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Mr.NAFTA
11-09-2008, 08:27 PM
BeenThereDoneThat watch out she'll use PAL on you....and you know what that is......encoding, damn right she's trying to control my mind by using of repetition in her posts, use of the same words and themes over and over. What she doesn't know is that I;m more of an NTSC man myself and her tricks won't work on me :P

BeenThereDoneThat
11-10-2008, 07:29 PM
Seven angels Lyrics by Bruce Springsteen (http://www.lyricsdepot.com/bruce-springsteen/seven-angels.html):cool:

BeenThereDoneThat
11-10-2008, 10:48 PM
Molecular heat guns?

BeenThereDoneThat
11-10-2008, 11:33 PM
He stole your song> That is it huh?
Code Of Silence Lyrics by Bruce Springsteen (http://www.lyricsdepot.com/bruce-springsteen/code-of-silence.html)
shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

BeenThereDoneThat
11-10-2008, 11:36 PM
He knows you, I'll give you that
Your Own Worst Enemy Lyrics by Bruce Springsteen (http://www.lyricsdepot.com/bruce-springsteen/your-own-worst-enemy.html)

BeenThereDoneThat
11-11-2008, 10:27 AM
Obviously he walks with his eyes open and his lips sealed. Sounded like something you said a while back. Thats why I thought it was your song. I know this one must be about you though:
Your Own Worst Enemy Lyrics by Bruce Springsteen (http://www.lyricsdepot.com/bruce-springsteen/your-own-worst-enemy.html)

BeenThereDoneThat
11-11-2008, 09:21 PM
AH DECEPTION, THE ART OF ILLUSION. SHOW ME WHERE YOU SAID THAT. YOUR SUCH A LIAR.

you are too EZ.

BeenThereDoneThat
11-12-2008, 08:44 AM
Deception is a tool that has been used for centuries dear, especially by law enforcement in establishing a case against some one. Have you ever heard of one lie being perpetrated to catch another lie dead in its tracks. When liars who make such liablistic and defamatory remarks towards another as you have done here with Bruce, a simple white lie can destroy the dialogue of such a conspiracy as that which you propose against this man. You simply make this stuff up in my opinion.

Show me where you said that.......

SHOW ME!

Maybe CNN would like to know about this one, or Fox news. With a couple of key words in a story with your name in the title, YOU CAN BECOME FRONT PAGE NEWS.

Such sicknesses as yours can be cured after a mental evaluation and the proper procedure can be applied once your story is drained with the holes you keep punching in it.

Simply put...you have been captured in a lie that is detrimental to your big hoax.:eek:

Leonardo
11-12-2008, 05:41 PM
Children?

Leonardo
11-12-2008, 05:58 PM
I was Springsteen's property.

Or, so he thought.

A slave whom he owned, but he shared me.

Oh, wasn't that so generous of him?

It was said that Springsteen liked "dark meat."

I am Bruce Springsteen.

Leonardo
11-12-2008, 07:32 PM
YouTube - Mr.Mister - Kyrie [Singalong]

BeenThereDoneThat
11-13-2008, 12:17 AM
Bruce comes outta yo mouth so much , I wonder how long he has been in there?

YOU CANT PROVE ANYTHING.
EVERYTHING YOU SAY IS A LIE
YOU ARE MENTAL
YOU ARE A BRUCE SPINGSTIEN...(I hope he is a Jew and hiding it)...ADDICT
YOU ARE A SPURNED LOVER MOST LIKELY
BRUCE AUTO GRAPHED MY FOOTBALL
IT SOLD FOR 600$
I APPRECIATE WHAT THE MAN DID FOR ME
I LOVE HIS MUSIC (especially the ones about you)
IF ANYONE EVER DESERVED TO NOT HAVE A LIFE: IT IS YOU BA>
EVEN LEONARDO CANT STAND YOU..THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES

Leonardo
11-13-2008, 01:22 PM
Bruce comes outta yo mouth so much , I wonder how long he has been in there?

YOU CANT PROVE ANYTHING.
EVERYTHING YOU SAY IS A LIE
YOU ARE MENTAL
YOU ARE A BRUCE SPINGSTIEN...(I hope he is a Jew and hiding it)...ADDICT
YOU ARE A SPURNED LOVER MOST LIKELY
BRUCE AUTO GRAPHED MY FOOTBALL
IT SOLD FOR 600$
I APPRECIATE WHAT THE MAN DID FOR ME
I LOVE HIS MUSIC (especially the ones about you)
IF ANYONE EVER DESERVED TO NOT HAVE A LIFE: IT IS YOU BA>
EVEN LEONARDO CANT STAND YOU..THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES

Are you kidding me? BA is my lover.

Leonardo
11-14-2008, 09:25 AM
Yeah, right, turtle.

Don't you know it, dove.

Leonardo
11-14-2008, 09:55 AM
Don't I know what?

If I have to ask; I obviously don't know what it is you think I know.

Not the type to kiss and tell.

Leonardo
11-14-2008, 10:25 AM
Look, Leonardo, I don't know who you are and what you're trying to imply is just plain ridiculous.

So, what's your point with all this?

We had an agreement we wouldn't talk about this online.

Leonardo
11-14-2008, 12:36 PM
I couldn't possibly make an agreement with someone I don't know.

That's what you're supposed to say.

Leonardo
11-14-2008, 03:33 PM
I don't say what I'm supposed to say.

I say what I WANT to say.

That's what we agreed you would say if this subject ever came up.

Leonardo
11-15-2008, 10:33 AM
Hey turtle:

Why did you say you were Bruce Springsteen?

Cause it made me giggle..

Leonardo
11-18-2008, 08:59 AM
Oops.

Did I say something?

Only that you were glad I was your Controller/Handler.

http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/parade/abj76/PG/images/royal_court/the_fool.gif

Leonardo
11-18-2008, 03:04 PM
Stating the aforementioned makes you not only a FOOL, but a LIAR, too.

And yet I giggle on..

BlueAngel
11-19-2008, 12:43 AM
This is a message I received some time ago from Dixon, Tuesday, November 18, 2003:

I was posting on IndyMedia in the city in which I live.

when we really want to get you, you will be silenced. if it takes a "friendly fire incident" to shut you up, your son will be fragged. You had better stop lying, you filthy cunt.

then he says,

and another thing....

the only reason that you are still breathing is that you are more useful to "THEM" right now than you ever were. By spouting your lunacy, you discredit the rest of the liars and freaks who make it their life's mission to smear good men. If there was any truth to this, "THEY" could always take you back to Lawrence, any time "they" wanted to. It sounds like you may need another treatment to stop your pernicious lying. Iheard you like it in the ass.....

Nice, huh?

How does he think THEY would take me back to Lawrence?

Knock on my door and tell my husband and children THEY'VE come to take me back to Lawrence and they would just step out of the way.

As if they OWN and CONTROL me.

If Indymedia is still in existence, I would appreciate it if they could search their archives and retrieve this message from Dixon.

The above comment from Dixon was posted by me on the following Club Conspiracy thread in 2005:

http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/f31/blueangel-government-spy-802-16.html

Leonardo
11-19-2008, 09:10 AM
You're in desperate need of a screwdriver.

And you're in desperate need of a screw.

Leonardo
11-19-2008, 12:40 PM
When I told my husband that you said I was in desperate need of a screw, he brought me to the garage and said, "I have all the screws you need right here and a screwdriver, too, for Leonardo so he can tighten the one in his head that is obviously lose."

Lose screw that he is.

Yet I giggle on..

Leonardo
11-19-2008, 04:43 PM
That's all you've got?

Guess I stumped ya.

Yet I giggle on..

Leonardo
11-20-2008, 09:28 AM
You need some new material.

Stale, boring and old.

Just like yourself.

Giggle I yet on..

Leonardo
11-21-2008, 09:08 AM
Well, then...I think that clears up the passages a bit..

Leonardo
11-24-2008, 02:30 PM
Bless you.

Leonardo
11-25-2008, 04:32 PM
Well, Leonardo.

I am truly at a loss for words.

Unbelieveable.

I know.

Did you hear me sneeze?

I thought you might be having an alergy attack.

Are you alright?

Leonardo
11-26-2008, 10:32 AM
Allergy attack?

Typo.

BlueAngel
12-12-2008, 10:59 PM
I've traveled high and I've traveled low
I've carried scars inside my soul
the hurt, the shame, the anger, the fear
but I never lost my sense of pride
for what I am I will not hide

You can strip me bare and make me cold
you can strap me up and tell me tales
you can mark my skin
you can experiment
you can tell me that you own my mind
but in the end
I'm the test of time

You can call me names
that I do not know
you can tell me that I belong to you
you can say you own me
and I'm your slave
you can torture me
to make me behave

but you never knew what you bargained for
cause I'm not a doll you bought from a store
My heart is mine
I own my brain
and my courage, well, it still remains

So you can strap me up to your electric chair
you can strip me naked
you can make me bare
and I wonder do you think I care

You can inject my body with your acid drugs
You can starve me, rape me
keep me caged
if you stun gun me
do you think I'll behave

I wasn't born to be a slave
I was born to leave my name engraved
upon the books of history
where it will be written of all your sins

So, go ahead, strap me up
get your needles
get your stuff
poke and prod and torture me
but I'll never tell you what you want to hear
cause I have no fright and I have no fear

I resisted the pain
kept my brain intact
cause I'd rather be dead
than remain with you
so I cut a path
made my own road
traveled it long
and traveled it slow
Now decades later
I've raised my head
it's ugly to you and you wish I were dead

But here I am
staring in your face
not running or hiding from my past
it's a part of me
it's who I am
and those who put their hands on me
well, I'm the test of time
and what will be will be

I've traveled high and I've traveled low
I've carried scars inside my soul
the hurt, the shame, the anger, the fear
but I never lost my sense of pride
for what I am I will not hide

BlueAngel
12-13-2008, 10:32 PM
You thought that you could silence me
interfere and frighten me
you trained me like you would a dog
lay down, behave, give you my paw

I told you then and I'll repeat it now
I was born a child
not an animal
that you could train
to act on your will

I knew that what you did was wrong
and you knew back then that I was strong
I resisted, I fought, I spit in your face
I told you in words of your utter disgrace

You thought that you could silence me
interfere and frighten me
turn me into a walking zombie
ruin my mind
scar my soul
beat me down
but I was bold

I stood up to the test of time
and here I am
this mountain's mine

So tell me now who will prevail
men of sins
or this once little girl

you thought that you could beat me down
twist my brain
and control my mind
you thought that I would go insane
never have a life
nothing worth the pain

So tell me now who will prevail
men of sins
or this once little girl

you thought I couldn't stand the test of time
but, I'm writing this and this mountain's mine

GoldIsGood
12-31-2008, 11:00 PM
Every breath you take, every move you make, I'll be watching you..can't you see? You belong to me..how my poor hear aches..with every..step ... you ..take.

Now which member was it that had the dad who worked within the CIA was it Copeland? Love those guys.

BlueAngel
01-27-2009, 12:22 AM
For my husband:

I love you, Joe
More than you'll ever know
you opened my eyes
when I couldn't see
you're like the warm, calm waters of the deep blue sea
embracing me
embracing me

To be continued.....

I was alone and frightened, but there you stood
straight and silent
in the face of all I knew
you swallowed my fears
helped me rise above
you're the moon, the stars and my only love

To be continued.....

When I feel prey
to the predators on BS.net
and the truth I believed were horrible lies
you held me close
never blinked an eye

when I believed
in an altered state
that I had a baby and cut it up
was sent away so I couldn't speak
you held me close and embraced me
like the warm, calm waters of the deep blue sea

you watched me weep while I lay in bed
for days and days and days on end
under my covers, hiding my head
reliving the torture of days gone past
And, as I went hungry, unable to eat
there you stood with two clay feet

you're my rock
you're my sun
you're my moon at night
you're my star
that's forever shining bright
you're like the earth and the dirt under my feet
you're the warm, calm waters of the deep blue sea
embracing me
embracing me

you give me oxygen when I can't breathe
you're my moon
you're my star
you're the wide open sea

you wrap me me up inside your arms
I feel safe, I feel love and I feel calm

you gave me eyes when I couldn't see
you held me tight when I couldn't be

you're my guiding light
you're my strength from within
you're my life, you're my heart
you know where I've been

you're like the deep, blue sea embracing me
the deep, blue sea and all it's warmth
you're a blanket
you're my hope
you're my lucky charm

you're like the deep, blue sea embracing me
embracing me...
embracing me...

Revelation1217
03-09-2009, 02:44 PM
A lot of people might not see things the same way.

Revelation1217
03-20-2009, 02:12 PM
That sounds icky to me too

Darth Cacodaemon
04-07-2009, 01:06 PM
Taken from the thread:

The Truth Revealed!! Pokemons Are Demons!!

http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/f19/truth-revealed-pokemons-demons-7373.html

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Posted by BlueAngel to Darth:

Well, thank you for posting that nonsense.

We shall forever be grateful.

Darth's response:

You shall forever be..DEAD

Laugh now, scream later...

I will enjoy breaking you slowly until you realize your place is by my side. You will serve me or you will die.
Resistance is futile. Why let yourself be destroyed when, if you become my apprentice, you can be rewarded by my Master as well?

Darth Cacodaemon
04-07-2009, 01:07 PM
------------------------------------------------------------

That's funny.

I have a pulse, so, obviously, I'm not DEAD!

Don't look behind you...I might be closer then you know.;)

Darth Cacodaemon
04-07-2009, 01:27 PM
Knowing what I do about the music industry, it is extremely difficult for me to watch the propaganda that surrounds their most "lucrative cash cows."

It has accelerated of late. I can only ponder why.

They bring political messages to attract a following. They connect themselves with charitable organizations to appear sympathetic.

Love songs are written to trigger your sexual programming. To get you addicted. To fantasize about them.

Most of these musicians give neither of their time or money to the causes they want us to support by either requesting airtime on the radio of our favorite song and then afterward being allowed the opportunity to contribute to a "food bank," or paying $100.00 to see a show and then being asked to donate on our way out.

They do not control their assets. The music industry is owned and operated by the CIA/Mafia. Mind control exists within. Many times, managers are handlers/controllers. Sex slaves are plentiful. Ever wonder why so many artists use so many different female names in their songs even when they're married? Ever sit down and read the lyrics to many of the songs of your favorite artist? How 'bout when an artist writes a love song of a lost love and he's married, been married for a long time. Ever wonder where this comes from? They have to use sex slaves to break hearts, to get the "creative juices" flowing, as they call it.

Artists tour non-stop sometimes for several years. Do you think they have this stamina at the ages most of these rock stars are at these days because, well, they're wired differently than we are? Perhaps, programmed differently? Do you think they make the choice to go out on the road for so long? Don't you think by now they'd have enough money and want to maybe take it easy for a while? Do they love music so much that they have to be immersed in it 24/7. I'm talking about their top "cash cows."

They have millions and between all of them they have zillions and could probably end world hunger. But, they do not control their assets.

In Peace,
BlueAngel

LIAR
LUNATIC
RELIGIOUS FANATIC
MANIAC

BlueAngel
04-08-2009, 10:53 PM
When Abu Gharib was making the headlines, I was on Springsteen's official Sony site and a member, BobinToronto, commented to me that I would know what it was like, such as being ridden like a mule and broomstick.

How'd he know?

Darth Cacodaemon
04-10-2009, 06:31 PM
I am of the opinion that interrogrators/torturers are MPD and/or not of sound mind.

I'm certain you already know this.

You just can't do that stuff, if you are otherwise.

I'm certain this Belaphor person that Darth is suggesting come pay me a visit is a fictional GOON.

Most of the GOONS were of Navy intelligence.

GOON equals a THUG/torturer.

Darth displays these traits.

This is my assessment.

Fictional? Oh, no, no no! He is quite real or should I say IT is quite real.

Unfortunately, you fail to understand. As I said, I wouldn't waste my time sending some useless goon to bother you. A goon you can stop, you can shoot him or her or whatever.
No, he is a spirit (and you misspelled it's name). An evil spirit, you could say. As such, for most people, they can not defend themselves against it. Bullets have no meaning to a non-embodied spirit. Nor can you kill it.
Furthermore, it can reach you any time I desire. As I said, he/it was given to me as a gift by my Master, for services rendered. As I also said, he/it is the Spirit of Sloth, more particularly Despair and Suicide.
As for torture, I see no reason to do it for information. Torture only makes the person say what they think you want to hear. But..to torment someone you despise or to use them as an example? Then yes, because it works.
I don't work for the C.I.A . Now, I am not saying that some agents don't work for US, but I AM saying we have no need of the C.I.A. Lucifer has a far, far superior Intelligence agency then any temporal government.
You will join me..eventually, dear BlueAngel. Why do I say this? Because you will eventually see the truth that it is your only choice. All other options simply will not suffice.
As for not serving us..HA HA HA:D You spread disinformation which serves us well. In the end, you will cease your futile resistance.

Darth Cacodaemon
04-10-2009, 10:44 PM
I don't spread disinformation.

I spread truth.

How's this for truth?

You are one sick puppy.

Sick? HA HA HA HA...I've never been better in my life. You're just mad because I don't carry any illusions.

Besides, dosen't it strike you that my behavior is totally consistent with the Tanahk, the New Testament and the Koran? In both, their "God" kills his enemies and tortures them. The only difference is that for now, I am a mortal.
I would think you would be congratulating yourselves. Haven't i learned my lessons well? Everyone says this "God" is "good", and yet He plainly states he tortures and kills his enemies. Why, I am just following "God's" example!

Let's be honest. All your Holy Books plainly say that a person in my position will be "sent to Hell" if their side wins. Apparently, it is evil for me to wish to kill my enemies and torture them, but for their God to torture me for eternity is ok. Shall I qoute you about the "Lake of Fire", where the "fire dieth not" ?
Shall I mention the flood? The fire and brimstone of Sodom and Ghemorrah? The genocide of Canaan ? Pah-leeeze.

You're Holy Books and your society has taught me one thing, if nothing else: the powerful do as they will. Whether it is a guy who kills his wife and gets off even though their is TONS of forensic evidence linking him to the crime (O.J Simpson) or it is a Diety who kills everyone on the planet but three people on a boat, the overwhelming evidence proves that fact.
By what right did you have to nuke Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Power. By what right did you have to starve Iraqi children and bomb them? Power. By what right did you have to steal people from their homeland and make them you're slaves? Power. All this handwringing just hides the truth. Power is what makes a man a God and a criminal innocent.
So now I am the bad guy for learning this lesson so well? I am the bastard for having observed it and emulating what you do and not what you say? None of you cried crocodile tears when they were waterboarding the assess of the dudes in Gutanama Bay. No, most of you were behind it. Not many of you protest the oppression of the Chinese people, because you like cheap goods. The fact is for all you're posturing you are hypocrites!

Prove me wrong. When has morality stood in the way of us or anyone else powerful getting their way? Do you think we have a class system for nothing? Do you really believe the Police protect the poor as well as the wealthy? Please! Those have eyes to see and ears to hear, see and hear.

Darth Cacodaemon
04-10-2009, 11:04 PM
I suggest you search for my thread titled, "GITMO" before you speak.

