people would have seen with the tour. I couldn't even imagine until last week when it became physically apparent [on the set]. He was ready to show the world, and I so wish there could have been just one concert so the world would have seen."

BlueAngel
06-29-2009, 10:02 PM
Someone is lying.

The Coroner and/or NICK PARKER and STEVE KENNEDY (the UK writers).

Either that or Nick Parker and Steve Kennedy received a fabricated autopsy report.

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L.A. Coroner's Office: Michael Jackson Autopsy Report Inaccurate

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The Los Angeles coroner's office on Monday dismissed as inaccurate a British newspaper report that said Michael Jackson was emaciated and almost bald when he died suddenly last week.

Jackson, who died June 25 after suffering cardiac arrest at the age 50, weighed just 112 pounds, was bald and badly disfigured at the time of his death, according to leaked results from an autopsy.

Britain's The Sun obtained a copy of the report, which claimed Jackson's face bore numerous scars as a result of 13 cosmetic operations. The bridge of Jackson's nose had disappeared and the right side had caved in, according to the paper. Jackson also reportedly had unexplained bruises on his knees and shins and bruising to his back, indicating a recent fall.

He was bald, the paper reports, with his shoulder-length hair just a wig. His hair has been reduced to a "peach fuzz" on his scalp, says the paper.

See how Michael Jackson's face has changed

The only thing pathologists found in the star's stomach were partially dissolved pills, which were removed for toxicology tests, according to the Sun.

Look back at Michael Jackson's life

Several of Jackson's ribs also had been broke as paramedics tried to revive the singer after he suffered cardiac arrest at his rented L.A. home, according to reports. There also were four injections around his heart, presumably from adrenaline shots during the failed resuscitation.

"He was skin and bone, his hair had fallen out and he had been eating nothing but pills when he died," the paper quotes a source as saying. "Injection marks all over his body and the disfigurement caused by years of plastic surgery show he'd been in terminal decline for years.

Revisit Michael Jacksons most unforgettable moments

Two autopsies were conducted one Jackson: One by the Los Angeles coroner and another by a private pathologist hired by the Jackson family.

On Sunday, a lawyer for Dr. Conrad Murray - the singer's private pathologist who discovered Jackson in bed and not breathing last Thursday - denied various media reports that Dr. Conrad prescribed or gave Jackson the drugs Demerol or OxyContin.

"Not ever. Not that day," he told the Associated Press.

BlueAngel
06-29-2009, 10:26 PM
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Nanny's Claim On Caring For Jackson: 'I Had To Pump His Stomach Many Times'Access Hollywood - June 28, 2009 12:29 PM PDT

Please enlighten me. How does someone who is not hospitalized have their stomach pumped by their children's Nanny?

LONDON, UK -- In a new interview with the UK's Sunday Times, Grace Rwaramba - Michael Jackson's longtime nanny - has revealed intimate details of her life with the private star and his three children.

"I miss my babies," Grace told the newspaper on Sunday, adding that for Michael's children, "I was the only mother they knew."

She worked with the pop star for 17 years before being fired recently - and not for the first time, in what she described as a cycle of debt and prescription drug use that took them from Bahrain to Ireland to Germany to New Jersey until Michael landed in Los Angeles to rehearse for a planned tour.

"I just got a phone call that Michael is in such a bad shape. He is not clean. He has not shaved . . . His nails . . . He is not eating well," she said of a call prior to Michael's death on Thursday. "I used to do all this for him. They are trying to lure me to go back. But each time it happened before, he got rid of me. Then he made promises if I would come back. All these promises . . . After few days, it was the same abuse all over again."

So, the Nanny shaved, bathed, fed and cared for Jackson's nails? Who called to inform her that he was in bad shape?

A source close to the Jackson family told Access Hollywood on Sunday that "everybody is shocked, upset and hurt" that Grace has made these revelations.

If this is the truth, why is the Jackson family hurt? Apparently, they were concerned about the health of their brother/son, as well. The Jackson family needn't attempt to cover up the fact that Michael Jackson was obviously not well. Mentally and physically. This isn't something of which the public was not aware.

Among Grace's charges were that Michael mixed prescription drugs, and she had to pump his stomach more than once.

How exactly did the Nanny of Jackson's children pump his stomach?

"He always ate too little and mixed too much," she said. "I had to pump his stomach many times... He always mixed so much of it. There was one period that it was so bad that I didn't let the children see him."

At one point, she said, she held an intervention with his sister, Janet, and his mother, Katherine.

Beyond that, Michael's last years were plagued by a mounting debt - and Grace alleged that Michael had tried to frame her over his finances.

"When [Sheikh] Abdullah sued Michael last year, Michael said in the beginning, 'Oh, I never got money from him,'" she said, explaining that the Sheik, the son of the king of Bahrain, had been paying Michael for services he never rendered through her bank account. "He tried to frame me that I took the money."

What services was Jackson to render to the Sheikh?

"There was no money," she added, citing Michael's massive expenditures - a trip to the birthday party of Prince Azim, the son of the Sultan of Brunei, and the purchase of antiques in Florence, Italy, among others. "Michael had no idea about money."

And even when it came to his planned 50-date run of performances at the O2 Arena in London this July, she said Michael didn't realize what he'd gotten himself into.

50 shows?

"He said, 'I signed only for 10.' He didn't know what he was signing. He never does!"

On the home front, Grace, who said she served as the children's de facto mother, noted that they were uncomfortable around their father and disliked the masks he made them wear in public.

Not surprising they disliked the masks. Seems like a mild form of child abuse to me.

"When Michael was around, they froze," she said. "He didn't like me hugging them. But they needed love. I was the only mother they knew... I [was] getting phone calls that they [were] being neglected. Nobody is cleaning the rooms, because he didn't pay the housekeeper."

Why is it Jackson didn't want his children to be hugged?

BlueAngel
06-29-2009, 10:29 PM
What is Joe Jackson's occupation?

Riding on his son's coattails?

BlueAngel
06-29-2009, 11:02 PM
Obviously, the Entertainment company who hired Dr. Murray as Jackson's personal physician can tell us why Michael needed a doctor residing with him 24/7.

I'm certain they wouldn't have contracted with a doctor at the salary of $150,000/$300,000 per month unless it was for good reason.

So, what was the reason?

Why did Jackson need a personal physician living with him?

Dr. Murray is a Cardiologist.

Did Michael Jackson have a heart problem?

They have the means to induce cardiac arrest and you know of what I speak.

Most people, celebrities or not, do not require that a personal physician reside with them UNLESS there is a DIRE MEDICAL REASON and if there is a dire medical reason, most people are hospitalized and wouldn't be able to embark on a tour that included 50 shows.

There are doctors who serve the THUGS within the entertainment industry by providing injections and prescription narcotics to celebrities who have served their purpose and are no longer an asset. These doctors assist the THUGS by turning these celebrities into addicts and thereby aiding in their destruction/demise. The THUGS emerge with their hands clean and, so, too, do the doctors. It's called an overdose; blame it on the celebrity and yet, doctors are to blame for prescribing a "letal cocktail."

We've seen it all too often.

Jackson's controllers could have told him that he suffered from this and from that.

He may have believed it and they proceeded to prescribe medication.

The cycle begins in that way.

I'm still waiting on the name of the 911 caller and the doctors who prescribed Oxycontin and Demerol.

Just think Elvis.

Worth more dead than alive.

iHIMself™
06-30-2009, 05:48 AM
It's all about money. Just like Britney, if you are not making money, when clearly you have a huge fan base that can create millions of dollars, that just aren't being made, for whatever reason, THEY will try to destroy you. Hence, Britney being hounded and ridiculed by the media...until she stepped back into the game....enthusiastically. Not like that grammy performance where she clearly showed she wasn't interested. And was drummed for it.
Michael had an enormous fan base, and an even bigger potential to generate billions of dollars, that was just dorment. They could make an absolute fortune from him if he could just cooperate. But he didn't want to. To THEM, he was better off dead. He was worth more dead. And so it is.
My wife wouldn't believe me.....until she heard the 911 call.
Sometimes I wonder whether they blatently produce such evidence in the face of the world, so people like me can see that they are in control. Of everyone. It's amazing what people swallow without question. But there is nothing that can be done about it. The new world order has begun. Be careful what you say. They are listening. I quoted and linked a website that stipulated waterboarding IS drowning, only to have that website's story removed the next morning. It's quite sad. Not scary, just sad. Fascism is here. And now. The only difference between Hitler and the New world order, is that Hitler made Germans very proud. Of him, themselves, their race, and their motherland. I feel nothing but shame and disgust. Maybe they know what they are doing. After all, the majority are indeed absolute idiots. Maybe I'm speaking like this because I don't know what the agenda really is. A new world order? One nation under god? It's all hypocrisy from the most evil doers to jesus christ. All I can say is that I know truth when I feel it, but I am also as ignorant as they come. Maybe Michael HAD to be dead, just like the Kennedy's, Martin Luther King Jnr, Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, Roosevelt, Ghandi, John Lennon, Yitzhak Rabin, Kennedy Jr, those in the Twin Towers, Oaklahoma, Bali, Port Arthur, and countless more in wars that were to end all wars. Maybe, just maybe, I am wrong and unpatriotic in even suggesting these assassinations, these killings, these sacrifices, weren't for the BEST for humanity.

iHIMself™
06-30-2009, 05:51 AM
Maybe, just maybe, I should ad Elvis on that list.

BlueAngel
06-30-2009, 07:38 PM
It's all about money. Just like Britney, if you are not making money, when clearly you have a huge fan base that can create millions of dollars, that just aren't being made, for whatever reason, THEY will try to destroy you. Hence, Britney being hounded and ridiculed by the media...until she stepped back into the game....enthusiastically. Not like that grammy performance where she clearly showed she wasn't interested. And was drummed for it.
Michael had an enormous fan base, and an even bigger potential to generate billions of dollars, that was just dorment. They could make an absolute fortune from him if he could just cooperate. But he didn't want to. To THEM, he was better off dead. He was worth more dead. And so it is.
My wife wouldn't believe me.....until she heard the 911 call.
Sometimes I wonder whether they blatently produce such evidence in the face of the world, so people like me can see that they are in control. Of everyone. It's amazing what people swallow without question. But there is nothing that can be done about it. The new world order has begun. Be careful what you say. They are listening. I quoted and linked a website that stipulated waterboarding IS drowning, only to have that website's story removed the next morning. It's quite sad. Not scary, just sad. Fascism is here. And now. The only difference between Hitler and the New world order, is that Hitler made Germans very proud. Of him, themselves, their race, and their motherland. I feel nothing but shame and disgust. Maybe they know what they are doing. After all, the majority are indeed absolute idiots. Maybe I'm speaking like this because I don't know what the agenda really is. A new world order? One nation under god? It's all hypocrisy from the most evil doers to jesus christ. All I can say is that I know truth when I feel it, but I am also as ignorant as they come. Maybe Michael HAD to be dead, just like the Kennedy's, Martin Luther King Jnr, Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, Roosevelt, Ghandi, John Lennon, Yitzhak Rabin, Kennedy Jr, those in the Twin Towers, Oaklahoma, Bali, Port Arthur, and countless more in wars that were to end all wars. Maybe, just maybe, I am wrong and unpatriotic in even suggesting these assassinations, these killings, these sacrifices, weren't for the BEST for humanity.

Interesting.

For now, I'll add one comment about Britney.

Spears was having break-through memories of abuse.

IMO, in order to STOP her from embarking further on this path; believe me, I know, her handlers/controllers caused a "psychotic" break.

Britney appeared CRAZY for a period of time.

The purpose of the "psychotic" break was twofold.

(1) So that she could be INSTITUTIONALIZED; programming adjusted and GOD only knows what else in order to get her back with the PROGRAM; back into the altered state in which she resides wherein the abuse from her past does not exist and under the control of her handlers again.

(2) During her unstable period, Britney said that her phones were tapped, her husband, Kevin Federline worked for the FBI and that her mother and he had sex among other things that sounded outlandish.

Maybe her phones were tapped, maybe someone suggested what she said about Federline and the FBI and Federline and her mother so she would speak this, because, if her suicide attempts failed, which they did and they couldn't get her back into the program; back in line, THEY NEEDED TO MAKE HER LOOK CRAZY and/or PARANOID because, if her break-through memories continued she most probably wouldn't be believed.

BlueAngel
06-30-2009, 08:30 PM
I'll be back to comment on this article.

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Insomniac Jackson begged for drug
AP, Jun 30, 2009 6:36 pm PDT

Michael Jackson was so distraught over persistent insomnia in recent months that he pleaded for a powerful sedative despite warnings it could be harmful, says a nutritionist who was working with the singer as he prepared his comeback bid.

How did he know about this powerful sedative? Couldn't one of his doctors prescribe Ambien or something less dangerous?

Cherilyn Lee, a registered nurse whose specialty includes nutritional counseling, said Tuesday that she repeatedly rejected his demands for the drug, Diprivan, which is given intravenously.

But a frantic phone call she received from Jackson four days before his death made her fear that he somehow obtained Diprivan or another drug to induce sleep, Lee said.

Cherilyn says she received a call from Jackson, but in the next paragraph she says she received a call from a member of Jackson's staff.

While in Florida on June 21, Lee was contacted by a member of Jackson's staff.

"He called and was very frantic and said, `Michael needs to see you right away.' I said, 'What's wrong?' And I could hear Michael in the background ..., 'One side of my body is hot, it's hot, and one side of my body is cold. It's very cold,'" Lee said.

"I said, `Tell him he needs to go the hospital. I don't know what's going on, but he needs to go to the hospital ... right away."

"At that point, I knew that somebody had given him something that hit the central nervous system," she said, adding, "He was in trouble Sunday and he was crying out."

Cherilyn knows that somebody had given Jackson something that hit the central nervous system because he said that one side of his body was hot and the other cold. Sorry, but you can't know this unless you were there. Maybe, it's true, but, again, you can't know this unless you actually witnessed someone injecting Jackson. Why did the staff member call Cherilyn instead of taking Jackson to the hospital?

Jackson did not go to the hospital. He died June 25 after suffering cardiac arrest, his family said. Autopsies have been conducted, but an official cause of death is not expected for several weeks.

"I don't know what happened there. The only thing I can say is he was adamant about this drug," Lee said.

Why was Jackson adamant about this drug? Had he been receiving it and then cut-off so he sought this nurse to prescribe same?

Following Jackson's death, allegations emerged that the 50-year-old King of Pop had been consuming painkillers, sedatives and antidepressants. But Lee said she encountered a man tortured by sleep deprivation and one who expressed opposition to recreational drug use.

Allegations have not emerged. Jackson's FAMILY has stated that Jackson was over using prescription drugs/narcotics and other people outside of the Jackson family, such as Deepak Chopra stated that Jackson asked him for a prescription. Jackson's Nanny has expressed that Michael was over using prescription medications/narcotics/drugs/painkillers. Dr. Conrad Murray prescribed medications for him. Obviously, it is truth and not fiction. Oxycontin, Demerol and now this sedative have been mentioned. Cherilyn professes Jackson expressed opposition to recreational drug use. Doesn't sound like he lived by his words.

"He wasn't looking to get high or feel good and sedated from drugs," she said. "This was a person who was not on drugs. This was a person who was seeking help, desperately, to get some sleep, to get some rest."

How can this nurse state that Jackson wasn't on drugs? Dr. Conrad Murray prescribed medications. Prescription drugs were found in Jackson's body after the autopsy. His family was concerned about his drug use. Anti-depressants, Oxycontin, Demerol and sedatives have been mentioned.

Jackson was rehearsing hard for what would have been his big comeback — his "This Is It" tour, a series of performances that would have strained his aging dancer's body.

Also, pain had been a part of his life since 1984, when his scalp was severely burned during a Pepsi commercial shoot.

Several months ago, Jackson had begun badgering Lee about Diprivan, also known as Propofol, Lee said. It is an intravenous anesthetic drug widely used in operating rooms to induce unconsciousness. It is generally given through an IV needle in the hand.

Why would Jackson badger Cherilyn about Diprivan unless he was familiar with it?

Patients given Propofol take less time to regain consciousness than those administered certain other drugs, and they report waking up more clear-headed and refreshed, said University of Chicago psychopharmacologist James Zacny.

It has also been implicated in drug abuse, with people using it to "chill out" or to commit suicide, Zacny said. Accidental deaths linked to abuse have been reported. The powerful drug has a very narrow therapeutic window, meaning it doesn't take doses much larger than the medically recommended amount to stop a person's breathing.

Sound like a real safe drug. I mean, if you want to go to sleep forever.

An overdose that stops breathing can result in a buildup of carbon dioxide, causing the heart to beat erratically and leading to cardiac arrest, said Dr. John Dombrowski, a member of the board of directors of the American Society of Anesthesiologists.

Diprivan can cause cardiac arrest.

Because it is given intravenously and is not the kind of prescription drug typically available from pharmacists, abuse cases have involved anesthesiologists, nurses and other hospital staffers with easy access to the drug, Zacny said.

Diprivan is injected. It is typically not available from pharmacists. So, if Jackson was given this sedative, who obtained it for him and who injected him with it?

In recent months, Lee said, Jackson waved away her warnings about it.
"I had an IV and when it hit my vein, I was sleeping. That's what I want," Lee said Jackson told her.

Here we go. Step up to the plate. Who injected Jackson with the sedative? He told Lee he had it before.

"I said, 'Michael, the only problem with you taking this medication' — and I had a chill in my body and tears in my eyes three months ago — 'the only problem is you're going to take it and you're not going to wake up," she recalled.

According to Lee, Jackson said it had been given to him before but he didn't want to discuss the circumstances or identify the doctor involved.

Well, that's shocking. Seems no one wants to identify these GHOST doctors within the entertainment industry who provide NARCOTICS and lethal cocktails to their so-called patients.

The singer also drew his own distinctions when it came to drugs versus prescription medicine.

"He said, `I don't like drugs. I don't want any drugs. My doctor told me this is a safe medicine,'" Lee said. The next day, she said she brought a copy of the Physician's Desk Reference to show him the section on Diprivan.

"He said, 'No, my doctor said it's safe. It works quick and it's safe as long as somebody's here to monitor me and wake me up. It's going be OK,'" Lee
said. She said he did not give the doctor's name.

Sorry, but obviously Jackson liked drugs and it appears there were plenty of doctors around who aided in his addiction. It is criminal that the doctor who injected Jackson with this sedative told him it was safe. From what I've read, it doesn't sound safe to me. Pharmacies don't prescribe it.

Lee said at one point, she spent the night with Jackson to monitor him while he slept. She said she gave him herbal remedies and stayed in a corner chair in his vast bedroom.

After he settled in bed, Lee told Jackson to turn down the lights and music — he had classical music playing in the house. "He also had a computer on the bed because he loved Walt Disney," she said. "He was watching Donald Duck and it was ongoing. I said, `Maybe if we put on softer music,' and he said, `No, this is how I go to sleep.'"

Jackson loved Walt Disney. Somehow that doesn't shock me.

Three and a half hours later, Jackson jumped up and looked at Lee, eyes wide open, according to Lee. "This is what happens to me," she quoted him as saying. "All I want is to be able to sleep. I want to be able to sleep eight hours. I know I'll feel better the next day."

Lee, 56, is licensed as a registered nurse and nurse practitioner in California, according to the state Board of Registered Nursing's Web site. She attended Los Angeles Southwest College and the Charles Drew University of Medicine and Sciences in Los Angeles.

