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BlueAngel
06-25-2007, 10:47 PM
As it was said to me, the minute we hear you talking...

Really?

How would you hear me talking?

Oh, the walls have ears, do they?

We will watch you for the rest of your life!!

Well, NOW WE'RE watching YOU!!!

BlueAngel
06-26-2007, 07:34 AM
If you think "Darkness on the Edge of Town, The Rising, Devils and Dust and Bruce Springsteen and The Seeger Sessions Band" are political albums than you probably think the same about "Born to Run."

That's okay. You're brainwashed. We understand.

BlueAngel
06-26-2007, 09:03 AM
The Voice Lyrics
Artist(Band):Crest Of Darkness

You don't know what you're facing.
You don't know what to believe.

From deep inside.
From out of nowhere.
It occupies your mind.
It's like a possession.
Youre trying to say stop.
You know you can't give up.
you're trying to find
another direction.

I'm the voice in your head.
I'm the voice and you're my slave.

I'm the voice in your head.
I'm the voice and you're my slave.

You thought you'd lost your sense of reality.
You thought you was the only one.

You know it's too late.
You know you can't escape.
You're out of control.
You can't avoid the future.
You're trying to wake up
But this is not a dream.
Your cry of distress
is absoluyely helpless.

I'm the voice in your head.
I'm the voice and you're my slave.
and you're my slave.

Shadow
06-26-2007, 11:08 AM
I can't imagine asking questions of anonymous individuals who claim to be experts in their field of study.

For all we know, the answers could be supplied form a computer generated program.

BlueAngel
06-26-2007, 01:46 PM
Even worse, would be from you or someone of your caliber.

BlueAngel
06-26-2007, 09:45 PM
I think the next topic of converstation should focus around those persons who mix, engineer and remaster CD's.

Don't you love it when they re-produce a CD of old songs and say that it's been REMASTERED?

It's more than obvious that Bob Dylan and Bruce Springsteen are not excellent guitar players, nor are their voices at this point in their careers and even before this time, the same that we hear on a CD.

Springsteen can hardly carry and tune and because of this, he appears to be screaming, yelling, blood vessels bulging in his neck when he is performing live.

I went to a Bob Dylan show two decades ago and my husband and I walked out.

We thought there was something wrong with the acoustics in the arena.

We went to a Bob Dylan show a few years ago and his voice didn't sound any better.

So, the men behind the scenes. The audio engineers, who mix new releases and remaster old releases certainly play a key role in delivering the sounds on a CD.

Do the bands show up for this?

I don't know. You hear rumors all the time about Springsteen in Atlanta working on a new E Street Band CD with Brendon O'Brien.

Are the rest of the band members there?

It's been said that some rock and roll band's songs have a message when played backwards.

Obviously, performing live, this would not be the case.

So, who put them there?

BlueAngel
06-26-2007, 10:30 PM
Throughout the pages of this thread, I'm certain it is abundantly clear that Bruce Springsteen was my MAIN handler.

I am also certain that throughout the pages of this thread, it is abundantly clear that I was a difficult SLAVE and had several handlers.

I have spoken through verse to Bruce Springsteen. I have answered some of his songs.

I have spoken through verse to Bob Dylan. I have answered some of his songs.

Bruce Springsteen and Bob Dylan were two of my handlers.

BlueAngel
06-26-2007, 11:10 PM
Somewhere amongst the pages of this thread, perhaps near the beginning, I referenced a song by Ringo Starr with the line:

"you're my PET, we feel in love on the night we meet."

Can't recall the title.

Does he still wear a "pinkie ring?"

Shadow
06-27-2007, 09:42 AM
All right!

I took my baby to a party last night, ah-hah-hah,
She was so beautiful, she made me uptight, ah-hah-hah,
Up came a butcher with her ju jus alight, ah-hah-hah,
It's all da-da-da-down to goodnight vienna.

Felt like a bohunk but i kept up my cool, ah-hah-hah,
Green as a frog, man, i was back into school, ah-hah-hah,
Zipped up my mouth 'cause i was starting to drool, ah-hah-hah,
It's all da-da-da-down to goodnight vienna.

Get it up!
Get it up!
Get it up!
Get it up!

She said she loved me but i knew she was lying, ah-hah-hah,
Felt like an arab who was dancing through zion, ah-hah-hah,
Don't call no doctor when you just feel like crying, ah-hah-hah,
It's all da-da-da-down to goodnight vienna.

Get it up! (keep it up!)
Get it up! (keep it up!)
Get it up! (keep it up!)
Get it up! (keep it up!)

I took my baby to a party last night, ah-hah-hah,
She was so beautiful, she made me uptight, ah-hah-hah,
Up came a butcher with his needles in sight, ah-hah-hah,
It's all down to goodnight vienna.

Shadow
06-27-2007, 09:43 AM
People like you see it comin' a mile off,
Find it hard stayin' in line.
It's not that no one really hears you,
Just that nobody really cares.
Like someone who's just seen the light,
Like someone looking for a fight.
Same thing ev'ry day, being foolish,
Being asked to lose your seat.
Don't look to me askin'
To be helped up to your feet.

Don't you know you're a dead giveaway?
You're a dead giveaway,
You're a dead giveaway,
You're a dead giveaway,
You're a dead giveaway,
Dead giveaway.

Don't look to me 'cause i know your game,
Nonsense merchant, hall of fame.
Take it or leave it, you're a blind drunk,
And if you ain't that, you're far too stoned.

'Cause you're a dead giveaway,
Smell a rat in ev'rything you do.
Well, you're a dead giveaway,
Asked to leave ev'rywhere you go.
People say you're a dead giveaway,
Dead giveaway,
Dead giveaway,
Dead giveaway.

Somebody knockin' at the door!

You're a dead giveaway,
I've seen you happy all the time.
Don't live lonely life,
Dead giveaway.

Well, it's a dead giveaway,
You're a dead giveaway,
Dead giveaway,
Nobody really cares,
Dead giveaway.

Dead giveaway,
Dead giveaway,
Dead giveaway,
Dead giveaway.

BlueAngel
06-27-2007, 10:21 AM
Wonderful choice of songs to dedicate to yourself.

BlueAngel
06-27-2007, 10:52 AM
The cult uses the pack mentality of animals.
Slaves are treated like dogs. Those inside the cult, their slaves are not to "stray from the pack."

Obey on command and reduced to animal instinct behavior without inhibition through BETA programming.

Your handler is your master, your owner, same as a dog.

You are disciplined for bad behavior, of course. Taught a lesson. Food, water withheld and torture, for myself, because as I've said, I wasn't a GOOD slave. I tried to DEFY them every step of thew way. For this, I suffered immensely.

We were treated like dogs. Collars on our necks, leashes sometimes. Bark like a dog and Baaawaaahhh like a sheep. Beg for food like a dog. Pant like a dog. Get up on all fours.

I don't like talking about this. OKAY!

I have memories of being in a house somewhere in the woods. I look out to the right of me and there is a window. I can see trees. It is small house. I am there alone.

As I've said, food and water in a dish. Collar on my neck. Chained to something. Perhaps lying in my own feces.

Left there for days at a time.

There may have been visits by his friends because I would say, "you leave me here alone, say you'll be right back, don't come back for days and your friends come." I don't like your friends. I can't stand your friends and I particularly loathe DYLAN. I don't want anything to do with you or your friends or your cult.

Untie me. Take this shit off my neck. Let me out of this cage. Get me some food. Real food. Not dog food.

Are you going to behave? Maybe, I'd say.

And, when my owner would arrive, just like a dog, I was filled with joy.

JOY!! Can you imagine that? The joy soon passed when I was untied and realized that no matter what, I was still incarcerated amongst "sadistic pigs" who would continue to abuse me. I would continue to DEFY them and the vicious cycle would go on.

I WASN'T A GOOD SLAVE.

It would be said we were going here or there, but ultimately this was the final destination. This may have been the so-called safehouse. Not sure.

His friends would come and ride me like a mule. I cannot say anymore about this. But it involved similar sadistic behavior that occured at Abu Gharib.

And, yes, beastiality was involved.

To be alone and afraid, eating from dog dishes, chained and collared makes one dependent on the sadistic pig who did this.

He is the only one who can undo it.

SO, again, the abuser/protector role intertwined.

Just as a dog, dependent on your master for food, water, love and attention or you'll die. Dependent on your master for survival.

I'm not sure why when my owner returned I could hardly open my eyes.

I think I was just so happy that he was there. Afraid that if I opened my eyes, I may be delirious from deprevations and that he really wasn't there. But, then again, I may have been blindfolded and it was difficult to open my eyes into the light.

When your abusers place you in harm's way and you cannot speak to anyone about it or escape, they, of course, become your rescuers/protectors.

To not leave me alone again is what was said on the site.

Well, that is what he attempted to do. Suck me in. Make me believe through disinformation he rescued me from the cult, cut off communication with me, string me along in the hopes I would remain on the site and continue psychological operations to destroy me.

That, my friends, are not the attributes of a REAL MAN, but a very SICK MAN.

The problem for them is that I'm not alone; I'm not under their control and so I don't need them. They assumed I would feel that since they had information about my past, I would hang on and, as I've said, continue to emotionally destroy me.

As Dylan said, "women in cages."

Yes, we were kept in cages sometimes.

It's time to come out of your cage.

Time to perform.

Do you want to go back in your cage?

Then obey!!

Come when you're called. Do as you say. Respond just like a dog to commands.

roscoe
06-27-2007, 05:08 PM
It is most distressing to read the accounts of your experiences. Unfortunatly, because of the fallen nature of mankind, this type of thing is common.

Elton John has a song on his first album called The Cage-where you're fit to be whipped and be tamed.

Freedom is on it's way however. After the three days of darkness all the corrupt DNA will be purged(Photon Belt) from Civilisation. St.'s Peter and Paul will return to Earth and oversee the election of a Successor to St. Pius X.

See http://www.todayscatholicworld.com

BlueAngel
06-27-2007, 07:07 PM
Although Bernie Taupin writes Elton John's songs, there is no doubt in my mind that Elton John is a victim, as well.

"Sir Elton," "Sir Paul." Knighted by the Queen.

Bernie Taupin, probably the same.

Afterall, he writes the lyrics.

Many of Elton John's lyrics speak to the cult.

Rod Stewart's song, "Tonight's the Night," has a line that reads:

"Spread your wings and let me come inside."

I'm sure you can imagine what this references.

But, it is also a position we had to take on a table, with knees bent outward and feet sole to sole.

This was referred to as our butterfly wings.

Certain rituals were performed, drugs administered until we felt a floating feeling, like we were flying away.

Or, as Tom Petty says it, "Free-falling."

As, Bono referred to Springsteen's mental state during his Tunnel of Love tour, "we knew he was spinning and free-falling."

The spin cycle can be set in motion where you are just out of control. Your mind is spinning. Out of reality. Acting and behaving on impulses only.

There were spinning machines as well that were used on children. Whether they used these to program future "spinning" cycles, I'm not sure. But, I can't imagine them using these on adults.

Elton John's song, "Butterfiles are Free to Fly."

"Someone saved my life tonight, rolling round the basement floor. HYPTONIZED, sweet freedom whispered in my ear..."

Fleetwood Mac's song, "You got me hypnotized."

You see, there is a most distressing factor to all of this.

Those who are forced into the cult whether through genealogy, talented, etc., are a PRODUCT OF THEIR ENVIRONMENT.

You are corrupted to the core from a very young age.

As children, is this what we would have chosen otherwise?

YOU ARE A PRODUCT OF YOUR ENVIRONMENT and there is no escaping that environment.

Perhaps, you were raised by abusive parents, but not part of the cult, there is still a 99 percent chance you will be an abusive person.

They look for talented children from abusive families; those whom already have learned the mechanism of disassociation.

They are perfect candidates.

Certainly, Michael Jackson's father has been accused of being abusive and obviously Michael Jackson was running a "mind control" and/or child pornography ring for them at NeverLand.

They prey on the less fortunate, those without resources to fight them.

Or, they big pay-off as, I believe Jackson did in one circumstance when he was accused.

The same for me. They wanted to give me a big pay-off. They still do.

I would have to agree with Wes Penre that perhaps many musicians live in fear for their lives. You cannot stray from the pack. You are trapped. You live by a "Code of Silence."

In most cases, a musician wouldn't go public about this, whether individually or with other musicians, because pedophilia is their life now. Pictures exist.

Are they going to call a press conference, inform the public that a "satanic cult" controls them, the music industry and, ummmm, by the way we're pedophiles, but we were forced to partake in these activities. No. They were not. They did so of their own free will.

And, we don't write our own music; we sing the songs that are given to us by "ghost writers," because we're part of the conspiracy to corrupt your children's minds.

We paid the price for fortune and fame.

Like I said, get them young, addicted to drugs and corrupt their minds, bodies and souls.

You can say that you were a victim. But, is this what you want to the public to know about you? That you commit acts of pedophila on "sex slaves," who are sometimes locked in cages. That you are as "sadistic" as the rest of them. That you are no better.

Who then would be locked in a cage? Should they all receive amnesty for their horrendous deeds because they are victims?

Most probably not. They are adults. And at this point, very ILL and in need of psychiatric help.

Should they be allowed amongst society, around children?

They're careers would be over. Face jail time, perhaps. Children taken away from them.

So, most of them have no way out!

It's a very fine line.

For me, I was a minor, so "blackmail" is not a factor. Although I was threatened with this, I assured them, it was not of my choosing and I WAS A MINOR. Those who took photographs, those who forced me to partake in disgusting activities are the perpetrators of these crimes.

They seek to enslave all of us whether directly incarcerated in their "cult," an elitist, etc., through "mind control" and psychological operations, that are unbeknownst to the majority of the masses and which have been ongoing for decades.

It is to surrender your "free will" either through trauma-based torture such as is the practice in MKULTRA/Project Monarch or through other avenues of manipulation which they deploy as I stated above.

BlueAngel
06-27-2007, 07:19 PM
The Cage
Music by Elton John
Lyrics by Bernie Taupin

Have you ever lived in a cage
Where you live to be whipped and be tamed
For I've never loved in a cage
Or talked to a friend or just waved

Well I walk while they talk about virtue
Just raised on my back legs and snarled
Watched you kiss your old daddy with passion
And tell dirty jokes as he died

But I'm damned when I really care there
For the cellar's the room in your lives
Where you lace yourself with bad whiskey
And close the cage doors on your life

Well I pray while you bathe in bad water
Sing songs that I learnt as a boy
Then break all the bones in my body
On the bars you can never destroy

---------------------------------------------

The third line in the last verse is something they always repeated.

The threats were constant.

"We'll break every bone in your body."

"We'll cut you up in little pieces and feed you to the sharks."

BlueAngel
06-27-2007, 08:36 PM
Rolling Stones
Sister Morphine
(M. Jagger/K. Richards/M. Faithfull)

Here I lie in my hospital bed
Tell me, Sister Morphine, when
are you coming round again?
Oh, I don't think I can wait that long
Oh, you see that I'm not that strong
The scream of the ambulance is sounding in my ears
Tell me, Sister Morphine, how long have I been lying here?
What am I doing in this place?
Why does the doctor have no face?
Oh, I can't crawl across the floor
Ah, can't you see, Sister Morphine, I'm trying to score
Well it just goes to show
Things are not what they seem
Please, Sister Morphine, turn my nightmares into dreams
Oh, can't you see I'm fading fast?
And that this shot will be my last
Sweet Cousin Cocaine, lay your cool cool hand on my head
Ah, come on, Sister Morphine, you better make up my bed
'Cause you know and I know in the morning I'll be dead
Yeah, and you can sit around, yeah and you can watch all the
Clean white sheets stained red.


-----------------------------------------------

Fading away seems to be a theme in many songs. I assume it speaks to drug use.

"Thing are not what they seem."

BlueAngel
06-27-2007, 08:49 PM
Quite often, I would say, you treat me like a dog. Well, you're in training would be the reply.

I'm not an animal, I'd say and, besides, you treat me worse than anyone who owns a dog or pet would treat them.

You're suppose to love your pets, treat them kindly. They look to you for comfort, food, etc., all the things they can't get themselves.

I love my dog and I never treat him like you treat me.

I don't hit him.

Geez! This is making me quite sad because I'm thinking about the Collie we had when we were children and it was dear to me.

I loved that dog. I probably loved him so much because he gave me unconditional love which was something I didn't receive from the people in my life.

I'm a human and you treat me like I'm some kind of a slave, I told him.

Slavery doesn't exist anymore, or don't you know that?

Ah, but it does, he'd say.

You're my slave and I'm your master.

What am I in training for, anyway?

WE HAVE BIG PLANS FOR YOU.

What kind of plans.

To be a rising star in the music industry.

I'm going to take you under my wing.

I'm going to train you.

It's all a part of the process, he said.

It's not so strange that Springsteen referred to himself and the others who practiced with him at the house that was opened for them as a bunch of misfits.

I remember it being said that he was a misfit. Didn't fit in at school either. Everyone thought he was strange.

Maybe it was more like this, "they're both a couple of misfits."

Those two boys, they're no good. A couple of troublemakers.

They're all a bunch of misfits.

You know, they use the "tools" of the trade on their audience, fans, the "tricks," if you will and the men behind the scenes, the mixers, the engineers, they fine-tune it all.

You're not going to tell me that these rock and roll bands spend every waking hour composing music, writing lyrics, etc.

NO! This is what many behind the scenes do for them.

They write it, they compose it and the band members learn to play it and sing it.

I'm not saying 100 percent of the time, but alot of the time.

BlueAngel
06-27-2007, 08:51 PM
Looking for lyrics to Rolling Stones song:

"Now, I've Got a Witness."

roscoe
06-27-2007, 08:54 PM
Blue Angel; you are obviously in tune with some of the research I am doing. I do not see the Beatles as part of all this, at least in the beginning; this in spite of the 'evidence' put out by LaRouche and J. Coleman.

I do believe that Lennon was subjected to something like a lobotomy or treppaning sometime late in 1968.

Have you read Garbage People by Gilmore and Kenner?; it is about the Manson Family.

Leon Russell is apparently part of this; he plays organ on Sinatra's album Stangers in the Night and on That's Life also. Sinatra starred in the Manchurian Candidate.

BlueAngel
06-27-2007, 09:54 PM
roscoe wrote:
Blue Angel; you are obviously in tune with some of the research I am doing. I do not see the Beatles as part of all this, at least in the beginning; this in spite of the 'evidence' put out by LaRouche and J. Coleman.

