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08-27-2007, 02:05 PM
The body of work an artist produces matters as it relates to the charts.

The music mobsters don't finance losers no matter what their body of work contains.

They didn't pay Springsteen millions of dollars over the next ten years not expecting to reap great reward from one of their biggest cash cows.

Like I've said, I'm sure it's written in his contract that this sum of money promised to him is based on sales; CD, tours and otherwise.

To the Springsteen fanatics, it seems to matter immensely as to where Springsteen rates in the charts.

For you not to understand why it matters to Springsteen fanatics, is for you not to comprehend that to THEM he is THE BOSS, he is their LEADER, he is their HERO.

A LEADER, a HERO and a BOSS, to THEM, requires popularity not only in the world they live in which is Bruceworld, but throughout the world.

They want everyone else to worship him as they do.

This validates their obsession with him.

Otherwise, they might just realize what FOOLS they are.

I'm sure, Springsteen, the media and music industry darling will be recognized in some form or fashion in order to remain upon his pedestal.

They can also say an album sold a whole lot more than it did, you know!

08-27-2007, 02:32 PM
It appears the "Unholy Bruce" thread is gone from BTX's Promised Land.

I thought I posted the link here, but I can't seem to find it.

I wonder why they deleted it?

Any thoughts?

I do hope there was some copy and paste going on in addition to what I've supplied here.

Not necessary, but preferable.

08-27-2007, 03:39 PM
As for Bruce Springsteen, whatever life delivers to him is his problem and not mine.

08-27-2007, 05:21 PM
Oh, look, here's an explanation as to whom Unholy Bruce was and why he and his thread have MAGICALLY disappeared.

I wonder why the site administrators allowed him to impersonate Springsteen. He certainly didn't show any respect toward Springsteen's wife and/or his fans. He spoke with a "potty mouth," foul-mouth. I wonder why none Springsteen's dedicated, protective fans notified the administration any sooner.

Usually when someone comes on the board and criticizes Springsteen's music or his wife, they attack them immediately.

Well, not so much when it comes to Patti's voice.

I guess this was different because Unholy Bruce wasn't attacking, his conversations for the most part were sexual with several references to his penis; description of one of Springsteen and Scialfa's sexual fantasies; how Patti has her pu**sy on lock-down.

One poster commented that he must have been horny all of the time during the Tunnel of Love tour.

He said, if she remembered correctly, they sang Adam Raised a Cain alot about his father and it wouldn't have been proper to have a stiffy.

He even mentioned Springsteen's son, Evan.

Takes alot of nerve, doesn't it, to come on the site of a famous musician and impersonate him? Would certainly open yourself up to a lawsuit.

I think Springsteen ought to call the guy out. Oh, but then again, I'm sure nothing Unholy Bruce said bothers THE MAN.

I mean, even MadMel, who attacks anyone without the same viewpoint as herself, was kissing Unholy Bruce's ar*e.

2Hearts, one of the monitors on the site, had several conversations with him as if he was completely normal. So, too, did This Train and MadMel.

They didn't seem alarmed at all that someone was impersonating Springsteen.

In fact, they seemed to embrace him as if he were Springsteen.

Or, was the impersonation so good that this Unholy Bruce character actually fooled his fans and those on the site who know Springsteen personally?

You know what I'm thinkin' without even speaking it.

They were even discussing with him the time he peed in his desk at school. He said the "mind garage" therapy didn't address that.

They concentrated on his "imposter syndrome," and parenting/relationship issues.


08-27-2007, 05:28 PM
Funny, isn't it?

They get so upset over the least little thing unBruce like, but someone comes on the site, impersonates their HERO, and it doesn't bother them in the least bit!

You would think this would have caused them emotional upset.

Certainly, they are very EMOTIONALLY attached to Springsteen.

But, nope!

Didn't happen.

Now, what are they going to do?

Have someone confess to it?

Like that would hold any credibility!

08-27-2007, 05:29 PM
I have copied the thread and placed it in my word file in case it disappears.

08-27-2007, 05:39 PM
The Tech team states, "only one username per person." Those are the rules.

So, posing as Springsteen was no problem.

The only problem was that this poster apparently had another username.

I guarantee you that in order to conduct the operation they conducted on Springsteen's official site and at BTX, the "players" can register with as many usernames as they desire.

Read the link I provided above.

One posters comments that since this poster had another username, does that mean Springsteen has been there all along.

Of course, his comment is ignored.

THEY LOVED UNHOLY BRUCE just like they LOVE and WORSHIP Springsteen.

They thought he was witty and funny!

I found him quite arrogant, rude, disgusting and full of himself. Kind of like Springsteen.

That comment he made about Clarence being old and thinkin' that one day he'd have to be picking his fu*kin' rottin' corpse off the stage was just odd.

Then there was the comment about a song that he didn't like, but that fu*kin' STEVE made him keep it.

His apparent obsession with Winona Ryder and how he and a million other men wanted to bone her.

08-27-2007, 05:41 PM
Oh, yes, how Patti has a Barney's card and he was too busy with Landau when People Magazine came to his house to shoot her for the article.

08-27-2007, 07:08 PM
There's a poster over at BTX giving instructions to the members on the Political Forum about how they should conduct their debates in order to stay above the fray and not stoop to name-calling, etc.

He calls himself, The Man, The Myth and the Legen..

Funny, the advice he's giving are to the posters who are the name-callers.

He says, blah, blah, blah, do this, that, this and that until YOU POSSESS THEM.


Possess them!

Who desires to possess another person?

You guessed it!

08-27-2007, 07:16 PM
Oh, look!

The cover-up begins with a thread, who got banned?

2Hearts who was having a normal conversation with Unholy Bruce (well, normal for their standards) has this to say:

Well, Q., I've had a few ideas since day one (i.e., the initial appearance of UB), as I'm sure others have. Who can be sure, though?

She had a few ideas about who he was since day one of his postings, but said nothing until now. She was too busy talking with him.

We could start a thread to unmask Unholy Bruce, but there's no sense putting additional pressure on the already fragile server. Not with the tour schedule due.

Oh, yes, I'm sure you could unmask Unholy Bruce and all the players would fill their roles in the process.

I'm not famous, but if someone was impersonating me, I'd certainly take action against them; specifically if they spoke of my spouse as Unholy Bruce did or my personal life.

Consider, too, that UB and the Patti character may have very well been one in the same, so if they're both gone due to multiple usernames, we still have no clue as to their true identities.

Oh, yes, the Patti character. Maybe that was one of Unholy Bruce's alters.

08-27-2007, 07:28 PM
Springsteen sounds constipated in that "Brilliant Disguise" video as he does most of the time when he sings.

Kind of like Patti's voice.

Grinding; grating; straining.

08-27-2007, 07:30 PM
Oh, my, 2Hearts says:

You saw the sticky from TTT earlier, right? Among other things, they said that some folks who had been previously banned were re-registering recently with the purpose of wreaking havoc. As a result, they cleared the decks today, so to speak.

Silly question, how can you tell if someone is banned? Via the memberlist?


Goodness! Folks have nothing better to do then aspiring to wreak havoc on the Springsteen site.

Well, now why would anyone want to wreak havoc on Springsteen.

He's a hero!

He is worshipped all over the world!

I just don't understand it!

08-27-2007, 07:33 PM
They must be looking for an escaped convict. There were noisy helicopters circling the neighborhood this eveing.

Haven't heard anything on the news!

08-27-2007, 07:37 PM
Yeah, Springsteen stole the music.

But, anyway, one poster says if "Radio Nowhere" is the worse song on the album his fans are going to be in for some magic.


What if it's the best song on the album?

Guess you're going to be in for a total failure.

08-27-2007, 07:43 PM
From BTX:

Oh, Look!

In today's Daily Nightly blog post, Brian wrote this:

"Speaking of which -- it’s been a while since we talked music in this space: I heard the new Springsteen single this weekend (“Radio Nowhere”) and liked it. It’s good old-fashioned, hard-driving E-Street band stuff."


Springsteen fans need validation from the outside world that they're not worshipping in vain.

On another note. Do radio stations not play much of Springsteen's songs because they SUCK or because it's some kind of a "psychological operation."

When something is rare, the more desirable it is for those who desire it.

You know, they get so excited if they're out and about in a grocery store, home depot, etc., and hear a Springsteen tune, they run to the board to report it.

They also sit around listening to the Bruce Brunch hour waiting on pins and needles to hear a song that they could play in their CD player.

I mentioned this before.

There's a station where you can call up, pay bucks and they play Springsteen.

The proceeds go to the "Food Bank" or whatever charitable organization he's connected with.

You know, you can donate without having your umbilical cord attached to Springsteen.

08-27-2007, 07:54 PM
Here are the auction prizes for a charitable event:

Mug printed with dice, RENO and the name BRUCE
Size Medium Ladies Tank-top Black with red embroidery (not printed - embroidered!) the words RENO and NV in a heart
Postcard showing the famous RENO landmarks
Setlist from my favorite show of the Devils and Dust tour Atlantic City New Jersey November 13, 2005
Backstage Pass for the November 13, 2005 show. (Now you know why it was my favorite show!)


Is this person serious?

A tank top with the words embroidered RENO and NV in a heart.


Because of his filthy, disgusting song RENO.

Who the hell would want that?

A postcard showing famous RENO landmarks!!

Yep! Gotta have that!

A setlist from her favorite Devils and Dust tour. (Can't you just get that on line). Oh, I see, it's her favorite show. That's special!

A backstage pass (Oh, she's been backstage. I see) from a 2005 show.

Yes, please. I gotta have that! A pass you used to go backstage and you think this is worth something to someone else. Oh, look, this is a pass that a BTX poster used to go bacstage at a 2005 Devils and Dust show and now I have it.

A mug with the name RENO and BRUCE on it.

Oh, yes, please!

That song, RENO, is just so AWESOME.

What's it about again?

Oh, yeah. Springsteen in a room with two hookers. Paying $250.00 for anal sex with one of them and while he's in the room with two women, he's thinking about another.

08-27-2007, 08:03 PM
MadMel says:

Whew! I was afraid we might be shut down for days instead of hours. Thanks to the heroic efforts of the TT for getting us back up and running. Heckuva time for someone to decide to go "postal" on us, huh?

Who went postal on them?

They were conversing with Unholy Bruce in a very pleasant manner.

He didn't distrub anyone in the least bit.

They loved his presence.

And, now this!

The cover-up begins!

Nothing unusual was occurring that they made mention about.

No one said, "hey, get this "Unholy Bruce" character off this site.

I've been watching.

No one went postal!

MadMel is playing pretend, as per usual.

She was drooling all over "Unholy Bruce." Even said she took her hat off to him at a show when he played something she liked.

08-27-2007, 08:11 PM
One poster asks if she was the only one who thought "Unholy Bruce" was creepy.

Appeared that way.

2Hearts says; now that he's gone and she's done conversing and drooling all over him:

Have you considered that his other username may have been the Patti character?

Shazz, he was obnoxious at times, clever at other times.

Obnoxious at times and clever at other times, 2Hearts says about "Unholy Bruce."

Disgusting, I might add.

Gee, 2Hearts. You just described some of Springsteen's characteristics. No wonder you conversed with him. You know what he's like and accept it!

Look, 2Hearts, anyone of Springsteen's posse' could find out who the user was in truth, but you'd never report that.

You like playing dumb for all intents and purposes.

So, yeah, let's consider the disinformation that "Unholy Bruce" was the Patti poster, too.

2Hearts doesn't refer to this Patti poster as a username.

She refers to the Patti poster as a "CHARACTER."

08-27-2007, 08:17 PM
Oh, yes. The rules at BTX preclude anyone from having more than one username, but it's okay to impersonate Springsteen.

08-27-2007, 09:02 PM
So, according to MadMel someone went postal at BTX, but judging from her latest post it wasn't "Unholy Bruce."

MadMel said:

Unholy Bruce added some much-needed levity around here - especially with the board going all wonky and everything.

Perhaps whoever it was will beg forgiveness and ask to come back - as Unholy Bruce ONLY!


If this person begs forgiveness to come back to BTX, he is desperate and pathetic. Your suggestion of such, MadMel, renders you desperate and pathetic for his return, as well.

If BTX allows a poster who is impersonating Bruce Springsteen to return only as Unholy Bruce, as MadMel has suggested, this renders them negligent.

Why would anyone beg forgiveness to return to a musician's internet forum?

Only those who are imprionsed there would know the answer to that question.

They are desperate and pathetic.

MadMel wants Unholy Bruce to beg forgiveness and return to BTX and continue to impersonate Springsteen.

Like I said.

Desperate and pathetic.

They think they spoke to the messiah.

08-28-2007, 02:51 PM
They're so excited because a particular radio station has been playing "Radio Nowhere" every couple of hours or so.

Ah, you could just listen to the free download that was provided.

This, signifies to the poster that the radio station supports Springsteen.

They need validation from the outside world as to the importance of this man's music because they live their lives through him. They are emotionally and psychologically attached to him. They are "mind control" victims in a sense. This is how they get you and keep you under their control/command.

Springsteen is the center of their universe. They have been isolated from the "real world." Thrust into a dream-like state and fairy-tale world that Springsteen has created for his "cult" followers.

Anyway, news for you, my lady, the radio stations don't support Springsteen or any other musician. They play what the music mobsters promote.

The music mobsters own Springsteen.

Remember, he's The Boss, a hero, a media darling.

They've been promoting him since day one.

He's a cash cow.

They've been milking him for decades.

And, Springsteen's been milking you!

08-28-2007, 02:56 PM
As I mentioned earlier, they're parrots.

Constantly starting threads, and commenting:

"Is Anybody Alive Out There."

Or, if this place doesn't settle down, it's gonna be like BTX Nowhere.

They converse using lines from his songs. Name themselves after his female/male characters.

It's Brucespeak, by golly!

08-28-2007, 06:10 PM
Yeah, MadMel, when I read what you wrote I couldn't stop laughing!!!!

Funny story: When Bruce did the Amnesty International tour, the promoter was Bill Graham (a nice Jewish boy). These were huge stadium shows. And the L.A. date? On Yom Kippur. They had to wait until sundown to start the show as a result. And we didn't get out of there until 2:30 in the morning!!!

Well, if your promoters and those who own you are JEWISH, you accomodate them and not your fans.

Springsteen is Jewish himself, isn't he?

So, too is Dylan.

What about Tom Petty?

Jackson Browne?

Are these their birth names?

08-28-2007, 06:20 PM
Men and Woman Dressed in Black.

Springsteen very often looks like he's three sheets to the wind and just rolled out of bed.

As per their usual MO, this poster comments that Patti looks great!

Yeah, from a distance and that outfit she's wearing what a knock-out!

She's all slumped over.

Springsteen is probably using her to hold himself up.


08-28-2007, 06:26 PM
Someone posted a quote from Springsteen when Chris, the site administrator spoke with him.

So, you have to wonder.

He didn't telephone Springsteen to report that there was a Bruce imposter on the site who talked about Patti and his sexual life with her and their son, Evan?

He didn't tell Springsteen that this imposter was discussing his songs and why they were written, what they meant, etc.?

He didn't tell Springsteen that this person was revealing information about his private and confidential psychiatric sessions?

If you're famous, wouldn't that make you a little apprehensive?

You know, there are some people who become obsessed FANS of a musician and turn into stalkers.

Or, in my case, it's the other way around.

08-28-2007, 07:15 PM
Oh, my.

They have all come out of the woodword to add, "Patti looks great," on the link I posted of the picture of Men and Woman in Black.

They are commenting on her high heels, what everyone in the band is wearing. Their sunglasses, etc.

Oh, look, Little Steven is wearing this; Clarence is wearing that.

Scialfa's married to Springsteen.

Can't get more disgusting than that!

They deserve each other.

08-28-2007, 07:53 PM
Gee, I dunno. What tricks will Springsteen pull out of his hat for this tour?

Possibly re-work some old songs?


Can't wait.

Someone on the BS.net site in a email once told me that he had alot of tricks up his sleeve.


Too bad they didn't work for you, eh?

08-28-2007, 07:54 PM
Maybe that ole' BLACK MAGIC just ain't what it use to be, eh?

08-28-2007, 08:36 PM
Why is it that on the cover of the single, "Radio Nowhere," they have a cell phone tower and not a radio relay tower?

Are Springsteen/Landau and Sony that stupid?

"bopping through the wild blue tryin' to make a connection with you."


What imagery.

Springsteen bopping through the wild blue!

Oh, yeah, right!

Yep, that line and that line alone is going to change music from this day forward.

08-28-2007, 09:16 PM
Oh, Springsteen's children are so excited!!

They heard this on the air in Chicago and they were stunned to hear this teaser:

"The boss is back and he's bringing his band."

Oh my goodness. Springsteen and the E Street Band haven't toured since 2003.

Lordy! It's been four LONG years!!!

What is a poor addicted fan to do?

One poster's MOM called to tell her/him that Santa Claus is coming to town. She/he says it's hitting mainstream news!


Forgoodness sakes!

You would think the threat of another terrorist attack, martial law, concentration camps, fascist Nazi regime, police state have all been put to rest cause Santa Claus is coming to town.

The Rising was the biggest grossing tour of any artist!

Give me a break!

They'll tell you anything they want about Springsteen and you'll swallow it. Hook, line and sinker.

Brainwashed fools!

08-28-2007, 09:30 PM
I guess you really have to be in the loop to be able to explain a Springsteen song that doesn't make any sense. Cause, you know, if someone asks about a Springsteen song, a poster has to explain it, otherwise, Springsteen would say:


That, because he doesn't want to tell you the truth about himself!

A poster asks about the song "Black Cowboys" from Devils and Dust and what is it about.

Another poster gives her opinion.

Lyrics to:

Black Cowboys
Bruce Springsteen

Rainey William's playground was THE MOTT HAVEN streets
Where he ran past melted candles and flower wreaths,
names and photos of the young black faces,
whose death and blood consecrated these places
Rainey's mother said "Rainey stay at my side
For you are my blessing, you are my pride.
It's your love here that keeps my soul alive
I want you to come home from school and stay inside."

Rainey'd do his work and put his books away.
There was a channel showed a Western movie everyday
LYNETTE brought him home books on the black cowboys of the Oklahoma range
AND the Seminole scouts that fought the tribes of the Great Plains.
Summer come and the days grew long,
Rainey always had his mother's smile to depend on.
Along A street of stray bullets he made his way
To the warmth of her arms at the end of each day.

Come the Fall, the rain flooded these homes in Ezekiel's valley of dry bones,
it fell hard and dark to the ground. It fell without a sound.
LYNETTE took up with a man whose business was the boulevard,
whose smile was fixed in a face that was never off guard
In the pipes 'neath the kitchen sink his secrets are kept
In the day, behind drawn curtains in LYNETTE'S bedroom he slept.

And she got lost in the days. The smile Rainey depended on dusted away.
The arms that held him were no more his HOME.
He lay at night his head pressed to her chest listening to the ghost in her bones.

In the kitchen, Rainey slipped his hand between the pipes
From a brown bag pulled five hundred dollar bills and stuck it in his coat side,
stood in the dark at his mother's bed, brushed her hair and kissed her eyes.

In the twilight Rainey walked to the station on streets of stone.
Through Pennsylvania and Ohio his train drifted on.
Through the small towns of Indiana the big train crept,
as he lay his head back on his seat and slept.
He woke and the towns gave way to muddy fields of green
Corn and cotton and endless nothing in between
Over the rutted hills of Oklahoma the red sun slipped and was gone
The moon rose and stripped the earth to its bone.


In her opinion, it is a cautionary tale. The story of a boy growing up with a single mom who is devoted to him. She won't let him play on the streets because of the danger there, instead bringing him home books and letting him watch movies about the black cowboys, I guess you would call them African American now, but when we were children they were Black.
Mom met a man who turned her on to drugs and suddenly their world was turned upside down, she loved the crack more than him, so he ran away after stealing the boyfriends money, which meant he could never go home.

It's tragic really. I always thought that this was part one. Part two is told when a man comes home and his mother doesn't recognize him. It's called "The Hitter."


Here are the lyrics to The Hitter:

The Hitter
Bruce Springsteen

Come to the door ma and unlock the chain.
Well I was just passin' through and got caught in the rain.
There's nothing that I want, nothin' that you need say.
Just let me lie down FOR a while and I'll be on my way.

I was no more than a kid when you put me on the Southern Queen.
With the police on my back I fled to New Orleans.
Well I fought in the dockyards for the the money that I made.
I knew the fight was my home and any blood was my trade.

Baton Rouge, Ponchatoula, and Lafayette town.
Well they payed me their money, ma, I knocked the men down.
Well I did what I did, yeah it come easily.
restraint and mercy, Ma,
were always strangers to me.

I fought champion Jack Thompson in a field full of mud.
Rain poured through the tent to the canvas and mixed with our blood.
In the twelfth, I slipped my tongue over my broken jaw.
I stood over him and
pounded his body into the floor.
Well the bell rang and rang and still I kept on.
'Til I felt my glove leather slip 'tween his skin and bone.

And the women and the money came fast and the days I lost track.
The women red, the money green, but the numbers were black.
I fought for the men in their silk suits to lay down their bets.
Well I took my good share, ma, I have no regrets.

I took the fix at the state armory with big John McDowell.
From high in the rafters I watched myself fall.
As they raised his arm, my stomach twisted, and the sky it went black.
I stuffed my bag with their good money, ma, and never looked back.
Understand, in the end, Ma, every man plays the game.
If you know me one different then speak out his name.

Ma, if my voice now you don't recognize.
Well just open the door and look into your dark eyes.
I ask of you nothin', not a kiss not a smile.
Just open the door and let me lie down for a while.

Now the gray rain is fallin' and my ring fightin's done.
So in the work fields and alleys, I take all who'll come.
If you're a better man than me then just step to the line.
Show me your money and speak out your crime.
Now there's nothin' I want, ma, nothin' that you need say.
Just let me lie for a while and I'll be on my way.

Well tonight in Stockyard, a man draws a circle in the dirt.
I move to the center and take off my shirt.
I study him for the cuts, the scars, the pain, Man nor time can erase.
I move hard to the left and I strike



Part two!

Oh, yes, I definitely see how they're connected.

08-28-2007, 10:16 PM
It's funny, isn't it?

How Springsteen clings to Patti Scialfa to define his heterosexuality when, truth be told, he is a sexual deviant.

His lyrics tell us so and I know so!

Funny, too, how they think I would be jealous of Patti Scialfa because she's with Springsteen and I'm not.

THANK GOD! He's a sadistic pig!

He couldn't hold a candle to my husband.

They began this operation shortly after they thought they had sucked me back into the cult, ruined my life, my marrige and that all I wanted was to be with Springsteen.

Who in their right mind would want to be with a sadistic pig?

A mind control victim?

A gold digger who will put up with anything.

A sexual deviant, too?

It's all a FRONT!

I didn't desire it then and risked my life to escape him and certainly don't desire it now or EVER!

Afterall, Scialfa is known as "Parking Lot" Patti and Springsteen, well, we all know what he's about.

Like I said, they deserve each other.

Do you think he could go shopping with her at Barney's and maybe pick out a SEXY outfit?

Those black men's suits she wears are so unattractive.

08-28-2007, 10:24 PM

IN a sign of the times, Bruce Springsteen is giving away his long-awaited new single Radio Nowhere to his fans.

With many major rock artists struggling to achieve radio airplay, the Boss decided to give the song directly to fans so they could make up their own minds.

Radio Nowhere, exclusively available to The Daily Telegraph readers today, introduces fans to his new album Magic, which is released on September 29.

Springsteen is set to provoke a fierce bidding war among local concert promoters to secure his next Australian tour, expected to hit our shores in 2008. Radio Nowhere marks a return to Springsteen's earlier anthemic sound.


What major rock artists are struggling to achieve radio airplay?

They're not struggling.

The music mobsters produce what they want played.

Rock 'n' Roll died a long time ago and was replaced by more filth.

This article says Springsteen returns to his earlier anthemic sound.

What earlier anthemic sound?

Sex with little girls?

08-28-2007, 10:34 PM
Springsteen isn't a working class hero because his ticket prices are lower than other acts.

He's not a working class, hero, period.

Nor is he a hero!