I was tortured and certainly do not condone it.

I was afraid to take a shower when I was returned to my home the last time I was tortured around the age of 17 because I didn't want water on my face.

Please check my thread, "Why is China Poisoning Us," before you speak, as well.

Poor people are considered to be useless eaters.

Non-contributor of society.

They receive no benefits.

Ah. Was this the Black Helicopters or the Greys that returned you?

I suggest you use non reflective tinfoil and make a hat. I heard it makes it so the CIA can't read your mind as well.

Majorion
04-18-2009, 09:08 AM
Gotta agree with you here BlueAngel...

This Darth-whoever is one SICK person.

Darth Cacodaemon
04-22-2009, 09:11 AM
Gotta agree with you here BlueAngel...

This Darth-whoever is one SICK person.

Who are you to judge me, worm? I am in the process of self deification. Just as the religious fanatics say that whatever their godling does is right, so too it will be for me once my process of Apotheosis reaches it's end state.
God's, as your so called "Holy Books" say can do whatever the hell they want. Didn't YHWH kill the human race (except for three people) with a Flood? No one seems to be upset about that. The religious fanatics say we can't judge YHWH because he is "god". Didn't the Israelites slaughter the Caananites?
As a God I can do whatever I want with you.

Darth Cacodaemon
04-29-2009, 02:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Cacodaemon
I sense your anger towards the "Pigs"..Perhaps they were sent to lead YOU to ME. Pain is a teacher and payback is a bitch.
Are you going to moan about this forever? If so, then you're wasting your breath. Or..Do you intend to do something about it?

There is nothing more pathetic then someone who bitches and moans, but won't do anything about it. So which will you be, a perpetual victim or will you do what is necessary, even if it is difficult, to get your pound of flesh?

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Posted by BlueAngel:

Excuse me, but I'm not bitching and moaning.

I'm contributing to the forum about this topic.

I WAS a victim.

Operative word:

"WAS"

I am a SURVIVOR.

The mind controllers who tortured and abused me were not sent to me and, even if they were, I'm CERTAIN beyond a reasonable doubt it wasn't so that I would be led to you.

Oh, how wrong you are! All your roads eventually lead right to me. You may wander for a while, but it is your destiny to come to me. When you do, I shall deliver you to my Master who will show you the truth of the world and the nature of power.

An anonymous poster on an internet forum.

Please tell the forum to what you are referring when you ask if I am going to do what is necessary, even if it is difficult, to get my pound of flesh.

No need to be obscure.

Or, is there?

You know what you must do. But the question is, quite plainly, are you willing to make the effort to do so? You will never have revenge on these people as it stands now. Please be assured, the reason they did what they did wasn't for brainwashing like you think. If it were just for that, they could have kidnapped a homeless person off the street no one would miss.
No, there is more to then meets the eye, to which they are attracted as is my Master. You would be a powerful ally. It is for this reason they kidnapped you. The brainwashing cover is horse shit to misdirect you.

I mean, if you weren't obscure, you would have to be clear and concise as to what you are inferring and that isn't how people like you operate.

If I were to tell everything I knew, openly, I might end up floating face down in the Detroit River. No matter how far someone is up on the food chain, there is always somebody higher then you. I don't think I need to tell you the penalty for what amounts to treason.


You know that I know what you're suggesting, but you just can't come right out and say it in plain ENGLISH for all to read, now can you?

Good thing I don't reside in a suggestible state of mind, isn't it?

You do, but you don't realize it. Like I said, in the end my Master will have you. You woud be a powerful ally for my Master and would a good soldier for N.W.O . I would counsel you to face up to reality and accept the truth rather then deceive yourself with empty hope and fantasies with no foundation.(:

http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/f42/its-called-torture-not-interrogation-techniques-7462.htmlLL

Darth Cacodaemon
04-29-2009, 02:48 PM
Darth said:

"There is a Path for those who persevere that will give you the power, should you wish it, to kill those responsible.
However, I doubt you're strong enough to walk it."

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BlueAngel said:

You have suggested that I have the power to KILL those responsible for my victimization, if I wish it.

I don't wish to kill anyone, but, please, enlighten the forum as to the names of those responsible for my victimization since you seem to be "in the know."

To whom you are referring to when you use the words "THOSE WHO PERSEVERE?"

In particular, your choice of the word "THOSE" suggests you are referring to more than one.

Would you be referring to alters that you believe I possess and whom perservered and that these alters will give me the power to kill the other alters that were created through trauma-based torture to cause discontent within my CORE?

Sorry, pal, but I'm perfectly content.

I am ONE and, as is BLATANTLY obvious, in your face kind of thing, my CORE is in tact and I don't adhere to "suicide" programming.

ALIVE and WELL!

http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/f24/george-w-bush-bible-probably-not-6891.html

In the end, you will have to choose sides, Blue Angel. Choose wisely, because this is a "winner takes all" game. The penalty for the losing side is extermination.
I am not interested in your alters. Big deal. I am interested in bring you before my Master so you can join us. BlueAngel, don't let idealism destroy you. Think very carefully over whom you ally yourself to.
I myself mean no harm to you. But this is a game, but a damn serious one. In the end, there will be blood. Think it over..

Darth Cacodaemon
05-05-2009, 08:00 PM
I don't have alters and contrary to what you say, that was what you were fishing for.

I'm not interested in you bringing me before anyone.

Nothing destroys me.

Idealism or otherwise.

I don't need to think carefully about to whom I align myself with as I have already made that quite clear.

Take your scare tactics elsewhere.
So Be it! You have sealed your fate:

Lobotomy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobotomy)

Darth Cacodaemon
05-05-2009, 11:15 PM
Yep.

You're right.

My fate has been sealed.

I'm scheduled for a lobotomy next week.

:eek:

Laugh as you will, but you have chosen to be destroyed by refusing to humble yourself before my Master.

Let me make this simple for you: Anyone, no matter who they are, that will refuse to bend their knee to my Master and serve him, will be destroyed. It dosen't matter who you are, how much money you have or how powerful you are. This is not a position where anyone can safely sit on the fence.
My Master has declared that any who will not side with Him are to be crushed and totally annihilated. The means are quite irrelevant and trivial. The only thing that people should know is that whatever they decide, they should know when the chips come down it will be too late to change sides.
Don't any of you come crawling back when, finally, battle is joined. Do not whine about civil rights or the Counstitution or the Bill of Rights when the armies begin marching. It is far too late in this War for anyone to stop it now.
This War has been being waged for billions of years. It is time that the Final Battle come, so that we may either be victorious and exterminate all our enemies or be exterminated. The point is, you people need to get your heads out fo your collective assess and realize this is no game.
I just want you to be without any sense of misunderstanding of what I am saying here. We are talking total war here, and we ARE going to exterminate nations and peoples-ANYONE who sides with the enemy.

For an ideal of what your nation will look like, look at pictures of Berlin after the Allies conquered it-bombed out, the people hungry, e.t.c. Now you know what is coming your way.

Darth Cacodaemon
05-19-2009, 01:34 PM
Thank you, Lorne Michaels (Lorne David Lipowitz), the producer of SNL (Saturday Night Live).

Nice way to pay tribute to the mothers of the world on Mother's Day.

And, thank you, Susan Sarandon, for taking part in this disgusting skit.

I have lost all respect for you as a mother and a person.

Did your children watch your performance on SNL?

Justin Timberlake?

What can you say about him?

Disgusting, as well.

"MOTHER LOVE" Justin Timberlake snl Skit Video by JILL - MySpace Video (http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=57153433)

The lyrics tell of mom's suffering "since dad passed away" --- "We should f--k each others mothers." "I can't wait until I f--k your mother." "It'll be an honor to become your stepfather."

Lyrics to Mother Love:

"Hold up/ You thinking what I'm thinking/ I'm thinking I'm thinkin' it too," "Slow up/ What time's it, dog?/ It's time for a switcheroo/ We both love our moms/ Women with grown women needs/ I say we break 'em off, show 'em how much they really mean."

"I'm a motherlover, you're a motherlover/ We should f--- each other's mothers," cause every Mother's Day needs a mother's night/ If doin' it is wrong, I don't wanna be right."


FOR YOU: YouTube - Crazy American Fundamentalist Christian

Darth Cacodaemon
06-18-2009, 01:39 PM
Let's keep the topic of secret, silent and invisible weapons on the forefront.

What say you?

I vote yes.

Does my vote count?


No, you're vote doesn't count. Why? Because weakness should never be rewarded. You will remain weak as long as you nourish you're naive beliefs about the world and the truth about what happen to you.

The only right weaklings have are to perish or be slaves.PERIOD.

Darth Cacodaemon
06-18-2009, 01:41 PM
If I opened my mouth, I would have to sit idly by watching my family suffer knowing I CAUSED it and that I couldn't stop THEM.

YEP.

Like I said.

IT's ALL MY FAULT!

Makes perfect sense to the sadistic pigs who speak it.

It is your fault. If you weren't such an idealist, you would do what was necessary. But because you are an idealist you don't.

The answer is simple; kill them without mercy or compassion. But you are too weak to do that. Thus YOU ARE TO BLAME!

GUILTY!!

BlueAngel
06-25-2009, 09:11 PM
I love you, Joe
More than you'll ever know
you opened my eyes
when I couldn't see
you're like the warm, calm waters of the deep blue sea
embracing me
embracing me

I was alone and frightened, but there you stood
straight and silent
in the face of all I knew
you swallowed my fears
helped me rise above
you're the moon, the stars and my only love

When I feel prey
to the predators on BS.net
and the truth I believed were horrible lies
you held me close
never blinked an eye

when I believed
in an altered state
that I had a baby and cut it up
was sent away so I couldn't speak
you held me close and embraced me
like the warm, calm waters of the deep blue sea

you watched me weep while I lay in bed
for days and days and days on end
under my covers, hiding my head
reliving the torture of days gone past
And, as I went hungry, unable to eat
there you stood with two clay feet

you're my rock
you're my sun
you're my moon at night
you're my star
that's forever shining bright
you're like the earth and the dirt under my feet
you're the warm, calm waters of the deep blue sea
embracing me
embracing me

you give me oxygen when I can't breathe
you're my moon
you're my star
you're the wide open sea

you wrap me me up inside your arms
I feel safe, I feel love and I feel calm

you gave me eyes when I couldn't see
you held me tight when I couldn't be

you're my guiding light
you're my strength from within
you're my life, you're my heart
you know where I've been

you're like the deep, blue sea embracing me
the deep, blue sea and all it's warmth
you're a blanket
you're my hope
you're my lucky charm

you're like the deep, blue sea embracing me
embracing me...
embracing me...

Darth Cacodaemon
06-26-2009, 09:45 AM
Please be advised that when I pose a question, I am not seeking an answer from you.

If I were weak, I would not be where I am today.

Free and not a slave.

I am well aware of the truth as to what happened to me during my incarceration in MKULTRA/Project.

However, since you profess to know better than I as to what I endured during my victimization, kindly inform the forum.

Obviously, you must have witnessed and/or played a role in my incarceration in order to claim that you know the TRUTH about my enslavement and I don't.

You know I was tortured.

So, kindly clue us in.

If I have it all wrong, correct me.

We're waiting.

Another example of Darth suggesting that I commit suicide.

He comments that I am a weakling and weaklings should perish.

Trigger word:

Weakling.

Sad..what more can I say?

I suppose, in your own deluded way, it makes sense. My point, which you missed alltogether, is that if you TRULY believed someone was out to get your family-presumabley whom you love- you would do something about it.

You haven't. Therefore, there is only a couple logical options that derive from that:

1) You DO love your family, but are too squeamish to do it.
2) You DO love your family, but are unable to do it
3) You DO love your family, and since you know this is all bullshit, you can't be bothered to do anything, i.e, there is no threat
4) You DON'T love your family, and therefore the thought of them being harmed is allright with you
5) You DON'T love your family AND are too squeamish to do it, therefore you are content to let whatever happens happen
6) You DON'T love your family AND are unable to do anthing about it.
7) You DON'T love your family AND this is all bullshit, so you can't be bothered to do anything about the so called "threats" from them

I am sure there are other logical inferences once can draw. May I humbly ask you if you believe there is a threat to your family, why you haven't informed the police? One might logically conclude if you DID NOT inform the police there are a variety of reasons

1) You did tell them, but they blew you off as a quack and a lunatic
2) You did tell them, but there "in" on it
3)You did tell them, and it is under investigation
4) You didn't tell them, because it's a load of horseshit and you know it.

So, in short, if you truly believe these threats what have YOU done about it?

My opinion is you're either too weak or deluded to know what you need to do. You should know beyond a shadow of a doubt that I would kill anyone, anywhere and under any circumstances that posed a threat to those I loved. I would end their existensce, along with anyone else who was part of it. Why? Because I love my family, and if the choice is between their safety and the lives of others, they lose.

galexander
06-29-2009, 11:26 AM
If mind control is going on in the music industry then I would very much suspect that organised crime were responsible. Criminals can also use techniques of mind control and at the end of the day it isn't too difficult to do. Basically you drug someone up to the eyeballs and beat them up and this counts as trauma based mind control.

After raking in millions and millions various persons in government can be paid off to look the other way, in other words corruption starts to creep in.

Everyone knows that gangsters are involved in the music industry but how far does it go?

Darth Cacodaemon
06-30-2009, 02:56 PM
Try making sense next time you post a comment to me and I might oblige you with a response.

But, then again, maybe not.

P.S.

Kindly inform the forum from where you have drawn the conclusion that I believe the lives of my family members are in danger and, therefore, you have suggested on numerous occasions that I kill/murder those persons who pose a threat to my family members without mercy and/or compassion.

We're awaiting names, Darth, because obviously you know the identify of those persons whom YOU believe pose a threat to my family members as you've suggested on numerous occasions that I KILL/MURDER them without mercy and/or compassion.

I've never mentioned the names of anyone whom I believe pose a threat to my family members.

Not that I would, but how could I possibly kill/murder people WHOM YOU believe are a threat to my family members, if I have no clue as to their identity?

Why don't you notify the proper authorities on my behalf?


You know who they are as well as I do. It is time you come full circle and accept your destiny.
You can only realize your true power by killing them. You have only blocked it from your memory, so you can avoid what you must do. You know fully well they must die, so your mind, in a feeble attempt to escape your destiny, has hidden it from you.
It is time you realize you are not like the idiots and morons here. You were meant for much more, as you well know. Stop trying to flee WHO and WHAT you are. You are a killer by nature, and even as I write this I can FEEL the HATE inside of you.Admit it, you hate them and want REVENGE. Give in to your HATE.
Only your HATE can destroy them. It is only natural you should HATE them and desire VENGANCE. Stop resisting WHO you are and WHAT you are. Crush the life out of them.

Darth Cacodaemon
06-30-2009, 02:59 PM
You know who they are as well as I do. It is time you come full circle and accept your destiny.
You can only realize your true power by killing them. You have only blocked it from your memory, so you can avoid what you must do. You know fully well they must die, so your mind, in a feeble attempt to escape your destiny, has hidden it from you.
It is time you realize you are not like the idiots and morons here. You were meant for much more, as you well know. Stop trying to flee WHO and WHAT you are. You are a killer by nature, and even as I write this I can FEEL the HATE inside of you.Admit it, you hate them and want REVENGE. Give in to your HATE.
Only your HATE can destroy them. It is only natural you should HATE them and desire VENGANCE. Stop resisting WHO [/U]you are and WHAT you are. Crush the life out of them.

You know who they are as well as I do. It is time you come full circle and accept your destiny.
You can only realize your true power by killing them. You have only blocked it from your memory, so you can avoid what you must do. You know fully well they must die, so your mind, in a feeble attempt to escape your destiny, has hidden it from you.
It is time you realize you are not like the idiots and morons here. You were meant for much more, as you well know. Stop trying to flee WHO and WHAT you are. You are a killer by nature, and even as I write this I can FEEL the HATE inside of you.Admit it, you hate them and want REVENGE. Give in to your HATE.
Only your HATE can destroy them. It is only natural you should HATE them and desire VENGANCE. Stop resisting [U]WHO you are and WHAT you are. Crush the life out of them.

Darth Cacodaemon
07-02-2009, 10:16 PM
Your comments are not welcome on this forum or MY thread.

You are trespassing.

Your post as quoted above will be made a part of OUR permanent record.

Since you KNOW that I've blocked from my memory the names of those persons whom you desire that I kill/murder without mercy or compassion, kindly provide same.

We're waiting.

P.S.

In case you weren't aware, I'd like to inform you that you are in serious need of psychiatric care.



Oh dear, that's not how it works. You know that.

I reward strength, not weakness.

As for me not being welcomed on your thread, it seems to me that if you desire you can do something about that. As the old saying goes:

MAKE ME!

Darth Cacodaemon
07-03-2009, 02:22 AM
Why is it you have not yet supplied us with the names of those persons whom you have suggested on numerous occassions that I kill/murder without mercy or compassion?

Is it because you are a yellow-bellied chicken?

IS this BlueAngel? From what I understand you have more personalities then Sybil. You know, by your own admission there you are MENTALLY ILL otherwise known as KOO KOO, CRAZY, NUTCASE, INSANE, PSYCHOTIV, FRUITLOOP, BANANNAS, LOOPY, ONE CARD SHORT OF A FULL DECK, LOONEY TUNES. In other words, between the 10,000 personalities you have and the delusions that have devoured whatever serves as a brain in your head your crazier then a shit house rat.
Tell me something, do the 10,000 personalities you have work or anything? Do each of the 10,000 personalities you have EACH collect a Welfare check or SSI?
I feel sorry for your husband. Did you tell him he was marrying a serious head case who made Sybil look like a posterchild for Mental Health? I hope with as seriously fucked up and deluded as you are, society is protected by sending you and the 10,000 other personalities that ramble around in that diseased lump of fat in your head a serious check, so at the least we know your safely locked away in whatever serves as housing for you.
I think myself your better off in a straightjacket in a padded room, myself. How anyone could allow a deluded psycho like you loose into society is beyond me...

Darth Cacodaemon
07-04-2009, 01:39 AM
I don't collect welfare or SSI.

I'm 53. SSI doesn't apply.

My husband and I are self-employed.

We are the owners of a very successful business.

How 'bout you?

How do you earn a living?

I suppose it's impossible for you to earn a living from the padded cell in which you reside.

Well, if you are successful, it must be because your husband locks you away in the closet. I can;t see you getting many clients talking like a raving mad woman.

What is the business? A freak show? I could see you getting paid for that, you know, standing next to the Bearded Lady or what not.

Me, well, I consult for some health clinics and also I am like those concierge doctors, except I am a concierge psychologist. My clients are people who are famous, and need meds and counseling, e.t.c. Basically, I am on call for them, more or less 24-7. Pays pretty good.
So you see, I hear the typical insane ravings such as what you spew. Usually if they get to the point you are, I go for the old school anti-psychotics. Why? Because anyone as paranoid and deluded as yourself is truly psychotic.

Darth Cacodaemon
07-05-2009, 02:08 AM
Appears to me that you are RUNNING ON EMPTY.

Have you always been a pathological liar?