I see the Beatles as a BIG PART of it. I have written about that on this thread. It's well-known they came straight out of Tavistock. They were the beginning of the introduction of culture change (psychological operations); the introduction of drugs, messages in lyrics, mystery (Paul is Dead); the altering of brain chemistry combined with music/tones and drugs. They didn't write their lyrics or at least not many of them. Their manager was inducted into the Hall of Fame for his lyrical input.

I do believe that Lennon was subjected to something like a lobotomy or treppaning sometime late in 1968.

Why do you believe this? I may have information, as well.

Have you read Garbage People by Gilmore and Kenner?; it is about the Manson Family.

No.

Leon Russell is apparently part of this; he plays organ on Sinatra's album Stangers in the Night and on That's Life also. Sinatra starred in the Manchurian Candidate.

Yes, I know Sinatra starred in the Manchurian Candidate. I suspect most musicians are a part of it, Roscoe. It's not like you have much of a choice. Born, bred and raised just like at the FARM.

BlueAngel
06-27-2007, 09:56 PM
By the way, how long have you been researching mind control within the music industry?

roscoe
06-27-2007, 10:20 PM
BlueAngel wrote:

roscoe wrote:
Blue Angel; you are obviously in tune with some of the research I am doing. I do not see the Beatles as part of all this, at least in the beginning; this in spite of the 'evidence' put out by LaRouche and J. Coleman.

I see the Beatles as a BIG PART of it. I have written about that on this thread. It's well-known they came straight out of Tavistock. They were the beginning of the introduction of culture change (psychological operations); the introduction of drugs, messages in lyrics, mystery (Paul is Dead); the altering of brain chemistry combined with music/tones and drugs. They didn't write their lyrics or at least not many of them. Their manager was inducted into the Hall of Fame for his lyrical input.

I do believe that Lennon was subjected to something like a lobotomy or treppaning sometime late in 1968.

Why do you believe this? I may have information, as well.

Have you read Garbage People by Gilmore and Kenner?; it is about the Manson Family.

No.

Leon Russell is apparently part of this; he plays organ on Sinatra's album Stangers in the Night and on That's Life also. Sinatra starred in the Manchurian Candidate.

Yes, I know Sinatra starred in the Manchurian Candidate. I suspect most musicians are a part of it, Roscoe. It's not like you have much of a choice. Born, bred and raised just like at the FARM.This is a test

BlueAngel
06-27-2007, 10:23 PM
I'm not in school, Roscoe.

So, what kind of a test do you think you just conducted?

roscoe
06-27-2007, 10:36 PM
Blue Angel; it is not well known by me that the Beatles came ot of Tavistock. What actual evidence do you have for that? Sorry I haven't the time or eyestrength to peruse the history of this discussion, but if all you have is that Tavistock is in England or LaRouche or Dr. J. Coleman, that hardly come close to convincing me. J. Coleman doesn't even have a basic understanding of musical terminology. And besides that, the Beatles composed in a standard Tin Pan Ally style( at least through 1965).

I realise they become involved with MK somehow as time goes by; this is why I mentioned The Proceedure on John; it comes up in 3or4 books I have read on Beatles.

What I want is ACTUAL EVIDENCE that the Beatles come from Tavistock IN THE BEGINNING. All the Hippie stuff comes later.

It is interesting that someone who believes the Earth stationary thinks the Beatles MK ULTRA.

BlueAngel
06-27-2007, 11:01 PM
As far as Frank Sinatra, he was not my handler. This is what they would like me to say. It was implied on Springsteen's site when a poster's user's name was, "YouandmeFrank" and he asked if I rememberd Jabbolah. The creature with the horns.

It was also implied by another poster who began to speak of him and his music. His motives were clear.

Did I have contact with Frank Sinatra?

Yes. My memories tell me that I did.

He was connected to the Mafia. I was used in child pornography and my family had connections to the Mafia.

He quite often was on Miami Beach. I have written about memories regarding Meyer Lanskey's house and memories of being there.

I have memories of being introduced to Frank Sinatra perhaps in New York on my Uncle's yacht when I was maybe five years old.

The job that my father held did not compensate for the pretty dresses, etc. I believe this was supplied by THEM and income from my use in pornography.

I remember it being said that all of my pretty dresses, the extra money, etc., would be gone. They would take it all away if I didn't stop causing trouble. Defying them. I believe this utlimately happened. My father couldn't support us on his salary, my mother said. This was necessary. Almost as if she did it and it was just standard procedure. The only way to make ends meet.

They needed the extra income and for my parents this was normal. They were SICK people. VERY SICK PEOPLE. I am certain my mother was horribly abused. I'm not sure if she was placed in an orphange when she lost both parents at the age of 14, but, if so, I'm sure this is where they got their hands on her, as well. They prey on the "less fortunate."

Difficult for me to talk about my mother and father. Because, as I've said, YOU ARE A PRODUCT OF YOUR ENVIRONMENT. Whatever they endured, I'm sure was horrible, too. BUT, this must stop. If it was me who was going to stop this GOD awful cylce of abuse in my family, then so be it.

If it was me who was going to bring this public, then so be it.

If it is GOD's will, I will be his conduit!! We have a personal relationship. I do not rely on the BIBLE. I try to conduct myself as I believe God would want all of us to. What else would GOD want but for us to be kind, caring, respectful, truthful individuals. We were created in his image.

PORNOGRAPHY is the Devil's tool to corruption of the soul.

I don't need a religion to tell me if I do this, I'll go to hell. If I do that, I'll go to hell.

Do unto others as you would have other do unto you. Don't live with hate and jealousy. Live with compassion and empathy, sympathy, love in your heart. If you do, God will hold out his arms upon your arrival at the Pearly Gates. You will live for eternity.

I consider myself one of God's angels as HE has seen me through.

You do not have to be perfect. You are perfect when you are born. Created in GOD's image. It is THEM who corrupt us. It is THEM who alter our SOULS. It is THEM who strip us of morals and values. It is THEM who corrupt our minds from the moment we are born.

Back to topic:

I am certain pictures of me as a child were placed in "girlie magazines" and distributed worldwide. This is how they referred to them when I asked what they do with the pictures. "Girlie magazines." What are girlie magazines? I ask too many question was their response most of the time.

But, that is how I was trained. To ask questions. Be inquisitive. This is how I obtained information to pass on to my PROTECTORS. I had to be "innocent" enough about it so they didn't detect in the beginning.

I was YOUNG!

I really don't like the song with the line:

"Smile for the camera, and when you do, you know I like it better."

I think it's Steely Dan, not sure.

Smile for the camera, act like you're having fun. Can you believe this?

They would tell us what to do. This one here, put this there. AWFUL!

It was said that the "Big Boss" was coming to town when talking about Sinatra.

As far as I'm concerned, Springsteen's songs where he references a Frankie or Frank could be referencing Sinatra.

It is normal for men to have male handlers. You see it all the time. Women are usually not handlers of men.

I believe Sinatra lived in New Jersey, the mob in New Jersey, Springsteen in New Jersey.

Perhaps, this is really how Springsteen acquired the name, "The Boss."

He apparently seems to be "The Boss" amongst his piers. Bono did refer to him as their leader.

Maybe Frankie passed him the torch.

roscoe
06-27-2007, 11:21 PM
Blue Angel, There is something called HISTORICAL TRUTH and it is above and beyond what you or I think. If God(Jesus) created the world, then He must have created science and History also; there for they must be in harmony with His Spiritual Truths.

An MK Ultra victim can never completely recover: however my recommendation would be to study the Catholic Church as a historian. It is a remarkable experience to discover what has been kept from us.

You might try Isabella Of Spain and Philip II both by W. Walsh and available from TAN(this is not an endorsement of TAN). God Bless

BlueAngel
06-27-2007, 11:47 PM
roscoe wrote:
Blue Angel; it is not well known by me that the Beatles came ot of Tavistock. What actual evidence do you have for that? Sorry I haven't the time or eyestrength to peruse the history of this discussion, but if all you have is that Tavistock is in England or LaRouche or Dr. J. Coleman, that hardly come close to convincing me. J. Coleman doesn't even have a basic understanding of musical terminology. And besides that, the Beatles composed in a standard Tin Pan Ally style( at least through 1965).

I realise they become involved with MK somehow as time goes by; this is why I mentioned The Proceedure on John; it comes up in 3or4 books I have read on Beatles.

What I want is ACTUAL EVIDENCE that the Beatles come from Tavistock IN THE BEGINNING. All the Hippie stuff comes later.

It is interesting that someone who believes the Earth stationary thinks the Beatles MK ULTRA.

First of all, Roscoe, I asked you a question and I see you have not answered it.

Explain what your comment, "this is a test means."

Secondly, I'm not trying to convince you of anything nor I am required to and I certainly don't have to provide you with any evidence regarding the Beatles or anything for that matter.

If you want to know about Tavistock and the Beatles; google it.

Someone had a labotomy and it wasn't my father.

It is interesting that someone who belives in MKULTRA (a conspiracy); wouldn't believe that another conspiracy such as the Earth does not move could exist.

You need not put words in my mouth, Roscoe. I have not given an opinion regarding the Earth tread.

BlueAngel
06-27-2007, 11:51 PM
roscoe wrote:
Blue Angel, There is something called HISTORICAL TRUTH and it is above and beyond what you or I think. If God(Jesus) created the world, then He must have created science and History also; there for they must be in harmony with His Spiritual Truths.

An MK Ultra victim can never completely recover: however my recommendation would be to study the Catholic Church as a historian. It is a remarkable experience to discover what has been kept from us.

You might try Isabella Of Spain and Philip II both by W. Walsh and available from TAN(this is not an endorsement of TAN). God Bless

Roscue, firstly, don't lecture me. Secondly, since you're not an expert in the field of "mind control" or a medical professional, I would advise that you keep your opinions to yourself regarding recovery of MKULTRA victims.

I would also recommend that you not offer recommendations unless solicited.

Yes, it is remarkable to discover what has been kept from us particularly in this thread.

BlueAngel
06-28-2007, 08:53 AM
So, if you don't think the Beatles were manufactured, you must believe they created their initial "public image" on their own.

They came to America looking like some innocent, clean-cut kids. Cute clothes, cute haircuts.

They booked themselves on the Ed Sullivan show?

What? You don't think there are people in the business who create a public persona for their musicians?

Come on!!

What did John Landau say? We know, we know.

"I saw the future of rock and roll...."

People are like sheep. People are extremely suggestible and even more so when they listen to the same music/songs over and over again.

Brainwashed!

They introduced their "Silly little love songs."

Love, love me do. Help, I need somebody. Not much depth.

What happened after they had all the screaming girls fixated on them; what happened after they had attracted a huge fan base?

The usual.

They changed. Their lyrics changed. They became immersed in drugs.

How odd, isn't it? LSD used to enhance creativity. Why, of course. If you're looking through the world while TRIPPING, no doubt.

It's the bait and switch, like I've explained.

YOU CANNOT ALWAY USE YOUR OWN MATERIAL. You have to use lyrcis provided by "ghost writers," your handler/manager or someone like Bernie Taupin. Without Bernie, what's Elton going to do? Play the piano?

I never wanted to sing songs that were written by someone else to promote their agenda.

That's not me, I would say. That's not what I feel. They are someone else's words.

And, I didn't want anyone else singing my lyrics.

BlueAngel
06-28-2007, 12:56 PM
Roscoe,

THERE is no such thing as HISTORICAL TRUTH.

It's all been buried, hidden, and replaced with their LIES.

For how long?

Since the dawn of time.

The truth as we know it is not the truth in most cases.

There are scores of intellectuals who have been studying the Illuminati for decades. They have been working to spread the truth and awaken the masses. This is not an easy job when the truth is something most people have been brainwashed to reject. I, too, have joined them in their endeavor.

This is not an easy job when they OWN the Media.

It is to re-write history, if you will. Which, no doubt, is cumbersome and can be depressing at times.

It is an attempt to FREE humanity from THEM.

Most people's perception of reality has been created for them from cradle to grave. A "dream world," if you will."

The transformation from "dream world" to reality is a difficult journey.

What the brain has learned from cradle to grave about AMERICA is wrong!!!

It has been a slow and tedious process, but, the time has come.

In Peace,
BlueAngel

roscoe
06-28-2007, 01:59 PM
Paul McCartney gave a concert in Hollywood last night. Is that a Historical Truth?

The US Congress just rejected the Immigration Bill: Is that a Historical Truth?

Thats just a lie when you say there is no such thing as Historical Truth.

BlueAngel
06-28-2007, 02:16 PM
roscoe wrote:
Paul McCartney gave a concert in Hollywood last night. Is that a Historical Truth?

The US Congress just rejected the Immigration Bill: Is that a Historical Truth?

Thats just a lie when you say there is no such thing as Historical Truth.

IMO, if there is miscommunication between two individuals jumping to name-calling is a little premature.

HISTORICAL; of the study of a subject; looking at its' development over a period.

By subject, we're not referencing individuals.

I'm referring to the HISTORY of America and the World.

BlueAngel
06-28-2007, 02:21 PM
Okay, I shouldn't have said there is NO historical truth.

I'll rephrase that:

There is little HISTORICAL truth that is known to us.

There, feel better, Roscoe?

BlueAngel
06-28-2007, 02:53 PM
I just found out that a Springsteen song, "The Big Muddy," is considered political.

Q: What about the songs he selected? Some critics wished for a more political slant, like 'Bring Them Home,' 'Waist Deep in the Big Muddy' or 'King Henry.'

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The Big Muddy
Bruce Springsteen

Billy had a mistress down on 'A' and 12th
She was that little somethin' that he did for himself
His own little secret didn't hurt nobody
Come the afternoon he'd take her wadin'

Waist deep in the big muddy
Waist deep in the big muddy
You start out standing but end up crawlin'

Got in some trouble and needed a hand from a friend of mine
This old friend he had a figure in mind
It was nothing illegal just a little bit funny
He said "C'mon don't tell me that the rich don't know
Sooner or later it all comes down to money"

And you're waist deep in the big muddy
Waist deep in the big muddy
You start on higher ground but end up crawlin'

Well I had a friend said "You watch what you do
Poison snake bites you and you're poison too"

How beautiful the river flows and the birds they sing
But you and I we're messier things
There ain't no one leavin' this world buddy
Without their shirttail dirty
Or their hands bloody

Waist deep in the big muddy
Waist deep in the big muddy
You start on higher ground but end up somehow crawlin'

Seriously, I must really be missing something in this song. I mean, WOW, what a heavy duty political song!!!

Read the lyrics:

Ain't no one leavin' this world without their hands bloody.

Poison snakes bite you and you're poison, too

Billy took his little something wadin' waist deep in the big muddy.

You start on higher ground but end up somehow crawlin'

BlueAngel
06-28-2007, 03:06 PM
I can't imagine that critics wished for a more serious political slant.

Sounds made-up to me.

Yes, they were all just sittin' around wishing Springsteen would be more political.

If only he would sing more political songs and save us from the evil doers. Yep, that ought to do it. Cause we're countin' on his music to oust the "satanic cult" from power.

Oops!! He's one of them.

His political statement on Nightline with Ted Koppel a few years back.

"I don't agree with Bush's foreign policy."

WOW!!! Really???

There's a bunch of us who don't either.

Oh, because he and a group of artists comprised the Vote for Change Tour.

Yep!! That really changed the outcome of the election.

Made good money for the music industry, I'm sure.

There's a sucker born every minute.

Oh, because Springsteen played at a rally in Ohio for Kerry, SKULL and BONES member.

Oh, because Kerry used Springsteen's, "Land of Hope and Dreams" while he was campaigning.

Oh, because he yelled out at one of his concerts, IMPEACH THE PRESIDENT!

Yep, real political influence, that Springsteen has all over the world.

I watched a clip of the interveiw with Springsteen and Solidad O'Brien. He was giggling and interrupting constantly.

He blamed the media and then said, "present company included."

Another female put-down, right in her face on national television.

Very gracious. Such manners.

Good way to get your POLITICAL views across.

And, by the way, the papparzzi aren't interested in Springsteen's every move.

He's a musician. Nothing more, but much less.

I'd love to see the lyrics to King Henry.

Bruce Springsteen did NOT write Bring Them Home.

And, why was it when he performed for MTV's unplugged, he had to be PLUGGED??

BlueAngel
06-28-2007, 04:09 PM
As is obvious, I have personal disdain for Bruce Springsteen.

I do, however, attempt to be fair and balanced when I write about him with regard to his public persona, his music and his talent.

I am re-interpreting that which has been purposely misrepresented and misinterpreted.

BlueAngel
06-28-2007, 07:47 PM
I didn't watch the clip of Cathy O'Brien, but it is distressing, to say the least, in that I have written the same.

How could this be?

This doesn't happen in America.

It happens elsewhere around the globe.

Children incarcerated in mind control programs; used in CIA/Mafia pornography; used to sexually blackmail politicians; children in cages; sex slaves in the music industry; children snuffed out in porn films; our world controlled by a "satanic cult."

How can this be?

This doesn't happen in America.

It happens elsewhere around the globe.

BlueAngel
06-28-2007, 09:33 PM
I'm sure many of you are aware that when I pose questions, most times I am asking them of myself to gain access to information that has been compartmentalized in my brain.

Such as, if the sun revolves around earth and earth is stationary, is Earth then suspended in mid-air.

This sentence reverberates. When I experience reverberation or repeating it signifies to me that I asked this in the past and there is more information to come.

As you can imagine, there was much scrambling, much disinformation embedded.

As you can also imagine, my brain is working overtime searching and retrieving.

It is not in overload as in the beginning in order to neutralize, spinning effect, but it is sifting and sorting.

This sometimes can be taxing on my state of being so I appreciate the downtime when you deemed it was necessary.

I need not concern myself with attempting to force retrieval. Retrieval presents itself when it is approprite.

So, this brings me to Christopher Hitchen's book, "God is not Great."

The title disturbs me profoundly.

I was reading a summary of his book on Wikipedia and I find it interesting that he professes he would have no problem if all religion was abolished.

As if GOD died and made him BOSS.

It brings me to the question, "If there is ONE GOD, why are there so many different belief systems as to his words?"

This brings us back to divide and conquer.

BlueAngel
07-04-2007, 09:35 PM
Are we not tiring of soft-porn being shoved down our throats, our children's throats?

I am!

The constant exposure of sexual content within cinema, television and music serves to divide love from sex and in a "covert" way install Beta programming upon our children.

The message received is that love equals sex and sex equals love.

The same divide and conquer tactic is used in this way to destroy the fabric of our society; family.

Other means to destroy family (social engineering) are used as well through the constant exposure of homosexual and lesbian acts.