Only in the eyes of his brainwashed fans.

His diehard fans and those who aren't, either can't afford to pay bigger bucks or just wouldn't.

He and his promoters know this.

That's the reason ticket prices are low and not because he's wants to make it affordable for his fans.

He and his handlers don't want an empty venue.

If they did, they'd raise the prices.

This is the only way he collects the revenue he needs to in order to satisfy his contract.

Multiple shows in the same city with cheap ticket prices and his diehard fans attend several shows.

He doesn't have a very large fan base to draw from. He depends upon fans seeing multiple shows.

Other artists charge higher fares and do one night only and attract a larger audience.

But, you diehards, you fly or drive around the country to see multiple shows and drain your bank accounts in the process.

Springsteen thanks you on his way to the bank.

08-28-2007, 10:56 PM
Soozie isn't considered part of "The E Street Band," although she's been touring with them for five years, because that's how Springsteen acknowledges those who assist him in his musical career.

He doesn't.

It's always Bruce Springseen on the cover of a CD even if "The E Street Band" is playing on it. That's in part because the music mobsters break-up the band even though the front man became famous playing with them.

It's a tactic. I've written about this before.

This, so they don't have to pay them the big bucks. The front man is noe famous; goes out on his own; satisfies the music mobsters as a solo act, but they make even bigger bucks with reunion tours.

If they kept them together, the desire would not be as great.

Someone said Scaifa was considered a part of the band in 84 before she was Springsteen's love interest and the first tour with them as a couple was the reunion tour.

How many reunion tours have they had?


Separate and get back together and the fans just love it don't they?

Marriage, divorce, marriage, divorce and the children run to their side to see Daddy Springsteen and Mommy Scialfa.

The Boss and Boss Lady of Rock 'n' Roll.

08-29-2007, 08:03 AM
The children are excited because a Bruce fan saw him coming out of Gold's gym and this signifies that he's working out.

But, this poster needed clarification.

Was it a one time thing or several times a week?

You know, they want him to be fit and in shape for the tour.

They're so concerned about their hero's physical appearance and emotional state of mind.

Tied to the hip; like a button on his shirt.

So, he went inside Gold's gym and asked one of the employees how many times Springsteen works out at the gym.

At least four times a week.

This is exciting news for his fans.

08-29-2007, 08:07 AM
Oh, look, one poster thought the story about the gym (it was a long, boring dissertation about Springsteen working out, so I summarized) was a COOL story.

Yeah, very cool.

Springsteen working out at a gym.

How odd!

Another poster adds:

Bruce most hold memberships to a few gyms in Monmouth County. He has been spotted at two gyms in my area regularly (I won't post the names of gyms to respect his privacy). Usually he is there right when they open in the early a.m. before most people are out of bed.

As for Little Steven, I'll come to his defense. A co-worker of mine sees him in her Manhattan gym regularly. She is not a fan and was wondering who the dude working out in bandana, beads etc was. Her trainer told her that's Steve Van Zandt. She still didn't know him until her trainer said "Silvio" from the Sopranos. The trainer then told her he was working out to get in shape for a "soon to be announced E Street tour".


My goodness, someone didn't know who Van Zandt was?


You mean, he works out too, and Springsteen holds several memberships at a few gyms!

Equally as incredible!

08-29-2007, 08:11 AM
Sorry, but backstreets isn't respectable.

Only in the eyes of the posters who live and operate within.

No one else even knows it exists.

08-29-2007, 08:14 AM
Apparently, BTX's server couldn't handle all the traffic, so they shut down the Political World as far as posting is concerned.

High ranking members were advising posters to delete their personal messages and, perhaps emails, too.

08-29-2007, 08:55 AM
Doc Holiday, whom I believe was a musician back in the day, posts at BTX:

He says, "Looks like the boy is pulling out all the stops on this release. Here is an e-mail I got from one of my distributors this morning.Hey Doc, this was in the Digital Music News letter this morning. Just thought I’d share!

Why is it that Springsteen is referred to as OUR BOY and the BOY. I assume he's in a child-like state, too!

Springsteen Announces Tour, Album, Spins Freebie Download

Bruce Springsteen is now planning a major tour and album release, and spinning a gratis download to spark excitement. The album, Magic, is slated for release on October 2nd, and is already being teased exclusively on the iTunes Store. The free single, "Radio Nowhere," is also available on iTunes. There, fans can pre-purchase the album download for an attractive $8.99, though concert tickets may be less wallet-friendly.

WOW! Low ticket prices and now a pre-purchase being offered as a download for $8.99. Yep. That's pulling out all the stops alright. It's called marketing and, apparently, they have to pull out all these stops, because, otherwise, his diehard fans may not pay higher ticket prices because they're working class and others who have a slight interest in seeing a show might attend at those prices. But, again, it's those diehards who fly and drive to multiple shows because of the low ticket prices.

As far as the CD, it's called promoting for the upcoming release. Hopefully, it will help with CD sales, is what they're thinking.

The multi-continental tour starts October 2nd in Hartford, Connecticut, and winds throughout North America and Europe before a finale in London on December 19th. Springsteen is touring with the E Street Band, which is also part of the latest release. Magic is the first Springsteen release with E Street since 2002, when the ensemble grabbed a Grammy on The Rising.

Story by news analyst Alexandra Osorio.

08-29-2007, 11:08 AM

Take Note:

Doom and gloom

Federal Case

Pulling out all the stops

No surrender, no retreat

Get with the times

Is there anybody alive out there?

Piss or get off the pot

08-29-2007, 11:20 AM
Springsteen doesn't throw Sony and his fans a bone when he produces a rock record because you think his heart is really into folksy and/or pop music.

Sony owns Springsteen.

He has a contractual obligation to fulfill.

He probably produces CD's and tours more than any other artist.

Well, DYLAN, another cash cow, seems to be on a perpetual tour, but he doesn't attract large audiences outside of the US or inside for that matter.

It doesn't matter what Springsteen sings when touring either solo, with the E Street Band or another backing band; what type of music he releases on a CD, as long as he is pulling in the bucks for his handlers/controllers/owners.

Add re-masters, re-releases, re-worked, DVD's of live shows to the pot.

08-29-2007, 02:57 PM
Breaking and Earth Shattering News:

A Bruce Springsteen song, "Radio Nowhere" was played at the Phillies game the other night.

The posters have determined that the radio programmer at the Phillie's games must be a very BIG BRUCE FAN!!

They've heard some of his other songs played, too, over the years.

Very unusual that they play a singer/songwriter's songs on the radio and sporting events, isn't it?

08-29-2007, 03:27 PM
Ladie's Picture Thread at BTX.

I was looking through it to find something which I haven't found yet, but I noticed two things that I wanted to share.

On Page 3, under post of August 23, 2007 at 3:57 P.M. the first picture of Springsteen does not look like him!!

On Page 4, under post of August 23, 2007 at 4:42 P.M., the picture of Springsteen underneath the words "Thank you MacDonald," bears such a resemblance of my father that it's somewhat creepy.

The side profile, that is!


08-29-2007, 04:00 PM
I guess they removed the original picture thread. There was some reference to a poster whom made comments on it and they thought, perhaps, he was Springsteen.

That was the reason I was looking throught it and realized what I was looking through was a duplicate thread that replaced the original.

The get the mop comments and sexual conversations do not appear on this new picture thread.

I did post the original link somewhere on this thread.

Wonder if it is still here and if it can be accessed.

08-29-2007, 04:28 PM
Interesting thread on how the Bruce fanatics convince their spouses to allow them to travel around the world following their "cult" leader.


08-29-2007, 08:11 PM

These Bruce fanatics have been under the impression for all of these decdades that Springsteen's music was going to or had changed the world.

How pathetic!

The only thing it changes is their state of consciousness.

One poster says:

So what if this CD doesn't change the world?

What if the worst thing that happens is that this music sounds great live?

Would that be so bad?

How sad!

Does this poster actually think that Springsteen has done anything to change the world for the better with his music or that this CD is going to magically change the world as the title of the album suggests?


In his/her child-like state, she/he thinks that Springsteen is a hero and a blue-collar worker, too!!!

08-29-2007, 08:28 PM
Here's how it's done, folks!

According to MadMel:

Not this time, I'm afraid. Because things got messed up with fan-run lines toward the end of the first leg of The Rising tour, they decided to institute random lotteries.

As I understand it, they are going to use a computerized method this time around. If you have a GA ticket, it will be scanned and the computer will either say "Proceed to the pit" or "Sorry!" So that eliminates the need to hang out all day at the venue on the day of the show. But it also offers zero guarantees of getting into the pit. The morning of the show, they'll pass out numbered wristbands. At about 5 p.m that evening, a number will be announced and everyone will line up behind the person with the starting number. But . . . being first in line does NOT guarantee a spot at the stage or even a spot in the pit.


Geez, THE MAN produces such anxiety in his fans. Not good. I'd bail if I were all of you. Anxiety causes stress. Springsteen's just a hack.

Numbered wristbands!

How old are these people?

Oh, we already know.

Elementary school age, but in adult bodies.

08-29-2007, 08:57 PM
GAWD, the anxiety these Springseen fanatics put themselves through for him.

If Springsteen makes the ticket process so easy, why does it appear so difficult according to the posters at BTX.

The tour dates announced don't seem to correspond with what's posted at Ticketmaster.

Ticket are for sale on ebay when they haven't yet been on sale at Ticketmaster.

Wrist bands, waiting at the venue all day; ticket drops.

Geez, it almost seems like Springsteen enjoys screwing with his fan's emotional state of mind.

08-29-2007, 09:02 PM
They're looking at pictures of Springsteen from 30 years ago and commenting on how sexy he is.

Apparently, they don't live in the present.

THE MAN isn't sexy.

You're just under his spell.

He's disgusting!

08-29-2007, 09:03 PM
Something about how Springsteen was the son my father never had.

08-29-2007, 09:06 PM
Scratch that!

08-29-2007, 11:50 PM
Oh, GOD forbid Springseen endures a distraction during one of his shows, he might tell the audience to STFU!

Please, no cell phone camera flashes.

It's a distraction to Bruce, according to MadMel.

He has a hard time concentrating.


You wouldn't want to distract him.

Just sit in your seat and behave like a good little slave.

08-30-2007, 12:00 AM
One poster asks:

So does Bruce think of people like me when he writes his songs?


Oh yeah, he's never met you, has no clue, but he thinks of people like you.

What kind of people are you?

Just like him?

You've been waiting for something great to happen and you think Springsten has been saving it for the live performances.

What do you think is going to happen?

Something great?

You're going to hear some music.

Nothing incredible.

He calls our for the guitars in the lyrics?

Hope it's not his guitar or Patti's.

Of course not.

But do those who play the guitar get billing?

No way.

Oh, yeah, Max's guitar.

Well, it certainly wouldn't be Springseen's guitar solo.

Dramatics is his fortay.

The guitar isn't.

He can barely play it. Just like his lesser half.

Springsten doesn't turn any song into a masterpiece.

08-30-2007, 07:37 PM
I clicked on a youtube video of Springsteen's "Radio Nowhere."

As the song is playing there is a slide show of him through the years with his wife, Patti.

I'm thinking to myself.

Do they think they've just received a "life time achievement" award?

The song has absolutely nothing to do with Springsteen's marriage to Patti unless he's bopping through the wild blue tryin' to make a connection with her, or his life, yet we're viewing a slide show of the King and Queen of Rock 'n' Roll.

Talk about self-obsession.

As if anyone cares except them!

08-30-2007, 08:33 PM
Excuse me, but Bruce Springsteen has worn the label as a "working class hero" and "local hero" for decades without any resistance or rebellion.

Obviously, he has no problem with being a fraud!

He sings about the working class and has attracted the working class as his fans who think he represents them; therefore HE is their hero.

He lives in New Jersey; therefore, he is Jersey's local hero.

Obviously, he hasn't accomplished anything that would make him worthy of HERO status.

However, he doesn't mind at all being referred to as the same.

Remember, he said in his own words:

Funny, a rich man in poor man's clothes.

Yeah, ain't it funny?

Someday, you'll look back on all this and I pretty much guarantee, you won't be laughing.

08-30-2007, 08:42 PM
Bon Jovi a Springsteen wannabe?

Well, first of all, he'd have to sing about sexually deviant behavior and about oral sex with his wife while she's on stage with him or ramrodding or on the prowl for a while child or about Mary, or Wendy, or Janey, or Rosie, etc., etc., etc. or Reno and $250.00 up the ar*se?

Does he do that?

Nah, I don't think he's a Sprinsteen wannabe. In fact, he had a violin player long before Springsteen did.

Maybe Springsteen is a Bon Jovi wannabee.

Afterall, the females are crazy about him!

Very sexy!

Not that I respect him in any shape or form.

08-30-2007, 08:48 PM
This is humorous.

A poster begins a thread about how he is panicing because he is traveling from Texas to Philadelphia for a show and is freaking out thinking he won't be able to get tickets.

He's scared, frightened, etc.

He might strangle something!

He's looking to the "elders" on the site to help calm the anxiety they create.


Exactly what sadistic pigs are about.

These people are so desperate, it is truly sad.

Anyway, another poster responds:

Freaking out? Pre-panic? So afraid? You seriously need to knock it off.

08-30-2007, 08:59 PM
One poster writes:

I somehow doubt his tours are geared toward the political leaning of states.


Gee, I thought maybe they were.

But, then again, wouldn't they be geared toward the areas where he draws the most "followers."


One poster actually believes that if Springsteen's tours were geared toward the political leaning of states, it would be hilarious because that would be some sweet payback for the last election.


This fanatic actually believes that if Springsteen played in states that were what, RED, it would be payback for the last election.

Oh, yeah, just like Springsteen's participation in the "Vote for Change" tour affected a CHANGE! or his campaigning with Kerry in OHIO affected a change.

Nothing Springsteen does affects a change in the world.

The only change Springsteen affects is in his "brainwashed" followers.

Again, they believe THE MAN has some kind of political clout.

Just they same as they believe he's a working class hero, a local hero and THE BOSS of anyone other than his "mind controlled" fans.

08-30-2007, 09:14 PM
Does the picture of Springsteen on the third post of this link look like the same person on the cover of the "Magic" CD?

I have to find the MAGIC picture and edit to post it on this link.


Here is the picture of Springsteen on the cover of the "Magic" CD.


I really need to learn photoshop. I want to see these two pictures outside of the links.

His hair has definitely been growing. It's hard to diferentiate because of the shadow in the "Magic" photo, but I'm feeling that these two Springsteen's are not one in the same.

I don't know if the hair growth alone is the reason that there seems to be an age difference in both photos when clearly the first photo is recent and the second recent, as well.

So, what leads me to believe they are not the same person?

Like I said, further examination using photoshop is warranted.

08-30-2007, 09:22 PM
Here's the link to the original "picture thread."

"How can a poor fan stand such pictures and live."


08-30-2007, 09:39 PM
He must be wearing a piece.

How can your receeding foreline grow so much hair over such a short period of time?

Is it MAGIC???

Look at pictures of Springsteen from the recent Seeger Sessions tour.

Clearly, Springsteen is wearing a piece or the picture of him on the "Magic CD" is not the same person in post number three of the link I provided above.

What male do you know who was balding and received hair transplants was as successful as you see in these pictures of Springsteen?

Maybe he ought to tell everyone about his magical hairdresser.

08-31-2007, 08:17 AM
Does anyone know what this is about?

A TICKET CALL DROP for Springsteen shows.

Sounds like another anxiety, panic-producing tactic.

Any other musicians sell tickets to their shows in this manner?


08-31-2007, 08:21 AM
Dave Letterman just introduced his guest Hillary Clinton as a Senator from the great state of NY and a democratic candidate for President while Paul Schaefer and band played a snippet from Born to Run.


Well, that certainly isn't very complimentary.

08-31-2007, 11:32 AM
Oh, yeah, Springsteen gave his fans a "special gift" when instead of paying 99 cents for the "Radio Nowhere" single from itunes, it was FREE!

He saved you a whole buck!

Not like this is a promotional gig either, right?

08-31-2007, 11:47 AM
One poster comments that Springsteen gave away the single, "Radio Nowhere" because he's sitting on 800 billion dollars.

Oh, yeah, right!

If he were sitting on 800 billion dollars, how come he wasn't listed on Forbes' most wealthiest and/or as one of the world's billionaires?

If Springsteen is sitting on 800 billion dollars why then does the record label own him?

Certainly, with this amount of money he could break his ties with the record label (not allowed); and produce his material through his own record label.

Springsteen definitely isn't sitting on 800 billion dollars.

If he were, why then did he just sign a hefty 10 year contract with the record label that owns him and continue to produce CD's and tour year after year after year for them.


Cause he ain't sittin' on 800 billion dollars and he's not FREE!

He's a slave and cash cow to his masters!

08-31-2007, 11:50 AM
If Springsteen is sittin' on 800 billion dollars and he's so in tune with the poor man's plight, why doesn't he give a heft amount to a worthy cause?

Cause he ain't sittin' on 800 billion dollars and he most probably doesn't have control over his money, either.

They own him.

Lock, stock and barrel.

Just as they own his music!

Afterall, they MADE HIM what he is; he owes them and that ain't anything to write home about.

08-31-2007, 02:52 PM
Oh my, the sexual deviant, mind controller, abuser, handler and sadistic pig, Bruce Springsteen and the "E Street Band" will be performing on the Plaza in New York for the Today show on September 28.

I'll be sure to miss that one.

This will be the rock legend's first appearance on the PLAZA!!


I think the earth might just stop spinning on it's axis that day.

So, Matt, does a little biography of Springsteen and says he sings about the Heartland.

Ah, Matt, try reading some of the lyrics to his songs, if you can understand them.

Obviously, you don't listen to his music. You're just doing your job in helping to promote his upcoming CD and tour.

He sings about sexual deviant behavior, his lust for "little girls," about oral sex with his wife, threesomes in Reno paying $250.00 up the ar*se and many of his lyrics come from his alter personalities.

He sings about homosexuality, as well.

Yep, Springsteen did say he was going to make it big someday and he certainly did.

He was promised fortune and fame in exchange for selling his soul to the devil.

Here's the link:


I heard that when Katie Couric was introducting the band in 2002, she didn't know Max's name.


I'm sure Katie and Matt are devoted Springsteen followers.

Didn't they do any research or did they just not find this a very interesting piece of earth-shattering news and could have cared less?

The latter!

It's all media hype!

08-31-2007, 03:00 PM
"Rock 'n' Roll, it changed my life. It was like the voice of America, the real voice of America coming into your home...."

Bruce Springsteen quote.

Yeah, I'll say it changed your life, alright.

Yep! Rock 'n' Roll is the real voice of America with all those sexual deviant lyrics you include in your non-sensical songs.

It just changed the world for the better didn't it and Springsteen, well, he played a part in that?


The Man, The Myth, The Legend!

Where would this world be without him?

What a fraud with a lot of help from the media.


Because he's one of THEM!

08-31-2007, 03:10 PM
Patti Scialfa is constantly defending herself musically by stating she's overshadowed by Springsteen and rabid Springsteen fans do the same.

Most people; however, believe Scialfa's name wouldn't be known in the music industry or publicly if she weren't married to Springsteen.


One of the women standing with Matt while he was talking about Springsteen and "The E Street Band" performing on the Plaza in September mentioned that Springsteen's wife would be there.


She's a part of the band. Plays such an instrumental role in various ways.

Anyway, the woman refers to Springsteen's wife as Patti Davis.

Just goes to show, even if you're married to Springsteen, some of the most well-informed don't even know your name.

08-31-2007, 04:12 PM
If Springsteen released a CD from every concert on his tour then there wouldn't be such sought after bootleg recordings which makes it all the much more precious to his devoted "followers."

All the much more sought after.

All the more connected to one another.

Like children comparing what presents they received for Christmas.

Behind everything, there is a reason!

08-31-2007, 04:17 PM
So, the poster's username is BobbyJean and HE IS A MALE.

Again, BobbyJean is a Springsteen song.

Look at the spelling of Bobby.

Yeah, males always use female usernames when they register at a site.

Anyway, the topic of discussion which should keep the children occupied until some more fantastic Bruce news arrives:

Pick just one.

One Bruce concert moment where you were just floored. The one moment where it hit you, where you pumped you fist with the pride only being a Bruce fan can give you. Although I firmly believe that ESt is the best way to see Bruce, this one moment occurred for me during the Devils and Dust tour. I grew up in Long Island. I was very lucky. I was popular, had a great time, and left a pretty cool reputation behind me when I left three years ago for a beutiful Jersey Girl. Our life is great and I wouldnt trade it for anything, but home is home. When Bruce played the Nassau Colliseum in October 05, I handt been home in almost a year. My fiance and I drove home to take my 82 year old grandmother out to see Bruce. I sat between my two favorite women and just soaked in the vibe from the building that brought me so many memories. Bruce opened with Stolen Car which left me stunned. I knew it was gonna be a great ride and hell, I was back home. Midway through the set, he began to make the worst sound I may have ever heard. It was at the piano, and it was really high pitched squeal, like Bruce Lee with appendicitis. I started laughing when, like he always does, shifted my emotions completley, when he broke into MY HOMETOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My first time hearing it!!!!!!!!!!!! Home!!!!!!!!!!!! with my two favorite people. This is one night after being reuntied with so many of my friends that I missed so badly. My Hometown. Like he knew HAhahahahahaha. It was a a moment that surged through my veins and fucked up my head so much. I didnt know wheather to laugh or cry and wound up doing both. I have a few of those stories, and I KNOW I'll have a few


This poster admits Bruce f*cks up his head.

Obviously, Springsteen has emotional issues and seems to me most of those who post at BTX have emotional issues, too.

You're wrapped up in Springsteen's pain.

Emotionally co-dependent.

08-31-2007, 04:29 PM
One poster says that he doesn't care for Patti's involvement in the E Street Band; standing there for several hours with an unplugged guitar, but he happens to know that she's a great mother.


Unless you know Patti or Springsteen personally; live in their house, you are not qualified to make this statement.

Another posters says that Springsteen is always apologizing to Scialfa for his behavior on stage.


At a live show, he makes apologies to Scialfa for what behavior?

Another poster thinks Scialfa is extremely talented, (yeah, that's why as a solo artist she's not successful and criticized for her role in the E Street Band) deserving of a wider audience.

If she were deserving of a wider audience, it would be because she was extremely talented. Which she isn't. Hence, the reason she doesn't have a wider audience.

Springsteen affords her time in the spotlight to a very limited degree.

Maybe there's a reason for this.

Maybe he cringes when she sings, too.

She's a useful idiot.

If she were extremely talented, she would have been discovered thirty or more years ago and not in her 50's.

Bring 'em Home posts a link to Patti's "Looking for Elvis" video, but the accompanying picture of Scialfa is like 30 years old.

08-31-2007, 05:26 PM
Since Springsteen wasn't on the Forbes' list of the wealthiest, nor is he a billionaire, one of his fans needs to know:

Just to fill my curiosity, does anybody have a list of the richest American musicians?

So, now, they're trying to fit Springsteen into a list of the richest American musicians. I guess it fulfills their illusion of him being powerful, if he is RICH. Since he is their leader, the more status for Springsteen, the better they feel about themselves. Like I said, the record labels own their slaves, their money, their music. Something tells me Patti Scialfa just might have been around back in the days of my childhood when I was a Monarch slave.

Since the Reunion Tour, Bruce has been among the better paid musician almost every year. And if we add the 25 previous years + the 100 millions $ contract + the next tour that might break all his previous records, if Bruce is not the richest, who could it be???

Note: Before you answer "Who cares?", I'd like to remind you that this is only to fill my curiosity.


Who cares!!

Although, as I've stated, the record labels own their slaves, their music, their money, how 'bout, Paul McCartney, Madonna, Rolling Stones, Prince, etc.

They were on the list of the wealthiest people in the world and other musicians, as well.

But, not your beloved Springsteen.

08-31-2007, 05:28 PM
So, Springsteen's ticket prices are much less expensive than other musicians because he really cares about his fans or people wouldn't spend more money to see him in concert!

The latter!

08-31-2007, 05:40 PM
I was fed disinformation to a certain degree, on Springsteen's site that I had an alter by the name of Patti who was evil and responsible for cutting up the baby I supposedly had with him.