I dunno...Have you always been a paranoid, insane schizophrenic with 10, 000 other personalities running loose in that roach motel you call a brain?
Maybe I am running on empty..but nothing can be as empty as that vaccum between your ears.

Milly
07-06-2009, 06:09 PM
BlueAngel, I read that website that was posted, the one on whale.to.

Understandably, I had no idea that something like that existed until I read this thread.

How utterly terrifying!

I am curious as to how you ended up being a victim, and why? And what it took you to overcome all of it?

Admittedly, I haven't read this entire thread yet, but I find what I have read really interesting/appalling.

Milly
07-07-2009, 12:23 PM
Thank you for sharing all this.

I'm only on page 36 of this thread, and I'm sorry if I've asked you to repeat yourself.

Thank you for sharing, nonetheless.

At one point I believe you said that people who have not themselves experienced mind control would be unable to comprehend the types of abuse one endures, and the changes it causes within. I believe you are earnest in what you are saying, and that you truly suffered, and it is, like you said, hard for me to imagine what that would be like because I've never been there. I am trying, though!

Milly
07-07-2009, 12:34 PM
I met the three criteria.

I was identified as GIFTED/TALENTED; abused at home and less fortunate.

In addition, my family had connections to the Mafia which has connections to the CIA and pornography.


I'm sorry if I'm prying too much.

You said you met the criteria. Also, I think you said you believed you were as young as 8 when you first met your handler/controller. Were you taken to a designated place, away from your family, where the mind control happened? And if so, did your parents allow and/or condone this? Or did they try to retrieve you?

Also, it doesn't sound like your other sibling(s) was involved in the abuse, or at least not to the extent you were. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but it does not sound like she was involved in MKULTRA the way you were?

Thank you again in advance, if I'm asking you to repeat yourself. I will continue to read the thread.

galexander
07-09-2009, 02:39 PM
Forgive me for butting in again and I confess I haven't read all your posts, but I am interested in getting the theory correct. I have read both of Cathy O'Brien's books on her experience as a mind control victim in the CIA's MKULTRA and her story comes across as very similar to your own. She suffered child abuse and was used in child pornography before becoming involved in MKULTRA when she was subsequently used as a call girl and a drugs mule.

However as with yourself the first link in the chain appears to be organised crime and the Mafia. It is only after this first connection that CIA programming comes into the equation. However the CIA programming comes across as largely a criminal enterprise itself and one that is based upon sexual exploitation. Perhaps the CIA has become so corrupted these day by ex-Nazis within its ranks and the Mafia that this is what is actually taking place.

It also sounds that both you and your family are suffering from electronic harassment. This could include high emf's which can affect human behaviour and cause aches and pains, and with microwaves. This sound you keep getting in the same ear to me suggests that you may have an implant which is receiving, say, microwaves as it is odd your right ear is not affected. A scan could show this up. Also if you invest in a trifield meter which is used in paranormal investigation you can measure both high emf's and microwaves.

It is these latter considerations which leave me thinking that perhaps you are now being used as a human guinea pig by a government backed mind control/electronic harassment project.

galexander
07-10-2009, 05:07 AM
I never meant to suggest that members of your family had implants, I was only suggesting that maybe emf harassment was being used against them which is different from a PASSIVE METALLIC IMPLANT which passively receives microwaves of a given frequency and buzzes in response. This is what could be happening in your ear. I know all this is a bit technical.

I also get the strong impression that these people are just playing with you. Take Darth for example he was just playing with you. Some individuals get a kick out of bullying helpless women and children but what you have to do is stand up to them. In my opinion if you keep screaming, “HELP I’M A VICTIM!! HELP I’M A VICTIM!!” it just plays into their hands. Have you ever thought about going to the police for example?

Personally I recomend you purchase a trifield meter over the internet, turn it into a directional device by covering the rear of the meter in aluminium foil (these meters tend to read on one axis only going from front to back), find out where the electronic harassment is coming from in your neighbourhood and then knock on their door and have it out with them. They won’t believe it when you do that!

If you want to fight for justice then that is exactly what you have to do, you have to make a stand.

BlueAngel
07-10-2009, 05:50 AM
The CIA sponsored mind control programs.

These programs were kept SECRET.

These programs required funding.

How does the CIA fund their BLACK OPERATIONS?

Child pornography is one way.

Drugs is another.

galexander
07-10-2009, 11:14 AM
It appears you have taken the defensive but I was only trying to help. If so many people have already been meddling with your life its probably exceptionally difficult to take any advice at all and I respect your caution entirely. I have to admit I am not an expert in any field at all really.

Saying all these things on this forum is one thing but have you tried contacting any of these help groups that would cater for people in your own situation? Have you contacted Cathy O'Brien for example who has so much in common with yourself and would be only too pleased to listen?

Darth Cacodaemon
07-30-2009, 02:04 PM
I hereby verify that I am the voice in the recordings from decades ago reporting as to MY victimization in MKULTRA/Project Monarch and that I am the person in the video tapes, as well.

Release is granted.

I hereby verify that BlueAngel is my slave now, and forever.

Instead of embracing her Destiny, she has chosen to throw her lot in with the mindless, blind herds of pathetic morons that populate this planet.
As such, she has officially become my slave now, and for eternity as well. As my slave she will carry out my commands faithfully and without complaint.
Her eternal servitude to me is the penalty for having made such poor choices and for having become such a ruined vessel for my Master's plans. All other people are ordered to view her as a pathetic, broken automaton who was so damaged all she could aspire to was her servile status as my slave.
As such, Slave BlueAngle's first task is to find me a worthy Apprentice to replace her. Slave BlueAngel will find said Apprentice and deliver him or her to me and my Master, Lord Lucifer. If she completes this task well, and should said Slave desire it, my Master Lucifer has authorized me to relieve her of the burden of her existensce.

Darth Cacodaemon
08-06-2009, 12:54 PM
QUOTE!

U SHALL BE D______D, FEMALE BIOLOGICAL UNIT 001!

BlueAngel
08-06-2009, 09:55 PM
A DEDICATION TO MY HUSBAND:

I love you, Joe
More than you'll ever know
you opened my eyes
when I couldn't see
you're like the warm, calm waters of the deep blue sea
embracing me
embracing me

I was alone and frightened, but there you stood
straight and silent
in the face of all I knew
you swallowed my fears
helped me rise above
you're the moon, the stars and my only love

When I feel prey
to the predators on BS.net
and the truth I believed were horrible lies
you held me close
never blinked an eye

when I believed
in an altered state
that I had a baby and cut it up
was sent away so I couldn't speak
you held me close and embraced me
like the warm, calm waters of the deep blue sea

you watched me weep while I lay in bed
for days and days and days on end
under my covers, hiding my head
reliving the torture of days gone past
And, as I went hungry, unable to eat
there you stood with two clay feet

you're my rock
you're my sun
you're my moon at night
you're my star
that's forever shining bright
you're like the earth and the dirt under my feet
you're the warm, calm waters of the deep blue sea
embracing me
embracing me

you give me oxygen when I can't breathe
you're my moon
you're my star
you're the wide open sea

you wrap me me up inside your arms
I feel safe, I feel love and I feel calm

you gave me eyes when I couldn't see
you held me tight when I couldn't be

you're my guiding light
you're my strength from within
you're my life, you're my heart
you know where I've been

you're like the deep, blue sea embracing me
the deep, blue sea and all it's warmth
you're a blanket
you're my hope
you're my lucky charm

you're like the deep, blue sea embracing me
embracing me...
embracing me...

BlueAngel
09-09-2009, 08:57 AM
Did the Big Man and Bruce have an affair?
by Chomprat on Sep 07, 2009 7:18 am

I've met someone who claims that the kiss at the end of Thunder Road was not a sign of friendship, but of love. Apparently, Bruce and Clarence were having an affair and this was their way to show it. They had planned to make it public but Jon Landau interfered and told Bruce that it would be a total disaster in terms of public image, So what he did was arranging a fake wedding with a 25 yo model. This very same source claims that Bruce and Clarence continued their secret affair until he became straight again and married Scialfa. This would have been the real reason behind the break-up of the band

Have you heard any of this?Chomprat

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yip rampant man love.

it was a thing of beauty manjbigjed

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If Bruce and Patti are cooling off, could explain why the big man has lost some weight.....alsbbq

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nah manj it's September idots daybigjed

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I always hoped Stevie would be his man, but obviously....Girl in summer clothes

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And for years Bruce would get down on his knees for the C man.Hard2BaSaint

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... but your heart stays cool.
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by 7candles on Sep 07, 2009 10:54 am

Chomprat wrote:
I've met someone who claims that the kiss at the end of Thunder Road was not a sign of friendship, but of love. Apparently, Bruce and Clarence were having an affair and this was their way to show it. They had planned to make it public but Jon Landau interfered and told Bruce that it would be a total disaster in terms of public image, So what he did was arranging a fake wedding with a 25 yo model. This very same source claims that Bruce and Clarence continued their secret affair until he became straight again and married Scialfa. This would have been the real reason behind the break-up of the band

Have you heard any of this?
I'm in love with the queen of the supermarket
As the evening sky turns blue
A dream awaits in aisle number two

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Chomprat wrote:
until he became straight again

Best.
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That's it! Terry in Backstreets MUST be a guy now!"In their music you hear the spirituality as home and as quest. How do you find God unless he's in your heart? In your desire? In your feet?" -- Bruce Springsteen, inducting U2 into the Rock and Roll Hall of Famecarobanano

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Yeah, I had gay friends. The first thing I realized was that everybody's different, and it becomes obvious that all of the gay stereotypes are ridiculous.
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by RCZoch on Sep 07, 2009 11:24 am

SonsOfBeaches wrote:
Yeah, I had gay friends. The first thing I realized was that everybody's different, and it becomes obvious that all of the gay stereotypes are ridiculous.
Bruce Springsteen

I don't know about that. I've known gay guys who could be pretty damn gay.

"Walter did WHAT at the Mansfield show?!?!?!"RCZoch

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match_stick
11-22-2009, 03:01 PM
who was your handler BLUE ANGEL? please tell

EireEngineer
12-22-2009, 07:23 PM
It sounds more like you have tinnitus, and should be seen by a doctor. Its easy to fix.

EireEngineer
12-23-2009, 08:06 PM
It could be that it actually presents all the time, but that you only notice it in a quieter environment, such as at home. Seems far more likely than some directed noise beam whose physics we cant account for.

EireEngineer
12-24-2009, 07:22 AM
Then I suggest that it is psychosomatic, which is still far more likely.

jane doe
12-24-2009, 08:17 AM
Blue Angel, is there a high moisture level in your home?

EireEngineer
12-25-2009, 02:13 PM
Tinnitus of the type you are describing can be mitigated if not eliminated with steroids and wearing ear protection for a few months, as I had to do after a few too many years blowing things up for a living. Chronic tinnitus is indeed virtually uncurable, though studies are going on now for two drugs that have some promise. Maybe you should try one of those? Oh right, I forgot who I was talking too. Drink two homeopathic treatments (aka, glasses of water) and I am sure it will be fine.

jane doe
12-26-2009, 09:58 AM
I don't know.

I haven't measured it lately.

Is there a high moisture level in your home?

Actually, my casket is very dry.

EireEngineer
12-26-2009, 10:39 PM
I am not describing Tinnitus.

I'm describing being targeted with a high-pitched frequency.

I see, first, you say that Tinnitus can be easily fixed.

Now, you say that chronic tinnitus is indeed virtually incurable.

You really do contradict yourself quite frequently.

I assume, since you have experienced Tinnitus, you are to be considered an expert regarding this syndrome.
If you had chronic tinnitus, then you would hear it all the time, so the fact that you dont means that it is not. No contradiction, you just dont read very well sometimes.
And how exactly are they "beaming" this high pitched noise into your head? It has to be under about 20 kHz, or you wouldnt be able to hear it. That rules out any sort of EM induction, so there really are only three possible options: A speaker broadcasting it which you could check for with a simple EM meter, Neurological tinnitus, or psychosomatic tinnitus. The fact that you are leaping to the first option tells me it is probably the latter.

EireEngineer
12-27-2009, 09:42 AM
You can insult me all you want, Eire, but it doesn't affect me.

Seems this is your only defense.

I read very well.

Thus, the reason I am able to point out your glaring contradictions.

Not that they need to be pointed out because they are so glaring.

I have stated over and over again that I am being targeted.

I never stated otherwise, so how can it be that I'm leaping to the first option which this tells you that it's probably the latter make any sense?

Another contradiction.
I think you need to look up contradiction. I was positing possible alternatives that you may not have considered.

Besides, if it's being broadcast, it wouldn't be psychosomatic.

Yet another contradiction.
Obviously if it was being broadcast it would not be psychosomatic, but since you cant posit a method for how it is being beamed into your head, much less a organization that is doing it, or their motivation for doing so, I am stating some alternative theories. That is not a contradiction.

As I said before, thanks for your input, but, just because you believe there are only three possible options, doesn't make it FACT.

Care to explain what an EM induction is?

Can't wait to hear this one.
No, none of the ideas I posted is a fact, obviously, because there is no way that I can test any of them remotely. You do love to distort things out of all recognition.
You can induce sound waves with electromagnetic radiation, but it isnt easy and generally cant be done in the human audible frequency range. It also requires some resonant material, and not the kind that you could discretely implant into someone.

BlueAngel
12-27-2009, 06:17 PM
Since the end of the Second World War the United States Department of Defense has been heavily involved in research and development of sophisticated mind control technology. After the war Nazi Scientists were given immunity for their crimes in return for their knowledge of mind control and psychological torture.

EireEngineer
12-27-2009, 08:01 PM
That's for sure lol. Nor would I ever want that responsibility, especially given the material to work with on this site.

EireEngineer
12-27-2009, 08:04 PM
Ah, Eire, ever hear of the Department of Defense, the US Military or the CIA?
Yes, I have worked for two of the three listed. Next.

EireEngineer
12-27-2009, 08:10 PM
So let me get this straight....the CIA and Defense Dept, who supposedly have the near infinite faculties required to keep a massive conspiracy intact, who have also been working on mind control science for nearly seventy years using occult Nazi technology........and the best they can come up with is a little ear buzzing. Wow....that's some awe inspiring conspiracy there! :D

EireEngineer
12-27-2009, 08:20 PM
Well, when you can provide tangible evidence of it, I will be interested. Till then....

EireEngineer
12-27-2009, 08:36 PM
Oh really? Care to be specific?

Truthbetold
12-28-2009, 06:12 AM
BA, have you read my personal message and tested it? :)

If so, what were the results?

this might be of use to you, its having good effects on me.

Brainwave/Cymatic Frequency Listing (http://www.lunarsight.com/freq.htm)

Truthbetold
12-28-2009, 11:30 AM
Ok, no prob.

I contains a list of frequency and their effect on the human body (delta/theta/beta/alpha pattern-stimulating freqs, and others)

Might be usefull regarding your situation, but you should check out for yourself.

Truthbetold
12-28-2009, 12:39 PM
great, please tell if there is any effect

jane doe
12-28-2009, 03:39 PM
Is there a reference/link for the data posted?

Truthbetold
12-29-2009, 05:12 AM
Let jane doe find the link on her own.

After all, she proclaimed on another thread that she was not going to communicate with me and hoped I would return the favor.

I'm returning it.

she is still looking for herself, since she just another nobody ;)

BA, how did you overcome the omegaprogramming, must have been really hard?

Truthbetold
12-29-2009, 07:41 AM
I'm happy to hear that. I thought the doctors didn't believe in satanic cults?

Truthbetold
12-30-2009, 06:14 AM
i know, but when MKUltra started there was a public outcry for some time... It was called a hoax , and i thought doctors were forbidden to do this kind of deep hypnosis were this truth came out.

jane doe
12-30-2009, 10:23 AM
Ok, no prob.

I contains a list of frequency and their effect on the human body (delta/theta/beta/alpha pattern-stimulating freqs, and others)

Might be usefull regarding your situation, but you should check out for yourself.

Is there a link for this information?:)

jane doe
12-30-2009, 10:24 AM
she is still looking for herself, since she just another nobody ;)



Right-o.:rolleyes: Some dead people actually keep their body, fwiw.

EireEngineer
01-01-2010, 07:57 AM
Well...you could try building yourself a Faraday Cage. That should eliminate anything that "they" are doing.

Truthbetold
01-01-2010, 02:42 PM
Right-o.:rolleyes: Some dead people actually keep their body, fwiw.
you're talking about Reincarnation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reincarnation)?

jane doe
01-02-2010, 08:27 AM
you're talking about Reincarnation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reincarnation)?

yea. :) or zombies, or vampires..hummm. many day of the dead survivors.

Truthbetold
01-02-2010, 08:37 AM
yea. :) or zombies, or vampires..hummm. many day of the dead survivors.
ah, you seem to know a lot more then you let shine through :D

EireEngineer
01-02-2010, 04:32 PM
Targeting me, my family members and anyone else with your weapons is a crime and a form of torture.

You will be held accountable.

-------------------------------------------------------

Could not sleep last night.

High pitched frequency non-stop in both ears.

Last time I was subjected to this form of torture, I was in solitary confinement and a victim of MKULTRA/Project Monarch.

I will survive YOUR present day harrassment because I am a survivor, only, this time, I will have MY day in court.
Right, like courts ever apply to secret agencies.

BlueAngel
01-02-2010, 10:43 PM
http://image3.examiner.com/images/blog/EXID30616/images/large_obam.jpg
Two no-talent hypocrites
Image source: AP

Truthbetold
01-03-2010, 04:54 AM
Yeah.

I'm going to build myself a Faraday cage.

I've enlisted my husband's help so we'll be busy for a while.

Faraday cage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_cage)


good luck holding of the frequencies with that ;)

EireEngineer
01-09-2010, 10:22 PM
good luck holding of the frequencies with that ;)
If you build it air tight the way you are supposed to, then the suppression is independent of frequency.

By the way, hows that ban coming along? Im still here. See you next tuesday.

Truthbetold
01-10-2010, 05:39 AM
If you build it air tight the way you are supposed to, then the suppression is independent of frequency.

By the way, hows that ban coming along? Im still here. See you next tuesday.


It cannot hold of the earths magnetic field or any other extremely low freqs, so you can only shield of high harmfull freqencies:)

EireEngineer
01-10-2010, 10:50 AM
It cannot hold of the earths magnetic field or any other extremely low freqs, so you can only shield of high harmfull freqencies:)
Where are you from? Your English is pretty good.

Truthbetold
01-10-2010, 11:47 AM
Holland, and thanks for the compliment ;)

Most stuff on the internet is in english in my studybooks are 2 so

EireEngineer
01-11-2010, 11:43 AM
Ahhh.....So that's why they call him "The Boss"! :D

EireEngineer
01-11-2010, 08:24 PM
Im sure there is. Its in his book. Make sure you say "Hi" to Clarence for me the next time y'all get together for a ho-down. Sorry, I meant:D a hoedown.

EireEngineer
01-13-2010, 12:07 AM
Say what?
I figured that since you have such a close relationship to Bruce Springsteen, that you would surely know who Clarence was? My mistake, I should have known better.

Oh, and he got the name "The Boss" because it was his job to divide the cash up when they were still a gig band.