A relationship/marriage/bond cannot survive on the premise alone that sex equals love and love equals sex, but this is the "message" being sent to our children.

When I say that Beta programming is being installed, I am speaking to the desensitization of a once sacred act between a man and a woman.

Let's throw in, too, their constant pushing of Viagra upon the male population and internet pornography.

As YOU are aware, mind control victims and children are used in pornography. They are exposed to it over and over again. They become desensitized in this way and BETA programming installed to heighten what has already been developed.

For them, abuse equals love. Love equals sex. Sex equals love especially between themselves and their handler(s)/controller(s).

BlueAngel
07-04-2007, 10:39 PM
I guess what I'm trying to say is to program our youth to have "lack of inhibition," to act on their impulses.

TO REDUCE US TO ANIMAL INSTINCTS/BEHAVIOR.

On another note, I just have to wonder when a musician releases a new CD, such as Paul McCartney, and he includes another "silly love song."

I mean, seriously, didn't he just divorce Heather?

Is this love song for her?

Does he have a new love in his life?

BlueAngel
07-04-2007, 11:54 PM
Dropping hints of my whereabouts and stalking me is SICK.

Do you think I care?

Do you think I care if you watch me for the rest of my life?

I would assume you already know the answer to this question as I gave it to you in the past.

I could care less!

It only reflects on your true identify and illness.

Who, in their right mind would say that they realize they can't make someone love them, so they'll stalk them, hoping they panic and give in?

The obvious answer is that no one in their right mind would think that way.

NO ONE!!

BlueAngel
07-05-2007, 12:01 AM
Oh, about five years ago, after recently waking up, speaking to someone via email, I said, "release the pictures."

This was a subconscious statement.

I knew there were pictures of me in compromising situtations, and I was indicating that whatever the "fallout," I didn't care.

JUSTICE was more important.

In hindsight, I realize now that the pictures of me were taken when I was a minor and, therefore, pose no threat.

The pictures also speak of HIM. Pictures of HIM in compromising situations with other "little girls," and/or perhaps myself, as well.

These pictures were shown to me by my protectors and are in their possession.

Release the pictures!!

BlueAngel
07-05-2007, 12:12 AM
Really?

This is the best you can do:

A woman adopts a variation of a song's name written by Springsteen; she uses this as her screen name on his UNOFFICIAL site and achieves fame and fortun---er, recognition for her writing skills.

WOW! What a way to break into the literary business.

Post on a musician's UNOFFICAL website.

Are there agents on board looking to recruit?

BlueAngel
07-05-2007, 12:33 AM
Really?

Hypnosis cures intractable diseases, you say.

All you need is a St. Christopher medal.

"Just watch this shiny St. Christopher medal as it swings slowly back and forth to any Sinatra tune that comes into your head . . ."


Just watch . . .


Just watch . . .


You're getting sleepy . . .


Sleepy . . .

Interesting!

Are you a hypnotist?

Are you versed in mind control techniques?

BlueAngel
07-05-2007, 11:45 AM
While I was on Springsteen's Official site, the following song was posted.

At the time, I didn't know that it was a Ringo Starr song.

Don't know if he covered it, but the lyrics follow:

SEE THE PYRAMIDS ACROSS THE NILE,
SEE THE SUNRISE ON A TROPIC ISLE,
JUST REMEMBER, DARLING, ALL THE WHILE,
YOU BELONG TO ME.

SEE THE JUNGLE WHEN IT'S WET WITH RAIN,
SEE THE OCEAN FROM A SILVER PLANE,
JUST REMEMBER TILL YOU'RE HOME AGAIN,
YOU BELONG TO ME.

I'LL BE SO ALONE WITHOUT YOU,
DARLING, YOU'LL BE LONESOME TOO AND BLUE.

SEE THE MARKET PLACE IN OLD ALGIERS,
SEND ME PHOTOGRAPHS AND SOUVENIRS,
JUST REMEMBER TILL YOUR DREAM APPEARS,
YOU BELONG TO ME.

OH, I'LL BE SO ALONE WITHOUT YOU, ("oh, I will, honey")
DARLING, DARLING, YOU'LL BE LONESOME TOO,
AND YOU'RE GONNA BE BLUE.

SEE THE PYRAMIDS ACROSS THE NILE,
SEE THE SUNRISE ON A TROPIC ISLE,
JUST REMEMBER, DARLING, ALL THE WHILE,
YOU BELONG TO ME,
YOU BELONG TO ME.


(Just to little ol' me)

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Here we go with the "Dream" theme again. Until you're home you're gonna be lonesome and blue.

YOU BELONG TO ME!

BlueAngel
07-05-2007, 11:49 AM
I have no clue how anyone could think that the Police's song, "Every Breathe you Take," could possibly be misinterpreted.

THE LYRICS couldn't be anymore plain and clear and I have already interpreted them.

I have no clue how anyone could think the lyrics to "Dancing in the Dark," by Springsteen could be misinterpreted.

The lyrics couldn't be anymore plain and clear and I have already interpreted them.

I have no clue how anyone could think the lyrics to "Sandy," by Springsteen could be misinterpreted.

The lyrics couldn't be anymore plain and clear and I have already interpreted them.

As far as Born in the USA, I've already interpreted that song as well. Other than the line, "Born in the USA," it is not a patriotic song at all, but has been misinterpreted and used as such.

BlueAngel
07-05-2007, 11:53 AM
This song by Dylan was posted on Springsteen's official site after I returned from dinner at a local bar/restaurant with my husband where Bruce Springsteen pictures suddenly appeared on the walls and his music was played on the juke box during my presence. This became a common theme when we were there.

You know, when they follow your every move, they know the places you frequent.

What can I do for You
Bob Dylan

You have given everything to me.
What can I do for You?
You have given me eyes to see.
What can I do for You?

Pulled me out of bondage and You made me renewed inside,
Filled up a hunger that had always been denied,
Opened up a door no man can shut and You opened it up so wide
And You've chosen me to be among the few.
What can I do for You?

You have laid down Your life for me.
What can I do for You?
You have explained every mystery.
What can I do for You?

Soon as a man is born, you know the sparks begin to fly,
He gets wise in his own eyes and he's made to believe a lie.
Who would deliver him from the death he's bound to die?
Well, You've done it all and there's no more anyone can pretend to do.
What can I do for You?

You have given all there is to give.
What can I do for You?
You have given me life to live.
How can I live for You?

I know all about poison, I know all about fiery darts,
I don't care how rough the road is, show me where it starts,
Whatever pleases You, tell it to my heart.
Well, I don't deserve it but I sure did make it through.
What can I do for You?

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So, who is Dylan talking to?

BlueAngel
07-05-2007, 02:39 PM
Dylan says in the song, "What Can I do for you,"

You have laid down Your life for me.
What can I do for You?
You have explained every mystery.
What can I do for You?

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Did someone lay down their life for him?

Did someone explain every mystery?

EVERY MYSTERY!!

If so, perhaps Dylan can explain it to the rest of us.

Did someone open up a door for him that no man can ever close?

Who, who laid down their life for Dylan?

Just wondering.

I put my life on the line for my country and it certainly wasn't to protect any of the musicians who were involved in my abuse.

I opened doors for myself that they attempted to close on me.

I didn't open any doors for them in the past and have no intention of doing so in the future.

I CLOSED THEM tight and SEALED THEM SHUT FOREVER!

BlueAngel
07-05-2007, 02:42 PM
The spelling is a little off to the poster on the sideline.

Not exactly the correct spelling of my daughter's name.

BlueAngel
07-05-2007, 02:54 PM
We are the World
Michael Jackson

We are the world

There comes a time
When we heed a certain call
When the world must come together as one
There are people dying
And it's time to lend a hand to live
The greatest gift of all

We can't go on pretending day by day
That someone, somewhere will soon make a change
We're all a part of God's great big family
And the truth, you know,love is all we need

We are the world
We are the children
We are the ones who make a brighter day
So let’s start giving
There’s a choice we're making
We’re saving our own lifes
It’s true we’ll make a better day, just you and me

Send them your heart
So they'll know that someone cares
And their lifes will be stronger and free
As God has shown us by turning stones to bread
and so we all must lend a helping hand

We are the world
We are the children
We are the ones who make a brighter day
So let’s start giving
There’s a choice we're making
We’re saving our own lifes
It’s true we’ll make a better day, just you and me

When you're down and out, there seems no hope at all
But if you just believe there's no way we can fall
Well, well, well, well let us realize oh! that a change can only come
When we stand together as one

We are the world
We are the children
We are the ones who make a brighter day
So let’s start giving
There’s a choice we're making
We’re saving our own lifes
It’s true we’ll make a better day, just you and me

We are the world
We are the children
We are the ones who make a brighter day
So let’s start giving
There's a choice we're making
We're saving our own lifes
It’s true we’ll make a better day, just you and me


We are the world
(are the world)
We are the children
(are the children)
We are the ones who’ll make a brighter day so lets start giving
(so let's start giving)
There’s a choice we’re makin’
We’re savin’ our own lifes
It’s true we’ll make a brighter day, just you and me
ohh let me hear you!!!
Rep til fade

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So, I look at this song and begin to critique it.

He says:

We are the world
We are the children
We are the ones who make a brighter day
So let’s start giving
There’s a choice we're making
We’re saving our own lifes
It’s true we’ll make a better day, just you and me

I begin to wonder.

Jackson is saying the children are the world. They make a brighter day. Okay. I agree.

But, then, he digresses into "so let's start giving."

Who should start giving? Sounds like the children to me.

It flows like this:

We are the ones who make a brighter day
So let's start giving

If they need the help, how will they start giving?

Then he goes on to say:

There's a choice we're making
We're saving our own lives

Okay.

Who are the WE in the above verse and what choice are they making?

If he's referring to the children, what choice are they making?

If he's referring ot the children, how are they saving their own lives?

Another verse:

When you're down and out, there seems no hope at all
But if you just believe there's no way we can fall

So, the children are down and out and there seems no hope at all, but if they just believe there's no way WE can fall.

Who is the WE? Shouldn't it be YOU. Jackson wasn't starving at this time, was he?

So, just ask the children to believe and everything will be okay.

Believe in a song?

Love is all we need, he says.

That's it? Just love. Love will fill their starving bodies? Heal their diseases? Mend their suffering?

BlueAngel
07-05-2007, 03:12 PM
The theme of dreaming in Springsteen's songs are overwhelming.

Cover songs, lines, verses:

"Dream baby Dream"

"Book of Dreams"

"Meet me in a dream in this Hard Land"

"I want more than a dream to tell"

"I walk in dreams, talk in dreams"

"One night Billy awoke from a terrible dream"

"Is a dream a lie if it don't come true or is it something worse"

"I dreamed of you last night in a field of blood and stone"

"Keep the dream alive"

"Meet me in the Land of Hope and Dreams"

"just to end up caught in a dream where everything goes wrong"

"don't make us some little girl's dream, that can't ever come true......"

It goes on and on.

BlueAngel
07-05-2007, 03:39 PM
Continued:

"Blow away the dreams that tear you apart
Blow away the dreams that break your heart
Blow away the lies that leave you nothing but lost and brokenhearted"

"Sleeping beauty awakes from her dream"

Nebraska
Bruce Springsteen

I saw her standin' on her front lawn just twirlin' her baton
Me and her went for a ride sir and ten innocent people died

From the town of Lincoln Nebraska with a sawed off .410 on my lap
Through to the badlands of Wyoming I killed everything in my path

I can't say that I'm sorry for the things that we done
At least for a little while sir me and her we had us some fun

The jury brought in a guilty verdict and the judge he sentenced me to death
Midnight in a prison storeroom with leather straps across my chest

Sheriff when the man pulls that switch sir and snaps my poor neck back
You make sure my pretty baby is sittin' right there on my lap

They declared me unfit to live said into that great void my soul'd be hurled
They wanted to know why I did what I did

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What's this song about??????

Boy, I sure do remember how I practiced twirling my baton when I was a "little girl" on my front lawn.

Tossing it up in the air and trying to catch it.

He saw a girl on her front lawn twirling a baton. She got in his car and he killed everything in his path. Had a sawed off .410 on his lap.

Nice!!!

Is this one of those songs where in the end you have to look at it and not know where it came from?

One of those songs you write, as Springsteen says, that comes when you're unconscious.

BlueAngel
07-05-2007, 04:05 PM
Two Devils & Dust songs by Springsteen.

The first is on the Devils & Dust CD.

The second sounds like his writing from the early years.

I got my finger on the trigger
But I don't know who to trust
When I look into your eyes
There's just devils and dust
We're a long, long way from home, Bobbie
Home's a long, long way from us
I feel a dirty wind blowing
Devils and dust

I got God on my side
And I'm just trying to survive
What if what you do to survive
Kills the things you love
Fear's a powerful thing, baby
It can turn your heart black you can trust
It'll take your God filled soul
And fill it with devils and dust

Well I dreamed of you last night
In a field of blood and stone
The blood began to dry
The smell began to rise
Well I dreamed of you last night, Bobbie
In a field of mud and bone
Your blood began to dry
And the smell began to rise

We've got God on our side
We're just trying to survive
What if what you do to survive
Kills the things you love
Fear's a powerful thing, baby
It'll turn your heart black you can trust
It'll take your God filled soul
Fill it with devils and dust
It'll take your God filled soul
Fill it with devils and dust

[Harmonica solo]

Now every woman and every man
They wanna take a righteous stand
Find the love that God wills
And the faith that He commands
I've got my finger on the trigger
And tonight faith just ain't enough
When I look inside my heart
There's just devils and dust

Well I've got God on my side
And I'm just trying to survive
What if what you do to survive
Kills the things you love
Fear's a dangerous thing
It can turn your heart black you can trust
It'll take your God filled soul
Fill it with devils and dust
Yeah it'll take your God filled soul
Fill it with devils and dust

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This song is suppose to be about the Iraq war. I think it can be interpreted that way, if one states that this is the theme. But there is very little inference to the war.

Another one of those songs where he uses a name that can either be male or female.

By the way, just heard the song, "Frankie and Johnny" and began to wonder.

Very old song.

Frankie and Johnny were lovers. I assume this is a homosexual song. Can't think of a female name that Frankie would be derived from.

Back to Devils & Dust:

Particularly nice visual verse:

Well I dreamed of you last night
In a field of blood and stone
The blood began to dry
The smell began to rise
Well I dreamed of you last night, Bobbie
In a field of mud and bone
Your blood began to dry
And the smell began to rise

How 'bout this verse:

What if what you do to survive
Kills the things you love
Fear's a powerful thing, baby
It'll turn your heart black you can trust
It'll take your God filled soul
Fill it with devils and dust
It'll take your God filled soul
Fill it with devils and dust

What if what you do to survive kills the things you love, he says. So, he's doing something to survive but he's got to kill the things he loves!! So, he's at war with Bobbie, loves this male/female and has to kill him/her?

He goes on to say, "Fear's a powerful thing, baby." Who is he calling baby? Bobbie? Is he fighting in Iraq with a woman?

He then says, "It'll turn your heart black you can trust." Notice how the words, "you can trust" are tossed in at the end of the line and really have no place there.

Who is he telling to trust him? Bobbie? Trust him? Sounds like he doesn't trust himself. He's got his finger on the trigger, but he doesn't know who to trust!!!

Wouldn't be the first time he stated this in a song.

He says he and Bobbie are a long, long way from home. Is this the line that indicates they're in Iraq? Why not just say Iraq?

This song is completely contradictory, has double-bind meanings and sounds like a very conflicted person wrote it.

Inotherwords, it makes NO SENSE!


Devils & Dust
Bruce Springsteen

I parked my car on Parsons Lane
Walked a mile to my father's front gate
He sat on the porch out of the rain
It's always too early but never too late

Talked until the stars fell asleep
Little time when the years run fast
Lots of creases in my shirt to keep
Lots of streets full of devils and dust

Called it quits around mid mornin'
Went inside to get somethin' to eat
Pa's asleep on the porch and snorin'
Dreamin' about the sons he wanted to meet

Slump back in my chair and watch the cars roll by
Endless roads and neigbourhoods
Engines in need of oil and fixin'
Devils and dust under the hood

BlueAngel
07-05-2007, 05:45 PM
Lenore, the Cute Little Dead Girl
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Lenore: NoogiesLenore, "the Cute Little Dead Girl" is a fictional character created by Roman Dirge, inspired by the poem Lenore, by Edgar Allan Poe. Lenore has appeared in several comic books by Dirge, and was featured in her own series published by Slave Labor Graphics. She was also featured in a set of 26 short flash movies for Sony's ScreenBlast website.

Contents [hide]
1 Plot outline
2 Publications
2.1 Compilations
3 Animated films
4 Movie
5 Characters
5.1 Lenore
5.2 Ragamuffin
5.3 Mr. Gosh
5.4 Taxidermy
5.5 Pooty
5.6 Muffin Monster
5.7 Kitty
6 External links

Plot outline
The comic tells of the adventures of the title character, Lenore, and her variety of friends. The primary focus of the comic is dark humor, with many of the stories having amusing twist endings. Common themes are the reinvention of children's songs, games, and nursery rhymes to something more macabre, and subverting all sorts of pop culture icons and cultural figures in to topics of dark comedy. In one story, for instance, Lenore accidentally kills the Easter Bunny. While Lenore's actions often result in the death or injury to those around her, and in various forms of chaos, she is not a malicious character, and often thinks she is doing good. Lenore is not the sole focus of the comic, with many stories featuring one-time characters (One of these characters, Samurai Sloth, is set to star in his own series in 2006). Also featured are humorous, semi autobiographical accounts of events that happened to creator Roman Dirge, titled "Things Involving Me."

Publications
As of October 2005, 12 Lenore comic books were released. These have been collected into 3 separate compilations.

Up to issue #8 the series had little continuity or sense of time, however issues 9 through 12 had a continuing storyline. The comic is normally drawn in black and white, with some computer effects for shading. Issue #12 was in color and #13 is apparently going to be also.[1]

Lenore is also featured in issue #2 of Slave Labor's new comic book The Haunted Mansion, based on the popular Disneyland attraction.

Creator Roman Dirge is currently running Lenore comic strips on his LiveJournal community 'Lenore Comics'.

Compilations
These are compilations from the comic books. They are:

Lenore: Noogies (from #1 to #4) (1999)
Lenore: Wedgies (from #5 to #8) (2000)
Lenore: Cooties (from #9 to #12) (2006)
Roman Dirge's website Spookyland.com has announced that issue #13 is currently in progress [2].

