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BlueAngel
10-07-2007, 07:30 PM
Springsteen and the E Street Band are all this and then some, by a poster at BTX:

This is one from 2003. I have no idea how it compares to last night.

I want you to put your hands together for the heartstopping, pants-dropping, house-rocking, earth-shaking, booty-quaking, history-making, Viagra-taking, lovemaking, exorcising, death-defying, sexifying, legendary E Street Band.....did I mention history-making, pantsdroppers ?....that´s right…..”

BlueAngel
10-07-2007, 07:44 PM
One poster comments that the interview with Springsteen on 60 minutes wasn't long enough.

Like I said, there isn't anything Springsteen has to say of political importance or significance that can't be communicated in about 3 or 4 minutes, perhaps even less.

And, even so, it still remains unimportant and insignificant.

I think he may have said that America is a beautiful idea that needs to be sung about.

HUH??

A beautiful IDEA!!!

I wonder what songs Springsteen has written about America.

Can't think of one!

Certainly, a lot of songs about little girls, cars, different personalities working in different factories, gas stations, hookers, homosexual relationships.

Songs about America?

Don't think so!

What?

Born in the USA because he incorporates USA?

Can't think of a song wherein Springsteen uses the word America.

Just the same as he hasn't written a song using the words Iraq, Iraq War, wiretapping, habeas corpus, torture, but publicly lies about his song, "Livin' in the Future," and says it speaks to these issues.

So cryptic, so obscure.

Why write them at all if you can't express metaphorically and with clarity what your song's intended theme is.

A metaphor should be easily identified. One shouldn't have to attempt to define it as if they are looking for a needle in a haystack.

BlueAngel
10-07-2007, 08:02 PM
A poster comments that one of Springsteen's children thinks he's an "attention whore."

THINKS???

And, Springsteen actually repeats this on national television.

It's very apparent.

How 'bout a megalomaniac?

Or, narcissist?

All of this "attention" seeking as of late for no particular reason?

Very interesting.

Quite humiliating and embarrassing, from an outsider looking in.

Or, should I say from an INSIDER looking out.

I mean, certainly when Springsteen and Scialfa are interviewed they don't portray themselves in a very positive light.

Did Springsteen talk about the NWO?

Didn't think so!

They actually had Stevie on and another band member and where rehashing the phone call from Springsteen when the band split up, oh, about two plus decades ago????

WOW!!

Every one's been sittin' on pins and needles wondering about that most important news item from two plus decades ago.

BlueAngel
10-07-2007, 08:11 PM
Apparently, Springsteen said:

"It's like the canary in the coal mine, it's so dark, you've got to sing."

Taken out of context, but even if it weren't, most of what he says is out of context.

Anyway.

Another poster wants to connect this canary comment apparently because it doesn't make any sense:

By the way, the quote about coal mines and birds is interesting due to recent tragedies in coal mines and poor government oversight

another sly dig, u think?

Oh, yeah, another obscure dig by Springsteen. He's just really sockin' it to them. They may crumble at any moment if he keeps this pressure up.

These fanatics are so under his control. He mentions a canary and the next thing you know, a poster begins a thread about bringing out the canary. He mentions singing about America and another posters begins a thread with songs about America. Of course, not one is a Springsteen song.

They just latch on to his every word.

BlueAngel
10-07-2007, 09:04 PM
Obviously Pelley has no clue as to the history of the "E Street Band" and didn't care to spend any time doing the research:

Pelley asked the guy who quit the band (Stevie) and the guy who was in the other band (Roy) how they felt about Bruce letting the band go?

I'd have to agree, the lines folks have been quoting like; a canary in a coal mine are quintessential Bruce.

Without meaning!

He did create a new word, though.

Immersement and he did say, ya know, a lot.

What other line:

I can live with the star thing, the music I can't live without.

Sounds like he's saying he can live with both of them.

WOW!

Quintessential.

I'm sure the entire world is on a "buzz" high from this interview.

BlueAngel
10-07-2007, 09:15 PM
Did Springsteen say this on 60 minutes:

Back in the day....we would never have stood for someone cutting the head off an AMERICAN and putting it on TV for the world to see...

HUH? We would not have stood for this? Please tell us what we, the people, would have done to stop it??

One poster comments:

It is unpatriotic to stand by and say nothing BECAUSE Springsteen cares about his country so much!!!!!

Oh, please. Get a grip. Springsteen doesn't care about his country. He cares about making it appear like he cares about his country. He's a satanist. Just like the rest of them.

Did Springsteen say this:

Without people who were "unpatriotic" this country would have never existed. It should always be our nature to question: what is right and what is just vs. mindlessly supporting what our leaders tell us to do.

He's saying that people who question the government are UNPATRIOTIC. What a hypocrite. There are many of us, besides Springsteen who don't support our leaders, and, as he is aware, it makes no difference.

I really doubt Springsteen said the following. I believe the poster did:

Unpatriotic: trusting an informant deemed unreliable by our allies who claimed to be a scientist in Iraq who had seen WMD's on trucks but who actually was a cabdriver. Going to war over wmd's ,links to 9/11 etc which were all fabrications. Fighting a war on the cheap with not enough soldiers or supplies and zero knowledge about the middle east.

BlueAngel
10-08-2007, 07:59 PM
The Philly shows aren't listed in the program.

What does that mean?

According to some fanatics, it means that they're "Livin' in the Future" and none of this has happened yet.

According to 2Hearts, she knew the show was too good to be true.

Oh, Lord!

BlueAngel
10-08-2007, 08:01 PM
Springsteen's "My Own Worst Enemy" sounds like REM's "At My Most Beautiful."

How original the MAGIC CD is!

BlueAngel
10-08-2007, 08:05 PM
WOW! A t-shirt selling for $90.00 at the "E Street Band" shows.

Reckon they've got to make up for lost cash in album and show sales.

$90.00.

Well, since the fanatics buy airplane tickets and see more than several shows, certainly they'll Springsteen for a $90.00 shirt.

Since they buy the Dvds; the tour books, the making of this, the making of that; everything and anything Bruce, why not a t-shirt for $90.00.

I mean, Springsteen must have touched it or something, eh?

BlueAngel
10-08-2007, 08:18 PM
As one poster at BTX commented, seems like Springsteen is always running from something or someone in many of his songs such as Born to Run, ThunderRoad, etc.

One poster comments that "Last to Die" reminds her of Springsteen's earlier (first) sociopolitical song Roulette:

HUH??

Roulette
Bruce Springsteen

We left the toys out in the yard
I took my wife and kids and left my home unguarded
We packed what we could into the car
No one here knows how it started
Suddenly everything was just so out of control
Now I want some answers, mister, I need to know
I hear all the talk but I don't know what you're sayin'
But I think I got a good idea of the game that you're playin'

Roulette, that's the name
Roulette, that's the game now
Roulette, I don't know what they're sayin'
Roulette, everybody's playin'

I grew up here on this street
Where nothin' moves, just a strange breeze
In a town full of worthless memories
There's a shadow in my backyard
I've got a house full of things that I can't touch
Well all those things won't do me much good now
I was a fireman out at Riker's, I did my job
Mister, I've been cheated, I feel like I've been robbed
I'm the big expendable, my life's just canceled null and void
Well what you gonna do about your new boy

Roulette, you're playin' with my life
Roulette, with my kids and my wife
Roulette, every day the stakes get bigger
Roulette, a different finger on the trigger

Down by the river that talks
The night speaks in searchlights
And shortwave radios squawk
The police patrol the streets
But I've left behind the man I used to be
Everything he believed and all that belonged to me
I tried to find my way out to somewhere where I thought it'd be safe
They stopped me at the roadblock they put up on the interstate
They put me in detention but I broke loose and then I ran
They said they want to ask me a few questions but I think they had other plans
Now I don't know who to trust and I don't know what I can believe
They say they want to help me but with the stuff they keep on sayin'
I think those guys just wanna keep on playin'

Roulette, with my life
Roulette, with my kids and my wife
Roulette, the bullet's in the chamber
Roulette, who's the unlucky stranger
Roulette, surprise, you're dead
Roulette, the gun's to your head
Roulette, the bullet's spinning in the chamber
Roulette, pull the trigger, feel the click

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Roulette, pull the trigger, feel the click.

Nice imagery, eh?

What a depressing, dark and sick individual.

Oh, yes.

So, very, very sociopolitical!!

Another song, where he's packing up and leaving.

BlueAngel
10-08-2007, 09:35 PM
Britney Spear's family fears suicide is next.

WHY?

Because she is a mind-controlled BETA slave.

She has lost her children to Federline.

http://omg.yahoo.com/britney-spears-reunites-with-mother;-sources-feared-suicide-would-be-next/news/2939

BlueAngel
10-08-2007, 09:52 PM
Oh, yeah, I sure do hope Springsteen opens his next show with the following song:

It's so deep!

Rendezvous
Bruce Springsteen

I had a dream our love would last forever
I had a dream tonight my dream comes true
And if you'll hold me tight
We'll be riders, girl, on the night
Ooh, I want a rendezvous

Haven't I told you, girl, how much I like you
I got a feeling that you like me too
well if you hold me tight
We'll be riders, girl, on the night
Ooh, I want a rendezvous

You deserve so much more than this, girl
Well I'm riding on the power and livin' on the promise in your last kiss
Because I had a dream our love would last forever
I had a dream tonight my dream comes true
And if you'll hold me tight
We'll be riders, girl, on the night
Ooh, ooh, rendezvous

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Another dream; another rider.

BlueAngel
10-08-2007, 10:02 PM
HUH???

A poster at BTX comments to another poster:

Have you been sleeping the past 30 years? Springsteen has been talkin' and writing about politics his entire career..I guess you just haven't been paying attention. oh and I f you didn't know Born In The U.S.A. isn't a very patriotic song.

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Actually, you and thousands of other fanatics are those who have been "put to sleep" by Springsteen for the past 30 years.

It's obvious, insomuch, as you think Springsteen has been talking and writing about politics his entire career.

More like writing about his "sexual deviant behavior."

Born in the USA is not a political song nor are any of the songs on his MAGIC CD or otherwise.

You, pal, are very suggestible and protective of your GURU.

If Springsteen says it, you believe it, although you can't see it in the written lyrics.

Referencing the "Bill of Rights" in Philadelphia or "wiretapping" is not talking about politics.

They are merely references to what we already know.

Oh, oh.

Springsteen mentioned "wiretapping."

My goodness!

I didn't realize that was an issue in the USA until he did so!

BlueAngel
10-08-2007, 10:20 PM
What is the deal?

Why do they continue to lie about Springsteen's MAGIC CD being political???

I assume it's because otherwise, it's basically meaningless.

Patriot comments:

The politics is there, but it's really not overt except in "Last to Die." Even in "Long Walk Home," it's subtle and the tune can be enjoyed on a nonpolitical level, both as a tune and as a meditation on private life.


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The politics are completely not there so it's not overt. It's not subtle either.

Isn't that grand.

Patriot suggests that the tune can be enjoyed on a nonpolitical level.

I GUESS THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S NOT POLITICAL.

Boy, Springsteen's songs are so flexible. You can enjoy them on a nonpolitical and political level.

The man is a MAGICIAN, I tell you.

A meditation on private life???

By the way, 2Hearts finally has a date and it's with Springsteen.

Two shows in a row!

BlueAngel
10-09-2007, 06:06 PM
Oh, yes.

Very funny!

In reference to Springsteen's Magic song, wherein he says he's got a shiny saw blade and he'll cut YOU in half; all he needs is a volunteer, a fanatic at BTX uses Shiny Saw Blade as his name and the following as his location:

Shiny Saw Blade

Joined: 11 Sep 2007
Posts: 114
Location: a box in a river...LOL. actually in a box along the Delaware Shore

His signature picture, of course, is a shiny saw blade with the words, "I'll cut you in half."

NICE!!

BlueAngel
10-09-2007, 06:12 PM
A poster at BTX comments that Springsteen said on Storytellers, he's worried about his kids and what kind of a world they're going to grow up in and some reference to his sons, at some point reaching fighting age.

I suppose he's thinking about a draft.

You know, do some research back when the VietNam war was happening and our boys were being sent without training to be KILLED.

How many musicians were of the age and didn't go and for what reasons?

How many musicians were drafted and actually went to VietNam?

Did they sell their soul to the devil for this reason as well.

Springsteen doesn't have to worry about what kind of a world his kids will grow up it.

It's already been decided for them.

The "satanic" one.

BlueAngel
10-09-2007, 07:41 PM
The scene has been set for the set list watchers for Springsteen's show tonight at Continental Airlines Arena in New Jersey.

Apparently, SoulBoogieAlex thinks Springsteen is going to pull out all the stops tonight and use all his wild cards.

For those of you who are going, look lively, feel alive, he advises.

SoulBoogie also reports on the weather and the traffic.

As if the President is in town and the secret service have closed the roadways leading to the CAA.

Is this not the most bizarre thing?

So, the fanatics who can't attend EVERY SHOW keep their eyes glued to the OFFICIAL set list watch thread while a caller at the shows phones in the songs.

Of course commenting with each other all the while.

What is he wearing, etc.?

2Hearts put "Lonesome Day" in her CD player when it was reported that's what he played.

Talk about make-believe.

Talk about OBSESSED!!!

WHEW!!

They become completely excited and jubilant when a particular song they like has been played.

Remember, Springsteen's going to pull out all the stops tonight and play all his wild cards.

WOW!!

Unbelievable.

BlueAngel
10-09-2007, 07:58 PM
Why do these fanatics find it necessary to try to convince their kids to go to Springsteen shows (teenagers) or, even worse, take their younger children?

He's a "sexual deviant."

He's nuts!

One poster comments:

I imagine it does. He was with me when I had a Bruce sighting and my reaction made him think I was crazy. I have to lure him in gently. He's 14. He said basically he is not going to be with people who acted like I did for 2 or more hours.

I guess when you're under Springsteen's control and he affects your emotions and you subconsciously realize you have relinquished a part of your soul to him, you want to see if he'll have the same effect on others.

Perhaps, if he does, this will validate your CRAZINESS.

The craziness you know isn't normal, but just can't seem to break-away; get out from under the spell.

Why else would you want your kids to see Springsteen?

Coax them into going to a show.

Hopefully so they'll see him and understand why their parents act the way they do.

Understand their obsession over the man.

I THINK NOT!

BlueAngel
10-09-2007, 08:06 PM
Oh my goodness, they haven't had rain in weeks and SPRINGSTEEN brought the rain down.

The Church of Springsteen worked its' magic and brought the rain down.

The children are so excited.

Mind you, these are adults who are stuck in child-like states of consciousness.

BlueAngel
10-09-2007, 10:11 PM
Back then it was Light of Day, "The Rebirth of Bruce Springsteen."

Now, it's the Boss is Back!

He seems to be some kind of a magical disappearing act.

That is a strange line, isn't it?

In the song, "Drive All Night."

"To buy you a pair of shoes."

Well, if you're a tramp like Wendy, I guess "baby needs a new pair of shoes."

Fanatics are saying Thundercrack is being played on this tour, after 33 years of hibernation because it was a song ahead of its' time.

HUH??

READ THE LYRICS!!

A song ahead of its' time??

It's another DEAD song.

Just like "Reason to Believe" and "Darlington County."

Yep.

Very popular tunes.

Everyone knows the lyrics.

Not that I in any way, shape or form find Bill O'Reilly worthy of hosting a news show, but I wonder why Mr. Political (Bruce Springsteen) won't appear on his show and defend himself from all the fire he's been under.

Seems O'Reilly is the person who started the fire, but Springsteen opts for 60 minutes instead where they discuss the breaking up of the E Street Band from two plus decades ago.

The fanatics are not very happy with Springsteen's set lists so far.

Patience, people.

Patience is being encouraged.

Remember "The Rising" tour, they say.

It was better after time.

Well, I look at it this way.

When I pay to see a show, I'm not looking for it to get better over time.

In that way, I guess the reason these fanatics travel all over the country/world to see Springsteen.

Hoping, they'll hear live a song they haven't heard live before.

It is just so important to them.

I suppose this is Springsteen's MO.

Didn't hear it at this show on this tour, then follow me around.

Same as Dylan.

BlueAngel
10-09-2007, 10:18 PM
Darlington County
Bruce Springsteen

Driving in to Darlington County
Me and Wayne on the Fourth of July
Driving in to Darlington County
Looking for some work on the county line
We drove down from New York City
Where the girls are pretty but they just want to know your name
Driving in to Darlington City
Got a union connection with an uncle of Wayne's
We drove eight hundred miles without seeing a cop
We got rock and roll music blasting off the T-top singing

Sha la la la la la la la la, Sha la la la la la la

Hey little girl standing on the corner
Today's your lucky day for sure all right
Me and my buddy we're from New York City
We got two hundred dollars we want to rock all night
Girl you're looking at two big spenders
Why the world don't know what me and Wayne might do
Our pa's each own one of the World Trade Centers
For a kiss and a smile I'll give mine all to you
Come on baby take a seat on my fender
It's a long night and tell me what else were you gonna do
Just me and you we could

Sha la la...

Little girl sitting in the window
Ain't seen my buddy in seven days
County man tells me the same thing
He don't work and he don't get paid
Little girl you're so young and pretty
Walk with me and you can have your way
And we'll leave this Darlington City
For a ride down that Dixie Highway

Driving out of Darlington County
My eyes seen the glory of the coming of the Lord
Driving out of Darlington County
Seen Wayne handcuffed to the bumper of a state trooper's Ford

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I believe this song has been played on the tour every night.

WHY?

LOOK at the lyrics to this song.

Who wrote it?

A 10 year old boy?

Is this a "mind control" song to the his altered state of consciousness "little girl" (adult) fanatics.

He says both their pas each own one of the World Trade Centers.

HUH???

SICK!!!!!

Sung by a 58 year old man.

Or, is he?

BlueAngel
10-09-2007, 10:23 PM
The song ahead of its' time.

Thundercrack
Bruce Springsteen

Her brains they rattle and her bones they shake
Whoah, she's an angel from the Innerlake

Thundercrack, baby's back
This time she'll tell me how she really feels
Bring me down to her lightning shack
You can watch my partner reelin'

CHORUS
She moves up, she moves back
Out on the floor there just is no one cleaner
She does this thing she calls the "Jump back Jack"
She's got the heart of a ballerina

She's straight from the Bronx
Hung off the line
She slips, she slides, she slops, she bops, she bumps, she grinds
Even them dance hall hacks
From the west side of the tracks
Move in close to catch her timin'

CHORUS

She ain't no little girl, she ain't got no curls
Her hair ain't brown, and her eyes ain't either
Round and round and round and round

My heart's wood, she's a carpenter
She's an angel in the night, what she does is alright
Dance with me, partner, dance with me, partner
Dance with me, partner, 'til the dawn

Thundercrack, baby's back
This time she'll tell me how she really feels
Bring me down to her lightning shack
You can watch my partner reelin'
CHORUS

She ain't no little girl, she ain't got no curls
Her hair ain't brown, and her eyes ain't either
Round and round and round and round

My heart's wood, she's a carpenter
She's an angel in the night, what she does is alright
Dance with me, partner, dance with me, partner

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Oh, yes.

A masterpiece.

You can watch my partner reelin.'

Ah, what does that mean?

Oh, look.

She ain't no "little girl" in this one.

She's an angel from the innerlake.

Okay.

Whatever!

BlueAngel
10-09-2007, 10:35 PM
Bumper sticker slogans.

That's about what Springsteen's political comments amount to.

Nothing we don't already know.

BlueAngel
10-09-2007, 11:13 PM
Oh, yes. I'm sure Springsteen's show tonight was two hours, very short, and the same length of time as the previous shows in this tour because he wanted to get home and see the kids.

He's been touring in and out of the country since his children were born.

Now, all of a sudden, he's a doting Dad!

What's with the picture of him sitting on the stage with his legs dangling over the side.

One poster said it looked like he needed a rest and was about to vomit.

BlueAngel
10-09-2007, 11:15 PM
How pathetic.

Springsteen is the only thing that makes one poster and his wife feel young again and only when they see a show.

Talk about dependency.

BlueAngel
10-09-2007, 11:21 PM
One poster comments:

Dissent is a dying art in the U.S. but Bruce has been brave enough to speak out and try to get his audience to think a little about what''s going on in this country and the ramifications in this world..

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Oh, yes. How brave Springsteen is!

Apparently, this fanatic thinks Springsteen is the only person who shouts out his political bumper sticker slogans.

Oh, yes. Springsteen will change the world by getting his audience to think about what is going on when he gives his public service announcements at a show.

Just like MAGIC.

Think about it and it will all change for the better.

Thank goodness, for this PATRIOT.

I don't know where the world would be without Mr. Hero.

BlueAngel
10-09-2007, 11:24 PM
Many fans want Springsteen to leave the political slogans at home during a show.

They don't seem to understand that he thinks he's a politician.

Other fans will follow their leader blindly no matter where he takes them.

BlueAngel
10-10-2007, 12:24 PM
Is there some reason The Man has to tell the audience to be quiet during "Reason to Believe?"

This was standard practice during the Devils and Dust tour.

It was played in more intimate venues and with smaller audiences, but still!

What?

He can't concentrate with thousands of fans making noise?

Obviously, he can't control that many followers either.

Some conditioned and some are not.

If he needs quiet, maybe he shouldn't be performing for large numbers of his loud and obnoxious fans.

Is there some reason he refers to Philadelphia and New Jersey as both his homes?

Anyway, the fanatics have been complaining about the SOUND since the reunion tour in '99.

They just don't get it.

What?

Do they think the sound system is not up to par at every venue the ESB plays?

The band sounds horrible, people, face it.

They're purposely loud to drown out Springsteen's vocals.

That's why you can't hear a thing he sings unless you're three feet away and, even so, his vocals are still mediocre at best.

I've been to shows of other musicians.

The sound, vocals and instrumentals, aren't disturbing to listen to.

You can enjoy the music and hear the words to the songs.

I've been to two ESB shows.

I had the same experience.

Could barely make out the songs that were being played.

It is not the VENUE.

Why do you think people spend their time in the bathroom, on their cell phones or just wandering the aisles during an ESB show?

No different with a Dylan show.

It's not inaudible. You can hear it.

It's just that you can't understand it.

Just a bunch of muffled words and loud noise.

I suppose Springsteen's rule, if you left the venue during the Devil and Dust tour to use the bathroom, you had to wait until the next song to return to the theatre was to insure he wouldn't be looking at an empty theatre.

BlueAngel
10-10-2007, 06:17 PM
Who does Springsteen have his lips locked with in the post by PAC on this page?

Is that Clarence Clemens?

I would imagine so.

He has a saxaphone in his hand.

http://www.backstreets.com/btx/viewtopic.php?t=31459&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=180

BlueAngel
10-10-2007, 06:44 PM
Springsteen blurts out habeas corpus, wiretapping, torture and creates a POLITICAL FIRESTORM because Bill O'Reilly attacked him.

Instead of appearing on O'Reilly's show, Springsteen opts for 60 minutes.

When Springsteen appears on 60 minutes, he has two band members with him.

They talk about the break-up of the ESB from 20 plus years ago and show a video of his recent Hartford show and the performance of the song "Darlington County."

What was that about?

Was he facing his critic (Bill O'Reilly) or plugging his new album?

I'd say the latter.

BlueAngel
10-10-2007, 06:53 PM
Since VH1 is broadcasting the first two songs live from the ESB show tonight at CAA, I think they should open with "Red Headed Woman" and "Reno."

BlueAngel
10-10-2007, 06:54 PM
Maybe Springsteen's kids could join them on stage as back-up singers.

BlueAngel
10-10-2007, 06:56 PM
If the audience isn't alive at an ESB show, the fanatics blame them.

Not the performers!

BlueAngel
10-10-2007, 07:38 PM
Oh, the children are excited.

Not two songs on VH1 live from the show at CAA, but THREE!!

Springsteen's voice is weak, a fanatic reports.

When is it not??

Sounds like Springsteen (solo) and the ESB have been a work in progress for about three decades plus.

Maybe they'll get it right one day!

Or, maybe it's just too late.

Kind of like how Scialfa is still tryin' to make it.

I mean, they have the legend reputation to live up to and all.

Oh, I forgot.

That's just a bunch of media hype.

Afterall, they are the "viagra" takin' and "love makin'" band as Springsteen so eloquently puts it.
MovieLady is quite disgusting.

She says, 47 inches instead of 57 channels.

BlueAngel
10-10-2007, 07:51 PM
A poster comments:

They just seemed tired. As much as I hate to say it, that was one of the worst E Street performances I have heard. I hope it was just for the start of this show and a new tour, but that was pretty bad.

Another comment:

I'm not even two songs into this and I'm getting the feeling that the reason the crowd was dead yesterday was because the band was horrible. Look, I love these guys. Bruce is sucking wind and letting the lines trail off while Steven tries to pick them up. Clarence had a few problems with the intro to Night but he sounds better now. The sound is horrible. I was there in Philly and the difference was night and day. Three songs in is Lonesome Day. Look, say whatever you want but this started on a bad note and that's a hard thing to make up at a show. I'm interested in seeing the reviews of this one.

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THEY'LL BE POSITIVE for the most part. That's how Springsteen rose to fame. Remember, he's a Media Darling for very good reasons.

You've been brainwashed to believe he's something he isn't musically by the Media and cast under his mind control spell for a very long time.

However, you do seem to be able to speak the truth, but the "gatekeepers" will put you in your place if you continue to do so on the forum.

You have to worship and love everything the man does.

It is forbidden to use your brain to think and form your own opinions.

That, my dear, is what we refer to as "mind control."

If you express negativity as you did in your post, the "controllers" will verbally abuse you hoping to get you back into the program.

BlueAngel
10-10-2007, 08:14 PM
Comments from posters at BTX:

Even during the great Saturday Philly show, Bruce barely even acknowledged the behind the stage seats...has he gone to the walkway more during other shows?

I realize he's getting older, but he can't be so old that he can't walk up the ramps, can he?

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Wendy and Rosie are actually at the show and phoning in the set list to MovieLady.

Little Steven butchered the vocals on one song. He was actually singing a line instead of his usual back-up singing.

Which you can't hear anyway.

Has Springsteen ever had a great guitar solo?

Nope.

Don't think so.

What about Little Steven?

Nope.

Don't think so.

What about Scialfa?

Nope.

Don't think so.

How about Nils?

Nope.

Don't think so.

What about Max?

Really great drum solo?

Nope.

Don't think so.

BlueAngel
10-10-2007, 08:55 PM
Oh, my Springsteen toys with the audience.

One poster comments regarding the fact that he just played CYNTHIA!! and fanatics are going wild. Those who are glued to the set list watch over at BTX:

Cynthia???!!!!!!!

If I could hope for a wildcard, this wouldn't be in my top 100 choices.

Couldn't agree more...it's up there with County Fair, the Fuse, and Let's be friends as wild cards I hope to never hear live ever again.

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CYNTHIA, Janey, Rosie, Leah, Maria, Doreen, Mary, Wendy, etc., etc., etc., etc.

Any Patti's in there?