Truthbetold
01-13-2010, 03:03 AM
I'm a little bit in the dark here... who was/is Clarence one of your alters of the past, BA?

Truthbetold
01-13-2010, 08:47 AM
Oh, please.

Yeah.

Clarence, is one of my alters of the past.

Try GOOGLING the "E Street Band."

I don't have time for your nonsense.


no need to get so sarcastic, I never listened to bruce springsteen or the E street band. Well before my time...

Truthbetold
01-13-2010, 11:37 AM
because?

EireEngineer
01-13-2010, 06:00 PM
I don't have a close relationship to Springsteen and it is very odd that you would think that I did.

I didn't imply that I was unaware of who Clarence was.

I asked you to explain your comment about in "his" book and say "hi" to Clarence the next time you get together for a hoedown.

But, as per usual, you are again dodging the original question only to answer with something that is unrelated.

Seems to be your MO.

YAWN!

I'm aware of the back-story as to how Springsteen acquired the handle, "The Boss."

You're not "The Boss" of me and you never will be.
You brought it on yourself, saying that Springsteen was your "handler", whatever that means. In the espionage arena, Handler refers to someone in direct control of an asset, and that implies a close relationship.
And it was quite obvious who the "his" in "his book" was, but you do love to confuse the topic. See you next tuesday. lol

Truthbetold
01-14-2010, 04:06 AM
because I don't have alters from the past.

Pardon the sarcasm.
Im sorry, didnt mean to upset you :)

EireEngineer
01-14-2010, 09:28 PM
Then I think you are misusing the term handler. We will have to come up with a better term for it.

Truthbetold
01-16-2010, 04:14 AM
Then I think you are misusing the term handler. We will have to come up with a better term for it.

is it fun turning words around?

EireEngineer
01-16-2010, 10:15 PM
It seems to be for some people. Next she will claim she never used the term.:D

Truthbetold
01-17-2010, 08:23 AM
It seems to be for some people. Next she will claim she never used the term.:D

you may either just be ignorant or not worthy to walk this earth

Truthbetold
01-17-2010, 09:20 AM
No he is either ignorant, for knowing what this topic is about and still turning words around.

Or he is one of the people on the first page under another pseudonym, and he knows full well what's he is doing, therefore making this world a sad place instead of a better place, making him not worth his time here.

This is just my point of view, you or he may look totally different at it :)

EireEngineer
01-17-2010, 09:53 AM
So when sombody says that "Bruce Springsteen was my handler", what does that imply or mean to you?

Truthbetold
01-17-2010, 10:14 AM
oke, i know enough

EireEngineer
01-19-2010, 03:20 PM
So you are in fact saying that Bruce Springsteen, or others, were controlling your actions trough some means, presumably through his music? Out of curiosity.....how exactly?

Deffmaybe
01-24-2010, 12:43 AM
I cant believe this thread has so many pages!!

Why is everyone humoring this head case? Come on man!!

I thought id come on here and read some educated conversations about conspiracy theories, not that this guy was bumming MJ God rest his soul

Your story is fairytale mate. I know it and you know it

This is beyond ludicrous

YOUR MENTAL!!!!!!

EireEngineer
01-28-2010, 10:19 PM
Anyone know if there are any "restraining orders" against Bruce Springsteen?
I thought he was your "handler"? Shouldnt you know?:p

EireEngineer
01-28-2010, 10:21 PM
High pitched frequency in left ear continues with occassional zapping.

Affecting several organs.

This is a form of torture and YOU will be held accountable for the crimes you perpetrated upon me and countless others; past and present.
Whats this "zapping" you are referring to? Pennys in sockets will do that to you every time!

Truthbetold
01-29-2010, 12:41 AM
BA, this site might interest you.

A Current US Program Of Involuntary Human Experimentation (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_mindcon17.htm)
(maybe they shed some more light on whats happening)

EireEngineer
01-29-2010, 11:57 PM
Kind of funny that the very first thing on that site is nonsense about chemtrails, but I will have a look.

Truthbetold
01-30-2010, 05:17 AM
I'd like to start a thread titled, "Human Experimentation," and provide the link and text in that thread that truthbetold supplied, but I'm having a hard time deciding under which forum it belongs.

Any suggestions?

science would be most suited I think, science can build up things, but can also have a very dark side when there is moral ethics applied.

EireEngineer
01-31-2010, 01:59 AM
First of all, female is a sex, not a species no matter what you hear at your NAG, opps I meant NOW, meetings.

And no, I am very far from being a misogynist, however I will admit to not being a fan of ignorant, petty numbskulls.

EireEngineer
01-31-2010, 06:28 PM
So how exactly was Bruce your handler? Oh right, you probably got turned on listening to his music, and because of extensive LSD usage, concocted this story to make yourself feel better.

EireEngineer
02-01-2010, 01:10 AM
So scared. Since you seem to be following me to every post I make, it looks like you are the troll.

Truthbetold
02-02-2010, 08:22 AM
I'm suprised you endured him for so long :)

BlueAngel
02-04-2010, 12:59 AM
Oh, Joe,

You in my arms
me in your embrace
telling you everything
and you standing in one place

Crying and sobbing about what they did
you picking me up and helping me to live

showing me sunshine when I saw nothing but rain
showing me hope when I felt nothing put pain

picking me up when I couldn't walk
making me speak when I couldn't talk

you were my light
when I could only see
the torture in a cell

of a small body that was once me

derpived and degraded
starved and curled up

cold and lying naked
unable to sip from a cup

weak and dying
without any strength

a shell of myself in a dark and rank place

memories of my childhood
abuse I cannot explain

tortured, experimented on and a life full of pain

but, there you were
you showed me love
you helped me to rise to rise above

you gave me everything
that I never thought I would have

a life beyond them
a life full of US
a marriage, three children
and most of all trust

I love you, Joe.

Yours truly,
BlueAngel

Lovie
02-06-2010, 11:53 PM
So did you know springsteen personally?

Truthbetold
02-07-2010, 06:44 AM
read back and refrain from asking questions and statements that make no sense (here and in other topics)

Lovie
02-07-2010, 10:16 AM
I was just asking a question..I read most of the thread..
why should I refrain from asking questions that DO clearly apply.
Blue angel is going on and on about springsteen..I just wanted to know if she had even met him..
Gees whats with the aggro?
I don't know what she means by handler.

Truthbetold
02-08-2010, 01:02 AM
since your kinda aggressive towards people that are trying to help you wont have to, I really dont care anymore

jane doe
02-08-2010, 06:34 PM
worth repeating. lovely, Blue.

Oh, Joe,

You in my arms
me in your embrace
telling you everything
and you standing in one place

Crying and sobbing about what they did
you picking me up and helping me to live

showing me sunshine when I saw nothing but rain
showing me hope when I felt nothing put pain

picking me up when I couldn't walk
making me speak when I couldn't talk

you were my light
when I could only see
the torture in a cell

of a small body that was once me

derpived and degraded
starved and curled up

cold and lying naked
unable to sip from a cup

weak and dying
without any strength

a shell of myself in a dark and rank place

memories of my childhood
abuse I cannot explain

tortured, experimented on and a life full of pain

but, there you were
you showed me love
you helped me to rise to rise above

you gave me everything
that I never thought I would have

a life beyond them
a life full of US
a marriage, three children
and most of all trust

I love you, Joe.

Yours truly,
BlueAngel

Truthbetold
02-09-2010, 04:15 AM
One more comment.

Since the inception of CC, there exists on this forum a very large population of members whose only agenda on this site is to post disinformation; cause interference; harrass and attempt to trigger/alter me and/or or expect me to agree with every ridiculous conspiracy they post in an effort to discredit me.

I will say it again.

I cannot be discredited.

The evidence speaks for itself.

People who supposedly were helping me in the past when a victim of MKULTRA/Project Monarch and in the not so distant past when on Springsteen's site turned out to be perpetrators, so, yes, I am aggressive.

It saved my life from the CULT when I was a child and assisted me in maintaining my psychological, mental, and emotional state of mind when I feel back into Springsteen's hands and the other mind controllers on his site and to avert the PSYCHOTIC BREAK the perpetrators so desire, but will never attain.

Being agressive has also helped me to keep control of my own mind.

Past and present.

So, yes, I am aggressive and I consider it an asset.

And you have every right to be, The wrongly quoted message of Prunerman seemed a bit odd I know.

And yes, I'm worried the video is a new way to brainwash the Monarchslaves still under control.
I recently read this page

WIZARD OF OZ and the ILLUMINATI MIND CONTROL (http://www.apfn.org/apfn/oz.htm)

and the video seemed just a little to bit to much like a script written after everything explained there.

jane doe
02-09-2010, 05:11 AM
BlueAngel, I hope your experience is over with the Springsteen site. Going back to an abusive relationship is unhealthy. Rereading your poem and learniing about your internet abuse..isn't that too much power you give your husband over yourself?

Lovie
02-09-2010, 08:28 PM
what do you mean by handler ?
Is it common for handlers and mind control victims not to know each other?

Okay after doing some research on MC..the stories that these people tell seem a bit unbelievable.
Im sorry for saying you were a vicious bitch BA.
I just don't know, part of me wants to believe its true and part of me wants to believe it's not true.

Lovie
02-13-2010, 03:13 PM
I'm going to explain this one last time.

A HANDLER/CONTROLLER of a mind control victim is able to alter the state of mind of their SLAVE through the use of codes, keys, commands/triggers, etc.

Through the use of these codes, keys, commands/triggers, etc., the handler/controller is able to access all five levels of programming of their SLAVE; therefore affecting the state of mind of their victim psychologically, emotionally and mentally.

In this way, the HANDLER is also able to retrieve alters that are used for various purposes; illegal and otherwise.

In this respect, an unhealthy, abusive interaction exists between SLAVE and OWNER(s) and HANDLER/CONTROLLER(s), because POWER and CONTROL belongs to the HANDLER(s) as the victim is void of free will.

Hence, the words MIND CONTROL.

Thanks for clearing that up.
I was reading from a website here Mind Control-The Ultimate Terror (http://www.educate-yourself.org/mc/)
about how the cell phone towers aren't really towers. but rather mind control towers.
how do we protect ourselves from mind control?

upagainstit
02-17-2010, 11:09 AM
Read to page 49 so far of your thread.
Where I'm making this comment from.

Always thought the way the lyrics of songs were written,
had to do with the "audience" the music world was catering to.

What you go on about in your thread, puts it in a different light.
The light you put it in, is quite "believable".
Never noticed of my own and no doubt never would have.

You mention that these "popular stars" are from having been
in the same boat as yourself and others.

In general you appear to understand thier plight.

It's obvious, however, that you are singling one out in particular.
You have no place in your understanding for this person, unlike the others.

You say it's because of how you see him in particular, in relation to you.

These others would also be seen in relation, in particular, to other victims.
Yet you "vent" yourself at this one person, and "somewhat side" with
these others, like you see thier plight in what has gone on.

You seem to be immersed in yourself with this one person in particular
from appears to be "altering" states of mind.
Obviously you want to hang on to your thoughts in such direction.

So far, in particular, I'm saying: you are fixated on this one person,
from your victimised stance, not having this same view of the others,
even though there would be someone else there that was victimised.
(seeing them, as yourself, as all in the same boat)

upagainstit
02-17-2010, 05:01 PM
At the end of page 74 in this thread now.

You mention periodically that you are "remembering" your past,
to do with what has gone on with you.

I'm wondering, because of your past not known to you, prior to later on:
if your day to day life was full of blackouts OR
did you have false memories, of life as you knew it,
to take the place of your hidden memories
of what was going on with you?

jane doe
02-17-2010, 05:18 PM
At the end of page 74 in this thread now.

You mention periodically that you are "remembering" your past,
to do with what has gone on with you.



past lives??

upagainstit
02-17-2010, 05:53 PM
past lives??

The past lives that you are questioning
would be the years gone by
from earlier years of late
that BA is now remembering.

upagainstit
02-18-2010, 12:45 AM
Who would be the someone else there that you say was victimized?

Sorry, been busy making my way through this thread.
Didn't overlook your question though.

Thought it would be evident in the first post I made here.
Was thinking you would re-read it, 'till you would know.

The others that it refers to would be, who-ever else was a victim.
Meaning, is not taken that you were the only one,
that "fell" into their hands and were victimised by them.

Was expecting you to realize it in the post after you asked.
Sorry.
on page 103 now

upagainstit
02-18-2010, 01:01 AM
As I said:

I have made it very clear in this thread what happened to me when I was a child and a victim of MKULTRA/Project Monarch and used in the music industry as a sex slave and for other criminal activities all courtesy of the CIA.

I don't need anyone, specifically, Jane Doe, a self-pronounced psychic, suggesting that she or anyone else has an alternative theory as to what occurred in my young life and I don't need YOU and Jane Doe engaging in conversation amongst one another on this thread as to what you believe I experienced.

I know what happened to me.

If you don't have anything of value to add to this thread regarding mind control, I suggest that you refrain from posting on it.

Thanking you in advance for your cooperation,
BA

You sound like Jane Doe has already made an impression on you. I don't know her any.

Jane Doe directed the question to me. So, I answered it.

You obviously are "out of my league" with your forum presence. I am well behind one of your stature.

However, when one poster directs a question to another poster, no matter whos' thread it's in, they converse.

You could very well be out of place
responding to Jane Doe's post.

upagainstit
02-18-2010, 04:46 AM
This ? was yours not mine. Could be my post wasn't outright clear AND
I possibly didn't read your ? quite right:

BA asked "who is the someone else"?
Someone else = victim/victims (not known by name)
of these other handlers/controllers.
(your question not mine)

Someone else also = "each" of the victims, not "all" lumped together.

I asked about blackouts because:
while you were at the mercy of the handlers/controllers
"the amount of time" that was taken up during your ordeal
would have to be taken out from ---- your day to day life.

Was wondering if there were periods of "missing time",
as you proceeded with your life.
(because of your recalling it having happened, seemingly later in life)


BA: Jane Doe hasn't made an impression on me or anyone else.
Well, maybe you.

You appear to be picking at words here AND insinuating.

BA: Unless you have something pertinent to add to the topic of
mind control, kindly refrain from engaging in useless chatter with
Jane Doe or anyone else on this thread or any thread on this forum.

Have encountered your posts all over this forum and you, notice-ably,
do not follow your own advice.
It must have been "useless" chatter, only, in your eyes AND we have
nothing going on between us.

BA: What happened to me....and I'm not in need of any anonymous
posters....asserting they know better than myself.

Never asserted that I know better than you about your experiences.
Posts are subject to the interpreter. Not your "absolute" perogative.

BA: My response to Jane Does' post was not out of place.
You, however, are out of place for insinuating such.

Seemed like forum etiquette to me.



Please refrain from picking posts' apart TO twist around.
No "need" for us to debate this statement.


I am trying to comprehend your experience that you are "pain-stakingly"
being informative about to others.

Thanks for bringing - What happened to you - Out in the open.
I find it to be an "eye-opener".

You started this thread BUT readers of it, will post in it.
Not "outright subject" to your interpretation of these posts.
There ARE lots of posts in threads that appear to be needless.
(mostly we grin and bare it, some liven things up though)

No doubt, upagainstit and Jane Doe, felt their post was uncalled for.
You, BlueAngel, however: your remarks were not in line.
Obviously, not ALL of BlueAngels' remarks, were out of line,
BUT the ones that were, were noticeable.

You will find my contribution to this forum,
in the story of my life, that I tell:
Social Oppression (http://upagainstit-s-o.blogspot.com/)
it's also in the "introduction" section.
Thread is called: Life As I Know It.
Suggestion: go from first to last entry when you get to the blog.

BlueAngels' life experience and mine are not the same.
However, we both found out later, that something was going on with us.
I became aware of "WHAT'S" going on from 1983 to the present.

Warning: BlueAngel writes "a lot" better than I do.

jane doe
02-18-2010, 10:55 AM
BA: Unless you have something pertinent to add to the topic of
mind control, kindly refrain from engaging in useless chatter with
Jane Doe or anyone else on this thread or any thread on this forum.

Expressing, indeed.

upagainstit
02-20-2010, 02:43 AM
Made it through this thread
from the start of it.
Just finished.

Will be back with my review.

upagainstit
02-20-2010, 03:48 AM
IN RETROSPECT:

Almost 500 pages to this thread.

Sped my way through from page 170 and on.

Up until page 170, read each post.

Looking back, reading up to page 100
will give you the "gist" of
BlueAngels' experience.

Pages 100 on to the end almost
is mostly ranting and raving in
quantity and lacks more quality.

Around page 470 the topic of this thread
appears to be gotten away from
even by BlueAngel her/his self.


Warning:

Pages in the 130 to 140 range:
posters mention pictures here
BlueAngel somewhat "jumps" in
saying the matter will be taken care of.
Not once but twice, the pictures are still there.
The second set of pictures,
is probably the ones they are referring to.
However, the first set - shown twice,
one other time earlier than this,
seem to have no basis to be there.

I suspect BlueAngel has more than, one username.

Posts by BlueAngel between 140 to 170:
seem to be on somekind of "tyrade".
I was "alarmed" at that time.
However: fears appear to be unfounded.

Posts around 340 maybe a little earlier and on:
there is increased interaction between
members of this forum and BlueAngel.

Prior to then this thread is heavy on
BlueAngels', something like "documentary".

BlueAngel appears to be tiring of the thread
around December 2008 to January 2009.
From Jan 2009 to today the time
taken up by the thread, speeds up.


OPINION TIME:

BlueAngel states the time of this ordeal,
experience by her/him, started
shortly after the 9/11 of 2001.
When the incident of the
World Trade Center twin towers occurred.

That would date the remembrance of things
by BlueAngel around 2002.

Nearest I could figure BlueAngel was born
around 1956 in June.
The memories start to unfold around 2002.
(maybe a month or two before)

Apparently the 9/11 of 2001 incident,
triggered something in BlueAngel,
real or imagined(?).

Prior to 2002, BlueAngel, seems
to have frequented "rock concerts"
of her "pet peeve".

However: BlueAngel states in the thread,
that the idea, that unfolds here in the thread,
was taken to - more "media" attention means.
The "medias" approached, did not accept.

BlueAngels' life apart from this forum that
is retold "of", by her/him,
ends up - lacking credibility.

The way BlueAngel handles this ordeal,
is "reminiscent" of the way
"psychics" are portrayed on TV and in movies.

Speaking from my own experience, which started in 1983,
such "over-whelmed" by emotionally set back,
when these "memories" are replayed in oneself,
subsides later on: so "continually" taken with
these "experiences" after a while,
no longer "exist" in such way.
In my own case it would go Aug to Oct of 1983
to the early 1990's. Not endlessly on still,
even though this still goes on with me, to this date.

BlueAngel states in this thread, that
what is relayed here to us
was an "idea" that was taken to
more "revealing" far and wide, media.
Seemingly before the memories started around 2002.

Something that was seen by BlueAngel
in the lyrics of songs, that
BlueAngel could go on about.

BlueAngel has gone on and on.....
about it, in this thread.

Lots of quantity, short on "quality".

However, BlueAngels' demeanor, needs to be adrressed.