Inotherwords, this is what is referred to as twinning.

A good Patti and an evil Patti.

One or more the personalities that the controllers create has a good side and a bad side.

They split the personality in two.

Triggers can cause a psychotic break, from pleasant personality, to anger, destructive, violent, etc.

So, in this sense, the core is not aware of what they may have been doing to themselves or others.

I WAS ALWAYS TOLD BY MY PROTECTORS that I didn't have a mean bone in my body.

They did all they could with repetition to protect me from myself and my abusers; to deprogram me the best they could when I would report to them.

I'm not sure I believe this part about the twinning. It may be disinformation to go along with the BABY story.

As I've stated, I had a double. When I first awoke, I began to think I had actually had a twin sister who died at birth and also, that some of the pictures of me in elementary school, were not me at all.

I was told that the doppleganger who was in my neighborhood upon my awakening and people were reporting they saw me here and there; even my son at one point, was to make it appear that I had switched and was unaware of my daily activities. This doppleganger was driving the same make, model, color car as me with the exact same dent in the bumper.

This occurred when I was a child, too. I remember being told I was seen here or there when I knew that I hadn't been.

A tactic as well to make one think they are "crazy."

Could a double have been used to replace me in school when I was taken elsewhere?

Don't know.

If I reported that I didn't stay in school; that they took me elsewhere then it could be said that the teachers saw me in school, etc.

Again, a tactic to cause a young child not to be believed. Looked upon as a liar and not trusting your own mind.

Springsteen could also have a double.

Patti Scialfa and I are similar looking with red-hair and about the same age.

Just something that I'm pondering.

Dopplegangers are also used to discredit witnesses.

08-31-2007, 07:26 PM
For American musicians in 2005-2006, Springsteen ranked #11 on the Forbes chart for the wealthiest musicians.

That's number 11 folks. Not number ONE!

To all his desperate fans.


In a one year time period, he dropped from #11 to a big ZERO!

08-31-2007, 07:36 PM
Well, since Springsteen isn't a billionaire or one of the 100 wealthiest people in the world and only ranked number 11 on the Forbes 2005/2006 wealthiest musicians, but apparently dropped off the radar completely for 2006/2007, they want to know the largest crowd he's played for.

Grasping at straws.

He just has to be on the top of someone's list to validate their "insane" obsession with him.

That's pathetic in and of itself.

Speaks volumes of their character.

In my book, you admire someone for what they are and not what you wish they would be.

In my book, admiration for someone is not judged as to how much fortune and fame they have.

In Springsteen's fan's "Book of Dreams," that's how they measure their worth; according to Springsteen's popularity and wealth.

He's been singing to them about dreams for so long, that's what their life has become.

One big dream/illusion built around him.

If their "leader" is at least one of the wealthiest musicians...

If their leader has played to the largest crowd....

Then this validates their "insane" obsession with him.

08-31-2007, 07:40 PM

When the lyrics were released for "Radio Nowhere," fans were questioning the line, "dirt dial."

A poll was started.

Which is it?

Dirt dial, dead dial, etc., etc.

Who cares?

As usual, one line in "Radio Nowhere" is about having been in a dark hole.

Where else could you imagine this man?

On a bright, sunny beach singing about happiness?

08-31-2007, 07:46 PM
One poster is jealous because Patti is 50 something and, according to this poster, looks great!!


As if Patti Scialfa is the only female in her 50's who this person thinks looks great.

08-31-2007, 07:49 PM
I guess their incessant use of smiley faces and emoticons are for the reading impaired or perhaps they're verbally challenged.

08-31-2007, 07:52 PM
Who does Springsteen have his lips locked with in the post by PAC on this page?

Is that Clarence?


08-31-2007, 08:20 PM
Okay, so someone will have to watch Springsteen and the "E Street Band" perform on the Plaza and let me know if the crowd is what the BTX'ers seem to think it will be.

Thinking people are going to be driving from all over the place to see this.

One poster LOVES all the attention and hype surrounding Bruce and E Street once again.

Why would you care?

Don't you have anything better to do with your life then relish in someone else's?

I'm trying to figure this out.

Is he a player or a serious fanatic?

I don't know.

It's just strange.

Obviously, they think that playing on the Plaza will illicit worldly attention and all eyes are going to fixed on the television set to view the King and Queen of Rock 'n' Roll.

Ten minutes or so and then it's all over.

Again, if their leader receives attention from outside the cult, I guess it validates their "insane" obsession.

Anyway, Matt referred to Springsteen's music as "heartland."

I've already ranted about that.

Kate Couric referred to Max Weinberg as Max "Weinberger" during her interview back in 2002 and to Patti as "ScalfIA."

I guess Springsteen needs to play the Plaza cause Bon Jovi did back in June.

One poster comments:

The Bon Jovi show at the end of June was supposedly the largest they ever had. And not that we aren't diehards here, but the Bon Jovettes are CRAZY. Started sleeping out like the night before-and barely any of them got in; the middle was almost all reserved for VIPs, penned into little pit like sections. the very back was for the first ones who got there...everyone else overflowed way back up to the 50s. It was lunacy.

One poster hopes there more professionalism on the 28th when they play the plaza, referring to the mistakes, because it's such a big thing.

For who?


Obviously, not for Matt or the rest of the crew. Apparently, they don't pay any attention to Bruce Springsteen, his music, his wife, or the E Street Band.

One poster believes the following:

It's going to be completely and utterly insane there. That area around the stage is small, and yes, people will have to camp out all night if they want any hope of being within a distance where they can see the band. I love seeing Bruce live, but there is no way I'd wait all night there to see him play two or three songs. But I can't wait to hear the strories of people who do.

They should have done it via remote from AP again.

They are so excited when their LEADER receives attention.

08-31-2007, 08:30 PM
All this cheering by the fanatics for Springsteen and Scialfa makes you wonder if they really think that they're both losers.

Billboard says:

Patti Scialfa, “Play It as It Lays” (Columbia Records)

It’s to Patti Scialfa’s considerable credit that she’s launched a potent solo career in the shadow of husband Bruce Springsteen, and in doing so has not tried to chase after anything but the mature kind of music she naturally makes. The Garden State native is at heart a Greenwich Village troubadour with a soul of ... well, soul, the classic variety from Memphis as distilled by scores of Jersey shore joints. “Play It As It Lays” is Scialfa’s third and most accomplished solo album. She makes her sources clear on the Chiffons-referencing “Like Any Woman Would,” the “Sally Go Round the Roses” snippet in “The Word” and the Janis Ian “Society’s Child” nod in “Town Called Heartbreak.” “Play Around” sounds like a lost Lieber & Stoller tune for the Drifters.


The above review is no big deal, but a poster at BTX comments, "LOVE IT!"

Scialfa's released three CDs throughout her entire music career, if that's what you want to refer to it as and she's certainly not a "shining star" with the E Street Band.

You would think these people had some vested interest in continuing to prop Springsteen and his wife up.

Is it because they know HE's GOING DOWN to the river, mister, were they bring you up to do like your daddy done.

08-31-2007, 09:34 PM
Originally posted: August 31, 2007

867-5309 - Tommy 'Tutone' Heath speaks!
Lots of folks have noticed the similarity between Bruce Springsteen’s new single, “Radio Nowhere,” and Tommy Tutone’s 1982 hit “867-5309/Jenny” – and one of those people is Tommy Heath, Tommy Tutone’s lead singer. (Tommy Tutone is the name of a band, not a person.)

“Everybody’s calling me about it,” Heath said on the phone Friday morning from Oakland International Airport, where he was about to board a plane for Austin, Tex., to play a show.

Heath said he hasn’t actually heard all of “Radio Nowhere,” just the opening; someone sent him the link to the online Pop Machine, which offers short snippets of each song’s intro plus the two passages played atop one another. But he’s already pondering his legal options.

“I think it’s close enough that if I wanted to, I could work with it,” said Heath, who said he owns 12 percent of the publishing rights to “867-5309.” Jim Keller (the band’s lead guitarist) and Alex Call co-wrote the song.

Most musical plagiarism cases hinge on borrowed melodies, while these two songs’ similarities lie more in the chord changes and beat. Heath acknowledged he’d have to hear the entire song before he took any action.

“I don’t really get into that sort of thing,” he said, “but the kids do need braces so maybe I will.”

08-31-2007, 09:45 PM
Post number nine by isthatmebaby.

Are you telling me this is the same person on the cover of the "Magic" CD?

Is it just the difference in his hair?


09-01-2007, 08:56 AM
I've stated on this thread how I lost 20 pounds when I was on Springsteen's official site.

I'm not sure what triggered the "starve yourself to death" alter, it may have been the fact that I was revealing information about the government or that the psychological and emotional abuse had brought this alter to the surface, which is what they sought.

I was hearing "the voices" that were telling me I was afraid to eat, my food was poisoned, etc. There was definitely a very evil alter trying to take over my core during that time.

Those voices have passed.

Occasionally, they surface here and there, but they aren't something I can't deal with even when they were in full force several years ago and I suffocated them.

In addition, eating for me was an alter changing trigger when I was young that called up the alter who carried the delta and starve yourself to death commands.

FYI, at present, a slight change in my psychological state of being is still affected when I eat.

As I said, it usually passes and it isn't something I would ever act upon because I AM AWARE OF IT.

So, this was something I had to learn to overcome at a young age.

Either let the evil alter starve my core to death (anorexia), or learn to eat without acting upon the KILL commands and/or self-mutilation triggers.

There were many times when my mother was instrumental in teaching me how to stick my finger down my throat and vomit.

09-01-2007, 09:09 AM
There was a video posted on BTX of "The Making of Born to Run."

It was pathetic.

The psycho-babble about a song and how important it is and what it meant.

Their lips move but I don't know what they're saying.

What does, baby, this town rips the bones from you back mean?

Death trap?

Suicide rap?


Yes, what a song.

Anyway, a poster says from 6:29 minutes and after of the video, isn't that the most beautiful thing you've every seen?

I'm like what?

Springsteen in a studio singing JUNGLELAND!

Actually, no.

It's one of the most disgusting things I've ever seen.

During the video of The Making of Born to Run Springsteen talks about how he can't be bought, what happens when dreams don't come true and is love real.

First of all, you were bought.

Secondly, not everyone lives in a world believing in dreams. Try reality, pal!

And, if your dreams don't come true, you deal with it and move on.

And, if you don't know if love is real it might be because you don't know how to love.

So, one of the band members, says that when he hears "Born to Run" in the grocery store, which, by the way, doesn't happen. That song doesn't lend itself to music that is piped into restaurants, grocery stores, etc.

This person, band member or not, says it makes him want to run out into traffic and kill himself.

Are you thinking, what I'm thinking?

09-01-2007, 09:57 AM
OOOOhhhhh, Max Weinberg has plans this weekend, but he couldn't reveal them when asked by Conan.

Must be he's involved in some, "top secret," classified operation with Springsteen and The E Street Band.

09-01-2007, 09:57 AM
Oh, the mystery.

Keep them guessing.

Incite their curiosity.

09-01-2007, 10:38 AM
Radio Somehwere

I finally found my way home
got tired of listening to your voice drone
i was sittin' around like a live wire
feeling happy and inspired

this is radio somewhere
this is radio somewhere

i know there are plenty of people alive out there
i know there are plenty of people alive out there

this is radio somewhere
this is radio somewhere

i know there are plenty of people who can hear
i know there are plenty of people who can hear

i'm not livin' in a dark hole
i'm not stranded nor alone
i'm walkin' on a sunny beach
not hearing a million tongues speak

i don't want to feel your rhythm
i don't want to hear your drums
i don't want to listen to
your guitars strum

not tryin' to make a connection
you're just some fleeting reflection
not bopping through the wild blue
looking for you

this is radio somehwere
i know there are plenty of people alive out there

this is radio somewhere
i know there are plenty of people who can hear

09-01-2007, 11:08 AM
One of the BTX posters has an inside connection with the caterer who supplies Clarence Clemens with his roasted chickens during shows.

For this reason, she has received a clue that there will be more shows in some of the cities that thus far, only have one date according to the roasted chicken orders.

Also, based upon the caviar that is supplied for Springsteen.

A rich man in poor man's clothes enjoy caviar.

09-01-2007, 03:16 PM
The Springsteen fanatic's states of mind are derived from his songs, from his public appearances, anything that's written about him, anytime there is a "Bruce" sighting.

They are emotionally co-dependent.

He is the excitement in their lives.


Is that not pathetic?


It's pathetic.


Without him, they have no lives.

No excitement.

Nothing to look forward to!

Is that not pathetic?


In my most humble opinion.

Look at the lyrics to Radio Nowhere.

A song without sexually deviant lyrics, but still non-sensical.

Not as non-sensical, wandering and scattered as many of his other songs.

But, still, non-sensical.

Oooohhhh, maybe there's a hidden meaning/message in the song for fans.

Just wait til they get a hold of the other songs on the CD.

They'll be pondering the lyrics to these for years to come.

Gosh, no.

I just can't imagine these songs live.

Seriously, the world will never be the same once Springsteen takes the stage and performs these songs.

He will walk across the water.

Part the Red Sea.

He will turn day to night.

I'm sure, as I've said, the earth will stop spinning on its' axis and GOD will descend from the skies.

Jesus, too!

09-01-2007, 03:28 PM
Oh, and I forgot.

All threats of terrorist attacks will cease upon the release of Springsteen's new CD and when his tour begins.

The fascist/police state we will soon be imprisoned in will no longer be.

Well, actually this is how it will work.

Springsteen will be PROTECTED because he's one of THEM.

But, the rest of us.

Oh, no!

When that time descends upon us, your beloved hero whom you think has changed the world for the better when he's actually done not a thing; whom you think has morals; but has in reality aided the NWO, will no longer be your HERO.

He won't do a think to help you.

Trust me.

I've been there.

He'll watch you rot in hell.

Remember, he told you in one of his songs:

"Welcome to the NWO."

He left me to ROT IN HELL.

I say it's his turn now!

09-01-2007, 08:12 PM
Springsteen's voice on the "Magic" albums sounds fantastic according to his posse'.

The voice is back, they say.

Did he lose it?

It's never been there.

I guess they must have spent alot of time in the studio making MAGIC with it.

You know, they don't pay sound engineers not to do their job.


Springsteen's voice always sounds better on a CD than live.

I wonder why that is?

09-01-2007, 08:14 PM
If it weren't for sound engineers, Springsteen's CD would never sell.

09-01-2007, 08:20 PM
Funny, the fanatics have to listen to Springsteen's song over and over again before they convince themselves they like it.

You know, if you put your foot in the water and it's cold, the water's cold.

If you hear a song and it doesn't grab you the first time around, it probably won't grab you unless you listen to it a few hundred times, like the fanatics do, and "brainwash" yourself into believing that because Springsteen sang it, it's good.

They have certainly been conditioned to acceptance no matter what!

09-01-2007, 08:22 PM
It's just to hard to admit that the man they worship isn't really a good songwriter, singer or guitar player.

It's all been media hype and you bought it.

09-01-2007, 08:25 PM
They're all being tempted and teased now with sneak peaks of the remaining songs on the Magic album.

30 second clips of each song!

Wetting their appetities.

Give us more, Bruce.

Give us more, Bruce!

09-01-2007, 08:32 PM
Oh, my, a poster just received Scialfa's CD in the mail with the lyric book included and the photos inside were taken by Springsteen and they are very intimate.

The "boys" on the site should appreciate the pics of Patti, one poster comments.


Them boys are going to be drooling over Sciafla.

I wonder why?

Perhaps cause they understand if you're Springsteen's wife, you're really basically his sex object.

Tramps like Scialfa and Springsteen, baby they were Born to Run.

09-01-2007, 08:34 PM
Now that Springsteen snapped a few photos for Scialfa's CD, he's "Bruce the Photographer."

09-02-2007, 08:35 AM
Springsteen was eating a chicken pita sandwich yesterday at a horse show.

How exciting!


Q:What was your reaction the first time you heard (Springsteen's infamous lusty homage to his wife) "Red Headed Woman?"

A:(laughs) I'm laughing because I'm trying to think how honest I should be. So I'll be completely honest and throw caution to the wind here. I was finishing up my "Rumble Doll" record at the time. We're in our house in Los Angeles and I'm sitting in bed reading a book and Bruce is playing guitar. And he says, "You need songs on your 'Rumble Doll' record that are bragging about yourself and putting yourself forcefully out there. I said, "No, no, no, that's not what this record is about. I'm not doing that. That's for you to do, I'm not writing a song about myself." And he says, "Yeah, yeah. You need a song like 'Red Headed Woman," and he starts making it up and singing as we're sitting there. I remember the day that song came about 'cause I was laughing and I said, "I'm not going to be singing that one. That's for you." And he ended up really finishing it. And we were laughing all the while he was writing it. It was just funny.


Did Springsteen actually think Scialfa would be singing "Red-headed Woman" after he wrote it?

She had to tell him that she wasn't going to be singing that one.

Would be quite strange, if she did put that song on her record and sing about herself in that way.

That's the type of song Springsteen thinks he or his wife should sing in order to BRAG about her?

09-02-2007, 08:43 AM


"Springsteen fans may seek this out due to their hardcore devotion or curiosity. But you don't have to be a Springsteen devotee to appreciate Scialfa's artistic talents. She proves again here that she's her own woman, one who's recorded some exceptional work, and this is right up there with her best."


This writer says that Scialfa has recorded some exceptional work, and this new CD is right up there with her best.

Did someone pay him good money to write this?

Other than this CD, she's recorded two other CD's spanning several decades.

Apparently, her lastest CD isn't her best but it is right up there with her best!

So, which CD would be her best?

"Rumble Doll" or "23rd Street Lullaby?"

Anybody ever hear of them?

09-02-2007, 06:55 PM
Here's a snippet of Springsteen's song, "Livin' in the Future" from his Magic CD.

The posters at BTX are listening to 30 second soundbytes and trying to interpret.

These could be wrong, however, one poster says that he has to question Landau's statement that the song "Devil's Arcade" on the Magic CD is the only overtly political song, because, by golly this verse from "Livin' in the Future," surely is political to him.

This is the verse they've interpreted:

Woke up election day
Sky's gunpowder and shades of gray
Beneath the dirty sign, whistle my time away
Then just about sundown, you come walkin' down
your boot heels clickin' like the barrel of a pistol spinnin' 'round
Don't worry darlin', now baby
We're livin' in the future


Oh, yes. I guess it's political because the words election day appear.

I wonder why they don't question, the "don't worry darlin', now baby, we're livin' in the future."

Like I said, he's not worried about livin' in the US in the future, cause he's one of them.


New World Order.

So, what? He's telling his fans not to worry about livin' in the future after Bush was placed in power on election day and accelerated the fascist/police state.

Conditioning them toward the NWO.

However, who is this man constantly talking to in his songs?


Don't worry, darlin'.

Now baby.

Same in the "Magic" song.

Tryin' to make a connection with you.

Why not, don't worry.


Always some baby, some darlin', some little girl.

I think the man is delusional.

Or, perhaps, addressing his fans who are in an altered state of consciousness and, as their leader, he is saving them; telling them not to worry, tryin' to make a connection with them.


Their hero/politician, Springsteen, is going to save the world with this policial song.

09-02-2007, 06:58 PM
You can't marry outside of the cult, so for anyone to think Patti Scialfa somehow saved Springsteen or is going to save Springsteen.

Think again!

My past abuse by Springsteen has nothing to do with Patti Scialfa.

She's a non-entity as far as that issue is concerned.

09-02-2007, 07:01 PM
The picture of Clarence and Springsteen in a passionate kiss is what I'm talkin' about.

I'm sure there are more where those came from.

Funny, isn't it?

The brits must not know their music.

Considering they refer to "Born to Run" as a pop song.

If Springsteen plays the Super Bowl, what's he going to sing?


Red-headed woman?

Jungle Land?

Born to Run?

On the Prowl for a Wild Child?

09-02-2007, 07:07 PM
Or, maybe at the Super Bowl, Springsteen can sing one of these:

Cautious man
used cars
dry lightning
Silver Palomino
Pink Cadillac

I'm sure everyone knows the words.

Maybe, "Code of Silence" would be good!

09-02-2007, 07:39 PM
I suppose Springsteen's fans think that he would have awoke to a beautiful blue sky on election day had Kerry been placed in office because Springsteen supported him publicly.

I suppose they would have also thought, had Kerry been placed in office, that their hero would have been responsible for this.

Kerry is an "elitist" and a part of the cult. The same as Springsteen, Bono and Bush are. To name a few.

Springsteen hangs with Kerry.

Bono hangs with Bush.

Bush is Skull and Bones and so, too, is Kerry.

As I said, I was used as a child to sexually blackmail Kerry and Springsteen knows this.

Springsteen dedicated a "love song" to Kerry when he attended one of his shows.

Now, you figure it out from there.

A picture of Springsteen and Clarence Clemens in a passionate kiss.

A politician campaigning with a rock star and a rock star allowing his campaign to use his songs.

As if anyone cares who Springsteen supports and doesn't support.

As if anyone thinks that what Springsteen says politically holds any weight.

Only his "brainwashed" fans who follow him blindly.

09-02-2007, 07:43 PM
Then we have the Clinton's with their Fleetwood Mac campaign theme song, "Don't stop thinking about tomorrow."

Fleetwood Mac and Stevie Nicks, the witch, serving the same masters.

09-02-2007, 07:52 PM
Many of the elitists have children who participate in Equestrian horse shows.

The one at the Hamptons attracted, Springsteen with his daughter; Lou Dobbs; Billy Joel, Michael Bloomberg, Steven Spielberg.

Not sure about Lou Dobbs, but the other four, certainly cut from the same cloth.

09-02-2007, 08:15 PM
I've already said Springsteen is a sexual deviant.

I've already said this involves homosexual behavior and sex with little girls.

You know, when Springsteen wrote "Red Headed Woman" for Scialfa to sing on one of her CD's in order to brag about herself and she said, that's for you to sing.

If it were me, I would have said, scratch that one!

I prefer you not sing about oral sex with me.

Like I said, no morals.

09-02-2007, 08:22 PM
I've already stated I was incarcerated in MKULTRA/Project Monarch and used as a child "sex slave" in the music industry and to sexually blackmail politicians at home and abroad.

Including Pierre Trudeau.

I've already stated I was passed around to various musicians and that Bruce Springsteen was my main handler/controller/abuser.

I was a "little girl."

I was not the only "little girl."

Rolling Stones song, "What's Your Name, Little Girl," shouldn't you stay? There's no shame, little girl.

This makes them pedophiles.

Pedophilia is a CRIME!!

It is time for them to pay the price!

Not only for their sexually deviant behavior, but for incarcerating innocent children in CIA mind control programs and using them in Mafia pornography and to sexually service politicians at home and abroad.

For the torture inflicted upon me and so many other innocent children.

Do you think maybe Springsteen serviced Kerry when he was a child?

09-02-2007, 08:35 PM
The "worshippers" are so stressed out over the upcoming CD and tour that when someone writes a paradoy of one of Springsteen's songs, 2Hearts replies, "thanks for lightening the mood around here."


Go home!

Go outside.

Get some fresh air.

They can't.

They're all Springsteen's prisoners.

09-02-2007, 09:27 PM
OF all the subjects Patti Scialfa might consider probing on her third album, you’d think her marriage would be low on the list.

For one thing, fans have been scouring her songs for Bruce Springsteen-related subtext since she released her first solo record, “Rumble Doll,” in 1993 — tiresome for an artist who has had much to say about her own eventful life. And for another, few would expect the public dissection of a relationship from the happily married wife of a rock god.

She's produced two albums before this one, so, her fans, Springsteen's fans no doubt, have been scouring her songs for Bruce Springsteen-related subtext. Certainly won't take them long considering it only involves three CDs. I think the writer and Scialfa are delusional to think anyone scours her music for Springsteen related sub-text. Few would expect the public dissection of a relationship with a happily married wife of a rock GOD. Few would expect it, because only a few care, if even that. What the hell is a ROCK GOD? Oh, someone like Springsteen who is a musician, but a GOD to his followers. I get it now.