Comedian Dick Gregory, who knows Lee and her work, said he believes Jackson's insomnia had its roots in the pop star's 2005 trial on child molestation charges. Jackson's health had deteriorated so much that his parents called Gregory, a natural foods proponent, for help.

Gregory said Jackson wasn't eating or drinking at the time and, after he was persuaded by Gregory to undergo testing, ended up hospitalized for severe dehydration.

But Jackson obviously was healthy enough to withstand the level of medical scrutiny needed to insure him for the upcoming high-stakes London concerts, Gregory said. "That you don't trick," he said of the exams.

What level of medical scrutiny do performers undergo before embarking on a tour? Obviously, those who are not well.

Lee, who has also worked with Stevie Wonder, Marla Gibbs, Reynaldo Rey and other celebrities, said she was introduced to Jackson by the mother of one of his staff members. Jackson's three children had minor cold symptoms and their pediatrician was out of town.

Lee said she went to the house in January, the first of about 10 visits there through April, and treated the children with vitamins. Michael, intrigued, asked what else she did and took her up on her claim she could boost his energy.

After running blood tests, she devised protein shakes for him and gave him an intravenous vitamin and mineral mixture — known as a "Myers cocktail," after Dr. John Myers — which Lee said she uses routinely in her practice.

Sounds like Jackson enjoyed being injected. What? You can't drink the mixture that Lee provided for Jackson. It has to be given intravenously? Sounds odd to me.

"It wasn't that he felt sick," she said. "He just wanted more energy."
Lee said she decided to speak out to protect Jackson's reputation from what she considers unfounded allegations of drug abuse or shortcomings as a parent.

I highly doubt the allegations of drug abuse are unfounded, Lee. His family has stated publicly that they were concerned about Jackson's use of drugs.

"I think it's so wrong for people to say these things about him," she said. "He was a wonderful, loving father who wanted the best for his children."

It's not wrong. It's the truth.
___
AP Medical Writer Lindsey Tanner in Chicago and AP Television Writer David Bauder in New York contributed to this report.

BlueAngel
07-01-2009, 12:22 AM
Jackson/Rowe Not the Biological Parents | TMZ.com (http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/30/michael-jackson-debbie-rowe-surrogate-children-in-vitro/)

Jackson/Rowe Not the Biological Parents
Posted Jun 30th 2009 12:00PM by TMZ Staff

We've learned Michael Jackson was not the biological father of any of his children. And Debbie Rowe is not the biological mother of the two kids she bore for Michael. All three children were conceived in vitro -- outside the womb.

Multiple sources deeply connected to the births tell us Michael was not the sperm donor for any of his kids. Debbie's eggs were not used. She was merely the surrogate, and paid well for her services in the births of Michael Jr. and Paris.

In the case of Prince Michael II (the youngest), we're told the surrogate was never told of the identity of the "receiving parent" -- Michael Jackson. Three days after Prince was born at Grossmont Hospital in San Diego County, Jackson's lawyer came to the hospital to pick the baby up and deliver him to Michael.

We do not know if Jackson chose the sperm or egg donors or if he even knew who they were.

Although Rowe is not the biological mother, it's not a slam dunk that she would lose a custody battle. This type of case has never been litigated in California courts. Since Rowe was married to Jackson when Michael Jr. and Paris were born, there's a presumption that she's the biological parent. That presumption can be rebutted by other evidence.

We know there are documents outlining the whole arrangement for the birth of all three kids. Nonetheless, it's still an open issue with the courts.

BlueAngel
07-01-2009, 02:43 AM
TOO WEIRD!

Jackson's nurse fed him an energy booster mixture intravenously.

It's startin' to sound to me like the doctors/nurses within Jackson's circle just LOVED jabbing needles into his body.

Seems like no matter how many doctors/nurses Jackson had in his presence, they couldn't save him, in the end.

Could be they contributed to his demise.

Maybe he would have been better off without them.

Just a thought!

BlueAngel
07-01-2009, 02:59 AM
What a bunch of quacks.

Hey, Cherilyn, I'm feeling kind of lethargic.

Do you think you can bring your traveling IV pole and needle over to my house and feed me intravenously with an energy booster?

How much do you charge?

BlueAngel
07-01-2009, 03:12 AM
Excuse me, but the LAPD do not appear to be doing their job.

There was another person present in the room when Dr. Conrad Murray was attemping to revive Michael Jackson.

He was the UNNAMED 911 caller.

Why has his name not been released and why has he not been questioned?

BlueAngel
07-01-2009, 03:14 AM
Still awaiting the identity of the 911 caller and what he witnessed.

Is there some reason why he is being protected?

BlueAngel
07-01-2009, 03:29 AM
The Jackson family is allowing a public viewing of their son/brother's body at Neverland Ranch, the place where Michael sexually abused children.

Get rid of that place.

What a disgrace.

Smooth Criminal
07-01-2009, 06:56 AM
I know one thing,there were 3 person near Michael,in the last minutes of his life...maybe u can help me to understand what happened really,and who they were.Second may I ask if in the news they talk about cars incident or something similar?After the autopsie they found in Michael body some signs that can think about it?

Butterfly21
07-01-2009, 10:09 AM
Michael Jackson became a freemason when his first breakthrough album "Off the Wall" was released and of course that was when he signed up with record Producer Quincy Jones who also worked with him in "The Wiz". If anyone has seen this movie they will see many of the masonic references throughout the film.

Later on Michael Jackson rebelled against being a freemason and thus all the false allegations of child abuse in 93-94 and thereafter.

In my opinion having read many articles about Michael, he was on a pedestal (going on and off ) with the freemasons. As he began trusting the wrong people such as Rev Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson who are also freemasons.

Last year on November 21st media reports confirmed that Michael Jackson converted to Islam.

YouTube - Michael Jackson converts to Islam !!

Michael Jackson Becomes A Muslim Named Mikaeel (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/21/michael-jackson-becomes-a_n_145431.html)

Michael Jackson 'becomes a Muslim and changes name to Mikaeel' | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1088225/Michael-Jackson-Muslim-changes-Mikaeel.html)

Call him Mikaeel? Michael Jackson reportedly converts to Islam (http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music/2008/11/21/2008-11-21_call_him_mikaeel_michael_jackson_reporte.html)

216 days later he died aged 50. Both numbers 216 and 50 are relevant numbers in Freemasonry it would be too much for me to go into. But what does that tell you, was this a timed and planned murder from the Freemasons/ Illuminatis??

The most obvious reason I can think of this planned death of Michael Jackson was because of the vast amount of influence and fans he had across the world. And the message he was planning to give out to the world would have caused a huge impact and perhaps realisation of the truth, as Jermaine Jackson also a muslim said
“He could do so much, just like I am trying to do. Michael and I and the word of God, we could do so much.”

Mikaeel Jackson aka Michael Jackson Rest in Peace. X

BlueAngel
07-01-2009, 10:25 AM
You cannot state with certainty that the "child abuse" allegations against Michael Jackson were false.

That is your opinion.

In most cases, children who are mind control victims and are not fortunate enough to escape, are corrupted from a very early age and commit acts of pedophilia into their adult hood.

This is a form of CONTROL.

Jackson did not have the influence around the world as you suggest and, this, the reason for his demise.

Butterfly21
07-01-2009, 05:46 PM
Well, judging by these facts;

Jordan which was the boy's name who Michael apparently abused had told his school teacher that he had lied about the abuse, and that his parents had a history of swindling money out of people and that they also accepted a pay off from Michael Jackson.

I'd say that my "opinion" as you call it is most probable. If they were honest people then they wouldnt have accepted any money from him, because I can tell you as a parent myself if that had happened to my child no amount of money could have bought me off. Lastly Michael Jackson was acquitted of all charges.

And of course what you say is also your opinion, no facts there. :)

BlueAngel
07-02-2009, 09:13 AM
Michael Jackson News - Yahoo! Music (http://new.music.yahoo.com/michael-jackson/news/dea-joins-michael-jackson-death-probe--61990644)

Michael Jackson News
DEA joins Michael Jackson death probe
AP, Jul 2, 2009 8:19 am PDT

The circumstances surrounding Michael Jackson's death have become a federal issue, with the Drug Enforcement Administration asked to help police take a look at the pop star's doctors and possible drug use.Following Jackson's death, allegations emerged that the 50-year-old King of Pop had been consuming painkillers, sedatives and antidepressants.

The DEA was asked to help the probe by the Los Angeles Police Department, a law enforcement official in Washington told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the investigation.

The federal agency can provide resources and experience in investigating drug abuse, illicit drug manufacturers known as "pill mills" and substances local police may not be familiar with, the official said Wednesday.

Medium Uri Geller, a former Jackson confidant, said Thursday he tried to keep Jackson from abusing painkillers and other prescription drugs, but others in the singer's circle kept him supplied.
"When Michael asked for something, he got it. This was the great tragedy," Geller said in a telephone interview with the AP from his suburban London home.
While the investigation into the singer's death deepened, passionate Michael Jackson fans spent another day in an uneasy limbo, awaiting word from the King of Pop's camp about where and when a memorial service might be held for their hero — and if they're even invited.

Speculation about the potential location of a memorial ricocheted during the day from the Staples Center to the Los Angeles Coliseum to the Nokia Theater.

One spot that was ruled out as an immediate memorial venue was Jackson's sprawling Neverland ranch in Santa Barbara County. Jackson family spokesman Ken Sunshine said a public memorial was in the works for Jackson but it wouldn't be held at Neverland.

Jermaine Jackson said in an interview that aired on NBC's "Today" show Thursday that he would still like to see Neverland as his younger brother's final resting place.

He also said that he wishes he had died instead of Michael.

"He went too soon," Jermaine Jackson said. "I don't know how people are going to take this, but I wish it was me."

The elimination of the proposed Neverland memorial came as a blow to many Jackson fans who had already descended on the estate in the rolling hills near Santa Barbara with the hope of attending a public viewing.

"We're terribly disappointed," said Ida Barron, 44, who arrived with her husband Paul Barron, 56, intending to spend several days in a tent.

It appeared more likely that a funeral and burial would take place in Los Angeles, a person familiar with the situation told The Associated Press.
Many of Jackson's die-hard fans refused to believe that the family would bury their most famous son without acknowledging the supporters who helped propel him to superstardom.

"I can't believe they wouldn't do something for his fans," said Rosie Padron, who had roped off a spot just outside the Neverland gates. "Michael loved his fans."

New Yorkers weren't willing to wait. The weekly Amateur Night at the Apollo Theater turned into a Jackson celebration, with impersonators emulating his outfits and mimicking his dance moves.

Allison Hector, who wore a T-shirt with the image of the "Thriller" album cover, ecstatically emulated moves she learned watching Jackson's music videos.

"Nobody moves like him," the 19-year-old said, her eyes filling with tears. "I feel it in my blood — I just can't help it!"

On the legal front, Jackson's 7-year-old will was filed Wednesday in a Los Angeles court, giving his entire estate to a family trust and naming his 79-year-old mother Katherine and his three children as beneficiaries. The will also estimates the current value of his estate at more than $500 million.

Katherine Jackson was appointed the children's guardian, with entertainer Diana Ross, a longtime friend of Michael Jackson, named successor guardian if something happens to his mother. A court will ultimately decide who the children's legal guardian will be.

Jackson's lawyer John Branca and family friend John McClain, a music executive, were named in the will as co-executors of his estate. In a statement, they said the most important element of the will was Jackson's steadfast desire that his mother become the legal guardian for his children.

"As we work to carry out Michael's instructions to safeguard both the future of his children as well as the remarkable legacy he left us as an artist, we ask that all matters involving his estate be handled with the dignity and the respect that Michael and his family deserve," the statement said.

The will doesn't name father Joe Jackson to any position of authority in administering the estate. Also shut out is ex-wife Debbie Rowe, the mother of his two oldest children.

The executors moved quickly to take control of all of Michael Jackson's property, going to court hours after filing the will to challenge a previous ruling that gave Katherine Jackson control of 2,000 items from Neverland.
Paul Gordon Hoffman, an attorney for the executors, told Superior Court Judge Mitchell Beckloff his clients are the proper people to take over Jackson's financial affairs. He called Katherine Jackson's speed in getting limited power over her son's property "a race to the courthouse that is, frankly, improper."

Judge Beckloff urged attorneys from both sides to try to reach a compromise. A hearing on the estate was set for Monday.

The will, dated July 7, 2002, gives the entire estate to the Michael Jackson Family Trust. Details of the trust will not be made public.
Jackson owns a 50 percent stake in the massive Sony-ATV Music Publishing Catalog, which includes music by the Beatles, Bob Dylan, Neil Diamond, Lady Gaga and the Jonas Brothers.

Jackson, who died June 25 at age 50, left behind three children: son Michael Joseph Jr., known as Prince Michael, 12; daughter Paris Michael Katherine, 11; and son Prince Michael II, 7. Rowe was the mother of the two oldest children; the youngest was born to a surrogate mother, who has never been identified.

Rowe, who was married to Jackson in 1996 and filed for divorce three years later, surrendered her parental rights. An appeals court later found that was done in error, and Rowe and Jackson entered an out-of-court settlement in 2006.

Neither Rowe nor her attorneys have indicated whether she intends to seek custody of the two oldest children.
___
AP writers Michael R. Blood, Noaki Schwartz and Ryan Nakashima in Los Angeles; John Rogers in Los Olivos; Michele Salcedo in Washington; and AP Entertainment Writer Erin Carlson in New York contributed to this story.

BlueAngel
07-02-2009, 09:17 AM
Well, judging by these facts;

Jordan which was the boy's name who Michael apparently abused had told his school teacher that he had lied about the abuse, and that his parents had a history of swindling money out of people and that they also accepted a pay off from Michael Jackson.

Please provide the history of Jordon's parents swindling money.

I'd say that my "opinion" as you call it is most probable. If they were honest people then they wouldnt have accepted any money from him, because I can tell you as a parent myself if that had happened to my child no amount of money could have bought me off. Lastly Michael Jackson was acquitted of all charges.

So, if the boy lied; Jackson was acquitted, why the pay-off? You may not have accepted the money if your child didn't lie (how would you know?) because, perhaps, you aren't less forunate and with a sick child and, quite possibly, have the means to fight the battle in court. You probably wouldn't have won, in any case, because it's too difficult to win against those persons/corporations who defend their property. But, if you did win, your settlement most likely would have been money. I highly doubt they were willling to allow Jackson to serve prison time.

And of course what you say is also your opinion, no facts there. :)

Inside the box.

P.S. A lot of times, children retract when undergoing psychological evaluation. It isn't uncommon.

Pay-offs to keep people silent and have them quietly slip into the woodwork is common practice.

How many times was Jackson accused of child sexual abuse?

The first accusation arose 16 years ago.

BlueAngel
07-02-2009, 09:20 AM
Jackson's hospital is known for 'raising the dead' - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090701/ap_on_he_me/us_med_michael_jackson_raising_the_dead)

Jackson's hospital is known for 'raising the dead'

AP – By MARILYNN MARCHIONE, AP Medical Writer Marilynn Marchione
2 hrs 45 mins ago

When Michael Jackson went into cardiac arrest, rescuers took him to a place known for bringing the dead back to life. A world-renowned surgeon at the UCLA Medical Center has pioneered a way to revive people that most doctors would have long written off, including a woman whose heart had stopped for
2-1/2 hours.

Tested on a few dozen cardiac arrest patients, 80 percent survived. Usually, more than 80 percent perish.

"They took people who were basically dead, not all that different than Michael Jackson, and saved most of them," said Dr. Lance Becker, an emergency medicine specialist at the University of Pennsylvania and an American Heart Association spokesman.

Could Jackson, too, have been saved?

It's impossible to know. Doctors at the hospital worked on him for an hour. The UCLA expert, cardiothoracic surgeon Dr. Gerald Buckberg, said he was not personally involved in Jackson's treatment, and that too little is known about what preceded it.

"We have no idea when he died versus when he was found," Buckberg said in a telephone interview.

However, the results in other patients show that "the window is wide open to new thinking" about how long people can be successfully resuscitated after their hearts quit beating, Buckberg said. "We can salvage them way beyond the current time frames that are used. We've changed the concept of when the heart is dead permanently."

They call it "the Lazarus syndrome" for the man the Bible says Jesus raised from the dead.

Let's be clear: No one is saying that people long dead without medical attention can be revived. The lucky ones in Buckberg's study received quick help, and the reason they suffered cardiac arrest was known and could be fixed: blocked arteries causing a heart attack, in most cases.

Buckberg's method requires:

_Prompt CPR — rhythmic chest compressions — to maintain blood pressure until the patient gets to a hospital.

_Use of a heart-lung machine to keep blood and oxygen moving through the body while doctors remedy what caused the heart to quiver or stop in the first place, such as a drug overdose or a clogged artery.

_Special procedures and medicines to gradually restore blood and oxygen flow, so a sudden gush does not cause fresh damage.

Without all three elements, patients might suffer brain damage if they survive at all.

"You can save the heart and lose the brain," Buckberg explained.

UCLA and hospitals in Birmingham, Ala.; Ann Arbor, Mich.; and in Germany tested Buckberg's method on 34 patients who had been in cardiac arrest for an average of 72 minutes. All had failed resuscitation methods with standard CPR and defibrillation to try to shock their hearts back to beating.

Only seven died. Only two survivors were left with permanent neurological damage. Results were published in 2006 in the journal Resuscitation.

Dr. Constantine Athanasuleas (pronounced uh-than-uh-SOO'-lee-us), a surgeon at the University of Alabama at Birmingham, treated one man in the study who had been in cardiac arrest for about an hour and a half. The man's wife, a nurse, did CPR until a helicopter brought him to the hospital.

"He was flatlined," with a heart "as still as your dining room table," Athanasuleas said.

Doctors put him on a heart-lung machine, whisked him to the catheterization lab to see if he had artery blockages, then did bypass surgery to detour around them.

"The guy went home and was neurologically perfect" at least two years later, the doctor said.

Buckberg treated a woman who had been in cardiac arrest for 2 1/2 hours.

He would not send her to the operating room until her CPR and blood pressure could be maintained so further treatment could be attempted, he said.

Sadly, the woman survived all this but died several weeks later from an infection.

Buckberg has taken his work further in experiments with pigs in cardiac arrest. He deliberately deprived their brains of blood flow for half an hour, then used his resuscitation techniques to bring them back, with normal or near-normal function. Results presented at a heart association conference last fall stunned many, including Dr. Myron Weisfeldt, a cardiologist and chairman of medicine at Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine.

"He's doing extraordinary things. You almost don't believe the results that he got," Weisfeldt said of Buckberg. "Most of us carry around in our head that if somebody's brain is deprived of blood flow for 10 to 15 minutes that we're just not going to get them back to any useful function. His data suggest it's possible."

Doctors in Japan, Taiwan and elsewhere in Asia have tried approaches similar to Buckberg's with excellent results, said Becker, who is about to try it in Philadelphia.

"It takes training. It takes rethinking" to get doctors to adopt something this new, and funding for bigger studies to prove it works, Buckberg said.

___

BlueAngel
07-02-2009, 09:00 PM
Bump.

BlueAngel
07-02-2009, 09:28 PM
That's odd.

The LAPD towed Dr. Conrad Murray's car for evidence, but they didn't seal Jackson's home.

My comments are in bold.

Los Angeles police under scrutiny in Jackson death - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090702/ap_on_en_mu/us_michael_jackson_investigation)

Los Angeles police under scrutiny in Jackson death

AP – By LINDA DEUTSCH and THOMAS WATKINS, Associated Press Writers

1 hr 1 min ago

LOS ANGELES – The investigation of Michael Jackson's death is widening as questions intensify about the drugs he took, the doctors who provided them and the actions of police.