BlueAngel appears to have "gaslighter", tendencies.
Probably doesn't go to the "possessing" extent.
BlueAngel "wants" to have it on you, in such way, though.

There were some posters that BlueAngel couldn't handle.
Appears to be because, BlueAngel,
couldn't "see" the poster, from his/her post.
The only reason I can see for BlueAngel
being "visibly" upset, by Leonardo.

OVERALL:
BlueAngel, "spun"; a good "yarn".
What was written about, is quite believable.

BlueAngels' experience in life,
past and present,
lacks credibility
directly applicable to BlueAngel.

jane doe
02-20-2010, 05:04 PM
edited :)

Lovie
02-20-2010, 11:16 PM
I think springsteen sucks..I think I may have liked 2 of his songs MAYBE.. If I had a handler, It must be Jeff Lynne..but, I'd probably enjoy that

upagainstit
02-23-2010, 05:30 AM
Firstly, your opinion regarding my victimization in MKULTRA/Project Monarch and what I've written in this thread about it doesn't matter and I have no clue why you think that it would.

Secondly, I am the MODERATOR of this forum and I suggest that you refrain from rendering yet another lame opinion that you suspect I have more than one username or you will no longer have a username on this forum.

Thirdly, your life experience and my life experience have nothing in common.

Not "subject" to your approval BlueAngel.
Another persons' comment is another persons' comment.

Not dependant on a "pat on the head" from you.

A lot of your remarks to people are blatantly off.

Think your comments through in the future BlueAngel.
Off the cuff - doesn't suffice between the ears.

Is no secret you are - clout happy.
Abusive of your "super moderator" status under your username.

Concentrate BlueAngel - you are not a guiding light to me.

jane doe
02-23-2010, 09:22 AM
Kindly leave this forum of your own free will or I'll show you the door.

I apologize for posting on your thread, but I don't have a personal message option. Can you explain why? I've never attacked you, criticized you or broken any forum rules. I'll even edit this post if you like. :)

upagainstit
02-23-2010, 09:41 AM
I apologize for posting on your thread, but I don't have a personal message option. Can you explain why? I've never attacked you, criticized you or broken any forum rules. I'll even edit this post if you like. :)

BlueAngel is just trying to be intimidative.
For the most part BlueAngel can be ignored.

jane doe
02-23-2010, 09:48 AM
Posts such as the following are not welcome on this forum.

Originally Posted by jane doe http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/images/clubconspiracy/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/f22/mind-control-music-industry-4429-post65231.html#post65231)
Lost is a post by the Angel in Blue.
lost is the post from the map's interpretation.
Found is the mental zoo.
found is the mental masturbation of you.

So, is it the poetry, or the lack of rhyme, the use of your name, the use of words...please, in order for me to modify my behavior, I need to know specifics to do so. My brain lacks external-control, thus you have to be very specific to have control over me.

dayof...
03-03-2010, 05:27 PM
Who would have known, that these things go on in the world.
What lays ahead?

dayof...
03-04-2010, 04:25 PM
BlueAngel is blind and full of rage.

BlueAngel is the only one that ticks.

BlueAngel will discount statements of others.

BlueAngels' discounting statements of others is
meaningless.

BlueAngel doesn't debunk.

BlueAngel simply closes up and ignores anything but BlueAngel.

Hold yourself BlueAngel, hold yourself.

oneview
03-12-2010, 04:45 PM
Earlier on when I was reading this thread:

there was a post, wanting to know
about a song, to do with "carousel", in it.

Couldn't remember the title at that time.

Have now remembered it:
called - For Whom The Bell Tolls
group - Bee Gees

jane doe
03-13-2010, 07:13 AM
Have now remembered it:
called - For Whom The Bell Tolls
group - Bee Gees
That song reflects the ripping of my heart, as well..now I'm crying.effin' mourning my own death.

Lovie
03-13-2010, 07:44 AM
that song doesn't have carousel in it..
and its about lost love not death..

oneview
03-13-2010, 07:54 AM
that song doesn't have carousel in it..
and its about lost love not death..

My mistake:

Saved by the Bell
Bee Gees

Correct title instead.

FallaciesAbound
04-26-2010, 01:01 AM
She hardly "disappeared", but her status as a C list actress has gotten her a few gigs, and she has been modeling.

And celebrities, because of the nature of their business, are often granted non-disclosure agreements about sensitive details of a divorce. Not sure if thats what happened in this case, but I bet its a mis-representation to call it a "gag order".

FallaciesAbound
04-26-2010, 03:10 PM
I suppose, but I like to be precise. Too many years flying ILS approaches I guess. So what has Springsteen supposedly done to you exactly? The thread is kind of disjointed.

FallaciesAbound
04-26-2010, 09:58 PM
not really. saw something about him being your handler, and something about EM waves, which can effect people under the right circumstances, but cant figure out Bruce's roll in the whole thing.

FallaciesAbound
04-27-2010, 08:00 AM
Oh well, I'm not going to dig though 400 pages of silliness to try to figure out why someone thinks a musician is out to get them. Especially one as crappy as Bruce Springsteen. Give me Iggy Pop or Social Distortion any day lol.

The Poet
04-29-2010, 02:32 PM
Oh well, I'm not going to dig though 400 pages of silliness to try to figure out why someone thinks a musician is out to get them. Especially one as crappy as Bruce Springsteen. Give me Iggy Pop or Social Distortion any day lol.


YouTube - GENERAL HOSPITAL two women in straitjackets

YouTube - GENERAL HOSPITAL Jane Elliot in straitjacket

YouTube - "All Women Are Bad" -- The Straightjacket

YouTube - Lobotomy - PBS documentary, on Walter Freeman

superted
04-30-2010, 09:35 AM
FallaciesAbound - in the first page blueangel states she was a sex slave for old brucey. I read onto page two but yea it gets a little weird so I stopped. All a little odd to say the least.

FallaciesAbound
05-01-2010, 09:09 AM
So, how is it that you know EM waves can effect people under the right circumstances?

If you can't figure out your friend, Bruce's role in the whole thing, I suggest you ask him since you're on a first name basis.

Well, if you stick someone in a microwave, they will cook, so its pretty obvious that radiations could have SOME effect. Whether or not you can do mind control or even harass someone with them is another story.

And im sure lots of women were his sex slaves....they are called groupies or band aids lol

The Poet
05-03-2010, 01:20 PM
So, how is it that you know EM waves can effect people under the right circumstances?

If you can't figure out your friend, Bruce's role in the whole thing, I suggest you ask him since you're on a first name basis.


For BlueAngel:

YouTube - Black Sabbath "Paranoid" Music Video


Finished with my woman
'Cause she couldn't help me with my mind
People think I'm insane
Because I am frowning all the time

All day long I think of things
But nothing seems to satisfy
Think I'll lose my mind
If I don't find something to pacify

Can you help me occupy my brain?
Oh yeah!

I need someone to show me
The things in life that I can't find
I can't see the things that make true happiness
I must be blind

Make a joke and I will sigh
And you will laugh and I will cry
Happiness I cannot feel
And love to me is so unreal

And so as you hear these words
Telling you now of my state
I tell you to enjoy life
I wish I could but it's too late

YouTube - Cypress Hill - Insane In The Brain

Lyrics to Insane In The Brain :
Who you tryin to get crazy with ese?
Don't you know I'm loco?


To da one on da flamboyant tip
I'll just toss that ham in the fryin pan
like spam, get done when I come and slam
Damn, I feel like the Son of Sam
Don't make me wreck shit, hectic
Next get the chair got me goin like General Electric
Annnd, the lights are blinkin I'm thinkin
It's all over when I go out drinkin
Ohh, makin my mind slow
That's why I don't fuck with the big four-oh
Bro, I got ta' maintain
Cause a nigga like me is [B]goin insane

[Chorus]
Insane in da membrane.. insane in da brain!
Insane in da membrane.. insane in da brain!
Insane in da membrane.. crazy insane, got no brain!
Insane in da membrane.. insane in da brain!

[Sen Dog]
Do my shit undercover now it's time for the blubba
blabber, to watch that belly get fatter
Fat boy on a diet, don't try it
I'll jack yo' ass like a looter in a riot
My shit's fat, like a sumo, slammin dat ass
Leavin yo' face in the grass
Cause you know, I don't take a duro, lightly
Punks just jealous cause they can't outwrite me
or kick that style, wicked, wild
Happy face nigga never seen me smile
Rip dat main=frame, I'll explain
A nigga like me is goin insane

[Chorus]


YouTube - Slayer - Criminally Insane (studio version)


Night will come and I will follow
For my victims, no tomorrow
Make it fast, your time of sorrow
On his trail, I'll make you follow

Quarters for the criminally insane
The sentence read for life I must remain
The path I chose has led me to my grave
To try again I'd have no other way

Quarters for the criminally insane
Escape for me has fast become a game
Soon to be, I'll leave without a trace
Endangered species end the human race

(lead: hanneman, king)

Branded in pain
Marked criminally insane
Locked away and kept restrained
Disapprobation, but what have I done
I have yet only just begun
To take your fuckin' lives!

[night will come and I will follow
For my victims, no tomorrow
Make it fast, your time of sorrow
On his trail, I'll make you follow]
More lyrics: Slayer lyrics (http://www.lyricsty.com/lyrics/s/slayer/#share)


{*DJ Muggs cuts and scratches*}

[B-Real]
Like Louie Armstrong, played the trumpet
I'll hit that bong and break ya off somethin soon
I got ta get my props
Cops, come and try to snatch my crops
These pigs wanna blow my house down
Head underground, to the next town
They get mad when they come to raid my pad
and I'm out in the nine-deuce Cad
Yes I'm the pirate, pilot
of this ship if I get with the ultraviolet dream
Hide from the red light beam
Now do you believe in the unseen?
Look, but don't make you eyes strain
A nigga like me is goin insane

[Chorus]

The Poet
05-07-2010, 10:52 AM
Sorry, pal, but your ascertain that I'm insane couldn't be any farther from the truth, but, I suspect you might be insane based upon your posts on this thread and elsewhere on the forum.

Do you seriously think that because you repeat over and over again that you believe I'm insane, makes it so?


Of course not. I base my assertion on the fact that your obsessed with Bruce Springsteen and that you obviously believe that he did something to you. When your story is examined, it is clear that is based on delusions and serious distortions in thought. Ergo, you are a person suffering from some sort of mental illness. Why? Because Bruce Springsteen is simply a musician. Yes, I am sure he has many groupies, but I doubt he has ever had sex slaves. You have never offered any proof to back that assertion. My conclusion is that you have NO proof. Thus, I have more reason to believe you are mentally ill then a liar.

Just so you know, it doesn't.

Only a PIG would respond on this thread as you have, but you're not the first PIG to do so.

Here again we see the typical response of a person suffering from a delusion. I would expect you to respondin this way, since in your deluded state you HONESTLY believe this. Do I believe you were molested in the past? Yes, I could totally believe that. Do I believe you may have been mistreated, perhaps raped by some animal in the past? Absolutely I would be open to believe that. I simply believe that in your chemically imbalanced brain, you have distorted the truth and now have focesed it all on Bruce Springsteen. Sad, but true.
Do I believe oyu have issues? Absolutely. But your issues isn;t with Bruce Springsteen. Is it possible you slept with Bruce Springsteen as a groupie, and now in your deluded state you believe something more nefarious happened? Absolutely. But unless you can offer some evidence to back your extraordinary claim, it is more logical to believe you are a person suffering from some form of mental illness needing treatement then your story.
Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence to support them. Either offer such evidence or accept that any rational, lucid and non-mentally ill person will not accept your ludicrous statements. It's just that simple.
Ad hominem attacks do not do anything to support your claims, either.

Gee, I wonder why PIGS like you even bother.

Yeah, it's a mystery.

Those who abused me are crazy and you, my friend, appear to be in their league.
Yes, those who abuse were crazy..and evil. But they were NOT Bruce Springsteen or the government. I assume that the trauma of the abuse has unhinged your mind and made you delusional. I certainly hope you receive intensive counseling so that you may overcome the abuse amd be returned to mental health.
Abuse is a terrible thing, and I am sure the individuals who did it to you are evil individuals. But again, extaordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence to prove they are true. I find it easier to believe oyu were molested by family members or people you knew, and that the trauma has unhinged your mind then that some nefarious government agency btrainwashed you or that you were Bruce Springsteens sex slave.
May I suggest that you work with a therapist and deal with the REAL issues? I believe you are obsessed with Bruce Springsteen because you are trying to hide the truth from yourself. Statistics would indicate that either a family member or some one you knew abused you, more then likely. Perhaps once you deal with your issues with a professional you may be able to return to reality. I don't really know.

Ain't my fault crazy people did crazy things to me.

True. Evil people do evil things. It isn't even your fault that, in your deluded state, you blame Bruce Springsteen. However, you have the choice whether to embrace your sickness or receive proffessional help. If you choose not to, that IS your fault.

So, whose the crazy one now?

You are. Any sane, rational person will disbelieve you and instantly recognize that you are a sick, mentally ill woman. ANYONE. The only one who belives what you say is you. Everyone else recognizes your story as a delusion.
Are you insane? It is hard to say. I believe you have been so abused by others you are borderline. I can hope that with medicine and therapy you can become rational and sane again though.

The Poet
05-07-2010, 11:00 AM
FallaciesAbound - in the first page blueangel states she was a sex slave for old brucey. I read onto page two but yea it gets a little weird so I stopped. All a little odd to say the least.

Yes, Blue Angel is mentally ill. Please do not support her in her delusions. You see, IMHO, she was abused but in her deluded state believes it had something to do with Bruce Springsteen.
Like most mentally ill people with a fixed delusion, she is quite rational when discussing other things. However, she does truly believe this. The best thing we can do is humor her and hope she receives the proper mefdication and therapy she needs to return to sanity.

The Poet
05-07-2010, 03:22 PM
You are delusional in that you believe your opinion about me is relevant.

Sorry, BlueAngel. I would say MOST people who heard this story you tell would conclude that you suffer from some kind of disorder.
As for my opinion being relevant, I really don't care if YOU believe it is or not. I would be suprised if you did. Most delusional people get angry when some disagrees with their delusion or points out how nonsensical it is. So I am not suprised at all that you feel this way.
I certainly hope some day a mental health proffessional can help you. IMHO, you need it. Not because you are a danger to anyone or yourself, but because you obviously have deep issues you need to deal with.

FallaciesAbound
05-07-2010, 06:54 PM
My guess is that she will never seek help though, since any sort of therapeutic treatment would be percieved by her as further abuse. So she is doomed to keep this loop running in her head, but fortunately it seems to have not caused her too much damage. Yet.

BlueAngel
05-07-2010, 11:39 PM
Well, now I know.

Barbarien was COLD, The Devil, IGNT and THEM.

What a disgusting pig.

I thought there was a member by the name of The DEVIL, but I can't find him anywhere or, perhaps, it was that Barbarien, as COLD, signed his comments as THE Devil and that's what I'm remembering.

In either event, The Devil and COLD made some very disgusting comments about me.

If The Devil existed, most likely he was Barbarien, as well, or the comments I'm remembering were posted by COLD and signed as The Devil.

Unusual, isn't it?

People on this forum making disgusting comments about me.

FallaciesAbound
05-08-2010, 02:45 PM
What a most ridiculous comment.

FallaciesAbound says that she's DOOMED to keep this LOOP running in her head and that it hasn't caused too much damage, yet.

My guess is that FallaciesAbound's comment is full of suggestions that most definitely are full of fallacies that will not abound.

Wow, that was the most poorly formed sentence I've seen in a long time. Were you intentionally trying to be cryptic?:confused:

I am starting to seriously wonder about you though, since you are so absorbed with the conspiracy thing that now apparently that is all you can see. That includes thinking that posters are out to get you or calling people by other posters names.

BlueAngel
05-09-2010, 08:46 PM
Apparently, Barbarien, a member of this forum, also posted as Insider, Indred and Fugitive.

FallaciesAbound
05-09-2010, 11:24 PM
And you know this how? Are you tracking IP addresses with each posting, or is it just a hunch?

BlueAngel
05-10-2010, 06:18 PM
It appears that I've stumbled upon a cell at CC:

A search of member LaDomino's IP address reveals the following usernames:

789 (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=39)
acca (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1294)
Agent_Orange (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=229)
Airborne1 (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1240)
Akbar (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=66)
Alexandra (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=10)
Alithia (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1017)
bambam (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=339)
Barbara (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=592)
Barbarian (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1198)
beaburt (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=959)
Bendair (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=707)
Benoit (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1330)
blackstarr (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=916)
CamoGreen (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1090)
canadianguy (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1617)
Chemlin (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1776)
Chuckd (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1028)
Coldprincess (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1177)
crowneagle (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=290)
crystalclear (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=426)
diamond (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=73)
diogenes (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=130)
DoctorX (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=295)
Draken (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=24)
Draken (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=24)
filthyfear (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1652)
Finn (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=701)
Fraser (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=853)
Fugitive (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1368)
FugitiveEye (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=270)
FuMiCo (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1431)
G4bster (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1241)
George_Bush (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=751)
HothSnake (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=992)
illuminatiwa (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1762) ] (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=doips&u=1762&hash=a749df35957d138015864db31b0ca1c1)
jason_ou812 (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=689)
JillyBean (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=61)
Johnny_Reb (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=109)
John_1335 (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=786)
jonk (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=410)
Khopesh (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=718)
kidstrife (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1000)
Kinergy (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=93)
LaDominio (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=662)
Liberty (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=412)
Longshot36 (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1072)
marypopinz (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=90)
MasonTemplar (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=388)
Max (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=112)
MikeB (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=670)
mikeenviro (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=530)
Mynda_Peace (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=430)
nakedsnake (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=405)
nathanblows (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1168)
neenafoof (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=798)
nohope187 (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=84)
NOLizardo (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1463)
NWBeliever (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=517)
Nyarla (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=700)
O_VAUGHAN (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1210)
Parashuram (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=108)
phoenix (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=688)
qwertyuiop (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1381)
rangergord (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=17)
REBELBULL (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=579)
RedIce (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1451)
redrat11 (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=647)
Robski (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1480)
rushdoony (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=99)
salenko (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1495)
savagebovine (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=566)
ScoopMC (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=528)
SeC (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=776)
seemless (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1234)
Shadow (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1223)
starviego (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=158)
Steve (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=144)
StoneWT (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=241)
Styris (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1055)
Sucre (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1175)
Swoolfer (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1595)
TheMirror (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1485)
thokhanCep (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=100)
Trinity (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=588)
truebeliever (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=259)
truthlies (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1502)
universal (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1560)
Vlad (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=299)
wackooooo (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=930)
Wainy (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1021)
white_floe (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1345)
Wiking (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=702)
Yeoshua (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=262)
zenpho (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1233)
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Names of note in the above list:

Barbara
TrueBeliever
MaryPopinz
George_Bush
RedRatII
Nohope187
Rushdoony
Shadow
Fugitive
SEC

When I searched under RedRatII's IP address in the above list, George_Bush displayed as another username.

BlueAngel
05-10-2010, 06:24 PM
Jimbo was also:

Me9G7X5t1r2M

BlueAngel
05-10-2010, 06:57 PM
Mongoose a/k/a cuda.