2Hearts says:

I knew that "Incident" was scheduled to follow "Heartbreak" on Saturday night and laughed to myself when some people in our row left for a beer run. Knew they'd be very sorry, but I didn't know them, and I didn't warn them. The electric version of "Heartbreak" was good and I never would have walked out even if I hadn't known what was up next.

Boy, were they sorry when they returned.

Brilliant sequencing by Bruce. Obviously, though, people are going to be on to him from now on.

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Oh, she's an insider. She knew. She laughed because people left when Springsteen and Scialfa performed HEADACHE and didn't get back to their seats in time for INCIDENT.

Imagine that. Missing the opening of INCIDENT. Oh, my, goodness!!

How awful!

So, Springsteen tricks them so they'll stay in their seats next time he performs that awful duet with Scialfa, HEADACHE, and make them suffer through it.

Well, they're suffering either way.

Where did he get that New Jersey twang?

Those wild cards he pulls, like CYNTHIA.

Amazing.

YES. Brilliant sequencing. From HEADACHE to INCIDENT.

CYNTHIA
Bruce Springsteen

Cynthia, when you come walkin' by you're an inspiring sight
Cynthia, you don't smile or say hi but baby that's alright
'Cause I don't need to hold you or taste your kiss
I just like knowin', Cynthia, you exist
in a world like this

Cynthia, when you pass it seems like this whole town drops
Cynthia, or maybe it's just me, baby, and these fools stuck here punchin' this
clock
Well you give us a reason to stop just for a while
Stop, stand and salute your style

Well now you ain't the finest thing I'll never have
And when you go the hurt you leave, baby, it ain't so bad
There ain't a man in this whole town who'd say you ain't fine
You hear them guys talkin', tell me baby do you mind
Well you make us happy, honey, when we feel sad
To see something so good in a world gone bad
There's still Cynthia

Cynthia, no one knows your number, no one knows where you live
Cynthia, I wonder do you understand this strange thing you give
Well baby is it your style, the mystery in your smile
Or just how cool you walk in a world gone wild
Tell me if you will, Cynthia

Well I gotta be pretty naÜve to believe in you
I know you ain't ever gonna be my dream come true
That's alright, I got other dreams as good as you, Cynthia
Yeah now baby, now this ain't no come-on
Just walk on, Cynthia, walk on
You make me holler, yeah, yeah, alright
I said yeah, yeah, alright
Well she's a yeah, yeah, alright

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WHAT A MASTERPIECE!!!

Who in the hell would want to hear this song?

BlueAngel
10-10-2007, 09:04 PM
Why would anyone want to hear "obscure" songs such as:

"Ramrod"

"Sherry Darling"

"Crush on You"

Perhaps, because BETA programming is attached.

The same as CYNTHIA.

My goodness.

They are the worst songs ever written with the exception of Born to Run.

Born to Run is the WORST!!

Rosalita isn't far behind.

BlueAngel
10-10-2007, 09:11 PM
Yeah, Born to Run jump started the ESB alright and maybe that's why they always play it.

It just never had any staying power.

Like most of the songs in Springsteen's catalog.

BlueAngel
10-10-2007, 09:37 PM
They just played "Your Own Worst Enemy" and it is a WORLD PREMIERE according to the fanatics.

A WORLD PREMIERE!!!

The entire world is watching.

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The following is very bizarre. Especially, given the fact that the poster's username is Cynthia and she feels some personal attachment to Springsteen's song "Cynthia."

Still tracking my posts? Yes John, some of us have very busy fulfilling lives, and when the tour comes our way, we will go, but for now, seeing what Bruce is playing is fun to watch. Not everyone has to post their opinion on every little thing. And I was being sarcastic because it is obvious that you are saying stuff to at least Sue, as you were in feeling the need to put down the song. It's obvious what the winks stand for. So I am letting you know I notice, when I do have time to pay attention, so although I can't stop you from gossiping and spreading tales to people I don't know, I would appreciate your keeping it off the board where I can actually see the results of it.

Thanks. And congrats for getting Incident, I'm sure that was awesome and a once in a lifetime moment for you. Just like I'm sure you understand how great it would be to hear Bruce sing your name out, no matter how mediocre a few others think the song might be.

Cynthia

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This link to a thread at BTX illuminates how the fanatics are drawn to a band, which for the most part, isn't very talented.

http://www.backstreets.com/btx/viewtopic.php?t=45958

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Why would anyone want to hear songs such as:

"Man's Job"

"Fire"

"Crush on You"

"You Can Look But You Better Not Touch"

Is this all The Man sings about?

Sex, sex, and more sex with "little girls" and whomever.

BlueAngel
10-10-2007, 09:45 PM
A poster commented that high notes and pitches don't belong in an encore.

2Hearts says that's a nice way of saying Springsteen's not on key.

That's apparent.

Like I've said and she said the same.

Some "studio magic" is used.

BlueAngel
10-10-2007, 10:15 PM
2Hearts believes that a poster is inferring Springsteen can't hit the high notes.

She says, not in the shows she's seen.

Obviously, she's lying.

It's apparent, he can't hit a high note and that his vocals in person aren't what they appear to be on a "studio recording."

So, she continues with:

Studio magic, if you know what I mean.

Oh, yes. I KNOW exactly what you mean.

http://www.backstreets.com/btx/viewtopic.php?t=45801&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=660

BlueAngel
10-10-2007, 10:39 PM
I just can't stop laughing over these lines from Scialfa's song, "Town Called Heartbreak."

What are they?

Man comes at night swingin' a big sledge hammer when she's all alone????

OR

I gave you my flesh and blood.

That just wasn't enough.

You wanted my soul.

When she's alone at night, a man comes swingin' a big sledge hammer.

WOAH!!!

BlueAngel
10-10-2007, 10:40 PM
Springsteen said the songs on her new CD were about him.

Is he the man swingin' the big sledge hammer?

BlueAngel
10-11-2007, 05:04 PM
Apparently, Steve Colbert has invited Springsteen on his show.

You know, he's recently created a firestorm with his astounding political remarks and the man who criticized him (O'Reilly) invited him on his show, but Springsteen has declined.

Instead, he appeared on 60 minutes with two band members, talked about the break-up of the ESB from 20 years ago, played a video of the band performing "Darlington County" at the Hartford show.

Oh, yes. He faced his critics on 60 minutes. I think he was plugging his new album and tour.

So, the fanatics want Springsteen to appear on the Colbert show and face the challenge.

HUH??

WHAT CHALLENGE!!!!

Appearing on the Colbert Report would not be a challenge.

Appearing on the O'Reilly show would be a challenge.

BlueAngel
10-11-2007, 05:06 PM
Some fanatics critique Springsteen and the ESB's performances of late.

http://www.backstreets.com/btx/viewtopic.php?t=46145

BlueAngel
10-11-2007, 05:21 PM
Congressional Fundraisers Let It Rock

By Mary Ann Akers And Paul Kane
Thursday, October 11, 2007; A17

If you're going to fork over a couple of grand to a congressional candidate, you might as well have fun doing it.

That's the thinking of several members of the House fighting for reelection who are eschewing the boring rubber-chicken dinner fundraisers in favor of rock-and-roll concerts at Verizon Center this fall.

Republican Greg Walden (Ore.) and Democrats Diana DeGette (Colo.), Allen Boyd (Fla.) and Melissa Bean (Ill.) are holding separate fundraising events when the Police reunion tour swings through Washington on Nov. 5. Their supporters will pony up anywhere from $2,000 per person to $5,000 (in the case of Boyd's political action committee) to rock out with the lawmakers to the iconic '80s heartthrob Sting and his old band mates Andy Summers and Stewart Copeland-- their first official Police tour in 25 years.

Bruce Springsteen comes to town the week after the Police, and Rep. Joe Crowley (D-N.Y.), the self-declared No. 1 Springsteen fan in Congress, will take a bevy of supporters to the Boss's "Magic" tour concert on Nov. 11. Crowley is asking political action committees to pay $2,500 per ticket.

Crowley, it should be known, is an accomplished amateur rock musician; he even has a video of himself on YouTube performing "Pink Cadillac" on stage this year with Nils Lofgren of Springsteen's E Street Band. And, yes, Crowley freely admits that he has been fantasizing the Boss will pull him on stage.

Rep. Edolphus Towns (D-N.Y.) is hosting a fundraiser at the Springsteen show, too, to the tune of $2,500 per PAC donation. Rep. Frank Pallone Jr. (D), whose coastal New Jersey district is home to Springsteen landmarks such as the Stone Pony in Asbury Park, is also cashing in on the Garden State's favorite son, hosting events at both the Nov. 11 and Nov. 12 concerts.

Rep. Mary Bono (R-Calif.) is asking supporters to pay $1,000 per person or $1,500 per PAC contribution to join her in the owner's box Oct. 16 at Verizon Center to see the pop band Maroon 5.

And while the rocking and money-raising cut across party lines, good luck finding a Republican raising dough at the anti-Bush, antiwar Springsteen show. We think Dems will have a lock on that venue.

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Actually, it's the "MAGIC" tour and not an anti-Bush or antiwar Springsteen show.

The Garden State's favorite son????

The Boss, The Man, the Hero, the Mind Controller, the sexual deviant, the megalomaniac, etc., etc., etc., and now he's New Jersey's favorite son!!

He's got a little bit of something for everyone.

BlueAngel
10-11-2007, 05:58 PM
Apparently, there was a person by the name of Lenny Kaye in the pit last night at the ESB show.

Lenny Kaye
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Guitarist, composer and writer is a member of the Patti Smith group.

Cute, huh?

Springsteen dedicated the song "Thundercrack" to Lenny Kaye.

Could this be more GAY???

It's not the first time he dedicated a song about one of his love interests to a MALE.

There was John Kerry.

Then there was dancing on the stage with a male from the audience.

Then there are all the duets with male artists.

The passionate kiss with Clemens.

BlueAngel
10-11-2007, 07:08 PM
The BEATLES are the BEATLES. Everyone knows who the Beatles are. Everyone is aware of their music.

Everyone is aware of their impact on the music scene.

As far as Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band, that is not the case.

PERIOD!

So, to say that fanatics don't care for Patti Scialfa because she's like Yoko, whom people blame for breaking up the Beatles is just ridiculous.

I don't really think the WORLD was watching or cared when Springsteen and the ESB parted ways.

I, for one, certainly wasn't watching and I, for one, certainly didn't care.

I'm sure I'm not alone in this boat.

The reason some fanatics don't embrace her might be because they think she broke up the ESB inasmuch as they watched her break-up Springsteen's marriage.

Could be they don't like that aspect about her.

It could very well be, too, that she doesn't add much of anything in her cosmetic role with the ESB and her voice is just downright annoying.

Not sure.

But those could be a few of the reasons.

BlueAngel
10-11-2007, 07:14 PM
What's the deal?

Springsteen comments at the Philly show the other night, "I'm so glad to be home."

HUH??

He lives across the river, doesn't he?

Was something keeping him away?

Was he incarcerated?

Certainly, Philadelphia is NOT his home.

He's New Jersey's favorite son!

If he was so desperate to GO HOME to Philly before the tour, why didn't he just drive over the Ben Franklin bridge?

Was he lost or something and couldn't find his way home?

BlueAngel
10-11-2007, 07:29 PM
A poster at BTX asks what the line, "I got my pet monkey on a leash," from the song, "Livin' in the Future," means:

Another poster replies:

Here are some questions for you!

Who is he singing about??????? GW

Who has a monkey on a leash??????????? ORGANGRINDER

Who does he think is running the "show"?????????? DC

Give

He's implying that GW is the monkey on the leash,because Cheney controls GW! Get it DC is the organ grinder and GW is his monkey on a leash

That's some great writing

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Livin' in the Future
Bruce Springsteen

A letter come blowin' in on an ill wind
Somethin' 'bout me and you
Never seein' one another again
Yeah, well I knew it'd come
Still I was struck deaf and dumb
Like when we kissed
That taste of blood on your tongue

Don't worry darlin'
Now baby don't you fret
We're livin' in the future and
None of this has happened yet
Don't worry darlin'
Now baby don't you fret
We're livin' in the future and
None of this has happened yet

Woke up election day
Skies gunpowder and shades of grey
Beneath a dirty sun, I whistle my time away
Then just about sundown
You come walkin' through town
Your boot heels clickin'
Like the barrel of a pistol spinnin' round

Don't worry darlin'
Now baby don't you fret
We're livin' in the future and
None of this has happened yet
Don't worry darlin'
Now baby don't you fret
We're livin' in the future and
None of this has happened yet

The earth it gave away
The sea rose toward the sun
I opened up my heart to you
It got all damaged and undone
My ship Liberty sailed away on
A bloody red horizon
The groundskeeper opened the gates
And let the wild dogs run

[Instrumental]

I'm rollin' through town
A lost cowboy at sundown
Got my monkey on a leash
Got my ear tuned to the ground
My faith's been torn asunder
Tell me is that rollin' thunder
Or just the sinkin' sound
Of somethin' righteous goin' under

Don't worry darlin'
Now baby don't you fret
We're livin' in the future and
None of this has happened yet
Don't worry darlin'
Now baby don't you fret
We're livin' in the future and
None of this has happened yet
None of this has happened yet
None of this has happened yet
None of this has happened yet
None of this has happened yet

[Instrumental]

Na na na na, na na na na-na
Na na na na, na na na na-na
Na na na na, na na na na-na
Na na na na, na na na na-na
Na na na na, na na na na-na
Na na na na, na na na na-na
Na na na na, na na na na-na
[fades]

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Oh, yeah, some great songwriting.

Clearly, he's talking about GW and Dick Cheney.

Another poster remarks that Rolling Thunder was a Viet Nam operation and therefore, the rollin' thunder in Springsteen's song refers to this.

Oh, yes.

He even incorporates Viet Nam in the song.

Could he be any more scattered?

Could he be any more obscure?

Who is the darlin' that he's talking to?

John Kerry?

Anyway, it was operation ROLLING THUNDER and not rollin' thunder.

Whose tongue with blood on it is he tasting?

John Kerry's?

BlueAngel
10-11-2007, 08:29 PM
Although some fanatics were sure Springsteen would play the Super Bowl at half-time or sing the anthem, he was never in the mix.

Apparently, the Eagles are close to signing the deal.

Cut from the same cloth, however!

Springsteen will not appear on Saturday Night Live either while in New York at the MSG for an ESB show.

Apparently, Bon Jovi has this gig!

Is he cut from the same cloth, too?

BlueAngel
10-11-2007, 08:45 PM
Okay, so, some of the fanatics want the other fanatics who despise Scialfa's role in the ESB to get over it because Springsteen married Patti; he wants her in the band; and she makes him happy.

I'm sure the fanatics who are unhappy with Scialfa's presence in the band accept that Springsteen loves Scialfa; vice versa; they both make each other happy and he wants her in the band.

Perhaps, they're merely expressing their opinion as to how much she takes away from the band in relation to what she gives.

Therefore, there really isn't anything to get over.

BlueAngel
10-11-2007, 08:53 PM
from Billboard

Springsteen Is Boss Of Album Chart With 'Magic'
October 10, 2007, 11:00 AM ET

Katie Hasty, N.Y.
Bruce Springsteen scores his eighth No. 1 album on The Billboard 200 with the "Magic" (Columbia), which moved 335,000 copies in the United States, according to Nielsen SoundScan. It's his best sales sum since "The Rising" started with 525,000 at No. 1 five years ago.

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How can MAGIC be the best sales sum since "The Rising" when the "The Rising" sold more and there weren't any ESB CD's released in between the time of "The Rising" and "Magic?"

Makes no sense!

WOW!

335,000 copies!

BlueAngel
10-12-2007, 09:42 PM
My goodness.

I cannot believe Yahoo's headline of the 50 worst lyrics/songs ever, included Madonna, Sting, McCartney, but not Springsteen.

Seriously, now!

I clicked on the headline and lo' and behold the banner was Springsteen's picture from the promotional Magic cover.

You mean to tell me that his song, PONY BOY, isn't one of the worst songs/lyrics ever written?

Just to name one.

The list could have been completed with 50 of his songs!!

BlueAngel
10-12-2007, 09:46 PM
How disgusting.

Mr. Spottingham's signature line at BTX is:

Tramps like us, and we like tramps!

Really?

Could have fooled me!

BlueAngel
10-12-2007, 09:53 PM
So, what's Springsteen saying in his song "Livin' in the Future?"

We're livin' in the future
This is what will be.

Ah, obviously he knew what was to come, yet he rails against the very politicans who have ushered in the NWO.

Hypocrite!

He's accepted it because he sold his soul to the devil so he could escape what the rest of us would endure.

Playing both sides of the fence so as not to appear as one of them.

BlueAngel
10-12-2007, 11:00 PM
I suppose, in Springsteen's song, "Livin' in the Future," wherein he says, "We're livin' in the future, this is what will be," he's obviously accepted the NWO because he is a part of it and was completely aware of what would be and then some!!!

Like one critic said about his "MAGIC" album in his "negative" review.

This is what will be, "Deal with it."

The critic grew up in Asbury Park and knew he would be receiving emails about his review.

BlueAngel
10-12-2007, 11:01 PM
YOU'RE livin' in the future, Springsteen
the one you never thought you'd see
You're livin' in the future, Springsteen
and this is what will be

BlueAngel
10-13-2007, 11:52 AM
As I've previously talked about, I was programmed to "cut" myself when in an altered state if I ate.

So, if I didn't eat, death would be imminent.

If I ate, I would receive the "cut" commands.

These lines from Springsteen's song, "Dancing in the Dark" speak to this suggestion.

"Stay on the streets of this town, they'll be carving you up all night."

"They say you gotta stay hungry."

Stay hungry; starve myself to death which is what I was going through while on his official site as I've also previously talked about on this thread.

Eat; carve myself up.

Nice, eh?

Eating was difficult to do several years ago. The "voices" were programmed to surface and it was almost unbearable.

Unbearable to the point, where suicide is what was suggested as the only way to quiet them.

This no longer exists.

Eating was also an alter-changing mechanism.

Another line from one of Springsteen's songs:

"If you HEAR VOICES."

BlueAngel
10-13-2007, 12:01 PM
Some BTXers are having a difficult time trying to figure out who is NARRATING this song, cause, you know, it's rarely Springsteen.

There's always way too much going on to make sense of many of his songs and too many people involved.

Devil's Arcade
Bruce Springsteen

Remember the morning we dug up your gun
The worms in the barrel, the hangin' sun
Those first nervous evenings of perfume and gin
The lost smell on your breath as I helped you get it in
The rush of your lips, the feel of your name
The beat of your heart, the devil's arcade

You said heroes are needed, so heroes get made
Somebody made a bet, somebody paid
The cool desert morning, then nothin' to save
Just metal and plastic where your body caved
The slow games of poker with Lieutenant Ray
In the ward with the blue walls, a sea with no name
Where you lie adrift with the heroes of the devil's arcade

You sleep and you dream of your buddies Charlie and Jim
And wake with a thick desert dust on your skin

[Instrumental]

A voice says "don't worry, I'm here"
Just whisper the word "tomorrow" in my ear
A house on a quiet street, a home for the brave
The glorious kingdom of the sun on your face
Rising from a long night as dark as the grave
On a thin chain of next moments and something like faith
On a morning to order a breakfast to make
A bed draped in sunshine, a body that waits
For the touch of your fingers, the end of the day
The beat of your heart, the beat of your heart
The beat of your heart, the beat of your heart
The beat of your heart, the beat of her heart
The beat of your heart, the slow burning away
Of the bitter fires of the devil's arcade

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Helped to get WHAT IN???

Nice song for the Iraq War veterans, isn't it?

BlueAngel
10-13-2007, 12:56 PM
The Ghost of Tom Joad
Bruce Springsteen

VERSE:

Now Tom said "Mom, wherever there's a cop beatin' a guy
Wherever a hungry newborn baby cries
Where there's a fight 'gainst the blood and hatred in the air
Look for me Mom I'll be there
Wherever there's somebody fightin' for a place to stand
Or decent job or a helpin' hand
Wherever somebody's strugglin' to be free
Look in their eyes Mom you'll see me."

From Woody Guthrie's Tom Joad:

"Ever'body might be just one big soul
Well it looks that a way to me.
Everywhere that you look in the day or night
That's where I'm gonna be, Ma,
That's where I'm gonna be.

Wherever little children are hungry and cry
Wherever people ain't free.
Wherever men are fightin' for their rights
That's where I'm gonna be, Ma.
That's where I'm a gonna be.

BlueAngel
10-13-2007, 01:04 PM
Springsteen's song "Loose Ends" has a verse about him and someone else putting a noose around each other's neck and each one pulling tighter and one being left on the loose end.

One of his current songs on MAGIC has the line:

"There's bodies hanging from the tress."

My goodness, always such nice imagery, eh?

Anyway, seems the noose's are showing up as of late.

http://www.clubconspiracy.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6131&forum=29&post_id=47236

BlueAngel
10-13-2007, 01:16 PM
Saturday, October 13, 2007

Washington Post

Letter to the Editor

Seventh Street Freeze-Out
Saturday, October 13, 2007; Page A18


Thanks to the Oct. 11 In the Loop page for explaining why my sister and I, who have been singing along with Bruce Springsteen ever since he first played the now-vanished Capital Centre in the 1970s, wound up with nosebleed seats to the Nov. 11 show at Verizon Center. It wasn't illegal software that blocked ordinary people from accessing Ticketmaster at 10 a.m. Sept. 21; it was members of Congress grabbing tickets to host blockbuster fundraisers.

As much as I yearn for a Democratic-controlled government, couldn't these lawmakers have invited Mr. Springsteen to play somewhere -- say, at a hotel? Then they could have charged $2,500 for PAC contributions and a chance to meet Bruce. Who bought the lawmakers' tickets for the Verizon Center show, and how? Are members of Congress buying tickets on eBay and scalping them back home? Somehow, it just seems wrong -- so un-Bruce-like. As Mr. Springsteen puts it, "Trust none of what you hear, and less of what you see."

JANICE LYNCH SCHUSTER


Riva, Md.

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A democratic controlled government is what you long for????

You now have a democratic controlled Congress, or aren't you aware of this?

In some people's world, Democrats equal saviors and Republicans equal the devil.

Not true.

Most are owned and controlled by the "satan worshippers" and they do their bidding for them.

Those who aren't don't equate to enough votes to truly make a difference.

As Mr. Springsteen puts it:

Trust none of what you hear and less of what you see pertains to him as well.

BlueAngel
10-13-2007, 04:25 PM
Could WE get the lyrics to Springsteen's song, "If I Were a Priest?"

BlueAngel
10-13-2007, 05:29 PM
An article about Springsteen and Company's GA ticket procedure and sound system.

Remember, the man's vocals aren't what they appear to be on a studio recording after "MAGIC" is used.

So, the sound system is not entirely an "oversight."

It's a deliberate attempt to drown out his vocals for the very reasons I have mentioned throughout this thread.

http://www.antimusic.com/biz/07/generalanarchyatbossshows.shtml

Excerpt:

Over the years, Springsteen has received very little flack from the mainstream media and I'll plead guilty to giving him a pass here and there because of his legacy. When he hits that concert stage, it takes you to another world where my pain is put to ease and it's a place I can excise demons and walk out not just knowing myself a little better, but feeling better. No drug or shrink can even come close to this feeling. Two-years ago one of my most dear friends, Paul, called me after one of the shows in support of ‘Devils & Dust" and he was highly emotional. He told me, "Tony, I don't want these shows to end, I don't want this tour to end because the feeling I have when I'm there is powerful beyond words." Springsteen is able to evoke feelings we didn't even know we had through his performances and I am thankful to him for enlightening my life in ways that are indefinable. However, that doesn't mean he should disregard his fans like a cigarette butt.

The reference to Springsteen's healing power over you and ability to play with your emotions should not have been included.

BlueAngel
10-13-2007, 05:40 PM
A poster at BTX comments:

The sound was bad at a small venue during the seeger tour and I was pissed. I understand iffy sound in the nose bleed seats of giant stadium, but not a small venue.

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Why do you suppose this is?

As I've stated?

The man doesn't do a sound check?

Small venues, large venues, stadiums, etc., the poor sound quality is still the same and it's been this way since he's been performing.

The fans deny what they know to be the truth because they worship him; they want to protect him.

Throughout his entire career he has been a "media darling" who could do no wrong; although he has.

They have been "brainwashed" with lies.

He is their hero.

Springsteen has placed his fanatics in an altered state of consciousness/altered reality/dream world/his world and they are not seeing him for what HE is.

They are, to a certain degree, emotionally connected to his dysfunctional character.

BlueAngel
10-13-2007, 09:43 PM
Poor sound quality; poor stage setting; poor GA procedures, very little talent, but hefty ticket prices because Springsteen is guaranteed a paycheck whether he sells one ticket or 20,000 tickets.

Basically, he doesn't care about the blue collar fans who support his luxurious lifestyle because he is guaranteed a paycheck whether he sells one ticket or 20,000 tickets.

He just uses them.

As he said, you have to make the audience believe you're singing about them.

He hasn't been blue collar since 1974 and they're the folks, along with the MEDIA lies, who propelled him to fortune and fame.

How has he accomplished such a devoted following?

Like I said.

With the help of the media and through the use of mind control tactics and plenty of BETA programming.

BlueAngel
10-13-2007, 09:48 PM
Fans complaining about Springsteen and Company has nothing to do with the fact that they're aging and becomming miserable.

It has to do with the fact that the media has written some negative articles recently and, hence, they're waking up somewhat from the FOG they've been in for decades!!

It can also be attributed to Springsteen's recent tours (solo and ESB) and public appearances that have not been to his credit and the MISERABLE man that they see.

BlueAngel
10-14-2007, 06:11 PM
Why does Springsteen take his Public Service Announcements abroad?

He did some of this during the Seeger Sessions tour.

Do these people really care?

I doubt it.

Just the way most Americans could care less about his Public Service Announcements.

One poster at BTX comments that he hopes Springsteen leaves out the political banter in Canada tonight, since he'll be preaching to the converted.

Another poster replies:

He generally likes to preach abroad as well. Part Man, Part Monkey and the New Orleans speech made it into Europe the last two tours. So I predict that Canada will get the political speech this time round as well.

LOOK OUT FOLKS!!

Canada is going to get the political speech tonight because, after all, Springsteen thinks he's Secretary of State; a US diplomat taking his message abroad.

A musical politician.

He talked about New Orleans in Europe!!

HUH???

BlueAngel
10-14-2007, 06:14 PM
Springsteen's people are so on top of it, aren't they?

His official site lists the show tonight in Canada at the Civic Centre, but it's at Scotiabank Place.

BlueAngel
10-14-2007, 10:29 PM
Yeah, close out your show in Canada with the song, "American Land."

That's relevant.

and;

The relevance to the ridiculous song, "State Trooper," and a Canadian mounted police officer being killed recently is just as ridiculous as stating that "Livin' in the Future" is about wiretapping.

"Oh, mister, State Trooper, oh, Mister State Trooper."

BlueAngel
10-15-2007, 05:58 PM
Springsteen pulls out the young guns to set stage on fire

Boss joined by indie-rock darlings

Lynn Saxberg, The Ottawa Citizen

Published: Monday, October 15, 2007

Glancing at all the empty seats in the upper reaches of Scotiabank Place last night, one's first reaction might have been that Bruce Springsteen isn't quite as hot as he was a few years ago. But then he pulled a surprise that no one was expecting: two members of Arcade Fire joined Springsteen and the E Street Band to play two songs, one of his and one of theirs.