Animated films
Created for Sony's website ScreenBlast, these are no longer available. Any website distributing these is doing so illegally.

The New Toy — Lenore "accidentally" kills some hamsters while looking for a squeeze toy.
Ragamuffin — Lenore resurrects Ragamuffin.
The Magician — Lenore murders a magician.
Bloaty The Frog — Lenore plays with a dead frog.
The Taxidermy — Lenore meets her neighbor, Taxidermy, who wants her to take care of his pet, Malakai.
The Return of Mr. Gosh — Lenore kills her admirer...again.
Magic Muffin — Lenore encounters a magical muffin elf.
A Walk In the City — Lenore butchers a stranger while walking about.
Lenore, Queen of the Fairy Gnomes — Lenore is found by gnomes who claim she is their long lost queen.
The Tea Party — Lenore has some friends over for a tea party.
Grave Error — Tummy-blows are issued.
The Thing What Came From the Poopy Chair — Lenore combats cleaner.
The Day Mr. Chippy Walked — Lenore helps half of a woodchuck.
Hairball — Lenore encounters a living hair clog in her drain.
Fugly Duckling — Lenore harasses the ugly duckling.
Kitty #46 & Kitty #53 — A sample of Lenore's dead cats.
Insurrection of the Insects — Told as in a story book, flies fight back against a spider.
The Dream Catcher (Part 1) — Lenore is haunted by a nightmare.
The Dream Catcher (Part 2) — Lenore meets "the tooth fairy".
Frito the Demon — Also told like a story book, Frito the demon escapes hell.
The Last Dance of the Ladybug — Yet another story, a ladybug has her revenge.
Little Bunny Foo Foo — Lenore kills small animals and a fairy, a take at the popular rhyme.
L'il Ballerina — Lenore dances ballet... at a funeral.
Death Bed — Lenore encounters the pets whom she killed.
Lenore's Last (Part 1) — Lenore visits the doctor.
Lenore's Last (Part 2) — Lenore dies...again.

Movie

There were plans for the making of a Lenore feature film by Sony Family Entertainment. [3] A script was written but it was not approved by Dirge. The contract has expired and there are no movie or TV series currently in development.

Characters

Lenore

Lenore is a 10 year-old undead girl, who lives in a mansion with her friend Ragamuffin. She died from pneumonia the first time, and was embalmed and buried and came back for some reason. The series does not precisely explain the reasons for her first return. In the 8th issue, Ragamuffin points out to Lenore that she looks sick. He tries to convince her to go to the doctor, and she eventually acquiesces. The doctor x-rays her and discovers that she not only has no heartbeat, she also has a rat living in her ribcage. She then dies and goes to Hell, only to return because "Hell was itchy and smelt like Fritos." She was then dug up by Ragamuffin in issue 9. She loves animals but always tends to hurt or kill them. Lenore has a way of scaring people and things without having to try, but she has many creepy friends.

Ragamuffin

Ragamuffin can at first sight look like a ragdoll with worms for hair and filled with polyester, but he has a very interesting story and personality. Ragamuffin was a vampire who fed upon the flesh of the living. One night he attacked a young woman and ate her. Unfortunately, she was a powerful witch's sister. The witch cursed him and transformed him to a doll. The curse could only be broken by a drop of blood. But as the blood Lenore gave him was mixed with embalming fluid, he resurrected, but would never cease to be a doll (although he was briefly transformed back into his body at the end of issue #11, but returned to his rag doll form in the last frame of issue #12). He lives with Lenore in her old mansion and has the doubtful pleasure of being a patient attendant on her many adventures.

Ragamuffin is a little unsure of some of Lenore's crazier ideas, and is oddly enough the occasional voice of reason in the comic. Still, as shown in the later comics, Ragamuffin is very loyal to Lenore, often joining her plans in the computer animated cartoons.

From left to right: Taxidermy, Muffin Monster, Ragamuffin, and Mr. Gosh, waiting for Lenore to rise from the dead.

Mr. Gosh

Mr. Gosh is a human-size sock puppet man with buttons as eyes, and is madly and obsessively in love with Lenore. Even being killed several times by Lenore, he keeps returning from the grave — often saying that he forgives her for killing him, as he supposed she always does it by "accident". Including other times, Mr. Gosh has been killed by Lenore during the "Lawnmower Incident", in which she ran him over repeatedly with a lawnmower, after he proposed to her. He is also unpopular among some of Lenore's friends, especially Ragamuffin, who threatened to feed Mr. Gosh his own bowels if he bothered Lenore again in issue 12. The threat was carried out in the next panel. Some of his other injuries include: being poisoned, being set on fire, bashed with a shovel, stabbed in the head 6 times, and having his head explode, and yet he still loves Lenore with all his heart. That is, if sock puppets have hearts. Lenore actually falls for him briefly when his hood is removed by Pooty. When Lenore realizes who he is, well, more than his heart is broken. Beneath his hood his head is rotten and causes all who look upon it to vomit, except Lenore. This could be his 'true form' or it could be due to the 'lawnmower incident'.

Taxidermy

Taxidermy is a man with the head of an embalmed (taxidermied; thereof his name) deer that is often at Lenore's. He claims that his strange appearance is a 'medical condition'. His very first appearance in the comics had him looking like a tall, emaciated deer with a stitched-up head wearing a suit, and he even had hooves for hands. He later (and currently) takes on the appearance of a human with deer skin stitched around his head, antlers sticking out on top, and a non-moving, pincer-like thing where his mouth would be. And human hands, of course. This design was also adopted for the flash cartoon version of Taxidermy's first appearance in the comics. He has a little pet named Malachi, confirmed to be a taxidermy form by Roman Dirge on the SpookyLand forums. Taxidermy also leads a horde of taxidermied animals. The horde appears occasionally to assist Lenore and her friends against their enemies.

Pooty

Pooty Applewater made his first appearance in issue #9 as a bounty hunter sent to bring Lenore back to the underworld. Lenore convinced him to let her stay and he became one of her friends, playing a part in the battles that followed. He is small, has a small, odd bucket-like head and carries a trident.

Muffin Monster

The Muffin Monster made his first appearance in issue #5 at Lenore's tea-party. Not much is known about him except that he likes muffins which seem to give him gas. He could possibly play a larger role in future issues.

Kitty

Lenore often carries a dead kitty with her. The kittens weren't dead when she got them, but she accidentally kills every kitty she takes care of. She is even confronted by the spirit of "kitty # 12" about her cruel behavior towards animals but she never seems to notice her actions cause death.

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There were plans to make a "Lenore" feature film by Sony but Dirge did not approve the script.

So, if this film were made, would it be a children's movie?

WOW!!

I would think anyone who uses Lenore as their signature line must find this character charming.
Speaks volumes!

BlueAngel
07-05-2007, 06:31 PM
What about this verse from Devils & Dust:

Now every woman and every man
They wanna take a righteous stand
Find the love that God wills
And the faith that He commands
I've got my finger on the trigger
And tonight faith just ain't enough
When I look inside my heart
There's just devils and dust

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What does the following verse have to do with a war? Further, it is completely out of line with whatever the theme is in this song, but then again, I guess that would be in line with the theme.

"Now every woman and every man, They wanna take a righteous stand, Find the love that God wills, And the faith that He commands"

He goes on to say that he's got his finger on the trigger and tonight faith just ain't enough. When I look inside my heart, there's just devils and dust.

So, what does this verse mean?

Faith ain't enough to stop him from killing himself or Bobbie, who? The enemy? Which is what our soldiers are trained to do in combat.

Like I said, a picture of a "lost soul, tormented soul, conflicted soul," perhaps.

Devils & Dust about the Iraq war?

NAH. Not in my opinion.

If you're a singer/songwriter/muscian and your lyrics are written in the style such as Springsteen; (i.e., cryptic -- carrying messages) there is much room for him or anyone within the business to suggest the theme of a song.

I would say this.

If you're such a political figurehead in this country, why so cryptic? How come the word Iraq was never used?

How come this song seemed to be about YOUR experience and not from the perspective of a soldier/family?

I would think the answer to this would be because it isn't a song about the war.

I'll tell you what.

I'm going to write a song about the Iraq war. It won't be cryptic; I won't be in an altered state; and it won't be about me and some person named Bobbie.

It will be about our corrupt government and the unjust war.

PERIOD!

BlueAngel
07-05-2007, 06:52 PM
The Government Lied
BlueAngel

The war goes on
and our soldiers die
they come home wounded
and our hearts cry

the government lied
sent our military overseas
oil, power, corruption and greed
these are the seeds
the seeds that they breed

a young mother sleeps with her children at night
she knows that her husband's fighting for his life
he's in harms way behind enemy lines
she wonders and weeps
is he fighting for peace
she wonders and weeps
is he fighting for peace

the government lied
sent our military overseas
oil, power, corruption and greed
theses are the seeds
the seeds that they breed

her children are young
they don't know what it means
their father is gone
and so now it seems
their mother is raising them
all by herself
they don't understand
where Daddy has gone
they lay down at night
and mommy sings them a song

should she sing the patriotic ones
afterall, he, too, was a son
should she sing the patriotic songs
or does she believe the government did us wrong

should she tell her children at night
you're father, the soldier, fought hard to stay alive
to come home to us
but he didn't succeed
cause the government the government
these are the seeds that they breed

should she tell them he fought to protect our lives
or will this be another lie
or should she tell them
that in vain he died
because you see, our government lied

the government lied
sent our military overseas
oil, power, corruption and greed
these are the seeds
the seeds that they breed

BlueAngel
07-05-2007, 08:07 PM
Is it the hypocrisy or the hypocrisy!?!

Abusive, sadistic, foul-mouthed mind controllers/handlers voicing their opinions regarding what a woman should do in order to escape an abusive relationship.

Discussing what it is like for women when they leave their abuser and have to live in fear that he will stalk them, harm them and even perhaps kill them.

It is to watch psychotic/delusional behavior in action. These people are what they are discussing, but do not see themselves in this way.

Neither does the abusive spouse. It is, in most cases, the woman's fault.

She made him do it.

It is a part of their personality.

If he hit you once, he'll hit you again.

I remember those words.

Better get away from him now before you wind up married to him; dependent on him.

Because, you see, I would never have a life/career of my own. He would control it and me.

I would be his pet/puppet.

Sounds like the present day situation that she is in.

This brings up the pictures.

If he cheated on you once, he'll cheat on you again.

If he has sex with one "little girl," the chances are he has sex with other "little girls," and boys.

It is the "sexual deviant behavior" that is commonplace within the "satanic cult."

This, of course, not with respect to my husand of 25 years.

I was never shown any pictures of my husband with another woman. He is faithful.

My husband is not abusive verbally, physically, emotionally or mentally.

My huband does not control me or my life.

This was disinformation/suggestions in their attempt to make me leave him.

BlueAngel
07-05-2007, 09:00 PM
The most foul-mouthed poster (well, second, now that a ghost from the past has returned) claims to work for the military as a consultant!!!

WHAT????

He never served, nonetheless if he knows of a poster who supports the war and/or troops and doesn't serve, the tongue begins to fly.

If you support the war, he personally holds you responsible for the deaths of our servicemen/women.

I don't think he understands that Congress approved the war and not the public.

Has also claims to work for NASA or has in the past!!!

Claims to have lunched with Pentagon higher-ups!!!

He is a consultant to the Pentagon regarding the war, but has never served and does not hold a military position.

This requires a WTF???

Doesn't hold a government position other than, perhaps, a mind controller/handler because, afterall, they are his people on the board as one poster put it.

He must be one of their own. Seems they all come from the same mold.

Writes lyrics, as well.

Apparently, there are alot of posters who believe, such as Springsteen that they hold a political position in the United States. Have power to some degree. In their own little delusional world, I would suggest.

A myriad of dysfunctional posters. Some roadies, perhaps, musicians, wannabes of one sort or another and those who just plain missed their calling in life; angry about it and feel powerful when posting on Springsteen's unofficial site for some reason as if their political opinions in any way, shape or form set policies and changes the current direction of our country and the world.

Now, why on earth would the poster Blue52, also known as *** be posting on the board under a different username and not tell his buddies?

I think Paddy was a boxer at one time in his life. This is the poster who claims to be a consultant to the military about the Iraq war.

There was a boxer in my past; however, the disinformation is that he taught me how to fight back verbally against the cult.

This boxer showed me all his moves; uppercut, jabs, etc. and I have memories of having to fight with my sister, perhaps other girls.

I don't think we physically hurt one another, but we may have. I may have had a broken collar bone.

Maybe this was some sort of sexual arousal for the perverts. Don't know.

I also have memories of it being said, "get in the ring."

When you hear the bell, put up your fists and start fighting. Don't fight like girls. Strangleholds, chokeholds. Tripping up legs. Pinning the opponent. Then, quite possibly, a make-up period between the females.

Kiss and make-up.

GROSS!

I don't think we actually used fists. Not sure.

My father was never a boxer and this was the disinformation.

As I said, my father was used to replace the memories of some individuals involved in my abuse.

BlueAngel
07-05-2007, 09:42 PM
I don't know if Springsteen has a song(s) with the line(s):

"I live in dreams, I walk in dreams, I talk in dreams"

"Keep the dream alive"

He may have spoken these words to me because I remember a portion of my reply.

I don't want to live in a dream world. I don't want to walk around in a dream world. I don't want to write lyrics from a dream state of mind. I want to dream when I go to sleep. That's the only time I want to dream.

I want to be connected to reality.

I don't consider it to be "dreaming" when one wants to reach a goal. I consider it a goal to work towards. Not a dream.

I don't dream about things materializing in my life. I set goals and work to achieve them.

I also remember him saying to "keep the dream alive" of us being together.

I didn't want to dream for the rest of my life about being together with him some day because I didn't want to be with him.

But, he wanted me to keep the dream alive that one day it would happen.

Inotherwords, stay alone; don't ever get married; this is what I was told and wait for him forever in a dream world because one day we would be together.

I knew it would never happen, but he wanted to convince me of his innocence and that one day the truth would come out.

I should wait for him and he'd wait for me. Kind of like a line in his song, "If I should fall behind." Or, one step up, two steps back.

Fall behind, wait. Fall behind, wait.

He wouldn't get married if I didn't. But, I knew this was just a ploy to keep me from having a meaningful relationship; perhaps marrying. Becomming close to someone; trusting someone; and this, the end-result; memories and my past emerging because I am loved for who I am and not what they tried to make of me.

Did I want to spend the rest of my life waiting for something that would never happen, believing his lies; believing his innocence would one day be proven?

The answer was NO and you're a LIAR!

I never wanted to be with YOU, is what I told him. I did what I had to do to get away from you and you think I want to spend/waste the rest of my life believing you were innocent and that one day the truth would come out and we'd be together.

As I said, I don't follow dreams. I follow my instincts and my heart.

Who in their right mind would abuse a person emotionally, mentally, psychologically and then when asked in the absence of this poster in a thread, how she might be doing, Vast posts a picture of someone in a strait-jacket.

Speaks volumes as to their sadistic nature. Their lack of compassion, empathy. Their operation in hopes of destroying my life and mind.

BlueAngel
07-05-2007, 10:22 PM
Celine Dion has a song with the line:

"And it's all coming back to me now"

Anyway, the conversation continues:

I said, you expect me to wait around for you for the rest of my life. Not the rest of your life, he said. Until the time is right. Until the time is right for what? To go public. When will that be? I don't know, he said.

I said, that's ridiculous. I'm suppose to just hang around waiting for you to prove your innocence one day. Just stuck in limbo.

One day you're just going to telephone me and we'll be together because the truth is going to be made public, but you have no idea how long this will be.

I'm suppose to put my life on hold. Never be with another man. Never get married.

Wait for you.

If you were innocent, we wouldn't have to wait, but we both know that you're not.

You think all of my memories have been erased, but they haven't. You just want me to be alone for the rest of my life so I don't get close to someone and tell them about you.

I wouldn't do that anyway. I have other instructions from people I trust and you're not one of them.

What you speak is ridiculous.

If you're innocent, prove it now. Why wait? If you have the evidence to prove it wasn't you, then produce it.

If you have the evidence to prove someone else was responsible for my abuse, then produce it. What's the secret?

I remember you and I remember everything you did to me.

You can't produce it because you're not innocent. I know you're not and you keep playing the innocent bystander role as if you were forced to do what you did to me.

No one put a gun to your head. You did it of your own free will because that's the kind of man you are. That's the environment you were raised in. You could have chucked it all away. You could have saved yourself from their grasp. I gave you that opportunity, but instead you decided to trick me to protect yourself from the incriminating evidence against you.

You prefer fortune and fame, a devious life-style to honesty and integrity.

Well, I don't. I was forced, just like you were to a certain degree. Only I found a way out. I offered and you rejected.

What kind of a man are you? You're not a man, you're a coward.

You care about yourself. That's the only person you care about. You're in love with yourself. You need help. That's all I can tell you. You need serious help. I can't help you and I'm not waiting for you. I don't love you now and I never loved you.

I only loved you in an altered, child-like state. The way you like me. Like a little girl. Your little girl. You like little girls and that's just sick.

Why should I trust you? I trusted you and you tricked me into going to some safe-house that wasn't a safe-house at all. You left me there and I was tortured, abused, left for brain dead and you think I trust anything you say.

I never trusted you. I trusted you once because you said you would be a witness against THEM, turn state's evidence and you, instead, had me tortured. I should have known better. I should have trusted my protectors. But, you used your usual tactics.

You're nuts! You're just like the rest of them. NUTS!!

You go about your life and I'm going about my life and one day the truth about you will come out and it won't be the truth you want me to believe because irregardless of what they did to my brain; scrambled it; I have alread provided evidence to my protectors.

So, stay the eff out of my life!!

BlueAngel
07-05-2007, 10:59 PM
I think a nerve has been struck.

BlueAngel
07-05-2007, 11:10 PM
I wasn't going to recant or lie to my protectors. I wasn't going to say that I made it all up. That I confused him with someone else.

I most probably feel for his trickery to go to the safe-house because he said when I returned he would be a witness with me against the government.

But, because my brain had been scrambled, this was the reason he said we had to wait.

However, as I've stated, the evidence; the tapes; the pictures; my written words are with my protectors.

He could turn against them and receive immunity, but could he ever have a career in the music industry.

Most probably not depending upon the magnitude of what would be exposed as to his involvement with me and what else might be produced by the "cult" in order to tarnish him for speaking out against them.

Besides the fact he was an adult and whatever pictures the cult has, I'm sure are of him in compromising situations with minors.

So, you see, this is the cross he has to bare.