Why didn't police seal the mansion where he had been living? Why didn't they get immediate search warrants? Why did they tow away a doctor's car right after the death but not declare the home a crime scene? And why was Jackson's sister Janet allowed to move possessions out of the mansion two days after the death, before police searched it?

Los Angeles police say proper procedures were followed based on the circumstances officers encountered when they were called to the home at 12:21 p.m. on June 25. A doctor was attending to Jackson and stayed with him when he was placed in an ambulance at 1:07 p.m. There was no sign of foul play.

Others say police should have assumed it was possible a crime occurred and taken precautions to ensure the scene was not disrupted so evidence wasn't lost or tainted.

"If I was the chief detective on the case, I would have said, 'We don't know what's going on. We should seal the scene,'" said defense attorney Harland Braun, who has represented celebrities including Robert Blake, Roseanne and Gary Busey. "You always have to think of the worst-case scenario and you have to think fast. I would have sealed the scene just because it was Michael Jackson."

Whether the Jackson probe turns into a criminal investigation hinges on what evidence emerges involving the drugs. Charges could be brought if authorities determine Jackson had been overly prescribed medications, if he had been given drugs inappropriate for his medical needs, or if doctors knowingly prescribed Jackson medications under an assumed name.

It's still not known what caused Jackson's death at age 50. The pop star went into cardiac arrest in his bedroom and his personal physician, Dr. Conrad Murray, performed CPR while an ambulance was called, according to Murray's lawyers. Murray has spoken to police and authorities say he is not a suspect, though his actions have come under scrutiny because his own lawyers acknowledge it may have taken up to a half-hour for an ambulance to be summoned.

An autopsy was conducted but results are not expected for several weeks. The Jackson family had a second autopsy performed and those results also are pending.

Why does a toxicology report take several weeks?

On Wednesday, The Associated Press learned Los Angeles police asked the Drug Enforcement Administration to assist in the investigation.

DEA agents participated in the investigation of the 2007 overdose death of Anna Nicole Smith at a Florida hotel. California Attorney General Jerry Brown charged her former boyfriend and two of her doctors in March with conspiring to provide Smith with prescription drugs. Brown said they broke the law because Smith was a "known addict." They deny the charges.

The DEA also probed whether painkillers found in actor Heath Ledger's system after his death last year were obtained illegally. Federal prosecutors did not charge anyone.

Jean Rosenbluth, a University of Southern California law professor, said the agency's involvement in the Jackson case suggests authorities are looking into whether drugs came from out of state. Murray lives in Las Vegas and is licensed to practice in Texas, Nevada and California.

Federal drug regulations include controls over whether and how frequently a doctor can write prescriptions over the phone, and DEA agents could be looking to see if these rules were broken, Rosenbluth said.

"You can't just get on the phone and continue to prescribe something for someone without having seen them for a long period of time," she said.

Jackson had a well-known history of using prescription medications, especially painkillers. Following his death, Cherilyn Lee, a registered nurse who had worked for Jackson, told the AP she repeatedly rejected his demands for the drug Diprivan, also known as Propofol. It's a potent anesthetic used in operating rooms and it would be highly unusual to have it in a private home.

Excuse me, but a person doesn't overuse prescription medications, especially painkillers unless doctors aid and abet them.

Uri Geller, a former Jackson confidant, said he tried to keep Jackson from abusing painkillers and other prescription drugs, but others in the singer's circle kept him supplied.

Obviously, those within Jackson's circle OVER SUPPLIED him.

"When Michael asked for something, he got it," Geller said in a telephone interview from his suburban London home.

Please elaborate Geller. How do you know that when Jackson asked for a drug he got it? You must know who prescribed the drugs if you know Jackson got them when he asked for them. Was it you, among others? Geez. Geller and Chopra in Jackson's life. Are we sure they weren't supplying him?

Jackson had multiple doctors and many others like Geller who came in and out of his life. Which people are being interviewed by police is unclear because the LAPD has said virtually nothing about the probe.

"I am not going to make any comments on the investigation," Commander Patrick Gannon, the designated police spokesman on the Jackson case, said by e-mail Thursday.

Any evidence would be turned over to the district attorney's office, which has final say on criminal charges.

One of the key questions is why it took four days for police to issue a search warrant and remove medications from Jackson's home. In the meantime, several people, including Janet Jackson, removed unknown items from the home.

Although the home wasn't declared a crime scene, police did tow Murray's car the evening of the death to look for potential evidence.

Vernon J. Geberth, former commanding officer of the Bronx Homicide Task force in New York, said police should have known they were dealing with an extraordinary situation.

"If it's a high-profile person, you have to do more than you would do ordinarily," he said.

Still, Geberth, who now acts as a private forensic consultant, said he believes the LAPD acted appropriately.

"Having a doctor present altered the equation. It was not a homicide scene. It was an emergency medical scene," he said.

Rosenbluth said if the case ends up as a criminal prosecution, any defense attorney would seize on the LAPD's failure to immediately seal Jackson's home.

"If you can get even one juror think, I don't know, maybe somebody fiddled with the medicine before the police came in and collected it, that's reasonable doubt," she said. "All that the defense attorney needs is one juror."

BlueAngel
07-02-2009, 09:29 PM
Sorry, but this video doesn't show a vigorous Jackson before his death.

Video shows vigorous Jackson before death - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090702/ennew_afp/entertainmentusmusicjacksonvideo)

2 hrs 17 mins ago

LOS ANGELES (AFP) – A video released Thursday showed Michael Jackson vigorously practicing a song-and-dance routine days before his death, supporting accounts he had been in good health.

In footage obtained by AFP, the pop legend performed at the Staples Center in Los Angeles on June 23, two days before he died, as he prepared for a 50-date set in London starting in July.

Jackson, while thin, is seen dancing with energy in a tightly choreographed sequence with a group of performers. Jackson sings on a headset and at one point pushes back his jacket to reveal his red shirt underneath.

In the footage, Jackson switches sharply in styles in a medley of some of his hits. The video starts with Jackson dancing wildly in front of a rock 'n' roll guitarist before a pause for dramatic effect.

Jackson then shifts to a snippet of "Billie Jean," one of his greatest hits, before singing, "They Don't Care About Us," one of his most controversial tracks in which he brought in a hip-hop influence.

The set ends with a sample of a car horn. The stage then fades to black as an outside voice instructs, "Hold for applause."

Associates of Jackson have described the 50-year-old pop star as being in good form, including at another rehearsal just hours before his death.

Jackson collapsed and died on June 25 at his rented Los Angeles mansion. Speculation has focused on whether Jackson was taking painkillers or other medication.

Jackson's voice coach Dorian Holley said Jackson was in an upbeat mood in the days before his death, joking around with his wardrobe and makeup staff.

"My friends call and ask, 'Was Michael sick? Was he weak? Was he ill?' It's the absolute opposite of that," Holley told CNN.

"He was very energetic, he was happy. He was even more playful than he normally was at rehearsal," he said.

Holley said Jackson, 50, did not show his age.

"I'm sure that he was in pain after some rehearsals. But I got to tell you something -- the guys and girls dancing with him were all in their 20s," he said.

"When Michael was on stage with them, there was only one person that you could watch and that was Michael Jackson," he said.

A similar account came from Kevin Mazur, who was attending the rehearsal sessions as a photographer.

"He was like an expectant father pacing up and down the stage," Mazur told Britain's Sun tabloid.

"He was just so focused. Between songs, he burst into laughter and joked around with his dancers and the director. I have never seen him so happy," Mazur said.

Jackson had planned a series of concerts at London's O2 Arena starting on July 13, part of a comeback for the King of Pop whose personal and financial life had sharply deteriorated in the past decade.

Concert promoters AEG Live, who released the video, are offering full ticket refunds for the concerts.

British media reports said about 50 million pounds (59 million euros, 83 million dollars) has been spent on 750,000 tickets.

BlueAngel
07-02-2009, 09:44 PM
Michael Jackson did not reside in reality.

Why?

Because he was a mind control victim.

Very sad, indeed.

The "thugs" in the music industry used Michael Jackson from a very tender age and his "genuis" talent for their financial gain and then they spit him out when he was no longer useful to them.

Rest in peace, Michael.

You are now in God's hands and those hands, Michael, are much better than the filty, disgusting hands who controlled you.

Neverland just a shell without Jackson - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090703/ap_en_mu/us_michael_jackson_neverland)

Neverland just a shell without Jackson

AP – By JOHN ROGERS, Associated Press Writer – 2 hrs 22 mins ago

LOS OLIVOS, California – The gates to Michael Jackson's fabled Neverland Ranch swung open Thursday to reveal a shell of the fantasyland the boy-man had created in his heyday.

Gone was the zoo with its elephants, tigers and giraffe. The exotic snakes had long since slithered away, and the amusement park rides had been dismantled.

The five-bedroom house, with its gigantic kitchen and media room where Jackson liked to screen his beloved Disney films, were nearly empty. His big-screen TV was gone, only a mounting bracket remained.

There were some traces of the playland that the place had been in its glory days, when Jackson opened it to neighborhood children by the thousands and presided over the ensuing parties as the lord of the manor.

In its empty game room, for example, the door knobs shaped like miniature basketballs, baseballs and soccer balls remained. In a closet in the pool house, sandwiched between the pool and the tennis court, was a bucket of tennis balls.

And on a hill overlooking the house stood the fabled train station — a near replica of the one at Disneyland with its huge floral clock. It was still a stunning site from Jackson's front yard, although the railroad tracks behind were overgrown with weeds.

In the station lobby was a snack bar, and above that, accessible by only the smallest of spiral staircases, was a crow's nest of sorts with a fireplace. There, presumably, Jackson must have stood and watched his trains fill up with children taking trips around his 2,500-acre (1,000-hectare) estate.

The ranch was also the site where authorities alleged Jackson had molested a boy. He was acquitted in 2005 and eventually left Neverland.

Visitors wandered through the first-floor, back bedroom where authorities said the incident occurred.

Jackson once acknowledged in a television interview that he sometimes let children sleep with him in his bed in what he called innocent sleepovers.

Colony Capital LLC, the Los Angeles firm that established a joint venture with Jackson to rescue Neverland from foreclosure last year, opened the home to scores of journalists Thursday after a nonstop barrage of requests for access after Jackson died.

Colony has declined to say what it plans to do with the house, and none of the handful of officials present would speak on the record. No members of the Jackson family were seen on the premises.

Visitors were allowed to roam freely for the most part, as more than a dozen gardeners and maintenance workers went about their duties.

The two-story house has a number of labrythine-like hallways and stairways. A large copper bathtub sits in the middle of a hallway.

Across from the front door of the main home was the guest house where Jackson's friend Elizabeth Taylor stayed when she married Larry Fortensky in 1991, at a Neverland wedding briefly interrupted by a skydiving gate-crasher.

Off-limits Thursday was the estate's now-empty amusement park, where Jackson and others once rode bumper cars, a merry-go-round and a Ferris wheel.

"My kids used to go out there and they had a good old time," Los Olivos resident Frank Palmer said earlier this week. "He was just a big kid himself, was what they told me. Michael loved it when they'd crash the go-carts."

Among other things, Jackson left behind dozens of metal sculptures of children in various states of play. They were scattered across the estate, some showing children in modern dress, others looking more like kids who stepped out of a Charles Dickens novel.

One was a kid climbing on monkey bars, another boy helped a girl reach a tree branch.

A slightly larger sculpture had the name Michael Jackson written beneath it. From a distance, it looked nothing like him.

BlueAngel
07-02-2009, 09:59 PM
Thank GOD the DEA is involved.

They investigated Anna Nicole and Ledger's overdose.

Did they investigate Anna Nicole son's overdose, too?

NOT ONE DOCTOR was named or charged in any of the above overdose deaths so I suppose we can expect the same with the DEA's investigation of Michael Jackson.

BlueAngel
07-02-2009, 10:45 PM
Let's see.

Michael Jackson was treated for dehydration.

Water deprviation.

He couldn't sleep.

Sleep deprivation.

He was underweight.

Food deprivation.

Sleep, water, food deprivation.

Three forms of torture.

Smooth Criminal
07-03-2009, 04:25 PM
No one can tell something more about the 3 person near Michael,in the last minutes of his life...
But the most relevant thing concerning about if he could have invested by a cars incident or something similar?
The autopsy let find Michael body rubbing coming after he fall down?
And the last thing,someone know the name of Michael's doctor in those last time, I know for sure he's Russian, but I'm looking for his name.Maybe it can help...

http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/images/clubconspiracy/buttons/quote.gif (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=57383)

BlueAngel
07-03-2009, 08:03 PM
Michael Jackson News
Overview|Albums|Tracks|Videos|Photos|Concerts
Powerful sedative found in Michael Jackson's home
AP, Jul 3, 2009 1:22 pm PDT

The powerful sedative Diprivan was found in Michael Jackson's home, a law enforcement official said Friday.

Diprivan is an anesthetic widely used in operating rooms to induce unconsciousness. Also known as Propofol, it's administered intravenously and is very unusual to have in a private home..

The law enforcement official spoke on condition of anonymity because the person was not authorized to speak about the matter..

Also Thursday, information was released about registering for free tickets for Jackson's public memorial, which is set for Tuesday at the Staples Center in Los Angeles..

Authorities are investigating allegations that the 50-year-old Jackson had been consuming painkillers, sedatives and antidepressants. Any criminal charges would depend on whether Jackson had been overly prescribed medications, given drugs inappropriate for his needs, or if doctors knowingly prescribed Jackson medications under an assumed name..

As Jackson recently prepared for a massive series of comeback concerts, he was so distraught over persistent insomnia that he pleaded for Diprivan, according to Cherilyn Lee, a registered nurse who was working with the singer..

Lee said she repeatedly rejected his demands because the drug was unsafe..

It's still not known what caused Jackson's death at age 50. The pop star went into cardiac arrest in his bedroom and his personal physician, Dr. Conrad Murray, performed CPR while an ambulance was called, according to Murray's lawyers. Murray has spoken to police and authorities say he is not a suspect..

An autopsy was conducted but results are not expected for several weeks. The Jackson family had a second autopsy performed and those results also are pending..

Free tickets to Jackson's memorial service can be obtained by registering at Staplescenter.com. There will be 11,000 tickets for seats inside Staples Center and 6,500 for seats in the adjacent Nokia Theatre, where fans can watch a simulcast. There also will be a free worldwide video feed..

After 6 p.m. Saturday, 8,750 names will be randomly selected to receive two tickets each. Notifications will go out on Sunday. Those selected can obtain their tickets via Ticketmaster on Monday..

No details of the memorial service itself have been released..

Michael Jackson News - Yahoo! Music (http://new.music.yahoo.com/michael-jackson/news/powerful-sedative-found-in-michael-jacksons-home--61990644)

BlueAngel
07-03-2009, 09:32 PM
Deepak Chopra indicated that Michael Jackson self-mutilated.

Another sign of a mind control victim.

BlueAngel
07-03-2009, 09:33 PM
Like I said.

Mind Control within the Music Industry.

BlueAngel
07-03-2009, 09:41 PM
I'm certain Michael Jackson was in dire need of a sedative that produces unconsciousness; isn't sold in pharmacies and NEVER found in a private homes.

BlueAngel
07-03-2009, 11:08 PM
Bump!

Butterfly21
07-04-2009, 11:32 AM
Michael Jackson Reportedly Will Be Buried in Muslim Traditions (http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00025411.html)

BlueAngel
07-04-2009, 09:24 PM
Uri Geller said he did something unethical with Michael Jackson. Didn't catch what he was alluding to, but, quite possibly, he placed Jackson under HYPNOSIS and inquired as to whether or not he had inappropriate contact with the children who accused him of sexual abuse.

Jackson replied, "no."

Okay.

Well, that settles it.

Uri Geller was able to get to the truth.

Geller also asked Jackson if he knew that it was inappropriate for an adult to sleep with young children in the same bed and Jackson's answer convinced Geller that it was all innocent.

Again.

Geller gets to the truth.

Sorry, but the majority of the population understands that it is inappropriate to sleep with young children in the same bed and, when someone does this and doesn't understand that it is wrong, one can conclude that there may be other inappropriate actions that they engage in of which they are unaware is unacceptable.

Geller asked Jackson why he made a financial payment to settle the accusations, if he was innocent.

Jackson replied because he couldn't take it anymore.

On January 1, 1994, Jackson settled with the Chandler family and their legal team out of court, in a civil lawsuit for $22 million. After the settlement, Jordan Chandler stopped co-operating with police regarding criminal proceedings. Jackson was never charged, and the state closed its criminal investigation, citing lack of evidence.

BlueAngel
07-04-2009, 09:29 PM
Excerpt from Wikipedia:

Michael Jackson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jackson)

In a 2003 Granada Television documentary titled Living with Michael Jackson, the singer was seen holding hands and discussing sleeping arrangements with Gavin Arvizo, who would later accuse him of child sexual abuse.[121] In the same documentary Jackson was observed spending large amounts of money in an apparently frivolous manner, including as much as $6 million in a single store.[68] Shortly after the documentary aired, Jackson was charged with seven counts of child sexual abuse and two counts of administering an intoxicating agent in order to commit that felony. All charges involved the same boy, Gavin Arvizo, who was under 14 at the time of the alleged crimes.
[121]

Jackson denied the sexual abuse allegations, saying that the sleepovers were in no way sexual in nature. Jackson's friend Elizabeth Taylor defended him on Larry King Live, saying that she had been there when they "were in the bed, watching television. There was nothing abnormal about it. There was no touchy-feely going on. We laughed like children and we watched a lot of Walt Disney. There was nothing odd about it."[122] During the investigation, Jackson's profile was examined by mental health professional Dr. Stan Katz; the doctor spent several hours with the accuser too. The assessment made by Katz was that Jackson had become a regressed 10-year-old and did not fit the profile of a pedophile.[123]

The People v. Jackson trial (2005) began in Santa Maria, California, two years after Jackson was originally charged. During this period the singer became dependent on morphine and Demerol, a dependency which he subsequently overcame. He also suffered from stress-related illnesses and severe weight loss, that would alter his appearance. The trial lasted five months, until the end of May 2005, he was acquitted on all counts.[124][125][126] Jackson then relocated to the Persian Gulf island of Bahrain as a guest of Sheikh Abdullah.[127]

BlueAngel
07-04-2009, 09:32 PM
Excerpt from Wikipedia:

Michael Jackson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jackson)

"Jackson gave a 90-minute interview with Oprah Winfrey in February 1993, his first television interview since 1979. He grimaced when speaking of his childhood abuse at the hands of his father; he believed he had missed out on much of his childhood years, admitting that he often cried from loneliness. He denied previous tabloid rumors that he bought the bones of the Elephant Man or slept in a hyperbaric oxygen chamber. The entertainer went on to dispel suggestions that he bleached his skin, stating for the first time that he had vitiligo. The interview was watched by an American audience of 90 million, becoming the fourth most-viewed non-sport program in U.S. history. It also increased awareness of vitiligo, a relatively unknown condition before then. Dangerous re-entered the album chart in the top 10, more than a year after its original release."[11][12][13]

BlueAngel
07-04-2009, 09:37 PM
Excerpt:

Jackson denied the sexual abuse allegations, saying that the sleepovers were in no way sexual in nature. Jackson's friend Elizabeth Taylor defended him on Larry King Live, saying that she had been there when they "were in the bed, watching television. There was nothing abnormal about it. There was no touchy-feely going on. We laughed like children and we watched a lot of Walt Disney. There was nothing odd about it."[122] During the investigation, Jackson's profile was examined by mental health professional Dr. Stan Katz; the doctor spent several hours with the accuser too. The assessment made by Katz was that Jackson had become a regressed 10-year-old and did not fit the profile of a pedophile.[123]

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Sorry, but if Jackson had become a regressed ten year old that should send up a warning flag that something was seriously wrong with him and that just might include pedophilia.