BlueAngel
05-10-2010, 08:16 PM
What a tangled web they weave.

Seraching Frau_nothing's IP address brings about usernames:

Insider (Barbarien)

Torthithill

madcow

and, lo' and behold RedRatII appears, as well as Indred (Barbarien) and IGNT (Barbarien).

FallaciesAbound
05-10-2010, 09:42 PM
Cool that you can track that. I know the JREF and FES sites both had problems with the duplicate poster spam things. Too bad the programmers cant figure out how to eliminate that.

BlueAngel
05-10-2010, 09:47 PM
Cool that you can track that. I know the JREF and FES sites both had problems with the duplicate poster spam things. Too bad the programmers cant figure out how to eliminate that.

Yes, Eire/FallaciesAbound.

It's' real COOL that I can track that.

It's not too bad for you, though, because you are a duplicate poster.

:cool:

BlueAngel
05-11-2010, 09:04 PM
Nomad was CIA Insider, Born_to_Die and 666.

BlueAngel
05-17-2010, 07:09 PM
Thank you, GOD

for everything you've given me

and

everything you've taken away

for helping me when I couldn't find my way

for hearing me when I was on my knees and prayed

for the light you shined upon me

when I was in the dark

for opening my eyes

and giving me a loving heart

for walking by me every day

for blessing me with this beautiful life

for making me a mother, a friend

and

a loving wife

for giving me strength
and helping me to survive
when they tortured me
and tried to steal my life

for helping me rise up
when
they tried to shatter my soul

for allowing me
to
remain whole

for helping me to know right from wrong

for giving me hope
for keeping me strong

Thank you, GOD
for being there
in my young life
when I was terririfed and scared

AMEN!

jane doe
05-18-2010, 08:26 AM
What a great thread.

Lovie
05-19-2010, 10:00 PM
I wouldn't refer to this thread as great, because, you see what happened to me wasn't great.

And, what happened to every other child and adult who was a victim of a mind control program and/or experimented on wasn't great either.

It's a thread about my life as a young child incarcerated in the mind control program MKULTRA/Project Monarch and used in the music industry as a sex slave and for other CRIMINAL and inhumane purposes.

No more and no less, but it certainly ain't great.

what happened to you was not great...but this thread is.

Lovie
05-20-2010, 08:10 AM
Apparently, I frightened LOVIE away.

I would consider it a gain and not a loss.

Not really, I'm not frightened of someone posting words on a forum. I have other things to do than sit and wait for you to reply. So, if it takes a few hours to get back here and respond, don't assume that you have scared me off.

Sorry, TBT, you're right.

Seriously, LOVIE asks if I ever met Springsteen.

I clearly state that Springsteen was my main handler.

Duh?
well, that wasn't exactly clear. I thought maybe he did it by music alone. you kinda alluded to that being the case, via "springsteens website" Now which is it? did you meet him and have a relationship with him Or was this all done telepathically over the net?
If he was your main handler and abused you in person, why aren't you pressing charges instead of trying to paint me with the brush you try to paint everyone with?

Really?

This thread is great.

How could the fact that I was abused as a child in experimentation; used in "kiddie" pornography; in the music industry as a sex slave and for other criminal purposes be great?

You must have a screw lose in your head somewhere the same as Jane Doe who thinks this thread is great.

I don't expect anything of significance from you LOVIE, because, as I recall, you once called me a vicious b*tch.

But, go ahead, anyway.

Please.

Do tell the FORUM why you think this thread is great.

Well, if you look at it as if you are trying to get YOUR story told, could be great for you too.
FTR, I can be aggressive as you and equally as bitchy. If you think I care about getting banned from here you are wrong.
you don't have to read my posts, nor do I have to read yours, it's odd how you were so abused, yet that's what YOU do. accuse, abuse..banned. power trip..


you seem a little over the top rude to posters on this forum. No one can say ANYTHING that you dislike you accuse them of being psi ops. you don't have to be a bitch to get your story out, but you choose to be.

superted
05-20-2010, 11:26 AM
I just had an exam and it went quite well so I'm in a really good mood so this is post is not meant to annoy, simply illustrate.

"I don't abuse and I'm not on a power trip. "

Blue I have thought this and you disagree but then over last few weeks loads of other posters have agreed with me. Surely you must now that you do abuse your power and it does seem like your on a power trip. Who's right, you on your own (and your opinion is biased) or what 4/5 other posters on here?

superted
05-20-2010, 12:11 PM
"This is your second warning."
What is your problem?

Your last post totally vindicated my point. Why would I leave this forum because of you? Your not the reason I'm on this forum.

Lovie
05-23-2010, 11:38 AM
Obviously, you didn't get my point, which, was clear and concise so I have no idea why you didn't get my point.

I don't have a problem, but apparently you have a problem with me.

Since you are of the opinion that I am abusive and on a power trip and spend most of your time on this forum talking about my job performance as it relates to CC in every thread you possibly can, I would think you would want to leave.

This is your last warning.

One more post about my moderation of CC and you're gone.

P.S. My last post didn't vindicate anything that you said.

see you are on a power trip.. you do not read what other posters say EVER!

wow, just wow.

why is CC just about you?

superted
05-23-2010, 01:39 PM
I would say 'well said' Lovie but I would be banned.

jane doe
05-24-2010, 07:37 AM
The concept in this song, and others similiar, is structured to brainwash people into spirtual subservience to humans.

YouTube - Prince - I Would Die 4 U , Baby I 'm a Star + lyrics

BlueAngel
05-24-2010, 10:57 PM
I took a stand
and
I stood my ground
and
I am where I am
not
because of that man

I am ready
more ready
than I'll ever be
for everyone to know
the real me

so get the ball rolling
I'm strong and I'm able
no time like the present
cause I'm more than stable

call in the lawyers
and the ACLU
cause I've done my job
and that's your que

no one breaks me
past or present
cause I'm one of GOD's angel
and not aligned with the devil

so, call in the calvary
and get the ball rolling
it's time for this show
to start rock and rollin'

no one owns me
and
no one controls me
not then
not now
cause I'm completely free

I fought and I struggled
through torture and pain
to be where I am
and
I still remain

cause I took a stand
and
I stood my ground
and
I am where I am
not because of that man

I broke free
with the help of good men
so, yes indeed
it's time for MY calvary

GOD BLESS YOU ALL!

In Peace,
BlueAngel

Lovie
05-28-2010, 05:42 AM
what are they doing to you now?

FallaciesAbound
05-29-2010, 06:29 PM
The concept in this song, and others similiar, is structured to brainwash people into spirtual subservience to humans.

YouTube - Prince - I Would Die 4 U , Baby I 'm a Star + lyrics (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqGOtfPDH90)
Spoken like someone who has never gotten laid. lol. Its a song. Even if it was some grand scheme, it can only affect you if you let it.

Lovie
06-08-2010, 11:22 AM
These are my findings:

When you are a member of CC, you begin as a member and, according to your post count advance to junior member; senior member; and from what I recall, home away from home.

These words appear under your username.

So, why is it that the words "free member" appear under iHIMself's username?

And, why is it that under beentheredonethat's username the words "leap in/leap out" appear under his username?

And why do the words "The Master Mason" appear under KsigMason's username?

Just curious.

Anyone care to enlighten me because, obviosuly, Mizfish doesn't.

you can change it yourself if you want to. I changed mine no big conspiracy thee.

I just heard a springsteen song on xfm..I have to say I'm glad he was not my handler. his music sucks

BlueAngel
06-08-2010, 12:20 PM
The problem was solved.

As Super Moderator, the title function was not included in my user cp.

jane doe
08-02-2010, 10:06 AM
Advisors!

Did you win the lottery? :)

BlueAngel
08-05-2010, 01:15 AM
"You can't let what these evil people did to you make you afraid of life/everyone."

"Everyone is not evil."

"Yes, you're right."

"There are evil people in the world who are ugly and the people who did what they did to you are evil and ugly, but not everyone is evil and not everything in life is ugly."

"You have to embrace life and all the beauty that surrounds you."

"You will one day learn to trust another and you will, one day, find the meaning of true love."

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I have found the meaning of true love.

I have learned to trust that everyone is not evil.

I am not afraid of life and/or death.

I have seen the beauty of this earth.

I have embraced life.

EMBRACE LIFE

Embrace life
Embrace it all
Those you love
The moon and the stars
For we cannot know when one might fall

So, embrace life
Embrace it all

When you turn out the lights
And
Say good night
Never forget
Tomorrow’s light

We are bonded together
All of mankind
And, for this reason
We shall survive

We’ll weather this storm
And
We’ll weather another
Together as friends
Together as brothers

We’ll stick with each other through thick and thin
And, for this reason
We shall win

The evil, the corruption that surrounds us all
It will be gone when night falls

And

When we awake
to another day
And GOD’s light shows us the way
We’ll embrace each other
For what we are
Different together
Near and far

And, because of this
Mankind will not fall

I’ve shed tears that could create a lake
But, never, oh, never will they make me break
For I embrace life
And all that it is
Beauty, evil, corruption and sin
And, because of this, they will not win

Stay true to yourself
And what you believe
And not what they want you to perceive

Embrace life
Embrace it all
Those you love
The moon and stars
For you never know when one might fall

li'lears
08-07-2010, 02:56 PM
Hi BlueAngel:

To start with I don't care what you have to say about my post(s).

Simplified you are a "gaslighter". To make it simple.
("sociopath" would be more accurate)

Your thread on your life experience unknown to you is FICTIONAL.
It is simply "piped" through to your "little mind".

You take to it with your little mind because there is nothing in your life to you
Schizoid you know.

You have no problem chucking out your present life in favour of what you
relate here in your thread to see yourself as a somebody. Nevermind you
have a loving husband and offspring that you plug in favour of time and
time again.

Remember BlueAngel: I don't care what you have to say about anything.
SO KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT.

li'lears
08-07-2010, 02:57 PM
past lives??

You mention "past lives??" with a question mark, no doubt because you can't
see "reincarnation" set in present day surroundings. Which makes it not
a reincarnated event being recalled in "a" next life.

li'lears
08-07-2010, 04:40 PM
This ? was yours not mine. Could be my post wasn't outright clear AND
I possibly didn't read your ? quite right:

BA asked "who is the someone else"?
Someone else = victim/victims (not known by name)
of these other handlers/controllers.
(your question not mine)

Someone else also = "each" of the victims, not "all" lumped together.

I asked about blackouts because:
while you were at the mercy of the handlers/controllers
"the amount of time" that was taken up during your ordeal
would have to be taken out from ---- your day to day life.

Was wondering if there were periods of "missing time",
as you proceeded with your life.
(because of your recalling it having happened, seemingly later in life)


BA: Jane Doe hasn't made an impression on me or anyone else.
Well, maybe you.

You appear to be picking at words here AND insinuating.

BA: Unless you have something pertinent to add to the topic of
mind control, kindly refrain from engaging in useless chatter with
Jane Doe or anyone else on this thread or any thread on this forum.

Have encountered your posts all over this forum and you, notice-ably,
do not follow your own advice.
It must have been "useless" chatter, only, in your eyes AND we have
nothing going on between us.

BA: What happened to me....and I'm not in need of any anonymous
posters....asserting they know better than myself.

Never asserted that I know better than you about your experiences.
Posts are subject to the interpreter. Not your "absolute" perogative.

BA: My response to Jane Does' post was not out of place.
You, however, are out of place for insinuating such.

Seemed like forum etiquette to me.



Please refrain from picking posts' apart TO twist around.
No "need" for us to debate this statement.


I am trying to comprehend your experience that you are "pain-stakingly"
being informative about to others.

Thanks for bringing - What happened to you - Out in the open.
I find it to be an "eye-opener".

You started this thread BUT readers of it, will post in it.
Not "outright subject" to your interpretation of these posts.
There ARE lots of posts in threads that appear to be needless.
(mostly we grin and bare it, some liven things up though)

No doubt, upagainstit and Jane Doe, felt their post was uncalled for.
You, BlueAngel, however: your remarks were not in line.
Obviously, not ALL of BlueAngels' remarks, were out of line,
BUT the ones that were, were noticeable.

You will find my contribution to this forum,
in the story of my life, that I tell:
Social Oppression (http://upagainstit-s-o.blogspot.com/)
it's also in the "introduction" section.
Thread is called: Life As I Know It.
Suggestion: go from first to last entry when you get to the blog.

BlueAngels' life experience and mine are not the same.
However, we both found out later, that something was going on with us.
I became aware of "WHAT'S" going on from 1983 to the present.

Warning: BlueAngel writes "a lot" better than I do.

Tried to delete this post. wrong one

li'lears
08-07-2010, 04:52 PM
IN RETROSPECT:

Almost 500 pages to this thread.

Sped my way through from page 170 and on.

Up until page 170, read each post.

Looking back, reading up to page 100
will give you the "gist" of
BlueAngels' experience.

Pages 100 on to the end almost
is mostly ranting and raving in
quantity and lacks more quality.

Around page 470 the topic of this thread
appears to be gotten away from
even by BlueAngel her/his self.


Warning:

Pages in the 130 to 140 range:
posters mention pictures here
BlueAngel somewhat "jumps" in
saying the matter will be taken care of.
Not once but twice, the pictures are still there.
The second set of pictures,
is probably the ones they are referring to.
However, the first set - shown twice,
one other time earlier than this,
seem to have no basis to be there.

I suspect BlueAngel has more than, one username.

Posts by BlueAngel between 140 to 170:
seem to be on somekind of "tyrade".
I was "alarmed" at that time.
However: fears appear to be unfounded.

Posts around 340 maybe a little earlier and on:
there is increased interaction between
members of this forum and BlueAngel.

Prior to then this thread is heavy on
BlueAngels', something like "documentary".

BlueAngel appears to be tiring of the thread
around December 2008 to January 2009.
From Jan 2009 to today the time
taken up by the thread, speeds up.


OPINION TIME:

BlueAngel states the time of this ordeal,
experience by her/him, started
shortly after the 9/11 of 2001.
When the incident of the
World Trade Center twin towers occurred.

That would date the remembrance of things
by BlueAngel around 2002.

Nearest I could figure BlueAngel was born
around 1956 in June.
The memories start to unfold around 2002.
(maybe a month or two before)

Apparently the 9/11 of 2001 incident,
triggered something in BlueAngel,
real or imagined(?).

Prior to 2002, BlueAngel, seems
to have frequented "rock concerts"
of her "pet peeve".

However: BlueAngel states in the thread,
that the idea, that unfolds here in the thread,
was taken to - more "media" attention means.
The "medias" approached, did not accept.

BlueAngels' life apart from this forum that
is retold "of", by her/him,
ends up - lacking credibility.

The way BlueAngel handles this ordeal,
is "reminiscent" of the way
"psychics" are portrayed on TV and in movies.

Speaking from my own experience, which started in 1983,
such "over-whelmed" by emotionally set back,
when these "memories" are replayed in oneself,
subsides later on: so "continually" taken with
these "experiences" after a while,
no longer "exist" in such way.
In my own case it would go Aug to Oct of 1983
to the early 1990's. Not endlessly on still,
even though this still goes on with me, to this date.

BlueAngel states in this thread, that
what is relayed here to us
was an "idea" that was taken to
more "revealing" far and wide, media.
Seemingly before the memories started around 2002.

Something that was seen by BlueAngel
in the lyrics of songs, that
BlueAngel could go on about.

BlueAngel has gone on and on.....
about it, in this thread.

Lots of quantity, short on "quality".

However, BlueAngels' demeanor, needs to be adrressed.

BlueAngel appears to have "gaslighter", tendencies.
Probably doesn't go to the "possessing" extent.
BlueAngel "wants" to have it on you, in such way, though.

There were some posters that BlueAngel couldn't handle.
Appears to be because, BlueAngel,
couldn't "see" the poster, from his/her post.
The only reason I can see for BlueAngel
being "visibly" upset, by Leonardo.

OVERALL:
BlueAngel, "spun"; a good "yarn".
What was written about, is quite believable.

BlueAngels' experience in life,
past and present,
lacks credibility
directly applicable to BlueAngel.

This is the one that I wanted to bring up as the only valid review of this
thread. Not the one before this. Mistake.

li'lears
08-07-2010, 05:13 PM
This thread by BA is not what it portrays itself to be.

The author of this thread is simply passing it out from being played through to

Like in the music industry and authors: it just comes to them.

Not consciously produced by.

li'lears
08-07-2010, 05:20 PM
Hey, BA:

The only evidence you have that you speak of
is at best stashed away by you from your earlier years.
It doesn't exist to you "presently".

You haven't got it from your later years.
You probably don't know where it is.
Your experience has just been played through to you.

You are simply taken with yourself to have been there.
No doubt your life is meaningless otherwise.

Don't forget BA: I don't care what you have to say about anything.
So KEEP QUIET.
You know SHUT UP.

You don't get by me.
Hide behind your stance ---> it's all you do.

BlueAngel
08-16-2010, 11:59 PM
Your apology for the USA to the countless numbers of those who were "unethically" experimented on in prisons, institutions, hospitals and military bases is not accepted.

YouTube - President Clinton admits to mind control experiments

Lovie
08-20-2010, 09:34 PM
can you get the full video or at least one that doesn't look like it has been tampered with?

Lovie
08-22-2010, 12:34 AM
I had no motive..I looks like (to me it has been tampered with)..It's not clear, I can't see his lips moving, to tell if has been overdubbed..
30 seconds is the full video?? come on..no president has made a 30 second speech in his life..

Lovie
08-22-2010, 09:05 PM
[QUOTE]What?

You find it hard to believe that the government conducted unethical experimentation on "unwitting" citizens and that Clinton made a public apology?

I never said that! I just asked you for a better video.

I suspect, in your world, it's better to believe that the video is a fake.
In my world? I just asked you for a better video.


Please tell us what purpose this would serve?
a better video.

Here's a suggestion, since you think the video is a fake, how 'bout you send the video to a media outlet and ask them to authenticate it or to Clinton himself asking him if those are his words.

so, you want ME to validated it when it was your posting?
I just asked you for a better video.


FYI, as anyone can see, the video provides a clip of his speech.
doesn;t look like it to me...

No one said the clip was the entire speech.
yes, yes you did..

Try finding the video on the web.
you are the one who posted it, I just asked you for a better one.

Very few exist.
why do you suppose that is?

Most cannot be FOUND when clicking on the link.

Gee.

I wonder why?

Oh so you don't know either...
Doesn't take a rocket scientist to know the answer to that question.
apparently it does
I wonder just the same why the video is of such poor quality.
Do you? Do you REALLY??
Doesn't take a rocket scientist....

I have provided the text below.

The following is a portion of a speech given on 10/3/95 by President William C. Clinton concerning Executive Order 12975 - Protection of Human Research Subjects and Creation of National Bioethics Advisory Commission:

"Thousands of government-sponsored experiments did take place at hospitals, universities, and military bases around our nation. Some were unethical, not only by today's standards, but by the standards of the time in which they were conducted. They failed both the test of our national values, and the test of humanity. The United States of America offers a sincere apology to those of our citizens who were subjected to these experiments, to their families, and to their communities. When the government does wrong, we have a moral responsibility to admit it."

yep. that is fer sure not tampered with. I can tell by the way you wrote it out...