BlueAngel
07-05-2007, 11:30 PM
The boxer. Michael Milan(e). Does that ring a bell?

He was called Mickey. That's how I knew him.

I think this is his pen name.

BlueAngel
07-05-2007, 11:55 PM
This is frightening!

From the Bon Jovi FAN website:


Oath of Jon Love

I, XXXXX (name intentionally deleted), am now and always will be a Jon Maniac.

I hereby pledge my love to Jon Bon Jovi and vow to always respect, honor, and care about him for ever and ever.

I vow to love Jon no matter if his hair is long, short, or even shaved. It may be his physical appearance that first attracted us to him, but it’s his inner beauty, his music, his winning humor, his kindness toward his fans, and his caring about others that keeps us loyal.

I vow to faithfully listen to Jon’s solo music every day, to fully enjoy its beauty, and to always get lost in the music, allowing the songs to take me on a journey to another world where nothing exists but happiness, beauty, and love. I also vow to share this experience by trying to turn others onto Jon’s music.

I vow to fully support Jon in all his future career choices, both solo and with Bon Jovi, even if it means that he may someday (God forbid!) decide to leave the band to focus more on his solo music or movies.

I vow that if I should someday meet Jon, I will attempt to thank him for all the sunshine and happiness he, his music and his movies have brought into my life. Or if I have met him and was so much in awe that I failed to say "thank you", I vow to attempt to do so should his and my paths ever again cross.

In addition, I vow to always be faithful to my fellow Jon Maniac friends and to form a bond with them, maintained by our mutual love for
Jon, his music and his movies, that will cross the language gap, shorten the distance barrier, minimize the cultural, religious, age, and gender differences, and withstand anything (or anyone) that might try to break it.

Lastly, but certainly not least, I vow to be the best Jon fan there is.

Now, place your right hand over your heart and repeat these words:

"Jon, you will always hold the keys to my heart. Thanks to you, your incredible music and your amazing movies, we, your always loyal fans, feel we have truly been laid down in a Bed of Roses."

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Look at this:

I vow to faithfully listen to Jon's solo music every day, to fully enjoy its beauty, and to always get lost in the music, allowing the songs to take me on a journey to another world where nothing exists but happiness, beauty, and love. I also vow to share this experience by trying to turn others onto Jon's music.

BlueAngel
07-06-2007, 12:00 AM
Yes, the pictures of Springsteen might be along the lines of those you posted.

BlueAngel
07-06-2007, 06:02 PM
A verse from one of Springsteen's songs. I think it's a song from Tunnel of Love. If it is from Tunnel of Love, was it written when he was cheating on his first wife, Julianne, with Patti?

"Sometimes mister I feel sunny and wild
Lord I love to see my baby smile"

"But there’s things that’ll knock you down you don’t even see coming
And send you crawling like a baby back home"

"They say he travels fastest who travels alone"

"I got a house full of Rembrandt and priceless art
And all the little girls they wanna tear me apart"

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What???

I got a house full of Rembrandt and priceless art
And all the little girls they wanna tear me apart

All the LITTLE GIRLS want to tear him apart.

What???

Little girls who are sex slaves???

BlueAngel
07-06-2007, 06:06 PM
More DREAMIN' lines:

"Last night I dreamed I held you in my arms"

"It wasn't the bitterness of a dream that didn't come true"

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This man's going to have a rude awakening one day!

BlueAngel
07-06-2007, 06:21 PM
You're kidding, right?

Springsteen's song, RENO, is all about imagery. This is the word THEY use when his songs are nasty or don't make sense which is quite often.

How 'bout that imagery of $250.00 up the a**?

Is that what you mean?

I definitely agree that the song is about worthlessness. This theme is rampant within his lyrics. A reflection, no doubt, about how he feels about himself.

I would too, if I were him.

He's in the room with two women. So, he's definitely having a threesome.

Keep in mind, this song was released, as well as many of his other nasty songs, while married with children.

To say that RENO is about a guy from Born to Run thirty years later after he grew up, settled into a relationship, it failed and he cannot replace her, and falls into the abyss is quite a stretch.

Who told you that?

Obviously, you desperately want to give credibility to Springsteen's horrible song, RENO and/or otherwise, so you use your imagination to conjure up an explanation that is completely opposite of what the lyrics say.

You much prefer to believe that Springsteen's songs are about other people and not a reflection of the man himself, so as not to shatter the hero role that has been planted into your subconsicous.

Remember, mind control victims have alter personalities.

roscoe
07-06-2007, 06:24 PM
Who is allowing the disgusting pornography to be published in this Forum?

BlueAngel
07-06-2007, 06:56 PM
Hopefully, the pictures will be removed soon.

BlueAngel
07-06-2007, 08:18 PM
The pictures are not only of "little girls," but men, as well.

I remember the disgust; although I'm certain I was in the presence of homosexual acts between him and another male musician.

I have recalled these memories.

This, the reason the suggestion was planted that my husband was homosexual.

It could have been planted while I was married; it could have been planted at the so-called safe-house in order to cover-up the truth about Springsteen.

Could have been it was said that if I ever get married, the thought will always be in the back of my head that my husband is homosexual.

Because, in the back of my head is where it has always been knowing full well that it is not my husband who is homosexual; likes little girls; a pedophile and partakes in other sexually deviant behavior.

BlueAngel
07-06-2007, 09:55 PM
Could I have taken the pictures?

This is what I'm remembering at present.

Somehow, I had to convince them to allow me to take pictures.

Just wanted to keep them, look at them. Put them under my pillow at night when I was lonely.

Did they ask about the pictures?

Where are they?

Do you have them?

No. I threw them out.

WHY?

I got tired of them. I need new ones. They were boring me.

I want to see you do this. I want to see you do that with HIM.

Maybe I want to be a photographer someday. Maybe I want to produce pornographic films.

I could be convincing, you know.

Sly as a fox.

BlueAngel
07-06-2007, 11:31 PM
The screen memory that I had a baby with Springsteen, was programmed to cut it up so that I could be sent away; institutionalized in order to keep us apart so that we could not be witnesses against the government is, as I've stated, disinformation.

Yeah, right! I had a baby. What happened to it?

Is Springsteen raising it? Don't think so. Seems he has three children with his wife.

Anyway, the disinformation is to cover-up the fact that his sister, Pamela, is the mother of his child.

Hence, the song, "The River."

BlueAngel
07-06-2007, 11:34 PM
I didn't call her Pam or Pamela. I called her Pammy.

BlueAngel
07-06-2007, 11:59 PM
Sorry to disappoint you, but Springsteen doesn't write complicated and interesting compositions.

Most of his songs don't make any sense. You prefer to call them complicated and interesting in order to make him appear to be something he is not.

There is; however, one thing of which we can be sure. He likes "little girls."

Frightening. He has a daughter.

Songs that do make sense are shallow, but they are few and far between.

You're living in the dream world he created for you. Worshipping him just like you would worship the leader of a cult.

You know not of what you do. You've been hypnotized and brainwashed.

That is just plain scary. How old are you? Aren't you married? What are you doing posting on a Springsteen board 24/7?

Furthermore, he writes most of his songs from an altered state of consciousness. He has admitted this. Maybe he's Terry, maybe he's Sonny, maybe he's Frankie. Maybe these are alter personalities.

I'm sure he has "ghost writers" as well. HE DOESN"T WRITE ALL OF HIS OWN SONGS.

He sings what they give him because he sold his soul to the DEVIL and is furthering their agenda. Infecting the minds of his fans beginning 30 plus years ago.

I am almost certain that Landau is his controller/handler. Wouldn't be the first time a manager had this role.

BlueAngel
07-07-2007, 12:21 AM
If you're a regular poster at BTX (unofficial site; but migrated there from offical site) and are interested in a person who doesn't listen to Springsteen, you must try to convert them.

When this fails, since you are a "cult" member of the group and can't use your own brain, you start a thread about how you met a girl, but she doesn't like Springsteen's music. What should I do?

Because, you see, Springsteen is a part of your life. He is more important to you than you are to yourself.

You ask for advice and you shall receive replies, such as:

If you sent her BTR and she doesn't like it, there's no hope.

Get rid of her.

No use in trying to date someone outside of BTX.

She's a whore.

The list goes on and on.

Braindead. Can't think for themselves. All the signs of a cult. Must solicit advice from the elders of the group.

BlueAngel
07-07-2007, 07:05 PM
To summarize the personality of a psychopath is to state that one never knows what might TICK them off; what might make them turn their back on you; what might make them one minute seem like a caring individual and the next like a vicious animal spewing filth from their mouths as if possessed by Satan.

It is frightening to say the least.

There is no rhyme or reason to their behavior.

If you were a victim, such as myself, being controlled by the likes of these pigs, their erratic behavior can wreck havoc on your psychological state of mind.

One minute you might trust; feel safe; feel loved and then the next minute abuse might occur because you didn't act according to their demands.

It is to play on one's psychological well-being. In essence, to play on their emotions and, in the long run, attempt to cause the same psychosis that they suffer from.

It is to be toyed with; jerked around like a puppet on a string; a marionette when placed in an altered state of consciousness and void of your own "free will."

They can, at times, appear to be caring beings, but when incarcerated amongst them, as I was when I was young and recently when I spent time on Springsteen's official website, is to know that beneath the surface of their shallow souls, lies a very unpredictable and vicious species.

BlueAngel
07-07-2007, 10:30 PM
A natural born lyricist doesn't need a rhyming book or thesaurus to write songs.

He needed this to rhyme drummers and bummers?

Yeah, real difficult one there!

No wonder the song doesn't make any sense. If you're just paging through a book looking to rhyme one word with another, there most probably won't be a theme.

Which is quite evident in most of his songs except for the focus on "little girls."

As far a drug use, I find it hard to believe, being a victim himself, that he wasn't subjected to it either of his own free will or by suggestion/force.

As far as drinking, I've heard it was a problem and it certainly was in the past.

BlueAngel
07-07-2007, 10:42 PM
Although I found the film, "Something about Mary," cute is was also distasteful. Don't think I need to describe the scenes to make my point.

I just watched, "A Night at the Museum," with Ben Stiller and Robin Williams.

It warmed my heart. It was a wonderful children's movie that incorporated history as well and did not include one sexual innuendo.

To the producer!

Cheers!!

This is what our children should view and not soft-porn.

Pornography corrupts the mind. They know this and target the most innocent of all. Our children.

BlueAngel
07-07-2007, 11:32 PM
The make-believe threads.

How bizarre!

The graphics to depict the scenes!!

They appear to be loners with no life outside of the forum/cult. Dedication to Springsteen above all else.

The pleasantries exchanged amongst each other in one particular thread are so over the top they are transparently fake.

Once a person displays psychotic rants, violent tendencies, schizophrenia, sociopathic behavior, the cordial/casual conversation with caring tone doesn't erase the true character of the personality that has already raised its' ugly head.

Just not befitting. It won't last long. I'm sure they're struggling to keep it up.

They'd much prefer arguing and spewing violent speak at those who don't agree with them.

Narcism:

One poster believes that some of the members on the forum knew well ahead of time that the people in the White House would bring a whole new meaning to the word "disaster" for our country.

And, ever since then, it seems they've been trying with all their might to prove us absolutely correct.

Imagine that!

They knew what the Bush Administration was going to do before they did it. Before he was elected. Gee! Wish they would have warned us.

NARCISM at its' height:

EVER SINCE THEN, this poster believes that the administration has been trying with all their might to prove them absolutely CORRECT!!

Yes, the administration is carrying on the atrocities that they have committed just to prove you absolutely correct!

IT'S ALL ABOUT ME!!!!!

BlueAngel
07-08-2007, 10:30 AM
When I first began to awake about five years ago. Well, actually that was the beginning of a rude awakening. My awakening, recalling of memories, stuck in my head was a slow process leading up to the arrest.

During the time of my "rude awakening," I was writing and attempting to elimate all the garbage from my brain that was installed to get to the truth.

I felt as though I needed a "bullhorn." I wanted to go out into the streets with a bullhorn.

I remember asking, when I was young, what is a bullhorn?

It's a microphone, shaped like a horn, that you hold to your lips. It's used to attract attention, to be heard when someone doesn't want you to speak; used in large crowds.

Always remember THE MAN WITH THE BULLHORN!!

BlueAngel
07-08-2007, 10:35 AM
Live Earth, so they say, is produced to raise awareness to combat our climate crisis.

Okay!

Great! We are all aware, are we not?

Now what?

If you went to Live Earth, did you donate?

Did it cost you to attend?

Did you buy t-shirts, concessions?

My questions would be the following:

Of all the wealthy musicians who performed, the wealthy actresses/actors who attended or played a role, how much did they donate?

The music moguls who produced this event, how much did they donate?

Where does this money go?

How does it combat our climate crisis?

Have you been suckered again?

Bringing musicians together to stage shows, attract a hugh audience, placing a slogan on the cause, making mass amounts of money ain't somethin' knew.

So, again, how much did Madonna donate?

How much did Springsteen donate?

BlueAngel
07-08-2007, 10:37 AM
Information about MKULTRA is important in whatever context it is presented.

However, WE know that public knowledge as to their experimentation with LSD and other drugs at brothel houses and on their own agents is only the tip of the iceberg.

We know that cases were settled in Canada and gag orders placed on the victims.

We know CLINTON acknowledged experimenting on unwitting victims.

WE know Colby was most probably killed and he acknowledged Project Monarch.

Again, this is only the tip of the iceberg.

We know there are mind control victims/survivors who have written books.

WE know about John DeCamp's investigation into The Franklin Cover-up.

We know there was an article about prostitutes in the White House during Bush, Sr.'s presidency.

We know much more.

WE know about the "satanic cult" that rules the world.

We know about my incarceration as a "sex slave" in the music industry and used for countless other black ops; pornography, etc., etc.

We know there are untold numbers of mind control victims/survivors who may not yet even know about their past abuse.

We know how deep the rabbit hole goes.

We know I went down it not once, but twice and I will never return to that abyss.

We know there are many forums on the internet that expose this unjustice.

We know there is much information on the internet regarding mind control programs.

However, it is TIME that my incarceration/this atrocity upon all of society become public knowledge via mainstream media.

To this end, I have dedicated my life.

In Peace,
BlueAngel

BlueAngel
07-08-2007, 10:50 AM
So, how can humans change the weather/climate?

WE KNOW THEY'VE BEEN TINKERING WITH THE WEATHER, CAUSEING CHANGES IN THE EARTH'S ATMOSPHERE FOR DECADES.

So, if humans could change the weather for the better, it would be for naught since the controls rest in the "evil doers" hands.

Fighting an uphill battle, I would say.

But yet, they produce Live Earth to raise awareness as to their destruction of Planet Earth's atmosphere.

On another note, something of greater importance would be the asteroid they say is going to strike earth in 2012.

Are they yet again preparing us for something which they will have caused?

FIVE YEARS FROM NOW.

I guess we might as well enjoy what little time we have left here.

They just cannot stand the EARTH! Their only interest are her natural resources.

Killing is their business.

Destruction their motto!

roscoe
07-08-2007, 12:43 PM
No identification of a dead William Colby body was ever made; the case remains a mystery. Springmeier has stated that Colby's son Carl was the next door neighbor to Nicole Brown Simpson on Bundy Dr.

BlueAngel
07-08-2007, 01:06 PM
Colby's body was eventually found, underwater, on May 6, 1996. The life jacket his friends said he usually wore was missing. The body was found approximately 20 yards from the canoe, after the area had been thoroughly searched multiple times. The subsequent inquest found that he died from drowning and hypothermia after collapsing from a heart attack or stroke and falling out of his canoe. The investigation was closed.

BlueAngel
07-08-2007, 01:47 PM
The Family Jewels:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_family_jewels

BlueAngel
07-08-2007, 01:47 PM
So, there you have it!

Investigations into mind control; the tip of the iceberg touched upon and then dropped in the mid 70's.

Pike, Church, Rockefeller and then Kennedy's investigation.

Seems around the time I may have been whisked away to or just returned from a so-called safe-house/witness protection program.

roscoe
07-08-2007, 01:55 PM
Wikipedia is notoriously innaccurate and not to be trusted. My info is that there was never any positive ID of Colby's body. Sorry if I can't remember a source at this moment.

BlueAngel
07-08-2007, 02:02 PM
Since I have named a source and you have not, I think we'll have to go with mine at the present.

Wikipedia may be inaccurate, but to say they are NOT TO BE TRUSTED is a stretch.

For instance, if I plug in "Bruce Springsteen," they're pretty accurate in describing where he was born, how many siblings he has, his releases, etc.

roscoe
07-08-2007, 02:49 PM
It is my impression that his body was never found; I would not trust Wikpedia on this one.

Wikpedia is a left wing Prevailing Winds type operation that can be depended upon to put out info sympathetic to La Rouche/Counterpunch/RumorMill/CAIB minds like Blue Angel. Anything that re-enforces the idea that the CIA/NAZIS/PAPERCLIP is responsible for eveything.

Blue Angel: have you ever read the Constitution of the Catholic Church?

BlueAngel
07-08-2007, 03:19 PM
roscoe wrote:
It is my impression that his body was never found; I would not trust Wikpedia on this one.

Wikpedia is a left wing Prevailing Winds type operation that can be depended upon to put out info sympathetic to La Rouche/Counterpunch/RumorMill/CAIB minds like Blue Angel.

Blue Angel: have you ever read the Constitution of the Catholic Church?

Quite frankly, Roscoe, it doesn't really matter whether his body was found or not.

For all intents and purposes, he has been declared DEAD!

It's not so critical that I need to trust or distrust Wikipedia on this ONE!

However, until his wife states that his body was not buried and/or not found, I'll trust Wikipedia.

For you to say that Wikipedia can be depended upon to put out information sympathetic to (insert blah, blah, blah, here) is again, another stretch.

Oh, yes. They know of me and have decided to make their site sympathetic to BlueAngel by posting disinformation about Colby's body being found. As if this is such a critical piece of information that I need. I would assume you are suggesting the same when it provides information about MKULTRA/Project Monarch.

Ridiculous!

I've never read the constitution of the Catholic Church and have no intention of ever doing so.

roscoe
07-08-2007, 03:28 PM
It should also be remenbered that Colby was a Clintonista; I believe his death was staged for some reason or another.

BlueAngel
07-08-2007, 03:53 PM
It's your belief his death was staged, but for some other reason.

What other reason?

What reason do you think has been set forth?

Does it really matter?

It could have been for a myriad of reasons and not just one.

He was CIA. He was DCI. He was an agent for most of his life serving in some capacity whether overseas or as director of Central Intelligence Agency in the States.