But, remember.

Mind controllers have the tools to alter their victims into child-like state's of mind.

This, to satisfy their own sexually deviant desires.

BlueAngel
07-04-2009, 09:45 PM
Excerpt from Wikipedia:

An official investigation began, with Jordan Chandler's mother adamant that there was no wrongdoing on Jackson's part. Neverland Ranch was searched; multiple children and family members denied that he was a pedophile.[87] Jackson's image took a further turn for the worse when his older sister La Toya Jackson accused him of being a pedophile, a statement she later retracted.[88] Jackson agreed to a 25-minute strip search, conducted at his ranch. The search was required to see if a description provided by Jordan Chandler was accurate. Doctors concluded that there were some strong similarities, but it was not a definitive match.[88] Jackson made an emotional public statement on the events; he proclaimed his innocence, criticized what he perceived as biased media coverage and told of his strip search.[84]

BlueAngel
07-04-2009, 10:26 PM
Michael Jackson had health insurance coverage in many states and several countries.

Another doctor in his life:

AP Interview: Jackson adviser Tohme breaks silence - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090704/ap_on_en_mu/us_jackson_tohme)

AP Interview: Jackson adviser Tohme breaks silence

By LINDA DEUTSCH, AP Special Correspondent Linda Deutsch

Sat Jul 4, 4:45 pm ET

What silence?

LOS ANGELES – Dr. Tohme Tohme vividly remembers the first time he met with Michael Jackson to discuss the pop star's finances. It's not the money talk that stays with him now, but his enchantment at entering Jackson's world of love.

"I saw how kind he was and what a wonderful human being," Tohme said in an interview. "I saw him with his children and I had never seen a better father. ... I decided to do what I could to help him."

Oh, please. Michael Jackson is dead. No need to portray him as the best father who ever lived. According to a psychiatrist who interviewed him during the sexual child abuse allegations in 2003, Jackson had regressed to a 10 year old.

Tohme, a financier with a murky past, had been contacted by Jackson's brother, Jermaine, who asked if Tohme could help to save Jackson's beloved Neverland ranch from foreclosure. Tohme said he traveled with Jermaine to Las Vegas, where Jackson was living after years of wandering the world following his acquittal on child molestation charges.

Tohme has a murky past. Obviously, we should believe everything a man with a murky past says. Since the interviewer knows that Tohme has a murky past, kindly inform us as to the murkiness.

They bonded instantly. "For the last year and a half I was the closest person to Michael Jackson," Tohme said. He contacted Tom Barrack, the chairman of Colony Capital and a close personal friend. "He was hesitant to get involved, but I said, 'Let's go see Michael,'" Tohme recalled.

He and Jackson bonded instantly. How sweet!

After the meeting he said Barrack, who was impressed with Jackson's "intelligence and focus," bought the note for Neverland. But that was just the beginning of a business relationship that culminated in the London concerts that were to have begun next week.

Wearing a suit with no tie, Tohme, Jackson's last business manager and spokesperson, granted his first interview Friday to The Associated Press in the office of a lawyer friend.

This man was Jackson's business manager and he needed to conduct this interveiw in the office of a lawyer friend.

Tohme, listed in public records as being in his late 50s, has been portrayed as something of a mystery man in the Jackson brain trust.

"I hate the words 'mystery man,'" he said. "I'm a private man. A lot of people like the media and I don't. I respect the privacy of other people but lately nobody respects mine."

As he spoke, his cell phone rang constantly. He took only a few calls, one of them from Jesse Jackson.

He has been stung by allegations that he was involved with the Nation of Islam, which he said was untrue.

"I have nothing against anybody," he said, "But I don't know anyone from the Nation of Islam. When I took over Michael Jackson's affairs, I fired some people from the Nation of Islam."

It is known that he is of Lebanese descent. His double name — pronounced toh-MAY' — is not uncommon in the Middle East. But he declined to go into detail about his own life and career other than to say he is a U.S. citizen who was raised in Los Angeles and, "I'm a self-made man. I'm in the world of finance."

"I don't want to talk about me," he said. "I'm a nobody. I'm not important. I want to talk about Michael Jackson."

He's a nobody and a mystery man with a murky past who took over Jackson's affairs, but doesn't want to talk about himself. Why not? Is it because you are a mystery man with a murky past who took over Jackson's affairs and fenced people out?

At times he appeared on the verge of tears as he discussed Jackson's death, saying, "It's unbelievable ... I'm devastated ... God bless his soul."

He said that by talking about Jackson, he was fulfilling one of the star's wishes.

"He always said to me, 'I want people to really know who I am after I'm gone.'"

Sorry, but you really haven't enlightened us as to whom Jackson really is in this interveiw.

He would only briefly discuss Jackson's finances. During his time with the superstar, Tohme said, he was paid nothing but was able to negotiate lucrative business deals that would secure the future of Jackson's children. He followed a long line of business managers and spokespeople who had come and gone from Jackson over the years. In the final year, he said he played a pivotal role in turning things around.

You were paid nothing? I find that hard to believe. So, how do you survive financially? Self-made millionare? Just helping Jackson for free to secure the future of his children. Did you know that their future would very soon not include their father?

His negotiations for Jackson included a Broadway show with the Nederlander organization, an animated TV show based on "Thriller," a line of clothing including "moonwalk shoes," and more. He said he was working with others to renegotiate the terms of Jackson's main assets, his share of the Sony-ATV Music Publishing Catalog — which includes music by the Beatles — and the catalog of Mijac, the company that controls Michael Jackson's own music.

"I am not in the music business. I'm a stranger to this business," Tohme said, noting that he had stiff competition from others who wanted to take over Jackson's finances.

Obviously, you were in the music business. Who was your stiff competition?

"I built a fence around Michael to keep people out," he said, acknowledging that he cut costs by firing many members of the Jackson staff, including security guards. And he twice fired the children's nanny, Grace Rawaramba, on Jackson's orders.

Why did you build a fence around Jackson? Seems he was in dire need of people other than doctors in his life and, apparently, his children's Nanny was concerned about him. Since you fired people without Jackson's consent and fenced people out, are you sure Jackson asked you to fire his Nanny? Maybe that fence wasn't a good idea. Seems to me that some of the people who were left inside the fence could have contributed to Jackson's death and when one wants to keep other people away from someone that kind of sends out a warning flag that they're isolating the person whom they are building the fence around. Don't fence me in!!!

"I was trying to do what we could to maximize his profits and minimize spending. I wanted to find a way to reel in all the loans he had.

"We had an agreement," Tohme continued. "I would never interfere with his creative decisions and he wouldn't interfere with my business decisions."

Tohme said he abandoned everything he was doing in his own life to concentrate his time and effort on Jackson's affairs. He points with pride to the crown jewel of his and the new Jackson team's efforts: the contract with AEG for concerts at the 02 arena in London.

You abandoned your life for Michael Jackson's life? What a saint.

He said Jackson was looking forward to the concerts because he wanted his children to see him perform.

Like others before him, Tohme was caught up in the excitement of Jackson's world. He traveled with him to London, where they saw the play "Oliver" and were mobbed by fans. "I had never seen fans who loved anyone so much and he loved them just as much," Tohme said.

Tohme uses the title "Dr." and apparently has a medical degree, though there is no record that he has practiced in the United States. He said he was convinced that Jackson was in perfect health the last time he saw him, two days before he died. He said the star kept himself and his children on a healthy diet, never ate red meat, didn't drink and, as far as he knew, never took drugs.

If you were convinced Jackson was in perfect health, you shouldn't carry the title of doctor.

He said he is disappointed that Jackson won't be buried at Neverland but hopes that may change: "He deserves to be buried in the wonderful world he created."

In Jackson's final months, Tohme said they talked about his wish to create "a special place ten times bigger than Graceland" where fans could come to see Jackson's memorabilia and awards. Jackson even talked about creating a veritable city for children.

"He wanted to be remembered as a great human being and he wanted to create as many happy places for the children of the world as he could," said Tohme.

The day Jackson died, as Tohme rushed to the hospital unsure if his friend was alive or dead, he said he remembered precious moments: Jackson bringing his children to Tohme's house for Thanksgiving dinner; Jackson and his children singing "Happy Birthday" to Tohme on the phone; the last time he saw Jackson at Staples Center, rehearsing for his big comeback.

And he remembered Jackson's last words to him that day: "I love you."

Yes. Michael loved you. Did you love him back?

BlueAngel
07-04-2009, 10:52 PM
Why is the media reporting that Michael Jackson requested his personal physician, Dr. Conrad Murray, to spend the night with him at his rented home on the day of his death when it was reported previously that Dr. Conrad Murray was to be paid $150,000.000/$300,000.00 per month to reside with Jackson as his personal physician?

And, why does Dr. Conrad Murray state that he is owed $600,000.00 for two months of service, when the media is reporting that he resided with Jackson for 11 days before his death?

If Murray didn't reside with Jackson in his rented home, what was his physical address?

Why is it that Jackson needed a personal physician to reside with him?

Why is it that Jackson needed a personal physician, period.

His manager states that he was in perfect health, and since he built a fence around Jackson to keep people out, he certainly knew of the people whom he kept in.

I understand that the 911 caller was a Jackson staff member and that 911 wasn't called for 20 minutes after Murray found Jackson unconscious because he didn't know the address of Jackson's home.

Unbelieveable!

It took 20 minutes for him to find someone on Jackson's staff who knew the address and could call 911 on a cell phone because there was no land line in Jackson's room.

Huh?

The doctor doesn't have a cell phone?

If Jackson wasn't in debt, why was he renting a house?

Smooth Criminal
07-05-2009, 05:27 PM
Why is the media reporting that Michael Jackson requested his personal physician, Dr. Conrad Murray, to spend the night with him at his rented home on the day of his death when it was reported previously that Dr. Conrad Murray was to be paid $150,000.000/$300,000.00 per month to reside with Jackson as his personal physician?

And, why does Dr. Conrad Murray state that he is owed $600,000.00 for two months of service, when the media is reporting that he resided with Jackson for 11 days before his death?

If Murray didn't reside with Jackson in his rented home, what was his physical address?

Why is it that Jackson needed a personal physician to reside with him?

Why is it that Jackson needed a personal physician, period.

His manager states that he was in perfect health, and since he built a fence around Jackson to keep people out, he certainly knew of the people whom he kept in.

I understand that the 911 caller was a Jackson staff member and that 911 wasn't called for 20 minutes after Murray found Jackson unconscious because he didn't know the address of Jackson's home.

Unbelieveable!

It took 20 minutes for him to find someone on Jackson's staff who knew the address and could call 911 on a cell phone because there was no land line in Jackson's room.

Huh?

The doctor doesn't have a cell phone?

If Jackson wasn't in debt, why was he renting a house?

The media always talk giving signs,so people belonging to different lodge can understand...

As you can see there was also an interview made to Mike by Diane Sawyer, a journalist that worked like press aider for the WHITE HOUSE during the NIXON administration and who helped Nixon with his memories...


The fact that Dr. Conrad Murray resided with Michael for just 11 days... 11 it mean DEATH,in mason signs-language, no a good number,at all!



The key points are doctors...something wrong with them for sure...It was too easy for them take Michael off, and Britain's The Sun obtained a copy of the report,talking about "unexplained bruises on his knees and shins and bruising to his back, indicating a recent fall"...


Com'on...everyone has one or two mobile, no excuse for that! 20 minutes time are enough for killing a person, but proof are needed...


I really won't believe this happen like I said before...

Otherwise someone is going to pay for this,absolutely!Some people can't decide on other life,because it can turns back with interest rate

BlueAngel
07-05-2009, 09:39 PM
The toxicology report(s) have been made public?

I must have missed these very important findings.

Chicago - Joe Jackson In Third Autopsy Claim - Contactmusic News (http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/article/joe-jackson-in-third-autopsy-claim_1108701)

CHICAGO - JOE JACKSON IN THIRD AUTOPSY CLAIM

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JOE JACKSON IN THIRD AUTOPSY CLAIM

Joe Jackson has reportedly risked the wrath of his family by demanding a third autopsy be conducted on son Michael Jackson's body and is attempting to take control of the late star's funeral.

Michel Jackson's father reportedly wants a third autopsy conducted on his son's body.

Joe Jackson - who earlier this week said he suspected "foul play" in the singer's death - is said to have infuriated his family by trying to take control of the singer's funeral and demanding a third post mortem examination after two sets of tests disproved his belief that the 'Thriller' star was poisoned.

A source said: "Jermaine, La Toya and his wife Katherine all told him he had no control over the clan any more."

However, Joe's daughters LaToya and Janet have reportedly splashed out for round-the-clock bodyguards for their dad - who had a turbulent relationship with Michael, who did not name him in what is believed to be his final will - after he received death threats.

The source added to Britain's News of the World newspaper: "There are some very, very crazy Michael fans out there who blame him for what happened."

This is not the first time Joe has angered his family since Michael died of a suspected cardiac arrest.

The late singer's siblings were astounded when Joe used the Black Entertainment Television (BET) Awards show to promote his new Ranch Records label rather than celebrate Michael's life.

The Chicago Sun Times newspaper reported: "Sources backstage Sunday night at the BET Awards tell me even Janet Jackson - and other Jackson family members - were 'really horrified' when they learned Michael Jackson's father, Joe Jackson, started plugging his new Ranch Records label as he walked the red carpet at the show, which was totally reworked to honour Michael's memory and legacy."

Joe's controversial comments came as he spoke with CNN presenter Dom Lemon about his late son.

When Dom asked how Michael's mother Katherine and siblings were coping, Joe said: "They are all doing fine. But I wanted to make this statement. This is a real good statement here! Marshall and me own a record label called Ranch Records..."

05 July 2009 10:08:09 AM

BlueAngel
07-05-2009, 09:49 PM
Joe Jackson is hosting a BOOT CAMP for aspiring young hip hop artists.

How old are these aspiring young hip hop artists and where is this BOOT CAMP located?

I find this unsettling.

Wikipedia does not include much information as to Joe Jackson's early life or his occupations other than to say he was a boxer, a musician and then a talent agent who created the Jackson 5.

Joseph Jackson sounds like a very distrubed person and his wife, Katherine, must be, as well, to have remained married to this abusive man.

Joseph Jackson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Jackson)

Joseph Jackson
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Born July 26, 1929 (1929-07-26) (age 79)
Fountain Hill, Arkansas U.S.
Occupation Boxer, Musician, Manager

Spouse(s)
Katherine Jackson

Children
Rebbie Jackson
Jackie Jackson
Tito Jackson
Jermaine Jackson
LaToya Jackson
Brandon Jackson (deceased)
Marlon Jackson
Michael Jackson (deceased)
Randy Jackson
Janet Jackson
Joh'Vonnie Jackson

Parents Samuel Jackson & Chrystal King

Joseph Bertram "Joe" Jackson (born July 26, 1929 in Fountain Hill, Arkansas[1], United States) is an American talent manager, former boxer and former musician best known as the father of American entertainers Michael Jackson and Janet Jackson, and the creator and manager of The Jackson 5, a Motown group comprising several of his children.

Biography

Early life

Joseph Jackson was born in Arkansas, the eldest of four to Samuel Jackson and Crystal Lee King.[2] His parents separated when he was 12. He moved with his father to Oakland, California, where he lived until after turning 18 when he moved to East Chicago, Indiana, to live near his mother. While there, he met his future wife Katherine Scruse. After a brief marriage to another woman and then an annulment, Joseph and Katherine began a courtship resulting in their November 5, 1949 wedding. Settling in Gary, Indiana, Joseph, a former boxer, worked full-time as a crane operator at Gary's U.S. Steel company, while Katherine tended to their children. In the mid-1950s, Joseph started a music career with his brother Luther, playing guitar in a band called The Falcons. The group split up a couple of years later after failing to get a recording deal. Joseph returned full time to his job at U.S. Steel.

Current work

Joseph is currently hosting a boot camp for aspiring hip-hop artists, both to move his career to the next stage and to change what he sees as distasteful about the genre. "Everybody is liking rap now. I'm going to have to clean it up a little bit, all that vulgar language out there. I'm going to have to keep that clean, with nice singing in it, and great music.

Controversies

Joseph's image as a father was tainted throughout the late 1980s through the mid 1990s in which the media reported stories told by some of his children that he was abusive towards them. When he managed his family, he ordered each of them to call him "Joseph", which led to several siblings being estranged from their father.

Michael Jackson claimed that from a young age he was physically and emotionally abused by his father, enduring incessant rehearsals, whippings and name-calling, but also admitting that his father's strict discipline played a large part in his success.[3][4] In one altercation—later recalled by Marlon Jackson—Joseph held Michael upside down by one leg and "pummeled him over and over again with his hand, hitting him on his back and buttocks."[5] Joseph would also trip up or push his male children into walls. One night while Michael was asleep, Joseph climbed into his room through the bedroom window. Wearing a fright mask, he entered the room screaming and shouting. Joseph said he wanted to teach his children not to leave the window open when they went to sleep. For years afterward, Michael suffered nightmares about being kidnapped from his bedroom.[5]

Michael first spoke openly about his childhood abuse in a 1993 interview with Oprah Winfrey. He said that during his childhood he often cried from loneliness and would sometimes get sick or start to vomit upon seeing his father.[6][7][8][9] In Michael's other high profile interview, Living with Michael Jackson (2003), the singer covered his face with his hand and began crying when talking about his childhood abuse.[5] Michael recalled that Joseph sat in a chair with a belt in his hand as Michael and his siblings rehearsed and that "if you didn't do it the right way, he would tear you up, really get you."[10]

In 2003, in an interview with Louis Theroux for a BBC TV documentary called Louis, Martin & Michael, Joseph admitted to using physical punishment on his children and also voiced his disapproval of homosexuality.[11] In the same documentary, Joseph took advantage of the opportunity to promote his record label's new artists, even though the intention was to talk about Michael in the interview.[12][13]

Following the June 25, 2009 death of his son, Michael, Joseph attended the BET Awards on June 28. The event was hastily reorganized as a tribute to Michael following his sudden passing. Joseph appeared at the event, speaking to several reporters about Michael's death.[14] He struggled with CNN reporter Don Lemon's questions about his family, first appearing cheerful, then mournful, then asking a family spokesperson to read a prepared statement. After the statement was read, Joseph talked about his new hip-hop recording project. This exchange led to accusations of insensitivity from the press.[15] In a press conference two days later, Joseph said he had honestly answered a question about what he had been doing, and mentioned his recording project again before going on to praise Michael's life and work.

Jackson is alleged to have fathered a child, Joh'Vonnie Jackson, with Cheryl Terrell.[16][17]

BlueAngel
07-05-2009, 09:54 PM
Michael Jackson possessed the three "key" ingredients that I have stated over and over again are what the CIA "talent scouts" prefer in a child whom they desire to incarcerate in a mind control program and exploit within the entertainment industry for their own gain.

Abused at home.

Gifted/talented.

Less fortunate.

BlueAngel
07-05-2009, 10:15 PM
Well, Michael, I never thought they could stoop so low, but, then again, I know that they can.