But “Play It as It Lays” (Columbia), a weary, emotion-rich record scheduled to be released on Tuesday, is pointedly about Ms. Scialfa’s 16-year marriage to Mr. Springsteen. And she doesn’t shrink from saying so.

Weary describes it best. This record is about her 16 year marriage to Springsteen. Why does she think anyone cares about her marriage to Springsteen? Obsessed Springsteen fans maybe, but I highly doubt that, too.

Oh, yes, Looking for Elvis and A Town Called Heartbreak are definitely about their marriage. I'm so interested. I've been waiting for this CD forever so I can learn about their marriage in these very deep songs that tell all.

“My records always deal with a question I have that I don’t know how to answer,” she said from a comfortable living room in her 1720s farmhouse on 400 acres here. “The question this time was about the conflicts and the complexities in a long-term relationship, the real things that go on.”

A Town Called Heartbreak deals with a question you have but don't have an answer to? HUH?? It's about the conflicts and the complexities in a long-term relationship, the real things that go on. Sounds like she's always talking about a very difficult time being married to Springsteen. I don't think she knows what the lyrics to the song are.

“Everybody knows what the good stuff is in a long-term relationship, and so for me it was more compelling and interesting to go into the areas where the conflicts are,” she added. “I find those things fascinating to write about — complexities, the darker stuff, the things that are under the rug, in the back room and in the cellar. It was a little scary, I have to say.”

It was scary writing these songs? HUH? Looking for Elivs and A Town Called Heartbreak?? Yeah, real scary!!

What comes through on the record, though, is not callowness but boldness, a determination to get right her many roles: Ms. Scialfa, 54, is the mother of the couple’s three teenagers as well as a solo artist and a member of both the E Street and the Seeger Sessions bands. The most discernible theme is a sense of domestic ennui.

I don't think this writer has listened to the songs. If she hasn't gotten her roles right yet at 54, maybe she's doing something wrong.

“It’s easy to dull down a bit, to knee-jerk into clichés, when you’re raising a family,” said Ms. Scialfa, commenting on the opening song, “Looking for Elvis,” which is about personal reinvention. “And Bruce and I — I work on his tour, so I’m working a lot. So you want to keep yourself open to your own intuition and your own rhythms, but it’s hard. It’s hard to keep alive those original seeds you plant in yourself.”

Looking for Elvis is about personal reinvention?? Yeah, real deep lyrics about personal reinvention, alright.

Ms. Scialfa took 11 years between her first two albums, “Rumble Doll” and “23rd Street Lullaby” in 2004 (Columbia), because of obligations with her family and with the E Street Band, and she regrets not touring behind “Rumble Doll.” (“I saw that I had three kids in diapers — it was a huge transition — and I derailed myself,” she said.) Her “23rd Street Lullaby” tour was brief, only five cities, because of tours with Mr. Springsteen. And the making of “Play It as It Lays,” which Ms. Scialfa will tour behind in 2008 after a flurry of television appearances, was put on hold because of scheduling with the Seeger Sessions Band.

Sounds like Springsteen derails your most accomplished career as a solo artist. Or, most likely you use him as an excuse for the reason you don't tour when the reality is that the record company won't finance a tour because they'd lose money. There wasn't a Springsteen tour that interfered with 23rd Street Lullaby. That was released way before The Seeger Sessions and after the release Springsteen was touring solo for Devils and Dust. This writer says her tour for "Play it as it Lays" was put on hold because of scheduling with the Seeger Sessions Band. That gig is over, pal. As usual, it's on hold because of an upcoming "E Street Band" tour. So convenient, how her other commitment to the E Street Band seems to get in the way of her own tour.

She recorded the album at home; her backup band, which gave itself the silly name the Whack Brothers, consisted of the co-producer, Steve Jordon (percussion, acoustic guitar), Willie Weeks (bass), Nils Lofgren (guitars, pedal steel guitar, dobro), Cliff Carter (keyboards) and Mr. Springsteen (Hammond B3 organ, acoustic guitars, electric guitar, harmonica).

Mr. Jordon’s presence grounded her, she said. “Steve I’ve known since I was 19. I needed to be surrounded by people who gave me my autonomy, do you know? Who reflected back my own path. That was important.”

GAWD. She makes it sound like producing a CD is so stressful. She needed to be surrounded by Steve because she's known him since she was 19. I guess MR. SPRINGSTEEN didn't make her feel secure enough. These people give her her autonomy. They reflected back on her own path??? HUH????

That quest for autonomy is understandable. Ms. Scialfa is still subject to cries of “Bruuuuuce!” when she takes the stage, and she often crosses paths with fans who want to assign Mr. Springsteen a larger role in her music — “People say: ‘Oh, did he write that? It sounds like something he wrote,’ ” she said.

Oh, poor Scialfa!! Isn't a famous musician in her own right. Overshadowed by THE BOSS. Get a backbone!

Forging an identity apart from Mr. Springsteen’s can be an uphill battle, as any number of New Jersey rock artists pelted by requests for his songs have discovered. Ms. Scialfa had a final word of advice for them:

Poor thing doesn't have an identity of her own. Another excuse for an unsuccessful solo career. She's the one who chose to join the E Street Band because she is a back-up singer; not a very good one at that and a record label didn't want to sign her for a solo career. Since you're such an introspective who seems to have so much advice to offer about relationships, why is it, in your 50's, you still don't have your own identify?

“Just say no,” she said.

Just say no when a request to play a Springsteen song is made by an audience member to a New Jersey rock artist. Why? You have that much disdain for your husband's music? What? You fear if they play a Springsteen song, the rock group will lose their identity, too?

09-02-2007, 09:51 PM
Oh, yes, Scialfa's CD is about trying to "get right" her many roles.

Like I said, it must all be so very difficult for her.

Many of us have the same roles.

Wife, mother, career.

You know, I'm getting kind of WEARY listening to Mrs. Scialfa whine in every interview and I'm also tiring of the press whining for her.

Cry me a river!

Life is tough.

Deal with it.

Or, if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

09-02-2007, 10:42 PM
More whining about how Mrs. Scialfa has been misperceived and details about her marriage. Maybe if she stopped talking about Springsteen in every interview she wouldn't be negating herself.

Very boring interview and person because it's the same type of psychobabble that Springsteen delivers.

Scialfa doesn't give the impression that she's happily married.


The biggest misconception about Patti Scialfa may be that she was some amateur singer when Bruce Springsteen ushered her into The E Street Band in 1984. In fact, she had been in bands dating back to her teen-age years, had studied jazz in college, sung on her own and with acts including Southside Johnny and the Asbury Jukes, and had been pursuing a record label deal while writing a vast number of original songs. Of course, joining The E Street Band, and subsequently marrying Springsteen in 1991, put a lot of other aspects of her career on hold. She's released only two solo albums prior to her new disc, "Play It As It Lays," which is set for release on Columbia Records on Tuesday . It's earthy, soulful, intimate, rockin' and cool, much like the woman herself, and features 10 new Scialfa originals.

You've just described the very thing you say she wasn't. Which is an amateur singer. If she wasn't an amateur singer before she joined the E Street Band, her name would have been recognized then and now as a "professional" in the music industry rather than the wife of Bruce Springsteen.

While she sings and plays acoustic guitar and organ, she's got some typically impressive guests on board as well, including keyboardist Cliff Carter, drummer Steve Jordan, bassist Willie Weeks, guitarist Nils Lofgren, violinist Soozie Tyrell, and yes, that Springsteen fellow, who provides some musical backup on a handful of tracks. But make no mistake about it, this is Scialfa's work, and it's even more impressive than her two previous, critically lauded albums.

Critically lauded??? It's not hard to be more impressive with a new CD when you only have two before it.

She recently spoke about her career, the new album, life with Springsteen and The E Street Band, and much more:

Q:It took you 11 years between your first album, "Rumble Doll," and your second album, "23rd Street Lullaby." But you came back relatively quickly just three years later with this disc. Did you have a burst of creative energy or just more time available?

A:Just more time available. My kids are teen-agers and also I was new at making records when I made "Rumble Doll," with just Mike Campbell and I in his garage, just the two of us. And we'd overdub everything afterwards. I was pregnant and having children during it, and it was hard just to get momentum going for myself. With "23rd Street," I had recorded that whole record once before and mixed it, and it didn't sound the way I really wanted it to sound so I had to start at block one again. It just took a long time. I didn't understand about having a really good team around me.

I wrote "23rd Street" after the record was done and I realized it needed a head piece. I said, "Wait a second, this record is about all my experiences in New York but I don't have a song that really telegraphs that." So I wrote "23rd Street." This time when I went back in the studio, we went in with a whole band and I was like, "This is the way to work. Just cut everybody live and play it once." I think I was just too much of a control freak to do it with my other record, I just felt it was too unwieldy. I managed to feel more confident, I knew all the players. We played well together, we played live.

Q:You're doing several TV appearances in conjunction with the album's release. Any plans to tour?

A:Hopefully I'll be able to do something after the New Year, that's my window.

Q:You've got some wonderful musicians with you on this album, including Soozie Tyrell, with whom you go back many years. How did the two of you get to know each other?

A:I was playing at a club called Dr. Generosity's in New York City, which is a funky little bar with a tiny little stage in the back, you could only fit three or four people. I was playing with Cliff Carter and Hiram Bullock, who's a brilliant guitar player, and she (Tyrell) was in the audience. She was all by herself, she was like 19 at the time or 18. I'm a few years older than her, I think I was 20 or 21. She was so sweet. I was playing all my original music and she was listening to every word and every lyric. And she was really appreciative. After my set was over I introduced myself 'cause she just had this beatific face filled with compassion. She was a great girl. She was my girl crush (laughs). We became great friends, best friends and we started playing together immediately.

Soozie was Patti's girl crush. When she met her she had a beautific face filled with compassion. She was a great girl.

Q:The album starts off with "Looking for Elvis." We just passed the 30th anniversary of Elvis' death. What did he mean to you and what's his role in this song?

A:Elvis was used as a metaphor in the song. For me, the young Elvis embodied the American dream. There was all that youth and vitality and the hopefulness inside his work and his performance. So that idea of that innocence ... was very appealing to me. So I used him as an idea of trying to find that again within yourself, within the people around you, within your country.

Elvis embodied the American dream. HUH?? Pretty bad metaphor. Trying to find youth and vitality within your country.

Q:You were singing for years before you joined The E Street Band, but some people still don't realize that. What are your earliest memories of singing and when did you first start singing professionally?

A:I started singing in bands when I was 14 and 15. Now when I look at my kids at that age, it's shocking to me. My first band was called Ecstasy.

Qo you ever regret that you didn't make more solo albums?

A:Sure. It was just a decision that I had made. I'm not ambitious in the sense that I'll always write and I'll always be recording at my house. But the ambition to really get out there was always secondary. And once I had my family it became really secondary to my family. So I not only had a family with a husband and kids but as a member of The E Street Band, there was tremendous responsibility in that also, that takes a tremendous amount of time. So working out my own work was underneath that. So I think as my kids get older, I have more free time. I already have ideas for my next record and have part of that recorded. I feel safer to put that time into my own work.

Q: "Rainy Day Man" has a great groove. It's not only one of the best songs on the album, it's also got a pretty interesting story behind it. How did you come up with it?

A:We came in the studio that day to record a song that I had lying around for a long time called "Deliver Me." It has a groove to it, but it's a slower song. It's a very serious song. So everybody's in the studio and they're playing it and playing it very well, but I just became bored as we were rehearing it. And I thought, "I'm just so tired of trying to get a good track of this song because I always felt it was a good song but we hadn't caught it yet." And I said, "Y'know, I wrote something in the shower this morning; let's do that instead because it's really fun, it's light, and it's easy." And the guys, when they're in the studio they play funk music so well. So everybody's going, "No, no, no, we almost have this." But I said, "No, let's do this." And I sat down at the piano and I played it for them. And we recorded that track and then I had it, but I felt, "Oh, this is a little light. "I don't usually like happy songs, they make me nervous (laughs). I feel I can't write them as well, to tell you the truth.

Q:Of all the tours you've participated in, the tour in conjunction with "The Seeger Sessions" was among the most fascinating. What was that whole experience like from your perspective? And didn't Soozie play a big part in getting that whole concept off the ground?

A:First of all, it was like a carnival party. It was a blast. We have this farm and we would have a harvest party every year in September. Soozie brought down this band named Gotham Playboys and they would usually play at our parties. Bruce liked the way that they played and recorded some stuff when he was asked to do some songs for a Pete Seeger session a long time ago. Then when they were down, he'd fool around and do another couple of songs and something else would come about and he'd do another couple of songs. So we had a little bit of a library started of this kind of music and I guess he went back and listened to them and said, "Gee, I think I'll make a record out of this." So we went back into the studio and he started making a real record out of it and it was a blast. It was a joyous experience. It was very American, coming back to that sense of that dream, that hopefulness, that possibility ... All those musicians on stage, it was a blast.

Q:Have you and Bruce ever discussed doing a tour or even just a few shows with just the two of you, trading off songs?


Q:So no "Double Fantasy" in the future?

A:Noooooooooo. (laughs) I think it would be a natural inclination if Bruce was not such a well-known figure but the way that things are, it just doesn't seem right. I don't think people would enjoy it. Bruce has a really large fan base, I think that's something that feels very sacred to people. I don't think it's a good idea.

You don't think it' s a good idea, because your talent is lacking.

Q:When was the first time you heard Bruce perform in person?

A:Interesting. For years, I'd never heard him in person. I'd really only heard a little bit of his records. When I was in jazz school, I threw away all my rock'n'roll records and just studied jazz. When I sang, I had a gig in Florida and Cliff Carter played piano - he's on the record - we sang jazz, standard ballads and swing stuff. Bruce had a few records out at that time. And then in the city I started singing with the Jukes (Southside Johnny and the Asbury Jukes) because I knew the guitar player from high school. Then he said to me, "Have you ever seen Bruce Springsteen play?" And I said, "No, but I'm familiar with a little bit of his music." He said, "No, you have to see him live, you just won't believe this." You know the whole spiel people give you, "Oh, it's like a Bible meeting," or this or that.

And I just went, but I was still pretty entrenched in the jazz thing at the time. I went to see him at Madison Square Garden on "The River" tour and it was just beautiful. I had never seen anything like that. Just that kind of focus and the commitment of everybody on stage. And Bruce's truly intrepid journey that he is able to communicate with everyone around him (laughs). It was very beautiful. I knew Bruce's music and I liked his music but when I joined the band I knew the "Darkness" ("Darkness on The Edge of Town") record very, very well 'cause I remember listening to that for awhile. But the rest of the material I had heard, but I really didn't know. So I wasn't familiar with his whole catalog and I had to go in and learn his catalog.

Here she goes. Is overshadowed by her husband, but the interviewer seems not to want to talk about her, but about Springsteen and she just dives right in. What is there to talk about? They're musicians. It's not like they're curing world hunger or aids. How much can you say about a song? Apparently with Scialfa and Springsteen a whole lot of psychobabble.

Q:For you personally, what was the most difficult aspect of joining The E Street Band?

A:Learning the catalog. I joined that tour three days out and they really didn't have anybody to sing the harmonies because Steve (Van Zandt) had left, Nils (Lofgren) had come on board and he had the daunting task of learning the catalog inside and out because when Bruce is on stage he'll have a set list, but then he likes to call things out that you might not have gone over in a long time. Also Nils has a gorgeous voice but he had laryngitis and he couldn't really sing during the rehearsal, and that can make you feel a little insecure. So Bruce asked me to come up. I'd already known Bruce. We were casual friends, we'd hang out sometimes at the bars or go out for a hamburger or something. I met him in Jersey when I was sitting in with the band and he came up and introduced himself. He asked me to sing on his record. I knew him a bit, great guy. He said, "We're having problems with the harmonies; we probably won't ask anybody to come aboard, but come up and see how you fit in and sing." I sang with the band for a couple of days. Then three days before the first show, which I think was in St. Paul, the first show in the "Born in the USA" tour, he asked me to join. So I never really rehearsed. That was daunting, challenging - learning his catalog. I went out and had to learn everything. I wanted to know his catalog really well. It was fun. It was fun to learn. I learned just so much from working with The E Street Band, about that kind of focus. Bruce has an amazing work ethic.

Here we go. Bruce, Bruce and nothing but Bruce. Now she's explaining what a daunting task it was to become a part of the E Street Band. We all know how very little a contribution she makes. These interviews are so strange. Decades later, it's like they're trying to catch everybody up on her background. Why'd they wait so long? Maybe because there really isn't much to say of interest to anyone except Springsteen fanatics. I mean, seriously, folks, it's just not interesting. She's not interesting. Nothing personal. She just sounds very boring. She studied music, they met because they were both doing the same circuit in Asbury Park, she joined the E Street Band, had an affair with Springsteen and they married. End of story. Well, not quite the end yet, as far as I'm concerned.

Q:I love the title track, "Play It As It Lays." It was inspired by a Joan Didion novel. Tell me about that.

A:Joan Didion is a great writer. And it was a great title, "Play It As It Lays." When I write, I write in a funny way, to me it's like little chapters. So I knew I had my opening tune, which was "Looking For Elvis," and I knew that was my song that led you in. And I knew I wanted a song at the end of the record which addressed everything in the record and came up with some kind of idea of how to move forward from there. In her book "Play It As It Lays," she had these characters who always fell off the edge of the map, that became so dysfunctional that they couldn't integrate themselves into any kind of functioning social life - social meaning even children, husband, not social partying life but any kind of integrated sense with the world around them. Which is always fascinating to me, those kind of characters. But I wanted to take those characters and have them work their way back in. So that song to me was about taking somebody who had put themselves a little bit left of center and found a way to work themselves back in.

WOW. You took characters. Put them in a song. They were dysfunctional, but then worked themselves back in. All this in a song. Amazing. I thought the CD was about your 16 year marriage with Springsteen?

Q:What was your reaction the first time you heard (Springsteen's infamous lusty homage to his wife) "Red Headed Woman?"

A:(laughs) I'm laughing because I'm trying to think how honest I should be. So I'll be completely honest and throw caution to the wind here. I was finishing up my "Rumble Doll" record at the time. We're in our house in Los Angeles and I'm sitting in bed reading a book and Bruce is playing guitar. And he says, "You need songs on your 'Rumble Doll' record that are bragging about yourself and putting yourself forcefully out there. I said, "No, no, no, that's not what this record is about. I'm not doing that. That's for you to do, I'm not writing a song about myself." And he says, "Yeah, yeah. You need a song like 'Red Headed Woman," and he starts making it up and singing as we're sitting there. I remember the day that song came about 'cause I was laughing and I said, "I'm not going to be singing that one. That's for you." And he ended up really finishing it. And we were laughing all the while he was writing it. It was just funny.

I commented on this earlier in the thread. Yep. Write a song about oral sex with your red-headed wife and expect her to sing it on a CD so she can brag about herself. Better yet, she tells you to go ahead and include it on your CD.

Qo you and Bruce have different tastes when it comes to music you like to listen to? If so, can you think of examples?

A:It's fortunate in a marriage that our tastes run pretty much in the same vein, which is good. Which means our taste in films, our taste in books, even your taste in how you want your environment to look, that's fortunate and it makes everything pretty easy. A lot of times in the car, I don't listen to a lot of stuff in the car, because if I'm in the car with the kids, I try and set up a place where we can all talk. But now my kids are vying for playing their songs while we're in the car.

Q:What do they like?

A:Our oldest Evan, he's 17, he's turned me on to some really good music. Basically his favorite right now is Rage Against the Machine. He's into political music, which is really nice. He's got a great iPod, I keep saying, "Please just download all this stuff into my iPod, it's very eclectic." Sam, our youngest son, goes in for the classics. He's a big Bob Marley freak, Jimi Hendrix. And Jess likes all the female artists, so it's fun.

Q:You and Bruce have been together a long time. What's the key to keeping a rock'n'roll marriage strong?

A:Oh God, I have no idea, but we've been lucky. I think that working together has been a really good thing in our life. My mother and father always worked together and I think that ended up being a good thing. Because when anybody is traveling emotionally to different spots in their work or their ideas, you are alongside them, so you can experience them with each other. He does that with me and I do that with him. Those long separations, they can become destructive. And the biggest thing - he's very good - this is what he does: "You're right, Patti." He's learned to say "You're absolutely right." That's a big help for a long marriage (laughs).

Sometimes, I get the feeling when I'm reading these interviews with Scialfa and when I hear Springsteen talk, especially when they go into the psychobabble about their songs, that they somehow truly believe all of the world looks upon them for guidance.

09-02-2007, 11:14 PM
Scialfa talks about how working with your husband is a good thing, because the separation can be difficult when touring.

She joined the E Street Band in 1984.

The last tour was in 1988.

The band split in 1989.

This is before they were married.

The band reunited in 1999; 11 years later.

They toured in 2002 for "The Rising."

They did a "Vote for Change" gig.

So, since being married to Springsteen, the "E Street Band" has toured twice in 16 years.

It appears the separation is most pronounced when Springsteen tours solo or with another backing band.

Obviously, she doesn't have much of a career solo or with the "E Street Band."

She did fly back and forth to Europe when Springsteen was doing the Seeger Sessions tour in order to perform "If I Should Fall Behind" for the DVD.

09-03-2007, 10:40 AM
Okay, so the diehard Springsteen fans know that they should be quiet when Springsteen is playing a song that HAS MEANING.

They no the RULES.

Some of the casual fans aren't aware of this.

Occasionally, during the middle of a song, Springsteen has to tell the audience to STFU or "quiet please."

These words can be heard in some of the live releases.

Sometimes, he requests quite beforehand. Other times, he doesn't.

You know, maybe the man places more meaning in some of his songs than some of those who attend his shows do!

Or, maybe they just dont' take him seriously.


Patti Scialfa is going to be on the Letterman show and President Clinton will be a guest on the same night.

Posters are wondering if Springsteen has ever met Clinton and will he go to the Letterman show in order not to miss this opportunity.

Yes, he's met him at the White House during a ceremony for Dylan, I believe, where he performed an awful rendition of one of Dylan's songs.

But, anyway.

One poster says that wherever Patti is, Springsteen isn't far behind.

Perhaps this is one reason she doesn't feel she is independent of him.

Does he follow her around like a "puppy dog?"

09-03-2007, 10:48 AM
This was posted at BTX. A note from Nils.

Sept. 1 , 2007

Hello everyone, hope you're all in good health and spirits.

Me and Amy continue to miss the heck out of Terry M., especially now that E St. is about to fire up and tour. We call on your spirit every day for inspiration and courage Terry and will continue to. Long may your spirit run!

I'm excited and grateful for this imminent challenge to take great new music to the world with Bruce and E St. It is an honor and privilege to participate in this comfort, healing and joy through music which continues to be one of the formidable "sacred weapons" this planet needs desperately.

Here we go! He says he continues to be honored and prvileged to participate in this comfort, healing and joy through music which continues to be one of the formidable "sacred weapons" this planet needs desperately. HUH??? Oh, yes, music and the E Street Band heal the world.

I'm currently rehearsing with another extraordinary band led by Patti Scialfa (Patti and I joined E St. the same month in May of '84) as she releases a beautiful, soulful solo album this week. You'll love it! I'll ask Linda and Mary to post the details.

Ah, he's currently rehearsing with an extraordinary band led by Patti Scialfa. Yes, please post the details. Her album is due to be released so what else are you guys rehearsing? Aren't you going to be rehearsing with the E Street Band? Can't be in two places at one time.

I won't be able to do my traditional acoustic U.K.duo run this Fall (we’ll miss you!) however, we are still planning to do our annual Birchmere gigs Jan. 11 and 12. The "Muscatel" song and download will probably be avaliable early next week. I love it and hope you'll check it out! Anson and I will continue to work with our team to get some new and unreleased music to you as I take the E St. journey. Also, to you interested guitarists, sorry I haven't gotten to the "Youngstown" solo yet but I hope to do that from my hotel room during rehearsals. Please bear with me and thanks for spreading the word about the guitar school.

Thanks to my fabulous wife Amy, I have a beautiful home with 3 dogs, 2 cats and a teenager that I now get a new homesickness for when I hit the road. Luckily, Amy has always been supportive of my musical journey and is beautifully aware of the healing that Bruce offers the planet through his music with the E St. Band. She's been saying for years how much the world needs it and now it's happening so thanks beautiful, I love ya!