If you have read "The Franklin Cover-up," ex-Senator John DeCamp talks about him near the end of his book.

There was information that he was about to go public with shortly before he died.

I don't recall exactly what it was and my book is on loan to a friend.

BlueAngel
07-08-2007, 03:59 PM
This is an excerpt from a memo posted on www.educate-yourself.org from John DeCamp:

"KISSINGER WAS THE SINGLE MOST INVOLVED & IMPORTANT INDIVIDUAL IN THE FIRING-IMPROPERLY-OF MY BEST FRIEND, C.I.A. HEAD BILL COLBY. He fired Colby improperly &, in my opinion, because Colby was revealing before the Congress (Church Committee Hearings) secrets of government wrong doing Kissinger did not want exposed."

BlueAngel
07-08-2007, 04:16 PM
Wikipedia may have wrong information, but it wouldn't be to my advantage.

If Colby was exposing CIA wrongdoing while the DCI, before the Church Commission and was fired for it, the date of these commission hearings occuring in 1975 as reflected in Wikipedia, would be incorrect.

Colby was appointed as DCI in 1971 and left 2-1/2 years later. This would not place him in the position as director of CIA until 1975 when Bush, Sr. replaced him.

He may have been testifying outside of an agency position or, the hearings may have started while he was director and concluded in 1975.

In any event, there is a time gap unaccounted for leaving the agency without a DIRECTOR????

BlueAngel
07-08-2007, 07:52 PM
If Springsteen's children visit his unofficial site, any of his fan sites, or visited his OFFICIAL site, I don't think they would be shocked to hear that some of his fans don't care for his wife's musical talent.

Certainly, they can understand that not everyone who worships their father must worship their mother, as well.

Certainly, they understand that not everyone regards their father as a hero.

Certainly, they understand that not everyone listens to his music.

I, for one, cannot begin to understand why some of his fans affix this status to him.

Did he save their lives or did he incarcerate them?

Did I miss out on some heroic action by him?

Don't believe I did!

The remarks they might read would pale in comparison to the vulgar, vicious and sexual comments made on the RightWingLounge thread when Hemi ejaculated in my face or when I was told to scream louder next time I had an orgasm.

Or the remark by Paddy to go eff yourself bloody or by Wade who would like to slice someone from their b*alls to their throat.

It would pale in comparison to the lyrics that their father writes. Particularly, Reno and Red-Headed woman.

If they visit another fan site other than his official or unoffical, they might read threads about how many fans believe he is an alcoholic.

They might be at a show where he tells the audience to "shut the eff up."

I assume they've been conditioned and are immune to the stuff.

That said, my duty is to my country.

Period!

BlueAngel
07-08-2007, 07:59 PM
Unbelievable!

To express your distaste for his wife's musical talent on his unofficial message board, is to deliberately use your power to hurt your HERO's children, just for the heck of it.

OMG!!

Apparently, they know that a certain portion of his audience is made up of CRACKPOTS!!!

I agree. The most ridiculous post EVER!!!

Especially the HERO part.

BlueAngel
07-08-2007, 08:23 PM
I don't know about you, but if the Earth is overpopulated, I wouldn't think that the obvious answer is to allow procreation only on a selective basis from a select gene pool--globally with authoritative international oversight.

THIS SOUNDS COMPLETELY IN LINE WITH ILLUMINATI BREEDING AND THEIR QUEST FOR WORLD DEPOPULATION IN ADDITION TO THE MEASURES THEY TAKE THROUGH WAR, STARVATION AND DISEASES.

AUTHORITATIVE INTERNATIONAL OVERSIGHT!!

Oh, yes, let's give them even more control over our beings!

I would think that someone whose opinion is such that I stated above would probably support mass sterilization and aborting fetuses regardless of the term.

BlueAngel
07-08-2007, 09:43 PM
Another "dream verse:"

Follow that dream
wherever it may lead
Come on, follow that dream
to find the love you need

----------------------------------------------

Yep! We all need to follow a dream to find the love we need.

How does that work?

No clue!

Does this man know REALITY??

Does he understand this realm exists??

or

Does he walk in dreams, sleep in dreams, talk in dreams, live in dreams?

BlueAngel
07-08-2007, 10:03 PM
When any musician performs a song about the war; and I'm not referring to a "cryptic" song such as, "Devils and Dust," but perhaps Neil Young's newest, or when Springsteen performs, "Bring em Home," (which isn't his song) they know, as well as the music moguls that these songs play on the emotions of the fans.

The fans feel some connection to the musician. As if they share the same "code," or speak the same language, which couldn't be farther from the truth.

As stated by Dylan, my friends and I speak the same language, share the same code and Springsteen and Joel's, "Code of Silence."

If they sing it, the war will not end.

Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young's most recent shows were protest themed.

Same MO 30 plus years ago during the Viet Nam war.

Nothing's changed except the rich get richer.

Hero's, they are not.

Hero's are those who were forced to serve and protect not their countrymen, but the interests of the banksters/Illuminati.

They are heros in my eyes for they have been used by the government for UNJUST purposes just as myself and thousands of other mind control victims were.

Their lives were sacrificed, but not in vain, because justice will be served.

We and many others were betrayed by our government. A government whose job it is to protect and defend the constitution of the United State's of America and her citizens.

War is a racquet.

So, too, is the music industry.

BlueAngel
07-09-2007, 10:23 AM
This song is bothering the heck out of me:

We Are The World
Michael Jackson

We are the world

There comes a time
When we heed a certain call
When the world must come together as one
There are people dying
And it's time to lend a hand to live
The greatest gift of all

We can't go on pretending day by day
That someone, somewhere will soon make a change
We're all a part of God's great big family
And the truth, you know,love is all we need

We are the world
We are the children
We are the ones who make a brighter day
So let’s start giving
There’s a choice we're making
We’re saving our own lifes
It’s true we’ll make a better day, just you and me

Send them your heart
So they'll know that someone cares
And their lifes will be stronger and free
As God has shown us by turning stones to bread
and so we all must lend a helping hand

We are the world
We are the children
We are the ones who make a brighter day
So let’s start giving
There’s a choice we're making
We’re saving our own lifes
It’s true we’ll make a better day, just you and me

When you're down and out, there seems no hope at all
But if you just believe there's no way we can fall
Well, well, well, well let us realize oh! that a change can only come
When we stand together as one

We are the world
We are the children
We are the ones who make a brighter day
So let’s start giving
There’s a choice we're making
We’re saving our own lifes
It’s true we’ll make a better day, just you and me

We are the world
We are the children
We are the ones who make a brighter day
So let’s start giving
There's a choice we're making
We're saving our own lifes
It’s true we’ll make a better day, just you and me


We are the world
(are the world)
We are the children
(are the children)
We are the ones who’ll make a brighter day so lets start giving
(so let's start giving)
There’s a choice we’re makin’
We’re savin’ our own lifes
It’s true we’ll make a brighter day, just you and me
ohh let me hear you!!!
Rep til fade

----------------------------------------------

First of all, if this song is about starving children all over the world, dying children; what about starving and dying adults?

They don't matter?

Why is it love is all you need?

Obviously, love doesn't nourish, cure diseases, etc.

But, the verse that bothers me the most is the following:

We are the world
We are the children
We are the ones who make a brighter day
So let’s start giving
There's a choice we're making
We're saving our own lifes
It’s true we’ll make a better day, just you and me

If this verse is about starving children in Africa, how in God's name are they going to start giving?

How do they have the ability to make a choice to save their own lives?

How can they make a better day?

Isn't this song suppose to represent everyone coming together who isn't starving, (i.e., the musicians who participated) to help the children.

Obviously, this verse is about something else.

What else?

I can interpret it, but I'm sure, by now, you understand that the use of the word CHILDREN in this verse is not referring to starving children in the world, but to the child-like alters present in Jackson and other musicians.

They are making a choice to save their own lives.

Shadow
07-09-2007, 11:54 AM
First of all, if this song is about starving children all over the world, dying children; what about starving and dying adults?

They don't matter?

Why is it love is all you need?

Obviously, love doesn't nourish, cure diseases, etc

BlueAngel
07-09-2007, 03:47 PM
I hear a parrot.

BlueAngel
07-09-2007, 06:01 PM
I think it's time to read:

"Down Thunder Road"
The Making of Bruce Springsteen

The Boss (what a ridiculous nickname); was MADE!!!!

The BOSS of what????

BlueAngel
07-09-2007, 09:38 PM
They're still bantering over there.

Reminds me of the time I was on Springsteen's official site and VAST wasn't in a very good mood.

He said something like, "who do you think all of this bantering is for?"

"It's for you, for you, for you."

I remember thinking to myself, all your chit chat is for me?

Couldn't imagine why?

Seemed like he was pissed that they were chattering with one another and I didn't have any clue it was for me.

Why would anyone who isn't being spoken to directly think that chatter amongst a group of people is for them?

And, for what purpose?

Got me!

I honestly think they like hearing themselves talk. Makes them feel important.

It wasn't like I was holding a gun to their head and forcing them to engage in babble with one another. They could have discontinued it at any time since it wasn't accomplishing whatever it was suppose to.

Maybe they expected me to be grateful.

Right!!!

I suspect this reference to the chit chat being for me was to make me feel beholden to them. Indebted to them.

You're doing this for me? Your babbling and bantering, chit chatting and chattering!!

WOW!! How gracious.

The worst part of reliving "false" memories while I was on Springsteen's site is that I would fall into what I referred to as a "black hole."

Just crying and crying and crying. I had been instructed, much to my detriment by my abusers, to go into my bed, make the room dark and go under my covers.

You know, "hide 'neath my cover and study my pain."

This, of course, was to shut out the world and get sucked deeper into a "black hole" of depression.

I'm sure this is what they desired.

BlueAngel
07-09-2007, 11:14 PM
When this HEMI poster said, "you're a dirty girl" after I had recalled memories of abuse by Cheney and Bush, Sr., on his official site, I was devastated, of course.

I didn't expect this on the site, because I was under the impression in an altered state at that time, before psychological abuse was in high gear, that these people were my protectors from the past.

It floored me, to say the least, because this is the reverse psychology used on a mind control victim. It brought back the shame from the past that one is made to feel when forced to engage in activities of a disgusting nature against your own free will and the prepetrators placing the shame/blame on you.

You're instigated it. You were making eyes. You asked for it. You're a dirty girl. You gave us the signal. You flirted.

The next day, several posters, excluding Hemi, wrapped themselves around me. Consuling me as to Hemi's remark.

This, of course, a ploy to insinuate that Hemi was not of them, but he was.

This, to keep me amongst them, the likes of HEMI so they could play both sides of the fence and further their psychological operations to gain total control of my mind.

I would say with certainty that as I was reporting on the site, those who were not involved in my abuse, some whom I reported to in the past; my protectors, some who know of me, were present.

The Springsteen cult would have wished me to believe that only politicians/military personnel, etc. were involved in my abuse, and not musicians.

This could have been accomplished had I not regained my senses and left the site. But, I did, because I never lost complete touch with reality.

I know abuse! I know when someone is attempting to manipulate and control me. I know a liar when I see one. I know when a "psychological operation" is underway.

They never thought I would break-away and recollect my abuse within the music industry and Springsteen as my main handler.

They were hoping to incarcerate me amongst them; keeping me in an altered state so that they could destroy me before I uncovered the truth as to "Springsteen's" true role in my past.

BlueAngel
07-09-2007, 11:47 PM
Oh, come on, Bring em Home!

You've got to be kidding!!!

Bruce Springsteen doesn't have any political clout in this country.

He's a musician for goodnesssakes.

Does he have a Senate seat we don't know about? Does he vote on policies we don't know about?

I think you have "blind faith" in the man.

You believe he is something he is not!!

Springsteen is in what for the "long haul?"

I think you believe he's a politician and not a musician!

Springsteen believes in what this country once stood for?

Really?

This country has never stood for what you think it does!!

You've been fooled!!

Funny, how you think the quote by Springsteen, "blind faith in your leaders or anything will get you killed," is so profound, but the democrats lead you by the nose.

Does this quote only apply to Republicans?

Springsteen will defend those tenents however and whenever he can.

Really??

Well, we're all waitin' on him to save the world cause GOLLY, you know, some of his fanatics think he's a HERO and it's about time he did something to live up to the name.

BlueAngel
07-10-2007, 09:19 AM
A few days ago there was a poster on the sideline with a username similar to the spelling of my daughter's name.

Just to let me know!

Recently, a reference to "limousine conservative" to let me know they're watching.

And, a reference to a WORD that my son uses in emails to me to let me know they hack into my computer.

BlueAngel
07-10-2007, 09:28 AM
Isn't that the truth!

Instead of releasing a quality DVD, Springsteen loves to tease his fans.

Hey, everybody look what I've still got in the can!

And, you keep HANGIN' ON thinkin' this isn't a business practice, but some type of oversight by management.

Stringin' you along.

Hook, line and sinker.

Don't fret. I'm sure they'll re-release another DVD on the anniversary of something or other.

But, then again, it'll probably feel like they're pouring more salt in your wounds.

You know, like the line in one of his songs; something like, "remember when I poured salt in your wound on the beach and stood out of reach."

Sounds just like him!

BlueAngel
07-10-2007, 10:14 AM
Interesting, isn't it?

Any and all things Springsteen can be answered in a matter of moments on his unofficial site by those with insight.

ANYTHING!!

However, if one inquires as to where they might find Bono's induction speech of Springsteen into the Hall of Fame and Springsteen's acceptance speech, the thread sits unanswered for days.

It's as if the question wasn't even asked!

Ever heard of Google?

or

ClubConspiracy?

You can find comprehensive coverage right here.

Shadow
07-10-2007, 11:37 AM
Isn't that the truth!

Instead of releasing a quality DVD, Springsteen loves to tease his fans.

Hey, everybody look what I've still got in the can!

And, you keep HANGIN' ON thinkin' this isn't a business practice, but some type of oversight by management.

Stringin' you along.

Hook, line and sinker.

Don't fret. I'm sure they'll re-release another DVD on the anniversary of something or other.

But, then again, it'll probably feel like they're pouring more salt in your wounds.

You know, like the line in one of his songs; something like, "remember when I poured salt in your wound on the beach and stood out of reach."

Sounds just like him!

BlueAngel
07-10-2007, 01:41 PM
Who let the parrot out of his cage?

BlueAngel
07-10-2007, 02:05 PM
BlueAngel wrote:
Let's assume that the earth is stationary.

Let's assume that the sun revolves around the Earth.

Let's assume this hypothosis and continue from there.

Why is it so distressing to some people when a certain truth is challenged?

Have our minds become programmed to accept that everything we have been taught from the cradle is written in stone?

Have our critical thinking abilities been squashed?

Why would some people become UPSET/outraged because the theory that the Earth rotates on its' axis and circles the sun has been described by some as untrue?

Would it be the first time that facts have been distorted?

Will it be the last time?

So, with that said, if the Earth is stationary, I have one question.

Is Planet Earth suspended in mid-air?



Shadow wrote:
Let's just assume that you are an idiot whose only credibility is the sheer volume of dribble that you post.

What you post is utter rubbish.



BlueAngel wrote:
Of course you are entitled to your OWN opinion regarding what I write; however, you are only one man's opinion.

Consider this; your opinion on any subject; your comments on any thread, may in fact, be complete and utter rubbish.

That would be my opinion.



Shadow wrote:
To paraphrase you, your opinions as well as the sum total of all the drivel you have slopped on us is complete and utter rubbish.

I can safely say that I am not alone in this, but I can not wait for your next inevitable meltdown and innevitable banning.



BlueAngel wrote:
First of all, you're not capable of paraphrasing anything or comprehending the written word for that matter. You've proven this beyond a shadow of a doubt.

The drivel, slop and utter rubbish you speak of oozes from your mouth.

Again, you've proven this beyond a shadow of a doubt.

You're bothered by me because you have some vested interest in protecting from becomming public knowledge that of which I speak.

The time spent away from this board was for rest and relaxation. Very well deserved and I thank those for having the foresight to provide this to me.

Whether you're alone or with an army in your desire to see me banned is of no consequence to me.

If I am banned, I'll be back either here writing or before a much larger audience.

Wouldn't that be lovely?

BlueAngel
07-10-2007, 02:08 PM
Shadow wrote:
Once more you have lost yourself in your little alternate world.
With you it is inevitable for the wool to be pulled over once more.



BlueAngel wrote:
I don't have an alternate world.

I'm grounded in reality.

Thank GOD I escaped the "disgusting pigs" once again.

You know, Springsteen and his crew of mind controllers and handlers who create alternate realities for their victims!

BlueAngel
07-10-2007, 02:42 PM
FYI, Shadow, I don't melt.

So, you can keep hopin' and wishin' but it ain't going to happen.

I'm as COLD as ICE.

This brings me to the razor blade incident, for some reason.

You know, it was said by my father that "if he ever caught the bastard who did this to me," he would kill him.

I said, I already told you who did it.

I was forced to lie, as I stated. Forced to say I did it to myself. My sister wouldn't corroborate the man with the stocking on his face and the boots and/or his name.

It was said that the attempt on my life failed this time, but next time it wouldn't.

Keep your mouth shut, if you want to live.

Whether or not social workers visited our house, I'm not sure. But, I recall I was constantly having to put on a happy face. Say, what I was told to say. Never deviate. Never add anything. Just answer a question, yes or no.

Did I want it to look like my parents were unfit. Take me and my sister away? Split up the family?

Could have been before a judge as well, because I have memories of having to practice this scenario, too.

Had to keep the story straight. That is, what I was forced to say.

I DID IT TO MYSELF.

Forced to look crazy; suicidal; institutionalized. A threat to myself.

Of course, that was a difficult situation to overcome.

Having to take responsibility for someone else's actions.

Actions that almost killed me.

BlueAngel
07-10-2007, 05:51 PM
There was a poster on his UNOFFICIAL site, Mr. Mercury. He was throwing around "sexual programming" triggers; commenting, "help is on the way," posted the lyrics to the song with a verse something like, "is my baby alive, is my baby alive, she danced herself to death."

This was after I was in my house saying aloud that some memories were laced with suicide commands.

Anyway, a comment was made that he had red hair.

Was this Van Morrison?

On another note, on his unofficial site, a poster made a comment about Bruce's distasteful actions during the Tunnel of Love tour with Julianne in the audience and his flirting and having an affair with Patti.

Another poster replied, "our Daddy's not a saint." So, was this one of his children? If so, his/her comments were quite shocking at times with sexual remarks being made about Springsteen's lips and how she thought he was hot.