They are selling tickets for your funeral.

You're dead and they continue to exploit you.

How sick!

Just heard it will not be an open coffin.

Why not?

People are purchasing tickets so they can walk up to a closed casket?

Is this the brainstorm of Jackson's manager?

The man who worked for Jackson for free?

The man who built a fence around Jackson to keep people out?

Obvioulsy, the entertanment company who Jackson's manager employed for his upcomiing tour has to reimburse those perosns who purchased tickets for Jackson's scheduled shows.

I guess they need to make up their loss by selling TICKETS to Michael's closed casket funeral.

Pathetic!

BlueAngel
07-07-2009, 07:43 PM
Since Dr. Tohme built a fence around Michael to keep people out, he should know which doctors were kept inside the fence, besides himself.

What type of medicine does Dr. Tohme practice?

BlueAngel
07-07-2009, 07:49 PM
This article states that toxicology reports are several weeks away.

In another article I posted on this thread, it indicated that toxicology reports had been finalized.

Report: At Least Five Doctors Under Investigation In Michael Jackson Death - omg! news on Yahoo! (http://omg.yahoo.com/news/report-at-least-five-doctors-under-investigation-in-michael-jackson-death/24830;_ylt=AjSAt6YNstBWCyKpfgr3pFwdsLYF?nc)

Report: At Least Five Doctors Under Investigation In Michael Jackson Death

Access Hollywood - July 6, 2009 6:36 AM PDT

Access Hollywood

LOS ANGELES, Calif. -- Michael Jackson is set for a public memorial service open to thousands on Tuesday -- but in the meantime, authorities continue to investigate the King of Pop's death on June 25.

According to the Los Angeles Times, authorities are investigating at least five doctors who prescribed drugs to the singer. A source told the paper that "numerous bottles" of Diprivan, a powerful anesthetic agent typically administered in hospitals, were found in the star's Holmby Hills home following his death. The drug's side effects include possible heart and breathing problems -- Jackson was found unconscious and went into cardiac arrest before being declared dead, suggesting that the drug may have played a role in his untimely passing.

Results of toxicology tests done during Jackson's official autopsy are still several weeks away. A second, private autopsy has been reportedly done on the singer, but the results not disclosed.

Over 1.6 million fans have entered the lottery for tickets to Michael's public memorial at Staples Center in LA on Tuesday. An AEG spokesperson told NBC News on Sunday that 8,750 winning fans were be notified via e-mail by 6 PM PST on Sunday, contrary to reports that they wouldn't find out until Monday.

However, according to the Times, fans will have to wait until Tuesday to see what the Jackson family has planned.

"This is a memorial, not a show, and there will be no information about who will be a part of it before the event," Ken Sushine, the Jacksons' rep, told the paper on Saturday.

A number of stars have already paid their respects to the King of Pop. Madonna honored him with a performance and a Jackson look-a-like on Saturday night at London's O2 Arena, where Jackson himself was set to perform later this month before the news of his death, and Beyonce sang a song at her Atlanta, Ga., tour stop on July 1 with lyrics about the late singer not fading away. Last weekend's BET Awards also saw such artists as Ne-Yo and Jamie Foxx paying tribute to Jackson.

BlueAngel
07-07-2009, 09:40 PM
Kindly clarify.

I have now read that the tickets to the memorial were free.

Didn't they originally have a price tag?

BlueAngel
07-07-2009, 09:42 PM
I dunno.

Maybe it's just me.

But, did they really have to force Jackson's 11 year old child to speak at his memorial?

Obviously, she was NOT comfortable in doing so.

What was the point?

So she could verify that he was the best father ever?

He's dead, but they still felt it necessary to use her to attempt to verify his innocence.

It doesn't matter now.

Like I said.

He's dead.

Rest in peace, Michael.

They will not go unpunished.

Jackson memorial performers announced as LA braces - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090706/ap_on_en_mu/us_michael_jackson)

BlueAngel
07-07-2009, 09:51 PM
Clarification requested on the tickets for Jackson's memorial, please.

BlueAngel
07-07-2009, 11:18 PM
Is it me or are these people delusional?

Do you see Michael Jackon's face in this tree?

Yep.

There it is.

Michael Jackson's face in that tree.

OMG!

Yahoo! (http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=14373828&ch=4226726&src=news)

Mintwithahole.
07-08-2009, 10:05 AM
We wont have to wait too long before people start to say that Michael hoaxed his own death and is secretly holidaying somewhere in the Bermuda Triangle with Elvis Presley and Lord Lucan!
Michael Jackson was made for conspiracys wasn't he?

BlueAngel
07-08-2009, 11:39 AM
Yahoo! (http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=14386710&ch=4226715&src=news)

Yahoo! (http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=14386710&ch=4226715&src=news)

Butterfly21
07-08-2009, 08:34 PM
Excerpt:

Jackson denied the sexual abuse allegations, saying that the sleepovers were in no way sexual in nature. Jackson's friend Elizabeth Taylor defended him on Larry King Live, saying that she had been there when they "were in the bed, watching television. There was nothing abnormal about it. There was no touchy-feely going on. We laughed like children and we watched a lot of Walt Disney. There was nothing odd about it."[122] During the investigation, Jackson's profile was examined by mental health professional Dr. Stan Katz; the doctor spent several hours with the accuser too. The assessment made by Katz was that Jackson had become a regressed 10-year-old and did not fit the profile of a pedophile.[123]

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Sorry, but if Jackson had become a regressed ten year old that should send up a warning flag that something was seriously wrong with him and that just might include pedophilia.

But, remember.

Mind controllers have the tools to alter their victims into child-like state's of mind.

This, to satisfy their own sexually deviant desires.




Global Grind - JORDAN CHANDLER: MJ DID NOT MOLEST ME, I LIED! (http://globalgrind.com/content/778859/JORDAN-CHANDLER-MJ-DID-NOT-MOLEST-ME-I-LIED/)

And let me guess, you'll say this is a made up story...

rickwd7
07-09-2009, 10:02 PM
Just for now, let's set aside that THE FACT that Michael Jackson was
NEVER CONVICTED OF ANYTHING......

However, I'm sure that between

1. the year round touring since age 6,

2. almost daily rehearsals to perfect exceedingly complicated concert presentations,

3. months out of each year spent in the studio daily writing and producing hit albums,

4. his well-documented charitable travels all over the world for the last 20 years

5. The hundreds, if not thousands, of people watching his every move anytime he went into public
(even WITH the "disguises")

.....I'm SURE Michael Jackson had PLENTY of time to become a high-level Freemason and child-slaver
ON TOP OF ALL THAT. (Just for kicks as a hobby, you know, in his "spare time")

People who truly believe some "Michael Jackson mind control/freemason" theory are fucking idiots. No joke.

igwt
07-10-2009, 05:43 AM
Conspiracy Cafe had an interesting discussion 2 July and briefly mentioned the last video of MJ during rehearsal. Link to site.
ThatChannel Show Listings, Archives, and Podcasts (http://thatradio.podhoster.com/index.php?sid=1746)

BlueAngel
07-10-2009, 06:49 AM
Who said Michael Jackson was involved in mind control?

I SAID Michael Jackson was a mind control victim.

I SAID he and his Neverland Ranch were being used by the criminals who are involved in creating mind controlled slaves.

BlueAngel
07-10-2009, 07:39 AM
Conspiracy Cafe had an interesting discussion 2 July and briefly mentioned the last video of MJ during rehearsal. Link to site.
ThatChannel Show Listings, Archives, and Podcasts (http://thatradio.podhoster.com/index.php?sid=1746)

Mintwithahole said:

We wont have to wait too long before people start to say that Michael hoaxed his own death and is secretly holidaying somewhere in the Bermuda Triangle with Elvis Presley and Lord Lucan!
Michael Jackson was made for conspiracys wasn't he?

---------------------------------------------------------------

Guess you were right.

An excerpt from the link that IGWT provided:

"What happened years ago at the Neverland ranch? Was a body really found? Was it MJ?"

FYI, I would take IGWT's posts with a grain of salt.

Afterall, he believes that the Illuminati are controlled by another entity with DARK EYES, sporting a day old beard who can glide across the floor and he has seen them.

BlueAngel
07-10-2009, 07:56 AM
Week Ending July 5, 2009: All Michael, All The Time - Chart Watch (http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/chart_watch/35974/week-ending-july-5-2009-all-michael-all-the-time/)

Week Ending July 5, 2009: All Michael, All The Time

Posted Wed Jul 8, 2009 11:47am PDT by Paul Grein in Chart Watch

Michael Jackson has three of the five best-selling albums in the U.S. for the second week in a row. Number Ones sold 339,000 copies this week and would have held at #1 on The Billboard 200 if catalog albums were eligible to compete on that chart. (The 2003 compilation sold a little more than twice as many copies this week as NOW 31, the album that holds the #1 spot.) Thriller sold 187,000 copies and would have jumped from #3 to #2 if catalog albums were invited to the party. The Essential Michael Jackson sold 125,000 copies and would have dropped from #2 to #5. (Billboard excludes catalog albums from the big chart on the theory that new albums need the spotlight the chart provides more than past hits do.)

Jackson's catalog of solo albums sold 800,000 copies this week, up from 422,000 copies last week. (This was the first full week following Jackson's death on June 25. Last week's total reflected just four days of sales.) Billboard reports that 82% of the Jackson albums sold this week were CDs (vs. digital downloads). Last week, 43% of the Jackson albums sold were CDs. I think this shows that on a special album, people want the CD as a keepsake. (What a retro concept!)

Jackson's total song download sales this week, including hits with his brothers, stand at 2.2 million downloads, down just a little from 2.6 million last week. A total of 47 songs that feature Jackson are listed on the Hot Digital Songs chart. (This is down just a bit from last week's eye-popping total of 50.)

Number Ones racked up the biggest weekly sales total in Nielsen/SoundScan history for a catalog album (excluding Christmas albums). Jackson also held the old record, which he set in February 2008, when Thriller 25 sold 166,000 copies in its first week. Number Ones also posted the biggest one-week sales tally for an album by a deceased performer since the Notorious B.I.G.'s Duets: The Final Chapter debuted in December 2005 with first-week sales of 438,000.

Number Ones has sold 564,000 copies so far this year, which puts it at #18 on Nielsen/SoundScan's running list of the best-selling albums of 2009. If it keeps going like this, it could topple Taylor Swift's Fearless as the #1 album for the year-to-date. (Fearless has sold 1,352,000 copies since Jan. 1.) This will (in all likelihood) be only the third time in Nielsen/SoundScan history that an album by a deceased performer has ranked among the year's top 10. 2Pac's All Eyez On Me was the #6 album of 1996 (he died on Sept. 13 of that year). The Notorious B.I.G.'s Life After Death was the #6 album of 1997 (he died on March 9 of that year).

Number Ones holds at #1 on the Catalog Albums chart. (Catalog albums are albums that are more than 18 months old, have fallen below #100 on The Billboard 200 and don't have a current radio single.) Jackson owns the entire top 10 this week, counting a Jackson 5 album. The Essential Michael Jackson holds at #1 on the Digital Albums chart. The collection sold 53,000 digital copies this week.

This is the third time that Thriller has posted sales of 100,000 or more units in a week in the Nielsen/SoundScan era (which dates to 1991). As noted above, the album sold 166,000 copies when a 25th anniversary edition was released in February 2008. It sold 101,000 last week, in the aftermath of Jackson's death. Thriller is the only the second catalog album (again, excluding Christmas albums) to top the 100,000 sales mark more than once since 1992. It follows the Grease soundtrack, a 1978 blockbuster that came back strong in the mid-1990s. The John Travolta/Olivia Newton-John tune-fest topped the 100,000 sales mark twice in December 1996 and again in April 1998, when the movie was re-released theatrically.

Jackson has five songs in the top 10 on Hot Digital Songs this week: "Man In The Mirror" at #2, "Billie Jean" at #4, "Thriller" at #5, "The Way You Make Me Feel" at #7 and "Beat It" at #10. Later today, I'll post a Chart Watch Extra in which I count down Jackson's 40 most songs with the most cumulative paid downloads. The list shows which of Jackson's songs have best stood the test of time-and which haven't.

Pop Quiz: To get you in the mood, here's a good (but seriously tough) Jackson trivia question. What do these three songs have in common: "Rock With You," "Human Nature" and "Man In The Mirror." Answer below.

Jackson is selling around the world. In the U.K., The Essential Michael Jackson moves up to #1, dethroning Number Ones (which drops to #3). In Japan, King Of Pop vaults from #43 to #6.

In a Chart Watch Extra (here's the link), I told you that Michael Jackson has had 17 #1 hits on the Hot 100 (combining Jackson 5 and solo records). Let me add that he has also had five #2 hits. Twice, he peaked at #2 behind hits that went on to be Billboard's #1 single of the year. That was the fate of the J5's "Never Can Say Goodbye" (which got stuck behind Three Dog Night's "Joy To The World," the top hit of 1971) and his own "Rockin' Robin" (which ran up against Roberta Flack's "The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face," the top hit of 1972). The J5's "Mama's Pearl" peaked at #2 behind the Osmonds' "One Bad Apple," which was created in the mold of the early J5 hits. His other #2 hits were the J5's "Dancing Machine" and his duet with Paul McCartney, "The Girl Is Mine."

Quiz Answer: Those were the first "outside songs" (songs that Jackson didn't write) to be released as singles from his three most famous albums, Off The Wall, Thriller and Bad. (I told you it was tough!)

BlueAngel
07-10-2009, 08:02 AM
LAPD: Michael Jackson's drug history to be probed - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090710/ap_on_en_mu/us_michael_jackson_investigation)

LAPD: Michael Jackson's drug history to be probed

CBS 2 Chicago

1 hr 25 mins ago

LOS ANGELES – Detectives investigating the death of Michael Jackson are looking at his prescription drug history and trying to talk with his numerous former doctors, the Los Angeles police chief said.

Jackson's father, Joe Jackson, told ABC News in an interview that he believed "foul play" was involved in his son's death. But in the interview aired Friday on "Good Morning America," Jackson did not elaborate.

Los Angeles Police Chief William Bratton told CNN that police are waiting for the coroner's report before ruling out any possibilities in their "comprehensive" investigation into the sudden death of the 50-year-old pop star two weeks ago.

The coroner's report will determine the cause of death and hinges on time-consuming toxicology tests.

"Based on those we'll have an idea of what we're dealing with," Bratton said Thursday. "Are we dealing with homicide? Are we dealing with an accidental overdose? What are we dealing with?"

Bratton said detectives are gathering evidence, including items seized from Jackson's rented home and arranging interviews with his many physicians, but the police chief deferred to the coroner to determine the cause of death.

"The next move really is his," Bratton said. "We're not marking time waiting for his report."

The Drug Enforcement Administration and the state attorney general's office, which keeps a database of prescription drugs, are assisting investigators.

An attorney for Dr. Arnold Klein, one of Jackson's many physicians, told the Los Angeles Times that the dermatologist was subpoenaed for medical records, which he turned over to the county coroner's office.

Bratton refused to discuss details of the case.

Jackson, who died June 25, had a well-known history of using prescription medications, especially painkillers. Following his death, Cherilyn Lee, a registered nurse who had worked for Jackson, told The Associated Press she repeatedly rejected his demands for the potent anesthetic Diprivan, also known as Propofol.

Jackson had multiple doctors, friends and staff who came in and out of his life. Which people were being interviewed by police was unclear because the LAPD has said virtually nothing about the probe.

Joe Jackson said he didn't know anything about drugs his son was involved in.

"I don't even know the name of them," he said. "I do know that whatever he was taking was to make him rest because he had been working so hard."

Police towed a doctor's car from Jackson's home hours after he died and said later it could contain medication or other evidence. Coroner's officials also said Jackson was taking prescription medication but declined to elaborate.

Meanwhile, Joe Jackson told ABC that he and his wife, Katherine, should have custody of Michael's three children. "They'll grow up to be strong Jacksons," he said.

He said Michael's daughter, Paris, who spoke at the Tuesday memorial service, was taking the death hard and was crying whenever Michael's name is mentioned. He said that she might have a future in the entertainment business along with the youngest son, nicknamed Blanket, who "can really dance."

BlueAngel
07-12-2009, 12:47 PM
The following is one of my comments from this thread:

http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/f42/michael-jackson-dead-part-ongoing-surreptitious-8060-3.html

Normally, when THEY are involved in a criminal activity, conflicting information is purposely created around it so it is IMPOSSIBLE for the PUBLIC to know the truth, but rather so that THEY can investigate it, wrap it up and so be it!

Their hands are clean.

Michael Jackson would not have overdosed many years ago, because, perhaps, there weren't many people who knew of his drug abuse.

The prescription drug abuse scenario had to be in the making for many years so it could be blamed on HIM and not his doctors/controllers, etc.

JFK's assassination didn't become a conspiracy because it just happened that way.

They created the conspiracy complete with all the conflicting information, so they could implement the Warren Commission, come to a conclusion; wrap it up and come out with their hands clean.

As far as a MURDERING Michael Jackson to distract the public from a politician's infidelity, I highly doubt it.

What makes more sense is that Michael Jackson is more profitable for them dead than alive.

In addition, MJ was plagued with child abuse allegations.

This could go no further, because, if it did, he may have had potentially harmful information about THEM.

It it not uncommon that mind control victims are disposed of when they are no longer useful and/or become a threat.

BlueAngel
07-12-2009, 12:49 PM
Like I said in my post above:

CONFLICTING INFORMATION

Jackson, healthy or not? Depends on who's talking - Yahoo! News

Jackson, healthy or not? Depends on who's talking - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090712/ap_on_en_mu/us_michael_jackson_views)

AP – 1 hr 58 mins ago

LOS ANGELES – In his final days, Michael Jackson was robust and active. Or dangerously thin and frail. Begging for access to powerful prescription drugs. Or showing no signs of ever having used them.

It depends on who's talking.

A dizzying collection of puzzle pieces about Jackson's health and habits has come to light since his death on June 25. With as much as a month before a toxicology report determines the cause, more are sure to emerge.

Each is likely to fuel further speculation. None is sure to produce a satisfying conclusion.

Some who knew him even seem to contradict themselves.

Here's what's known so far:

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• During his final rehearsal at the Staples Center, Jackson was captured on video doing his signature moonwalk and dance spins. Randy Phillips, CEO of concert promoter AEG Live, told CNN he was "a healthy, vibrant human being."

• Phillips later told ABC concert organizers feared that Jackson was losing weight and showing signs of wear and tear. He said he hired a staffer whose purpose was to remind Jackson to eat.

• Dr. Arnold Klein, Jackson's dermatologist, who said he last saw Jackson less than a week before he died, told CNN's Larry King that the singer was in "very good physical condition," in "a very good mood," and "was very happy."

• Klein also told CNN that he had given Jackson the painkiller Demerol but warned him about using the powerful sedative Diprivan. He also confirmed that Jackson was a former drug addict who went to rehab in England.

• "The Incredible Hulk" star Lou Ferrigno, who was helping Jackson prepare for a planned series of London concerts, told The Associated Press that he never saw Jackson take drugs, act aloof or speedy, and the singer wasn't frail when he last saw him at the end of May. "I've never seen him look better," he said.

• Two of Jackson's former confidants, medium Uri Geller and ex-bodyguard Matt Fiddes, said they tried in vain to keep the pop superstar from abusing prescription drugs. Geller said he suffered a terrible falling-out with Jackson over the issue, but not before he had to "shout at Michael, to scream at Michael" in an effort to confiscate the singer's stocks of medication during his travels in England.