Arcade Fire's husband-and-wife creative core, Win Butler and Régine Chassagne, joined the Boss at the beginning of his extended encore, first playing Springsteen's Thundercrack and then Arcade Fire's Keep The Car Running.

It was a nice touch for a concert that had been a bit underwhelming thus far. Too bad there wasn't some advance warning -- more people might have shown up.

Not that it was a poor turnout. With 15,000 in the house, it was a big show for Ottawa, though well short of a sellout. In 2003, the last time Springsteen brought the E Street Band to town, they filled the stadium to its capacity of 18,000.

Of course, the 2003 performance was Springsteen's first appearance in the nation's capital in a couple of decades, and it's an understatement to say there was pent-up demand. A generation of fans had grown up without seeing the Boss in their home town, and the casual fans came out in droves to witness the power of Springsteen and his E Street Band.

This time, the sense of urgency was lacking, at least in terms of demand for tickets. Springsteen's solo tour also passed through town a couple of years ago, so last night marked the third time in four years for a Boss sighting. And it's not like it's a retirement tour -- the way things are going for the Jersey native, who turned 58 last month, it looks like he'll be working for a long time yet. The ticket price was nothing to sneeze at, either -- really, who wants to pay $130 or thereabouts to sit in the nosebleed section?

Not even the promise of some great new songs was enough to fill the place, possibly because the album, Magic, is still too new to have had a big impact, despite the multimedia marketing blitz. The disc came out Oct. 2, and between the network TV appearances, radio play and online saturation, it's been impossible to overlook the phenomenon that is the Boss.

But let's not get bogged down in the attendance numbers. The important thing last night was that the one and only Bruce Springsteen was on stage doing what he does best with the folks who matter most in his musical life, the E Street Band (which includes Springsteen's wife, Patti Scialfa). Most of the time, it was a blast for everyone who was there, on stage and in the crowd. Even those who shelled out their hard-earned bucks to sit behind the stage and watch the musicians' bums appeared to have a good time.

"Is anybody alive out there?" the Boss bellowed when he took the stage, just 20 minutes behind schedule. The line was from Radio Nowhere, the rocking first single from Magic and a rollicking concert-opener. The roar from the crowd told him that yes, there were plenty of warm bodies in the house and they were ready for whatever he had to throw at them. Another roar erupted for Clarence Clemons when he stepped into the spotlight to unfurl a saxophone solo.
That's one cool thing about the E Street Band -- their faces are almost as recognizable as the craggy mug of their leader.

Next to Clemons, the crowd favourites also included guitarists Nils Logfren and Stevie Van Zandt, the Sopranos mobster, drummer Max Weinberg of late-night talk-show fame, and red-haired Mrs. Springsteen on guitar and back-up vocals. Singer-violinist Soozie Tyrell also had her share of admirers. The lineup is rounded out by bassist Gary Tallent and keyboardists Danny Federici and Roy Bittan.

Dressed in black biker boots, black Levi's and a black shirt, his hair swept back, Springsteen easily slipped into his role as a hero of the common people.

In Lonesome Day, when he threw his hands in the air, his body language made it clear the crowd was to follow him, including the folks behind the stage.

A couple of slowish new songs played early in the concert proved to be among the most powerful of the night. Gypsy Biker, one of the anti-war songs from Magic, took on a fierce dimension as Van Zandt and Springsteen indulged in duelling guitar solos, while the new album's title track was stark in its simplicity, built around Springsteen on acoustic guitar.

In the convoluted introduction to Magic, the song, the Boss spoke about how we're living in times when the truth seems like lying and lying seems true. "This ain't really about magic," he said, "It's really about tricks."

As expected, Springsteen and his crew played hard and kept it real. The lighting was tasteful, with lots of blues and greens, and the bare stage was open on all sides so the rear- and side-view audiences could see.

But by stretching the set out with slower-paced songs and new material, there was a delay in delivering that glorious feeling you're supposed to get at a Springsteen show.

It took the shock of the Arcade Fire appearance --and then a triumphant version of Born To Run -- for it to finally come.

BlueAngel
10-15-2007, 06:01 PM
Did anyone notice during the Jets/Eagles' game yesterday in the Meadowlands, in response to the Eagle's field goal kicker, Ackers, missing two attempts, one of the commentators said that he needs to remove all Springsteen, Soprano and Jon Bon Jovi related items from his house?

BlueAngel
10-15-2007, 06:04 PM
I assume when a poster at BTX provides a link to an NPR review and says that the writer apparently gets it when it comes to Springsteen, what he means is that he's been brainwashed.

Either that or just writing what he's told to write.

BlueAngel
10-15-2007, 07:16 PM
Who's the Boss?
Think you know jack about Bruce Springsteen?
By DARRYL STERDAN
Ottawa Sun

Bruce Springsteen. Blue-collar poet. Voice of a generation. American icon. Strip club enthusiast.

Think one of those things is not like the others? Then you don't know jack about Bruce. Take it from the man himself.

"I used to like to go to strip clubs," admits Springsteen on the 2005 VH1 Storytellers DVD. "Back before they were fancy. Back in the prehistoric days before the lap dancing."

Of course, when you're the hero of the common man, that's easier said than done.

"One time," continues Bruce, "as I reached the parking lot, a man and a woman spied me and said, 'Bruce, you aren't supposed to be here.' I could see where they were going with the whole thing, so I said, 'I'm not. I am simply an errant figment of one of Bruce's many selves. I drift in the ether over the highways and byways of the Garden State, often touching down in image-incongruous but fun places. Bruce does not even know I'm missing. He is at home right now, doing good deeds.' That usually stupefies and satisfies them. Hey, I gotta get through the world somehow."

That tells you something else about the 58-year-old singer-songwriter: He's got a pretty wicked sense of humour.

While you wait for Springsteen to do a few good deeds in his concert at Scotiabank Place tomorrow, here's a little quiz to put your Springsteen IQ to the test. No Googling!

1) Who was the drummer on Springsteen's first two albums?

a) Jimmy (Bad Dog) Gomez
b) Vini (Mad Dog) Lopez
c) Jimmy (Mad Man) Sanchez
d) Max (Mad Max) Weinberg

2) In 1975, Springsteen was on the covers of what two magazines simultaneously?

a) Tiger Beat and Seventeen
b) Rolling Stone and Creem
c) Time and Newsweek
d) Playboy and Playgirl

3) Match lyrics to songs:

1) "Show a little faith, there's magic in the night / You ain't a beauty but hey, you're all right."

2) "I know your mama she don't like me 'cause I play in a rock 'n' roll band / And I know your daddy he don't dig me, but he never did understand."

3) "Everything dies, baby, that's a fact / But maybe everything that dies one day comes back."

4) "I swear I found the key to the universe in the engine of an old parked car."

5) "It ain't no sin to be glad you're alive."

a) Rosalita
b) Growin' Up
c) Badlands
d) Thunder Road
e) Atlantic City

4) In the Dancing in the Dark video, Springsteen dances with what future TV star?

a) Courteney Cox
b) Jennifer Aniston
c) Patricia Arquette
d) Jerry Seinfeld

5) Who wrote, "I saw rock and roll future, and its name is Bruce Springsteen."

a) Clive Davis
b) John Hammond
c) Jon Landau
d) Kreskin

6) Complete the Springsteen lyric: "Summer's here and the time is right for a) Dancin' in the street.

b) Racin' in the street.
c) Walkin' in the street.
d) Rippin' off Martha and the Vandellas.

7) Before he formed the E Street Band, a teenage Bruce played guitar in:

a) The Castiles
b) Steel Mill
c) Dr. Zoom & The Sonic Boom
d) All of the above

8. In their early days, Springsteen and the E Street Band once served as the backing band for:

a) Jerry Lee Lewis
b) Chubby Checker
c) Chuck Berry
d) Tiny Tim

9) How many of Springsteen's singles have hit No. 1 on the Billboard Hot 100?

a) 2
b) 5
c) 8
d) 0

10) Springsteen was once caught trespassing on the grounds of:

a) The White House
b) Graceland
c) Lion Country Safari
d) A strip club

ANSWERS:

1) b. Lopez also inspired the line, "Madman drummers, bummers and Indians in the summer" in Blinded by the Light.

2) c. Bruce was the first entertainment figure to achieve the feat.

3) 1-d; 2-a; 3-e; 4-b; 5-c

4) a. Cox played a fan who was pulled out of the crowd by Bruce in the 1984 video, which was filmed in St. Paul, Minn., by director Brian DePalma

5) c. Bruce's future manager, Jon Landau, wrote that in 1974. He got that right.

6) b. Racing in the Street appears on Darkness on the Edge of Town.

7) d. Springsteen was a busy boy.

c. Bruce discusses playing behind the great Chuck Berry one night in the documentary Hail! Hail! Rock 'n' Roll!

9) d. Amazingly, none of Bruce's own singles topped the Billboard Hot 100. Dancing in the Dark came closest, stalling at No. 2.

10) b. In 1976, Bruce climbed the wall at Graceland and was about to knock on the door when he was intercepted by security and escorted off the premises.

BlueAngel
10-16-2007, 07:33 AM
Clarence and Springsteen's lips aren't locked in this kiss, but, yet again, another show of affection on the stage.

I wonder what they do behind closed doors?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rGFfO5fUvE

BlueAngel
10-16-2007, 07:39 AM
Springsteen writes a song with the title MAGIC and tells his audience that it's not about MAGIC, it's about tricks.

I'll say!!!

What tricks?

Please continue bringing your oh-so political message abroad, such as into Canada, because, after all, they are AMERICANS and have voting rights in our country.

Not that voting right's matter.

You get my drift.

BlueAngel
10-16-2007, 07:44 AM
Springsteen said at his show last night in Canada:

"It's so beautiful being in Canada," Springsteen, shouted during the introduction to "Livin' In The Future," a song "about what's happening in America now – rendition, illegal wiretapping, the abuse of civil rights and . . . if we sing about it, maybe they'll hear us on the other side of the border."

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Oh, yes.

If you tell the audience a song is about wiretapping, civil right's abuse when it obviously isn't, are those the TRICKS you're talking about?

Oh, yes.

Sing a song that's not about wiretapping, abuse of civil rights, etc. loud enough while you're in Canada and I suppose they'll hear you on the other side of the border...

And, then what?

Oh, yes.

IT WILL CHANGE EVERYTHING!!!

Who is he talking to?

Children?

Perhaps, they've seen through his TRICKS, grown up and that's why he's playing to half-empty arenas.

One can only hope!

BlueAngel
10-16-2007, 07:47 AM
Could this be true?

http://www.backstreets.com/btx/viewtopic.php?t=47928

BlueAngel
10-16-2007, 03:22 PM
Oh, yes. Springsteen and his civil liberties shtick.

Now, try going on the BTX site, which isn't an OFFICIAL Springsteen site and voicing your annoyance with the "Town Called Heartbreak" duet between the Mister and the Mrs. being performed during his tour.

One poster comments:

I made the mistake of going for a beer & pee break during Town,Philly night 2.
I'll never do that again,as I missed the opening of Incident.
I never saw anything like that at a concert before,it was like a jailbreak,people running from all over to get back inside,people grabbing their beers and throwing their money on the counter and just running.I was having a beer poured and just took off back inside.
It was like Bruce was saying I'll fix ya for walking out during Patti's tune.
I wouldn't be suprised to see some other rarities in this spot for the same reason.

MovieLady warns:

don't mess with The Boss
and sure as hell don't mess with The Boss's wife

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Oh, gee. Why not? What's The Boss going to do????

Fix 'em by playing their favorite song, Incident right after a "Town Called Heartbreak" so that the fans are conditioned to stay in their seats and suffer through Scialfa's torturous vocals and his, too?

Sounds just like him.

BlueAngel
10-16-2007, 03:56 PM
Magic sold approx 120,000 units in Week #2. Over a 60% decrease from week #1.

Kid Rock debuts at #1, with 175,000 units sold.

Magic's 2 week total is approx 550,000 units sold.

POPULATION CLOCKS

As of 5:03 EST

October 16, 2007

Population Clocks
U.S. 303,139,908
World 6,625,046,139

I wonder how many units Patti Scialfa's CD, "Play it as it Lays" sold.

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In the scope of these numbers, I'd say Springsteen's popularity is miniscule.

BlueAngel
10-16-2007, 04:48 PM
Sorry, pal, but this resume' isn't very impressive.

According to you, Scialfa has done her time in the trenches.

That's an exaggeration.

Even if it were true, being in the trenches doesn't make one a talented singer/songwriter or musician.

How many "Play it as it Lays" CD's have been sold to date?

PATTI SCIALFA's EARLY RESUME

Born: July 1953

ECSTACY (1969-70)....with Tony Amato, John Luraschi, ect. Scialfa is only 15, 16 yrs old at the time!

early 1971.....she sees an AD ("female support vocalist wanted"), telephones for an audition for Springsteen's soon-to-form big band BSB....but Bruce won't give her an audition (because she's under 18 at the time).

UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI JAZZ SCHOOL (Aug 1971 - May 1973)....hangs out/jams informally with fellow students Pat Metheny, Bruce Hornsby
NEW YORK UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF MUSIC (Aug 1973 - May 1975)....BA Degree...she can read/write music and play several instruments

1975-76 - records demos and busks on the streets of NYC

TONE (late 1976 - late 1977)....with David Sancious and Boom Carter

TRICKSTER (1978-79)...with Soozie Tyrell and Lisa Lowell (band plays Kenny's Castaways and other NYC village clubs)

ASBURY JUKES...(1981-82)

E STREET BAND (1984 - date)

early 1985....uses her BITUSA Tour money for studio time and records demos

late 1985.....sessions with The Rolling Stones (background vocals on 2 songs on their 1986 LP)

1986....sessions with Keith Richard (for his solo album)

late 1986.....signed by CBS Records as a solo artist

BlueAngel
10-16-2007, 07:22 PM
A poster at BTX comments:

I just read an article with an interview Patti and she was asked did she ever have a problem with any of Bruce's songs and she answered [I might be off a little her] that when he played "Reno" for her, she said, "What are you writing about that shit for? Are you crazy?"

Everytime I think about I start laughing out loud, because thats just what I thought the first time I heard it, but it never occured to me that someone would get up in Bruce's face about it! Sound like a pretty good marriage to me--my guess is he may not be the "Boss" at home all the time. His wife asks him what the hell does he think he is doing and his son calls hime an "attention whore." LOL!

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How do you know Scialfa got up in Springsteen's face about the line "$250 up the ar*se?"

Remember, your leader has commanded you to trust less of what you hear and none of what you see or is it; trust none of what you hear and less of what you see and, inasmuch as this line is from a Springsteen song and written by The Man, I would advise that it applies to both Mr. and Mrs. Springsteen, as well.

Is he preparing his fans to apply this creed to what I've written and what you're about to HEAR and find out about your GOD???

Maybe Scialfa said absolutely nothing to Springsteen when he wrote Reno, but when asked about it, she had to say something, eh?

Instead of saying, why do you have to incorporate "anal sex" into your song, she says, "what are you writing about that shit for. Are you crazy?"

Maybe, she should have tried asking him not to do so.

Do you think he would have accommodated her?

She confronted him apparently, but that didn't make any difference.

Maybe she could have said, do you want our children to read those lyrics?

I guess by this time it's too late, they've already been EXPOSED.

I mean, she allowed her adolescent daughter to wear a t-shirt that proclaims, "I'm a red-headed woman," which speaks to oral sex between her parents.

Did Scialfa really care about the line:

"$250.00 up the ar*e?"

You'll have a hard time convincing me.

Her actions say not.

She knew what he was when she married him and he knew what she was.

A match made in heaven or should I say hell or a match made by the mind controllers?

Someone said, Patti HAS to put up with a lot.

Really? Why does she HAVE to?

She has no other options?

The money is TOO good!?!

From an insider looking out, I have no idea as to the marital state of Mr. and Mrs. Springsteen and I could care less, but my opinion would be that they both put up with each other's immoralities and, in that sense, a good marriage it makes for them.

As far as being an "attention whore," it's quite apparent, Springsteen is one.

Children who are raised in the cult; mind control programs; are usually abused at home; their parent's, as well, most probably abused. It's a cycle.

They don't receive the "normal" nurturing from their parents that one needs in order to develop into an individual who feels love rather than one who is "empty" inside and, thus, seeks fulfillment, acceptance, love and attention from strangers to keep their ego alive.

Become famous and the megalomaniac syndrome sets in.

The fame, the acceptance, the love, the attention is needed in order to keep the inflated ego intact and the empty "child" within suffocated.

The cycle of abuse is continually perpetuated in these kinds of families.

Another poster comments:

and his wife makes him play her songs at HIS shows We know who wears the pants in that family

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I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that Scialfa is forcing Springsteen to perform with her during the ESB tours and that she wears the pants in the family.

I would surmise that this is Springsteen's idea for reasons I'm sure you can understand, if you've read this thread.

If I were Scialfa, if you were Scialfa, would you want to subject yourself to fans walking out during your performance; to the negative criticism knowing that your talent only appeals to a very small fan base?

Why does she do this?

Is she a gluten for punishment?

Does she really believe she is GOOD?

Is she desperate for attention?

Does she believe she's going to make it BIG one day??

Has her state of consciousness been altered so that she sees herself as some Rock Goddess or major folksy artist?

Or, is she just playing a role that has been designed for her?

Perhaps, unbeknownst to her CORE personality.

Or, is it Springsteen's idea?

Like I said, I believe it is his idea and Scialfa doesn't have any say in the matter.

BlueAngel
10-16-2007, 08:45 PM
Unbelievable!

The fanatics who go to the show early and wait in line hoping to get a pit wristband for about 500, wind up with a general admission spot and notice that there are only about 250 in the pit when the show begins..

Slowly, the pit begins to fill up.

People who were behind others in the line waiting for pit wristbands and were given GA seats near them are now being radomnly selected and moved to the pit.

Al's Barbeque advises not to get bent out of shape. It's who you know.

huh?

Yeah.

Springsteen really appreciates his blue collar fans, doesn't he?

They take off from work; fly around the country to see him at multiple shows; line up early for pit wristbands, they get GA seats instead, because it's not how long you wait in line, it's who you know.

Nice way to treat the people who provide you with your luxurious lifestyle.

Eh?

BlueAngel
10-16-2007, 10:23 PM
A poster at BTX comments:

Few songs from D&D get played regularly. Reno was played a lot.

Where do you live? Nothing from Devils and Dust gets played and CERTAINLY RENO doesn't for obvious reasons.

It's graphic-ness only added to it's intensity.
After the 1st listen, I couldn't even 'hear' the graphics. All I could hear was the pain. And the using sex the same way people 'check out' with any substance or self indulgence. THAT was the point of the song. Instant gratification that doesn't work. Doesn't take the longing OR demons away. If it isn't someones' fave----fine---but don't diss it in case it makes you uncomfortable.

Yeah, all you could hear was Springsteen's pain???? in the song or more like the way he indulges in sexually deviant behavior like an addict to achieve instant gratification in an attempt to relieve himself of his painful existence. People diss it cause they don't like it and they're free to do so.

I sadly once knew someone who engaged in the 'payed gals.' And for the EXACT reason of the song. No feelings involved. He's a 6 figure, VERY drug and booze addicted loser.

The song sounds just like Springsteen's behavior. Perhaps your six figure friend is him.

"Wasn't the best I ever had. Not even close."

I love the song about the boxer on the album. Really gets to me and Long Time Comin'....well..that's just a flipping MIRACLE of MAGIC

Oh, yeah. "Long Time Comin' is a flippin' miracle of magic, alright.

BlueAngel
10-16-2007, 11:10 PM
Why do these Springsteen fanatics act so shocked that the ESB will be touring into 2008?

They began their tour in October of 2007.

They're not familiar with the touring schedule after decades of following this man?

Begin the tour at the end of the year and continue it into the New Year.

I'm not a fan or a fanatic and I know this.

Why do they act so thrilled?

Ever hear of a three month tour???

They just need something to be excited about, I suppose.

Otherwise, they're dead inside.

BlueAngel
10-16-2007, 11:20 PM
Give me a break, pal!!

A poster at BTX comments:

I'm not a "Patti-lover" and have been known to roll my eyes back on the Rising Tour during her intro to Into The Fire. But I was never blatantly rude and hostile to her or demanded she STFU. And as for the person who said Patti should go on tour herself and play her songs then...well she probably would if she weren't busy supporting her husband on his world wide tour! I know, I know, the Patti-haters would love for her not to be on this tour at all, but like it or not Bruce and Patti are a team, who SUPPORT EACH OTHER.

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Scialfa could have waited until the ESB tour was over to release her CD and then tour afterward.

She and Springsteen live in the same house.

WHAT??

She didn't know he was releasing a CD and going to tour with the ESB of which she is a part???

They just happened to release their CD's at about the same time and neither one knew what the other was doing although they live in the same house and are married to one another???

Scialfa touring???

Huh?

You mean, more like playing a few venues, if she even does that!

It would cost more to rent the venue than what she would take in.

The ESB tour is not a world wide tour.

It visits several countries and from what I gather, the venues they've played so far in the states and Canda are NOT sold out.

The fanatics are not saying they don't want Patti and Springsteen supporting each other.

They're saying they DON'T WANT TO HEAR HER SING!!!!!!

If they wanted to pay to hear Scialfa sing they'd wait until she tours.

Whenever that will be!!!

BlueAngel
10-16-2007, 11:30 PM
"Play it as it Leaks"

A pun on Scialfa's CD "Play it as it Lays"

http://www.backstreets.com/btx/viewtopic.php?t=40650&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&sid=50079b65418fcf2e37ff27b453587587

BlueAngel
10-16-2007, 11:43 PM
SteelMillRetro over at BTX is the attorney of the band Rascal Flatts and best friend of their manager.

Rascal Flatts did a video at the Jersey Shore in Asbury Park.

SteelMillRetro said they did this because Video Director George Flanigen was looking for a setting that would reflect hopelessness leading to redemption and happiness. That is the story of AP. It was an easy sell and not just my decision. But I was called first when the location was suggested.

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Huh???

Asbury Park is the story of hopelessness leading to redemption and happiness??

For whom??

If you're talking Bruce Springsteen, pal, you are dead wrong.

The man isn't happy nor will he ever be redeemed.

Not even from beneath his DIRTY HOOD!

oooohhhh, SteelMillRetro was called first when the location was suggested and I assume being an attorney and all gave some good advice about how the area represents redemption and happiness out of hopelessness and told them to go for it!

It was an easy sell, he says.

Huh???

An easy sell!!!

Rascal Flatts doesn't represent hopelessness, pal, so he ought to stay out of Asbury Park.

Bruce Springsteen owns the rights to hopelessness!!

BlueAngel
10-16-2007, 11:46 PM
Ebay is flooded with below face value tickets for Springsteen's show in LA.

BlueAngel
10-17-2007, 12:52 AM
We're so glad you've had the CD "Rumble Doll," by Patti Scialfa for all these years and just today finally decided to listen to it and found it to be fantastic.

I'm sure that'll propel her straight to the top of the charts.

BlueAngel
10-17-2007, 01:22 AM
SoulBoogieAlex has compiled a thread at BTX of the positive reviews of MAGIC.

Apparently, he hasn't included the negative reviews.

Obviously, further brainwashing is needed of the sheeple so the music critics who print lies about Springsteen's CD and the man himself are used in this operation.

As if the album and ticket sales don't speak to the unpopularity of the CD and Springsteen himself.

BlueAngel
10-17-2007, 10:39 AM
Incredible!

The spin about the MAGIC CD for the past few weeks has been that the theme is politically charged.

Now, we have some flip-flopping.

Just like a fish on a hook and/or a politician.

Maybe you shouldn't trust what you read about Springsteen and or his music.

According to an interview with the ESB Chief in Rolling Stone Magazine, MAGIC is NOW the most romantic album since Born to Run.

How long in between these two albums?

About 30 years!

MAGIC is ROMANTIC?

Oh, yes.

Blood on your tongue; ropes hanging from trees; I'll cut you in half with my shiny saw blade; chew you up and spit you out; stack the bodies by the door; set the ravine on fire.

Couldn't be more romantic, eh?

http://www.rollingstone.com/

BlueAngel
10-17-2007, 10:55 AM
Springsteen said:

Bruce: A lot of different things. "I like the old Bruce better. . . ." [Laughs] It's an ongoing dialogue about what living means. It's not like a one-on-one dialogue. It's more what you feel back from them. You create a space together. You are involved in an act of the imagination together, imagining the life you want to live, the kind of country you want to live in, the kind of place you want to leave to your children. What are the things that bring you ecstasy and bliss, what are the things that bring on the darkness, and what can we do together to combat those things? That's the dialogue I have in my imagination when I'm writing. I have it in front of me when I'm performing.

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INVOLVED IN AN ACT OF THE IMAGINATION together with his fans.

The life you want to live, the kind of country you want to live in, the kind of place you want to leave to your children.

Oh, yes.

The imagination.

Keep your fans there and out of reality.

What can he and his fans do together to combat those things, he ponders.

Springsteen thinks he and his fans are going to combat these things TOGETHER through his music!?!

Obviously not!

Your songs speak very little to most people as to what kind of life they want to live except for your hardcore fan base who are stuck inside the imaginary world you created for them.

Certainly what you express in your lyrics is not what most people HOPE for in their lives.

BlueAngel
10-17-2007, 12:49 PM
Seriously, I don't get this.

Fanatics are waiting patiently over at BTX for an "insider" to announce that tickets are dropping at Ticketmaster for the ESB show tonight at Madison Square Garden.

They're sitting in front of their computers logged onto Ticketmaster, refreshing the page; refreshing the BTX page.

Why is it that when tickets go on sale for a Springsteen show, fans are "locked out" or shut-out, the "insiders" terms, but all of a sudden more than enough tickets show up on GAME day?

Is this to create the illusion that if you're lucky enough to score a ticket to Springsteen, you've just struck gold?

All of your dreams have come true.

All of your prayers have been answered.

Something special?

Those wishing to see the show can't seem to purchase tickets on the day they go on sale, but all of a sudden, on the day of the event, tickets are plentiful and DROPPING at Ticketmaster and/or available at the box office at MSG.

Where'd they go?

Who had them?

Who released them?

BlueAngel
10-17-2007, 12:56 PM
I'll tell you why all the grumbling about Scialfa and Springsteen's duet even though it's only been performed a few times.

The fanatics didn't pay big bucks to watch AMATUER HOUR, Star Search or American Idol.

They can do that in front of their television sets for free.

Obviously, Scialfa doesn't have the same effect on Springsteen's audience as he does.

They don't worship her!

BlueAngel
10-17-2007, 06:22 PM
The link was throwing the entire page off!

The following post contains excerpts from the interview with Scialfa in the Rolling Stone Magazine that appeared around the time of the release of her CD, "Play it as it Lays."

As usual, with my comments interspersed.

BlueAngel
10-17-2007, 06:24 PM
In the interview, Scialfa addresses Springsteen's song RENO with the line $250.00 up the arse.