During my time on the official site, conversation in an email focused around how HE would try in the past to help me enjoy lovemaking. I wouldn't call it that, but anyway.

This was to call up false memories that because of the disgusting sexual nature of the pigs, it was difficult for me to have intimate relations with him and, of course, he tried very hard in that regard.

BS!

Now we understand that VAST has no problem with a married man having a lady on the side.

Anyway, this is standard procedure. Most of them have women on the side, little girls, men, what have you due to their sexual deviant behavior, sexual programming and insatiable appetite.

Perhaps access to Playgirls. I mean, seriously, these women must be "programmed" to some degree like Anna Nicole.

Wasn't it STING who boasted that he could have hundreds of orgasms in one day?

BlueAngel
07-10-2007, 05:56 PM
The truth be told, I fought against sexual programming with every ounce of strength I had. Did I want to enjoy sexual activities with pigs? The answer is a resounding NO!

This was not to their satisfaction, of course, and so they would torture me sexually in this regard.

However, I didn't care.

It was to my satisfaction because I didn't
succumb to their disgusting lifestyle and/or habits.

BlueAngel
07-10-2007, 06:52 PM
Permission is granted, heretofore, to release my identity and any pertinent evidence/information provided in the past and/or present regarding my incarceration in MKULTRA/Project Monarch and within the music industry.

In Peace,
BlueAngel

BlueAngel
07-10-2007, 07:03 PM
Selective breeding is what the poster is proposing, as if that doesn't already occur within the Illuminati/elitist circle. Inbreeding, which has been scientifically calculated so that the "gene" pool is not contaminated.

Right in step with their program of depopulating by killing off the undesireables and creating a "Supreme Race."

The "Zionists" view themselves as those who posses "supreme intelligence," mass fortunes and, therefore, the "chosen ones" to rule the world.

They killed their own kind in World War II (not full breed), not of bloodline and yes, Hitler was one of them.

BlueAngel
07-10-2007, 10:03 PM
What is this information I'm receiving about doubles?

They all have doubles?

Does Landau look like Springsteen?

BlueAngel
07-10-2007, 10:05 PM
The time has come to release the pictures of Springsteen!

BlueAngel
07-10-2007, 11:39 PM
Black as Coal
BlueAngel

You placed your life within my hands
you trusted me
thought I was at your command

I used you up and spit you out
and never once did you doubt
that I wouldn't be able to break you down

well, now you've been broken
and that's for sure
cause I see the pieces all over the floor

your heart, your soul, they're as black as coal
cause filth
it touched you long ago
and you let it simmer
and you let it build

til it took over your mind
til it took over your soul
til it turned them black
just as black as coal

and the soot and the ashes
they're just smoldering within
and, oh, the sins, and, oh, the sins
that lay, they lay, upon your skin

you can't rub them off
can't erase your past
and you've got no choice
cause it's here at last

and I'm delivering to you my last words
the last you'll hear from this "little girl"
you tried to own me
tried to make me feel
like I wasn't free
like I wasn't real
just livin' just livin' in your dreamworld

oh, and your heart
oh, and your soul
they're both as black
they're as black as coal

oh, and your heart
oh, and your soul
they're both as black
they're as black as coal

and the ashes they're smoldering
and the soot on your skin
and, oh, and, oh, and oh,
all your sins

you can't rub them off
you can't erase them away
you can't even hope for a Sunny Day

cause you've got dues
you've got dues to pay
and, in the name of freedom
JUSTICE is comin' my way

BlueAngel
07-10-2007, 11:44 PM
In the name of FREEDOM, you have my blessings!

GOD will be with us!

In Peace,
BlueAngel

BlueAngel
07-11-2007, 12:14 AM
OMG!! How disgusting. A female pings a thread to a male poster and comments, "I love your kitty."

I'm sure you understand that "here, kitty, kitty," and you're my little kitty cat are "sexual programming" triggers.

Cat-like alters!

She then posts a link to a video clip of Springsteen performing, "Kitty's Back."

We don't need to explain the meaning of that title.

Ever hear of a woman or "little girl" by the name of Kitty?

BlueAngel
07-11-2007, 12:28 AM
I've always found it quite interesting how the rise of the Beast and future of our world is depicted in the Bible.

BlueAngel
07-11-2007, 09:06 AM
I was looking back yesterday at old covers of the Rolling Stone's magazine.

I've already talked about pictures of some male politicians cuddling with male musicians on the inside pages; a cover of Depp and Richards drapped all over one another.

I was just looking at Time Magazine's cover of Arnold and Bloomberg.

It's amazing how many pictures there are of these men with each other's skin on skin.

Close knit family, I would say.

BlueAngel
07-11-2007, 09:53 AM
Here's another visually pleasant lyric from a "Springsteen" song:

"Hey, little dolly with the blue jeans on
I wanna ramrod with you honey, till half-past dawn..."

BlueAngel
07-11-2007, 06:50 PM
Thanks for the link.

That's all well and good, but until such time as "pertinent" evidence/information hits mainstream media, I wouldn't hold my breathe believing somehow the Internet Intellectuals/investigators are going to save us all.

Yes, they are enligtening those who are asleep at the wheel and are to be commended for their tireless efforts.

Henry Makow, Alex Jones, to name a few.

I leave the rest to my compatriots and comrades.

Without them, I may have been "axed" long, long ago.

God Bless You!

In Peace,
BlueAngel

BlueAngel
07-11-2007, 08:54 PM
During my "rude awakening," some of the first memories I was recalling were about being used for blackmail purposes, pornography and that the entity I had been a prisoner of was a "worldwide cult." Satanic in nature.

I also began to recall that something horrible had happened to me. Some kind of accident that may have been reported in the local newspaper.

Just about an hour ago, after I wrote the post above this one, I began to recall a memory of being whisked away in a helicopter.

The trigger may have been that I referred to my comrades and compatriots.

While I was on Springsteen's official site and was recalling the false information that I had cut up my baby and been institutionalized, a poster commented "something in the night," referring to a helicopter having taken me from wherever I was, and in my mind's eye, I do see this scenario. So, the implantation of memories also encompass the imagery and replaces the actual event.

This false information about the helicopter whisking me away in the middle of the night after cutting up my baby and taking me to an institution is to cover-up the real memories of which I think I have uncovered to a certain degree.

I do believe I was institutionalized after the razor blade incident, but most probably not before I was hospitalized, or, perhaps, taken to McGill University Hospital in Canada after I was stabilized at Walter Reed.

If this INCIDENT was reported in the papers, I believe there were people, of course, who knew that I vanished, was institutionalized, sent away, whatever.

They may have spoken to me at the hospital before I was institutionalized and, perhaps, I mentioned the man with the stocking on his face and that I didn't do it to myself.

I'm sure there was an investigation of some sort or another.

So, I began to cry just a short while ago. I was having a conversation with my father. You knew I didn't do it to myself, but you let them send me away. I called you; I told you they weren't real doctors; and, now, look at me. Look at me. Look at your daughter. Look what they've done to me. I can barely remember what happened.

I'm screaming. I'm just screaming at him.

But, anyway, I am in isolation there. I am very afraid; being treated like an animal. Tortured. Memories erased, false ones implanted.

People arrive. They want to talk to me. See me. Take me out of there.

I am afraid. I won't go near them. I'm telling them they're just going to hurt me.

We're not going to hurt you. We're here to take to you home.

I believe Springsteen would like me to believe that he sent the helicopter to the island to rescue me. This is false.

I feel as though I was rescued from the institution.

After returning home; however, I was not the person that I was before the incident.

I was like a frightened animal. Having been placed in isolation; in the dark; dank and damp; treated like an animal. I didn't trust anyone.

We're going to make you afraid to trust anyone were their WORDS and, at that point, in my life, I had been so abused by so many people, it was a difficult task to overcome.

BlueAngel
07-11-2007, 10:31 PM
I Wanna Be Your Lover Lyrics
Prince

I ain't got no money
I ain't like those other guys U hang around
It's kinda funny
But they always seem 2 let U down
And I get discouraged
Cuz I never see U anymore
And I need your love baby, yeah
That's all I'm living 4, yeah
I didn't wanna pressure U, baby
But all I ever wanted 2 do...

I wanna be your lover
I wanna be the only one that makes U come... runnin'!
I wanna be your lover
I wanna turn U on, turn U out
All night long, make U shout "Oh lover, yeah!"
I wanna be the only one U come 4

I wanna be your brother
I wanna be your mother and your sister, 2
There ain't no other
That can do the things that I'll do 2 U
And I get discouraged
Cuz U treat me just like a child
And they say I'm so shy, yeah
But with U, I'll just go wild, ooh
I didn't wanna pressure U, baby ... no
But all I ever wanted 2 do...

I wanna be your lover
I wanna be the only one that makes U come... runnin'!
I wanna be your lover
I wanna turn U on, turn U out
All night long, make U shout "Oh lover, yeah!"

BlueAngel
07-11-2007, 10:35 PM
Real deep lyrics, aren't they?

As you've noticed that which is obvious, repetitive sexual overtones creates "sexual programming" and an infatuation with the artist, many times.

The repetitive use of the word "dream" plays a role in creating an altered state.

The use of various "female" names creates an illusion.

BlueAngel
07-11-2007, 10:38 PM
Sexy Dancer
Prince

Ahhhh!

Sexy dancer {x2}

Sexy dancer, U got my body screamin'
Sexy dancer, U got me just-a-creamin'
Sexy dancer, when U rub my body
Sexy dancer, it gets me so hot (Hot)

Sexy dancer, sexy dancer {x2}

Ahhhh!

Sexy dancer, I want your body, want your body
Sexy dancer, dance {x4 - both lines}

Sexy dancer, do that sexy dance
Sexy dancer, ah ah

Sexy dancer, sexy dancer {x2}

--------------------------------------------

More deep lyrics!

BlueAngel
07-11-2007, 10:41 PM
When We're Dancing Close and Slow
Prince

When we're dancing close and slow
I never want 2 let U go, no no
I feel your warm embrace
The softness of your face
Tell me baby, are we here alone?

When we're kissing long and hard
I can almost taste the thoughts within your mind
Sex-related fantasy
Is all that my mind can see
Baby, that's honestly the way I feel

When we're dancing close and slow
I'm not afraid 2 let my feelings show
I want 2 come inside of U
I want 2 hold U when we're through

---------------------------------------------

Seriously, who writes these lyrics for him?

Another one who has amassed a fortune promoting their agenda.

BlueAngel
07-11-2007, 10:45 PM
Bambi
Prince

I knew from the start
That I loved U with all my heart
But U were untrue
U had another lover and she looked just like U

Bambi, can't U understand?
Bambi, it's better with a man

It's so hard 2 believe
Maybe it's because U're so young
Or maybe I'm just 2 naive
Who's 2 say, maybe U're really having fun

Bambi, can't U understand?
Bambi, it's better with a man ... ow!

All your lovers, they look just like U
But they can only do the things that U do
Come on baby and take me by the hand
I'm gonna show U what it's like 2 be loved by a man

Bambi, I know what U need
Bambi, maybe U need 2 bleed

BlueAngel
07-11-2007, 10:50 PM
It's Gonna Be Lonely
Prince

We've been 2gether 4 quite some time
I'd think by now U'd know
It'll take 4ever 2 get U off my mind
If ever U decide 2 go
I guess I got a little insecurity
When it's concerning U
I guess I'm just afraid that if U ever leave
I'd be in a messed-up state of blue

And I'd be so lonely
Without U loving me, I know it's gonna be lonely
Without U giving me every little single thing that I need
Lonely

Whatever's in your kiss, it really turns me on
Till I go right out of my mind
And who could ever resist your accent from gay Paree
It gets me every time
I betcha thatcha never knew that in my dreams
U are the star
The only bummer is that U always want 2 leave
Who do U think U are?

Don't U know it's gonna be lonely?
Without U loving me, I know it's gonna be lonely
Without U giving me every little single thing that I need
Lonely

It's gonna be lonely
Without U loving me, giving me everything that I need
Oh pretty baby, can't U see it's gonna be lonely?

Without U loving me
I know, I know it's gonna be lonely

Oh, whatever's in your kiss
I never could resist
Oh baby, don't go!

We've been 2gether 4 quite some time
It would take 4ever 2 get U off my mind
Oh girl!

Without U loving me
I know it's gonna be lonely

Without U by my side
Don't U know that I could die, baby?

Without U loving me
Can't U see it's gonna be lonely?

It's gonna be lonely, baby

----------------------------------------------

MORE DEEP LYRICS!

Another whining, broken-hearted musician with only sex on his mind!

I've only looked at a few songs so far and it seems Prince has already had several different lovers.

One of the women has several lovers in addition to him. They're female and they all look like her.

BlueAngel
07-11-2007, 10:58 PM
Still Waiting
Prince

All my friends tell me about the loves they've had
Can't they see what they're doing 2 me, it makes me feel so bad
Cuz I'm so alone and broken-hearted
It ain't like my life is ended, but more like it never started
The love my friends rap about I keep anticipating
I try so hard but don't U know my patience is fading away, away

Still waiting - I'm waiting 4 that love
Still waiting - I wish on every star above
Still waiting - Waiting 4 the love 2 come around ... oh love
Waiting 4 the love 2 come around

People say that I'm 2 young, 2 young 2 fall in love
But they don't know
They really don't know that's all that I've been dreamin' of
Cuz I spend my nights just-a-cryin'
And I spend my days just-a-tryin'
2 find that love 2 call my own
Cuz I'm sick and tired of bein' alone

Still waiting - Waiting 4 that love
Still waiting - I wish on every star above
Still waiting - I'm waiting 4 the love 2 come around ... oh
(Waiting 4 the love) Don't U know that I'm waiting
(Waiting 4 the love) Still
(Waiting 4 the love) 2 come around now
I need somebody 2 hold onto, baby

Waiting and waiting, don't U know that I'm..
Still waiting - I'm waiting 4 your love sugar
Still waiting - If U're out there girl, please come 2 me
Still waiting - Don't make me cry no more
Still waiting - If U're out there baby, please come 2 me
Still waiting - I'm wishing and wishing 4 days baby
Still waiting - If U're out there girl, please come 2 me

-----------------------------------------------

He's tired of being alone. Same ole', same ole'. How pathetic is this song?

Who writes his lyrics? This man's most famous song is Purple Rain.

It will be interesting to see how his lyrics evolve over time, if they do.

Seems to be a pattern with some of the musician's whose songs I have reviewed.

I believe many times, within the cult, you write lyrics when you are a child/teenager and these songs are, perhaps, used in the beginning of your career and then "ghost" writers employed if as a singer, your songwriting skills cannot be enhanced through other means.

So far, Prince's lyrics sound, to me, like they were written by a child.

Shadow
07-12-2007, 01:29 AM
cretin, cretin, go away
come again some other day
woooohooooo, wooooohooooo
woooohooooo, wooooohooooo

BlueAngel
07-12-2007, 10:44 AM
Is see you are trolling me again.

Your only purpose for being here?

I think it's time you were banned.

I'll see what I can do about that.

You know, VAST does that wooohooo thing, as well. Funny, I received an email with the wooohoo in it, too.

BlueAngel
07-12-2007, 11:24 AM
Did Springsteen win a grammy for his album, "The Ghost of Tom Joad?

Did anyone buy it?

He thanked some exectutive who when listening to Joad saw his record sales disappearing.

If you don't think the music industry or an artist cares how many people buy their album, you are wrong.

Yes, they're always hoping that their CD sales and tours are a FLOP/failure.

Do you seriously think the music industry just lets their artists sit on their duffs?

They own them. They perform for them. They line their pockets with greenbacks.

Oh, here, we'll pay you millions over ten years, but do whatever the hell you like.

We don't care if any of your CD's or tours sell out.

Just do whatever the hell you like and we'll put this ten million in your bank account!

Anyone who thinks Springsteen does whatever the hell he wants within the music industry is, well, living in an illusion.

Let's see. In the past couple of years, he released, "Devils and Dust" and toured.

He released, "The Seeger Sessions Band, We Shall overcome and toured."

Currently, oh, those rumors have him releasing a CD and touring with the "E Street Band."

Yep, he does whatever he wants. Just sits around on his duff.

BlueAngel
07-12-2007, 11:27 AM
"Bruce Springsteen to release new E Street Band CD in the Fall"

From Fox News on-line:

Excerpt:

The general disarray at Sony Music's Columbia Records may have a savior: Bruce Springsteen.

Look, THE BOSS is saving the music industry because he's releasing a new E Street Band CD and touring. This is very IMPORTANT NEWS!

The Boss, as we still call him, is apparently planning a new album for release in late fall. Some sources insist that this will be an E Street Band album, and not another side project like the "Seeger Sessions" or a solo collection of introspective songs.

An E Street Band album means a big rock 'n' roll sound with Springsteen's featured players like Steve van Zandt, Max Weinberg and Clarence Clemons.

Sources tell me that tracks have been recorded with the group, and that the hope among Bruce insiders is that he will choose their project over several others he may have cooking.

The INSIDERS have the scoop on all things BRUCE! Such TOP SECRET projects!!

"You never know," one observer said, "but it's looking better and better."

(Story continues below)

BlueAngel
07-12-2007, 05:51 PM
Did Howard Stern once ask Little Steven who the song, Bobby Jean," was about?

Did Little Steven tell him that he never asked Springsteen but he assumed it was about him and their friendship?

Bobby Jean
Bruce Springsteen

Well I came by your house the other day, your mother said you went away
She said there was nothing that I could have done
There was nothing nobody could say
Me and you we've known each other ever since we were sixteen
I wished I would have known I wished I could have called you
Just to say goodbye Bobby Jean

Now you hung with me when all the others turned away turned up their nose
We liked the same music we liked the same bands we liked the same clothes
We told each other that we were the wildest, the wildest things we'd ever seen
Now I wished you would have told me I wished I could have talked to you
Just to say goodbye Bobby Jean

Now we went walking in the rain talking about the pain from the world we hid
Now there ain't nobody nowhere nohow gonna ever understand me the way you did
Maybe you'll be out there on that road somewhere
In some bus or train traveling along
In some motel room there'll be a radio playing
And you'll hear me sing this song
Well if you do you'll know I'm thinking of you and all the miles in between
And I'm just calling one last time not to change your mind
but just to say i miss you baby, good luck good bye bobby jean

BlueAngel
07-12-2007, 10:14 PM
Sorry to break this to you, but Patti Scailfa is not a "cash cow."

She has produced two CD's during her time within the music industry and a third is on its' way.

They throw her a bone every once in a while. They invest very little in her because they know their return will be minimal.