• The drug Diprivan, an anesthetic widely used in operating rooms to induce unconsciousness, was found in Jackson's residence, a law enforcement official told the AP. Also known as Propofol, the drug is given intravenously and is very unusual to have in a private home.

• Cherilyn Lee, a registered nurse, told the AP she repeatedly rejected his demands for Diprivan. But a frantic phone call she received from Jackson four days before his death made her fear that he somehow obtained Diprivan or another drug to induce sleep.

• Akon, the Senegalese R&B singer and producer with whom Jackson recently recorded songs, told Billboard.com that "Michael is just one of the healthiest people that I know. He was pressuring me to stay healthy, like, 'Akon, eat right. What are you doing out there on the road? Are you eating? Are you exercising? Are you drinking a lot of water?'"

• Klein said Jackson had been suffering from lupus — a chronic disease where the immune system attacks the body's own tissue — and a skin disorder known as vitiligo.

• Jackson's personal physician, Dr. Conrad Murray, administered CPR on Jackson's bed, rather than a hard surface, "with his hand behind his back to provide the necessary support" because the singer was so frail, the doctor's attorney, Edward Chernoff, said.

• Chernoff also told the AP that Murray never gave or prescribed Jackson the painkillers Demerol or OxyContin, and said the doctor didn't give the pop star any drugs that contributed to his death.

• Among other things, Murray's lawyers have acknowledged it took up to 30 minutes for paramedics to be summoned to Jackson's home after he was found unresponsive.

• Jackson's family requested a private autopsy in part because of questions about Murray's role, the Rev. Jesse Jackson has said.

• Kevin Mazur, a photographer documenting the Staples Center rehearsals for a tour book, told the AP that Jackson looked in perfect health. "He was very upbeat, very happy, having a good time with the dancers," Mazur said.

• Spiritual teacher Dr. Deepak Chopra told the AP he had been concerned since 2005 that Jackson was abusing painkillers and spoke to the pop star about suspected drug use as recently as six months ago. Chopra said Jackson, a longtime friend, personally asked him for painkillers in 2005; Chopra said he refused.

• Los Angeles police chief William Bratton said detectives are looking at his prescription drug history and trying to talk with his numerous former doctors. He also says police are waiting for the coroner's report before ruling out any possibilities in their "comprehensive and far-reaching" probe, which includes the Drug Enforcement Administration and the state attorney general's office.

___

Associated Press writer Michael R. Blood contributed to this report.

rickwd7
07-12-2009, 08:20 PM
let's set aside that THE FACT that Michael Jackson was
NEVER CONVICTED OF ANYTHING......

However, I'm sure that between

1. the year round touring since age 6,

2. almost daily rehearsals to perfect exceedingly complicated concert presentations,

3. months out of each year spent in the studio daily writing and producing hit albums,

4. his well-documented charitable travels all over the world for the last 20 years

5. The hundreds, if not thousands, of people watching his every move anytime he went into public
(even WITH the "disguises")

.....I'm SURE Michael Jackson had PLENTY of time to become a high-level Freemason and child-slaver
ON TOP OF ALL THAT. (Just for kicks as a hobby, you know, in his "spare time")

People who truly believe some "Michael Jackson mind control/freemason" theory are fucking idiots. No joke.

rickwd7
07-12-2009, 08:21 PM
let's set aside that THE FACT that Michael Jackson was
NEVER CONVICTED OF ANYTHING......

However, I'm sure that between

1. the year round touring since age 6,

2. almost daily rehearsals to perfect exceedingly complicated concert presentations,

3. months out of each year spent in the studio daily writing and producing hit albums,

4. his well-documented charitable travels all over the world for the last 20 years

5. The hundreds, if not thousands, of people watching his every move anytime he went into public
(even WITH the "disguises")

.....I'm SURE Michael Jackson had PLENTY of time to become a high-level Freemason and child-slaver
ON TOP OF ALL THAT. (Just for kicks as a hobby, you know, in his "spare time")

People who truly believe some "Michael Jackson mind control/freemason" theory are fucking idiots. No joke.

rickwd7
07-12-2009, 08:21 PM
let's set aside that THE FACT that Michael Jackson was
NEVER CONVICTED OF ANYTHING......

However, I'm sure that between

1. the year round touring since age 6,

2. almost daily rehearsals to perfect exceedingly complicated concert presentations,

3. months out of each year spent in the studio daily writing and producing hit albums,

4. his well-documented charitable travels all over the world for the last 20 years

5. The hundreds, if not thousands, of people watching his every move anytime he went into public
(even WITH the "disguises")

.....I'm SURE Michael Jackson had PLENTY of time to become a high-level Freemason and child-slaver
ON TOP OF ALL THAT. (Just for kicks as a hobby, you know, in his "spare time")

People who truly believe some "Michael Jackson mind control/freemason" theory are fucking idiots. No joke.

BlueAngel
07-12-2009, 08:22 PM
Who said Michael Jackson was involved in mind control?

I SAID Michael Jackson was a mind control victim.

Whether he was involved in mind control or not, I wouldn't know.

I SAID that MJ and his Neverland Ranch were used by the criminals who are involved in creating; handling and controlling mind controlled slaves.

Everyone is entitled to their opinon, including you and I'm not joking.

:)

rickwd7
07-12-2009, 08:24 PM
let's set aside that THE FACT that Michael Jackson was
NEVER CONVICTED OF ANYTHING......

However, I'm sure that between

1. the year round touring since age 6,

2. almost daily rehearsals to perfect exceedingly complicated concert presentations,

3. months out of each year spent in the studio daily writing and producing hit albums,

4. his well-documented charitable travels all over the world for the last 20 years

5. The hundreds, if not thousands, of people watching his every move anytime he went into public
(even WITH the "disguises")

.....I'm SURE Michael Jackson had PLENTY of time to become a high-level Freemason and child-slaver
ON TOP OF ALL THAT. (Just for kicks as a hobby, you know, in his "spare time")

People who truly believe some "Michael Jackson mind control/freemason" theory are fucking idiots. No joke.

There will always be lowlife HATERS who have done NOTHING IN THEIR LIVES who have too much time on their hands who will concoct anything to denigrate a truly great and talented person's name. Those people ARE MOUSE SHIT COMPARED TO MICHAEL JACKSON

BlueAngel
07-12-2009, 08:26 PM
Many people aren't convicted of the crime for which they were charged, but that doesn't make them innocent.

rickwd7
07-12-2009, 08:26 PM
There will always be lowlife HATERS who have done NOTHING IN THEIR LIVES who have too much time on their hands who will concoct anything to denigrate a truly great and talented person's name. Those people ARE MOUSE SHIT COMPARED TO MICHAEL JACKSON

rickwd7
07-12-2009, 08:27 PM
There will always be lowlife HATERS who have done NOTHING IN THEIR LIVES who have too much time on their hands who will concoct anything to denigrate a truly great and talented person's name. Those people ARE MOUSE SHIT COMPARED TO MICHAEL JACKSON

BlueAngel
07-12-2009, 08:27 PM
Who said Michael Jackson was a child slaver?

rickwd7
07-12-2009, 08:28 PM
There will always be lowlife HATERS who have done NOTHING IN THEIR LIVES who have too much time on their hands who will concoct anything to denigrate a truly great and talented person's name. Those people ARE MOUSE SHIT COMPARED TO MICHAEL JACKSON

rickwd7
07-12-2009, 08:28 PM
There will always be lowlife HATERS who have done NOTHING IN THEIR LIVES who have too much time on their hands who will concoct anything to denigrate a truly great and talented person's name. Those people ARE MOUSE SHIT COMPARED TO MICHAEL JACKSON

rickwd7
07-12-2009, 08:29 PM
There will always be lowlife HATERS who have done NOTHING IN THEIR LIVES who have too much time on their hands who will concoct anything to denigrate a truly great and talented person's name.

Those people ARE MOUSE SHIT COMPARED TO MICHAEL JACKSON

BlueAngel
07-12-2009, 08:30 PM
MJ was a great dancer/singer, and, if he was GUILTY of sexual child abuse, you can thank those within the music industry who mind controlled, used and corrupted him.

You can thank his father, as well.

You can thank them for his death, too, while you're at it.

rickwd7
07-12-2009, 08:33 PM
There will always be lowlife HATERS who have done NOTHING IN THEIR LIVES and have no talent of their own that anyone cares to witness who have too much time on their hands who will concoct anything to denigrate a truly great and talented person's name.

Those people ARE MOUSE SHIT COMPARED TO MICHAEL JACKSON.

BlueAngel
07-12-2009, 08:33 PM
MJ was a great dancer/singer, and, if he was GUILTY of sexual child abuse, you can thank those within the music industry who mind controlled, used and corrupted him.

You can thank his father, as well.

You can thank them for his death, too, while you're at it.

rickwd7
07-12-2009, 08:37 PM
How great would Michael Jackson have ever been if he spent his time on forums criricizing others, (while not having any talent of his own that anyone cared about), based on what he read, instead of what he PERSONALLY knew?

Answer: He would have been a "nobody" sitting at home on his computer talking negatively about people who he never knew personally.

BlueAngel
07-12-2009, 08:38 PM
Don't forget to thank all the doctors who helped contribute to Michael Jackson's dependency on prescription narcotics.

BlueAngel
07-12-2009, 08:40 PM
Re-read the thread.

Most of my criticism is NOT directed at Michael Jackson.

rickwd7
07-12-2009, 08:40 PM
It must be nice to not know, or have even met, someone Michael Jackson, ever, and be so intimately knowledgeable about what his life was actually like on a day to day basis.

BlueAngel
07-12-2009, 08:41 PM
How great would Michael Jackson have ever been if he spent his time on forums criricizing others, (while not having any talent of his own that anyone cared about), based on what he read, instead of what he PERSONALLY knew?

Answer: He would have been a "nobody" sitting at home on his computer talking negatively about people who he never knew personally.

Re-read the thread.

Most of my criticism is directed at those who handled, controlled, medically cared for, corrupted and ultimately caused Michael Jackson's demise.

BlueAngel
07-12-2009, 08:42 PM
It must be nice to not know, or have even met, someone Michael Jackson, ever, and be so intimately knowledgeable about what his life was actually like on a day to day basis.

Sorry, but I never said I knew anything about Michael Jackson's life on a day to day basis.

rickwd7
07-12-2009, 08:44 PM
Smart, intelligent people always take what they read in the tabloid press and run with stories about people they don't know. Because we ALL know that the press NEVER EXAGGERATES about famous people who MADE IT A POINT TO KEEP THEIR LIVES PRIVATE and had the means to do so.

BlueAngel
07-12-2009, 08:47 PM
Smart, intelligent people always take what they read in the tabloid press and run with stories about people they don't know. Because we ALL know that the press NEVER EXAGGERATES about famous people who MADE IT A POINT TO KEEP THEIR LIVES PRIVATE and has the means to do so.

Just reporting what's being reported.

Not running with it.

My observations/opinions are based upon my expertise within the field of MIND CONTROL.

rickwd7
07-12-2009, 08:48 PM
Sorry, but I never said I knew anything about Michael Jackson's life on a day to day basis.

Which is why it is STUPID TO TRY AND PRETEND LIKE YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM.

BlueAngel
07-12-2009, 08:48 PM
Identification requested.

rickwd7
07-12-2009, 08:49 PM
Just reporting what's being reported.

Not running with it.

My observations/opinions are based upon my expertise within the field of MIND CONTROL.

THEN STICK TO THAT AND LEAVE YOUR "OPINIONS" ABOUT MICHAEL JACKSON'S LIFE OUT OF YOUR "OBSERVATIONS".

YOU JUST ADMITTED YOU REALLY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT HIM EXCEPT WHAT YOU HAVE READ AND HAVE NO WAY TO PROVE THAT WHAT YOU READ IS TRUE.

BlueAngel
07-12-2009, 08:53 PM
Which is why it is STUPID TO TRY AND PRETEND LIKE YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM.

I'm not pretending.

I speak from the INTELLIGENCE/KNOWLEDGE I possess regarding the VERY serious issue of MIND CONTROL.

BlueAngel
07-12-2009, 08:55 PM
THEN STICK TO THAT AND LEAVE YOUR "OPINIONS" ABOUT MICHAEL JACKSON'S LIFE OUT OF YOUR "OBSERVATIONS".

YOU JUST ADMITTED YOU REALLY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT HIM EXCEPT WHAT YOU HAVE READ AND HAVE NO WAY TO PROVE THAT WHAT YOU READ IS TRUE.

Sorry, but I'll continue with my opinions regardless of what you desire.

I admitted I knew nothing about Michael Jackson's day to day life, but that my observations are formed from the INTELLIGENCE/KNOWLEDGE I possess regarding the very serious issue of MIND CONTROL and that which is and has been reported about Michael Jackson's life.

rickwd7
07-12-2009, 08:58 PM
I'm not pretending.

I speak from the INTELLIGENCE/KNOWLEDGE I possess regarding the serious issue of MIND CONTROL.

And YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT MICHAEL JACKSON's PRIVATE LIFE.

SO, EITHER YOU ARE A TROLL, STUPID OR HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN DENIGRATE A PERSON WHO MADE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE HAPPY DURING HIS LIFE AND GAVE MILLIONS OF HIS OWN MONEY TO HELP THE LESS FORTUNATE.

WHAT HAVE YOU EVER DONE?

rickwd7
07-12-2009, 09:00 PM
So.....again.....

let's set aside that THE FACT that Michael Jackson was
NEVER CONVICTED OF ANYTHING......

However, I'm sure that between

1. the year round touring since age 6,

2. almost daily rehearsals to perfect exceedingly complicated concert presentations,

3. months out of each year spent in the studio daily writing and producing hit albums,

4. his well-documented charitable travels all over the world for the last 20 years

5. The hundreds, if not thousands, of people watching his every move anytime he went into public
(even WITH the "disguises")

.....I'm SURE Michael Jackson had PLENTY of time to become a high-level Freemason and child-slaver
ON TOP OF ALL THAT. (Just for kicks as a hobby, you know, in his "spare time")

People who truly believe some "Michael Jackson mind control/freemason" theory are fucking idiots. No joke.

BlueAngel
07-12-2009, 09:00 PM
And YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT MICHAEL JACKSON's PRIVATE LIFE.

SO, EITHER YOU ARE A TROLL, STUPID OR HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN DENIGRATE A PERSON WHO MADE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE HAPPY DURING HIS LIFE AND GAVE MILLIONS OF HIS OWN MONEY TO HELP THE LESS FORTUNATE.

WHAT HAVE YOU EVER DONE?

You know nothing about Michael Jackson's private life either so that makes us even.

What have you ever done?

You would be the troll.

BlueAngel
07-12-2009, 09:14 PM
My OBSERVATION is that Michael Jackson was a mind control victim who was murdered by his handlers/controllers and doctors.

Kindly tell me how that OBSERVATION denigrates him?

As I said on this thread to Michael.

THEY will not go unpunished.

Rest in peace, Michael!

rickwd7
07-12-2009, 09:14 PM
You know nothing about Michael Jackson's private life either so that makes us even.

What have you ever done?

You would be the troll.

I NEVER CLAIMED TO TRY AN D "OPINE" ABOUT HIS LIFE....YOU DID....YOU NEED TO EXPLAIN SINCE YOU "KNOW" HE WAS MIND CONTROLLED.....PROVE IT.....OH, WAIT....YOU CAN'T.

BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW. NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU MAY WANT PEOPLE TO THINK YOU DO.

DUNCE.

rickwd7
07-12-2009, 09:16 PM
IF HE WAS MURDERED, NO ONE NEEDS YOUR HELP OR THEORIES. BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

BlueAngel
07-12-2009, 09:17 PM
I NEVER CLAIMED TO TRY AN D "OPINE" ABOUT HIS LIFE....YOU DID....YOU NEED TO EXPLAIN SINCE YOU "KNOW" HE WAS MIND CONTROLLED.....PROVE IT.....OH, WAIT....YOU CAN'T.

BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW. NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU MAY WANT PEOPLE TO THINK YOU DO.

DUNCE.

I know because I was a mind control victim myself.

PERIOD!

I possess INTELLIGENCE/KNOWLEDGE about this matter that you don't.

PERIOD!

You know much less than I do.

My OBSERVATION is that Michael Jackson was a mind control victim who was murdered by his handlers/controllers and doctors.

Kindly tell me how that OBSERVATION denigrates him?

As I said on this thread to Michael.

THEY will not go unpunished.

Rest in peace, Michael!

BlueAngel
07-12-2009, 09:18 PM
IF HE WAS MURDERED, NO ONE NEEDS YOUR HELP OR THEORIES. BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

You care so much about Michael Jackson, but could care less if he was murdered.

Oh, yes.

That makes perfect sense.

Who is denigrating the man now?

I say it would be you.

BlueAngel
07-12-2009, 09:20 PM
IF HE WAS MURDERED, NO ONE NEEDS YOUR HELP OR THEORIES. BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

Yes, I do and I've already explained them.

BlueAngel
07-12-2009, 09:25 PM
Rest in peace, Michael.

THEY will not go unpunished.

BlueAngel
07-12-2009, 09:30 PM
Like I said, you can thank Michael Jackson's handlers/controllers, his father and his doctors for his demise.

His mother, too, since she has stood by her abusive husband's side.

At Jackson's memorial, his father announced a new record label and a BOOT CAMP he created for young rappers.

How appropriate.

YIKES!

Where is this BOOT CAMP located?

What are the age of the young rappers?

Can we get some information, please?

Joe Jackson cannot announce a BOOT CAMP for young rappers without details.

So, kindly present details.

Thank you.

BlueAngel
07-12-2009, 09:43 PM
Information on Joe Jackson's boot camp for young rappers requested, please.

BlueAngel
07-12-2009, 09:54 PM
How does Michael Jackson's father/mother and siblings support themselves and their families?

Details, please.

What are their professions?

BlueAngel
07-12-2009, 10:07 PM
How 'bout Jermaine and Tito?

What are their professions?

How do they derive an income?

Joe Jackson created A BOOT CAMP for young rappers?

A BOOT CAMP?

Where is it located?

What are the ages of the BOOT CAMPERS?

BlueAngel
07-12-2009, 10:10 PM
What about LaToya?

What is her profession?

How does she derive an income?

BlueAngel
07-12-2009, 10:16 PM
Did you listen to Dr. Klein, Jackson's Dermotologist, on the Larry King show?

He credits himself with the INVENTION of injectibles.

Is this true?

He said he was rebuilding Jackson's face.

Huh?

Rebuilding it how?

How does a Dermotologist rebuild a face?

They're SKIN doctors and not plastic surgeons.

Sorry, but I'm a little confused on this issue.

Klein said that Jackson thought his face was a work of art.

So, why did it need to be rebuilt?

neo1962
07-13-2009, 07:56 PM
Okay, weird topic, but isn't like, every popular idiot a freemason now?

BlueAngel
07-16-2009, 09:55 PM
The New York Post reported on Tuesday that Rowe had agreed to take about $4 million to give up her parental rights to children Prince Michael Jr, 12, and Paris, 11.

Rowe, through her attorney denies that she agreed to accept money to waive her parental rights to her children.

However, Rowe, in 2001 sought to give up her parental rights to her children.

So, did Rowe seek to give up her parental rights to her children because she has no maternal instincts or she accepted four million dollars to do so?

Since she later went back to court to contest her waiver, this indicates that in 2001, when she sought to give up her parental rights to her children it was granted.