His wife is beautifully aware of the healing that BRUCE offers the planet through his music with the E Street Band. HUH? Most of the planet doesn't even listen to his music. I wonder in what form this healing takes place. Is Springsteen one of those frauds who proclaims to have healing powers, takes your money and heals nothing. Does this man actually believe what he is saying?

I will keep you all posted. I know some of you wish I would be doing more shows of my own and for that I am honored. However, please know this is all part of an incredible musical journey I've been blessed with and it will only inspire me in new ways which always helps me with my own music. You, the audience continue to be the most important part of the equation and for that I thank you from my heart.

Peace and Believe- Nils

09-03-2007, 02:36 PM
From www.backstreets.com

Springsteen and the E Street Band played a brief series of dates in 2004, but their last full-scale outing was the tour for The Rising in 2002 and 2003. Since that time, Bruce has continued to tour extensively: as a solo artist in 2005, and with the Sessions Band last year, playing, as he put it at the time, everything that leads to rock music, but not rock music.

Reminded of that now, Springsteen says emphatically, "Yeah -- I'll be playing the rock music this time. " He laughs, adding, "In case anybody's wondering."

Speaking with Backstreets by phone as tour preparation gets underway, Springsteen makes it clear that he tapped his rock side for Magic, an album meant to be played live: "It's just built for it," he says. "I wrote with a lot of melody, and with a lot of hooks, and there's a lot of band power behind the stuff that I wrote this time out. So I'm excited to hear that come straight off the band."

The 2007 E Street Band line-up will be the same as in 2002-2003 -- including violinist Soozie Tyrell, a veteran of the Rising tour and of last year's Sessions Band. Though not mentioned in today's press release, Springsteen confirms, "Soozie will be with us."

He still raves about the Sessions Band -- "a tremendous discovery, and just such an amazing group of musicians" -- and says he looks forward to working with them again. But when he refers to "the band," it goes without saying that he means E Street.

"The band is the band, you know?" Springsteen says. "It's the only place where I really do the thing that I suppose that I'm most known for, which is... it's a peak experience."

For Springsteen, transition between styles is second nature. He's been doing it to a large degree since 1982's Nebraska, his stark solo record between the big E Street blasts of The River and Born in the U.S.A. As his sonic repertoire expands, his commitment to performance -- whatever the sound may be -- remains constant.

"For it to be really great, you've got to be 100 percent committed at that moment. So when you're in it, that's all there is," he explains. "I think that's what it takes to be really good. So I'll just lose myself in whatever form I'm working in at any given moment. And the other things seem distant: 'Oh yeah, I like to do that too, and I like to do that too...' But really, I'm very comfortable moving between all the different formats that I play in now."

In fact, it's much like -- and as easy as -- shifting gears. It's no surprise to hear Springsteen employ a car metaphor, with the E Street band as the hotrod, as he looks toward reconvening the band for tour rehearsals.

"First of all, we start playing just to feel the machine again," he says, describing what happens after they initially plug in. "You've gotta drive it a little bit before you push the envelope on it." While Springsteen recorded Magic with the E Street Band, the studio process had them laying down tracks individually; September rehearsals will bring them back together to work up the new material as a unit. "We may run through a few things we know, just to reacquaint ourselves with the sound and the power of the band. How it moves underneath you, and everything. That's sort of the first thing I do, I refit myself into that bucket seat. 'Oh yeah, okay, now I remember...' And that takes all of about 15 minutes."

After that? Well, it's early enough that he's not ready to say. "I don't really go in with any rigid ideas. I'm interested in seeing where the music is going to take us and where the band feels best.... I think the initial thing you try to do is to find a place for a lot of your new work. I'm excited about that. We played a lot of The Rising on the [2002-2003] tour because, once again, it was stuff that just played really well live. We've got that again in spades on this record.

"And then you've got to see what people respond to. I have a good idea, but it's still a conversation with your audience. And when they start listening, and talking back, then different things come to the front."

How about "The Price You Pay," from The River, which hasn't made a setlist since 1981?

"It's become a thing just because I haven't played it," Bruce laughs. "If I had played it, nobody would give much of a damn if they heard it or not! Just because it hasn't been played.... You know, my recollection is that it's been a while since we've played 'Crush on You.' And I'm not sure that one's going to be popping up in the set any time soon, either, you know?"

But it could, and that's one of the things that has had fans itching for the E Street Band to hit the road again -- the idea that anything can happen. "We leave the door very open, because over the course of a long tour, we end up playing so many songs.... obviously, we try to make the shows unique. I've got a lot of songs that I'm carrying around at this point, and it's fun to get to them as the tour goes along."

When Springsteen got the band back together in 1999, part of the joy of the reunion was the very fact that everyone was able to reunite. Sure, available, and arguably playing better than ever, but at a very basic level, alive. Many bands haven't been so lucky, a quarter-century down the road. Another eight years along, gearing up for the Magic tour, it's still the case.

"That's something that you become more grateful for as time passes," Bruce says. "You know, I just lost Terry [Magovern], my great friend of 23 years. That was a big loss. And so you're aware that things are finite. The band really did take care of one another over the years, and like I've always said, it's one of the things I'm proudest of. And I continue to be. I mean, there are a lot of ways that life can take you, and you never know what tomorrow brings. So to have that kind of stability -- and not only that, but also that the personal relationships remain so thoroughly enjoyable -- it's a great gift."

All things being finite, does it enter his mind that this could be the last time out? A "farewell tour"?

"Oh, I'll never do that, man -- you're only gonna know that when you don't see me no more."

Of course, no doubt -- but for the E Street Band as we know it?

"Hell, I don't know," Springsteen laughs. "I envision the band carrying on for many, many, many more years. There ain't gonna be any farewell tour. That's the only thing I know for sure."


I was going to comment on this interview, as I usually do.

However, to sum it up, just more psychobabble about the "genius" Springsteen is.

Able to go from playing with the Seeger Sessions Band to The E Street Band.

As if he's the only musician capable of such a task.

Superman, if you will.

I would like to NOTE that I cannot read this article again.

It definitely has an "alter" changing trigger(s) included in the text.

I thought I was going to lose it for a moment as I felt my consciousness being altered. It's a feeling of "slipping away."

I know how to counteract and so I did.

But, this was very strong.

It may be the words, "nothing is finite."

Not sure.

Simply put, I won't be able to pinpoint it any further because, in order to protect myself, I cannot read it again at present.

Perhaps in a few days.

I began to feel as though I was "alter" switching and in order to counteract this, the fight or flight indicator appears. The fear associated with switching and losing control of my core causes me to fight the takeover. Sometimes, it feels as though my body is going to start shaking uncontrollably before it is counteracted.

It could be the fact that they are Springsteen's words, but I don't remember having such a reaction to his written words before.

However, it could be that this is the first article I've read with his words without being in an altered state of consciousness.

Not sure!

But, definitely a very weird state of being came over me after the read.

Could be "push the envelope on it."

Could be:

"I think that's what it takes to be really good. So I'll just lose myself in whatever form I'm working in at any given moment. And the other things seem distant: 'Oh yeah, I like to do that too, and I like to do that too...' But really, I'm very comfortable moving between all the different formats that I play in now."

09-03-2007, 04:42 PM
There may have been several contributing factors to the trigger.

First, viewing BTX and seeing the username, "Rosie's Dad."

Not that this refers to my father, but to Springsteen who often referred to himself as my Daddy.

The mind controllers did this as well.

All of us are your Daddy's.

I'd say, but I have a Daddy.

But you need more than one daddy, they would say. When I'd ask why, they'd just reply that it was better to have more than one Daddy.

This just fulfilled their pedophilia when calling out a child-like alter and engaging in sexually deviant behavior.

I'd always say that you're not my Daddy. I don't want you to be my Daddy.

So, inotherwords, children listen to their Daddy and, in this sense, being commanded by more than one handler/controller who was playing the role of a Daddy.

Not that my father was any better, but it was just strange, as you can imagine.

But, anyway, I also read a post at BTX that referred to being "Lost in the Flood."

And, an article about Springsteen "Casting a Magic Spell" with his upcoming tour.

While on Springsteen's official site, in an altered state of consciousness it being suggested that I couldn't love two men at once. Give all of my love to him; he wanted ALL OR NOTHING AT ALL and I wasn't adhering to these demands and continued to be intimate with my husband, I called the bluff.

I told him to divorce his wife.

Shortly after, Vast posted a comment that he and his wife were divorcing.

Did they divorce?

Of course not!

09-03-2007, 04:51 PM
A poster at BTX is able to decipher from a 30 second soundbyte of the song, "Girls in Summer Clothes," the following (one) line and decides it's an amazing song.

"Kids rubber ball smacks off the gutter 'neath the lamp light"


Truly amazing.

"A kid's rubber ball smacks off the gutter 'neath the lamp light."


Earth shattering!

09-03-2007, 04:54 PM
What time is it?

Isn't this a Clarence Clemen's line inticing the crowd to shut out:

"It's BOSS time"

I'll say.

It certainly is time.

09-03-2007, 07:04 PM
Why is it they refer to Springsteen as THEIR BOY and men at BTX are so concerned about his appearance; hair, etc.

Just as the other day, one poster asked another to post the "intimate" pictures of Scialfa from her CD on the site cause the BOYS would like them.

One male posters points out that Springsteen is doing a comb over, but no comment about the full head of hair he has on the Magic album.

I get the distinct feeling that when they post a picture of Springsteen and Scialfa together; somehow I'm suppose to be jealous.

Oh, the happy couple they portray!

AS if this means anything in the scope of what is to come.

Jealous of what?

That she married a pedophile and sexual deviant and he uses her to hide his homosexuality.

What does that say about her?

I mean, did he escape the cult?


So, "he's still the same."

Jealous because the man was my handler/controller when I was a child and sexually, emotionally and physically abused me.

Yeah, right!

09-03-2007, 07:18 PM
Review by Thom Jurek

Patti Scialfa's second album, 23rd Street Lullaby, was a paean to the romantic, wild, unbridled joy of running around the New York City of the '70s — a place that no longer exists — as seen through the eyes of a wiser, seasoned, yet untamed adult heart. Play It as It Lays is its mirror image. Released just a shade over three years later (a brief time for Scialfa, whose debut set Rumble Doll was released in 1993) the songs on Play It as It Lays deal with doubt, heartbreak, betrayal, uncertainty, anger, and restlessness, and find redemption in embracing them all as part of the whole.

I thought it was about her marriage with Springsteen. If so, I guess that includes doubt, heartbreak, betrayal, uncertainty, anger, and restlessness. All these make a whole. What a wonderful chemistry.

Co-produced with Steve Jordan and Ron Aniello, Scialfa's songwriting has developed into something so focused that its economy and its sharpness are as becoming as a shiny new stiletto — one that cuts deep but leaves the most beautiful of scars. The band employed here is essentially the same (without the high-profile guests spots of Marc Ribot and John Medeski): Willie Weeks, Nils Lofgren, Clifford Carter, and Bruce Springsteen (who are affectionately dubbed the "Whack Brothers Rhythm Section"), with Michelle Moore, Cindy Mizelle, Curtis King, and Soozie Tyrell (who also plays violin on a pair of cuts) helping on backing vocals. But the sound, while rooted in the same blend of American roots styles that Scialfa's songs always have, is wider and deeper. There is more reliance on blues, soul, and gospel here while the rootsy back porch, street corner rock & roll, and countrified folk are retained.These ten songs are tight, there isn't an extra word in any of them. The melodies are taut like wire, enveloping her words, and the plights, determinations, and failings of her protagonists are filled with passion, Eros, and agape, the purest love of all.

I've listened to two of the songs. They're not tight nor are they filled with passion, Eros, and agape, the purest love of all. This writer attended the same school of psychobabble as Springsteen and Scialfa.

What's more, it feels like this is a record of survival and the guts to go on, to be wrong, if that's what it takes, and move forward with all of that mess now on the canvas. Her subjects — though she speaks solely in the first person in each song here — are steeped in a passion for living, not just in their souls, but in their bodies, in their heads, for the experience that love promises yet whose shadow always delivers. And they accept it, while refusing to settle for anything less.

What bs! I assume her songs are so shallow that all this psychobabble is suppose to sell them. The characters; the desperation; the triumph! Oh, my! Why is it that Springsteen and Scialfa always have these indepth explanations about their songs? Or, should I say the reviewers always seem to have these indepth explanations about Scialfa's songs. Very creative imaginations, I would say. A song is a song is a song. When someone has to go to such extremes to explain a song, it's usually because it has no in depth meaning.

A dulled, primal tom tom and a dobro introduce the album's country-blues drenched first track, "Looking for Elvis." The title may seem a cliché, but the lyrics and melody are anything but. The protagonist travels to someplace "south of nowhere" looking for something, longing to be somewhere, anywhere other than where she found herself before flight. She's wrapped in grief, betrayal, and disillusionment and asks the real existential question of the empty raining sky: "So where are you now/With all those Illusions/Fallen dreams and charity/It faith restores you/And truth delivers/Then don't tell me I'm standing/when I'm, on my knees..." however, by track's end, she finds what she needs, not outside but at the crossroads inside herself, at the crossroads "West of Babylon/East of Eden/I'm breathing in these winds of change/I'm going to rise up from these ashes/Gonna rise up and find the truth again..." the backing vocals enter with a gospel refrain and underscore every line; Scialfa sings with the big red river of truth falling from her mouth like rushing water over the rocks. And this song is the beginning of a journey, where desire and brokenness go to war inside the heart of the woman who wants to know, has to know, if she's been living a lie. No matter the outcome, what's left is pulsing, rippling and rampant: faith, hope, love (both carnal and divine), companionship, and wholeness. If there's any doubt, just dig deep into the disc's second tune, "Like Any Woman Would," where a lap steel and cracking rim-shot snare wind around the acoustic guitars and usher in the lyric with the support of a call and response backing chorus. She offers her view; she wonders what her partner's love really means, and speaks of the wounds she and all women feel at being regarded as something "less than." "Play Around" is a soft, sweet, soul tune that Scialfa's grainy reed contralto delivers big in. Her delivery is relaxed as it floats above a B-3, hand drums and a drum kit before the band fully kicks in. She's ready to walk: "I'm not going to walk/On your high wire/I'm not going to jump/Through all your little hoops of fire...This is no day of judgment/I'm not waiting for you to confess...I'm not waiting on anything/I'm just walking free/Well you can play around/But don't you play around me..." The tune is brief, and its melody and dynamic are soothing, yet the lyrics are loaded.As it moves on through the funky wanton delight of "Rainy Day Man," with its sultry lyrics and even sexier delivery strolling through early-'60s shuffling rhythm & blues, the listener can clearly hear the singer walking through the desert of ambivalence. There is a core belief in the redemption of love that will not be shaken in the heart no matter what seems to be transpiring on the surface of life. But it's a realistic view: she's way past the knight in shining armor, she's looking for a promise of totality, but is willing to pay whatever price necessary to get there — including the truth that the Other is always as far from perfect as she is. "The Word," emerging from the blues, creatively uses the "Sally Go Round the Roses" (and credits it), as a look at the unvarnished truth, no matter how wide the contrast is with what she believes.Ushering in the title cut, a shuffling funky backbeat is underscored gently by an acoustic guitar, a soft B-3 and Tyrell's violins. The narrative location is once more an empty road — just as on the opener — and the time of reflection is over. It gives way to an acceptance of the protagonist's own faults as well as those of her Beloved: "Every perfect picture /hides a mess or two/Sometimes it's me/Sometimes it's you..."But I remember the first time/That I lay down inside your arms/And how I kissed your tired mouth/So full of grace/So empty of harm/And I how I knew/The road ahead/ Would unravel itself/Cursed and charmed/And I would just/Play it as it lays..." the recollection of "through thick and thin, no matter what" gets revealed, and the personal accountability here, wrapped so sweetly and tenderly in this melody reveals nothing less than courage: to see it as it is, and to continue walking bloody and torn. It's far from codependent: it's honest and it is as if the singer is looking at herself in a mirror with the reflection of her Beloved behind her speaking the words to him while looking hard at herself. Such beauty can only be heartbreaking. The set ends with "Black Ladder." Despite its title, it's a love song. She has seen the deepest wells of darkness in her lover's heart, and he's seen hers. What's left is simply that love, kicked around, bruised and torn, remains, and the cracks have created something so much more open and free: the freedom to offer love for its own sake, and for the sake of the Other. The freedom to accept the same. At just over two minutes, with a Rhodes piano and an acoustic guitar, it's the most skeletal song on the album. And it needs to be. Scialfa's voice is way up front. It's one of the quietest anthems ever. There is real vulnerability here, and the protagonist is far stronger for the courage to reflect it in her own eyes and read it in the eyes of the other. The track simply ends, a second or two after he final words: "I still care."Play It as It Lays may be melancholy and downright dark in places, but it never feels oppressive. It doesn't need to bet on the silver lining — even if it's only a sliver of one in places — because there's a resiliency, an unshakable faith, that living itself is a lining. This is the place where we get to see the fully developed, crafted songwriter at her best. It is the unfairness of the culture that we've had to view her in the shadow of her husband's stature, but no more. While Rumble Doll bravely tested the waters of songwriting and recording, and 23rd Street Lullaby offered increased confidence in the real possibilities those endeavors would pay off in and of themselves, Play It as It Lays is, without doubt, the record where Scialfa gives us the full fruit of her exceptional gift as a writer, a singer, as an artist. (Now, if she'd only tour...)

Blah, blah and more blah!!

09-03-2007, 08:54 PM
Oh, yes, the up and coming new artist in her 50's. Hearing Springsteen on the bullet mic and harmonica on Scialfa's "Looking for Elvis" song brought back memories of the Devils and Dust tour for one poster.

Oh, those memories of a Springsteen show!

They just live on forever, stuck in the minds, of his worshippers.

Maybe it's post traumatic stress syndrome.

09-04-2007, 10:20 AM
So sweet, isn't it that Springsteen climbed into the back of his SUV while exiting Rockefeller Plaza this morning after Scialfa's appearance on the Today Show.

Yes, it is Scailfa's time in the spotlight and he certainly went to great lengths to afford her that.

What a heroic gesture by Springsteen and what a large spotlight Scialfa faced this morning on the Today Show.

She signed a few autographs for a few fans and sang one of her songs from her new CD.

09-04-2007, 02:12 PM
You know, when people have to constantly say over and over again everytime they see someone or something how beautiful, great or sexy it/they look, it isn't sincere.

Such as the constant comments about Springsteen and Scialfa.

If everytime my husband walked by me and said I looked great, I'd begin to wonder if I really didn't look great!

One poster saw Springsteen in New York today after The Today Show appearance by Scialfa.

Having a quick look, he was able to ascertain that Springsteen is ready to tour.

How do you look at someone and know that they are ready to tour?

Does Springsteen look any different than he did when he was touring with The Seeger Sessions Band?

IMO, no.

But, he certainly has a full head of locks on the cover of the Magic album.

That's the only difference I see.

If a music critic writes a long-winded review about a CD, such as Scialfa's, it usually means there isn't much to say about it so he's trying to make it sound better than it is.

If Springsteen fans have to constantly comment about his voice and how great it is; about his songs and how deep they are, it usually means they aren't.

It goes without saying when something is beautiful.

It goes without saying when something is magnificicent.

Most of what is written about Springsteen and Scialfa is hype, because, as I said, it goes without saying.

09-04-2007, 02:24 PM
Since today is the release day for Scialfa's new CD, is it any wonder that it's number 3 at amazon?

What are the total sales for "23rd Street Lullaby" and "Rumble Doll?"

Are those sales the reason Scialfa recorded her new CD in her garage and isn't provided with a studio?

One poster comments, good for Bruce and Patti cause apparently Springsteen's at number one, they deserve the success.


These fanatics haven't considered that their hero or his wife are successful after decades of following their leader?

They measure success based on record sales?


09-04-2007, 02:34 PM
Yes, I'd have to agree.

The "Radio Nowhere" video is marginal.

Springsteen says he wants to hear a thousand guitars, pounding drums, yet the song lacks in this area.

You'd expect to see Max pounding the drums, Van Zandt and Nils on the guitars.

I didn't see this, so who is producing the music?

Scialfa's in the corner with her unplugged guitar.

Springsteen is strumming.

You see "dark" clips of Scialfa and Van Zandt singing the chorus with the usual question, "why is she there?"

She's not belting out a melody.

You can't hear her voice or Van Zandt's.

Springsteen looks constipated, as usual.

Doesn't look likes he's enjoying himself one bit.

You would think with the chorus, "Is there anybody alive out there," the video would show hundreds of people in Times Square, or something.

But, you get a picture of a man scaling a wall.

Weak, shallow and depressing.

Springsteen just isn't video material.

09-04-2007, 04:13 PM
A Little Steven sighting:


He was sitting right behind the entrance of a restaurant that a poster at BTX was eating at with this wife.

None other than Little Steven.

Oh, my goodness!

The poster was freaking out inside. Stevie was dressed just as we'd expect him to be.

Have you ever seen him wear anything else other than when he's on the Soprano's?

Little Stevie was talking to his wife but the poster was listening in and he overheard him discussing shows and going backstage with Maureen, as he would leave her passes.

He won't tell anyone if he approached him or not but it was damn neat to eat right next to Stevie and from this, the poster ascertains that he is really COOL.

I wonder, since it was this poster's anniversary dinner, did he pay any attention to his wife or was he all giddy over seeing Little Stevie?

Yeah, those E Street Band members, Springsteen and Scialfa, are all WAY COOL MAN.

09-04-2007, 05:46 PM
One poster at BTX comments on the political board that when it was down, he didn't notice Vast or X making any comments in other areas of the forum, like the Promised Land, etc.

This is suppose to indicate that they're not Bruce fans.

In actuality, Patriot and many other posters didn't make comments in other forums either, but this poster, Gaz, would never criticize Patriot.

They claim X is a Bruce hater and troll on a Bruce site.

X says:

I love his music, but I'm disappointed in his politics and his past personal behavior, but we all make mistakes, and we can all be redeemed.

Personally, I can't stand the man and his music, but that's a personal matter.

To say you're disappointed with someone's politics or past personal behavior is to say you expected more from them.

Why would anyone, if they don't have a personal relationship with Springsteen, expect more from him?

I, on the otherhand, expect nothing less.

Springsteen is what he is.

Yes, we all make mistakes, but when you are a "sadistic pig," when this is your nature, it is not a mistake.

It is what it is.

It is what you are.

When someone rapes a woman, is that a mistake?

When someone commits murder, is that a mistake?

Yes, some people can be redeemed, but not all. As far as Springsteen and the others who practice pedophilia, sexually deviant behavior and are part of the "satanic cult," they cannot and will never be redeemed.

09-04-2007, 06:33 PM
I wonder what poor "personal behavior" X is referring to.

He didn't say PUBLIC BEHAVIOR.


As far as VAST being a Bruce hater.

Not so.

On the official site, he started a thread that read:

"I've Loved Bruce Springseen Since I was Teenager."

There was also a time when the site was being flooded with what they referred to as Drudge trolls swarming the forum after a political statement that Springsteen made.

Somehow there were questions being asked about the instruments/guitars Springsteen plays.

Vast was the only poster on the site who was able to post pictures and details about the instruments Springsteen plays.

I'm not sure, but I think the Drudge trolls were a set-up.

At one point, one of them said, Springsteen's going to divorce his wife and marry that ugly girl.



On another note.

All this talk about Patti having her time in the spotlight and Springsteen being the gentlemen to allow her this.

As if somehow he's trampled on her career.

He gave her a career.

As if she is a fabulous singer/songwriter and because of his mere existence and popularity the world doesn't recognize this.

Perhaps, had she not married Springsteen, she would have been a famous singer/songwriter in her own right.

Maybe that was her mistake. Seems to be what she and everyone else insinuates.

Intersting how SHE needs him to perform on her albums to attract attention, to perform at her shows for "23rd Street Lullaby."

She should take her own advice and "just say no!"

Do you ever hear Faith Hill complaining that if it weren't for Tim McGraw she would be famous?