She said to Springsteen, "why are you writing about that effin sh*t? Are you effin crazy?

Her oh, so, intellectual and artistic side thought it was wonderful that he could express this in a song (oh, yes, such a lovely, romantic expression). She doesn't think ANYONE ELSE has ever done so. She must not listen to rap. Springsteen's not too far away from spittin' those types of lyrics.

Anyhow, her heart, however, her non-intellectual side, compares it to watching your husband having sex on screen with an actress.

So, this would lead one to believe that the song RENO is a real life Springsteen experience.

Otherwise, if it were just a fictitious song, it shouldn't bother her, right?

They're just words, tasteless at that, unless Springsteen is actually writing about his experience with a hooker and another woman in a hotel room in Reno.

It would bother me fictitious or not, but since Scialfa tolerates Springsteen's sexually explicit lyrics and sexually deviant behavior displayed in his songs which lend themselves to reality because songwriters draw lyrics from their own experiences and feelings; such as Clemens' kissing, etc., why then does this particular song bother her?

Perhaps, because it is more sexually explicit and detailed than his other songs and she was asked about it and had to appear to be displeased with it?

But, she says, he gave himself license so she gave herself license.

What?

Does her CD "Play it as it Lays" contain songs about her own adultery?

Goodness, these people are such attention hounds and in the worst way.

They had a public affair before they were married.

Do they make their adulterous lifestyles public in order to draw attention to themselves?

The only people watching would be their fanatics.

They're so drawn into the soap opera, this kind of stuff, I suspect, just keeps them tuned in to the Springsteens' lives.

Yikes!

Do they ever look around their industry and realize that what so many other musicians are, they, too, are the same?

The interviewer, a male, states that the first time he saw Springsteen he had a CRUSH!

BlueAngel
10-17-2007, 10:28 PM
Oh, please.

A poster at BTX comments:

Back in the 80s, some fans in New Jersey wanted Bruce to run for Governor of New Jersey. (Were they serious? I don't know.)

Back then, I thought the idea didn't make any sense, since Bruce wasn't that much politicized. (He couldn't even give an articulate response to Ronald Reagan...)

But now, after all his political songs and speeches (he gave some of the best 2004 election speeches.) and after Arnold in California, I think that this idea makes more sense than ever before.

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Really? In the 80's, Springsteen wasn't politicized and couldn't even give an articulate response to Ronald Reagan.

Don't see that has changed.

After all his political songs???

Please name them.

Only those songs that can be identified clearly through the lyrics as political and not those that are blatantly lied about as being political.

I'm sure he'd fit right in with the rest of the corrupt politicians in many ways, but his addiction to "little girls," and sexually deviant behavior qualifies him all the more.

However, he's already a member of their "cult."

You say Springsteen gave some of THE best political speeches during the 2004 election!

Huh?

THE BEST he's ever given or are you delusional and saying he gave better political speeches than those who are actually politicians?

Yes, his psychobabble is quite impressionable.

Please provide the great Springsteen political speeches or are you lying?

Are you referencing the few words he spoke when he performed for a rally in Ohio for Kerry?

That's a political speech??

I think he should stick to his day job.

BlueAngel
10-18-2007, 09:36 PM
This is just SO STRANGE!

“New Yorkers: be afraid,” Bruce Springsteen scrawled atop his handwritten setlist for last night’s frenzied Madison Square Garden gig in New York. “Veeeary afraid.” Who knows what the hell we were supposed to be afraid of other than not getting a ticket (scalpers made a killing even though cops were handing out their own tickets like crazy), but Springsteen and the E Street Band will have a near impossible job topping the energy and heart they showed last night. In front of a crowd that included Bono, Jon Stewart, James Gandolfini (who danced maniacally all night despite never standing up), Mike Mills and God knows who else, Springsteen delivered a show that was on par with his Seventies epic marathons, despite being nearly half their length. Gone are the “10th Avenue Freezeout”s and “Mary’s Place”s that slowed down recent E Street band shows with long preacher rants and endless band introductions. Instead, Bruce banged through twenty-three songs Ramones-style, barely pausing between them. Highlights included “Adam Raised a Cain,” “Backstreets” and the new “Gypsy Biker” during which Steve Van Zandt was finally let loose on guitar. No rarities were dragged up, but it’s Bruce tradition to save them for night two. “Jungleland” was on the setlist a few nights back, but didn’t make it. Bruce, if you’re reading this, play that plus “New York City Serenade” tonight. It’s the only way you’ll be able to top yourself. (Want a reminder of what Bruce and Co. look like live? Check out our photo gallery from the tour’s opening-night show.)

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Why on earth would Springsteen tell New Yorkers to BE AFRAID, BE VEEARY AFRAID!?!

WOW, Look at all those rich and famous people who attended the show.

How impressive.

Ethan Hawke and Bono!

BlueAngel
10-18-2007, 09:40 PM
I mean, seriously, am I the only person who wonders why he would write such a thing on his handwritten set list?

What message is he sending and to whom?

Don't the NEW YORKER'S want to know what he's warning them about?

Springsteen's lunacy is accepted, I suppose.

BlueAngel
10-18-2007, 09:42 PM
Didn't this man supposedly portray himself as someone with compassion for the 911 victims and the country in "The Rising" CD?

But, he scrawls "BE AFRAID, New Yorkers, BE VEEEARY AFRAID" on his handwritten set list.

Sick!

BlueAngel
10-18-2007, 09:48 PM
Initially, there was no link provided in the thread at the BTX site in The Promised Land where this SICK excerpt appeared, but it was said to have been from the Rolling Stone Magazine.

Another poster requested the link and it was posted. However, I couldn't find an article that contained this excerpt, only a photo gallery of shots from last night's show at MSG.

I'll try to post the BTX link to the thread wherein this excerpt was contained, but their site is having technical problems at the moment.

I THINK IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT THIS EXCERPT BE VERIFIED.

BlueAngel
10-19-2007, 08:46 AM
Here is the link to the BTX thread in The Promised Land wherein an excerpt from Rolling Stone Magazine was posted and it states that Springsteen scrawled on his handwritten setlist that New Yorkers should be afraid, veeaary afraid.

http://www.backstreets.com/btx/viewtopic.php?t=49258

If Springsteen created a so-called political firestorm regarding his very weak statements about wiretapping, etc., although he did not speak these words to New Yorkers directly during his show at MSG, but it has been reported on his unofficial site as being written on his setlist by Rolling Stone Magazine, I would suggest this is worth more MEDIA attention than any other garbage he has spewed from his mouth as of late.

The fact that this has been posted at his unofficial site and none of the fanatics have a word to say about it, speaks to their "brain dead" status.

The fact that his MAGIC CD was proclaimed to be very political and then proclaimed by Rolling Stone Magazine to be his most romantic since Born to Run and none of the fanatics at BTX addressed this flip-flop, speaks to their "brain dead" status.

BlueAngel
10-19-2007, 10:00 AM
I don't get it, but, truly, I do.

All this excitement at BTX because Clarence nailed JUNGLELAND last night at the Garden.

HUH??

Why wouldn't he be able to nail it?

Hasn't he played this song like a trillion times?

Don't get this either.

Springsteen's set list includes the song Magic, Devil's Arcade and another from his new CD because of the message he is TRYING to deliver.

HUH???

What message is HE trying to deliver?

I think it's escaping EVERYONE!

If someone wants to deliver a message, it's easily done.

Write a song that is clear and concise as to the message you're trying to deliver.

Is that so difficult?

Or, speak English instead of psychobabble.

Apparently, there isn't a message.

Don't get this either.

Seriously, it's like they're touring as amateurs. Still rehearsing and practicing songs from the new album that haven't debuted yet.

BlueAngel
10-19-2007, 11:46 AM
The handwritten set list as mentioned.

http://www.backstreets.com/btx/viewtopic.php?t=49524

http://www.brucespringsteen.net/live/2007setlists.html

BlueAngel
10-19-2007, 12:00 PM
Oh, give me a break!

A poster at BTX comments about Springsteen's redundancy and boring set lists:

As has been said, the rigidity of the setlist comes from a number of things: firstly, Bruce, like most musicians, will have a specific idea of what he wants to convey with the set each night - therefore structuring it in a certain way so that the ideas and emotions will flow in a way that expresses what he wants.

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Oh, please. Springsteen, like most musicians, will have a specific idea of what he wants to convey with the set each night.

What is it he's tryin' to convey when he plays songs such as Dancing in the Dark (carvin' you up all night; stay hungry), Born to Run (Tramps), Jungleland, Magic (I'll cut you in half), Cynthia, Backstreets?

Oh, yes. Some message!

Hey, maybe his set list has shrunk cause he's not feeling up to including all those songs with images of his sexual deviant behavior.

When you exclude those, or those that make no sense whatsoever, he doesn't have much left to offer an audience.

BlueAngel
10-19-2007, 12:04 PM
Or, he's playing to his FOOLISH fanatics and keepin' the songs HE KNOWS you want to hear under raps so you'll follow him to five or six more shows hoping he'll pull that rabbit out of his hat.

BlueAngel
10-19-2007, 12:08 PM
BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN: BORN TO LOL?
Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 10/19/07
BY ED KAZ!
COMEDY CORRESPONDENT

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It has finally come to this: Bruce Springsteen has created his very own official MySpace account. Why not pay him a visit? It's at www.myspace.com/brucespringsteen.

Things are really jumping over there. His blogs tell you where he's performing and his music player plays his latest single, "Radio Nowhere." And, well, that's about it.

Oh, wait! I forgot to mention the tens of thousands of comments he gets daily, consisting of people claiming that his music changed their lives.

Who knew?

But you wanna know the most unsettling thing about Springsteen joining MySpace? Now he's probably going to start filling out those dumber-than-dumb MySpace surveys.

Like this one:

Friday MySpace survey


1) Nickname?

Boss, The.

2) Biggest fear?

Mispronouncing "Federici" onstage.

3) Last thing someone told you?

"Aren't you Bruce Springsteen?" I used to hate that, but now I think it's OK, because it's gonna come in handy when I start gettin' senile.

4) What did you do last night?

Drove around the backstreets of this town, where they carve you up all right. Got stuck in the mud somewhere in the swamps of Jersey. Which is why I got Triple A.

5) When's the last time you cried?

Last week. Dropped a damn amp on my foot, again. Ouch! Ya know? LOL.

6) Is your shirt dirty?

Not dirty. Sweaty. But clean sweaty. Rock 'n' roll sweaty.

7) Can you play guitar?

Yes, duh. But my first instrument was a bassoon. Damn, can you imagine my solo during "Jungleland"?

Have you seen "Titanic"?

Yep. It's longer than my concerts. LOL.

9) What's the last TV show you watched?

"The Sopranos." Freakin' Stevie carries the damn DVD with him everywhere he goes.

10) What are you doing tomorrow?

Practicin' with the band. Shoppin' with the wife. Trimmin' my stubble till it's just right.

11) Where were you five hours ago?

Reading my comments on MySpace. Apparently my music changed some people's lives.

12) What are you wearing right now?

Jeans, dark shirt, black boots.

13) Have you bought any clothing items in the last week?

Jeans, dark shirt, black boots.

14) Did you meet anyone new today?

So far? Twenty-seven people at the Freehold Mall. Each one of 'em tellin' me how much my music changed their lives.

15) What is the last thing you purchased online?

Guitar picks for the tour. Bought so many that I got free shipping!

16) What do you know about the future?

Landau, my manager, once called me the Future of Rock 'n' Roll. Go ask him.

17) Who was the last person you rode in a car with?

Landau. He pointed to a Sunoco and said it's the Future of Gas Stations. I'm startin' to wonder about that guy . . .

1 How do you walk?

I don't walk. I was born to run, baby. (Get it? LOL.)

BlueAngel
10-19-2007, 12:17 PM
A poster at BTX comments:

My uncle told me he was at a Springsteen show where Bruce sang, during "Rosalita," "Tell your daddy I ain't no freak, Cause I got my picture on the cover of Time and Newsweek."

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Another poster comments that he sang this many times. It is not the recorded version.

My opinion.

Doesn't matter how many times your picture is on the cover of a magazine, Time and/or Newsweek included, you can still be a freak.

I suppose Springsteen actually believes that having his face on the cover of two magazines doesn't make him a freak!

YEP. That's proof, alright.

I assume Rosalita's father knew he was a freak and Rosalita (Rosie), as well.

BlueAngel
10-19-2007, 05:09 PM
Jon Stewart dances with Bruce Springsteen:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=121921&title=daily-show-dancing-with-bruce

I sure would like to know what was BLEEPED out!

BlueAngel
10-19-2007, 05:36 PM
I know the fanatics want everyone to LOVE Springsteen as much as they do, but just because Howard Stern went to the show last night at the Garden and LEFT EARLY doesn't mean he's a fan.

Some people attend a show to listen to the music and relax, but that doesn't necessarily equate to being a fan.

One show a fan does not make.

There's no relaxing at a Springsteen show, but as of late his fans have been complaining that the set list is boring, the show too slow and too short.

Fast paced and frenzied shows are what his fanatics have been conditioned to. Springsteen's energy level and other aspects of his performances with the ESB are what alters their consciousness and, being somewhat absent, they're not sure how to deal with it.

They're waiting for that ride to take them on a HIGH.

What is with all the guitar changes for almost every song?

Can someone check that out?

Now the fanatics seem to think Stern's been converted and maybe Bush and O'Reily might be next.

Apparently, Stern has been critical of Springsteen to a certain degree, but met him at Bon Jovi's party this year and approached him.

Just a note:

Soozie has been getting some attention during this show.

Same with Seeger Sessions tour.

Although Scialfa said she's not a jealous person, you have to wonder.

Afterall, she is The Boss' wife.

BlueAngel
10-19-2007, 05:38 PM
What is the deal with Springsteen saying:

He makes grown men cry and women dance?

BlueAngel
10-19-2007, 07:07 PM
A poster at BTX comments:

What IS clear is that he is NOT comfortable with the direction his/our country is going, is not comfortable with where our president/leadership/government has taken us, and the way he is MOST comfortable coping, is by writing and singing about it. He is uncomfortable that we all may have let this happen, and he wants to know if anyone is alive out there? To get off our asses.

No debate here, he has made it clear in his introductions to the songs what he is trying to say, and live and performing on stage is where he has always been MOST comfortable.

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Springsteen doesn't write or sing about where our country is going.

YOU are delusional same as he is.

He prefaces that his songs are about wiretapping, etc., which are blatant lies if you read the lyrics.

WE ALL MAY HAVE LET THIS HAPPEN??

You need to understand that government doesn't work FOR THE PEOPLE if you think the people of this country are responsible for sending troops to Iraq and suppressing our freedoms.

Springsteen doesn't know people are alive out THERE???

He wants US to get off our ar*es!!

That's you're interpretation, pal.

Know where does he say that in the lyrics of Radio Nowhere.

Get off our ar*e's and do what?

Attend a show?

Bring our troops home?

Give back to the citizen's of this country our freedoms?

Springsteen knew what would happen in the future. He sold his soul to the devil for fortune and fame.

He said so himself in a line from his song "Livin' in the Future."

We're livin' in the future and this is what will be.

Yep.

We certainly are.

AND, THIS IS WHAT WILL BE!!!

How can Springsteen make CLEAR what he is TRYING to say during his introduction to songs when what he's trying to say isn't voiced in the songs and when it speaks it, it's still not clear???

Did I make myself clear?

If the introduction or his songs were clear, he wouldn't be trying to MAKE what he's trying to SAY clear!!

Follow me???

How do you know Springsteen has always been most comfortable performing live on stage?

It certainly doesn't seem like it.

Seems easily annoyed.

Maybe he was more comfortable until recently when he woke up in the middle of the night with a freight train runnin' through his head, took a good look in the mirror and decided he wanted to change his clothes, his hair, his face, but instead felt like he was on fire and somebody took a knife, baby, edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley through the middle of his soul.

Don't know.

Just a guess.

BlueAngel
10-19-2007, 07:40 PM
What's the connection between Springsteen and Speilberg?

They seem to be good buddies.

He was backstage at the Garden last night and other reports of them together.

Is Speilberg a high-level programmer?

BlueAngel
10-22-2007, 09:58 AM
Seems Springsteen and company are creating a dangerous situation with the Pit/GA/Lottery procedure.

http://www.backstreets.com/btx/viewtopic.php?t=50386

As far as MAGIC not being on the top of the charts, don't blame SONY for not promoting it.

You where there.

Released on the internet, The Today Show appearance, television appearances, magazine interviews, critic reviews, 60 minutes, etc., and a tour.

Not to mention the BTX site.

Not everyone thinks Springsteen's music is a
masterpiece and SONY's promotion isn't enough to propel people other than Springsteen's diehard fans to buy his CD.

If it's good, it will sell and go to the top.

If it isn't, it won't no matter how much promotion, media hype, brainwashing and/or lies are printed about the CD "Magic."

Those methods don't seem to be as effective as they were in the past.

Some disgruntled diehards are seeing through the facade.

Seems Springsteen's diehard fanbase is what is relied on, at present, for CD sales and it just isn't cutting the mustard for the fanatics.

They want to see him at the top of the charts to verify their obsession.

Ain't going to happen.

Besides, it's not the CD sales that rake in the money.

That's old school.

It's the touring.

BlueAngel
10-23-2007, 05:49 PM
Don't complain that Springsteen's shows are a mere two hours, if that, because at BTX the gatekeeperes explain:

"Less is more."

OR

He's playing the songs he's playing because combined they have a specific message.

Oh, yes.

Such a clear, concise and specific message.

More like stringing the fanatics along so they'll attend five or six shows hoping they'll GET a few of their favorites.

I mean, Darlington County, come on!

The fanatics wait patiently while the set list is being posted by a member of the BTX forum from a caller at a show as if they're waitin' on a miracle when, in actuality, they're contemplating the next song that will be performed.

And, they are so full of anxiety.

A SONG, people.

A SONG.

That's what all this emotion is about.

A SONG!

Springsteen played Thunder Road last night at the request of a 13 year old boy who was holding a sign.

He commented that the last time they played it was five years ago, but they've been playing it for 30 years.

Actually, since the ESB hasn't performed together all that much, it would be 30 years on and off and, otherwise, SOLO!

When a song is texted to a member at BTX and it is posted within the set list, if the song happens to be one that they feel is the miracle they've been waiting for...

THEY comment;

Confirmation. Can we get confirmation on that?

A texter last night said that the E Street Band came out for a second encore and played, "Because the Night."

This was a prank!

Another poster commented that it was a second encore!! SECOND encore!! This is huge! This is huge. This is a huge song!!

Go figure!

BlueAngel
10-23-2007, 05:58 PM
From Sports Illustrated:

under the Pop Culture Grid in SI it reads:

"Bruce Springsteen is. . ."

Brian Robiskie (Football Buckeyes RB) says "A singer, I think."

Paul Stastny (Hockey Avalanche player) says "A legend."

Dara Torres (swimmer) says "all jeans."

Rando Marshall (Football Broncos, WR) says, "Some horrible actor."

BlueAngel
10-23-2007, 06:02 PM
A poster comments:

Forget the drops. Pick up some great lowers on eBay for pennies on the dollar. Just saw some great lowers sell for $40 for the pair. Scalpers are getting slammed.

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Another post regarding tickets:

Received the following e-mail today from Ticketmaster:

Bruce Springsteen and The E Street Band

Bruce fans,

Were you unable to get tickets to the two sold out shows in Los Angeles? Did you go to the show and leave wanting more? If the answer is yes, it's time for a road trip! Tickets for the November 5th performance at the Palace at Auburn Hills, Detroit are still available.

Never been to Detroit? Here's the excuse you've been looking for.

Bruce Springsteen and The E Street Band
Monday, November 5, 2007
Palace Of Auburn Hills - Detroit, MI

BlueAngel
10-23-2007, 08:43 PM
How sick.

A line from Springsteen's song, "MAGIC."

I've got a shiny saw blade and I'll cut you half.

JUST SICK!

Is this the message he's trying to send at his shows?

BlueAngel
10-23-2007, 09:15 PM
The following is a letter to the editor of the Wall Street Journal.

For me, it comes down to this: Mr. Springsteen wrote in one of his finest songs, "Land of Hopes and Dreams," that "this train carries saints and sinners; this train carries losers and winners." But now, this train is only for left-wingers. Your article failed to take him to task for saying our soldiers are dying for a "mistake." That statement dishonors the sacrifice made by those brave men and women in Iraq, all of whom are volunteers.

I certainly can understand the desire for peace, but it's quite another thing to denigrate our soldiers, which is what Mr. Springsteen is doing in his song "Last to Die." He dishonors himself and his country by this act. Bruce Springsteen has become a fraud. It's really a damn shame.

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SPRINGSTEEN HAS ALWAYS BEEN A FRAUD.

A poster at BTX comments in length, but the following is an excerpt.

He's wondering if Springsteen and Kerry are becoming compromised.

THEY WERE COMPROMISED AT BIRTH, Pal.

The poster states:

What made all the other "political" songs on Magic so beautiful is the vagueness and unspecificity of them. The song Magic, okay, well clearly about the current administration's tactics and crooked agenda. But it's also about deception, and it's not about GEORGE W. BUSH & DICK CHENEY. It could be about anyone who deceives you, and it will be applicable to anytime there's corrupt leadership again. The same sort of ubiquitous qualities go for LITF, LWH, and DA to some extent. And that's what's seperated Bruce from inferior song-writers like Fogerty and Neil Young who will put out lazy dreck with lyrics like "Let's Impeach The President For Lying" and give their own material a shelf life of less than a year. But I feel like Bruce is falling into that same trap with Last to Die. There's no way that song's about ANYTHING but the Iraq war.

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You are delusional.

Put down the kool-aid.

The songs on MAGIC are neither political or beautiful.

Perhaps, Last to Die, but in very poor taste.

Don't you listen to what Springsteen tells his followers?

Believe none of what you HEAR and less of what you see.

Applies to him, as well.

You say the political songs on MAGIC are vague and unspecific and then in the same breath state that they're beautiful political songs.

There can't be a theme in a song when it's as vague and unspecific as Springsteen's MO.

Springsteen barely touches a political theme in any of the songs on MAGIC, and, if he does, they certainly aren't beautiful.

MAGIC is about someone who deceives you and it's applicable to any corrupt leadership, you say.

WHAT???

Read the lyrics.

The line "I'll cut you in half" comes from Springsteen's lips.

Very applicable lyrics for your hero as far as deception because he has practiced it on his fans and he is certainly corrupt.

Writing that our soldiers are dying for a MISTAKE is a BEAUTIFUL political song??

Our soldiers are not politicians and should not be used as pawns by Springsteen to seek public interest for CD and tour sales.

Just highlights his lack of empathy.

The audacity!!

Springsteen knows as well as Kerry that our soldiers were sent to war based on lies, but to call their deaths a mistake in "Last to Die" is INAPPROPRIATE.

Borrowing John Kerry's words.

How creative!

Who in their right mind would dedicate a song with the title "Devil's Arcade" to the Iraq War veterans?

No one except Springsteen!!

Social etiquette isn't something he knows.

Seems Springsteen's somewhat obsessed with the DEVIL.

Neil Young and Fogerty are inferior song writers????

Give me a break.

At least they say what they mean in their lyrics and the theme at their show was definitely anti-war.

Again, not that I have respect for many in the business.

BlueAngel
10-23-2007, 09:55 PM
Brainwashed
George Harrison

Brainwashed in our childhood
Brainwashed by the school
Brainwashed by our teachers
and brainwashed by their rules

Brainwashed by our leaders
By our Kings and Queens
Brainwashed in the open and brainwashed
behind the scenes

God God God
A voice cried in the wilderness
God God God
it was on the longest night
God God God
An eternity of darkness
God God God
Someone turned out the spiritual light

Brainwashed by the Nikkei
Brainwashed by Dow Jones
Brainwashed by the FTSE
Nasdaq and secure loans
Brainwashed us from Brussels
Brainwashing us in Bonn
Brainwashing us in Washington
Westminster in London

God God God
You are the wisdom that we seek
God God God
The lover that we miss
God God God
Your nature is eternity
God God God
You are Existence, Knowledge, Bliss

The soul does not love, it is love itself
It does not exist, It is existence itself
It does not know, It is knowledge itself
"How to Know God" Page 130

They brainwashed my great uncle
Brainwashed my cousin Bob
They even got my grandma when she was
working for the mob
Brainwash you while you're sleeping
While you're in a traffic jam
Brainwash you while you're weeping
While still a baby in your pram
Brainwashed by the Military
Brainwashed under duress
Brainwashed by the media
You're brainwashed by the press
Brainwashed by computer
Brainwashed by mobile phones
Brainwashed by the satellite
Brainwashed to the bone

God God God
Won't you lead us through this mess
God God God
From the places of concrete
God God God
Nothing's worse than ignorance
God God God
I just won't accept defeat

God God God
Must be something I forgot
God God God
Down on Bullshit Avenue
God God God
If we can only stop the rot
God God God
Wish that you'd brainwash us too

Namah Parvati Pataye Hare Hare Mahadev
Namah Parvati Pataye Hare Hare
Namah Parvati Pataye Hare Hare

Shiva Shiva Shankara Mahadeva
Hare Hare Hare Hare Mahadeva
Shiva Shiva Shankara Mahadeva
Shiva Shiva Shankara Mahadeva

Namah Parvati Pataye Hare Hare
Namah Parvati Pataye Hare Hare
Shiva Shiva Shankara Mahadeva
Shiva Shiva Shankara Mahadeva

BlueAngel
10-24-2007, 09:09 AM
Why would anyone want Springsteen to perform the song, "Point Blank" or "Ramrod?"

These are some of the "SICK" songs his fanatics want to hear.

Why would anyone use a shiny saw blade as their signature and the words, "I'll cut you in half" on the BTX site?

OR

The username, RENO911?

OR

"Your on worst enemy has come to town."

BlueAngel
10-24-2007, 09:56 AM
Santa Ana
Bruce Springsteen

From the tin rooftop the little boy did watch
The procession down through town
Through the museum where Daniel whupped the DEVIL
With them boys from the underground
Where the Giants of Science fight for tight control
Over the wildlands of New Mexico
Sam Houston's ghost's in Texas fighting for his soul
And the townsfolk rest uneasy beneath the guns of Kid Cole
And the kid says: "Hey, where's Santa Ana
He who could romance the dumb into talking
Take a chance with me tonight, my contessa,
If it don't work out I ain't lame, I can walk"
Now some folks think cancer's taken to the streets of this town
But Sandy eats her candy and then lays her money down
Them cats are in from the canyons to strut their stuff in town
But there's only secret sinners here
Lord, there's only secret thieves
Only a fool would try to save
What the desert chose to leave
And hey there se¡èorita,
With your playboys in their Spanish bandanas
French cream won't soften those boots, baby
French kisses will not break your heart

Oh painted night set free with light
Glows outside the Rainbow Saloon
Matching braces with a Spanish lady
'Neath a graduation moon
No more colleges, no more coronations
Some punk's idea of a teenage nation
Has forced Santa Ana to change his station
From soldier to cartoon
And the Giants of Science spend their days and nights
Not with wives, not with lovers, but searchin' for the lights
They spotted in the desert on their helicopter flights
Just to be lost in the dust and the night
Hey my Contessa, in your juke joint rags you always bring candy for the kids
Come waltz with me tonight senorita
Cuz only *fools* are alone on a night like this!

