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gerryduffett
09-01-2006, 05:00 PM
Hi

I was just looking for feed back on some of these topics.

Any comments on "Electronic Weapons"

Scary stuff.

Gerry Duffett

http://www.goliathboards.com/users5/gerryduffett/index.cgi

Tor
09-01-2006, 05:06 PM
Yes there is a lot of hype about them but they are mostly ineffective. Pick up and copy of Popular Science and you will learn more from them then anyone on this board.

09-01-2006, 05:11 PM
JUST WHAT KIND OF FOOLS DO YOU TAKE THE POSTERS HERE TO BE. THE PHOTOS WERE FAKE AND YOU AND YOUR PALS ARE FAKE

Tor
09-01-2006, 05:24 PM
Hey, I was trying to help the new guy out because I'm a nice guy and you come in here and disrupt this good thread.

09-01-2006, 05:29 PM
YOU AND YOUR GANG HAVE CONSTANTLY ATTACKED REAL POSTERS AND TRIED TO BULLY THEM. BTW YOU SHOULD KNOW ABOUT SPAMMING SINCE THATS YOUR GAME.

O_VAUGHAN
09-01-2006, 08:12 PM
Skanspiracy, your capslock key is located next to the "A" key. Just to the left of it. If you press it just once you won't be typing in all caps anymore.

09-01-2006, 08:23 PM
DR MAKOW IS INTELLIGENT SOMETHING YOU ARE NOT. DR. MAKOW IS AWARE OF WHO I AM.

truebeliever
09-01-2006, 09:02 PM
Any comments on "Electronic Weapons"

Are you refering to non-lethal weapons? Crowd control type stuff? If so, goto Alex Jones's web sites and search through his archives. There's tons of stuff their.

On a similar note...I was watching a doco on Iraq by an Australian reporter (Liz Jackson) for the award willing Oz current affaris program "4 Corners". The reporter interviewed an Iraqi man who formed part of the original Baghdad resistance and he stated ( and i quote)..."they did'nt use bombs, they did'nt use bullets. They melted people, they melted cars".

This seemed an amazing revalation to me and something people would pick up on. No one has followed it up. Of course it wouyld be standard that new weapons would be tested in Iraq.

As a side note...i rang the ABC to get a copy of the program. I also contacted the reporter Liz Jackson. She seemed disinterested in my comments on the possibility of exotic weapons being used in Iraq and strangely the ABC refused my request for a copy of the program stating that there were copyright issues? Whatever.

Interesting thread...

Thread Link (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=1546&forum=19&post_id=12410&PHPSESSID=c940a3c54704371e71a82ae193a54433#forumpo st12410)

Much work has to be done on understanding the effects of these types of weapons, army officials said. The US has had a classified directed-energy weapon for 20 years but it has never been used because commanders have been unsure what the effect on people would be, said Brigadier General Philip Coker, director of capabilities developments at the Futures Center, Training and Doctrine Command.

I cannot recommend "Janes Defence Weekly" enough. Like ALL "industry publications" they have to tell the truth.

09-01-2006, 09:16 PM
I think we could use them here. Especially the ones they use at malls to drive away the Teenos.

truebeliever
09-01-2006, 10:06 PM
US speeds development of non-lethal weapons

By JOSHUA KUCERA JDW Staff Reporter
Washington, DC

The US intends to field a vehicle-mounted non-lethal weapon within two or three years that would fire a high volume of projectiles a long distance.

The programme is still known as the Tactical Unmanned Ground Vehicle (TUGV) Non-Lethal Mission Payload Module because it was originally designed to fit on the US Marine Corps' Gladiator TUGV. However, observing the use of tactical robots in Afghanistan and Iraq has convinced service officials that their efforts would be better spent getting a vehicle-mounted weapon quickly rather than waiting for robot technology to develop.

The Joint Non-Lethal Weapons Directorate (JNLWD) is looking at integrating weapons like a 40 mm or 62 mm grenade dispenser or the Metal Storm high-speed electronic gun on to a Humvee, said Kevin Swenson, the directorate's acquisition division chief.