Lovie
08-22-2010, 09:40 PM
Sorry, but I never said that the video was the entirety of Clinton's speech so don't say that I did, because I didn't.

If you want a better video, find it yourself.

This forum doesn't exist to appease you nor do I.

You're the person who questions the validity of the video, so, yes, you are the person who should attempt to verify it and not me.

Again.

This forum doesn't exist to appease you nor do I.

Do your own research.

You're accussing me of tampering with the words Clinton spoke on the video?

You can cleary hear them.

The excerpt was provided by others and myself, as well, and they jive.

Get real, pal!

Or, don't.

Either way, take a hike.



I NEVER said any of the things you are accusing me of Blue angel.
I don't need to find a better copy. You are the one who provided the video..I idn't..
to me it's not very viable. If you want ME to beleive or anyone.. you are the one who needs to find a better video
FTR I'm not your pal..
YOU said it was the full speech..then you went and edited your posts...
YOU have an agenda. no one else..just you..

Lovie
08-22-2010, 10:44 PM
I haven't accused you of anything, but you've accused me of plenty which is untrue such as tampering with Clinton's words on the video.

I didn't say that you tampered with clinton's words..I asked for a better video.
So you actually made this video??

Doesn't matter whether I provided the video or not, you're the person who isn't satisfied with it and wants a better copy so I suggest you find one.
I don't really care..AT ALL..it still looks fake to me..
I don't work for you.

nor do I you.

I provided a video which was provided by someone else.
you think they could have gotten better footage. hmmmm

Believe it as it is or not, I couldn't care any less.

sure you care..you wouldn't get yourself riled up so bad if you didn't..


CC doesn't exist so that we can spend our time proving that which hasn't been proven by someone such as yourself claiming the video is fake.
I never claimed it was fake. I asked for a better video. I said it SEEMS fake to me. If you don't want to waste your time trying to get a better copy of the video, why should I? I'm not the MCV who is trying to tell my story to the world you are.
I never said it was the full speech and edited my post.
yeah you did.

NEVER!
um okay whatever you say..

You are lying.
hmmm..nope, I have nothing to gain by lying but I'm wondering why you want to make me look crazy, here.

Yep.
sure..

I do have an agenda and so do many others including yourself.
I don't have an agenda..I just asked for a better video

The difference would be that my agenda is honorable and your agenda is not.
so what EXACTALY would my agenda be for asking you for a better copy of the video???


btw, I looked for a better video..you can't see his lips to match the words up to his speech..could be overdubbed..

overdub
verb |ˌōvərˈdəb| ( -dubbed, -dubbing)
record (additional sounds) on an existing recording [ trans. ] : she'd overdub her parts for a whole album in a single session | [ intrans. ] a live tape that I overdubbed on.

Lovie
08-23-2010, 02:26 PM
You're asking me for a better copy of the video because you are attempting to prove that it's a fake because you know that a better copy doesn't exist.

Gee, how convenient.

So, if Clinton's words are overdubbed, what does that prove?

That someone overdubbed his words and he never apologized for the "unethical" experimentations conducted on "unwitting" citizens by the government of the United State's of America?

Could you kindly find out what Clinton really said before he was, as you believe, overdubbed?

Even if the video is a fake; even if his words are overdubbed, I can assure you that "unethical" experimentation's were conducted by the government of the United State's of America on "unwitting" citizens and I don't need a President or otherwise to aknowledge it.

Try searching the "Tuskegee" experimentation.

Here's a question for you.

What would be the point of producing a fake video of Clinton apologizing to the "victim's" of unethical experimentation?

there's alot of people just saying stuff on the web. I don't know why someone would overdub that. But, people do a lot of stuff that I don't understand why.
Why are you so convinced it's the real thing??

and FTR, I didn't know there weren't any good copies of it till I looked LAST NIGHT!
And again..I don't rally give a shit two much..If it's true that Clinton apologised, it would be a start, but, I find it difficult to beleive that a polition would apologise.

jane doe
08-23-2010, 04:12 PM
If Clinton apologized it doesn't mean shit. Both Clintons can say anything without honesty.

BlueAngel
08-24-2010, 08:39 PM
AN INTERLUDE

I am what I am

Nothing more and nothing less

Of that, I'm certain, you've heard me confess

On that, I can rest my soul

Not half, but whole

Not stripped bare

But, clothed

In my flesh

Raw and bold

I stand and stare you in the face

and there you are glued to the floor

with your feet

cemented in place

cause

you can't believe

you see

my face

But, here I am

and I must confess

this is the best

I've ever been

Me

In the raw

in the flesh

naked and exposed

slowly putting on my clothes

walking through the door

once more

and there you stand before me

naked and bare

stripped and in the flesh

how does it feel

I ask you

to be so exposed

cause you didn't think

I was capable

but, I am

and now you know

Lovie
08-24-2010, 10:54 PM
Ohmygoodness.

I contemplate.

Should I even attempt to reply to the following mess that was posted by Lovie?

I say to myself.

Oh, why not?

You've conquered so much worse.

You can do this.

Go for it, I say.

So, I do only because there are a couple of comments by Lovie that I feel I need to clarify, but precision is one of my attributes, so I must not leave any stone unturned in the process.

Cause, that's what I do.

I clarify that which isn't clear.
All of it.
Not just a piece or a particle.

So, please.
Allow me the honor.

Originally Posted by BlueAngel

I haven't accused you of anything, but you've accused me of plenty which is untrue such as tampering with Clinton's words on the video.

Lovie said:

I didn't say that you tampered with clinton's words..I asked for a better video.
So you actually made this video??

YOU SAID THAT YOU ARE ABLE TO TELL THAT THE WRITTEN WORDS WERE TAMPERED WITH. I TRANSCRIBED HIS WORDS (i.e., I WROTE THEM) AND, BTW, PLEASE INFORM THE FORUM HOW IT IS YOU ARE ABLE TO KNOW THAT THE WRITTEN WORDS AS TRANSCRIBED BY ME AND OTHERS WERE TAMPERED WITH.

I NEVER SAID I MADE THE VIDEO.

BlueAngel said:

Doesn't matter whether I provided the video or not, you're the person who isn't satisfied with it and wants a better copy so I suggest you find one.

Lovie said:

I don't really care..AT ALL..it still looks fake to me..

OBVIOUSLY, YOU CARE AS YOU CONTINUE TO HOUND ME TO FIND A BETTER COPY. SORRY TO INFORM YOU BUT YOUR OPINION THAT THE VIDEO IS A FAKE DOESN'T MATTER.

Blue Angel said:

I don't work for you.

Lovie said:

nor do I you.

WHO THEN DO YOU WORK FOR IF NOT FOR YOURSELF?

OH, LET ME GUESS!!

BlueAngel said:

I provided a video which was provided by someone else.

Lovie said:

you think they could have gotten better footage. hmmmm

YEAH, RIGHT.
DAMN THEM.
YOU THINK THEY COULD HAVE PROVIDED BETTER FOOTAGE.
LIKE I SAID.
DID IT EVER OCCUR TO YOU THAT SOMEONE OTHER THAN THE PERSON WHO TOOK THE VIDEO TAMPERED WITH IT?

BlueAngel said:

Believe it as it is or not, I couldn't care any less.

Lovie said:

sure you care..you wouldn't get yourself riled up so bad if you didn't..

SORRY TO DISAPPOINT YOU, BUT I'M NOT RILED UP. YOU ARE APPARENTLY THE PERSON WHO IS RILED UP ABOUT THIS VIDEO AND NOT ME AS YOU CONTINUE TO GO ON AND ON ABOUT IT.

BlueAngel said:

CC doesn't exist so that we can spend our time proving that which hasn't been proven by someone such as yourself claiming the video is fake.

Lovie said:

I never claimed it was fake. I asked for a better video. I said it SEEMS fake to me. If you don't want to waste your time trying to get a better copy of the video, why should I? I'm not the MCV who is trying to tell my story to the world you are.

AH, YOU SAID IT LOOKS LIKE THE VIDEO WAS TAMPERED WITH; CLINTON'S WORDS WERE DUBBED OVER AND, THEREFORE, IT SEEMS FAKE.

I DIDN'T ASK YOU TO WASTE YOUR TIME FINDING A BETTER COPY OF THE VIDEO. YOU ASKED ME TO WASTE MY TIME FINDING A BETTER COPY OF THE VIDEO FOR YOU.

AS AN MCV, I'M NOT THE LEAST BIT CONCERNED ABOUT FINDING A BETTER COPY OF THE VIDEO, CAUSE, PAL, CLINTONI'S WORDS AREN'T MY EVIDENCE; THEY JUST ADD TO IT.

BlueAngel said:

I never said it was the full speech and then edited my post after you accused me of saying it was the full speech.

Lovie said:

yeah you did.

KINDLY PROVE WHERE I SAID THE CLIP OF CLINTON WAS HIS FULL SPEECH.

I NEVER SAID SUCH A THING AND THEN EDITED MY POST.

YOU'RE THE ONE WHO SAID A PRESIDENT HAS NEVER GIVEN A SPEECH THAT LASTS HOW EVER LONG THIS CLIP DID AND NOT I.

BlueAngel said:

NEVER!

Lovie said:

um okay whatever you say..

YOU BETCHA!

BlueAngel said:

You are lying.

Lovie said:

hmmm..nope, I have nothing to gain by lying but I'm wondering why you want to make me look crazy, here.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO GAIN BY LIEING, THAN DON'T LIE SUCH AS SAYING I SAID THE CLIP REPRESENTED CLINTON'S FULL SPEECH.

Lovie said:

Yep.

sure..

YEP, yet again.

BlueAngel said:

I do have an agenda and so do many others including yourself.

Lovie said:

I don't have an agenda..I just asked for a better video.

SO FIND ONE.

BlueAngel said:

The difference would be that my agenda is honorable and your agenda is not.
wow ..just wow..

NONE OF that transpired.. go back and read the posts..
I asked for a better video..you are the OP of the video..
you made this into some big conspiracy to fuel your demons..
you are insane..
goodbye.

Lovie
08-25-2010, 09:58 AM
[QUOTE=BlueAngel;70005]If it didn't transpire, why is it there?
well, something transpired but NOT what you claim..
Go back and read the posts.I know what I said and what I meant.

You'll see that they are there.
yes, anyone can see the rubbish that you spew.
Therefore, they transpired. Not like you think..

I'm not the OP of the video and even if I were, it doesn't mean I have to supply you with a better copy.
so, you are saying that you didn't post the video on club conspiracy? It says Blue Angel. so either you are lying or someone is posting under your user name....
You're the person who wants a better copy, not me.

So, go find one. so, your satisfied then..cool

I didn't make this into some big conspiracy, you did.
hmmm just because I think it's fake apology?
Therefore, you are the one who needed to do so in order to fuel his demons.
I don't know why you keep referring to me in the masculine pronoun. I am female.
No demons here. That is what demons want you to believe.

jane doe
08-25-2010, 12:44 PM
Wait until Bill hears about this.

Lovie
08-25-2010, 07:45 PM
Wait until Bill hears about this.

yeah, I sent him an email @whitehouse.gov..he said he has no idea what I'm talking about.

Lovie
08-27-2010, 07:13 AM
[quote=Lovie;70016]

Inside the box.


If you posted the video on CC, then YOU ARE the OP..OP stands for Original poster. Sheesh~
I like how you rearrange posts, to suit yourself. So you can scream foul. It's nice having power against people init?

Lovie
09-01-2010, 10:11 AM
[quote=Lovie;70041]

I've explained in detail about the video ad nauseum and, it appears, you are the only person who doesn't understand the written word, because you constantly misinterpret that which is CLEARLY WRITTEN IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE, which causes you to continually rehash the unimportant; attempting to make some point which you will never make because you are not comprehending that which is, as I said, CLEARLY WRITTEN IN THE ENLGISH LANGUAGE.

My post about the video indicates that I understand what OP stands for.

I don't rearrange my posts to suit myself.

I don't scream foul and I don't have power against people.

More misconceptions by Lovie.

What else is new?

Why did you say you were not the OP then? If you understand what it means???
Oh wait, you'll say you didn't say that, and will have edited your posts so that they don't say that anymore..that's what I mean by using power over people..then when you don't like what they say you ban them..

talk about psy-ops...

Lovie
09-01-2010, 12:56 PM
If it didn't transpire, why is it there?

Go back and read the posts.

You'll see that they are there.

Therefore, they transpired.

I'm not the OP of the video and even if I were, it doesn't mean I have to supply you with a better copy.

You're the person who wants a better copy, not me.

So, go find one.

I didn't make this into some big conspiracy, you did.

Therefore, you are the one who needed to do so in order to fuel his demons.

No demons here.

Demon free!

quoting this here before BA edit's her post where she said she is not the op...

BlueAngel
09-05-2010, 10:18 PM
Where have all the people of American gone?

Where are all the voices that were once strong?

Suppressed?

Distressed?

Sell-outs like all the rest.

Where are all the jobs?

Overseas?

In distant lands

While we stand in the unemployment lines

and our military are used to protect the interests

of the very few in far away places

while they prosper and we suffer

leaving only traces

of shattered and broken hearts

And, I throb

My heart that is

It aches for a place

for all of us

but we don't fit in

We're not in their plan

It's their sham and their scam

And

When I was very young, they wanted me to believe

but I knew

I had been deceived

all for the profit and greed of the very few

I don't want a third world country

America

that's not what she was meant to be

or was she

all through the deception and misconception by those

who tell us what is, but, what really is not

so, we fight, in far away places

leaving only traces

of broken hearts

and families

living in the dark

trying to mend and put back the pieces

of their shattered lives

all for the sake of the very few

protecting their interests

and their lies

while we fight for them

believing we are fighting for us

it's so untrue

Lovie
09-08-2010, 09:53 AM
Thank you for quoting a post wherein I say that I wasn't the OP of the Clinton video.

Hint:

I think what you're looking for is a post wherein I said I was the original poster.

Your apology for the USA to the countless numbers of those who were "unethically" experimented on in prisons, institutions, hospitals and military bases is not accepted.

YouTube - President Clinton admits to mind control experiments (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTiONdJJRcw)

Furthermore, your presence on this forum is irrelevant and so is the content that you write.

I feel the same way about you!


Whew! This is getting fun, now!

YOU posted the video, a VERY bad, FAKE apology video!
I asked you if you could get a better copy, because YOU were the OP, of the video!
YOU accused me of some sort of VAST conspiracy :), cause I asked for a better copy of the video!
YOU denied being the OP OVER AND OVER AND OVER...and then Called ME a liar..lol
it appears that you are the one who is a liar!
So now you are turning this into an unimportant argument over the OP..
so you fail, at making me out to be the liar, the LIAR is you..
what do you gain??? elitist attitude.. you sure you don't work for THEM???

jane doe
09-08-2010, 06:14 PM
BlueAngel, I am impressed by your poem.:)

Lovie
09-13-2010, 07:30 PM
I never accused you of some sort of vast conspiracy.

FYI, the video is floating around on the INTERNET.

Hence, this is from where it originated.

As I said, I don't believe I was the OP of the video and I requested that you provide back-up that proves I was and even if you DO provide back-up that proves I was the OP of the video on this forum, so what?

Ah, I think it would be you who has OVER and OVER and OVER again tried to turn this into an unimportant argument.

No.

I take that back.

I don't think it is you.

I am certain it is you.

word salad....

BlueAngel
09-13-2010, 08:04 PM
I love you
Not only
Because you love me
For who I am
But, because, there you stand
Beside me
Every step of the way
While I try to see through all the dirt
In my face

And
There you are
again
When I emerge
Pouring your grace
Upon me

Helping me learn to love myself
And see beyond
All the dirt
In my face

The utter disgrace of it all
and the places
I once was

Showing me how to shove it
To the side
And
Be in the here and now
And not the past
For it is gone
And, oh, how I long

For your arms
When I’m in that space
Holding me
When I can't see
through all the dirt in my face

and

there you are

with me

in the now and not the past

and

There isn’t any dirt in my face
it's all been cleared away
and I can see in front of me
The footsteps I must take
To erase the memories of what once was

A cell
A torture chamber
A dark and damp floor
Crawling to the food
Left by the door

Eating and feeling sick
Being deprived of life
Sacrificed

Feeling like I wanted to die
But fighting to stay alive
For this day

Today, tomorrow
And
All the tomorrows to come

For we are one
And, you

You are my love

jane doe
09-15-2010, 10:34 AM
BlueAngel, your husband is so lucky to have your love.:)

conasatátú
09-16-2010, 01:09 AM
Cathy O'Brien speaks of the music industry in her book "Trance Formation of America" she also names names.

It's an interesting book but a harrowing read - if anyone wants it, I have it as a PDF - PM me.

I have also seen a few vids on YouTube about this subject - the most recent, Lady Gaga. However, all through the 70s there were rumours about Led Zep and the Stones etc. that fit this theme and the old adage "no smoke without fire" usually holds true in my experience.

Lovie
09-23-2010, 03:34 PM
you realize ads are a google bot right?
meaning they just search for key WORDS..

Lovie
09-23-2010, 08:03 PM
No.

I didn't realize that until Mizfish explained it to me.

Like I said, thank GOODNESS that Club Conspiracy has relinqished their "advertising rights" to GOOGLE.

:eek:
pretty much every website does it to earn revenue..
did you ban the owner of the site? tee hee that'd be funny

Lovie
09-25-2010, 09:18 AM
Hmm.. He could shut down the site..that would be REALLY funny:rolleyes:

BlueAngel
11-02-2010, 09:25 PM
I look at our world and
what do I see
a whole lot of people

suffering

all around me

losing their homes and
living in dirt

dying of diseases
in pain and hurt

veterans returning from overseas
dealing with injuries we can't even conceive

families of loved ones lost in Iraq
a war gone bad
from the moment in was hatched

bin laden still roaming
Al Qaeda our fear
the elitists parading around
like they truly care

about us

So,

i look around me and what do I see
a third world country in the making

schools that are crumbling
education that is failing

pharmaceutical companies pushing their dope

I don't see America and
I don't see hope

She's a cloud
lost in the smoke

of 911 and the towers falling down

buildings that crumbled straight to the ground
as if they were wired
but, if I dare speak it
I won't be admired

I'll be looked upon as if I'm insane
just like a child
when I called out thier names
pointed my finger
accused them of much
only to be sent away
and out of touch

but, hey, that's me

and I'll keep talking

cause what do I see

a whole lot of people suffering

livin' in dirt

in pain, crying, broken and hurt

BlueAngel
11-02-2010, 09:32 PM
I just wannna walk on the beach

barefoot and carefree

with the sand squishing in between my toes

without any clothes

feeling the breeze sweep across me

on my face

while I walk in the sand

and it squishes in between my toes

and the horizon is yellow and gold

and the birds

I see them

sweeping gently across the water

diving here and there without any care

their wings outsrtreched

riding the waves

as each one creasts

and I walk through the sand

feeling it squish in between my toes

and in the distance

the horizon

all yellow and gold

Ah, the ocean

what a sight to behold

retro_stripes
11-03-2010, 11:11 AM
miley cyrus's mom cheated with bret michaels.
demi lovato just entered rehab for cutting.
all the disney kids have horrible lives.