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MY RESPONSE.

HUH???

George_Bush
10-24-2007, 09:58 AM
BlueAngel wrote:
Santa Ana
Bruce Springsteen

From the tin rooftop the little boy did watch
The procession down through town
Through the museum where Daniel whupped the DEVIL
With them boys from the underground
Where the Giants of Science fight for tight control
Over the wildlands of New Mexico
Sam Houston's ghost's in Texas fighting for his soul
And the townsfolk rest uneasy beneath the guns of Kid Cole
And the kid says: "Hey, where's Santa Ana
He who could romance the dumb into talking
Take a chance with me tonight, my contessa,
If it don't work out I ain't lame, I can walk"
Now some folks think cancer's taken to the streets of this town
But Sandy eats her candy and then lays her money down
Them cats are in from the canyons to strut their stuff in town
But there's only secret sinners here
Lord, there's only secret thieves
Only a fool would try to save
What the desert chose to leave
And hey there se¡èorita,
With your playboys in their Spanish bandanas
French cream won't soften those boots, baby
French kisses will not break your heart

Oh painted night set free with light
Glows outside the Rainbow Saloon
Matching braces with a Spanish lady
'Neath a graduation moon
No more colleges, no more coronations
Some punk's idea of a teenage nation
Has forced Santa Ana to change his station
From soldier to cartoon
And the Giants of Science spend their days and nights
Not with wives, not with lovers, but searchin' for the lights
They spotted in the desert on their helicopter flights
Just to be lost in the dust and the night
Hey my Contessa, in your juke joint rags you always bring candy for the kids
Come waltz with me tonight senorita
Cuz only *fools* are alone on a night like this!

-----------------------------------------------

MY RESPONSE.

HUH???

*gulp* Uuh...what? :-o

It's like a ghost story...it's like a cowboy ghost story...it's scary! It's like....it's like...

GHOST RIDERS IN THE SKY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R2M-s2HEC8)

George_Bush
10-24-2007, 11:51 AM
I would say that this Springsteen track is a little bit 'Walkeresche'..you know..

The Eyes of the Ranger (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDP9q-i5f_w)

George_Bush
10-24-2007, 11:55 AM
It's also a bit evocative of early proto-Americana era Lone Rangerness.

The Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjQPxtMv3vY)

George_Bush
10-24-2007, 11:58 AM
In Springsteen's artistic overtones, the critic may also be able to discover nuggetory thematic overtones of middle to late Bon Jovi era videos...

BLAZE OF GLORY!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upenR6n7xWY)

George_Bush
10-24-2007, 12:06 PM
There does seem to be a pattern also of the King of the Wild Frontier himself, Coloniel David Crockett and perhaps even something of his gun Betsy and some Texas Revolutionness and Almoish immigration control overtures..

King of the Wild Frontier
http://mail.plano88.kendall.k12.il.us/pms/fifties/graphics/davy-crockett.jpg
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xf-BNkLWUE)

George_Bush
10-24-2007, 12:15 PM
John Wayne talks about The Alamo
http://videodetective.com/photos/024/001011_2.jpg
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cdki9fGsR0E)

George_Bush
10-24-2007, 12:30 PM
Bruce might be also discussing some Desperado stuff.

DESPERADO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQR6ghC-jPE)

George_Bush
10-24-2007, 01:03 PM
"Matching braces with a Spanish lady."

Yes, I think the imagry is starting to become clear. It's subtle, but Springsteen is a master of the making the dramatic point.

Dueling Braces (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsO4ukVjIzw)

Spanish Lady
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dorset/content/images/2006/05/03/spanishlady_301x400.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHOyPLSVam4)

BlueAngel
10-24-2007, 03:54 PM
Here's the newest Springsteen phrase the fanatics will be using as their signature lines.

"There's a part of the singer going way back in American history that is of course the canary in the coal mine. When it gets dark, you're supposed to be singing. It's dark right now." -- Bruce Springsteen

-----------------------------------------------

Oh, good.

Now WE ALL KNOW, because Springsteen said so, that every singer has a part inside him/herself that goes way back in American history and, by golly, it is, of course, the canary in the coal mine.

WHEN IT GETS DARK YOU'RE SUPPOSE TO BE SINGING!!

Yep!

I'm singin' like a canary, alright.

Springsteen must have spent his life thus far in DARKNESS because he sure has been singing for a very long time and, I might add, producing incomprehensible, violent and sexually deviant lyrics.

Same ole' tune.

Same ole' song and dance.

If it's dark right now, try switchin' on a light.

That might help.

BlueAngel
10-25-2007, 10:55 AM
Here's a suggestion:

Springsteen and Scialfa duet a "Town Called Heartbreak" wherein the verse is, "You've got to work with me baby" and then they duet Springsteen's song "I'LL WORK FOR YOUR LOVE."

Certainly, they've written both songs to one another and this sounds perfectly logical to me.

She's telling him he's got to work with her and he's telling her back, "I'll Work for Your Love."

A poster wonders if Springsteen will sing "FIRE" at the show in California.

Well, now, we all know what the word FIRE means in this song, but another poster comments that it would be inappropriate to sing a song with the word FIRE in it because of the FIRES in California.

Sorry, but when Springsteen uses the word FIRE in his songs, most times, they're not synonyms.

STREETSCENE comments within the thread, the following:

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BlueAngel
10-25-2007, 11:00 AM
A Springsteen fanatic tells an actor who is publicly endorsing a Presidential candidate to "shut up and act."

I guess there's a double-standard being practiced here.

They certainly don't tell their leader to "shut up and sing."

Here's a great thread:

Questions you can't believe Bruce has never been asked.

Notice how questions about "little girls," Wendy, Mary (whom he got pregnant), his violent songs, etc. are completely ignored.

http://www.backstreets.com/btx/viewtopic.php?t=51397&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15

BlueAngel
10-25-2007, 11:05 AM
Here's another great thread.

A male fanatic (seems to be common) states that his wife hates Bruce and the BTXers post their suggestions.

http://www.backstreets.com/btx/viewtopic.php?t=51474&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15

What's with this thread?

Supposedly about Larry Craig, but when you hit the link, you're asked to log in.

Hmmmm....

http://www.backstreets.com/btx/viewtopic.php?t=51325

George_Bush
10-25-2007, 11:14 AM
I fail to see how Mary's Place is violent in any way. It sounds like a love song to dance to at harvest moon. Very nice overtones, although I do not happen to be a practising Buddhist.

"Mary's Place" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21fRod4H30w)

I got seven pictures of Buddha
The prophet's on my tongue
Eleven angels of mercy
Sighin' over that black hole in the sun
My heart's dark but it's risin'
I'm pullin' all the faith I can see
From that black hole on the horizon
I hear your voice calling me

Let it rain, let it rain, let it rain
Let it rain, let it rain, let it rain, let it rain
Meet me at Mary's place, we're gonna have a party
Meet me at Mary's place, we're gonna have a party
Tell me how do we get this thing started
Meet me at Mary's place

Familiar faces around me
Laughter fills the air
Your loving grace surrounds me
Everybody's here
Furniture's out on the front porch
Music's up loud
I dream of you in my arms
I lose myself in the crowd

Let it rain, let it rain, let it rain
Let it rain, let it rain, let it rain, let it rain
Meet me at Mary's place, we're gonna have a party
Meet me at Mary's place, we're gonna have a party
Tell me how do you live broken-hearted
Meet me at Mary's place

I got a picture of you in my locket
I keep it close to my heart
A light shining in my breast
Leading me through the dark
Seven days, seven candles
In my window light your way
Your favorite record's on the turntable
I drop the needle and pray
Band's countin' out midnight
Floor's rumblin' loud
Singer's callin' up daylight
And waitin' for that shout from the crowd
Waitin' for that shout from the crowd
Waitin' for that shout from the crowd
Waitin' for that shout from the crowd
Waitin' for that shout from the crowd
Waitin' for that shout from the crowd

Turn it up, turn it up, turn it up
Turn it up, turn it up, turn it up, turn it up

Meet me at Mary's place, we're gonna have a party
Meet me at Mary's place, we're gonna have a party
Tell me how do we get this thing started
Meet me at Mary's place

Meet me at Mary's place
Meet me at Mary's place

BlueAngel
10-25-2007, 11:22 AM
A few things of interest, for those of you looking in at BTX.

Several mentions of songs, for obvious reasons, such as "You're Missing."

Everything is everything, but you're missing. You're house is waiting for you to walk in.

At one point, while on the official site, I was asked if I remembered where we were?

I stated that Springsteen told me it would always be there, the house, waiting for me. Nothing would be changed.

Could be disinformation to go along with the song.

Lines from "Born to Run."

"We've got to get out while we're young."

Certainly, I did.

Just to name a few.

Very creepy that Bringemhome's son just had a baby and the name they chose is very similar to my daughters.

You're aware that I use the question, HUH?? alot when I'm referring to some of Springsteen's lyrics, etc.

Vast made a comment yesterday on a thread and then posted, HUH?

Seems MadMel has been in "hiding" for quite some time since the tour started and VAST's presence has dwindled since the tour, as well.

I mentioned aloud how reading some of the threads at BTX is like watching a train wreck.

This, too, was referenced in one of their threads.

I also have been talking to my family about on on-line vote that considered Philadelphia with the ugliest people.

This, too, was mentioned in one of their threads asking if fanatics are ugly.

Someone wondered why Springsteen has only performed the song Cynthia twice with the ESB.

I gotta say.

Is it not strange that this man sings songs with the title of female names? Not one or two, but so many and even when they don't contain a female/male name they are about love, lust, sexual themes.

I mean, if I were his wife, or child, I'd have to wonder.

Cynthia, Candy, Sandy, Jane, Doreen, Wendy, Mary, Leah, Maria, Bobbyjean, etc., etc., etc.

Why does he sing them at all?

I guess these are the types of songs that comprise most of his catalogue.

Seems there are alot of members as of late who are new as per their number of posts.

Either that or they've changed their usernames for obvious reasons.

Check out the two threads about Scialfa and their speculation about her absence from one of the shows the other night.

MovieLady constantly tells posters to stop beating the dead horse, but hasn't weighed in on this thread or the one speculating about her return.

To them, their comments about Scialfa are funny.

Actually, sounds to me like verbal abuse. Similar to what one might endure when they're a slave and decide to use their own mind.

HUMILIATION in the name of humor!

BlueAngel
10-25-2007, 11:30 AM
Here's a thread by StreetScene titled, "Shocking Fan Footage."

However, it's not related to Springsteen fanatics.

http://www.backstreets.com/btx/viewtopic.php?t=51143

BlueAngel
10-25-2007, 11:37 AM
We all know that when Springsteen sings, "there's a fire down below and it's comin' up here," in the song, "You'll be Comin' Down" that it refers to BETA programming.

Seger's song about Rosie has a similar line:

"She's got the FIRE down below."

However, in this sense, it could have a double-bind meaning.

What strange lyrics.

Another line from one of the Magic songs:

Something like, "Leave everything you know and carry only what you fear."

Oh, yep.

I'll certainly heed that advice.

What's the deal with Kid Rock on the Larry King show bragging about having stripper poles in his house?

Nice!!

Hope they're not teaching any young mind controlled children incarcerated within the "music industry" cult who may be up and coming' stars one day, how to strip or making them perform there.

Obviously, this was necessary and WE certainly couldn't be taken to a public strip joint.

Maybe after hours.

George_Bush
10-25-2007, 11:47 AM
I suppose the Boss might drop a few suggestive lyrics in every now and again.

For example, one questions the meaning of Brilliant Disguise.

[quote]BRILLIANT DISGUISE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fx0E6EbpSn0)

I hold you in my arms as the band plays
What are those words whispered baby just as you turn away

[Yes, what ARE those words?]

I saw you last night out on the edge of town

[What exactly was he doing on the edge of town at such a late hour?]

I wanna read your mind and know just what Ive got in this new thing Ive found

[Why exactly does he want to read the subject's mind? Are we so coy as to believe that the Boss wants to be clairvoyant?]

So tell me what I see when I look in your eyes
Is that you baby or just a brilliant disguise

[Is the Boss creating an alter ego out of the 'baby'? And speaking of 'baby', I believe Patrick Swayzy said, 'Nobody puts Baby in a corner,' in the film Dirty Dancing. Is there a connection? Is the Boss talking about Jennifer Grey? Jennifer Grey was in Ferris Bueler's Day Off.]

I heard somebody call your name from underneath our willow

[How does someone call from underneath a willow unless they are BURIED under the Willow? Has the Boss BURIED someone that only 'baby' knows about?

Is it a zombie now that has come back to life?]

I saw something tucked in shame underneath your pillow

[Why was it 'tucked in shame'? What was 'something'. People usually place a newly pulled tooth under a pillow and at night the tooth fairly comes and puts some money in it's place. Is 'baby' ashamed of believing in the tooth fairy?]

Well Ive tried so hard baby but I just cant see
What a woman like you is doing with me

[I can't see it either, but appanently it's an ongoing situation]

So tell me what I see when I look in your eyes
Is that you baby or just a brilliant disguise

[And that really is the question, is it not? IS it you, baby? Or is it just a brilliant disguise?]

Now look at me baby struggling to do everything right
And then it all falls apart when out go the lights

[Why does it all fall apart when the lights go out? Is the Boss a wife beater?]

Im just a lonely pilgrim I walk this world in wealth
I want to know if its you I dont trust cause I damn sure dont trust
Myself

Now you play the loving woman Ill play the faithful man

[So the Boss is admiting to infidelity on his spouse?]

But just dont look too close into the palm of my hand

[Why? Just what exactly is in the palm of his hand?]

We stood at the alter the gypsy swore our future was right

[Did they engage in pagan ritual?]

But come the wee wee hours maybe baby the gypsy lied

[Well...YEEEAH! Of course the gypsy lied! GYPSY'S ALWAYS LIE! THEIR A WHOLE RACE OF LIARS! THAT'S WHY THEIR CALLED GYPSIES, BRUCE!]

So when you look at me you better look hard and look twice
Is that me baby or just a brilliant disguise

[Is the Boss talking to himself in the mirror?]

Tonight our bed is cold
Im lost in the darkness of our love
God have mercy on the man
Who doubts what hes sure of

[Indeed]

George_Bush
10-25-2007, 12:12 PM
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George_Bush
10-25-2007, 12:22 PM
EIGHT MORE DAYS! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdFOYtslbC4)

BlueAngel
10-25-2007, 12:23 PM
Brilliant Disguise
Bruce Springsteen

I hold you in my arms
as the band plays
What are those words whispered baby
just as you turn away
I saw you last night
out on the edge of town
I wanna read your mind
To know just what I've got in this new thing I've found
So tell me what I see
when I look in your eyes
Is that you baby
or just a brilliant disguise

A Brilliant Disguise refers to alter personalities

I heard somebody call your name
from underneath our willow
I saw something tucked in shame
underneath your pillow
Well I've tried so hard baby
but I just can't see
What a woman like you
is doing with me
So tell me who I see
when I look in your eyes
Is that you baby
or just a brilliant disguise

Now look at me baby
struggling to do everything right
And then it all falls apart
when out go the lights
I'm just a lonely pilgrim
I walk this world in wealth
I want to know if it's you I don't trust
'cause I damn sure don't trust myself

Now you play the loving woman
I'll play the faithful man
But just don't look too close
into the palm of my hand
We stood at the alter
the gypsy swore our future was right
But come the wee wee hours
Well maybe baby the gypsy lied
So when you look at me
you better look hard and look twice
Is that me baby
or just a brilliant disguise

Tonight our bed is cold
I'm lost in the darkness of our love
God have mercy on the man
Who doubts what he's sure of

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Obviously, he wasn't playing the part of a faithful man while married to Julianne.

So, was this song written while he was married to Julianne before his affair with Scialfa became public knowledge?

Or, was it written after he married Scialfa?

Doesn't matter. They can use whatever date they want.

Whom did he stand at the alter with when the gypsy swore their future was right?

Julianne and/or Scialfa?

I highly doubt it.

I would say it was with a child and that the marriage, of course, was not a REAL marriage.

He doesn't trust himself.

Not the first time he's stated this in a song.

He also says in another song that he has two faces and one treats his love interest in the song very mean and cruel.

When the lights go out, it all falls apart.

What happens when the lights go out?

The Brilliant Disguise also speaks to the fact that back in the day, was I sure it was him or someone with a brilliant disguise impersonating him and the same speaks to the time I was on his OFFICIAL site.

Interesting, you note the line from the movie "Dirty Dancing."

As you know, that doesn't have anything to do with this song, but, in fact, my husband and children very often state to me that "you can't put baby in a corner."

FYI, as you know, I never commented that Mary's Place was a violent song.

George_Bush
10-25-2007, 12:39 PM
Now this is intriging. Notice that Brilliant Disguise seems to be set in the time frame of midnight on new year's eve.


ALSO, the 'don't put baby in a corner' scene in Dirty Dancing is set at midnight on new year's eve!

Nobody Puts Baby in a Corner! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vciEDI3dD8I)

I think that it is highly probable that Springsteen may have been watching Dirty Dancing while composing Brilliant Disguise.

This stands to reason also inasmuch as both Brilliant Disguise AND Dirty Dancing came out in 1987.

The Time of My Life (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SLWzZoDmhg)

Now, interestingly enough, this was also the first year that I was awarded the game ball for my pitching performance.

1987 was also the first year AFTER Halley's Comet passed close by the earth.

P.S. Notice in the Dirty Dancing final scene around 2:15 - 4:00.

Notice how Swayzy 'leaps' off stage.

Notice how he turns his head around and spaszes out on the floor.

Then notice how the 'whole' group of 'dancer's' starts 'dancing' in step with him.

Notice how Chauvanistic he seems to be...

BlueAngel
10-25-2007, 01:03 PM
Notice how GB's observations are, most times, inaccurate or purely the outcome of a very "vivid" imagination.

BlueAngel
10-25-2007, 02:17 PM
The fanatics over at the Springsteen FARM are for all intents and purposes somewhat braindead.

One poster comments:

We are lucky to have a great artist to remind us of what happens when we buy into these fears:
"Fear is a powerful thing. It can turn your heart black you can trust. It'll take your God-filled soul. Fill it with devils and dust"

---------------------------------------------

YOU NEED AN ARTIST TO REMIND YOU of what happens when you buy into fears?

YOU ARE NOT CAPABLE OF KNOWING THIS WITHOUT SPRINGSTEEN REMINDING YOU?

I'll tell you one thing.

Fear is a natural response to danger.

So, to live without FEAR of the current situation that America is UNDER, being hijacked by a brutal regime/dictatorship/nazi/fascist/totalitarian government, would not be in your best interest.

For you to hear the message from Springsteen that you shouldn't buy into these fears is not very good advice.

But, this is apparently what Springsteen desires from his fanatics.

THIS IS WHAT WILL BE he tells them. We're livin' in the future and this is what will be.

If you interpret the line from Devils and Dust as Springsteen tellin you not to buy into fear, why then does he tell you in a song to carry only WHAT YOU FEAR?

FEAR is what propels one to LEAVE A DANGEROUS situation, confront it, fight it.

For your leader to tell you that YOU CAN TRUST him, whomever, because otherwise FEAR will take your God-filled soul and fill it with devils and dust is not leading you into a Land of Hopes of Dreams, but a land of temptation/illusion.

He's telling you to trust that which isn't trustworthy, himself; our government, because otherwise your soul will be filled with Devils and Dust.

Doublespeak, double-bind message; mind controller, handler, "satanic pig," BRUCE SPRINGTEEN.

But, then again, he is sending a message to the American people and the world during his MAGIC tour; how befitting a title for such an extreme and dark time in America, about the State of our Union.

Warning us.

Singing like a canary.

HYPOCRITE!

The man might as well be speaking about himself.

Fear took his God-fill soul, his ability to trust and turned it to devils and dust.

COWARD that he is and WAS...

What a ridiculous line.

Fear will turn your GOD-filled soul into devils and dust, so you can trust.

TRUST WHOM?

TRUST WHAT?

I wouldn't trust Springsteen if my life depended on it and believe me, at one time in my life, it did.

I speak from EXPERIENCE.

You are a flock of Springsteen's mind controlled sheep who have been BLINDED BY HIS LIGHT and are drinking kool-aid.

BlueAngel
10-25-2007, 07:54 PM
From the Philly Daily News today -

Letters | The Boss blows in the wind

DAVID BRADLEY'S op-ed "The Boss Sounds the Alarm" tries to paint Bruce Springsteen as a heroic poet-activist, trying to warn fellow Americans against the evils in our system of government. According to "the Boss," there are lies and deceit in the heart of every politician and capitalist who dares profit from this land.
This millionaire rock star, who capitalized big-time on our system while waving the flag back in the '80s, is now sour on this country and its people? Cry me a river, Bruce. Then dry your tears with the money you just made duping the American public again.

Apparently, Bruce will take any side in a political debate if it can make him a buck. During the Reagan '80s, he was patriotic. Now he's an anti-American conspiracy theorist because he thinks that will sell. Well, there's something more important than style, Bruce, and it's called substance.

Stuart Caesar

Philadelphia

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The only error in your letter is that Springsteen is definitely NOT a conspiracy theorist!!!

He is a PART of the CONSPIRACY.

He is not anti-American in the sense that he blurts out words such as wiretapping, etc.

He is anti-American because he is a part of the "satanic cult" that seeks to destory humanity and America.

He's basically a hypocrite and worse.

He isn't warning the American people about anything we don't already know so I don't see where you have drawn this conclusion that Springsteen says all politicians are deceitful and liars.

Many are, but he hasn't said that.

In fact, he falls into the same category.

Springsteen dupes his fanatics, not the American people.

As I've stated over and over again, Born in the USA sounds patriotic in the title, however, the lyrics have no substance that speaks to patriotism.

Just a nice CATCH PHRASE!

As I've also stated, musicians who are a part of the corrupt musical industrial complex connect themselves with charitable events, sing (not in Springsteen's case because his lyrics are always disconnected and cryptic) about wars, etc., in order to attract and keep their flock of sheep following them.

As with Dylan's "Masters of War." It certainly hooked a lot of people because it opened their eyes, but afterwards the door was shut.

Dylan provided a glimpse and a peek into the Military Industrial Complex, but that is about all Dylan has offered ever since.

The powers that be won't allow anymore. You can only go so far for appearance sake.

Besides, mere words in a song do not threaten their control.

It is a personal song, too, in some respects. Read the lyrics:

"You threaten my unborn children."

This is a common scare tactic within the cult. Threaten your children with death before they are born if you attempt to leave the cult.

IT happened to me. It was said that my children would never be safe if I escaped the cult. The reason I lived with anxiety about their safety for so long and unbeknownst to me why until I woke up from my deep sleep.

However, these musician's children, in most cases, will become a part of the same system.

Musicians change nothing about our country with their songs.

They make a fortune and so, too, do the music mobsters.

BlueAngel
10-25-2007, 07:59 PM
I would look into Springsteen's eyes and he would ask, is it me?

I would reply sometimes, yes, it's the REAL YOU. This meant that it wasn't one of his alters.

It was his core.

How could I tell, he would ask.

I could tell by his eyes.

Sometimes when he wasn't in his core, his eyes would get a glazed over look; distant look.

The BRILLIANT DISGUISE song is disinformation to cover up this reality.

I've explained this in the thread before.

In other words, when I saw him in the past, was it really him or someone disguised as him?

Or, when I was on his official site, was it really him I was talking to or someone pretending to be him, brilliantly disguised.

In reality, it speaks to his alters.

BlueAngel
10-25-2007, 08:26 PM
This is PRICELESS!

Bringemhome wants to have a serious discussion on BTX in The Promised Land about Springsteen and mysticism.

She says:

Bring 'em home wrote:
Mysticism in general refers to a direct and immediate experience of the sacred, or the knowledge derived from such an experience.

I know that the lyrics in Magic lend themselves more to the art of skullduggery than to mysticism, but I love the the use of the "magic" theme to make Bruce's point about the times in which we live.

Are there other mystic images running through the old songs, or is this perhaps a new bent for him?

What do you think?

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A poster comments:

I think your quote is stupid.

I would have replied the same.

She says that the lyrics in Magic lend themselves more to the ART of skullduggery.

HUH???

What songs is she referencing and what lyrics is she reading?

Skullduggery - underhand or dishonest behavior.

Well, the lyrics in the MAGIC songs certainly lend themselves to Springsteen's underhanded and dishonest behavior as do most of his songs.

He's got a wife who pretends she's loving and he's a husband who pretends to be faithful.

Skullduggery is an ART?

YEP.

All those within the cult practice the art of deceit and deception whether on the American people, the world or a musician's fanatics.

Springsteen included.

Ill defined religious or spiritual beliefs as in mysticism is what the "satanic cult" operates by and since Springsteen is a part of the cult, practices Black Magic and is a Pagan, it would be safe to say that he practices the art of deceit and deception as well, i.e., skulldruggery.

I'll vouch for that.

Just a jack of all trades, I'd say.

BlueAngel
10-25-2007, 10:06 PM
Regarding Springsteen's song, "You'll Be Coming Down," of course, many of the fans are certain it refers to ORAL sex and a prostitute.

Why wouldn't they?

Many of his songs do reference this subject matter.

Which song is it on Magic that has a line about "putting it in?"

But, this posters explanation is so out there:

vapid celebrity culture. most notably the Paris Hiltons and Nicole Rickie's of the world. Brittany.

see the last lyric of "crushed metal and broken glass of your shiny dream machine." or something another? inspired by all the car crashes these girls get into because womenz under no circumstances should be allowed behind the wheel of a 500 hp Lambo. much less a drunk Lindsey Lohan.

ok maybe if you're danika patrick

but yeah its a cautionary tale of sorts....

"they'll chew you up and spit you right out" he warn of the vultures that exploit such celebrity at the top of the song....

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Oh, yes, this song clearly references celebrity culture and Springsteen is clearly referring to Paris, Britney and the Nicole's of celebrity status.

Yes, he's certainly referring to these girls driving cars when he uses the words, "crushed metal of your flying machine."

How pathetic.

Oh, yes. A cautionary tale, as usual, eh?

"They'll chew you up and spit you out" is Springsteen's warning about the vultures that exploit such celebrities.

Unbelievable.

Actually, I believe he's raising a false flag to another individual of non-celebrity status about the "chew you up and spit you out."

I think it's the other way around.

This individual is doing the chewing and spitting.

BlueAngel
10-25-2007, 10:12 PM
There's talk now about Springsteen's "World's Apart" song from The Rising sounding similar to Neil Young's "Boxcar."

Springsteen has a song titled "Long Walk Home" and so, too, does Neil Young.

The lyrics are different, only similarity, haven't listened to the music, is that in Young's song he references a ship liberty and in another song on Springsteen's Magic CD he references a ship liberty.

Doesn't write his own music, as I've said and seems to be somewhat of a rip-off artist.