Because they are both famous in their own right.

Patti Scialfa is what she is because of Springsteen.

It's not that she isn't what she could have been because of him.

09-04-2007, 06:48 PM
Patti Scialfa, as I said, is on the Letterman show tonight and Clinton is also a guest.

Seems, 2Hearts believes Clinton and Springsteen will be in the green room together.

Yes, I'm sure Springsteen will be giving Clinton some political advice.

2Hearts would love to be a fly on the wall.

Not sure about that, 2Hearts!

They might be making plans on where to meet up later for a secret encounter or engaging in a sexual act with each other.

You know, both men seem to have the same set of morals and they do both acknowledge the "code of silence."

Cut from the same cloth.

Sexual deviants.

Remember, I encountered Clinton as a child and was used to sexually blackmail him.

09-04-2007, 08:00 PM
So, when Patti Scialfa joined the E Street Band she had this great solo career going, but threw it all away and chose to become a part of the band as a back-up singer.

And, how many CDs did she release before she joined the E Street Band?

I think the number would be zero.

09-04-2007, 08:54 PM
The "Radio Nowhere" video is horrible. This isn't just my opinion. It is a consensus.

Sanctified4one explains it this way:

I love it... is expresses perfectly: Is there anybody alive out there?

It's void of everything... (including color)
Which was necessary to express the lack of that missing connection.

The connection that he is searching the streets for...



Oh, yes another dark, desperate, Springsteen song, dancing in a dark hole, turning a dead dial, searching for some soul, some connection, somebody who is alive out there.


Springsteen is searching the streets for a connection.

I know he's disconnected from reality and all, but he's looking for a connection to something/someone out in the streets?

Yeah, just what people want is a music video and song that's void of everything.

Just like he portrays himself to be and just exactly what he is!

Why in the hell does Springsteen ask "Is there anybody alive out there?"

It is such a DUMB question.

09-04-2007, 08:56 PM
The Patti on Letterman WATCH thread is up and running several hours before it airs!

Going to be earth shattering!

09-04-2007, 08:58 PM
I think Springsteen's fans live in the same dark hole he does.

09-04-2007, 09:02 PM
Like I said, Springsteen's fans live in the same dark hole he does.

Bring'emhome says she loves it.

Powerful and desperate.

The video has no power to it at all and shows no desperation.

You see, they rejoice in Springsteen's desperation.

Which is their own.

09-04-2007, 11:28 PM
Here's my review of the Patti Scialfa performance on David Letterman.

A very boring performer.

Guitar is too big.

She strums it like she can't really play it.

Her pronounciation is very strange.

Her voice is annoying.

Four back-up singers definitely overkill.

Song goes nowhere.

Kind of like "Radio Nowhere."

Magicinthenight from BTX seems to have turned schizophrenic. Once a Patti basher; now a Patti lover.

I just critique.

Magicinthenight says:

From the songs I've heard from her new album - This is an unusual choice to be showcasing on TV. "Play it as it lays" is a beauiful and heartfelt song and I would have liked to have seen her perform that - Her voice is sweet as opposed to this "gritty" vocal on "A Town called Heartbreak".

This from someone who previously said she can't stand her voice. Now, all of a sudden it's sweet. She refers to her vocal in "A Town called Heartbreak" as gritty. HUH?? Nothing gritty at all. Completely garbled.

I don't like this song. Her performance was very good, Steve Jordan cool but the rest of the musicains were not very lively.

No one was lively. Like I said. Boring! Like Dave said. Good music. See you later.

Too many backing singers.

The focus should have been on the song.

She looks gorgeous - I love her hair and I hope I look that good at her age. She was very gracious and charming at the end.

She's in love with Patti's hair. Why does she wear bangs in her eyes? Does she think her hair is the only thing she has going for her? You can't live your life depending on your hair to get you through it. Very gracious and charming at the end. HUH?? What were you watching? She shook Letterman's hand and giggled. Not a word was spoken between either of them. Patti's not gorgeous. She's normal looking.

So a mixed review from me!

No one really cares about your review.

09-04-2007, 11:35 PM
What's with Scialfa's wardrobe?

Why does she most times wear black?

Some color would do wonders.

Even a little lipstick might help.

Maybe something sexy would help her in her attempt to launch a successful career at the age of 52!

Just a few suggestions.

09-04-2007, 11:42 PM
What is "A Town Called Heartbreak?"

It's not rock.

It's not pop.

It's not the blues.

It's not country.

It's not folk.

It doesn't fit anywhere because of Scialfa's inability to define her vocals.

One poster thinks she might have a shot at airplay on a country station.

Forgoodness sakes, this is all a show.

It's appeasing Patti's failure in the music industry.

It is so she doesn't think she didn't make it as a solo artist.

Scialfa's in her 50's.

Do you think she's just going to all of a sudden become a sensation overnight with this CD?

Get real!

09-05-2007, 12:07 AM
Magicinthenight at BTX says Scialfa was gracious at the end of her performance on the Letterman show as if this is unexpected of a guest. Something unusual for Scialfa or maybe magicinthenight expected her to spit in Dave's face or something.

Aren't most people gracious or is this a heroic act only accomplished by Scialfa. To be gracious.

Dave didn't mention Springsteen, one poster comments.

I assume this is because Matt Lauer did when she was on The Today Show.

What else can they say?

She has no background.

Either mention Springsteen as Matt did or say nothing as Dave did.

She is connected to the music industry through Springsteen.

Matt and Dave probably don't have her CD's at home.

She is not a well-known solo artist or well-known for her role as a back-up singer with the E Street Band because you can't really hear her in that capacity most times.

It's just all very, very weak.

Do you think most people would know who she is if it wasn't mentioned that she's married to Sprinsteen?

The answer is no.

09-05-2007, 10:34 AM
Of course, some music critics are going to give Scialfa's new CD a glowing review.

THE MUSIC MOBSTERS want you to buy it!

I just watched Scialfa perfom on The Today Show.

What is the deal with the "little girl" shy act and rubbing shoulders with Matt?

With Springsteen and Scialfa it's always about how they're exploring this or that in their lyrics/songs.

It's like filler because the song has no meaning or depth when you read the lyrics, just like "Radio Nowhere."

The music isn't great, the lyrics don't say anything, so they explain their songs with "psychobabble" being some kind of personal journey/exploration.

Oh, yeah.

Town Called Heartbreak.

What a genius lyrical composition about relationships.

09-05-2007, 10:38 AM
It's really no big deal that Jon Landau is Scialfa's management company.

Afterall, she is Mrs. Springsteen and Jon Landau is Mr. Springsteen's management.

However, in the case of Scialfa, there isn't much to manage.

09-05-2007, 10:39 AM
A poster said that perhaps Scialfa wears the pants in the family.

Obviously, that's all she ever wears.

Ties, suits, black clothes.

09-05-2007, 11:03 AM
One poster says, "Patti show 'em what you've got" as far as her appearance on Letterman.

She's in her 50's.


Is she continuing to evolve, grow and change like Springsteen?

If she hasn't shown you what she has yet that means she doesn't have it.

Another poster says Letterman didn't mention Springsteen.

He let Patti stand on her own.


I'll say.

He introduced her.

After her song, walked over, shook her hand and said, "great music."


Another poster comments that it was an awesome performance.

She likens Clinton and Scialfa together on the same show as an amazing night.

This poster says the Seeger Sessions experience made her more emotive and expressive.

Gee, I must have missed that.

Was that when she put her right arm up in the air?

They keep thinkin' somehow she's going to be a "big star" someday.

09-05-2007, 02:08 PM
Scialfa certainly benefits from being married to Springsteen and she should.

However, she is NOT a great singer/songwriter in her own right and benefiting from his connection to the music industry just underscores that she is not a great singer/songwriter.

Otherwise, who would produce her records?

I'm betting no one!

I benefit from my husband all the time. Nothing wrong with that.

I think it's the fact that Scialfa is constantly whining in interviews that she hasn't received the success and acclaimation she deserves because, being married to Springsteen, overshadows her talent as a solo artist.

This, coupled with the writer's who continually inject this into their reviews about her music.

This, of course, an excuse.

If she's going to constantly blame her huband for her lack of success as a solo artist in her own right, then she sounds like a hypocrite when, if not for her marriage to Springsteen and his management company she wouldn't be known otherwise or have released three CDs.

Perhaps she should be thanking him.

Not that I would thank THE MAN for anything.

They can only work with so much and not so little.

Which is what she has.

09-05-2007, 04:06 PM
There are so many famous people married to famous people; one more famous then the other and in the same entertainment industry who don't continually whine about being in their spouse's shadow because he/she is more famous and, because of this, they are not recognized by the public for their talents.

If you've got it; you've got it. It doesn't matter if your spouse is more famous than you are.

Records sales and the draw at the box office speak to your popularity.

Accept reality; quit whining; grow up.

These people are comfortable with who they are and don't constantly blame their failure within the industry, if this is the case, because their partner's status interferes with the public recognizing them.

Scialfa's released her CDs. The public has spoken.

The added benefit is being married to Springsteen and Springsteen fans being drawn to her and buying her CD because of that and because he plays on her recordings.

You know, the constant repetition of how Scialfa is in the shadow of Springsteen is just so ridiculous.

She put herself out there and the public has spoken.

She is Mrs. Springsteen; a mediocre guitar player; if it really is plugged in and a voice that sounds like nails on a chalkboard.

Accept reality.

She isn't gorgeous. She has a pleasant face.

Accept reality.

Julianne Philips was gorgeous.

Constant repetition about how great the song "Radio Nowhere" is; how it's going to change radio airplay; how great Scialfa looks; etc., is OVERKILL for a reason.

Cause the song isn't great; it's not going to change anything and as I said, Scialfa is attractive, but not gorgeous or SEXY, IMO.

As I stated, with her unique introspective into relationships that she supposedly addresses in her lyrics, she ought to know how to handle it.

Is she a child?

Obviously, she should have known whom she was marrying and if she thought for some reason she would somehow be bigger than Springsteen, she is delusional.

If she actually thinks she is talented and that because she's married to Springsteen, she is not recognized, someone has steered her wrong or she doesn't want to face reality.

One poster comments that some of Springsteen's fans have terminal jealousy of Scialfa's perks being married to Springsteen.

How pathetic is that?

She embarrasses herself when she sings.

That's a perk?

Maybe Springsteen ought to tell her that she doesn't have any talent worth showcasing on a solo CD.

09-05-2007, 08:40 PM
Scialfa's video is on Country Music Television and Doc Holiday is thoroughly impressed. It's excellent, he says. In rotation, too!

Apparently, they found a place to fit her music; although it certainly isn't country.

I guess she's finally making a break-through into the Country Music industry.


Don't you just wish she'd become famous already!

09-05-2007, 08:45 PM
You know, The First Lady of Love and Rightful Owner of the song, "Redheaded Woman" deserves not to be in The Boss' shadow for the rest of her life.


It's so pathetic and sad. Posters at BTX who are taking time off work, nervous about getting tickets to an E Street Band Show.

One poster expresses this in a thread and another poster tells him to chill and then another says that he's just expressing his love for BRUCE.

Yeah, in the form of neurosis.

It's not like these people have never seen him before.

They follow him.

They're obsessed.

You know, if you're a teenager that's one thing, but middle-aged.

Oh, yeah, I forgot. They've had their state of consciousness altered to that of children.

Then there are the posters who talk about how during the show at Christmas time, they'll have to take Jessica to a horse show in Florida, Evan to this and, blah, blah, blah.

Incredible, but true.

09-06-2007, 11:12 AM
From what I understand, Scialfa was on The View today and the crowd was loud for her.

One poster says that was nice to see.

What did he expect?

Doesn't the audience usually applaud when a guest appears and isn't applause usually loud?

Did he think they were going to BOO her?

09-06-2007, 11:22 AM
From USA today.

Just scroll down to the photo gallery and click on celebrities.

A poster at BTX says there's a nice photo of OUR BOY (Springsteen) with Ari Gold at a Gucci show.

Looks like Springsteen is a rich man in rich man's clothes this time.


Of course, the comments are that he looks soooo good.


Take off your rose-colored glasses.

It's not what's on the outside that counts.

It's what's on the inside.

But, even the outside isn't appealing.

He looks exhausted, unhappy and/or three sheets to the wind.

That old saying:

"You can't judge a book by it's cover," and when you open the cover of Springsteen's song book, you definitely have a picture as to what he is on the inside.

He portrays much of it on the outside too, in public.

He may appear to look good to you, but, you never know what's going on in the inside.

If you don't feel good on the inside, you don't look good on the outside and, IMO Springsteen's outside appearance reflects what's going on inside.

Exhausted or three sheets to the wind?

Very unappealing.

09-06-2007, 11:28 AM
One poster is interested to know if they should expect a Rolling Stone cover story and interview and a Time and Newsweek interview and stories on the album MAGIC because he thinks this is what occurred with The Rising.

Gee, I don't know.

But, I'm sure you'll be real excited if this happens so you can read some more psychobabble and fabricated stories that Springsteen makes up about his albums.

Oh, yes!

Always an in-depth analysis about nothing.

I'll cross my fingers for you, pal!

09-06-2007, 11:32 AM
The wrinklies of rock rattle their way to the Odyssey

Wednesday, September 05, 2007

By Maureen Coleman

A host of wrinkly rockers have been lined up to play at the Odyssey Arena over the next few months, it was announced today.

Rod Stewart, Meatloaf and Madness will be heading to Belfast as part of Aiken promotions autumn/winter schedule.

Rod returns to the Odyssey on November 3 while Meatloaf is back in the city on November 22.

On December 7 it is the turn of legendary Nutty Boys, Madness, to rock the Odyssey.

The announcement comes just days after it was confirmed that Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band are set to play the venue on December 15.

The first-class programme reinforces the view that Belfast is gaining a strong reputation among the world's top performing artists.

Promoter Peter Aiken said: "We are delighted that such a high calibre of artists has agreed to come to Belfast over the coming months.

"It's a testament to the city and its venues, which can more than hold their own against similar venues throughout Europe.

"Last month, George Michael chose to end his European tour in Belfast and was amazed by the crowd's reaction to the gig. Because of the audience participation, and therefore the unrivalled atmosphere in the Odyssey, he considered it one of the best nights of his entire tour."

Last year, The Boss, Bruce Springsteen, brought his Seeger Sessions Band to the Odyssey, performing a sell-out show for thousands of fans.

This year sees his return with The E Street Band, forming one of only two UK dates.

Peter said: "It's certainly a reflection on Belfast that Bruce Springsteen has chosen to come here on tour.

Oh, yeah. If Springsteen comes to your town it certainly reflects on your city. Really? In what way? He's gracing you with his presence? Oh, yes. In that regard, by all means, you should feel honored.

"Last year's concert was an incredible event for the city and made a big impact on the artist.

"The people of Northern Ireland enjoy being entertained and for a performer there is nothing more rewarding than playing to a hugely enthusiastic audience, for which Belfast is becoming renowned."

09-06-2007, 01:59 PM
Some comments from posters at BTX about Scialfa's appearance on The View:

Patti sounded lovely and had a nice little interview. She sang beautifully and the band was great too. Nils is awesome!! So pretty and so talented, it's easy to see why Bruce is so crazy for her! I'm really enjoying her new songs. Thanks Patti!

The band is mediocre. Patti doesn't have a beautiful voice nor is she so talented. So, Springsteen is crazy for Patti cause she has a great voice, is so talented and is pleasant looking in your opinion. That's pretty shallow, don't you think? But, these posters at BTX know all about the Springsteen's personal lives.

Another posters says:

just saw it on DVR and she was smokin'

Oh, yeah, she was smokin' up the place.

This is her breakthrough record, with performances like this one

Thank goodness. I hope she's finally broken through to the other side so all the hype about how good she is will finally be recognized.

didn't quite get Elizabeth's negativity on marriage during the chat portion, though; she is always so upbeat about marriage; but Patti handled it well, and talked about how challenging it is, even if you're alone, to guard your autonomy

You didn't get the negativity? Why? You don't think anyone might feel negativity about Scialfa and Springsteen? That's quite narrow minded. What's with Scialfa always using the word autonomy? I really don't think the word is appropriate in this regard. It means freedom of action. Obviously, she practices freedom of actions.

most substantial interview I've ever heard with Patti on American tv

WOW! She in her 50's and this is the most substantial interview she's done? I wonder why? She's a musician. It's not like she's Mother Teresa. Do you think that everyone thinks The Boss and Scialfa are as interesting as you do? Apparently so.

glad to hear she's #3 on Amazon this morning

Oh, yes, thank goodness she's number three at Amazon. I'm pullin' for her.

Another poster's comments:

I thought Elisabeth was rather snide when Patti mentioned that she'd been married 16 years (rather than the assumed 20), and that they had had a child before they were married. Elisabeth woo-hoo'ed and shimmied her shoulders in a very immature way - as if having a child out of wedlock was sassy and risque. She's a weird chick, that Elisabeth. Overall, I think Patti did well. I'm always impressed with her poise, vocabulary and graciousness. Nice performance, too - especially nice to see Nils get some airtime, too!

Maybe Elizabeth thinks Patti's a weird chick. Everyone doesn't have to approve of everything the Springsteen's do. Not all worship them. Oh, yes, Patti's poise, graciousness and vocabulary are astounding. Better than I've ever witnessed.

I thought it was interesting that Patti mentioned Bruce being unhappy that she was singing about their marriage--but the interviewers didn't pursue it. (He can't be THAT unhappy about it if he played on a lot of the tracks.)

Looking for Elvis and A Town Called Heartbreak are about their marriage?? Come on! I think Springsteen and Patti must both be delusional. I'll have to read these lyrics. Why would the interviewers pursue questioning the songs being about their marriage? People aren't interested in the Springsteen's marriage. Maybe their selling this BS; airing their laundry in order to attract people like obsessed Springsteen fans who would be interested in knowing about their marriage. Seems they already have it figured out according to their posts; however.

Another comment:

I managed to watch it. Patti and band were real good! I hope she takes to the road after the ESB tour is over. I'd love to see her in concert with the band she had both on the Today Show and the View.

Yep. After the ESB tour, there will sure be a lot of interest in Patti's old CD.

I do get a kick how Whoopi rolls her eyes at her, like, "are you for real", when she mentioned the marriage thing. I wish Whoopi would say what's on her mind when those big old eyes are rolling or just tell Elisabeth to "STFU" already.

Oh, yeah. How mature. Whoopi telling Elisabeth to STFU. What? Patti needs Whoopi to defend her. Everyone knows how Patti and Springsteen evolved. It's not a secret.

Another BTX poster comment:

I liked that one, but I'm starting to wonder if the band knows any other songs. Hasn't it been the same on all 3 shows so far? Odds on it being that one again tonight?

Same song three times now. How boring. Same song on Conan, I assume, too.

They don't get why she's singing a song from her CD that isn't the most popular.

Maybe it's the only one she and the band can play together live.

Maybe that's another reason why she doesn't tour.

09-06-2007, 02:08 PM
One poster comments about Elisabeth's negativity toward Patti on the view:

Elisabeth is an ultra-conservative, uptight dolt. To quote Paul Reiser in the excellent movie 'Diner', "You ever talk to her? Not a smart girl".


Yep! If Paul Reiser said it, it must be true.

Some people are conservative and obviously understand that Scialfa and Springsteen are sexually liberated and display this liberation publicly.

To each their own.

Not everyone has to accept Springsteen and Scialfa for their behavior.

Of course, they haven't delved into Springsteen's lyrics as I have, but, nonetheless, not everyone has to respect them.

Afterall, they have three children.

09-06-2007, 02:51 PM
Isthatmebaby is so excited, as the other children are because a thread has been titled, "Bruce, the Photographer."

As I said, he supposedly took some intimate photos of Scialfa for her CD and they are included in an accompanying booklet.

I'm sure his fans want to buy her CD so they can see the masterpiece photographs Springsteen snapped because, in addition, to being a genius singer/songwriter, a hero, a legend, a cult leader, a mind controller/abuser/handler, pedophile and sexual deviant, he is also a professional photographer.

Kind of like playing on her CD, so his fans will buy Scialfa's CD.

Anyway, it's unbelievable.

Springsteen can actually use a camera and knows how to take pictures.


The thread so far shows him with camera in hand while someone else is photographing Springsteen.

I'm telling you.

The man may be in the wrong business.

09-06-2007, 03:28 PM
Movielady at BTX thinks Scialfa's appearance on The View was a missed opportunity because Whoopi wasn't doing the interviewing.


Is there something else Scialfa needs to showcase besides her genius singer/songwriting abilities?

Whatever it may be, I'm at a loss.

It wasn't the Whoopi Goldberg Show!

09-06-2007, 03:35 PM
There is a picture of Springsteen and Pavarotti at Springsteen's ranch.

They all hang with the same crowd. Bono and Sting attended Pavarottis' wedding.

I'm sure you know my opinion about those two!

So many pictures of Springsteen with MEN.

Well, like I said.

He's a sexual deviant. He likes men, little girls and boys much more than women. You can tell so through his degrading lyrics about females.

The picture is from Pavarotti's book called "My World". In the book Pavarotti tells a great story of his friendship with Bruce and he also says Bruce is a great singer and he would love to someday perform with him.


Will Springsteen be attending the funeral?

What else is Pavarotti going to say about Springsteen's voice?

He would loved to have performed with Springsteen???


Oh, I could see that!!

I think the man was being gracious.

09-21-2007, 11:07 AM
What about Carrie Underwood?



JESUS TAKE THE WHEEL (http://language.chinadaily.com.cn/audio/song/jesus_take_the_wheel.mp3)

09-22-2007, 09:24 AM
BlueAngel wrote:
Lord, have Mercy!

You can say that again!


09-22-2007, 11:08 AM
BlueAngel wrote:
My comment, "Lord, have Mercy!" was not made in response to any comment that George_Bush made on this thread and/or pictures that he posted.

Fine! Be that way! I'm just trying to get to the bottom of a tense situation!


09-22-2007, 11:22 AM
I mean I'm new to this stuff. I'm just a regular, law-abiding, tax-paying (when I have a job) citizen.

I've heard people say stuff about music industry and Illuminati.

But Carrie Underwood?

She's cute! I love her!

And I'd just like to say that it's not because of the 'genre' she sings, or her American Idol fame, or even her entertainment value with me. I'm not 'Starstruck', ok.

It's her looks and her body that draw me to her.


09-22-2007, 11:30 AM
And I also love her because she helps children.

Carrie...I'll stand by you too! :cry:


09-22-2007, 11:45 AM
Ok...so like...what about Polyphonic Spree?

LIGHT AND DAY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQAvflPexng&mode=related&search=)

09-22-2007, 11:49 AM
And what aboot 5th Dimension, man?!!

DAWNING OF THE AGE OF AQUARIUS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uONF0zJz2Oo&mode=related&search=)

I mean, that's SOOO Star Trek, man!

They're like floating on some hoverpod or something....they're just floating out in the steller regions and stuff, man!

I mean it's like....every cloud has a silver lining, man!!!

Yeah...it's like the Moon in someone's House and Leo aligned with Martians...and Peace, man!

I mean the VIBES man! The (((((VIBES))))!!!

09-22-2007, 01:41 PM
BlueAngel wrote:
Apparently, this site doesn't know when Springsteen's birthday is.







09-22-2007, 02:01 PM
BlueAngel wrote:
I wonder why they don't have the correct birthday for a world renowned hero!



Sept. 23 is my Birthday too!

I cannot believe this! I share a Birthday with the BOSS!


Well, then...I guess IT'S TIME FOR A LITTLE BOSS ROCK MAN!!!

Bruce Springsteen-Born In The U.S.A.! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPudiBR15mk&mode=related&search=)

Just look at that guy :-D Even '85 he was a living fossil.

Yeah, ROCK ON '85!

09-28-2007, 09:04 AM
This topic is really hard to follow...

I couldnt read all these posts, but, my opinion in general, is that music is a form of language, that can penetrate deep in the mind of every person. So it is easy to promote your message hidden inside music. It is obvious that satanists and Atheists promote their ideas via music, it is nothing new.

10-01-2007, 01:21 PM
BlueAngel wrote:
Is there anything worse than a "satanist," such as Bruce Springsteen, pretending to be a Christian?