JBoy
11-12-2010, 03:56 PM
Monarch slave actors/performers:

-Roseanne Barr, Bette Mittler, Marilyn Monroe, Loretta Lynn, Crystal Gayle, Wayne Newton,...etc.

MAJOR slave handlers-->Frank Sinatra, Peter Lawford & Bob Hope
MAJOR programmers-->Anton LaVey & Jerry lee Lewis

Elvis Presley-->Illuminati programmed multiple-->AKA John Burrows-->Memphis Mafia-->twin brother dead @ birth-->Elvis' handler/programmer was Col. Tom Parker-->Elvis active member of Theosophical Society-->after Elvis' death, Sun International Corp. released Elvis album called 'Orion'-->Mae Boren Axton (AKA Grande Dame of Nashville) pivotal in Elvis' life-->Elvis close to Burt Reynolds & Jerry Lee Lewis.

Hollywood productions exist SOLELY to PUSH mind-control agenda.


-Star Wars, Star Trek, Wizard of Oz, Love Boat, Fantasy Island, I Dream of Jeanie, The Little Princess, Miss Universe Contest 1995, Duck Tails, Bobby's World, Tiny Toons, My Fair Lady, ET,...etc.

Shows containing elements of Illuminati ceremonies/history/drug running methods:

-Bell, Book & Candle, Burn Witch Burn, Curse of the Voodoo, Equinox, Manos, The Hands of Fate, Witchcraft '70, Spirits of the Living Dead, Frankenstein, Night of the Living Dead, Bewitched, Raising Cain, Hellraiser 3,...etc.

Shows portraying total mind-control Monarch programming:

-Telephon, Manchurian Candidate, Videodrome, Labyrinth, Trancer II, Krull, The Attack of the Robots, Dr. Goldfoot & the Bikini Machine, Attack of the Puppet People, The War of the Zombies, Colossus - The Forbin Project, The Point of No Return (Jane Fonda's Bridgett-->OTO), Cat Girl, Golem, Cyborg 2087,...etc.


Coca-cola (Illuminati ran)-->MAJOR advertiser for Star Trek.

'God'-man Dalai Lama-->HUGE fan of TNG.

Illuminati S & M porn film industry BOOMING for 1/2 century; MASSIVE humiliation, torture & snuff.

Michael Aquino-->'Mickey Mouse' programming (also his nickname)

Frank Sinatra bought the movie rights for Richard Condons 'Manchurian Candidate', published in 1958.

Frank Sinatra has handled Bob Hopes' slaves when Bob's victims 'lent' to the 'Rat Pack' (Dean Martin, Frank, Sammy Davis Jr., Peter Lawford & Joey Bishop).

Frank close to Rockefellars/Rothschilds

Peter & Sammy-->Satanists

Dean wanted to bring collared sexual slave with 'kitten' alter onto his TV show, but was stopped.

Frank's mother performed illegal 'abortions'.

Illuminati death squads FAR superior to Mafia.

Charlie 'Lucky' Luciano controlled Marilyn Monroe.

William Joseph Bryan, Jr.-->(AKA William Joseph Bryon/William Jenning Bryan III)-->Chief of Air Force's 'Medical Survival Training' (covert mind-control section)-->programmed Sirhan Sirhan to be involved in Rob Kennedy asassination-->Bryan was Satanic priest in Old Roman Catholic church.

Bryan/Sinatra-->members of Tommy Dorsey Band.

Collins Illuminati bloodline performed pre-20th century experiments to create 'frankenstein'. Rothschilds have succeeded in producing 'synthetic' people since the Collins' attempts.(hey, how the hell we know)

Sisters-of-Light-->level before Mothers-of-Darkness.

Quintriplets MASSIVE Illuminati advantage for high level subterfuge.

UNTIL SOCIETY ADMITS THE WIDESPREAD ATROCITIES OF ADVANCED MIND-CONTROL METHODOLOGY, IT'S DANGEROUS FOR CHILDREN TO ADMIT THE GROTESQUELY HORRIFIC VICTIMIZATION EXPERIENCED DAILY.

It's time to buck the Illuminati's structured World System of the religious spirit promoting BONDAGE LOOPING.

Satanism is globally manufacturing subserviant obediance under the guise of colonialism, 'New Age' movement, war on 'terror' (truth & willpower actually)/drugs/environment, & white powdered gold's (Ormus) super-conducting highway to 'enlightenment'.

Stay tuned...crunch time approaching...

JBoy
11-12-2010, 04:38 PM
List of 'Network'/NWO abusers:

AC/DC Satanic rock band
Ade, Henry - CIA/drug dealer/ Monarch slave abuser
Aga Khan IV, H.H. Prince Karim - Satanist/leader of Ismaili Muslims
Alabama country music group - Satanists/Monarch slave handlers
Bailey, John - slave abuser
Barnes, Don - slave abuser/in co. sheriff's office
Benson, Ezra Taft - Satanist/ leader of LDS church, Church of Jesus Christ, Administration Building

Bowers, Wilber D. - Illum. Ipsimus/Monarch programmer/CIA drug dealer
Brown, Edmund G. (Jerry) Jr. - Illum. satanist/ CA politician/ slave abuser
Brown, Charlie - Air Force Intel./murderer/Monarch slave abuser
Bundy, McGeorge - Illum.
Byrd, Robert C. - Satanist/programmer/W. VA senator
Clinton, Hillary - Illum. witch/slave handler
Cochran, Hank - CIA drug kingpin
Cox, Wayne - Satanic high priest/Monarch handler/serial killer
Dante, Michael (Michael Vitti) - Monarch slave abuser/porn maker
Day, Brad - slave abuser/coke pusher
Drake, Jim (& son) - slave abusers/porn & drug dist
Fonda, Peter
Fonda, Jane
Gavoruhk, John - police chief working for Illum. protecting monarch programmers/handlers

Grace, J. Peter - business leader/Illum.
Grateful Dead - Satanic cult rock band/Illum. coke dist.
Greene, Jack - CIA/white slavery/Monarch slave abuser/country entertainer
Haggard, Merle - slave abuser/country singer
Hestbeck, Vaugn - Monarch abuser/Danish coke. dist.
List of 'Network'/NWO abusers (cont'd):

Hope, Bob-->slave owner/slave handler with intel. agencies
Houston, Alex-->Satanist/Monarch programmer
Hummell, Ed-->Monarch programmer
Humperdink, Englebert
King Juan Carlos I-->King of Spain/Illum.
KISS Satanic rock band
Kissinger, Henry-->Illum./P2 Freemason
Kreskin-->occultist
Lang, Velton-->white slavery/drug running
Lewis, Jerry Lee-->Monarch programmer/musician
MacLaine, Shirley-->actress/author/'New Age' occultist
Madonna-->Satanist/Monarch slave
Manson, Charles-->Satanist/Monarch slave & handler
Martin, Diane-->CIA drug dealer/Monarch abuser
McKee, Lloyd-->drug dealer/Monarch abuser
McQuinn, Mike-->slave handler/money launderer
Meadows, Hal-->Dir. of CIA's near-death programming center (Swiss Villa Ampetheater)
Merrit, Jeff-->CIA drug runner/slave abuser
Mitterand, Francois Maurice Marie-->Illum./close to Rothschilds/Pres. of France
Nelson, Willie-->singer/Monarch handler
Nunn, Sam-->Illum.
O'Brien, Earl-->CIA Monarch abuser
Overstreet, Tommy-->CIA/white slavery
Parton, Dolly-->Satanist
Pope John Paul (AKA Karol Wojtyla)-->Illum./Freemason
Pride, Charley-->slave abuser/white slavery/country singer
Prophet, Ronnie-->Satanist/Monarch slave runner
Queen Beatrix (Wilhelmina Armagard)-->Illum./Queen of Netherlands
Reynolds, Dr. Herbert H.-->Illum./Univ. CEO (Baylor)
Riley, Ken-->CIA/Neo-Nazi/Loretta Lynn's handler-road manager
Rockefellar, Winthrop-->Illum. kingpin/porn dealer
Rorick, David (AKA Dave Roe)-->Satanist/white slavery
Rose, Ivan-->CIA/white slavery/Monarch abuser
Ryan, Dr. Michael N.-->Illum. doctor/slave surgery-maintenance
Smith, Dan-->car & drug dealer/slave abuser
Stevens, Jim-->Monarch abuser/drug runner
Tanis, Bob-->CIA/Air Force Intel./Monarch abuser/mafia/pornographer
Train, Russell-->Club of Rome
Trump, Donald-->Illum.
Vanderpool, Darcy-->Monarch programmer
Walker, Jimmy-->Monarch abuser/pornographer
Warlock, Billy-->actor
Westberry, Kent-->songwriter/Satanist/white slavery

Illuminati Companies (some):

-Air America; CIA front
-Cargill, Inc.;Illum. ran grain cartel
-Dungeon Masster, Desmodus Inc.;hard gay-porn/S & M publisher
-Eli Lilly & Co.;Illum. drug company
-Machinery International, Inc.; CIA front
-Rothschild Pediatric Group; Metairie/Destrehan, LA
-Southern Air Transport; CIA front
-Summit Aviation; CIA front

JBoy
11-12-2010, 05:42 PM
No, I have not been drinking !!



Dr. Jensen-->CIA programmer for Candy Jones ( birth name Jessica Wilcox & CIA alias Arlene Grant). 'Candy' received programming @ CIA's, 'The Farm', Camp Peary.

Dr. William Jennings Bryan helped in CIA programming.

Naval psychologist Lt. Comdr. Thomas Narut contributed ideas to develop mind-controlled assassins.

Dr. James monroe worked for CIA's mind-control programming.


Monarch mind-control p[rogrammers:
Morse Allen
Lt. Col. John Alexander
Richard Dabney Anderson

Michael Aquino (program cover name-->'Malcolm', AKA 'Mickey to children, Betty Ford is his mother, Illum. bloodline, married to Lilith Sinclair)

Astor
Armstrong
Bill Bennett
Wilbur Bowers (program cover name-->'Billy Boy'; a Rothschild)
Dr. William Jennings Bryan
Burcham
Burnell-Hightower
Sen. Robert C. Byrd
Dr. D. Ewen Cameron (program cover name-->'Dr. White')
Sue Harper
Joe Circo
Mark Circo
Wayne Cox
Dr. Bernard Diamond
Michael Delaney (program cover name-->'Robin Hood'; Heinrich Mueller's son)
Russell G. Frazier
Gaston
Beth George (a Rothschild)
Clair George
Dr. Sydney Gottlieb
Col. Wilson Green
John Gunter (program cover name-->'Little John')
Haggin
Harrick in Denver, Co.
Col. Height (sp?)
Lawrence Hinkle
Alex Houston
Ed Hummel
Dr. Harris Isbell
Dr. Jensen
Johnson
Steve Kilgore
Kris Kristopherson
Helga LaRouche
Hank Levine
Jerry Lee Lewis
Dr. John Lilly
Col. Manassah
Irby Mandrell
Hal Meadows
Dr. Meiers (program cover name-->'Jolly Green Giant')
Seward Prosser Mellon (program cover name-->'Governor')
Dr. Josef Mengele (program cover name-->'Dr. Green')
Dr. Joseph A. Meyer
Ted V. Mikels
Dr. James Monroe
Heinrich Mueller (program cover name-->'Dr. Blue')
Theodore (program cover name-->'Teddy Bear'; Mueller's son)
Nathan
Lt. Comdr. Thomas Narut
Dr. Martin T. Orange
Owens
Col. Tom Parker
Patterson
Pete Peterson
Ken Riley
Rockefellar
David Long Rothschild
Gut de Rothschild
Savor
Alden Sears
Dr. Star (?)
Maj. Strange
Strong
Suttenfuss
Col. Taylor
Leo Taylor
Darcy Vanderpool
Weir
Kent Westberry
Leo Wheeler (program cover name-->'Dr. Black'; a Collins)
Robert Whitlow
Harold Wolff

Country music industry perpetraitors;
involved/knowledgeable of Monarch mind-control
(most involved in CIA's drug-runninning 'Network'):

Henry Ade
Alabama band
Atlanta
Bandana
Lynn Anderson
Jerry Barlow
Boxcar Willie
Ray Burdette
Glen Cambell
Ace Canon
Dee Clark
Roy Clark
David Allen coe
Pat Corn
Helen Cornelius
Wayne Cox
Dave DeBolt
Penny Dehaven
Charlie Dick
The Drifters
Roy Drusky
Narvel Felts
The Four Guys
Rnady & Judy Gatlin
Jim Glaser
Vern Gosdin
Jack Greene
Merle Haggard
Alex Houston (& Elmer)
Englebert Humperdink
Waylon Jennings
George Jones
The Judds
Merle Kilgore
Buddy Killen
Velton Lang
Hank Levine
Jerry Lee Lewis
Ernest Ray Lynn
Ronnie Lutric
Jack MacFadden
Reggie MacLaughlin
Brent Magor
Marty Martell
George Moffet
Lorrie Morgan
Bonnie Nelson
Oakridge boys
Merril Osmund
Tommy Overstreet
Jerry & Arlene Petty
Ray Pillow
Charlie Pride
Ronnie Prophet
Jeannie Pruett
giles Reeves
Dave Roe (Rorick)
Dave Roland (& sugar)
TG Sheppard
Hank Snow
Ronnie Stoneman
Jimmy Sturr
Jimmy Swaggart
Mel Tillis
Buck Trent
LeRoy VanDyke
Jim West
Mack Vickory
Bill Walker
Charlie Walker
Jim Webb
Dottie West
Shelly West
Kent Westberry
Bobby Whitton
The Wright Brothers

CHILD ABDUCTORS:
'Chucky' (AKA 'Mike', AKA 'Peters')
-->FBI hitman in Division 5 of FBI
-->involved with inslaw case

Nichol Harrah
-->FBI agent abducting children for sacrifice

Linda Krieg
-->Satanist working for FBI

Ken Lanning
-->FBI agent abducting children for sacrifice
-->claims SRA doesn't exist

Nick O'Hara
-->FBI hitman; Satanist covering up FBI child kidnappings by murdering witnesses

Kepe Richardson
-->CIA agent abducting children for sacrifice

CIA slave handlers/drug dealers:

Pat Bowlin
Bush (Sr. & Jr.)
Sue Carper (CIA ops Dir.)
Hank Cochran (drug overlord)
Alan Dulles
Diane Martin of Hawaii
Irby mandrell (controls other family member slaves-->Barbara, Louise & Iriene)
Jim Maynard; CIA covert ops Belize
Jeff Merrit; St. Thomas, U.S. Virgin Is.
Carl Misel
Jim Mithcell
Earl O'Brien
Linda Scale
Bob Tannis; w/Air Force Intel.

JBoy
11-13-2010, 05:51 AM
MOST of this material is not mine, authors are posted . I only post...I do not research most of this !!

I try to EXPOSE these criminals


All the names of the entertainment industry ....its open on the net..they will always pop up..

Do U know Cathy 'O Brian ??? I have compassion for all that went thur and still going thur !!......
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"Michael Aquino (program cover name-->'Malcolm', AKA 'Mickey to children, Betty Ford is his mother, Illum. bloodline, married to Lilith Sinclair ???


Betty Ford, President Gerald Ford's wife is the mother of Michael Aquino? OK, an error !!!
im not fool proof !! Lilith Sinclair correct ??
Please explain.
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Also, in another one of your posts, you've presented a group picture taken somewhere in the US and claim that HITLER is in this picture; alive and well in the US in 1997. I sure dont recollect that, but again, usually the author is posted..
That would mean that HITLER would have been 107 years old in that picture.If i posted that, i myself dont believe that !!! ..Ill take it down.. !!

And, what is the deal with claiming that someone who wasn't the President of the US was the President?....looks just like him !!!... how do u know it is not ?? its clear that Don Nicoloff was the author All the story From the April 2007 Idaho Observer: How can I prove that, im nobody !!! Mr Nicoloff perhaps !!!.. I say again, It SURE favors Bush sr. !!!!

Before you post any futher, answer my questions.

JBoy
11-13-2010, 06:39 AM
I do apologize, I thought this was a theroists forum ???!!!. I have learned from the history channel.. !! not being defensive at all !!!
I know BA will get the last word... and this is not an attact on BA.
I respect his/her position...

JBoy
11-13-2010, 06:43 AM
I think you've missed quite a few names.


OK, already, give um here, ill post um !!!!

JBoy
11-13-2010, 09:07 AM
BA:
U can not assume that everyone reads about u. i am new here..

I found this in a posting. We must never ASSUME !!

Now u have dileted for what ??? my threads. for you assuming...and being over what ???.. i did not mention something i knew nothing about...


Yes, they are far less credible then a women who thinks the C.I.A abducted her and (as far I gather) had Springsteen brainwash her. Oh, and said woman claims to have MPD as well. Let's see:

1) Bruce Springsteen messed with your head, hmm..sounds rational to me
2) The C.I.A, with all their involved in, just HAD to abduct you and do ghoulish things to you. I suppose that must make you feel pretty special. After all, I can honestly say I have never been abducted by Greys or had the C.I.A abduct me in their super secret "Black Helicopters" everyone knows about.

JBoy
12-04-2010, 05:23 PM
Ive been gone !!!!

Is that ur wish upon me ??
well, may ur christmas be the same !!!That sounds evil and masonic !!!.
I quoted that from someone else, i did not say anything about u. u damn nut !!!
get off of prozac. Get drunk... get well.....jingle bells up urs !!!! LOL !!!!!

JBoy
12-04-2010, 06:56 PM
Look Blue Angel.
I found that shit on u your site.. , a posting. i forgot where, u pissed someone off. i found it.. posted it. I would nevr say that !!!. I had no reason other than u deleting my threads. big deal !!!.. im not a vengeful person. masons piss me off. .. with there blabber...I wanted u to see it. though !!! others get pissed at u. im not the only one (was my point). Im sorry all that happened to u. I told u that.. I just started posting..
I knew nothing about u, including ur gender. U will find, im not going to find the post. i did not say that.
I am not not going down on anybodys record for being a cruel person.
Merry Christmas

I do know a lot... more than u..different CIA projects.. The Nazi CIA with Germans by the thousands on our military bases as i speak...

oldman60
12-18-2010, 06:17 PM
BlueAngel, I have a friend who has told me about being abused in her childhood. Her father was with the U.S. Air Force at the close of the 1940s, she suffers from dissociative disorder, and her current husband is a retired Air Force major, whom she met about 7 years ago. These would all seem like coincidences, except I went to a Memorial Day party at her place earlier this year. As with everyone else, I took paper plates, food, and utensils. She and I met alone near where I ate, and when I partook of dessert and lifted my spoon, it was bent. It had been normal when I'd had the main course. I'm wondering if her current husband is a handler. He seems too self-assured.

JBoy
12-30-2010, 02:48 PM
The Evil Behind The Music Industry (Ex-Illuminatus explains)

September 6, 2010 by POPEYE (http://www.federaljack.com/?author=7)
Filed under Occult (http://www.federaljack.com/?cat=60)


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