BlueAngel
10-26-2007, 09:33 AM
Boss comes up short in Oakland
By Jim Harrington
STAFF WRITER

Article Launched: 10/26/2007 05:58:40 AM PDT

Bruce Springsteen has been around long enough to remember the days when venues were named after cities, not corporations. He made that point on Thursday night, quite sarcastically, after referring to Oracle Arena as "Oakland Coliseum."
"That's what it used to be," the 58-year-old New Jersey rocker quipped. "Now, it's like Hooters -- Hooters Auditorium."

During this concert, the first half of a two-night stand at Oracle, Springsteen may indeed have been preoccupied with thoughts of Hooters (the restaurant chain, that is) and been in the mood for some hot wings and cold brews. That would explain why Thursday's show didn't rank up there with the Boss' best.

That assessment warrants repeating: It didn't live up to the Boss's best. For just about any act on the planet not named Bruce Springsteen, it would have been a career night. That's how high the singer-songwriter-guitarist has set the bar for himself, especially when he is touring with his fabled E Street Band. This time around, Springsteen fell a bit short of clearing that bar.

Imagine if Einstein had gotten a B on a test in school.

There were several un-Springsteen-like problems with this show. Most notably, the setlist, which drew heavily from the Boss' new album, "Magic," and several lesser-known tracks from his back catalog, was questionable. Secondly, the show was somewhat poorly paced, resulting in uncharacteristically long stretches of apathy from the crowd. Finally, the concert lasted just a hair over 2 hours, a mere nanosecond to longtime fans used to seeing their man "Prove It All Night."
The sheer excitement of watching Springsteen and his E Streeters take the stage was enough to carry the first portion of the show, especially since the Boss left his most fabled band behind on his two previous swings through the Bay Area (in 2005 and '06). The nine-piece ensemble roared at the start, moving through the "Magic" opener "Radio Nowhere" and then diving into 1980's "The River" for a sensational take on "The Ties That Bind."

Many of the new tunes, especially "Gypsy Biker," which featured a titanic guitar dual between Springsteen and Little Steven Van Zandt that recalled Neil Young and Crazy Horse prior to Danny Whitten's death, sounded quite strong. He also tossed in several likeable cuts from 2002's "The Rising," including the title track and "Lonesome Day," but left out too many of that album's best numbers.

He also left out the greatest hits. In the first 100 minutes of the show, Springsteen only played two older fan favorites, "The Promised Land" and "Badlands," both of which hail from 1978's "Darkness on the Edge of Town." In their place, fans got the chance to hear the Boss's wife, Patti Scialfa, sing lead on "Town Called Heartbreak," from her solo album "Play It as It Lays," which amounted to nothing more than a good opportunity for a bathroom break or to check the score on of the World Series game.

The Boss was in danger of losing his audience by the time he hit "Badlands." That song had concertgoers smiling and singing, but the facial expressions would quickly change as Springsteen closed "Badlands" and waived good night.

Could a Springsteen show really end after one hour and 45 minutes? No one in the building thought the Boss was really calling it a night and most assumed that, in reality, we'd barely reached the halfway point of the concert.

Springsteen did return and the encore was, by far, the most energetic and enjoyable segment of the show. It was also quite a bit shorter than fans expected. The Jersey gang tore through sensational versions of the big hits "Thunder Road," "Born to Run" and "Dancing in the Dark" before surprising the crowd with the old-timey number "American Land," a original composition found on some editions of 2006's "We Shall Overcome: The Seeger Sessions."

Then, after performing just over two hours of music, Springsteen said goodnight for the second time. Fans thought he was bluffing again. Yet, this time he meant it. The Boss called it quits and then walked off the stage with, presumably, still time to make last call for hot wings at Hooters.

Reach Jim Harrington at jharrington@bayareanewsgroup.com.

SETLIST

"Radio Nowhere"

"The Ties That Bind"

"Lonesome Day"

"Gypsy Biker"

"Magic"

"Reason To Believe"

"Adam Raised a Cain"

"She's the One"

"Livin' in the Future"

"The Promised Land"

"Town Called Heartbreak"

"Backstreets"

"Your Own Worst Enemy"

"Devil's Arcade"

"The Rising"

"Last To Die"

"Long Walk Home"

"Badlands"

ENCORE

"Girls in their Summer Clothes"

"Thunder Road"

"Born to Run"

"Dancing in the Dark"

"American Land"

George_Bush
10-26-2007, 10:09 AM
Actually, Einstein received an F in 7th grade math.

At times, he got so board with his schoolwork he stopped doing it and consequently failed math. Einstein's mathematics professor, Hermann Minkowski, got so angered with Albert's lack of interest in the class; he called Einstein a "lazy dog." From the time he was very young till his death, he would only study what he wanted to. When Einstein was in college, he often got upset because the Physics Professors only covered the "Old Physics" and Einstein wanted to learn about the "New Physics."

Einstein's life after college was nothing to brag about either. He passed his math and physics examinations with flying colors but could not find a job.

I relate to Einstein in this regard. It is not simply that many students think school is boring because it involves work. Rather, it is that school ACTUALLY IS BORING!

Public education is horrible because public education always sets the bar at the lowest common denominator. This is so that stupid kids will be able to pass the tests and feel that they are 'equal' to everyone else. But they aren't.

This phenomenon is especially true in higher education. University is a total farse, a most cruel hoax. I once sucessfully convinced a university math professor (PH.D.) that Venn Diagrams were a logical impossibility. Seriously, she bought it hook, line, and sinker! I wish I were simply making this up, but it is true. And I wasn't even a math major, I was in the LIBERAL ARTS!

I hated school with a passion because it was unfair. I could have been in college when I was 15 years old and pass every subject with As. But no! Alas, I was from a 'broken' 'poor' family, 'broken' and 'poor' from an ongoing 'Silent War' by so-called 'elites'.

I've said this before and I'll say it again, ALL UNIVERSITY'S ARE MADE UP OF PROFESSORS WHO ARE THE MOST GULLIBLE, POLITICALLY CORRECT, HERD-MINDED PEOPLE ON THE FACE OF THE PLANET! That is how they got where they are today. I can honestly say that did not 'learn' one solitary thing from any professor I have ever had. Everything I know I learned from dusty old books, and hours spent alone in library stacks.

I once told my department chairman how I felt about his ignorant, dumbed-down curriculum. I was summarily dismissed from the University. And that was the best day of my entire life. I had graduated from without an M.B.A. (Masters of Bullshit Arts)

BlueAngel
10-26-2007, 12:15 PM
Is there some reason, perhaps uncontrollable impulses, that require you dump your garbage on this thread and this site?

Author your own thread about Einstein.

If you don't have anything of IMPORTANCE to add to this thread topic, just stay out of it.

BlueAngel
10-26-2007, 12:20 PM
In the Rolling Stone interview, Springsteen said that he believed that the people seeing the E Street Band now are seeing them at their best.

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This is the perfect example of a PATHOLOGICAL LIAR.

BlueAngel
10-26-2007, 12:30 PM
A poster at BTX comments:

I'm with you Cameo. The women is gorgeous, talented and married to Bruce Springsteen. I like a little sarcastic humor every now & then (like the stuff done by the guy who writes spoofs about the band including make-up dialogues); but the relentess torching of Patti seems to be over the top.

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Seriously, dear. Just because your opinion of Scialfa is that she has CLASS, is married to Springsteen and is gorgeous doesn't make her talented.

As per usual, the excuses continue.

Scialfa's appearances (wouldn't refer to it as a tour) during her last album was BUMPED because of the Vote for Change tour.

Another poster comments:

I'm not trying to bash Patti, but seriously, is there really a clamoring for a "tour" ?

There is a difference between a "tour" and 5-10 promotional appearances/shows.

She should do what she did before and have a few shows in a few select cities. There aren't enough fans to warrant a tour.

Another poster comments:

"And while it's likely that I would never have heard of Patti Scialfa if it weren't for Bruce Springsteen, that doesn't diminish her talent one bit."

You never would have heard of Scialfa if not for Springsteen because her talent didn't make her name well known.

BlueAngel
10-26-2007, 12:33 PM
BlueAngel wrote:
In the Rolling Stone interview, Springsteen said that he believed that the people seeing the E Street Band now are seeing them at their best.

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This is the perfect example of a PATHOLOGICAL LIAR.

Yes.

Definitely at their best.

Barely two hour shows.

Clarence sits during most of the performance.

Town Called Heartbreak duet is a momentum killer.

Poor sound quality.

Magic songs are sub-par along with Cynthia, Darlington County, Thundercrack, Born to Run, Dancing in the Dark, No Surrender, Ties that Bind, etc., etc.

YAWN!

Gosh. Talk about worn-out!

BlueAngel
10-26-2007, 12:43 PM
Seems almost every venue that Springsteen and the ESB perform in has BAD SOUND QUALITY.

Could it be poor equipment, poor technicians?

Or, as I've said, it's purposeful.

To drown out the HORRIBLE VOCALS.

Not a very tight band either.

Back in the day when the fanatics were younger, loud sound wasn't annoying.

When you get older, LOUD NOISE isn't something most of us welcome.

A poster comments:

Now on to the bad part. The sound was definitely NOT up to par. I was at both MSG shows and the sound tonight was very, very bad. Now I understand what some of the folks here were saying when we all accused them of bitching too much and complaining about the bad sound. Way too loud, not in a good way. The instruments, specially the guitars, drown out hte vocal tracks and those don't even sound clear. I don't know if it was the arena, the mixing, or the equipment. But I was very dissapointed with the sound. My ears were buzzin' and hurting a little bit, again, not in a good way. Not because I'm getting old, I'm 33. Unless I aged overnight in a week.

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Funny!

Another poster actually recommends earplugs!

BlueAngel
10-26-2007, 12:50 PM
Most people aren't normally JEALOUS of someone who has the same physical trait that they do!

HOW PATHETIC!

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One poster comments and this about sums it up and I've said the same:

If she hasn't had a successful solo career or huge following in over 30 years, it's not suddenly going to change.

It's tough for any woman in her fifties to build an audience, even one who's married to Bruce Springsteen.

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It's not tough.

It's nearly impossible.

You can't build an audience no matter who you are married to if your talent is mediocre.

People go to clubs without admission to see amateur performances not to venues.

BlueAngel
10-26-2007, 01:25 PM
Obviously, Scialfa doesn't have CONTROL over her vocals.

On another note, a poster comments that she wanted not to like Patti's songs because she HAS SPRINGSTEEN.

Oh, my!

Really?

That's quite sad.

You must not have anyone in your life that you love and who loves you back except for the fact that you think Springsteen loves you and you have an unhealthy LOVE for him.

An infatuation.

Anyway, doesn't sound like Scialfa has Springsteen if you read many of his songs about infidelity.

Same could be said vice versa.

BlueAngel
10-26-2007, 05:41 PM
Why does Springsteen blow "snot rockets" from his nose as the fanatics refer to it throughout his performance?

Perhaps the side effects of cocaine use.

Just sayin.'

This thread is quite gross, but interesting, to say the least.

He drinks from a sponge in a bucket of water that he also uses to wet himself, clean his harmonica with and then showers the fans in the pit with the water from the sponge.

NICE!!

http://www.backstreets.com/btx/viewtopic.php?t=51767&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

BlueAngel
10-26-2007, 05:58 PM
I love it when fanatics say things like "people don't understand Bruce's voice."

HUH??

What's to understand about a voice?

His voice is mediocre and so, too, is Scialfa's.

The reason the BAND drowns him out!

The reason you can't hear Scialfa's back-up vocals.

The reason for STUDIO MAGIC.

These are FACTS.

Or, when a fanatic says something like, "if you don't like their duet of a "Town Called Heartbreak," at least sit through it and watch their interaction.

Why?

Who cares about the interaction between Scialfa and Springsteen while performing a duet?

Are they teenagers who are madly in love and professing it on stage with a beautiful duet and all the teeny boppers are watching the wonderful chemistry between the two and how lovestruck they are?

The fact that Springsteen sings about his infidelities in many songs and Scialfa and him perform this duet together, and the fact that Scialfa appears to be accepting of anything, is quite distasteful, to say the least.

Talk about CLASS!!

BlueAngel
10-26-2007, 06:04 PM
Now the fans have been instructed to stop whining about last night's performance in Oakland because Springsteen, Scialfa, Nils and the others flew out there yesterday and didn't get into the bay area until 5 P.M. and, even with jet lag, they put on a hell of a show!

The show started at 8:30 P.M.

I wonder if they ever thought they should fly out the day before.

So, please excuse their poor performance and stop whining.

They were jet lagged.

You should feel blessed that you were in the same building with them because, after all, they are an integral part of your life.

BlueAngel
10-26-2007, 06:13 PM
Does Landau write Springsteen's lyrics with him?

BlueAngel
10-26-2007, 08:09 PM
A poster comments over at BTX about the show at the Oracle last night:

After he apparently called an audible from the hand writtten Set List and played Heartbreak Bruce grabbed her like you'd grab your little brother with your elbow around their neck and then he rubbed her forhead with his knuckles...kinda cute I'd say.

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He called an audible. That means that a "Town Called Heartbreak" wasn't on the set list.

HE CALLED AN AUDIBLE!!

Switched it up.

What a band leader!

He grabbed Scialfa like you would grab your little brother with his elbow around her neck and then he rubbed her forehead with his knuckles.

HUH??

WOW!

How romantic!

I treat my DOG better than that.

BlueAngel
10-26-2007, 08:52 PM
Why does a poster at BTX, BobbyJean, feel it necessary to put together a home movie that tries to convey the POLITICAL message Springsteen is attempting to deliver?

She/he says that her clip encompasses the past 50 plus years.

WOW!

Way before Springsteen!

Jeez!

He needs his fans to speak for him.

Obviously, the majority of them don't understand his psychobabble.

Incredible.

BobbyJean says, the more things change...

He/she doesn't finish the sentence.

I wonder why.

BlueAngel
10-26-2007, 09:20 PM
Oh, yes. Scialfa is going to take her "Play it as it Lays" tour to Europe because she promised ONE fan she would try.

BlueAngel
10-26-2007, 09:29 PM
Springsteen's romantic lines:

Prove it all night
Ramrod
You ain't a beauty but you're alright
Tramps like us
Watch the bones in your back
pull your pants down
little girl is your Daddy home
I'll drive all night to buy you some shoes

Etc., etc., etc.

BlueAngel
10-26-2007, 11:23 PM
Oh, LORD, tour premiere. Springsteen and the ESB just played Two Hearts.

Unbelievable.

A TOUR PREMIRE.

BlueAngel
10-26-2007, 11:29 PM
Oh, yes, genius Springsteen, "you've got to learn to live with what you can't rise above."

What is it that he couldn't rise above?

BlueAngel
10-26-2007, 11:38 PM
Oh, LORD, Springsteen just played "Racin' in the Streets" and the fanatics feel another wildard comin' on.

Lord have Mercy on their souls they know not of what they speak.

Two Hearts, Working on the Highway and Racing in the Streets are TOUR PREMIERS.

I'm sure everyone knows the words to Racing in the Streets, Two Hearts and Working on the Highway.

Eh?

BlueAngel
10-26-2007, 11:51 PM
Sanctified4One heard that Springsteen was looking into buying a home in Colorado.

She wants to know if anyone can confirm that.

Can you confirm that?

I mean, seriously, if Springsteen is looking to buy a home in Colorado, I really need to have this confirmed.

BlueAngel
10-27-2007, 03:10 PM
Britney's live performances are horrendous; however, her new CD is said to be sleek, state of the art dance pop!

Amazing what they can do in the studio.

BlueAngel
10-27-2007, 04:32 PM
KID ROCK brawls with Tommy Lee at the MTV awards and was recently arrested for a fight with a customer at a Waffle House.

http://music.yahoo.com/read/news/12176661

BlueAngel
10-27-2007, 04:50 PM
Apparently, Springsteen's song, Bobby Jean, is about Little Steven (Miami Steve) when he left the band.

Read on!

http://www.backstreets.com/btx/viewtopic.php?t=52315

Bobby Jean
Bruce Springsteen

Well I came by your house the other day, your mother said you went away
She said there was nothing that I could have done
There was nothing nobody could say
Me and you we've known each other ever since we were sixteen
I wished I would have known I wished I could have called you
Just to say goodbye Bobby Jean

Now you hung with me when all the others turned away turned up their nose
We liked the same music we liked the same bands we liked the same clothes
We told each other that we were the wildest, the wildest things we'd ever seen
Now I wished you would have told me I wished I could have talked to you
Just to say goodbye Bobby Jean

Now we went walking in the rain talking about the pain from the world we hid
Now there ain't nobody nowhere nohow gonna ever understand me the way you did
Maybe you'll be out there on that road somewhere
In some bus or train traveling along
In some motel room there'll be a radio playing
And you'll hear me sing this song
Well if you do you'll know I'm thinking of you and all the miles in between
And I'm just calling one last time not to change your mind
but just to say i miss you baby, good luck good bye bobby jean

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HOW VERY STRANGE!

The fanatics believe this songs is about Little Steven.

What?

He left the band when he was an adult and afterwards Springsteen went by his house where he lived with his mother and she told him that Little Steven went away?

Sounds like he disappeared into thin air.

Springsteen hoped he would hear this song wherever he was so he would know that he was thinking about him.

Like I said, believe none of what he says.

BlueAngel
10-27-2007, 04:55 PM
Apparently, there is a picture of Springsteen and Scialfa in the upcoming People Magazine.

Fanatics are desperately in need of seeing this picture NOW. They can't wait until the issue is for sale.

A poster comments with some very sound advice:

Step 1: Go to the supermarket.

Step 2: Buy something.

Step 3: Get in the checkout line.

Step 4: Look to the left. You'll see the People magazine.

Step 5: Pick it up.

Step 6: Flip through it.

Step 7: Find the picture of Bruce and Patti.

Step 8: Look at the damn picture.

Step 9: Put the magazine down. Don't be one of those douchebags who actually buys People magazine.

Step 10: Go home, safe in the knowledge that you saw this all important picture and that for now... you're life is complete.

Hope this helps.

BlueAngel
10-27-2007, 10:34 PM
Sorry, Bruce The Boss, poster at BTX but Springsteen didn't write any songs in the 80's against the VietNam War and, if he did, it would have been a little too late since the war ended in 1975.

As far as "gag orders" against ESB members concerning speaking publicly about Springsteen, I would surmise that is accurate.

I believe the "false memory" that speaks to this is that certain of my family members, friends, etc., accepted money as a pay-off for their silence as to my allegations and were placed under a gag order.

I, however, did not accept a pay-off and/or sign a gag order.

This memory could be true, as well as certain of the band members having signed gag orders.

BlueAngel
10-28-2007, 03:06 PM
If you take a look at SoulBoogieAlex's signature line over at BTX it contains the word BELIEVE.

The letters are in different colors except for the L the I and the E which are all the same color.

Which, of course, spells:

LIE and is HIGHLIGHTED.

BlueAngel
10-28-2007, 03:10 PM
Why on earth would they even want to discuss this at BTX or the fact that they're certain Springsteen keeps Scialfa satisfied.

http://www.backstreets.com/btx/viewtopic.php?t=52473&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&sid=5dfa48c2278e36421e767ad1c2620902

IT TAKES ALL KINDS!

BlueAngel
10-28-2007, 03:11 PM
A poster wonders why Springsteen hasn't gone to Iraq.

MovieLady insists there's lots of red tape that would keep him from this trip.

HUH??

Kid Rock went. Comedians have made the trip.

Certainly, Springsteen, being one of THEM, wouldn't have a problem with red tape.

BlueAngel
10-28-2007, 03:24 PM
There's a line in one of the songs on MAGIC:

"Like a thief on a Sunday morning."

A poster believes this is referring to Watergate.

And, if it were?

I think that's OLD NEWS.

Grasping at straws.

I suppose if he used the word Watergate, it might mean that he's referring to Watergate.

Who knows?

If he used the word Iraq in a song, Springsteen might say the song is about a mountain.

2Hearts says it's too bad they can't Google Springsteen's brain to find out the meaning of certain lines in his song, or his songs, period.

If they could, she says, that would take the fun out of trying to decipher it.

Oh, yes. Such fun.

Encrypted and coded.

The detectives are on the case.

They LOVE the mystery!

Like dogs chasing their own tails.

Another line from the song that makes perfect sense in Springsteen's world:

''Your cinnamon sky's gone candy-apple green''?

BlueAngel
10-28-2007, 03:34 PM
As far as a lump sum payment to the ESB band members that required sigining GAG orders, some posters wonder why you would say anyhing about your friend (Springsteen) or BOSS that was negative.

Sometimes, whether someone is your friend or BOSS, without a GAG order, or stipulation, you just might let your tongue fly.

You might not be so ACCEPTING as his fanatics and everyone around him seems to be.

A poster wonders why a band member might want to say something about Springsteen that would tarnish his image!!

His image has already been tarnished of his own doing.

I'm sure there is more to come!

BlueAngel
10-28-2007, 03:35 PM
Anyone know why Springsteen didn't want the documentary shown:

http://www.backstreets.com/btx/viewtopic.php?t=52213

BlueAngel
10-28-2007, 03:44 PM
A review.

Too many musicians with the ESB.

I would have to agree.

Five guitar players!

The writer states that Springsteen is the best guitar player when playing alongside anyone else.

Well, yes.

Scialfa, Soozie, Nils, Steve!

Not sure I agree with that, but, considering he only plays with the ESB, it could be true inasmuch as I don't believe the other guitarists have ever been highlighted enough (Nils, Steve) to make an informed decision.

Perhaps, because they're mediocre like Springsteen or even better.

Now, CLAPTON, is a great guitarist.

http://kavasradiosoup.blogspot.com/2007/10/bruce-springsteen-and-e-street-band-bad.html

BlueAngel
10-28-2007, 03:49 PM
A poster over at BTX Political World is wondering as to PADDY's occupation.

It's hush, hush.

Secret, secret.

But, he has connections to military, etc., is what he's insinuated.

I think his occupation is to post at the BTX Political World 24/7 because that is where you'll find him 24/7.

Paddy responds that he's on the right track.

On the right track???

If posting on a musician's website, a sexually deviant one at that, 24/7 puts you on the right track, I'd say you just might be on the wrong side of the track.

BlueAngel
10-28-2007, 03:56 PM
What's the deal with the mind control containment phrase:

"No where to run and no where to hide?"

and

The picture of the cat and the bundle of money?

Just a few of MANY!

I don't need to elaborate.

I'm know your eyes see the same as I do.

I don't need to name names, but I'm sure you are aware of the others, as well.

BlueAngel
10-28-2007, 04:33 PM
Henry Makow's latest article:

http://www.henrymakow.com/the_root_problem_illuminati_or.html

The Root Problem: Illuminati or Jews?
By Henry Makow Ph.D.
October 28, 2007

By Henry Makow Ph.D.

(This revisits an important article I posted in August 2006.)

"Henry, The only solution to all these problems is to kill all the Jews."

I got this email last week from George in response to my article about bionic women.

"Kill all the Jews and overnight these things will change. I know you'll never make that suggestion, but it's the only solution. The Protocols have come to fruition. Just tell the people to kill the Jews and our problems will be solved. You Henry could become a Marrano and lie like a bastard."

As economc and political conditions worsen, resentment against jews will grow.

"There is coming a time soon in which we shall have to fight Jews because they are Jews and because we are not," J.B. Campbell proclaimed in "Jewish Rule" posted on Rense.com. " They will leave us with no other choice, just as they left the Russians and the Palestinians and the Hungarians and now the Lebanese with no other choice but fight or die a nasty death after captivity and thirst and starvation and torture."

John Kaminski writes, " The Illuminati is wholly Jewish, started by a Jew turned Catholic, operated by the Jews who control the money. Now used, as a convenient myth by
Jewish writers to say the problem is not really Jewish."

Kaminski is referring to me. He has called me a "Zionist mole." The satanic Jewish cult, the Sabbateans, might be at the the heart of the problem but it has gone way beyond them to embrace the occult world in general.

The epithet "Illuminati mole" could be hurled back. People like Kaminski unwittingly serve the Illuminati agenda by making ordinary Jews the scapegoat. They divert attention from the real source of the problem which is Satanic.

As we shall see, the Illuminati is not "wholly Jewish" by a long shot. You could kill every Jew and the problem would remain. (Of course this does not absolve of guilt Illuminati of Jewish origin and their many Jewish dupes/agents i.e. Zionists, Communists, Feminists, Liberals, Socialists, Neo Cohns etc. Nor does it absolve those Jews who refuse to disassociate from organized Jewry.)

I refer Kaminski and his ilk to Fritz Springmeier, an unsung hero of humanity, now an American political prisoner, who has debriefed dozens of Illuminati defectors. The pioneer authority on the Illuminati, he says the problem is a lot bigger than "the Jews". It is anti-religious (as in satanic) not racial.

"To call the conspiracy Jewish is misleading. The father of it all is Satan. It is Satanic and it will use anyone it can." ("Bloodlines of the Illuminati", p.126)

THE PROBLEM WE FACE

It's the nightmare that's still there after we wake up. It reads like a horror movie script:

The most trusted and richest leaders of society have secretly organized into a satanic cult and are conspiring to turn humanity into their mind-controlled slaves. The process is designed to appear natural: "making the world a better place." All wars, including the Cold War and War on Terror are hoaxes designed to consolidate their power.

Humanity has a terminal disease and is in a collective state of denial. Every facet of Western society, not just organized Jewry, has been subverted. This includes business, education, military, mass media, government and all religions. The elite, Jews and non-Jews alike, are either dupes or agents. That is a condition for advancement.

The Illuminati control current events and determine human history according to their "Plan.". What we call "secular humanism" is nothing but a facade for Luciferianism. "Modernism" is the substitution of their occult interests disguised as "reason" for Moral Order and Objective Truth i.e. God. Our modern world is a fraud dedicated to enthroning Satan worshipers as rulers of this planet.

The word "Illuminati" sounds incredible but unfortunately it's very real. It's plans and correspondence were seized in 1784. Defectors testified at public hearings.

The relationship of Zionists to the Illuminati mirrors that of Freemasonry, which the Illuminati also control. Most are pawns and dupes. "The Lodge shall be our nursery garden," Illuminati founder Adam Weishaupt wrote."All those who are not suited to the work shall remain in the Masonic Lodge and advance in that without knowing anything of the further system." (Webster, "Secret Societies," p.210)

FRITZ SPRINGMEIER

Humanity owes a debt of gratitude to Fritz Springmeier for exposing the Illuminati and its methods in a half dozen major works.

His definitive work is "Be Wise as Serpents" (1991) and "Bloodlines of the Illuminati" (1999). At the back he lists hundreds of names of members of the Illuminati organizations like the Pilgrim Society, Bohemia Grove and the Skull and Bones and related fraternities. The names reflect the American establishment yesterday and today. They are not exclusively Jewish.

I'll just list a few: Astor;Ball, Bennett; Bundy; Grace; Hammer; Kennedy; Brady; Acheson; Rockefeller; Dulles; Bedell Smith; Carnegie; Cowles; Dupont; Harriman; Schiff; Roosa; Brezinski; Kissinger; Forbes; Donovan; Javits; Mellon; Turner; Coffin; Heinz; MacLeish; Stanley; Pinchot; Whitney; Walker; Steadman; Taft...etc.