Otherwise, there would be no reason for her to return to court to contest the waiver.

According to the article, her contestment of that waiver never went into effect.

How come?

How does one go to court to contest a waiver; the waiver is granted, but doesn't go into effect?

Is that because the contestment to the waiver was never granted?

My hunch is that Debbie Rowe and Michael Jackson are not the biological parents of Prince Michael and Paris.

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Michael Jackson News

Jackson's ex-wife denies giving up kids

Reuters, Jul 14, 2009 6:00 pm PDT

An attorney for Michael Jackson's ex-wife Debbie Rowe on Tuesday angrily denied reports that she had agreed to take millions of dollars to give up parental rights to her two children with the King of Pop.

In a letter to the New York Post, attorney Eric George said that Rowe, who was married to Michael Jackson from 1996 to 1999 and is the mother of his two oldest children, "has not and will not" give up her parental rights.

Nor will Rowe, whose attorneys have been in talks with lawyers for Michael Jackson's parents, Katherine and Joe, take any money beyond the spousal support to which she and the singer agreed upon years ago, George's letter states.

In a 2002 will signed by Michael Jackson, he said he had "intentionally omitted" to provide for Rowe.

The New York Post reported on Tuesday that Rowe had agreed to take about $4 million to give up her parental rights to children Prince Michael Jr, 12, and Paris, 11.

George has asked the newspaper to publish a retraction.
In a statement, New York Post editor in chief Col Allan said, "The Post stands by its story."

Katherine Jackson, 79, was granted temporary guardianship of her son's three children on June 29, only days after the "Thriller" singer died.

George's letter states that no agreement has been reached between Rowe and the Jacksons on custody or visitation.

Jackson, who died on June 25 after suffering cardiac arrest at his rented Los Angeles mansion, was the father of a third child named Prince Michael II, 7, but the boy's surrogate mother has never been identified.

Rowe in 2001 sought to give up parental rights to her children, but she later went to court to contest her waiver of those rights and it never went into effect.

A custody hearing on Jackson's three children is set for this coming Monday.

Also on Tuesday, an official from the LA Coroner's office, which is one of several law enforcement agencies investigating Jackson's death, visited the office of Dr. Arnold Klein, the singer's dermatologist, to obtain medical records.

Craig Harvey, a spokesman for the LA Coroner, said results of an autopsy on Jackson will not be released this week or next, as final work is being completed on the case.

(Editing by Bob Tourtellotte and Todd Eastham)

BlueAngel
07-16-2009, 10:40 PM
What kind of a MOTHER voluntarily goes to court to relinquish her parental rights to her children?

A woman who isn't the biological mother of the children?

A woman who knew she would marry Jackson; give birth to two children; divorce; receive a divorce settlement and a hefty 4 million to relinquish her parental rights.

In otherwords, a "marriage of convenience."

What facts were presented to the JUDGE who granted Rowe's request to relinquish her parental rights to their children?

Unfit mother?

Money?

I am very much interested in knowing the name of the JUDGE who granted Debbie Rowe's request to relinquish her parental rights to her children and under what grounds it was granted?

Details, please.

What kind of a FATHER, Michael Jackson, would want the mother of his children to give up her parental rights to her children and pay her to do so?

Like I said.

A "marriage of convenience."

As I said, as well, my hunch is that Debbie Rowe and Michael Jackson are not the biological parents of Prince and Paris.

BlueAngel
07-16-2009, 10:52 PM
Still awaiting on information about Joe Jackson's BOOT CAMP for YOUNG RAPPERS.

BlueAngel
07-17-2009, 11:46 PM
I think it's about time that someone interview Joe Jackson.

Has this MAN ever been interviewed?

I think it's way overdue.

He has stated on several occasions that he believes his son, Michael Jackson, was murdered/killed?

Whom does Joe Jackson believe murdered/killed his son?

Some random person who was allowed entry into his son's house?

BlueAngel
07-19-2009, 10:07 PM
Why is it that Debbie Rowe always refers to Prince and Paris as "Michael's" children?

Is it because she is not the biological mother of these children.

I don't think that either Jackson or Rowe are the biological parents of Prince and Paris, but that's just my opinion.

Could this be the reason that Debbie Rowe relinquished her parental rights and refers to Prince and Paris as "Michael's" children, in addition to receiving millions of dollars to do so?

Was this the agreement before the children were born?

A marriage of convenience, cause, seriously, these two were in LOVE?

Why is it that ROWE now wants custody?

Is she looking for another pay-out?

Why would any judge consider giving Debbie Rowe custody of Prince and Paris when she went to court and HAD her parental rights relinquished.

Yeah.

Sounds like a very stable person to me.

Hey, I didn't accept any money to give up my parental rights, I just don't give a damn about being a mother to my children.

Why would any judge think it would be possible for a 79 year old woman, Jackson's mother, to become the legal guardian of these children?

How sad for the children.

Debbie Rowe relinquished her parental rights, hasn't had a role in Prince or Paris' life since that time and now all of a sudden her maternal instincts have returned.

Michael Jackson News - Yahoo! Music (http://new.music.yahoo.com/michael-jackson/news/debbie-rowe-sues-woman-over-tv-interview--61991712)

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Debbie Rowe sues woman over TV interview
AP, Jul 17, 2009 4:14 pm PDT

Michael Jackson's ex-wife Deborah Rowe has sued a woman who claimed in a television interview that Rowe didn't want custody of the pop star's children but was interested in getting money from the Jackson family.

Rowe filed a defamation and invasion-of-privacy lawsuit Thursday against Rebecca White of Florida. The suit seeks unspecified damages, but specifically targets any money that White may have been paid by TV show "Extra" for an interview that aired earlier this week.

The stories were based on White's description of e-mails she said she exchanged with Rowe after Jackson's death on June 25. Rowe, 50, denies she sent any recent e-mails to White.

The lawsuit also claims intentional infliction of emotional distress and states that Rowe has suffered "shame, mortification, hurt feelings and injury to her reputation" as a result of White's interview.

An e-mail sent to a publicist for "Extra" seeking comment wasn't immediately returned. A phone message left on a phone number registered to White in Key West, Fla. was not returned Friday.

The stories based on White's interview remain active on the show's Web site.
Rowe's lawsuit states that she hasn't communicated with White since Jackson's death.

The suit states that White interviewed her in 2008 for an MTV production and has since been "attempting to portray herself as a friend."

In the "Extra" interview, White is described as a "close friend" who claimed Rowe had emphatically stated in an e-mail exchange that she didn't want custody of Jackson's three children.

Rowe is the mother of Jackson's two oldest children.

White also told "Extra" she thought Rowe was motivated by money, and that was the reason she was getting involved in a guardianship case that will decide who cares for the children, who range in age from 7 to 12.

A hearing on whether Jackson's 79-year-old mother, Katherine Jackson, should continue to care for the children is scheduled Monday.

The lawsuit came two days after Rowe's attorney, Eric M. George, demanded a retraction from White. The lawsuit states White hasn't responded.

The suit rejects White's contention that she's a friend, stating that Rowe didn't respond to two e-mails White sent her after Jackson's death. Rowe also rejected an offer to have dinner with White when she apparently flew to Los Angeles for the "Extra" interview, according to the lawsuit.

The filing cites numerous other instances in which White has made outlandish claims to tabloid publications, some of which have been discredited. The lawsuit contends White was paid for those interviews, and suggests "Extra" flew her to Los Angeles and may have paid for her interview.

Rowe has been quick to try to rebut or silence false reports. The lawsuit states that her attorneys got News of the World to remove a story based on assertions made by White. Earlier this week, Rowe's attorney demanded a retraction from the New York Post after the paper ran a story claiming she had accepted a payout to drop her custody bid.

No settlement in the guardianship case has been announced or filed. Nor has Rowe formally petitioned for custody.

Rowe's attorneys, however, have vouched for the authenticity of an interview she gave Los Angeles TV station KNBC in which she reportedly said she wanted custody and a restraining order against Jackson family patriarch Joe Jackson.

In that case, George said the comments were reported accurately, but were a "snapshot" into Rowe's thinking, and that no final decisions about a custody bid had been made.

No restraining order petition against Joe Jackson has been filed.
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AP researcher Rhonda Shafner contributed to this report.

BlueAngel
07-30-2009, 07:48 PM
Michael Jackson used 19 alias' to secure narcotics from various doctors.

This doesn't necessarily mean that he had 19 doctors.

However, the many doctors who prescribed narcotics to Jackson's alias' undoubtedly knew they were prescribing them to Jackson.

The alias' are a cover for both Jackson and his doctors.

Unless, of course, Jackson visited the offices of his various doctors wearing a disguise and they were to DUMB to know it was him.

;)

BlueAngel
07-30-2009, 09:07 PM
What person, in their RIGHT MIND, would want to be injected with a DRUG that causes one to become unconscious because they're having a difficult time sleeping?

What?

A sleeping pill wasn't good enough for Jackson?

He required an injection of a DRUG that is used in hospitals by anesthesiologists during surgeries and unobtainable through a prescription and/or pharmacy?

Which hospital(s)/anesthesiologists provided this DRUG to the various doctors who injected Jackson with it?

BlueAngel
07-30-2009, 10:45 PM
Kindly inform US from where Dr. Murray obtained the drug propofol that he his accused of injecting into Michael Jackson and causing his death.

This anesthetic cannot be obtained from a pharmacy.

It can only be secured from a hospital.

So, which hospital(s) provided Dr. Murray with this anesthetic?

Did Dr. Murray just walk into a hospital and steal it?

Which hospital(s) aided in supplying Dr. Murray with the drug PROPOFOL?

Warrants for Jackson's doc call singer 'addict' - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090731/ap_on_en_mu/us_michael_jackson_investigation)

Warrants for Jackson's doc call singer 'addict'

AP – FILE - In this July 7, 2006 file photo, Dr. Conrad Murray poses for a photo as he opens the Acres Homes …

Reuters By THOMAS WATKINS, Associated Press Writer Thomas Watkins,

Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 19 mins ago

LOS ANGELES – Authorities investigating Michael Jackson's death referred to him as an "addict" and were seeking evidence related to the powerful anesthetic propofol, according to search warrants released Thursday.

The documents show investigators have cause to believe several California Business and Professions codes had been broken, including "excessive prescribing," a misdemeanor punishable by a fine or imprisonment for up to
180 days.

Los Angeles police and federal Drug Enforcement Administration agents spent much of Tuesday at the Las Vegas home and business of Jackson's personal doctor, Conrad Murray, who is the focus of a manslaughter investigation. The raids sought evidence supporting that charge, as well as code violations, including "prescribing to an addict" and "unprofessional conduct."

The state codes cover all prescribing professionals, including doctors and dentists, and violations could lead to a revoked or suspended license, said Kimberly Kirchmeyer, deputy director of the Medical Board of California. The codes state a physician cannot prescribe drugs to anyone with a chemical dependency or who is using the drugs for non-therapeutic purposes; they define an addict as someone who continues to use a drug despite harm, shows compulsive use or has impaired control over use.

The warrants, which had been sealed when the searches were conducted, also said investigators wanted all documentation relating to the "purchase, transfer, receiving, ordering, delivery and storage of propofol."

A law enforcement official earlier told The Associated Press that on the day Jackson died Murray gave him propofol to help him sleep and that investigators are working under the theory the anesthetic caused Jackson's heart to stop. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is ongoing.

A cause of death has yet to be announced. The Los Angeles County coroner has twice said toxicology findings on Jackson were imminent but after meeting Thursday with investigators Assistant Chief Coroner Ed Winter announced an indefinite delay. Winter said further investigation needs to be done; he did not go into detail.

Propofol, dubbed "milk of amnesia," is commonly used for surgeries and is not meant as a sleep agent or to be given in private homes. Because of its potency, only trained anesthesia professionals are supposed to administer it and patients are to be monitored at all times.

Murray, a cardiologist, has spoken to police but not commented publicly since Jackson died June 25. His attorney, Edward Chernoff, did not comment Thursday, but has previously said the doctor did not prescribe anything that "should have" killed Jackson.

Jackson was given anesthesia for numerous medical procedures over the years and had a long history of prescription drug use.

Search warrants issued last week in Houston allowed authorities to search Murray's clinic and a storage unit. They were the first public acknowledgment that investigators consider Jackson's death a possible manslaughter and that Murray is the target of the investigation.

The Las Vegas warrants were far more detailed and authorized authorities to look for medical and other records related to Jackson or any of the apparent 19 aliases he used, including the names Omar Arnold, Josephine Baker, Paul Farance, Jack London and Michael Amir Williams Muhammad.

Among the items seized in the Vegas searches were an iPhone, copies of several computer hard drives, a CD with the name Omar Arnold on it and a binder containing invoices for medical equipment and supplies. No propofol was found.

The warrant also shows investigators are seeking correspondence from seven doctors it names. One, Dr. Allan Metzger of Los Angeles, is an internist and rheumatologist who had a close relationship with Jackson beginning in 2002 and was godfather to one of the singer's children, said his attorney, Harland Braun.

Braun said Jackson invited Metzger to his home April 18. He spent about an hour and a half with him, during which time Jackson asked about sleep medication, particularly propofol.

Metzger told him it was dangerous, could be life threatening and should not be used outside a hospital, and suggested Jackson use some other sleep medication, Braun said.

Metzger's experience echoed Cherilyn Lee, a registered nurse who gave Jackson nutritional counseling earlier this year, who said he complained of insomnia and asked her repeatedly for Diprivan, the brand-name version of propofol. Lee said she also warned him of the drug's dangers and rejected his requests.

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Associated Press writers Ken Ritter in Las Vegas and Linda Deutsch in Los Angeles contributed to this report.

BlueAngel
07-30-2009, 11:13 PM
Why does it take so long for a toxicology report and why has Jackson's been delayed?

Coroner delays release of Jackson autopsy results - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090729/ap_on_en_mu/us_michael_jackson_autopsy)

Coroner delays release of Jackson autopsy results

ABC News

By THOMAS WATKINS, Associated Press Writer

Wed Jul 29, 2009, 2:21 pm ET

LOS ANGELES – The Los Angeles County coroner's office says release of Michael Jackson's autopsy results will be delayed.

Coroner's officials had said they were going to release the results this week but Assistant Chief Coroner Ed Winter said Wednesday the announcement will probably not come until next week.

Winter did not discuss reasons for the delay.

Jackson died June 25.

A law enforcement official has said investigators are working under the theory that the powerful anesthetic propofol (PROH'-puh-fahl) caused Jackson's heart to stop. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is ongoing.

BlueAngel
08-10-2009, 08:37 PM
Excerpt:

"Murray told investigators he administered the powerful anesthetic propofol and multiple sedatives to Jackson in the hours before he died, a law enforcement official told The Associated Press. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is ongoing."

Huh?

Murray admitted to investigators that he administered to Michael Jackson the drug, propofol, a drug that causes unconsciousness and, in addition, supplied multiple sedatives, as well hours before Jackson's death.

Sounds to me like he has admitted to killing Jackson.

What?

Administering the drug propofol which causes unconsciousness wasn't enough to help Jackson sleep?

Murray had to administer sedatives to him, as well.

Results of Jackson autopsy to remain sealed - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090810/ap_on_re_us/us_michael_jackson_autopsy)

Results of Jackson autopsy to remain sealed

By THOMAS WATKINS, Associated Press Writer

Mon Aug 10, 5:14 pm ET

LOS ANGELES – Coroner's investigators have completed their probe into the death of Michael Jackson but are not releasing the results yet, authorities said Monday.

The Los Angeles County coroner's office said police investigators requested that facts about what killed Jackson remain under a security hold while detectives investigate the events leading up to the pop icon's death.

Neither the coroner's office nor the Police Department would indicate when the results might be made public.

Jackson died June 25 after his personal physician, Dr. Conrad Murray, found him not breathing in bed. Despite efforts to revive him, Jackson never regained consciousness.

Investigators have been trying to determine to what extent medications may have contributed to his death at age 50. Murray told investigators he administered the powerful anesthetic propofol and multiple sedatives to Jackson in the hours before he died, a law enforcement official told The Associated Press. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is ongoing.

Murray's attorney, Edward Chernoff, has previously said the doctor did not prescribe anything that "should have" killed Jackson.

The investigation into Murray's background has already seen investigators serve search warrants at his properties in Las Vegas and Houston, where they seized computer hard drives, correspondence and other items. Court documents show investigators consider Jackson's death a possible manslaughter and that, while they are looking at the activities of at least six other doctors, Murray is the target of the investigation.

Keeping Jackson's autopsy sealed gives detectives a better chance to speak candidly with people who may have administered or prescribed drugs to the singer, Loyola University Law School Professor Stan Goldman said.

"If people are trying to get spontaneous statements or something that is not rehearsed or planned, not having the results out might help do that," Goldman said.

He added that if doctors who prescribed certain drugs to Jackson discovered those substances were present in his body when he died, "someone who is not very scrupulous might try to cover their tracks and destroy records."

Los Angeles police spokesman Officer Bruce Borihanh said his department would not answer any questions about the case until the investigation is complete.

BlueAngel
08-12-2009, 09:34 PM
I authored the following thread back in 2005:

http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/f31/michael-jackson-763.html

BlueAngel
08-18-2009, 12:18 AM
Jackson's mother considering wrongful death suit

Michael Jackson News - Yahoo! Music (http://new.music.yahoo.com/michael-jackson/news/jacksons-mother-considering-wrongful-death-suit--61990644)

AP, Aug 17, 2009 8:52 pm PDT

An attorney for Michael Jackson's mother says she is considering a wrongful death lawsuit because of the circumstances surrounding her son's demise, and that the singer's personal physician is a likely target.
The idea is still nascent and Dr. Conrad Murray is the main name that's been mentioned, attorney Burt Levitch said Monday, following a court hearing where a judge approved a merchandising deal that will benefit the King of Pop's estate.

"The possibility of a wrongful death action has been floated," Levitch said. "In that regard, no decision has been finalized ... Dr. Murray's name has been floated because he is under investigation."

Authorities investigating Jackson's June 25 death have been focusing on Murray, who they believe administered a powerful anesthetic to the pop singer the day he died. Levitch wouldn't say whether concert promoter AEG might also be a defendant.

"It's fairly obvious from press accounts that AEG had a very active role in Michael's life for the last six months," Levitch said. "They paid for his home and for Dr. Conrad Murray."

"It would be inappropriate to speculate on any potential litigation," said AEG spokesman Michael Roth.

Miranda Sevcik, a publicist for Murray attorney Edward Chernoff, said she had seen the press conference with Levitch, but that doesn't mean a lawsuit "is imminent."

"Whether or not the Jackson family decides to proceed with a civil suit is up to them," she said in an email.

Earlier in the day, a judge signed off on a deal that would soon bring official Michael Jackson merchandise to store shelves, but the fate of a proposed tour of the King of Pop's memorabilia remained in limbo after the singer's mother expressed renewed concerns.

Attorneys for Katherine Jackson withdrew their objections to an agreement with merchandiser Bravado to bring everything from Jackson trading cards, apparel and cell phone themes to consumers.

But her objections remain a roadblock to a deal that would put some of her son's prized items on display later this year. That tour was intended to coincide with the release of a major movie featuring his final rehearsals for a series of London shows.

Levitch said Mrs. Jackson's primary objection is that it was not open to competitive bidding by companies other than AEG. He also said he believed the deal that was negotiated, which would provide a 50-50 split between AEG and the estate, was insufficient.