Is there anything worse than a devilworshipper like you pretending like you care whether or not Bruce Springsteen is a satanist pretending to be a Christian?

No, there isn't.

10-05-2007, 01:11 PM
BlueAngel wrote:

I mean, over at the Huffington Post there are four whole pages....

10-24-2007, 08:58 AM
BlueAngel wrote:
Santa Ana
Bruce Springsteen

From the tin rooftop the little boy did watch
The procession down through town
Through the museum where Daniel whupped the DEVIL
With them boys from the underground
Where the Giants of Science fight for tight control
Over the wildlands of New Mexico
Sam Houston's ghost's in Texas fighting for his soul
And the townsfolk rest uneasy beneath the guns of Kid Cole
And the kid says: "Hey, where's Santa Ana
He who could romance the dumb into talking
Take a chance with me tonight, my contessa,
If it don't work out I ain't lame, I can walk"
Now some folks think cancer's taken to the streets of this town
But Sandy eats her candy and then lays her money down
Them cats are in from the canyons to strut their stuff in town
But there's only secret sinners here
Lord, there's only secret thieves
Only a fool would try to save
What the desert chose to leave
And hey there se¡èorita,
With your playboys in their Spanish bandanas
French cream won't soften those boots, baby
French kisses will not break your heart

Oh painted night set free with light
Glows outside the Rainbow Saloon
Matching braces with a Spanish lady
'Neath a graduation moon
No more colleges, no more coronations
Some punk's idea of a teenage nation
Has forced Santa Ana to change his station
From soldier to cartoon
And the Giants of Science spend their days and nights
Not with wives, not with lovers, but searchin' for the lights
They spotted in the desert on their helicopter flights
Just to be lost in the dust and the night
Hey my Contessa, in your juke joint rags you always bring candy for the kids
Come waltz with me tonight senorita
Cuz only *fools* are alone on a night like this!




*gulp* Uuh...what? :-o

It's like a ghost story...it's like a cowboy ghost story...it's scary! It's like....it's like...

GHOST RIDERS IN THE SKY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R2M-s2HEC8)

10-24-2007, 10:51 AM
I would say that this Springsteen track is a little bit 'Walkeresche'..you know..

The Eyes of the Ranger (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDP9q-i5f_w)

10-24-2007, 10:55 AM
It's also a bit evocative of early proto-Americana era Lone Rangerness.

The Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjQPxtMv3vY)

10-24-2007, 10:58 AM
In Springsteen's artistic overtones, the critic may also be able to discover nuggetory thematic overtones of middle to late Bon Jovi era videos...

BLAZE OF GLORY!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upenR6n7xWY)

10-24-2007, 11:06 AM
There does seem to be a pattern also of the King of the Wild Frontier himself, Coloniel David Crockett and perhaps even something of his gun Betsy and some Texas Revolutionness and Almoish immigration control overtures..

King of the Wild Frontier

10-24-2007, 11:15 AM
John Wayne talks about The Alamo

10-24-2007, 11:30 AM
Bruce might be also discussing some Desperado stuff.

DESPERADO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQR6ghC-jPE)

10-24-2007, 12:03 PM
"Matching braces with a Spanish lady."

Yes, I think the imagry is starting to become clear. It's subtle, but Springsteen is a master of the making the dramatic point.

Dueling Braces (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsO4ukVjIzw)

Spanish Lady
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dorset/content/images/2006/05/03/spanishlady_301x400.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHOyPLSVam4)

10-25-2007, 10:14 AM
I fail to see how Mary's Place is violent in any way. It sounds like a love song to dance to at harvest moon. Very nice overtones, although I do not happen to be a practising Buddhist.

"Mary's Place" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21fRod4H30w)

I got seven pictures of Buddha
The prophet's on my tongue
Eleven angels of mercy
Sighin' over that black hole in the sun
My heart's dark but it's risin'
I'm pullin' all the faith I can see
From that black hole on the horizon
I hear your voice calling me

Let it rain, let it rain, let it rain
Let it rain, let it rain, let it rain, let it rain
Meet me at Mary's place, we're gonna have a party
Meet me at Mary's place, we're gonna have a party
Tell me how do we get this thing started
Meet me at Mary's place

Familiar faces around me
Laughter fills the air
Your loving grace surrounds me
Everybody's here
Furniture's out on the front porch
Music's up loud
I dream of you in my arms
I lose myself in the crowd

Let it rain, let it rain, let it rain
Let it rain, let it rain, let it rain, let it rain
Meet me at Mary's place, we're gonna have a party
Meet me at Mary's place, we're gonna have a party
Tell me how do you live broken-hearted
Meet me at Mary's place

I got a picture of you in my locket
I keep it close to my heart
A light shining in my breast
Leading me through the dark
Seven days, seven candles
In my window light your way
Your favorite record's on the turntable
I drop the needle and pray
Band's countin' out midnight
Floor's rumblin' loud
Singer's callin' up daylight
And waitin' for that shout from the crowd
Waitin' for that shout from the crowd
Waitin' for that shout from the crowd
Waitin' for that shout from the crowd
Waitin' for that shout from the crowd
Waitin' for that shout from the crowd

Turn it up, turn it up, turn it up
Turn it up, turn it up, turn it up, turn it up

Meet me at Mary's place, we're gonna have a party
Meet me at Mary's place, we're gonna have a party
Tell me how do we get this thing started
Meet me at Mary's place

Meet me at Mary's place
Meet me at Mary's place

10-25-2007, 10:47 AM
I suppose the Boss might drop a few suggestive lyrics in every now and again.

For example, one questions the meaning of Brilliant Disguise.

[quote]BRILLIANT DISGUISE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fx0E6EbpSn0)

I hold you in my arms as the band plays
What are those words whispered baby just as you turn away

[Yes, what ARE those words?]

I saw you last night out on the edge of town

[What exactly was he doing on the edge of town at such a late hour?]

I wanna read your mind and know just what Ive got in this new thing Ive found

[Why exactly does he want to read the subject's mind? Are we so coy as to believe that the Boss wants to be clairvoyant?]

So tell me what I see when I look in your eyes
Is that you baby or just a brilliant disguise

[Is the Boss creating an alter ego out of the 'baby'? And speaking of 'baby', I believe Patrick Swayzy said, 'Nobody puts Baby in a corner,' in the film Dirty Dancing. Is there a connection? Is the Boss talking about Jennifer Grey? Jennifer Grey was in Ferris Bueler's Day Off.]

I heard somebody call your name from underneath our willow

[How does someone call from underneath a willow unless they are BURIED under the Willow? Has the Boss BURIED someone that only 'baby' knows about?

Is it a zombie now that has come back to life?]

I saw something tucked in shame underneath your pillow

[Why was it 'tucked in shame'? What was 'something'. People usually place a newly pulled tooth under a pillow and at night the tooth fairly comes and puts some money in it's place. Is 'baby' ashamed of believing in the tooth fairy?]

Well Ive tried so hard baby but I just cant see
What a woman like you is doing with me

[I can't see it either, but appanently it's an ongoing situation]

So tell me what I see when I look in your eyes
Is that you baby or just a brilliant disguise

[And that really is the question, is it not? IS it you, baby? Or is it just a brilliant disguise?]

Now look at me baby struggling to do everything right
And then it all falls apart when out go the lights

[Why does it all fall apart when the lights go out? Is the Boss a wife beater?]

Im just a lonely pilgrim I walk this world in wealth
I want to know if its you I dont trust cause I damn sure dont trust

Now you play the loving woman Ill play the faithful man

[So the Boss is admiting to infidelity on his spouse?]

But just dont look too close into the palm of my hand

[Why? Just what exactly is in the palm of his hand?]

We stood at the alter the gypsy swore our future was right

[Did they engage in pagan ritual?]

But come the wee wee hours maybe baby the gypsy lied


So when you look at me you better look hard and look twice
Is that me baby or just a brilliant disguise

[Is the Boss talking to himself in the mirror?]

Tonight our bed is cold
Im lost in the darkness of our love
God have mercy on the man
Who doubts what hes sure of


10-25-2007, 11:12 AM

10-25-2007, 11:22 AM
EIGHT MORE DAYS! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdFOYtslbC4)

10-25-2007, 11:39 AM
Now this is intriging. Notice that Brilliant Disguise seems to be set in the time frame of midnight on new year's eve.

ALSO, the 'don't put baby in a corner' scene in Dirty Dancing is set at midnight on new year's eve!

Nobody Puts Baby in a Corner! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vciEDI3dD8I)

I think that it is highly probable that Springsteen may have been watching Dirty Dancing while composing Brilliant Disguise.

This stands to reason also inasmuch as both Brilliant Disguise AND Dirty Dancing came out in 1987.

The Time of My Life (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SLWzZoDmhg)

Now, interestingly enough, this was also the first year that I was awarded the game ball for my pitching performance.

1987 was also the first year AFTER Halley's Comet passed close by the earth.

P.S. Notice in the Dirty Dancing final scene around 2:15 - 4:00.

Notice how Swayzy 'leaps' off stage.

Notice how he turns his head around and spaszes out on the floor.

Then notice how the 'whole' group of 'dancer's' starts 'dancing' in step with him.

Notice how Chauvanistic he seems to be...

10-26-2007, 09:09 AM
Actually, Einstein received an F in 7th grade math.

At times, he got so board with his schoolwork he stopped doing it and consequently failed math. Einstein's mathematics professor, Hermann Minkowski, got so angered with Albert's lack of interest in the class; he called Einstein a "lazy dog." From the time he was very young till his death, he would only study what he wanted to. When Einstein was in college, he often got upset because the Physics Professors only covered the "Old Physics" and Einstein wanted to learn about the "New Physics."

Einstein's life after college was nothing to brag about either. He passed his math and physics examinations with flying colors but could not find a job.

I relate to Einstein in this regard. It is not simply that many students think school is boring because it involves work. Rather, it is that school ACTUALLY IS BORING!

Public education is horrible because public education always sets the bar at the lowest common denominator. This is so that stupid kids will be able to pass the tests and feel that they are 'equal' to everyone else. But they aren't.

This phenomenon is especially true in higher education. University is a total farse, a most cruel hoax. I once sucessfully convinced a university math professor (PH.D.) that Venn Diagrams were a logical impossibility. Seriously, she bought it hook, line, and sinker! I wish I were simply making this up, but it is true. And I wasn't even a math major, I was in the LIBERAL ARTS!

I hated school with a passion because it was unfair. I could have been in college when I was 15 years old and pass every subject with As. But no! Alas, I was from a 'broken' 'poor' family, 'broken' and 'poor' from an ongoing 'Silent War' by so-called 'elites'.

I've said this before and I'll say it again, ALL UNIVERSITY'S ARE MADE UP OF PROFESSORS WHO ARE THE MOST GULLIBLE, POLITICALLY CORRECT, HERD-MINDED PEOPLE ON THE FACE OF THE PLANET! That is how they got where they are today. I can honestly say that did not 'learn' one solitary thing from any professor I have ever had. Everything I know I learned from dusty old books, and hours spent alone in library stacks.

I once told my department chairman how I felt about his ignorant, dumbed-down curriculum. I was summarily dismissed from the University. And that was the best day of my entire life. I had graduated from without an M.B.A. (Masters of Bullshit Arts)

10-28-2007, 03:43 PM
BlueAngel wrote:
Henry Makow's latest article:


The Root Problem: Illuminati or Jews?
By Henry Makow Ph.D.
October 28, 2007

By Henry Makow Ph.D.

(This revisits an important article I posted in August 2006.)

"Henry, The only solution to all these problems is to kill all the Jews."

I got this email last week from George in response to my article about bionic women.

"Kill all the Jews and overnight these things will change. I know you'll never make that suggestion, but it's the only solution. The Protocols have come to fruition. Just tell the people to kill the Jews and our problems will be solved. You Henry could become a Marrano and lie like a bastard."

As economc and political conditions worsen, resentment against jews will grow.

"There is coming a time soon in which we shall have to fight Jews because they are Jews and because we are not," J.B. Campbell proclaimed in "Jewish Rule" posted on Rense.com. " They will leave us with no other choice, just as they left the Russians and the Palestinians and the Hungarians and now the Lebanese with no other choice but fight or die a nasty death after captivity and thirst and starvation and torture."

John Kaminski writes, " The Illuminati is wholly Jewish, started by a Jew turned Catholic, operated by the Jews who control the money. Now used, as a convenient myth by
Jewish writers to say the problem is not really Jewish."

Kaminski is referring to me. He has called me a "Zionist mole." The satanic Jewish cult, the Sabbateans, might be at the the heart of the problem but it has gone way beyond them to embrace the occult world in general.

The epithet "Illuminati mole" could be hurled back. People like Kaminski unwittingly serve the Illuminati agenda by making ordinary Jews the scapegoat. They divert attention from the real source of the problem which is Satanic.

As we shall see, the Illuminati is not "wholly Jewish" by a long shot. You could kill every Jew and the problem would remain. (Of course this does not absolve of guilt Illuminati of Jewish origin and their many Jewish dupes/agents i.e. Zionists, Communists, Feminists, Liberals, Socialists, Neo Cohns etc. Nor does it absolve those Jews who refuse to disassociate from organized Jewry.)

I refer Kaminski and his ilk to Fritz Springmeier, an unsung hero of humanity, now an American political prisoner, who has debriefed dozens of Illuminati defectors. The pioneer authority on the Illuminati, he says the problem is a lot bigger than "the Jews". It is anti-religious (as in satanic) not racial.

"To call the conspiracy Jewish is misleading. The father of it all is Satan. It is Satanic and it will use anyone it can." ("Bloodlines of the Illuminati", p.126)


It's the nightmare that's still there after we wake up. It reads like a horror movie script:

The most trusted and richest leaders of society have secretly organized into a satanic cult and are conspiring to turn humanity into their mind-controlled slaves. The process is designed to appear natural: "making the world a better place." All wars, including the Cold War and War on Terror are hoaxes designed to consolidate their power.

Humanity has a terminal disease and is in a collective state of denial. Every facet of Western society, not just organized Jewry, has been subverted. This includes business, education, military, mass media, government and all religions. The elite, Jews and non-Jews alike, are either dupes or agents. That is a condition for advancement.

The Illuminati control current events and determine human history according to their "Plan.". What we call "secular humanism" is nothing but a facade for Luciferianism. "Modernism" is the substitution of their occult interests disguised as "reason" for Moral Order and Objective Truth i.e. God. Our modern world is a fraud dedicated to enthroning Satan worshipers as rulers of this planet.

The word "Illuminati" sounds incredible but unfortunately it's very real. It's plans and correspondence were seized in 1784. Defectors testified at public hearings.

The relationship of Zionists to the Illuminati mirrors that of Freemasonry, which the Illuminati also control. Most are pawns and dupes. "The Lodge shall be our nursery garden," Illuminati founder Adam Weishaupt wrote."All those who are not suited to the work shall remain in the Masonic Lodge and advance in that without knowing anything of the further system." (Webster, "Secret Societies," p.210)


Humanity owes a debt of gratitude to Fritz Springmeier for exposing the Illuminati and its methods in a half dozen major works.

His definitive work is "Be Wise as Serpents" (1991) and "Bloodlines of the Illuminati" (1999). At the back he lists hundreds of names of members of the Illuminati organizations like the Pilgrim Society, Bohemia Grove and the Skull and Bones and related fraternities. The names reflect the American establishment yesterday and today. They are not exclusively Jewish.

I'll just list a few: Astor;Ball, Bennett; Bundy; Grace; Hammer; Kennedy; Brady; Acheson; Rockefeller; Dulles; Bedell Smith; Carnegie; Cowles; Dupont; Harriman; Schiff; Roosa; Brezinski; Kissinger; Forbes; Donovan; Javits; Mellon; Turner; Coffin; Heinz; MacLeish; Stanley; Pinchot; Whitney; Walker; Steadman; Taft...etc.

A similar membership analysis could be made of other Illuminati fronts such as the Bilderbergs, the Council on Foreign Relations , the Trilateral Commission and the Club of Rome.

Yes it is probable that Jewish Sabbatean heretics like the Rothschilds are the mainspring behind the Illuminati but there is no shortage of non-Jews who want a piece of the Satanic action.

Did you know Doonesbury's Gary Trudeau is Skull and Bones? Ned Lamont who tried to upset Joe Lieberman is the great grandson of Thomas Lamont, the Chairman of J.P Morgan, who financed the American Communists. These guys pretend to oppose each other. We get to choose which satanist we want.

It's frustrating that people like Kaminski can only see the Jews and not the gentiles. Then they blame all Jews regardless of their guilt and let all the guilty goyim off the hook. They seem to need a simple black-and-white solution to the world's problems. They can't face the betrayal of their own ethnic national and religious leaders. Easier to despise ordinary Jews than confront the powerful rich. I invite Kaminski et al to read Fritz Springmeier and focus on the guilty, whether Jew or not.


For exposing the Illuminati, Fritz Springmeier was framed for a 1997 bank robbery and sentenced to nine years in jail in 2003. They tried to make Springmeier out to be a Ted Kaczynski Unabomber. Read excerpts from this interview with Springmeier to see how intelligent he is and how evil they are. (The complete interview is available here.)

Who are the Illuminati?

"The Illuminati are the movers and shakers of the world. They are an elite group of bloodlines - I call these tribes or families - there are 13 major bloodlines. They are what are called "generational satanists". That means that they have practiced their secret witchcraft for many centuries and they have passed their religion down from one generation to the next. They lead double lives. They have one life that the world sees and then they have a hidden life that the world doesn't see. There have been very few people that have been able to break through the secrecy."

"The top 13 bloodlines are the Astor, Bundy, Collins, Dupont, Freeman, Kennedy, Li, Onassis, Rockefellers, Rothschild, Reynolds, Krupp, Russell ... then there is a 13th bloodline which is the Merovingian bloodline. I just simple call it the 13th and then there is the Van Duyn Illuminati bloodline. The 13th bloodline, the Merovingian, is extremely important. It includes the royal families of Europe."

What is their goal?

"Ultimately [their goal is] to bring in what people have termed the New World Order with a man who will hold the world's attention and carry the title 'The Antichrist.' That's the ultimate goal and I am not trying to wax religious on people but that's just the simple fact. When you get into deprogramming people you will see that a lot of the things they
have been programmed to do tie in with a very sophisticated plan to unify the world under the reign of the Antichrist."

"[Princeton historian] James Billington (Fire in the Minds of Men) traces how all the revolutions were started by this occult elite. The term revolution came from the occult idea that we were going to revolve ourselves back to the Golden Age. There is this great quest for the Golden Age, this millenialism. That's what communism is about. If you look at the early founders of communism - they were trying to revolve us back through revolution to the Golden Age that had been lost. ...it's always for a socialistic, communistic type utopia, [a cross between] "1984" and "Animal Farm."

Why do they use trauma-based mind control on their own family members?

"It's really essential. If you are going to participate in the Illuminati secret life, being a programmed multiple [personality] is basic. There are a few in the Illuminati who aren't programmed multiples, but considering what one has to participate in. You've got a
number of standard rituals involved - St. Weinbald, St. Agnes, Grand Climax, Walpurgis, Beltane, all your solstices and equinoxes, Lamas, All Hallow's Eve, High Grand Climax -- all of these standard rituals. These rituals are very horrific. They involved human sacrifice. Sacrifices of babies on the High Grand Climax. On various Sabbats you've got a young
female or a male being sacrificed.

This is not something that the normal mind is going to be able to handle. The mind control and the creation of multiple personalities where you get a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde effect - is very crucial to this thing continuing from generation to generation. They will be trained in alchemy, in Indian sorcery, Druidism, Enochian magik, Gnosticism, Hermetic magik, cabbalism, Plato, Sufism - they will know all the different branches of occult systems."

What is the function of trauma?

"The Illuminati take a small child about two years old, and they begin traumatizing it with the worst traumas that are imaginable so that they can create these amnesia walls. They find these dissociated pieces of the mind that are just like ...floppy disks, often they put in their programming to the dissociated parts of the mind as to what they want that part to become... [Elsewhere he says mind control was behind Josef Mengele's experiments; that Mengele was Illuminati and continued his work in the US after the war.]

The Illuminati can take a particular child and manipulate things from behind the scenes and open all the right doors for this person, and they can get them the grants and the schooling and everything they need and adding impetus to this person's career is the mind control that is steering them in that direction too. The end product is you end up with somebody who is an engineer or a lawyer or a politician who is very highly qualified for what they are doing.

A very conservative estimate - I shouldn't even say estimate because I have computed it from about seven different angles - a conservative figure is 2 million Americans have been programmed with trauma based total mind control."

The Ultimate Goal?

"The whole long-range goal of this, and when I say long-range, it's not going to take them long to get us there at the rate they are going - the end goal of all of this is to eventually create an entire planet of mind controlled slaves that can be controlled by one super computer. They are manipulating our thoughts and our attitudes, and steering us,
herding us (they consider us animals - the Illuminati consider themselves god, god men and us to be the animals) they are herding us in the direction they want to us to go."


Let's not fall into the Illuminati's divide-and-conquer trap. Springmeier says this is "a war against evil not race." He says that, as a virtuoso with an old violin, a "Master's hand can turn anyone into a beautiful thing." He says that many members of Illuminati families have
found Christ and broken free. Similarly many Illuminati dupes, whether Jewish or not, can be reached by a message of Truth and Love. We can all be deprogrammed.


See also "Illuminati Defector Details Pervasive Conspiracy "

Also, my "Why Do the Illuminati Hate Jews?"

Interesting, the Anti-Christ he says.

Spiritual Freedom

Since we are temporarily occupying the human bodies we have, I'm wondering if the physical nature of the world we inhabit will be destroyed, The Bible says that GOD made the Earth to stand forever, and (depending on your reading of scripture) that there will be peace on Earth for a thousand years, after Satan is binded and chained in Purgatory. During these 1000 years Satan will no longer have any authority over human matters, Humanity will re-create the original PLAN of GOD, which is to make the Earth a Paradise under Christ Kingdom.

Of course before all this can happen, there must first arrive the Anti-Christ to fulfill Biblical Prophecy, these end-times we are currently living in is extremely EVIL, such as the world has never seen before. After or during Armageddon, the Bible says Jesus will come with full authority to Cleanse the Evil off the Earth, and then it will be his faithful followers who are put to the task to rebuild the Paradise lost. also during this 1000 years of Peace, the Dead will awaken from there "places" and be reunited with there loved ones, As death and suffering will be a thing of the past, Christ Kingdom Come!

10-28-2007, 04:03 PM
BlueAngel wrote:
What's the deal with the mind control containment phrase:

"No where to run and no where to hide?"


The picture of the cat and the bundle of money?

Just a few of MANY!

I don't need to elaborate.

I'm know your eyes see the same as I do.

I don't need to name names, but I'm sure you are aware of the others, as well.

Blue Angel, calm down, don't let your mind make things up. I know what I'm doing when I post stuff, sometimes My "Artistry" can be confusing, you do realize that? you have heard of Sarcasm, Artistry, and general BOREDOM weaved into one?

Relax, all of you before you end up in a real nut-house, I am accepting donations you know. I'm short for funds.

Note: What, are you afraid of cat pictures?

10-28-2007, 06:12 PM
Blue Angel.....

"Mind-Control" within the music Industry. :-? who is "Mind-Controlled?" Interesting..

Interesting indeed.

10-28-2007, 06:52 PM
Blue Oceans....

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Blue Bayou


10-28-2007, 07:53 PM
Springsteen certainly promotes homosexuality, sexually deviant behavior, fires, cutting people in half, etc., etc., etc., throughout his lyrics.

It's difficult to imagine the number of people who wander this planet in a FOG due to their constant exposure to music/songs/lyrics, which can produce a hypnotic effect. Certain messages, repeated over and over again become buried in the subconscious and can be called up with triggers that can be contained anywhere, as long as the target can see them, hear them.

Music is piped in everywhere we go.

It is similar to the techniques used when "mind control" programming a victim in MKULTRA/Project Monarch.

Keep in mind that we begin listening to music at a VERY, VERY YOUNG AGE.

Particularly, children's shows, DISNEY related animations, etc.