A similar membership analysis could be made of other Illuminati fronts such as the Bilderbergs, the Council on Foreign Relations , the Trilateral Commission and the Club of Rome.

Yes it is probable that Jewish Sabbatean heretics like the Rothschilds are the mainspring behind the Illuminati but there is no shortage of non-Jews who want a piece of the Satanic action.

Did you know Doonesbury's Gary Trudeau is Skull and Bones? Ned Lamont who tried to upset Joe Lieberman is the great grandson of Thomas Lamont, the Chairman of J.P Morgan, who financed the American Communists. These guys pretend to oppose each other. We get to choose which satanist we want.

It's frustrating that people like Kaminski can only see the Jews and not the gentiles. Then they blame all Jews regardless of their guilt and let all the guilty goyim off the hook. They seem to need a simple black-and-white solution to the world's problems. They can't face the betrayal of their own ethnic national and religious leaders. Easier to despise ordinary Jews than confront the powerful rich. I invite Kaminski et al to read Fritz Springmeier and focus on the guilty, whether Jew or not.

MOVERS AND SHAKERS

For exposing the Illuminati, Fritz Springmeier was framed for a 1997 bank robbery and sentenced to nine years in jail in 2003. They tried to make Springmeier out to be a Ted Kaczynski Unabomber. Read excerpts from this interview with Springmeier to see how intelligent he is and how evil they are. (The complete interview is available here.)

Who are the Illuminati?

"The Illuminati are the movers and shakers of the world. They are an elite group of bloodlines - I call these tribes or families - there are 13 major bloodlines. They are what are called "generational satanists". That means that they have practiced their secret witchcraft for many centuries and they have passed their religion down from one generation to the next. They lead double lives. They have one life that the world sees and then they have a hidden life that the world doesn't see. There have been very few people that have been able to break through the secrecy."

"The top 13 bloodlines are the Astor, Bundy, Collins, Dupont, Freeman, Kennedy, Li, Onassis, Rockefellers, Rothschild, Reynolds, Krupp, Russell ... then there is a 13th bloodline which is the Merovingian bloodline. I just simple call it the 13th and then there is the Van Duyn Illuminati bloodline. The 13th bloodline, the Merovingian, is extremely important. It includes the royal families of Europe."

What is their goal?

"Ultimately [their goal is] to bring in what people have termed the New World Order with a man who will hold the world's attention and carry the title 'The Antichrist.' That's the ultimate goal and I am not trying to wax religious on people but that's just the simple fact. When you get into deprogramming people you will see that a lot of the things they
have been programmed to do tie in with a very sophisticated plan to unify the world under the reign of the Antichrist."

"[Princeton historian] James Billington (Fire in the Minds of Men) traces how all the revolutions were started by this occult elite. The term revolution came from the occult idea that we were going to revolve ourselves back to the Golden Age. There is this great quest for the Golden Age, this millenialism. That's what communism is about. If you look at the early founders of communism - they were trying to revolve us back through revolution to the Golden Age that had been lost. ...it's always for a socialistic, communistic type utopia, [a cross between] "1984" and "Animal Farm."

Why do they use trauma-based mind control on their own family members?

"It's really essential. If you are going to participate in the Illuminati secret life, being a programmed multiple [personality] is basic. There are a few in the Illuminati who aren't programmed multiples, but considering what one has to participate in. You've got a
number of standard rituals involved - St. Weinbald, St. Agnes, Grand Climax, Walpurgis, Beltane, all your solstices and equinoxes, Lamas, All Hallow's Eve, High Grand Climax -- all of these standard rituals. These rituals are very horrific. They involved human sacrifice. Sacrifices of babies on the High Grand Climax. On various Sabbats you've got a young
female or a male being sacrificed.

This is not something that the normal mind is going to be able to handle. The mind control and the creation of multiple personalities where you get a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde effect - is very crucial to this thing continuing from generation to generation. They will be trained in alchemy, in Indian sorcery, Druidism, Enochian magik, Gnosticism, Hermetic magik, cabbalism, Plato, Sufism - they will know all the different branches of occult systems."


What is the function of trauma?

"The Illuminati take a small child about two years old, and they begin traumatizing it with the worst traumas that are imaginable so that they can create these amnesia walls. They find these dissociated pieces of the mind that are just like ...floppy disks, often they put in their programming to the dissociated parts of the mind as to what they want that part to become... [Elsewhere he says mind control was behind Josef Mengele's experiments; that Mengele was Illuminati and continued his work in the US after the war.]

The Illuminati can take a particular child and manipulate things from behind the scenes and open all the right doors for this person, and they can get them the grants and the schooling and everything they need and adding impetus to this person's career is the mind control that is steering them in that direction too. The end product is you end up with somebody who is an engineer or a lawyer or a politician who is very highly qualified for what they are doing.

A very conservative estimate - I shouldn't even say estimate because I have computed it from about seven different angles - a conservative figure is 2 million Americans have been programmed with trauma based total mind control."

The Ultimate Goal?

"The whole long-range goal of this, and when I say long-range, it's not going to take them long to get us there at the rate they are going - the end goal of all of this is to eventually create an entire planet of mind controlled slaves that can be controlled by one super computer. They are manipulating our thoughts and our attitudes, and steering us,
herding us (they consider us animals - the Illuminati consider themselves god, god men and us to be the animals) they are herding us in the direction they want to us to go."

CONCLUSION

Let's not fall into the Illuminati's divide-and-conquer trap. Springmeier says this is "a war against evil not race." He says that, as a virtuoso with an old violin, a "Master's hand can turn anyone into a beautiful thing." He says that many members of Illuminati families have
found Christ and broken free. Similarly many Illuminati dupes, whether Jewish or not, can be reached by a message of Truth and Love. We can all be deprogrammed.

--------------

See also "Illuminati Defector Details Pervasive Conspiracy "

Also, my "Why Do the Illuminati Hate Jews?"

redrat11
10-28-2007, 04:43 PM
BlueAngel wrote:
Henry Makow's latest article:

http://www.henrymakow.com/the_root_problem_illuminati_or.html

The Root Problem: Illuminati or Jews?
By Henry Makow Ph.D.
October 28, 2007

By Henry Makow Ph.D.

(This revisits an important article I posted in August 2006.)

"Henry, The only solution to all these problems is to kill all the Jews."

I got this email last week from George in response to my article about bionic women.

"Kill all the Jews and overnight these things will change. I know you'll never make that suggestion, but it's the only solution. The Protocols have come to fruition. Just tell the people to kill the Jews and our problems will be solved. You Henry could become a Marrano and lie like a bastard."

As economc and political conditions worsen, resentment against jews will grow.

"There is coming a time soon in which we shall have to fight Jews because they are Jews and because we are not," J.B. Campbell proclaimed in "Jewish Rule" posted on Rense.com. " They will leave us with no other choice, just as they left the Russians and the Palestinians and the Hungarians and now the Lebanese with no other choice but fight or die a nasty death after captivity and thirst and starvation and torture."

John Kaminski writes, " The Illuminati is wholly Jewish, started by a Jew turned Catholic, operated by the Jews who control the money. Now used, as a convenient myth by
Jewish writers to say the problem is not really Jewish."

Kaminski is referring to me. He has called me a "Zionist mole." The satanic Jewish cult, the Sabbateans, might be at the the heart of the problem but it has gone way beyond them to embrace the occult world in general.

The epithet "Illuminati mole" could be hurled back. People like Kaminski unwittingly serve the Illuminati agenda by making ordinary Jews the scapegoat. They divert attention from the real source of the problem which is Satanic.

As we shall see, the Illuminati is not "wholly Jewish" by a long shot. You could kill every Jew and the problem would remain. (Of course this does not absolve of guilt Illuminati of Jewish origin and their many Jewish dupes/agents i.e. Zionists, Communists, Feminists, Liberals, Socialists, Neo Cohns etc. Nor does it absolve those Jews who refuse to disassociate from organized Jewry.)

I refer Kaminski and his ilk to Fritz Springmeier, an unsung hero of humanity, now an American political prisoner, who has debriefed dozens of Illuminati defectors. The pioneer authority on the Illuminati, he says the problem is a lot bigger than "the Jews". It is anti-religious (as in satanic) not racial.

"To call the conspiracy Jewish is misleading. The father of it all is Satan. It is Satanic and it will use anyone it can." ("Bloodlines of the Illuminati", p.126)

THE PROBLEM WE FACE

It's the nightmare that's still there after we wake up. It reads like a horror movie script:

The most trusted and richest leaders of society have secretly organized into a satanic cult and are conspiring to turn humanity into their mind-controlled slaves. The process is designed to appear natural: "making the world a better place." All wars, including the Cold War and War on Terror are hoaxes designed to consolidate their power.

Humanity has a terminal disease and is in a collective state of denial. Every facet of Western society, not just organized Jewry, has been subverted. This includes business, education, military, mass media, government and all religions. The elite, Jews and non-Jews alike, are either dupes or agents. That is a condition for advancement.

The Illuminati control current events and determine human history according to their "Plan.". What we call "secular humanism" is nothing but a facade for Luciferianism. "Modernism" is the substitution of their occult interests disguised as "reason" for Moral Order and Objective Truth i.e. God. Our modern world is a fraud dedicated to enthroning Satan worshipers as rulers of this planet.

The word "Illuminati" sounds incredible but unfortunately it's very real. It's plans and correspondence were seized in 1784. Defectors testified at public hearings.

The relationship of Zionists to the Illuminati mirrors that of Freemasonry, which the Illuminati also control. Most are pawns and dupes. "The Lodge shall be our nursery garden," Illuminati founder Adam Weishaupt wrote."All those who are not suited to the work shall remain in the Masonic Lodge and advance in that without knowing anything of the further system." (Webster, "Secret Societies," p.210)

FRITZ SPRINGMEIER

Humanity owes a debt of gratitude to Fritz Springmeier for exposing the Illuminati and its methods in a half dozen major works.

His definitive work is "Be Wise as Serpents" (1991) and "Bloodlines of the Illuminati" (1999). At the back he lists hundreds of names of members of the Illuminati organizations like the Pilgrim Society, Bohemia Grove and the Skull and Bones and related fraternities. The names reflect the American establishment yesterday and today. They are not exclusively Jewish.

I'll just list a few: Astor;Ball, Bennett; Bundy; Grace; Hammer; Kennedy; Brady; Acheson; Rockefeller; Dulles; Bedell Smith; Carnegie; Cowles; Dupont; Harriman; Schiff; Roosa; Brezinski; Kissinger; Forbes; Donovan; Javits; Mellon; Turner; Coffin; Heinz; MacLeish; Stanley; Pinchot; Whitney; Walker; Steadman; Taft...etc.

A similar membership analysis could be made of other Illuminati fronts such as the Bilderbergs, the Council on Foreign Relations , the Trilateral Commission and the Club of Rome.

Yes it is probable that Jewish Sabbatean heretics like the Rothschilds are the mainspring behind the Illuminati but there is no shortage of non-Jews who want a piece of the Satanic action.

Did you know Doonesbury's Gary Trudeau is Skull and Bones? Ned Lamont who tried to upset Joe Lieberman is the great grandson of Thomas Lamont, the Chairman of J.P Morgan, who financed the American Communists. These guys pretend to oppose each other. We get to choose which satanist we want.

It's frustrating that people like Kaminski can only see the Jews and not the gentiles. Then they blame all Jews regardless of their guilt and let all the guilty goyim off the hook. They seem to need a simple black-and-white solution to the world's problems. They can't face the betrayal of their own ethnic national and religious leaders. Easier to despise ordinary Jews than confront the powerful rich. I invite Kaminski et al to read Fritz Springmeier and focus on the guilty, whether Jew or not.

MOVERS AND SHAKERS

For exposing the Illuminati, Fritz Springmeier was framed for a 1997 bank robbery and sentenced to nine years in jail in 2003. They tried to make Springmeier out to be a Ted Kaczynski Unabomber. Read excerpts from this interview with Springmeier to see how intelligent he is and how evil they are. (The complete interview is available here.)

Who are the Illuminati?

"The Illuminati are the movers and shakers of the world. They are an elite group of bloodlines - I call these tribes or families - there are 13 major bloodlines. They are what are called "generational satanists". That means that they have practiced their secret witchcraft for many centuries and they have passed their religion down from one generation to the next. They lead double lives. They have one life that the world sees and then they have a hidden life that the world doesn't see. There have been very few people that have been able to break through the secrecy."

"The top 13 bloodlines are the Astor, Bundy, Collins, Dupont, Freeman, Kennedy, Li, Onassis, Rockefellers, Rothschild, Reynolds, Krupp, Russell ... then there is a 13th bloodline which is the Merovingian bloodline. I just simple call it the 13th and then there is the Van Duyn Illuminati bloodline. The 13th bloodline, the Merovingian, is extremely important. It includes the royal families of Europe."

What is their goal?

"Ultimately [their goal is] to bring in what people have termed the New World Order with a man who will hold the world's attention and carry the title 'The Antichrist.' That's the ultimate goal and I am not trying to wax religious on people but that's just the simple fact. When you get into deprogramming people you will see that a lot of the things they
have been programmed to do tie in with a very sophisticated plan to unify the world under the reign of the Antichrist."

"[Princeton historian] James Billington (Fire in the Minds of Men) traces how all the revolutions were started by this occult elite. The term revolution came from the occult idea that we were going to revolve ourselves back to the Golden Age. There is this great quest for the Golden Age, this millenialism. That's what communism is about. If you look at the early founders of communism - they were trying to revolve us back through revolution to the Golden Age that had been lost. ...it's always for a socialistic, communistic type utopia, [a cross between] "1984" and "Animal Farm."

Why do they use trauma-based mind control on their own family members?

"It's really essential. If you are going to participate in the Illuminati secret life, being a programmed multiple [personality] is basic. There are a few in the Illuminati who aren't programmed multiples, but considering what one has to participate in. You've got a
number of standard rituals involved - St. Weinbald, St. Agnes, Grand Climax, Walpurgis, Beltane, all your solstices and equinoxes, Lamas, All Hallow's Eve, High Grand Climax -- all of these standard rituals. These rituals are very horrific. They involved human sacrifice. Sacrifices of babies on the High Grand Climax. On various Sabbats you've got a young
female or a male being sacrificed.

This is not something that the normal mind is going to be able to handle. The mind control and the creation of multiple personalities where you get a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde effect - is very crucial to this thing continuing from generation to generation. They will be trained in alchemy, in Indian sorcery, Druidism, Enochian magik, Gnosticism, Hermetic magik, cabbalism, Plato, Sufism - they will know all the different branches of occult systems."


What is the function of trauma?

"The Illuminati take a small child about two years old, and they begin traumatizing it with the worst traumas that are imaginable so that they can create these amnesia walls. They find these dissociated pieces of the mind that are just like ...floppy disks, often they put in their programming to the dissociated parts of the mind as to what they want that part to become... [Elsewhere he says mind control was behind Josef Mengele's experiments; that Mengele was Illuminati and continued his work in the US after the war.]

The Illuminati can take a particular child and manipulate things from behind the scenes and open all the right doors for this person, and they can get them the grants and the schooling and everything they need and adding impetus to this person's career is the mind control that is steering them in that direction too. The end product is you end up with somebody who is an engineer or a lawyer or a politician who is very highly qualified for what they are doing.

A very conservative estimate - I shouldn't even say estimate because I have computed it from about seven different angles - a conservative figure is 2 million Americans have been programmed with trauma based total mind control."

The Ultimate Goal?

"The whole long-range goal of this, and when I say long-range, it's not going to take them long to get us there at the rate they are going - the end goal of all of this is to eventually create an entire planet of mind controlled slaves that can be controlled by one super computer. They are manipulating our thoughts and our attitudes, and steering us,
herding us (they consider us animals - the Illuminati consider themselves god, god men and us to be the animals) they are herding us in the direction they want to us to go."

CONCLUSION

Let's not fall into the Illuminati's divide-and-conquer trap. Springmeier says this is "a war against evil not race." He says that, as a virtuoso with an old violin, a "Master's hand can turn anyone into a beautiful thing." He says that many members of Illuminati families have
found Christ and broken free. Similarly many Illuminati dupes, whether Jewish or not, can be reached by a message of Truth and Love. We can all be deprogrammed.

--------------

See also "Illuminati Defector Details Pervasive Conspiracy "

Also, my "Why Do the Illuminati Hate Jews?"


Interesting, the Anti-Christ he says.




Spiritual Freedom


Since we are temporarily occupying the human bodies we have, I'm wondering if the physical nature of the world we inhabit will be destroyed, The Bible says that GOD made the Earth to stand forever, and (depending on your reading of scripture) that there will be peace on Earth for a thousand years, after Satan is binded and chained in Purgatory. During these 1000 years Satan will no longer have any authority over human matters, Humanity will re-create the original PLAN of GOD, which is to make the Earth a Paradise under Christ Kingdom.


Of course before all this can happen, there must first arrive the Anti-Christ to fulfill Biblical Prophecy, these end-times we are currently living in is extremely EVIL, such as the world has never seen before. After or during Armageddon, the Bible says Jesus will come with full authority to Cleanse the Evil off the Earth, and then it will be his faithful followers who are put to the task to rebuild the Paradise lost. also during this 1000 years of Peace, the Dead will awaken from there "places" and be reunited with there loved ones, As death and suffering will be a thing of the past, Christ Kingdom Come!

redrat11
10-28-2007, 05:03 PM
BlueAngel wrote:
What's the deal with the mind control containment phrase:

"No where to run and no where to hide?"

and

The picture of the cat and the bundle of money?

Just a few of MANY!

I don't need to elaborate.

I'm know your eyes see the same as I do.

I don't need to name names, but I'm sure you are aware of the others, as well.


Blue Angel, calm down, don't let your mind make things up. I know what I'm doing when I post stuff, sometimes My "Artistry" can be confusing, you do realize that? you have heard of Sarcasm, Artistry, and general BOREDOM weaved into one?


Relax, all of you before you end up in a real nut-house, I am accepting donations you know. I'm short for funds.



Note: What, are you afraid of cat pictures?

BlueAngel
10-28-2007, 05:06 PM
Dang.

I missed a typo!

Oh, well...

redrat11
10-28-2007, 07:12 PM
Blue Angel.....


"Mind-Control" within the music Industry. :-? who is "Mind-Controlled?" Interesting..



Interesting indeed.

BlueAngel
10-28-2007, 07:33 PM
Springsteen does not sing the blues or play the blues with or without a bullet mic.

He inserts some kind of a STRANGE NEW JERSEY TWANG throughout Devils and Dust which is nothing more than completely annoying.

redrat11
10-28-2007, 07:52 PM
Blue Oceans....

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</center>



Blue Bayou


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f78bKXzALXo

BlueAngel
10-28-2007, 08:53 PM
Springsteen certainly promotes homosexuality, sexually deviant behavior, fires, cutting people in half, etc., etc., etc., throughout his lyrics.

It's difficult to imagine the number of people who wander this planet in a FOG due to their constant exposure to music/songs/lyrics, which can produce a hypnotic effect. Certain messages, repeated over and over again become buried in the subconscious and can be called up with triggers that can be contained anywhere, as long as the target can see them, hear them.

Music is piped in everywhere we go.

It is similar to the techniques used when "mind control" programming a victim in MKULTRA/Project Monarch.

Keep in mind that we begin listening to music at a VERY, VERY YOUNG AGE.

Particularly, children's shows, DISNEY related animations, etc.

So, basically our perception of reality is altered from the moment we are born.

Before the age of five is crucial.

It's difficult to imagine the number of people who walk this planet in VERY suggestible states of mind due to their constant exposure to music and repetition of lyrics.

HYPNOSIS = High state of suggestibility.

Very easily coerced.

Changes one's perception of reality.

Subconscious is tapped and the CORE is not totally in control.

It's difficult to imagine the number of people who were subjected to mind control trauma-based programs; who are walking this planet and may be programmed to act upon specific "triggers" contained within lyrics to songs, musical tones, print, media, television programs, etc.

In other words, it it not beyond the realm of possibility that when in a high state of suggestibility, altered state of consciousness, in a FOG, so to speak, that a mind control victim and even those who are not mind controlled, but just having been subjected to that which I've explained, act upon triggers without contemplation.

This, of course, is true, as well, when speaking about programming directed at children with respect to violence and sexual promiscuity via video games, the big screen, music videos/lyrics, and the perpetual decline of a moral society which is something they are exposed to on a daily basis.

Social engineering.

Changing the biological and physiological chemistry of a human through mind control programming.

BlueAngel
10-29-2007, 02:09 PM
Radio Nowhere closed out the World Series?

I'm sure everyone was singing along.

Very thematic, don't you think?

BlueAngel
10-29-2007, 09:02 PM
Springsteen's song, "Girls in their Summer Clothes" sounds similar to 'the kids are alright' by the Who.

Like I said, the man doesn't write his own music, so I guess the MOBSTERS have to work his lyrics that are written by GOD only knows WHO and work them around music they've written for other artists.

I think it's called RECYCLING.

BlueAngel
10-29-2007, 09:12 PM
Springsteen's song "Waitin' on a Sunny Day," chasin' the clouds away.

OMG!

It sounds like the Sesame Street theme song!

BlueAngel
10-29-2007, 09:14 PM
You're right that nobody writes like Springsteen and thank goodness for that.

One is enough!

BlueAngel
10-29-2007, 09:15 PM
What histrionics.

I suppose it's needed, because otherwise the lack of musical talent and vocals would be highlighted.

Springsteen loves getting cozy with Clarence.

http://www.backstreets.com/btx/viewtopic.php?t=53008

BlueAngel
10-29-2007, 09:55 PM
Human Touch
Bruce Springsteen

You and me we were the pretenders
We let it all slip away
In the end what you don't surrender
Well the world just strips away

Girl, ain't no kindness in the face of strangers
Ain't gonna find no miracles here
Well you can wait on your blesses my darlin'
But I got a deal for you right here

I ain't lookin' for praise or pity
I ain't comin' 'round searchin' for a crush
I just want someone to talk to
And a little of that Human Touch
Just a little of that Human Touch

Ain't no mercy on the streets of this town
Ain't no bread from heavenly skies
Ain't nobody drawin' wine from this blood
It's just you and me tonight

Tell me, in a world without pity
Do you think what I'm askin's too much
I just want something to hold on to
And a little of that Human Touch
Just a little of that Human Touch

Oh girl that feeling of safety you prize
Well it comes at a hard hard price
You can't shut off the risk and the pain
Without losin' the love that remains
We're all riders on this train

So you've been broken and you've been hurt
Show me somebody who ain't
Yeah, I know I ain't nobody's bargain
But, hell, a little touchup
and a little paint...

You might need somethin' to hold on to
When all the answers, they don't amount to much
Somebody that you could just to talk to
And a little of that Human Touch

Baby, in a world without pity
Do you think what I'm askin's too much
I just want to feel you in my arms
Share a little of that Human Touch (x2)
Feel a little of that Human Touch

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I WOULD ASSUME THIS SONG WAS WRITTEN FOR HIS LOVING WIFE, PATTI SCIALFA.

BlueAngel
10-29-2007, 10:46 PM
Scratch that!

BlueAngel
10-29-2007, 10:53 PM
From Springsteen's "Gypsy Biker"

Now I'm out countin' white lines
Countin' white lines and getting stoned
My Gypsy biker is coming home.

I wonder how long he's had a cocaine addiction?

Maybe it's time to visit Clapton's place.

Remember Clapton's song, COCAINE?

You don't really think Springsteen put on those marathon shows without a little help from his friends, now do you?

BlueAngel
10-29-2007, 11:02 PM
I don't know what's happening in your neck of the woods, but the CHOPPERS lately over here are so low and loud, it feels like my house is shaking and I'm under attack.

BlueAngel
10-29-2007, 11:36 PM
Oh, boy, girls and boys, according to a BTXer who is at the show in LA tonight and texting S41, Springsteen has that SILLY GRIN on his face and is really enjoying himself!

Is there something in that bucket of water he slops from that helps him out?

BlueAngel
10-30-2007, 08:00 AM
Why is Springsteen traversing the country reciting the following at this shows:

He says:

"truth is twisted into lies and lies are twisted into truth."

He should KNOW!

But anyway, this is such a PROFOUND statement.

Certainly, it needs no further explanation.

Eh?

What lies and what truth?

This is like a dangling participle.

BlueAngel
10-30-2007, 02:05 PM
Oh, right. Springsteen's MAGIC isn't getting radio airplay due to political retribution.

The man hasn't said a political word that would be cause for retribution.

What?

Because he mentioned wiretapping as if it is a secret.

Because he says that lies are twisted into truth and truth is twisted into lies?

Give me a break!

Maybe it's because the CD isn't VERY GOOD.

Did you ever ponder that as a reason?

Are you forgetting he was on the campaign trail with Kerry?

BlueAngel
10-30-2007, 02:10 PM
It's pretty sad how far into the gutter they have crawled.

Pamela Springsteen posts an awful picture of Scialfa in the Cafe thread.

She tells a poster that she heard there's a Halloween party and, referring to Scialfa's picture/clothes, she asks her/him what they think about her costume.

In The Promised Land a poster started a thread to another poster asking why they hate Scialfa so much.

I'm sure you understand the reason behind these two posts.

BlueAngel
10-30-2007, 11:10 PM
NICE!

From the Springsteen's song, MAGIC.

"I'll CUT YOU IN HALF while you're smiling from ear to ear."

Wonderful imagery.

A real pick me up song.

BlueAngel
10-31-2007, 12:22 AM
Julianne Philips was paid big bucks in the divorce settlement to NOT do a tell all.

It was a make or break kind of thing according to MovieLady at BTX.

What does that mean?

Make or break kind of thing.

Probably means, if she didn't accept they'd break her career.

So, what is it that she could have told about Springsteen that forced them to pay her off?

Another gag order!!

BlueAngel
10-31-2007, 01:48 PM
Heather Mills McCartney slams media By ROBERT BARR, Associated Press Writer
1 hour, 32 minutes ago
October 31, 2007

LONDON - Heather Mills McCartney broke her silence Wednesday about her divorce from Paul McCartney, saying in TV interviews that she fears for her life because of death threats and blaming tabloids for her problems.

Mills McCartney appeared on an ITV television morning show to complain about media coverage and to announce that she would seek European legislation to compel newspapers to apologize for untruthful stories. She also urged the public to stop buying sensationalist newspapers.

"We've had death threats, I've been close to suicide. I'm so upset about this," Mills McCartney said on the ITV show. "I've had worse press than a pedophile or a murderer and I've done nothing but charity for 20 years."

She also said she had taken precautions because of death threats.

"I have a box of evidence that's going to a certain person, should anything happen to me, so if you top me off it's still going to that person, and the truth will come out," she said.

"There is so much fear from a certain party of the truth coming out that lots of things have been put out and done, so the police came round and said, `You have had serious death threats from an underground movement.'"

She was also asked in a British Broadcasting Corp. interview later Wednesday whether tabloid newspapers were at fault.

"It's the tabloids and a certain party, but it is so extreme and so abusive ... I mean, I've been called monster, whore, gold digger, fantasist, liar."