Soldiers and marines also want a short-range, high-volume, non-lethal weapon to be fielded quickly, Swenson said. Based on experiences in Kosovo, where US soldiers were confronted with angry crowds but only had single-shot M203 grenade launchers with which to shoot sting balls and sponge grenades, the JNLWD is developing a .60 calibre rubber ball munition for the Mk 19 machine gun, which would be able to fire 275-350 rounds per minute. It is intended to be used from 10 m to 50 m or more, Swenson said.

Link (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=1242&forum=23&post_id=9827&PHPSESSID=c940a3c54704371e71a82ae193a54433#forumpo st9827)

Tor
09-01-2006, 10:24 PM
The major problem with directed energy source weapons like lasers and microwaves has always been the power supply. Atmosphere will tend to attenuate a laser over distance rendering less then effective against hardened targets like tanks and APC's. The effects on humans is predictable. Permanent blindness and burns is not something the military needs as a reputation.
Airborne laser systems are somewhat more effective against Ballistic missle since the laser is fired in a more rareified atmosphere.

Electro-magnetic rail guns is something that probably wiil be fielded in the near future. Since they are recoiless and have extreremly high velocity, they are ideal at killing other tanks and APCS. Some reports that I have seen on the velocity of these is 4-5 mi/sec

truebeliever
09-01-2006, 10:38 PM
The major problem with directed energy source weapons like lasers and microwaves has always been the power supply. Atmosphere will tend to attenuate a laser over distance rendering less then effective against hardened targets like tanks and APC's. The effects on humans is predictable. Permanent blindness and burns is not something the military needs as a reputation.
Airborne laser systems are somewhat more effective against Ballistic missle since the laser is fired in a more rareified atmosphere.

Electro-magnetic rail guns is something that probably wiil be fielded in the near future. Since they are recoiless and have extreremly high velocity, they are ideal at killing other tanks and APCS. Some reports that I have seen on the velocity of these is 4-5 mi/sec

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

You are contributing.

I look forward to hearing more.

The rail guns are said to be planned for naval ships in the next ten years.

Have to go. Costing to much.

09-01-2006, 10:47 PM
Yes finally some real discussion. He even wrote it all himself.

55132
09-02-2006, 10:25 PM
You guys ever heard of "supercaptivation"?
Its a phenomenom that occurs when and object is propeled throught the water at speeds over 100 mph and a layer of oxygen or gas is covering the tip, to make it short this acts like a lubricant and increases the speed 5 fold, yes 500 mph under water.

The torpedo is said to be in the hands of china.russia and iran .These could render vulnerable if not useless any ocen going vessele and conventionall torpedo.

I wish i can send you a link but the articles on this have vanished from the web , if you do a search you just get forums talking about this.

I learned about this a couple o years ago while i was working on my mba because we had an "IT" professor who happend to be an marine engineer and new about the weapon .

A few years ago there where numerous sites that about this i wonder why?
SO if anyone has more info on this please post.


55132

Tor
09-03-2006, 04:09 AM
http://www.stratmag.com/issueMay-15/page02.htm

http://www.diodon349.com/Kursk-Memorial/Warpdrive_underwater.htm

http://www.popsci.com/popsci/technology/generaltechnology/de669aa138b84010vgnvcm1000004eecbccdrcrd.html

Interesting technology.American submarines can travel very fast. Their top speed is classified and some thinking is that they can outrun older style torpedos. This I believe is what led the Russians and Chinese to pursue this research.

The Russian submarine fleet is rusting away fro the most part. Just getting underway for them is quite the challenge. Chinese and Russian submariens are very noisy. Tom Clancy is dead on when he writes about that. So for them to get close enough to actually fire one of these super-caviation torpedoes is problematic.

truebeliever
09-06-2006, 12:40 AM
The torpedo is said to be in the hands of china.russia and iran .These could render vulnerable if not useless any ocen going vessele and conventionall torpedo.

I have some footage of it. Tested it recently for the Western Media.

You can see the trail for miles and it's hard to know how effective it could be. Certainly if launched from 10 miles at night it could cause problems.

09-06-2006, 12:10 PM
you can bet your grandmothers pussy that they were manufactured in tel aviv

truebeliever
09-07-2006, 01:28 AM
you can bet your grandmothers pussy that they were manufactured in tel aviv

No, it's well known Iran has a highly advanced home grown armaments industry.

They make nearly everything themselves.