So, basically our perception of reality is altered from the moment we are born.

Before the age of five is crucial.

It's difficult to imagine the number of people who walk this planet in VERY suggestible states of mind due to their constant exposure to music and repetition of lyrics.

HYPNOSIS = High state of suggestibility.

Very easily coerced.

Changes one's perception of reality.

Subconscious is tapped and the CORE is not totally in control.

It's difficult to imagine the number of people who were subjected to mind control trauma-based programs; who are walking this planet and may be programmed to act upon specific "triggers" contained within lyrics to songs, musical tones, print, media, television programs, etc.

In other words, it it not beyond the realm of possibility that when in a high state of suggestibility, altered state of consciousness, in a FOG, so to speak, that a mind control victim and even those who are not mind controlled, but just having been subjected to that which I've explained, act upon triggers without contemplation.

This, of course, is true, as well, when speaking about programming directed at children with respect to violence and sexual promiscuity via video games, the big screen, music videos/lyrics, and the perpetual decline of a moral society which is something they are exposed to on a daily basis.

Social engineering.

Changing the biological and physiological chemistry of a human through mind control programming.

10-31-2007, 11:34 PM
Prince Rogers Nelson was born in Minneapolis, Minnesota at Mount Sinai Hospital on Saturday June 7, 1958 to John L. Nelson and Mattie Shaw. John was a pianist and songwriter. Mattie was a singer. He is named after the Prince Rogers Trio, his father's jazz band. As a boy, he was called Skipper. There are a number of myths regarding Prince's ethnicity, some spread by Prince himself. In fact, according to an April 28, 1983 Rolling Stone article, Prince's father is African-American and his mother is herself multiracial, with Egyptian, African-American and Italian-American ancestry. After the birth of his sister Tyka, in 1960, Prince's parents gradually drifted apart. After they formally separated, he had a troubled relationship with his stepfather, causing him to run away from home. He lived briefly with his father, who bought him his first guitar. Later, Prince moved in with a neighborhood family, the Andersons, and became friends with their son, Andre Anderson (later called André Cymone).

11-01-2007, 09:51 AM
I’m suffering from an acute case of Brucelash. Springsteen and the "Yeesh They’re Looking Pretty Old Band" (sorry, I mean “the E Street Band”) are seemingly everywhere lately, in support of their recently released and much ballyhooed album, Magic. In the last couple weeks, Bruce and the band have appeared on the Matt Lauer Snarky Time Happy Hour (also known as the Today Show), and Springsteen also appeared on 60 Minutes in a carefully crafted interview that reinforced the familiar Springsteen public persona (portrayal of said musician as an approachable and humorous man-of-the-people despite millionaire status? Check. Musings on what it means to be an American? Check. References to working class background and childhood in New Jersey? Check).

The critical response to the album has been extremely positive. On this very website, several contributors have sung their praises for the album on a few occasions, though I suspect that they might be/could be/maybe could be/just a little bit possibly are somewhat predisposed to like the album regardless of its actual content. Even the usually difficult to please Pitchfork gave the album a positive review, and that website usually saves its most enthusiastic praise for the following: anything Radiohead does, any band that features a Japanese woman sputtering out sentence fragments over music that sounds like a 1980s sitcom theme song, or any band whose name is either a declarative command or could be mistaken for a line of poetry from a female college student. As I checked out the album at a local retail store, a store employee approached me, and in breathless, hushed tones, told me the album was one of the greatest things he’d ever heard. His praise was so excessive I felt like I was holding a sacred relic upon which I should not even look, lest its sacred glow permanently blind my eyes.

Yet I still cannot bring myself to seal the deal and buy the album. I think I know why.

First, all this effusive praise is vaguely familiar: similar plaudits were lauded upon Bruce and the boys when The Rising was released a few years ago. Based on these reviews, I purchased the album and was supremely underwhelmed. Listening to it again recently, what surprised me most is how many of the songs sound dated; they suffer from a production approach that somehow seems both sterile and over-saturated at the same time. Looking back on the album now, I’m convinced the positive response for the album can be attributed to both an initial enthusiastic response to Springsteen and the band releasing an album together after many years away from each other, and, on a more serious note, because the album was seen as one of the earliest artistic works that addressed (however implicitly) the events and after-effects of 9/11.

The second issue that’s preventing me from buying the album and joining the angel band in song is the Santana factor. Let me explain. In 1999, Santana released Supernatural, which was touted as his best album since the Paleolithic era. The album caught on like wildfire. It sold 9,999,999,999,999 copies. It was required listening in grade schools across the country. It won countless awards and was anointed as the most important work of artistry since The Great Gatsby. It landed the musician a soft drink endorsement. It revealed that “the dude from matchbox 20” had an actual name. Everyone was enthralled with Santana, the super-cool aura he exuded, and especially, his truly remarkable porn-stache.

Of course, the mania around Magic has reached nowhere near the level of hysteria for Supernatural. The marketing push given to Springsteen’s album doesn’t come close to the push that Supernatural received (you couldn’t breathe air or fear Y2K in 1999 without seeing Santana on the television or hearing him on the radio). Still, I can’t help but think that some of the touchy-feely humping being thrust upon this album is at least partially a result of a careful marketing plan (select interviews, positive press, and a full-scale arenas-only world tour), and partially the result of many fans’ desire to see Springsteen and the E Street Band back together again, reliving their (here it comes!) glory days.

The final factor that’s currently preventing me from throwing down some baksheesh for this album is the simple fact that I can count the number of Brendan O’Brien-produced albums that I like on approximately, oh, three fingers.

Finger 1: Devils. Finger 2: and. Finger 3: Dust. I will readily admit there are many albums produced by O’Brien that I’ve never heard; I’m sure I’ll get around to checking out Dynamite Monster Boogie Concert by Raging Slab and Waste of Skin by Spike 1000 one of these days. However, of the albums I’ve heard, I’ve always found them overproduced and overpolished. O’Brien’s albums remind me of someone who smiles all the time; sure, it’s reassuring and non-threatening, but after a while, it’s just obnoxious and annoying. Then again, maybe I’m turning into a cranky music snob and cannot see the merits of Drops of Jupiter by Train or Significant Other by Limp Bizkit.

I want to buy Magic, give it a full listen, and say that it’s among Springsteen and the band’s best, on par with Born To Run and Darkness On The Edge Of Town. At their best, Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band are a force capable of making grown men weep, making the sky rain, and making the bad girls go good. I’m sure at some point in the coming weeks my Brucelash will end and I’ll buy the album. But right now I’m having a difficult time convincing myself this thing is something more than, at best, an overrated album, or, at worst, a polished turd whose stink is being masked by critics’ and fans’ enthusiasm to see Springsteen and the band rocking again like it’s 1978.

Written by Eric Whelchel
Published October 11, 2007

11-02-2007, 04:30 AM
Prince and Anderson joined Prince's cousin Charles Smith in a band called Grand Central, formed in junior high school. Initially his involvement was just part of a mainly instrumental band, that played clubs and parties in the Minneapolis area. As time went by and Prince's musical knowledge broadened he found himself dictating the arrangements to the rest of the band. Before long he had become the band's front man. By the time Prince had entered high school, Grand Central evolved into Champagne and started playing original music already drawing on a range of influences including Sly Stone, James Brown, Jimmy Page, and Jimi Hendrix. At some point Prince was a student at the Minnesota Dance Theatre

11-02-2007, 03:16 PM
BlueAngel wrote:
I had sex appeal, a stage presence, lyrical ability and knew the moves that were taught to me. I was being trained.

They could have worked with my voice and musical abilities.

I decided I'd rather live with GOD than the sell my soul to the Devil.

Wait, this not correct. You DID sell your soul to Lucifer!

11-03-2007, 04:27 PM


11-04-2007, 08:40 AM
People have different notions of these values, and they live them out in different ways. I've tried to sing about some of them in my songs. But I have my own ideas about what they mean, too. That is why I plan to join with many fellow artists, including the Dave Matthews Band, Pearl Jam, R.E.M., the Dixie Chicks, Jurassic 5, James Taylor and Jackson Browne, in touring the country this October. We will be performing under the umbrella of a new group called Vote for Change. Our goal is to change the direction of the government and change the current administration come November :lol:

11-06-2007, 09:00 AM
When I listen closely.
Outside the window.
I hear a shovel.
Gently scraping on the concrete.
Gently tapping after the scraping.
A strange sound
In the darkness of the day
What ever fore is that shovel scraping
Will it scrape for as long as this God foresaken thread.

Will I ever see this message again as BlueAngle will probably shit 50 pages of crap onto this thread before I come back.

More to the point, will I care as the shovel gently scrapes?

11-15-2007, 12:33 PM
This took a while to find out as very little is on the internet but plenty in print at my local library.

I got interested in this after one of your previous messages here that I actually read and decided to google an aspect of it. As I suspected, there was very little information and was not about Bruce, but it was interesting so I pursued it a bit.

There is a line in a song that was taken out after a female groupie went on to a fan forum and made some acussations that the line alluded to.

The musician in question as well as the rest of the band decided to go on with it as the groupie was a flake with problems both mental as well as drugs. But the manager as well as the record company played a much more cautious approach and told him to take the line out as they did not want such controversy to tarnish the musicians image as well as the groups drummer.

11-20-2007, 09:30 AM
When exactly were you a groupie? Was Soozie Tyrell touring at the time?

11-20-2007, 11:02 AM
You've must have known Soozie

11-22-2007, 08:52 AM
I am more interested in what you were told to do with Soozie? There was aninterview with Rolling Stone I found in the library that is making more sense now!

11-22-2007, 10:01 AM
It was in the library archives not the internet.

You can find it yourself if you have acess to back issues of Rolling Stone.

From the tone of the writing it seems you diD.

How was she?

11-23-2007, 03:50 AM
Why are you getting so bitchy?

I am merely asking you about Soozie on whether you knew her and exactly how well you knew her.

As for the article, I was merely explaining why I asked the question because of some of the stuff she said about a female groupie that hung around. If you want to know more, its up to you. All I want to know is if you were involved with her?

11-24-2007, 09:22 AM
If indeed you were Springsteen's "sex slave" as you claim than indeed you were a groupie. As they simply are druged out low or no self esteem individuals. So you either were a groupie or you making all this up.

As I said I did some checking up on Springsteen and came up with an unusual story involving Soozie and one of the female groupies that she said essentialy lived with the band.

I am giving you the benefit of the doubt and am asking you if you knew her.

From your responses you seem evasive which means you don't and so have been lying about the whole thing.

11-24-2007, 02:13 PM



11-26-2007, 01:12 PM

11-29-2007, 09:26 AM
So what about Soozie?

12-01-2007, 08:30 AM
How about your experiences with Soozie?

12-02-2007, 09:27 PM
Here she comes, walking down the street
You know shes walking just like shes walking to come and see
Oh shes so young
And shes so fine
I know whats on your mind, know what you want to do
But if you mess with her, Im gonna mess with you
You better watch your step, you better stay in line

This little girl is mine, oh oh
This little girl is mine, oh oh
This little girl is mine, this little girl, this little girl is mine
Oh oh this little girl is mine
This little girl is mine, oh oh
This little girl is mine, this little girl, this little girl is mine

Well if the world were mine to do with what I want to do, sir
Well Id wrap it up in a bow and giver it all to her
Yeah and all of my love, all of the time
You know Id hold her tight, Id never let her go
And late at night you know Id love her so
Yeah Id treat her right, so shed never mind

This little girl is mine, oh oh
This little girl is mine, oh oh
This little girl is mine, this little girl, this little girl is mine

Hey ! you better watch out
Im telling you the score
Or youre gonna be sweeping your broken heart up off the floor
Oh and that aint all
Im telling you my friend

I know whats on your mind, know what you wanna do
But if you mess with her, Im gonna mess with you
You like the way she moves, you like to watch her walk
You better listen up, cause man this aint just talk
You better watch your step, you better stay in line

This little girl is mine, oh oh
This little girl is mine, oh oh
This little girl is mine, this little girl, this little girl is mine
Oh oh this little girl is mine
This little girl is mine, oh oh
This little girl is mine, this little girl, this little girl is mine

This little girl is mine, oh oh
This little girl is mine, oh oh
This little girl is mine, this little girl, this little girl is mine
Oh oh this little girl is mine
This little girl is mine, oh oh
This little girl is mine, this little girl, this little girl is mine

12-02-2007, 09:29 PM
This song makes it very clear that he is a pedophile.

12-03-2007, 07:31 PM
Artist: Bruce Springsteen

Song: This little girl

Thats the song I posted the lyrics of. Seems he only sings about his desire for little girls. How can other people not see this? I never read anything about Bruce Springsteen till I saw your post her. Its pretty obvious that this guy has some serious problems.

12-03-2007, 08:06 PM
Keep on posting your stories. The few people who can still think for themselve will see their value. Most people are under mindcontrol nowadays and can not think anymore. I also avoided the topic of mindcontrol for a long time, because I was not ready for it. It takes some time to accept that this is at the core of the problems in our society. The illuminati control society by creating mind controlled slaves. What do you think they are doing in Iraq and Cuba? Yes, they are preparing an army of mind controlled slaves to take over Iraq and other middle eastern countries. Without these slaves they can not control these countries. Many torture tactics they use like waterboarding are also described by mind control victims in the US.

12-03-2007, 08:13 PM
My eyes were opened already blue angel. You only opened them further. I read the stories of Christopher Collins or John Todd on Henris Makows website. After that I read more about mindcontrol and the music industry. As a rock music fan, this was kind of a shock to me, but I think John Todd was right.

12-03-2007, 08:59 PM
Yes I part of your posts here. What you experienced is beyond imagination. Very similar what other former slaves and illuminati defectors describe. Did you read the article about John Todd on Makows website? John Todd talked also a lot about mind control and the music industry.

12-04-2007, 08:33 AM
BlueAngel wrote:
I'm not a psychiatrist... [quote]

No, but you really need to see one.

12-04-2007, 12:19 PM
Just waiting for your next meltdown

12-04-2007, 12:21 PM
How can you claim to say that you are me and are equipped when you are marking my husband with death threats?!!

12-04-2007, 12:25 PM
BlueAngel wrote:
Please do tell SHADOW.

Are you chained to the computer?

Do they pay you?

Are you a Springsteen groupie who just can't bare to believe he is a pedophile, sadistic pig and a part of the "satanic cult?"

Obviously, you have no purpose on this site other than to monitor my postings about Springsteen and any other topic I might comment on and respond to them in an unintelligent manner.

Is this an attempt to PROTECT him?

If so, I do hope they're not paying you because you have demonstrated beyond a reasonable doubt, as many others have, as well, that you are ill-equipped to deal with me.

No, you are chained to the computer!

They are paying you to mock my husband and I and they are paying you in Federal Reserve notes!

You are mocking me and my family in some vain attempt to make myself look stupid!

You are not me! And I love Bruce Springsteen for your information!

When you take pot shots at me, you're only hurting yourselves in the end!

12-04-2007, 12:27 PM
I do not care if you are shadow and Blueangel, or any other of your pathetic alter egos!

I will protect my name! And you will stop making a markery of me and my husband!

12-04-2007, 07:33 PM
I ment to say I read many of your posts.

Back to John Todd. John Todd (or Lance Collins) is a member of the Collins Illuminati family. He was member of the Grand Druid council. He is one of the highest illuminati members who ever defected. After he defected he became a christian sometime, sometimes he fell back into witchcraft. Like all members of the illuminati he underwent trauma based mind control, so he had many different personalities, some of which were pure evil. After he defected from the illuminati some of these personalities made him sexually abuse girls. Great way to discredit somebody. Some people give this as a reason to throw everything he says out of the window. This is wrong in my opinion. Because of the sexual abuse he was thrown in jail. When he was released he got killed immediatly according to Fritz Springmeier, who is also in jail by the way.

Anyway in this video of one of his speeches to a church congregation he talks about witchcraft and the music industry. He knows the inside story on this subject because he was the one on the council of 13 in charge of the music industry. John says that no singer can produce a song nowadays without being a witch. He also says that every master record is cursed in satanic ceremony. The witches order demons to follow every record which is made from the master tape. When you buy a tape you bring these demons into your house. Anway, I do not know what is true about this. The only thing that I am sure about is that rock music is full of satanic symbols.

Listen to his speech by yourself. It is very revealing.


12-05-2007, 09:56 AM
BlueAngel wrote:

CathyObrien wrote:
How can you claim to say that you are me and are equipped when you are marking my husband with death threats?!!

TO THE ADMINISTRATION: I request that George_Bush be banned; together with Mark Phillips and CathyO'Brien.

I think its about time to ban this idiot once more. She is defintel becoming more unstable!

12-05-2007, 12:42 PM
TO THE ADMINISTRATION TOO! I request that BlueAngel be bannished; together with other shades of pastel or generally 'azure' colored entitities that she may have with her!



I will make this clear, I, Cathy O'brien, have decided that I want to be a fundamentalist Christian and serve Jesus my Lord. Because I've realized that when I served Horus like a cheap two dollar whore of Babalon I was serving a stupid, bird-brained, cowardly, impotant, maggot-eaton carcass of a false god. And I was so stupid. I just hope I'm not eaten alive by Choronzon. And I hope I'm not destroyed by Aiwass, because I looked that up in a Chaldian lexicon and Aiwass is a Babylonian word for Destroyer. Wow, do I ever feel dumb for being in the Illuminati. I was born from a long line of idiots, I want to break the chain of Stupid.

I don't want to be a lizard woman anymore! I want to become a mammal again!

12-05-2007, 01:27 PM
BlueAngel wrote:
Some people have a knack for making fools of themselves.

I wonder what it is they seek?


I percieve that you are experiencing feelings of guilt, regret, shame, and loss.

Admitting the proplem is the first step toward healing. Yes, you've been an attention whore, but that doesn't mean that you cannot change.

You need a new self concept, BlueAngel. I'm willing to forgive all the blatent and vain threats against me that you've given. But you have to start getting back in touch with yourself. Get to know yourself. Look at yourself in the mirror and say, Am I really BlueAngel? Then yourself will look back and say, Do I LOOK Blue to you!! Then you will say, Stop making fun of me, I'm in healing and I'm getting a new self concept! Then your real self will look back at you in the mirror and say, Cathy....Cathy....you're talking to yourself again...

12-05-2007, 02:01 PM
Come on now, BlueAngel. Stop beating yourself up like this. Stop pulling yourself in two. Don't go reverting into your shell now..


12-05-2007, 03:01 PM
BlueAngel wrote:
Using me as an example of someone who reverts into a shell is inappropriate.

It's quite clear that I'm out in the open.

I personally feel that it may be time for you to come out of the closet. You seem to be jealous of me. You've been hiding behind my name for a long time now. Isn't is time to tell the world who you really am?

12-05-2007, 03:11 PM
BlueAngel, who am you? You feel like I don't even know me anymore. Stop mocking I!

You look at I in the mirror and feel I've lost touch with yourself...


BlueAngel, what have you made me done with her?

12-05-2007, 03:18 PM
Wendy, you're making you die me!

Little girl, come to Cathy for myself!

12-05-2007, 03:22 PM
Don't follow I Wendy, you're hurting meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee....


12-05-2007, 03:25 PM
Don't follow you Cathy, BlueAngel! You're hurting ourself!


12-05-2007, 03:28 PM
Follow her Cathy! I'm hurting yourself!


12-05-2007, 03:34 PM
Wendy eat BlueAngel, she's eating yourself!


12-05-2007, 03:39 PM
Cathy eat BlueAngel so she can feel yourself!


12-05-2007, 03:44 PM
Stop it Cathy! You're making you lose my head!


12-05-2007, 03:46 PM
Stop it BlueAngel! You're making you lose my head!


12-05-2007, 03:48 PM
Stop it Wendy their hurting you! I'm making me lose their head!


12-05-2007, 04:22 PM
BlueAngel wrote:
Is George_Bush a lunatic or does he seek to suggest?

I'm betting both!

What do I have to do with this discussion of the lunatic thugs?!!

But yeah, I gotta point. This is my point...the axis of evil!


12-08-2007, 12:48 PM
what is this?

you answer yourself half as many posts you have here?

that must be, let me do the math, about two for every post you post to yourself, one to post and one to see the shit

what are you doing?

are you obsessed with this springsteen dude want to be a real musician

12-08-2007, 12:49 PM
are you Ok?

12-08-2007, 01:13 PM
what do you mean you own it? are you paying for this? or is it more like just your desire to own it?

12-08-2007, 01:14 PM
but you never answered me...

12-08-2007, 01:15 PM
but please, be honest. i don't want to be taken for a fool, please...

12-08-2007, 01:19 PM
I did not say anything about you being a musician, I said that about springsteen want to be a "real" musician... since I don't think he will ever be a "real" musician

blueangel said:
"I'm obsessed with Springsteen "paying the price," pal!"

what does "paying the price" mean?

and please I told you not to PAL me again. I'd appreciate if you don't PAL me, since I am not your PAL...

12-08-2007, 01:27 PM
look I just wanna understand what you mean by

“I'm obsessed with Springsteen "paying the price," pal!”

I can see that this thread is “obsessive” to say the least, but you being obsessed with springsteen “paying the price” is what I don’t quite get...

12-08-2007, 06:39 PM
me9G7X5t1r2M wrote:
what is this?

you answer yourself half as many posts you have here?

that must be, let me do the math, about two for every post you post to yourself, one to post and one to see the shit

what are you doing?

are you obsessed with this springsteen dude want to be a real musician

me9, BA is OBSESSED with Bruce SpingSTEIN becuase she used to be a part of the rock band in some form or another, probably a groupie, she had a 'crush' on him, dreamt of marrying him, he negelcted her, she now has this OBSESSIVE DISORDER toward this musician unlike anyone has ever seen, it is really pathetic to say the least that anyone could write over 3000 post's toward anybody.

If this does'nt show that BA is nuts I don't know what will, do you?

Bruce Springsteen is pretty good at his music, as usual BA likes to attack everyone and everything she gets her mind on.

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12-08-2007, 06:55 PM
Ba is also jealous of Patti

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Born in the USA!


Dancin in the Dark


Born to run...

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12-08-2007, 07:03 PM
me9G7X5t1r2M wrote:
what is this?

you answer yourself half as many posts you have here?

that must be, let me do the math, about two for every post you post to yourself, one to post and one to see the shit

what are you doing?

are you obsessed with this springsteen dude want to be a real musician

me9, BA is OBSESSED with Bruce SpingSTEIN becuase she used to be a part of the rock band in some form or another, probably a groupie, she had a 'crush' on him, dreamt of marrying him, he negelcted her, she now has this OBSESSIVE DISORDER toward this musician unlike anyone has ever seen, it is really pathetic to say the least that anyone could write over 3000 post's toward anybody.

If this does'nt show that BA is nuts I don't know what will, do you?

Bruce Springsteen is pretty good at his music, as usual BA likes to attack everyone and everything she gets her mind on.

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I forgot to mention again, BA is jealous of PATTI

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12-08-2007, 07:06 PM
redrat11 wrote:

me9G7X5t1r2M wrote:
what is this?

you answer yourself half as many posts you have here?

that must be, let me do the math, about two for every post you post to yourself, one to post and one to see the shit

what are you doing?

are you obsessed with this springsteen dude want to be a real musician

me9, BA is OBSESSED with Bruce SpingSTEIN becuase she used to be a part of the rock band in some form or another, probably a groupie, she had a 'crush' on him, dreamt of marrying him, he negelcted her, she now has this OBSESSIVE DISORDER toward this musician unlike anyone has ever seen, it is really pathetic to say the least that anyone could write over 3000 post's toward anybody.

If this does'nt show that BA is nuts I don't know what will, do you?

Bruce Springsteen is pretty good at his music, as usual BA likes to attack everyone and everything she gets her mind on.

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I forgot to mention again, BA is jealous of PATTI

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I'm sorry bud, I just got distracted. but yeah, you seem to be having fun here,...

12-08-2007, 07:18 PM
why the obsession? aren’t there more important things to worry about? or worrying about springsteen’s ass is that much more important?

12-08-2007, 07:22 PM
I misinterpret much? look at your thread. it's got over 6000 or so posts by you about this infatuation with this dude. get a grip.