He also said that Mrs. Jackson has recently reasserted her desire to either be named a co-executor or have a member of the family, designated by her, as an executor. Jackson's will named longtime attorney John Branca and music executive John McClain as the sole executors of his estate, with Katherine Jackson, the singer's children and unnamed charities as beneficiaries.

"No one has reflected on what it takes to nurture an estate and no one is a better position than Katherine Jackson or her designees to do that," Levitch said. "Rather than trying to derail this estate, we would like to take our place at the table."

Howard Weitzman, an attorney for Branca and McClain, said outside court: "I'm not sure why the objections are being made" but said Mrs. Jackson certainly has the right to make them.

"Katherine Jackson is a beneficiary. She's entitled to object to deals that may impact her and the children," Weitzman said.

Attorneys for AEG and the current administrators of Jackson's estate wanted the memorabilia tour approved Monday, but Superior Court Judge Mitchell Beckloff instead scheduled an evidentiary hearing for Friday to determine if the deal represented the best arrangement for Jackson's estate.

The deal is expected to generate up to $6 million for the estate, said Weitzman. One of the concessions Katherine Jackson is apparently seeking is the authority to sign off on the deal.

Beckloff said he was inclined to reject that argument, but wasn't sure that he could grant the estate's administrators approval to enter into the deal without hearing more information.

AEG attorney Kathy Jorrie stressed outside court that the clock is ticking on the deal and it must be approved on Friday to remain viable. The exhibit, would be organized by Arts and Exhibitors International, an AEG owned company which has also staged such traveling shows as the King Tut exhibit and the exhibit of Princess Diana's possessions.

"We think it's the best deal the co-special administrators could negotiate," Jorrie said outside of court. "We don't believe the objections by Katherine Jackson are meritorious."
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AP entertainment writer Anthony McCartney contributed

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Excerpt:

"It's fairly obvious from press accounts that AEG had a very active role in Michael's life for the last six months," Levitch said. "They paid for his home and for Dr. Conrad Murray."

AEG paid for Jackson's home and for Dr. Conrad Murray.

Co-conspirators, I would say.

Seems to me they set it all up.

Excerpt:

"Earlier in the day, a judge signed off on a deal that would soon bring official Michael Jackson merchandise to store shelves, but the fate of a proposed tour of the King of Pop's memorabilia remained in limbo after the singer's mother expressed renewed concerns."

"The deal is expected to generate up to $6 million for the estate, said Weitzman. One of the concessions Katherine Jackson is apparently seeking is the authority to sign off on the deal."

Milking the ONCE famous cash cow for all he's worth and, apparently, he's worth more DEAD than ALIVE.

Excerpt:

"He also said that Mrs. Jackson has recently reasserted her desire to either be named a co-executor or have a member of the family, designated by her, as an executor. Jackson's will named longtime attorney John Branca and music executive John McClain as the sole executors of his estate, with Katherine Jackson, the singer's children and unnamed charities as beneficiaries."

Excuse me, but I think Michael made it apparent whom he desired to be the sole exectors of his estate.

If he wanted his mother to be the executor, he would have named her as such.

AEG is one of the leading sports and entertainment presenters in the world.

Maybe Katherine Jackson should name herself in the wrongful death suit, along with her husband since they turned Michael over to the mind controllers at a very young age and reaped the monetary benefits of his stardom.

BlueAngel
08-27-2009, 11:50 PM
What is happening with the investigation into Michael Jackson's death?

Oh, I see.

The Jackson's are about to release a REALITY show.

Some of Michael's family members are cashing in on his demise.

You know, those who NEVER had a successful career in the music industry.

Anyway.

What do you think?

Have they caught the man who killed Jackson?

Dr. Conrad Murray.

Could the "entertainment" company who hired Murray as Jackson's personal physician have employed a more incompetent doctor?

According to everything that's been reported, Dr. Murray injected Jackson with an anesthetic after he had ingested a number of other narcotics, one being ATIVAN.

The plot thickens.

A video was shown on CNN of someone who supposedly was Michael Jackson being ushered through a door while the stretcher to the ambulance he supposedly was transported to hospital in remained empty.

Oh, the webs that they weave.

Who shot the video?

iHIMself™
08-28-2009, 06:24 PM
precisely. THAT was NOT MJ in the helicopter!! That was some imposter, or THE IMPOSTER, the one they continue to show on world wide media and news, documentaries, as being MJ when it clearly is not.

Makes me wonder just how long MJ has been dead.

BlueAngel
08-30-2009, 07:54 PM
precisely. THAT was NOT MJ in the helicopter!! That was some imposter, or THE IMPOSTER, the one they continue to show on world wide media and news, documentaries, as being MJ when it clearly is not.

Makes me wonder just how long MJ has been dead.

I think the video THEY produced has accomplished exactly what they wanted it to accomplish with certain people such as yourself.

BlueAngel
09-03-2009, 10:59 PM
Michael Jackson service belatedly under way - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090904/ap_on_en_mu/us_michael_jackson_funeral)

Michael Jackson service belatedly under way

GLENDALE, Calif. – Michael Jackson's outdoor funeral service is under way, delayed more than an hour by his family's tardy arrival.

Their lateness kept 77-year-old Elizabeth Taylor and other celebrities waiting at Forest Lawn Glendale in the stubborn heat Thursday evening. The mourners were seated outside the marble mausoleum where Jackson's coffin will be entombed.

Parents Joe and Katherine Jackson and the singer's children, 12-year-old Prince Michael, 10-year-old Paris Michael and 7-year-old Prince Michael II, known as Blanket, were in the front rows for the service.

A police escort had ushered the family's motorcade of 31 cars, including Rolls-Royces and Cadillacs, from Encino to Forest Lawn, with the hearse bearing Jackson's body at the end.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.

GLENDALE, Calif. (AP) — Michael Jackson's family has arrived more than hour late for the pop singer's funeral, keeping 77-year-old Elizabeth Taylor and other celebrities waiting on a hot summer evening.

A police escort ushered the motorcade of 31 cars, including Rolls-Royces and Cadillacs, to Forest Lawn Glendale on Thursday.

The planned start of the service came and went as the crowd of about 200 awaited the arrival of Jackson's parents Joe and Katherine and the singer's children. The motorcade from their Encino compound departed more than a half-hour after the funeral was to begin.

Temperatures hovered at 90 just before sunset, with some mourners fanning themselves with programs for the service. Other mourners included Barry Bonds, Macaulay Culkin and the Rev. Al Sharpton.

---------------------------------------------------------------

Excuse me, but Michael Jackson died when?

On, June 25, 2009 from what has been reported.

Where has his body been kept for the past two months?

BlueAngel
09-26-2009, 07:44 PM
Michael told his Rabbi that his father would oil his body and beat him with the cord from an iron.

As I have said, the CONTROLLERS look for TALENTED children who are impoverished and abused at home.

They are easy prey/targets.

On another note.

I'm curious about Mackenzie Phillips.

She has written a book about a CONSENSUAL sexual relationship that she had with her father for over a decade.

You know, her father of the musical group, the Mama's and the Papa's, from the 60's.

If this relationship were consensual, Mackenzie would have had to have been 18 years or older when it was conceived.

Sorry, but I have a difficult time believing that there wasn't any sexual contact between Mackenzie and her father until the time she was 18 years of age or older.

Mackenzie states that she isn't mentally ill; however there is something definitely not right with a person who proclaims to have had a sexual relationship with their father for over ten years and later writes about it in a book and refers to it as CONSENSUAL because she was over the age of 18.

She obviously has a problem with knowing the difference between what is MORALLY right and what is MORALLY wrong.

Phillips told Oprah that she was hoping to help others.

Excuse me, but any adult who commits to a sexual relationship with their father for ten years and considers the same to be a rational decision on their part because they consented to it, IMO, is not capable of helping others.

They would be the person who needs to seek the help of a professional.

jazzyakajj
11-03-2009, 12:13 PM
people are trying to make him out as a monster as a freak but NO!!! he is not he is just misunderstood he didnt have a childhood and most of his life he lived it out it was a childhood every child would love to have and also there are people making him look bad because he was hangiing around the wrong people so he realised it was bad so the "illiuminate" made him white fill the press with slander but in michael jackson heart lies the heart of a little boy that just loved to sing R.I.P mj

BlueAngel
11-22-2009, 04:21 PM
Nov. 16-22: Crashes, Feuds, Rumors & Duets (i.e., Just Another Week In Music News) - That's Really Week (http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/thatsreallyweek/58036/nov-16-22-crashes-feuds-rumorsduets-ie-just-another-week-in-music-news/)

Posted Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:12pm PST by Lyndsey Parker in

That's Really Week (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/SIG=11lbit8k3/**http%3A//new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/thatsreallyweek)
http://a323.yahoofs.com/ymg/thatsreallyweek__4/thatsreallyweek-238948610-1258766713_thumb.jpg?ym5VNPCDN_I293Tz (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/SIG=13fr5om9g/**http%3A//a323.yahoofs.com/ymg/thatsreallyweek__4/thatsreallyweek-238948610-1258766713.jpg%3Fym5VNPCDWcMLbyHA)Sorry for continuing on a somber note, but other tragedies dominated the headlines this week, specifically tragedies related to Michael Jackson. First Evan Chandler--father of Jordan Chandler, the boy who first accused Michael of molestation--committed suicide by handgun, sparking speculation that he'd perhaps done so out of guilt over the whole child molestation scandal that arguably started the downward spiral of the fallen King Of Pop's bizarre life. We shall never really know, and there was no suicide note at the scene.

samsamsonsoy
11-23-2009, 05:44 AM
Is PeeWee Herman a Freemason?

YouTube - US Congress Passes Pedophile Hate Crime Bill

BlueAngel
02-26-2010, 11:19 PM
So, why is it the media isn't covering the aftermath of Jackson's death and the doctor who has been charged with his murder?

BlueAngel
02-26-2010, 11:25 PM
Nov. 16-22: Crashes, Feuds, Rumors & Duets (i.e., Just Another Week In Music News) - That's Really Week (http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/thatsreallyweek/58036/nov-16-22-crashes-feuds-rumorsduets-ie-just-another-week-in-music-news/)

Posted Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:12pm PST by Lyndsey Parker in

That's Really Week (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/SIG=11lbit8k3/**http%3A//new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/thatsreallyweek)
http://a323.yahoofs.com/ymg/thatsreallyweek__4/thatsreallyweek-238948610-1258766713_thumb.jpg?ym5VNPCDN_I293Tz (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/SIG=13fr5om9g/**http%3A//a323.yahoofs.com/ymg/thatsreallyweek__4/thatsreallyweek-238948610-1258766713.jpg%3Fym5VNPCDWcMLbyHA)Sorry for continuing on a somber note, but other tragedies dominated the headlines this week, specifically tragedies related to Michael Jackson. First Evan Chandler--father of Jordan Chandler, the boy who first accused Michael of molestation--committed suicide by handgun, sparking speculation that he'd perhaps done so out of guilt over the whole child molestation scandal that arguably started the downward spiral of the fallen King Of Pop's bizarre life. We shall never really know, and there was no suicide note at the scene.

Any word from Evan Chandler's family as to why he committed suicide because, as the writer says, to say that he killed himself because he felt guilty over his son's accusations of molestation by Jackson which caused Michael's downward spiral is nothing more than speculation.

iHIMself™
05-12-2010, 04:20 AM
Maybe he was going to open his mouth and tell all.

I agree. Speculation it is.

jane doe
05-12-2010, 10:02 AM
Suicide isn't based upon one reason.

iHIMself™
05-12-2010, 08:43 PM
No, of course not, but the writer says that he killed himself because he felt guilty over his son's accusations of molestation by Jackson which caused Michael's downward spiral. Doesn't say much else, so we are assuming that this accusation is the primary reason for his suicide.

I like the...he got murdered because he was going to open his mouth and tell everyone that michael was actually quite wonderful and he was being destroyed, like all entertainers who stop making everyone else money, by those with vetted interests, theory.

Britney spears......oh britney, wonderful britney, britney, britney, britney.

She stops making them money.......

Look at Britney, oh my lord britney, shame britney, disgrace britney, terrible mother britney, booo britney.....

She returns....unwillingly (MTV performance?).....

Oh britney, britney's back bitch, yay britney, britney, britney, britney


Somehow, there's only a few of us who can really see what is happening in the entertainment industry.

I really wonder if Elvis actually died of an overdose, and the Presley phenomenon that evolved afterwoods was a learning curve for these vampires, or they knew better from the start, and made a financial move to establish the elvis empire before elvis himself destroyed any possibility of it.

BlueAngel
05-12-2010, 11:09 PM
No, of course not, but the writer says that he killed himself because he felt guilty over his son's accusations of molestation by Jackson which caused Michael's downward spiral. Doesn't say much else, so we are assuming that this accusation is the primary reason for his suicide.

I like the...he got murdered because he was going to open his mouth and tell everyone that michael was actually quite wonderful and he was being destroyed, like all entertainers who stop making everyone else money, by those with vetted interests, theory.

Britney spears......oh britney, wonderful britney, britney, britney, britney.

She stops making them money.......

Look at Britney, oh my lord britney, shame britney, disgrace britney, terrible mother britney, booo britney.....

She returns....unwillingly (MTV performance?).....

Oh britney, britney's back bitch, yay britney, britney, britney, britney


Somehow, there's only a few of us who can really see what is happening in the entertainment industry.

I really wonder if Elvis actually died of an overdose, and the Presley phenomenon that evolved afterwoods was a learning curve for these vampires, or they knew better from the start, and made a financial move to establish the elvis empire before elvis himself destroyed any possibility of it.

Another good post, but you could have done without the "B" word.

Calling a woman a "bitch" is disgraceful.

Kindly apologize.

Thank you.

Like I said, when they stop making money for the entertainment industry and they are of a stature such as Elvis and Jackson, they are worth more DEAD than alive.

As far as LENNON, he could have continued to make a fortune for them and himself, but he was breaking through his programming.

He was, most probably, at the point of no return to them.

He would never be the same.

As far as Spears.

The same as Lennon.

Breaking through her programming.

So, they attempted a "psychotic" episode, hoping to destroy her, but they didn't.

She attempted suicide, but survived.

They took her children from her, but she survived.

At present, she is under her father's wings, but not so sure how long she will last.

Sad, but true.

She isn't making any money for them.

iHIMself™
05-13-2010, 06:36 PM
The B' word was referring to her song with that infamous beginning to it. I wasn't calling her a b*.

She made a quick comeback. First she seemed forced into it, with that horrible MTV performance. The media drilled her for it. It was way too evident she didnt want to be there. Then she released the album, and she was again praised by the media instead of ridiculed. Because she was doing what she was told, and making them money again.

But it wasn't to last long. Poor thing's back in the noose.

BlueAngel
05-13-2010, 11:50 PM
The B' word was referring to her song with that infamous beginning to it. I wasn't calling her a b*.

She made a quick comeback. First she seemed forced into it, with that horrible MTV performance. The media drilled her for it. It was way too evident she didnt want to be there. Then she released the album, and she was again praised by the media instead of ridiculed. Because she was doing what she was told, and making them money again.

But it wasn't to last long. Poor thing's back in the noose.

Just goes to show how much attention I pay to Brittney's songs.

Apologies.

BlueAngel
06-26-2010, 07:56 PM
So, who is in charge of handing over Michael Jackson's memorbilia to sell at an auction, and who, ultimately, receives the profits?

Worth more dead than alive?

A pair of Jackson's stage worn loafers sold for $90,000 and were listed at $2,000.00 to $3,000.00.

What's more pathetic?

The people who gave Jackson's stage worn loafers to sell at an auction for $3,000.00 or the person who bought them for $90,000.00?

Michael Jackson News - Yahoo! Music (http://new.music.yahoo.com/michael-jackson/news/jacksons-84-victory-tour-glove-sells-for-190k--61990814)

Michael Jackson News

AP, Jun 26, 2010 5:09 pm PDT

Bidders from around the world bought up Michael Jackson memorabilia worth nearly $1 million at an auction on the anniversary of his death, including $190,000 for the Swarovski-crystal-studded glove he wore on his 1984 Victory Tour.

The bidding that began Friday on more than 200 items was "unlike anything we've ever experienced," said Darren Julien of Julien's Auctions, which ran the auction at Planet Hollywood in Las Vegas..

Some items, like the glove, brought 10 times more than their estimated value, he said..

"It just shows you Michael Jackson is the most sought after and most collectible celebrity of all time. It was just phenomenal," Julien told the Las Vegas Review-Journal..

"People flew in from Asia, Russia, all over. Now that he's gone, we now realize the true legend we lost," said Julien, who has not had a similar auction in his 15 years in the business. He predicted the sales would easily top $1 million by the time the auction wrapped up Sunday..

The glove had been expected to sell for between $20,000 and $30,000. The $190,000 sale price included the buyer's premium of $30,000, a standard industry fee that goes to the auction house, Julien said..

The winning bidder was Wanda Kelley of Los Angeles, who also bought a number of Jackson's albums at the auction, the Las Vegas Sun reported. She said she was prepared to go higher if necessary..

"Let's just say I wasn't walking out of here without that glove," she said..

A pair of Jackson's stage-worn loafers that were listed as worth $2,000 to $3,000 went for $90,000..

The custom jacket that the pop singer was wearing during his interview with Barbara Walters was listed at $6,000 to $8,000. It sold for $120,000..

A white Fedora sold for $56,250. One of the last autographs Jackson signed, and dated June 24, 2009, in his handwriting, went for $21,000..

BlueAngel
06-28-2010, 09:16 PM
How sad, Michael.

Your mother felt it necessary to sell a pair of your worn out loafers at an auction for $2,000.00.

RIP!

WanderingAbiff
10-16-2010, 12:33 PM
I don't know if he is or isn't. But, there are black freemasons.
With his money and stuff, you think he wasn't 'invited' to be one?

I would imagine all the wealthy blacks are freemasons. Every wealthy man I've known has been a bonafide freemason or a financial supporter/associate.

Also, the bumper stickers the masons have out there says..."to be one, ask one".

Me? Nah, they'll never ask. Plus, I know better than to ask as well. They'd laugh in my face.

Don't know why you wouldn't want to ask. Just go up to a lodge, call the number on the door. Fill out a petition. If you aren't a scumbag with a criminal record, they'll admit you.

Freemasonry is about doing something for your community; being part of something bigger than yourself. Civic virtue is the end result of masonic membership. Most lodges aren't rich or even have rich members. Most lodges are filled with middle class joes. Imagine that! :eek:

Balgus
02-20-2011, 09:45 AM
I've been watching Michael Jackson videos since off the wall. Michael Jackson to me is not only a Free Mason but a Master Mason. If you look at his album covers and his videos he has been inputting all types of subliminal messages. Tell me what you think?


Hello,

I have been wondering about a certain necklace/amulet that Michael Jackson wore on February 14th while on trial. So far, I have only been able to find four instances of it in photographs, and I thought I would link them incase someone else is better suited than I to pull out something so small with editing software. As it is now, it at least could be argued that he's wearing the cross and compass (I believe the third picture gives the best shot of the object in question).

Picture1 (http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h82/TreorThePirateKing/wjacko16.jpg)

Picture2 (http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h82/TreorThePirateKing/v_00370089.jpg)

Picture3 (http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h82/TreorThePirateKing/jgw214.jpg)

Picture4 (http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h82/TreorThePirateKing/jackson.jpg)

Maybe someone could verify that he is or isn't a Freemason by providing some other evidence. If so, I welcome your information as it would most certainly be helpful to me, at least.

Thank you in advance.