When asked what she meant by "a certain party," Mills McCartney, who is still negotiating a financial settlement in her divorce case, declined to comment.

"I'm not allowed to talk about Paul and the court case and all that kind of stuff, because we are in court," she said.

Mills McCartney was also asked in the BBC interview if she feared for her life and she replied, "Yes I do, yes I do."

She was then asked, "And you are saying that Paul McCartney does not protect you and your child?"

"I'm afraid not," Mills McCartney said.

The couple have a 3-year-old daughter, Beatrice.

Paul McCartney has also complained about media coverage of the divorce, which may produce the biggest financial settlement ever in Britain.

"There's only one real answer to the massive press coverage — don't look," he said in an interview published in May. "So I don't read it."

------------------------------------------

Sounds familiar.

She has a box of evidence in safe-keeping in case she is killed.

What is it that McCartney is hiding?

Heather accused him of being abusive not too long ago.

Pictures, perhaps?

Other pertinent information?

I have one thing to say to Heather. Paul cannot protect you or your child.

The forces are above and beyond him.

They are going to buy your silence just as they bought Julianne's silence and, don't forget, with that will come a GAG order.

Death threats can lead one to this decision.

BlueAngel
10-31-2007, 01:53 PM
Remember UNHOLY BRUCE, who apparently, after all was said and done, wasn't Springsteen?

Anyway, on that thread he alluded to the fact that he tried to DO AWAY with Born to Run in 1992, but the fans wanted it back.

His verbiage was quite crass.

Anyway, a poster at BTX yesterday posted the exact same words.

Funny!

Guess Unholy Bruce knows Springsteen and so does this other poster.

BlueAngel
10-31-2007, 07:04 PM
Those who perished in the Twin Towers on September 11, 2001 aren't MISSING, as in Springsteen's song, "You're Missing."

They were KILLED!

So, this song, "You're Missing" doesn't quite speak to this event.

Again, maybe in an obscure way.

To think he would tug at the hearts of those who lost loved ones on that day all in the name of money is JUST SICK!

I'm sure they listen to this uplifting song over and over and over again.

NOT!

I certainly wouldn't.

When I was on Springsteen's official site and this song was posted in order to call up disinformation while I was in an altered state of consciousness, (there is a verse about everything being the same in the house) a poster asked if I remembered where WE WERE back in the day.

I said, no, not really. I have a vision, but not a clear memory and he asked if I thought the house was still there.

Is it still there, he asked.

I answered yes.

It's still there because you said it would always remain exactly as it was when I left.

It would always be there waiting for me to come home.

Your house is waiting, waiting for you to come home is a verse in the song.

Now. You go figure.

Double-bind meanings in this song.

BlueAngel
10-31-2007, 07:29 PM
Some posters at BTX think Clarence Clemens is in ill health because he's sitting down most of the time during the shows and the sound from his saxophone isn't very pleasant.

Seems Springsteen's attention is on Steve Van Zandt this tour when the Big Man use to be in the spotlight.

I guess getting caught up in a threesome or foursome if you include Scialfa can cause all kinds of problems within the band.

Maybe Clarence's heart is broken.

BlueAngel
10-31-2007, 07:32 PM
This is very appropriate as in a mind controlled marionette/puppet on a string.

http://cgi.ebay.com/BRUCE-SPRINGSTEEN-MARIONETTE_W0QQitemZ3152183873QQihZ017QQcategoryZ1 1741QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

BlueAngel
10-31-2007, 08:22 PM
What is the deal with the middle-aged fanatics in the pit at Springsteen's shows who, I suppose are in child-like altered states reaching up to touch Springsteen's guitar as he places it in front of them?

And, what's the deal with him placing it in front of them to touch, anyway?

Sorry, I don't get it, but then again, I live in reality and don't reside in a child-like state, and apparently many of his fans do.

They've never grown up.

Never, Never Land.

Just downright creepy!

Or, the deal when Springsteen does a solo tour and allows for a stage rush.

Guess he's in an altered child-like state, too.

There are just some things an adult man with children shouldn't do.

Some things are just plain embarrassing from an outsider looking in and an INSIDER looking OUT.

But, then again, Springsteen probably lives in a child-like state most of the time in order for him to act and behave in this way.

He has no sense of morality so embarrassment is not an issue for him.

When you're born into the cult, live within the cult all of your life, emotionally having been deprived at a very young age, you crave attention and love, naturally and you're not going to get it from those who are your abusers.

If you're creative and placed in the music industry; connect with the audience; you feed from their love and attention and they feed from your love and attention.

That which you never received as a child.

Now, you've got more than enough.

Unhealthy, but it will suffice.

You place your audience under your spell and, having no power as a child over your abusers, now you have power over your audience.

Moving up the ladder and this makes for a very lucrative cash cow.

Springsteen certainly displays this lack of attention from childhood into his adult life.

You can't mature as you naturally would if given the proper nourishment, love and attention from emotionally, psychologically stable parents and not incarcerated in a trauma-based mind control satanic cult where deprivations leave you dependent on your abusers, emotionally, physically and mentally. Thus, suppresing your growth.

Your life depends on them.

You do as you're told.

Otherwise, they'll snuff you out.

They put Brittney through the wringer.

I sense she'll be getting back in line with the program and they'll attempt to resurrect her career.

BlueAngel
10-31-2007, 10:03 PM
Oh, my. How generous.

According to a poster at BTX, Springsteen has QUIETLY given 4 tickets to the Rainbow Kitchen in Pittsburgh. They are auctioning these tickets to the highest bidder. Go to RainbowKitchen.org for details.

Huh?

He's given them 4 tickets.

WOW!

That really drained his bank account.

Quietly he gave them, but then it's announced on BTX.

Why quietly?

Is it a big deal, or something?

BlueAngel
10-31-2007, 10:11 PM
Magic is Number 12 this week.

Down 11 spots from last week's Number one position.

It was released October 2nd.

Shadow
11-01-2007, 12:34 AM
Prince Rogers Nelson was born in Minneapolis, Minnesota at Mount Sinai Hospital on Saturday June 7, 1958 to John L. Nelson and Mattie Shaw. John was a pianist and songwriter. Mattie was a singer. He is named after the Prince Rogers Trio, his father's jazz band. As a boy, he was called Skipper. There are a number of myths regarding Prince's ethnicity, some spread by Prince himself. In fact, according to an April 28, 1983 Rolling Stone article, Prince's father is African-American and his mother is herself multiracial, with Egyptian, African-American and Italian-American ancestry. After the birth of his sister Tyka, in 1960, Prince's parents gradually drifted apart. After they formally separated, he had a troubled relationship with his stepfather, causing him to run away from home. He lived briefly with his father, who bought him his first guitar. Later, Prince moved in with a neighborhood family, the Andersons, and became friends with their son, Andre Anderson (later called André Cymone).

BlueAngel
11-01-2007, 09:32 AM
Yesterday, I was in an altered state of consciousness. Became somewhat weepy, very tired. Couldn't figure out how or why, but I have.

I was watching the setlist thread at BTX the other night. The show was in LA so it was late/early morning.

Many pages of reading. Becomming fixated on that and perhaps, some triggers thrown in.

Such as constant references to going to sleep; one poster said she was going to kill herself.

I was in the store yesterday and heard the song HUMAN TOUCH, that also somewhat altered me.

I've been wondering why the song, "Radio Nowhere" is so bothersome.

As I've stated, call and response.

Is anybody alive out there?

The answer for me would be NO.

Couldn't figure out this line in the song, but now I have.

LAST LONE AMERICAN NIGHT.

Why?

I assume if you're going to commit suicide it would be your LAST LONE AMERICAN NIGHT.

Verse from Devils and Dust:

Got my finger on the "trigger," don't know who to trust.

NICE!

BlueAngel
11-01-2007, 10:51 AM
I’m suffering from an acute case of Brucelash. Springsteen and the "Yeesh They’re Looking Pretty Old Band" (sorry, I mean “the E Street Band”) are seemingly everywhere lately, in support of their recently released and much ballyhooed album, Magic. In the last couple weeks, Bruce and the band have appeared on the Matt Lauer Snarky Time Happy Hour (also known as the Today Show), and Springsteen also appeared on 60 Minutes in a carefully crafted interview that reinforced the familiar Springsteen public persona (portrayal of said musician as an approachable and humorous man-of-the-people despite millionaire status? Check. Musings on what it means to be an American? Check. References to working class background and childhood in New Jersey? Check).

The critical response to the album has been extremely positive. On this very website, several contributors have sung their praises for the album on a few occasions, though I suspect that they might be/could be/maybe could be/just a little bit possibly are somewhat predisposed to like the album regardless of its actual content. Even the usually difficult to please Pitchfork gave the album a positive review, and that website usually saves its most enthusiastic praise for the following: anything Radiohead does, any band that features a Japanese woman sputtering out sentence fragments over music that sounds like a 1980s sitcom theme song, or any band whose name is either a declarative command or could be mistaken for a line of poetry from a female college student. As I checked out the album at a local retail store, a store employee approached me, and in breathless, hushed tones, told me the album was one of the greatest things he’d ever heard. His praise was so excessive I felt like I was holding a sacred relic upon which I should not even look, lest its sacred glow permanently blind my eyes.

Yet I still cannot bring myself to seal the deal and buy the album. I think I know why.

First, all this effusive praise is vaguely familiar: similar plaudits were lauded upon Bruce and the boys when The Rising was released a few years ago. Based on these reviews, I purchased the album and was supremely underwhelmed. Listening to it again recently, what surprised me most is how many of the songs sound dated; they suffer from a production approach that somehow seems both sterile and over-saturated at the same time. Looking back on the album now, I’m convinced the positive response for the album can be attributed to both an initial enthusiastic response to Springsteen and the band releasing an album together after many years away from each other, and, on a more serious note, because the album was seen as one of the earliest artistic works that addressed (however implicitly) the events and after-effects of 9/11.

The second issue that’s preventing me from buying the album and joining the angel band in song is the Santana factor. Let me explain. In 1999, Santana released Supernatural, which was touted as his best album since the Paleolithic era. The album caught on like wildfire. It sold 9,999,999,999,999 copies. It was required listening in grade schools across the country. It won countless awards and was anointed as the most important work of artistry since The Great Gatsby. It landed the musician a soft drink endorsement. It revealed that “the dude from matchbox 20” had an actual name. Everyone was enthralled with Santana, the super-cool aura he exuded, and especially, his truly remarkable porn-stache.

Of course, the mania around Magic has reached nowhere near the level of hysteria for Supernatural. The marketing push given to Springsteen’s album doesn’t come close to the push that Supernatural received (you couldn’t breathe air or fear Y2K in 1999 without seeing Santana on the television or hearing him on the radio). Still, I can’t help but think that some of the touchy-feely humping being thrust upon this album is at least partially a result of a careful marketing plan (select interviews, positive press, and a full-scale arenas-only world tour), and partially the result of many fans’ desire to see Springsteen and the E Street Band back together again, reliving their (here it comes!) glory days.

The final factor that’s currently preventing me from throwing down some baksheesh for this album is the simple fact that I can count the number of Brendan O’Brien-produced albums that I like on approximately, oh, three fingers.

Finger 1: Devils. Finger 2: and. Finger 3: Dust. I will readily admit there are many albums produced by O’Brien that I’ve never heard; I’m sure I’ll get around to checking out Dynamite Monster Boogie Concert by Raging Slab and Waste of Skin by Spike 1000 one of these days. However, of the albums I’ve heard, I’ve always found them overproduced and overpolished. O’Brien’s albums remind me of someone who smiles all the time; sure, it’s reassuring and non-threatening, but after a while, it’s just obnoxious and annoying. Then again, maybe I’m turning into a cranky music snob and cannot see the merits of Drops of Jupiter by Train or Significant Other by Limp Bizkit.

I want to buy Magic, give it a full listen, and say that it’s among Springsteen and the band’s best, on par with Born To Run and Darkness On The Edge Of Town. At their best, Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band are a force capable of making grown men weep, making the sky rain, and making the bad girls go good. I’m sure at some point in the coming weeks my Brucelash will end and I’ll buy the album. But right now I’m having a difficult time convincing myself this thing is something more than, at best, an overrated album, or, at worst, a polished turd whose stink is being masked by critics’ and fans’ enthusiasm to see Springsteen and the band rocking again like it’s 1978.

Written by Eric Whelchel
Published October 11, 2007

BlueAngel
11-01-2007, 12:27 PM
The only reason to consider Petty, Mellencamp or Seger as a "poor man's Bruce" is because they didn't receive the MEDIA BLITZ of lies that he did.

BlueAngel
11-01-2007, 12:33 PM
Oh, yes, I'm sure the FBI keeps TABS on Springsteen.

He's such a threat.

I mean, mentioning wiretapping and all.

If anything, he's been protected by the powers that be because he's a part of the "satanic cult" and most probably has a file dating back decades, but it wouldn't be for any lame political statement he's made.

BlueAngel
11-01-2007, 01:10 PM
Scialfa's presence on stage with the E Street Band is of no concern to me whatsoever just as the presence of anyone else who plays with the ESB is of no concern to me whatsoever.

I just point out the lack of talent admist the lies that are written as to Scialfa's incredible song-writing ability, beautiful voice and her complimentary guitar playing with the ESB.

I would do the same with any other band.

I merely point out the obvious about Scialfa. She's there as a decoration.

If she's there as many say because she makes Springsteen happy, so be it.

Just as Paul wanted Linda there, so be it.

I just point out the obvious as to her lack of talent.

The media would never criticize Scialfa's talent, would they?

It just might upset the BOSS and, certainly, they wouldn't want to do that now, would they?

BlueAngel
11-01-2007, 07:13 PM
When I receive intrusive thoughts, I have to identify the trigger.

The song, "JOY TO THE WORLD" triggers DELTA commands.

Heard this today on television.

Inasmuch as I escaped the cult and did not follow in their perverse footsteps, there is also programming attached with intrusive thoughts which they hoped I would respond to at an older age.

This, so that these actions would have been of my "own free will," used against me and not due to being a prisoner/mind controlled slave in their world without CHOICE as a minor.

REMOVE YOUR WEAPONS FROM MY SON, MYSELF and FAMILY MEMBERS IMMEDIATELY.

BlueAngel
11-01-2007, 07:31 PM
Oh, my, a review of Scialfa's CD states that she has evolved into a songwriter of considerable depth and maturity.

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Wonderful.

Scialfa has evolved into a songwriter of considerable depth and maturity.

At 53, one would hope so.

Seems she's on the right track.

I'm certain she'll be able to attract a very wide audience at this point in her life.

BlueAngel
11-01-2007, 07:36 PM
Goodness!

A poster at BTX was watching one of her favorite television shows and they played one of Scialfa's songs.

This poster says that all the criticisms of her voice are irrelevant in her opinion and she truly believes that one day Scialfa will be recognized for her true gift: SONGWRITING.

----------------------------------------------

Excuse me, but are you delusional?

Why do you think Scialfa hasn't been recognized as a great singer/songwriter/musician?

Because she isn't.

That's usually the reason people don't make it in the industry.

Like I've said.

If you've got a decent voice, sex appeal, some musical ability and lyrical talent, and a stage presence they can work with you, baby and propel you into the big time like they did with her husband; together with media blitz/propaganda.

But, in Scialfa's case, she never had enough of any of the above for them to work with her, baby.

Three CD's throughout her so-called music career because she's married to Springsteen.

She gets to fulfill her dream that never came true by standing on the stage with the ESB.

BlueAngel
11-01-2007, 07:49 PM
I had sex appeal, a stage presence, lyrical ability and knew the moves that were taught to me. I was being trained.

They could have worked with my voice and musical abilities.

I decided I'd rather live with GOD than the sell my soul to the Devil.

BlueAngel
11-01-2007, 09:49 PM
A THREAT:

http://www.clubconspiracy.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6258&viewmode=flat&order=ASC&start=20&PHPSESSID=0e8bfc862a113dfbdbf73c496b04688d

BlueAngel
11-01-2007, 09:55 PM
Some fanatics were able to get into the PIT. They are on a high. They were so close to Springsteen. They got Tunnel of Love. That's how they refer to it when the ESB plays a song they want.

I GOT...

They're so lucky, aren't they?

Life is good.

BlueAngel
11-01-2007, 10:07 PM
There was a young boy holding a sign, "Thunder Road," at one of Springsteen's show and so he played it.

A poster commented about the love Springsteen showed for this boy.

This boy, 12, apparently, has been to a U2 concert and while Bono was singing a song, he was holding his hand.

These fanatics are indoctrinating their children into this world.

Frightening.

They want their children to see and witness the GOD they worship.

Actually, the DEVIL in disguise.

A young girl was in the PIT at a recent show and a poster replied that Springsteen just ate her up.

I say, be afraid, be very afraid.

Shadow
11-02-2007, 05:30 AM
Prince and Anderson joined Prince's cousin Charles Smith in a band called Grand Central, formed in junior high school. Initially his involvement was just part of a mainly instrumental band, that played clubs and parties in the Minneapolis area. As time went by and Prince's musical knowledge broadened he found himself dictating the arrangements to the rest of the band. Before long he had become the band's front man. By the time Prince had entered high school, Grand Central evolved into Champagne and started playing original music already drawing on a range of influences including Sly Stone, James Brown, Jimmy Page, and Jimi Hendrix. At some point Prince was a student at the Minnesota Dance Theatre

BlueAngel
11-02-2007, 07:36 AM
STATE YOUR REASON FOR THREATENING MY FREEDOM, SHADOW.

BlueAngel
11-02-2007, 10:59 AM
Anyone know what this means?

http://www.backstreets.com/btx/viewtopic.php?t=54113

George_Bush
11-02-2007, 04:16 PM
BlueAngel wrote:
I had sex appeal, a stage presence, lyrical ability and knew the moves that were taught to me. I was being trained.

They could have worked with my voice and musical abilities.

I decided I'd rather live with GOD than the sell my soul to the Devil.

Wait, this not correct. You DID sell your soul to Lucifer!

BlueAngel
11-02-2007, 05:04 PM
You wouldn't have a clue.

redrat11
11-03-2007, 05:27 PM
?



http://vdare.com/guzzardi/071102_borders.htm

BlueAngel
11-03-2007, 10:19 PM
One of the fanatics over in the Political World at BTX thinks that Springsteen will wait until the hard work is over and jump on the political band wagon very late in the game.

HUH?

Oh, I get it.

Springsteen is a POLTICO MUSICIAN and instead of doing the hard work, like going out on the CAMPAIGN TRAIL, he's doing a tour instead and will jump on the band wagon later on.

He's letting everyone else clear the path for him.

He'll step in when they need him to help get a candidate elected like last time.

Right?

Obviously, he has the ability to make or break the presidential election.

Right?

Shadow
11-04-2007, 09:40 AM
People have different notions of these values, and they live them out in different ways. I've tried to sing about some of them in my songs. But I have my own ideas about what they mean, too. That is why I plan to join with many fellow artists, including the Dave Matthews Band, Pearl Jam, R.E.M., the Dixie Chicks, Jurassic 5, James Taylor and Jackson Browne, in touring the country this October. We will be performing under the umbrella of a new group called Vote for Change. Our goal is to change the direction of the government and change the current administration come November :lol:

BlueAngel
11-05-2007, 03:02 PM
A review by a writer at one of Springsteen's shows states that when Springsteen speaks, 20,000 fans listen.

Excuse me, pal, but when Springsteen's fanatics buy tickets to a show; spend hundreds to fly there, THEY don't walk out when he begins one of his non-sensical POLITICAL rants.

I'm sure they're there for the music and, apparently, they're TRAPPED.

What is the deal with the abundance of men writers who review Springsteen's shows and tell their readers how they CRIED.

How the music flowed from Springsteen right into them and just touched their soul.

Seriously, get a grip.

Did Springsteen really pull Lynne Goldsmith onto the stage at MSG years ago and announce that she was his ex-girlfriend.

I'm telling you.

When it comes to RESPECT for women, this man doesn't have any.

BlueAngel
11-05-2007, 06:54 PM
Since Springsteen is all too familiar with "Blinded by the Light," why then does he BLIND his fans with lighting at his shows?

Could there be a purpose?

You know, shining bright lights in one's eyes does tend to make them disoriented.

This tactic is used on mind control victims.

http://www.backstreets.com/btx/viewtopic.php?t=54737&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15

BlueAngel
11-05-2007, 06:58 PM
What is the deal with these small children attending Springsteen's shows (of course, children of the fanatics) and watching the performance from the pit?

I sense, since there is some reporting about how Springsteen let this little boy touch his guitar and how he let this little girl strum his guitar, etc., that there could be a hidden agenda.

BlueAngel
11-05-2007, 07:28 PM
American Land cannot be a Springsteen original because it's based on a Pete Seeger song.

As far as the writer's interpretation as to some of the lyrics in the Magic songs and their respective themes (i.e., immigration), he's obviously seeing something that isn't there.

What he doesn't see are these verses:

The Puerto Ricans, illegals, the Asians, Arabs miles from home
Come across the water with a fire down below

Always the FIRE DOWN BELOW!

“They died building the railroads, worked to bones and skin
They died in the fields and factories, names scattered in the wind
They died to get here a hundred years ago, they're dyin' now
The hands that built the country we're all trying to keep down."

HUH? The hands that built the country WE'RE ALL TRYING TO KEEP DOWN."

First, the writer states that, contrary to his opinion, Springsteen supports more illegal immigration, but in practically the same breathe states the following:

Although I don’t believe that Springsteen’s advocacy matters—American sentiment has shifted against him dramatically—if he were to speak out on immigration’s obvious impact, Bruce could help us take another big step forward.

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Oh, yes.

I'm sure of it.

If Springsteen speaks out on immigration's obvious impact he could help US take another big step forward. Although HE supports illegal immigration with it's negative outcome, according to your interpretation of his lyrics.

By the way, what are the other big steps forward that WE have taken???

Whatever Springsteen's position on immigration, illegal or otherwise, doesn't matter.

Just the same as my neighbor's opinion on the same subject doesn't matter.

BlueAngel
11-05-2007, 08:40 PM
WOW!!

Springsteen just performed "I'll Work for Your Love."

Guess what?

THIS IS A WORLD PREMIERE!

Not just a tour premiere, but a world premiere.

It needs work, so they'll probably play it again at their next show.

Interesting, that Sanctifed4one is in the PIT tonight.

You know, the juke box lady at the BTX Promised Land.

The poster who started a thread about making love to Bruce.

Well, anyway, you get my drift.

She held up a sign with the song, "I'll Work For Your Love" and Springsteen played it FOR HER.

Ya think they know each other?

I assume Springsteen wrote that song for Scialfa, right?

BlueAngel
11-05-2007, 08:47 PM
A poster wonders why Springsteen and the band are playing such short shows.

Are they that tired, he wonders?

Another poster responds:

I'ts not about being tired...it's about sending a message with the song selection and placement. Yes they could play 28 songs... but that would dilute his message.
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Oh, yeah, right!

What message would get diluded?

The Tunnel of Love message?

Thunder Road message?

Candy's Room message?

Thundercrack message?

Dancing in the Dark message?

Born to Run Message?

Ties that Bind message?

Town Called Heartbreak message?

Two Hearts message?

Those messages?????

BlueAngel
11-05-2007, 08:51 PM
MovieLady exclaims:

He's sending a HUGE MESSAGE!!!

WOW!

To whom?

His fanatics, cause I don't think anyone else is listening.

Besides, this about sums up his message as one poster commented:

How about writing direct yet poetic lyrics that your fans can actually understand and relate to, instead of a vague, ill-formed political agenda hiding behind arbitrarily cryptic wordcraft.

BlueAngel
11-05-2007, 09:00 PM
A poster comments that he left a show feeling like he wanted more.

Another poster comments:

That's his job.
Always leave them wanting more.

That about says it.

Keeps them comin' back.

But, surely, it's also due to the fact that THEY'LL never be satisfied.

They're children who are empty inside and looking to Springsteen to fill their void.

The one he created.

They ought to know that after all these decades of following him, it ain't going to happen.

The void will always be there.

The one you think he can fill.

Not only because he is purposely leaving you with the feeling like you want more and if he gave you more, you'd be satisfied.

But, because he just can't give you want you want or need.

You only think he can.

If just for a moment.

He has your soul.

Besides, his repertoire isn't good enough so that when you leave you feel satisfied.

That could also explain it.

BlueAngel
11-05-2007, 09:11 PM
Here's the lyrics to the WORLD PREMIERE

Jackson Cage
Bruce Springsteen

Driving home she grabs something to eat
Turns a corner and drives down her street
Into a row of houses she just melts away
Like the scenery in another man's play
Into a house where the blinds are closed
To keep from seeing things she don't wanna know
She pulls the blinds and looks out on the street
The cool of the night takes the edge off the heat

In the Jackson Cage
Down in Jackson Cage
You can try with all your might
But you're reminded every night
That you been judged and handed life
Down in Jackson Cage

Every day ends in wasted motion
Just crossed swords on the killing floor
To settle back is to settle without knowing
The hard edge that you're settling for
Because there's always just one more day
And it's always gonna be that way
Little girl you've been down here so long
I can tell by the way that you move you belong to

The Jackson Cage
Down in Jackson Cage
And it don't matter just what you say
Are you tough enough to play the game they play
Or will you just do your time and fade away
Down into the Jackson Cage

Baby there's nights when I dream of a better world
But I wake up so downhearted girl
I see you feeling so tired and confused
I wonder what it's worth to me or you
Just waiting to see some sun
Never knowing if that day will ever come
Left alone standing out on the street
Till you become the hand that turns the key down in

Jackson Cage
Down in Jackson Cage
Well darlin' can you understand
The way that they will turn a man
Into a stranger to waste away

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Same ole'
Same ole'

These "little girl" songs are so dated.

Dreamin' of a better world.

Wastin' away.

Tough enough to play the game they play.

Is this another "little girl" sex slave or hooker?

Seriously, I don't know how Scialfa does it.

Stands on the stage while her husband performs love songs that have nothing to do with her and are decades old and the CONTENT!!

Two peas in a pod, I guess.

One just like the other.

Seems these are the types of songs that comprise the majority of his song book.

BlueAngel
11-05-2007, 09:18 PM
Another "little girl" tour premiere.

Ramrod
Bruce Springsteen

Hey, little dolly with the blue jeans on
I wanna ramrod with you honey, till half-past dawn
Let your hair down mama and pick up this beat
Come on and meet me tonight down on Bluebird Street
I've been working all week, I'm up to my neck in hock
Come Saturday night I let my ramrod rock

She's a hot stepping hemi with a four on the floor
She's a roadrunner engine in a '32 Ford
Late at night when I'm dead on the line
I swear I think of your pretty face when I let her unwind
Well look over yonder see them city lights
Come on little dolly 'n' go ramroddin' tonight

Come on, come on, come on little baby
Come on, come on let's shake it tonight
Come on, come, come on little sugar
Dance with your daddy and we'll go ramroddin' tonight

Hey, little dolly won't you say you will
Meet me tonight up on top of the hill
Well just a few miles cross the county line
There's a cute little chapel nestled down in the pines
Say you'll be mine little girl I'll put my foot to the floor

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Yeah, take the "little girl" to the chapel nestled down in the pines....