She's not going to break onto the scene and become an overnight sensation attrating a mass following.

That opportunity has passed her by, even if it remotely existed. Which it didn't.

She's in her fifties.

She is a mediocre singer, songwriter. She doesn't have sex appeal nor a stage presence.

This is what they want!

This isn't criticism.

It is what it "is."

Nothing more and nothing less.

BlueAngel
07-12-2007, 10:21 PM
Yep, that's one sexy tie!

BlueAngel
07-12-2007, 10:33 PM
Those whom you think are Springsteen "insiders" or "in the know," like it's some intelligence operation, but truly a psychological operation, just keep you guessing, stringing you along, throwing you a bone every once in a while.

Drooling for some information.

Chomping at the bit.

They've got you wrapped around their little finger.

It's a tactic.

Where is he? Is he in Atlanta recording? My, he's so elusive. Secrecy just surrounds him. Mystery, too.

Was there a Springsteen sighting? Where did you see him? Under the Exxon sign? When will his CD be out? Will he tour?

Yadda, yadda, yadda.

Do you have lives or do your lives revolve around his?

Did he suck the life right out of you?

Is he controlling your heart and your soul?

If you answered YES to any of the above, it would be safe to say that you've been drawn into a cult-like group; you're under their/his spell; you're being manipulated and controlled; you're in an altered state of consciousness, etc., etc., etc.

enoch
07-13-2007, 10:18 AM
Link to Paris - What would you do?

http://www.911blogger.com/files/audio/WhatWouldYouDoLong.mp3

Shadow
07-13-2007, 11:35 AM
Shadow wrote:
cretin, cretin, go away
come again some other day
woooohooooo, wooooohooooo
woooohooooo, wooooohooooo

BlueAngel
07-13-2007, 11:39 AM
It's quoting itself now.

BlueAngel
07-13-2007, 11:40 AM
enoch wrote:
Link to Paris - What would you do?

http://www.911blogger.com/files/audio/WhatWouldYouDoLong.mp3

What is this?

I'm not going to open or save this file.

Shadow
07-13-2007, 01:33 PM
Go on BlueMoron, go on :lol:

Shadow
07-13-2007, 01:34 PM
BlueAngel wrote:

enoch wrote:
Link to Paris - What would you do?

http://www.911blogger.com/files/audio/WhatWouldYouDoLong.mp3

What is this?

I'm not going to open or save this file.

You don'b believe in Data Vipers, do you? :lol:

BlueAngel
07-13-2007, 03:26 PM
Now that was funny!

You have to know the CODE if you want to speak amongst them.

Not my desire.

K2; I thought that was some kind of an insecticide.

Whatever!

Manging Springsteen's fanbase. That must be quite a job. How many do you suppose they employ for this task?

Seriously, they probably would be better referred to as "mind controllers."

It was suggested that Springsteen start a rumor that this would be the last tour with ESB (like that never happened before) in order to boost sales.

Oh, the mystery, oh they tactics!!

Did you know that Mark Twain, Winston Churchill and Springsteen all have something in common.

They love Niagra Falls.

Incredible!

Other than that, I'd say they have nothing in common.

roscoe
07-13-2007, 04:12 PM
Children of God-River Phoenix etc

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/femail/article.html?in_article_id=468046&in_page_id=1879

BlueAngel
07-13-2007, 04:21 PM
Thanks for that link, Roscoe, but what is the reference to River Phoenix?

Can you add some details?

roscoe
07-13-2007, 04:42 PM
While it is not mentioned in the article, River Phoenix was in the Children of God. Notice the use of the name Mo; remember Do(Marshall Applewhite) from Heaven's Gate?

See 1)article in Paranoia Magazine-Fall 1994.2)The New Cults- Walter Martin.3)Children of God-The Inside Story by Deborah Davis

BlueAngel
07-13-2007, 11:40 PM
So, let me get this straight.

Springsteen looks at his songs and in the end doesn't know where they came from.

Does he write these lyrics in an altered state or, perhaps, he doesn't write them at all.

He records in Atlanta without the ESB so it's safe to assume he and the ESB do not compose the music.

So, then what does he do?

He tours with the ESB singing songs that he didn't write or wrote from an altered state; songs that in the end when he looks at them he doesn't know where the came from and playing music which he didn't compose.

The quality of his voice and the music when they are performing live does not compare to what is heard on an ENHANCED CD!

BlueAngel
07-13-2007, 11:44 PM
I must release this.

I have been having memories and him with his sister.

BlueAngel
07-14-2007, 04:21 PM
The previous post needs grammatical correction:

I have been having recurring sexual "memories" of Springsteen, myself, his sister and another musician who was his good friend at the time.

These memories speak to the sexual dangerousness of incest as Springsteen so clearly pointed out during his speech inducting U2/Bono into the Hall of Fame.

The U2 song was incestuous. Can't recall the title, but it's in this thread.

You can use the analogy of an "exhibitionist" to understand the parallel between the two.

It is the danger of the act itself and getting away with it that creates the thrill.

Morality does not factor into the equation.

This is how "incestous" behavior is promoted whether born into the cult or recruited in some other manner.

There is nothing wrong, immoral, etc., about having sex with family members when you are a part of the "satanic cult."

BlueAngel
07-14-2007, 06:16 PM
If asked what your favorite Springsteen album is, you might reply that you don't have a favorite album, but like some of his early releases about the struggle of America.

This answer could qualify you as being guilty of the BIG DODGE!

Maybe you can't name a song or album of Springsteen's about the struggle of America because THERE AREN'T any.

You could certainly name songs about violence, obsession over little girls, sexual themes; songs that have no rhyme or reason, etc., etc., etc.

If you say that you don't care for his war rhetoric of late and don't elaborate, it might just be because THERE ISN'T any.

Please note that there was a BIG dodge here, folks.

Can you imagine that. A person living and breathing on the face of this planet who is incapable of naming a Springsteen album or song. IMAGINE THAT!!!

I certainly can!!

I wonder what songs he has written recently about the struggle of America.

Would those be the songs on Devils and Dust?

Like "Reno" or "Long Time Coming?"

Oh, yes, the struggles of a man who looks to having a threesome and pays $250 for "up the a**."

Are those the songs that he has most recently written about the struggles of America?

Actually, Springsteen's songs reflect his STRUGGLE and not the struggle of America.

Very frightening, indeed to witness people in a delusional state of mind.

BlueAngel
07-14-2007, 06:24 PM
Members of the "ESB" have CONTRIBUTED to the new album.

Additional tracks are being recorded with and without the ESB.

There is trouble describing the sound, but a lot of production is being used with the versions already recorded.

Different versions of each song are being recorded (with and without members of the ESB).

This is why Springsteen is a "solo" artist and the reason he was inducted into the Hall of Fame and the ESB most probably never will be.

How can it be positive news that this is the last tour for the entire ESB?

Just a rumor to attract an audience?

Look for the tour to kick off on or about 10/02/2007 in New York with a quick swing around the country until the end of November. All of the major cities, to include LA, DC, Philly, Boston, Chicago, etc. will be covered. The month of December will include a quick tour of Europe, about 10 shows or so. January and part of February look to be time off with a full world tour to begin in full effect during the Spring of 2008 (Feb/March) with outdoor arena shows scheduled for the summer of 2008. The U.S., Canada, Europe, and Australia, will all be on the schedule.

Yep. They pay Springsteen millions so he can do whatever he wants. Apparently, he loves non-stop recording and touring.

He owns them. They don't own him. He pays them. The don't pay him.

In your make-believe world of a cat named FIGMENT.

BlueAngel
07-14-2007, 06:58 PM
If Springsteen will be playing sheds/ampitheatres during next summer's tour, I don't really think a long-winded explanation is necessary; blah, blah, blah.

The answer would be that his drawing power is not what it use to be.

"Expandable audience?"

He could sell lawn seats if the ticket sales increase over and above the "sheds" seating capacity.

This sounds realistic.

I think the days of 50,000/60,000 are OVER.

He wasn't filling the 6,000 indoor theatre seats during his solo "Devils and Dust" tour.

Not sure, but I would think "The Seeger Sessions Band" tour would fall into the same category as the "Devils and Dust" solo tour.

THE ESB just toured in 99, 2003 and I'm sure they were re-circulating in between.

It's not like they've been on hiatus.

It's not like Springsteen hasn't been touring solo and with other bands; appearing here, there and everywhere.

It's not like his wife isn't releasing a CD in a few months.

It's almost like an overdose.

Yep! Springsteen. The "blue collar" poster boy.

Everything he does artistically is for the "average American." The working class.

It has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with managing his music career/finances.

For those in make-believe land, he's role playing. The MAKING OF BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN...

Stay tuned....

BlueAngel
07-14-2007, 07:00 PM
Always remember this line:

"I got Mary pregnant..."

BlueAngel
07-14-2007, 09:39 PM
Oh, please, not rushed.

Devils and Dust; 2005
Seeger Sessions; 2006
E Street Band; 2007

BlueAngel
07-15-2007, 11:46 AM
Hotel California
Eagles

On a dark desert highway,
Cool wind in my hair,
Warm smell of "colitas"
Rising up through the air,
Up ahead in the distance
I saw a shimmering light,
My head grew heavy and my sight grew dim,
I had to stop for the night.

There she stood in the doorway,
I heard the mission bell
And I was thinkin' to myself :
"This could be heaven and this could be hell"
Then she lit up a candle,
And she showed me the way,
There were voices down the corridor,
I thought I heard them say

Welcome to the Hotel California,
Such a lovely place, (Such a lovely place) Such a lovely face
Plenty of room at the Hotel California,
Any time of year, (Any time of year) You can find it here

Her mind is Tiffany-twisted,
She got the Mercedes Benz,
She got a lot of pretty, pretty boys
she calls friends
How they dance in the courtyard,
Sweet summer sweat
Some dance to remember
Some dance to forget

So I called up the Captain
"Please bring me my wine"
He said, "We haven't had that spirit here
Since nineteen sixty-nine"
And still those voices are calling from far away,
Wake you up in the middle of the night
Just to hear them say:

Welcome to the Hotel California,
Such a lovely place, (Such a lovely place) Such a lovely face
They're livin' it up at the Hotel California,
What a nice surprise, (What a nice surprise) Bring your alibis

Mirrors on the ceiling,
The pink champagne on ice, and she said:
"We are all just prisoners here,
Of our own device"
And in the master's chambers
They gathered for the feast,
They stabbed it with their steely knives,
But they just can't kill the beast

Last think I remember,
I was running for the door,
I had to find the passage back to the place I was before,
"Relax," said the night man,
"We are programmed to receive,
You can check out anytime you like...but you can never leave"

--------------------------------------------

What is this song about?

They stab it with their steely knives, but they just can't kill the beast...

We are all just prisoners here of our own device....

I remember when this was one of the first songs posted on Springsteen's offical site.

I thought to myself, "you'll find out soon enough that I'm not a prisoner here of my own device or otherwise."

BlueAngel
07-15-2007, 12:11 PM
Artist: BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN
Album: Devils & Dust
Title: long time comin'


Where the creek runs shallow and sandy
The moon swoops over the stars
______ straight into my arms
I'm going to get birth naked and bury my old soul
And dance on it's grave
Dance on his grave

It's a long time comin'
A long time comin' my dear
But now it's here

My daddy was a stranger
Lived in a hotel downtown
When I was a kid
He was just somebody I'd see around
Somebody I'd see around

It's a long time comin'
A long time comin' my dear
But now it's here

Down below and pulling on my shirt
I got some kids of my own
But if I had one wish kids
That your mistakes would be your own
Your sins would be your own

It's a long time comin'
A long time comin' my dear
But now it's here

I am laying under the arms of Cassiopeia
The sword of Orion sweeps
It's me and you Rosie
Crackling like crossed wires
I listen to you breathing in your sleep

The sparks of the fire are left burning
Lie 2 kids in sleeping bags
I reach under your shirt and feel your belly
There's another one kicking inside
I promise I ain't going to fuck it up this time

-------------------------------------------------


Following are excerpts from an interview with Springsteen by Esquire's Cal Fussman:

Sprinsteen says:

I wrote this next song (Long Time Coming) about chances. Your kids kind of bring that with 'em. It's not that simple, though. The first five to seven years, you're kind of like the benevolent hand of God. The next five, six, or seven, you're an absurd and silly man. You fall into the tolerable-idiot category. That's all right. You get into that old thing about how you're not going to make the same mistakes your parents made. That's sort of how you honor them. You try to take the best and leave the rest. But, of course, you do. You end up with seemingly absurd situations. I had an argument with my son, and ten minutes later I hear coming out of his room [loud, angry guitar sounds]: Bmmmmmummmamummamummamumma. It goes on.

With that thought in mind, I wrote this song, set it out west. Little bit of that rebirth of spirit that the kids bring. So . . . "A Long Time Comin'."


Well, if I had one wish
In this godforsaken world
Kids, it'd be that
Your mistakes would be your own . . .
Your sins would be your own . . .

-----------------------------------------------

This song has one verse, as above, depicting the theme Springsteen attributes to it.

One verse!

So, what's with the rest of the lyrics within the song?

Just filler!

He's talking to Rosalita again (Rosie). Telling her he's not going to eff it up this time.

Remember, how he yells out in the song, "Rosalita," that he's coming to confiscate her, liberate her; he wants to be her man and that he just signed with a record company.

Who is Rosalita?

Not only did he get Mary pregnant, but apparently in this song Rosie is pregnant and he's not going to eff it up this time.

Like I said before, is he talking about having effed it up when he got Mary pregnant?

Apparently, he has two other children. One with Mary and one with Rosie and we don't know whom the mothers are.

And what's the deal with the verse:

"It's been a long time comin'
but now it's here..."

What's been a long time coming?

And

What is finally here?

More psychobabble from Springsteen in an attempt to explain his lyrics. You know, it's just so deep with him. Either that or after he or whomever wrote this song looked at it, they didn't know where it came from.

BlueAngel
07-15-2007, 11:36 PM
Taken from the "RedRat Claims..." thread:

"that he is Bruce Springsteen."

Posted on: 2007/7/16 0:02

RedRat said:

And just who the F are you? I never claimed anything bitch! I'm sick and tired of your endless charade!

Posted on: 2007/7/16 0:05

BlueAngel said:

You claimed you were Bruce Springsteen, my tormentor.

Shall I copy and paste?

I'm sure you remember.

What's up Bruce?

Posted on: 2007/7/16 0:07

RedRat said:

"Listen LADY! listen the fuck up! quit your fucken crap now! I'm sick of your damm bullshit!"

Posted on: 2007/7/16 0:08

RedRat said:

"BA, as a poster here, you know it is YOU who are my prey. (ooops, I mean it is you who ????)"
Posted on: 2007/7/16 0:11

RedRat said:

SO FUCKEN WHAT!

Posted on: 2007/7/16 0:13

Taken from Trash the Rain Forest Thread:

"YES BA, I'm BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN, I"M your tormentor, or AM I?"

Posted on: 2007/7/16 0:15

RedRat said:

"Well this means that your (infected) we must cleanse your soul! you know! you are a deciever!"

Posted on: 2007/7/15 23:45

RedRat said:

"LISTEN LITTLE GIRL, I have put up with your non-sensical rubbish for too long now, you really need to get with the program."

redrat11
07-15-2007, 11:41 PM
BlueAngel wrote:
Taken from the "RedRat Claims..." thread:

"that he is Bruce Springsteen."

Posted on: 2007/7/16 0:02

RedRat said:

And just who the F are you? I never claimed anything bitch! I'm sick and tired of your endless charade!

Posted on: 2007/7/16 0:05

BlueAngel said:

You claimed you were Bruce Springsteen, my tormentor.

Shall I copy and paste?

I'm sure you remember.

What's up Bruce?

Posted on: 2007/7/16 0:07

RedRat said:

"Listen LADY! listen the fuck up! quit your fucken crap now! I'm sick of your damm bullshit!"

Posted on: 2007/7/16 0:08

RedRat said:

"BA, as a poster here, you know it is YOU who are my prey. (ooops, I mean it is you who ????)"

Posted on: 2007/7/16 0:11

RedRat said:

SO FUCKEN WHAT!

Posted on: 2007/7/16 0:13

Taken from Trash the Rain Forest Thread:

"YES BA, I'm BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN, I"M your tormentor, or AM I?"

Posted on: 2007/7/16 0:15

RedRat said:

"Well this means that your (infected) we must cleanse your soul! you know! you are a deciever!"

Posted on: 2007/7/15 23:45

RedRat said:

"LISTEN LITTLE GIRL, I have put up with your non-sensical rubbish for too long now, you really need to get with the program."


Am I Lucifer? it is you, who have decieved the world. Right now LUCIFER is in your mind....

BlueAngel
07-15-2007, 11:48 PM
RedRat said:

"Am I Lucifer? it is you, who have decieved the world. Right now LUCIFER is in your mind...."

I don't know what you are and I don't care.

I have deceived no one, but Springsteen certainly has.

Lucifer does not exist in my world.

You of "all people" should know that.

BlueAngel
07-15-2007, 11:57 PM
Hey, RedRat,

Does Bruce Springsteen know you're here claiming to be him and my TORMENTOR?

Or, are you Brucie?

redrat11
07-15-2007, 11:59 PM
NO! I am myself..........

BlueAngel
07-16-2007, 12:02 AM
redrat11 wrote:
NO! I am myself..........

Are you Brucie, Baby!?!

Or, just yourself?

Someone with followers!?!

What is it you do that attracts a following?

Are you just someone claiming to be Bruce Springsteen because you're a nutcase.

He's a nutcase, too, you know.

BlueAngel
07-16-2007, 12:39 AM
redrat11 wrote:
NO! I am myself..........

Why would you say that you're Bruce Springsteen and why would you think that he's MY tormentor?

To the contrary.

You seem very tormented.

BlueAngel
07-16-2007, 12:56 AM
Springsteen said:

"That's the job," Springsteen said about his live shows. "As you go along, you're bringing the music and all these characters to life every night. And you can't do it without doing it, you know? I'm not going to come out and just run through some songs, or play favorites.

"I'm in search of some life essence. That's why people come."

Springsteen said:

You're bringing all these characters to life every night. I'm in search of some life essence. That's why people come."

Why doesn't he speak singularly? As in, I'm bringing these characters.... and not YOU'RE?

What the heck does this mean?

People come to his shows because HE's in search of some life essence.

He looks to his audience to fulfill his search for life essence.

And, you can't do it without doing it.

Really?

You have to be doing it to be doing it.

The mumbo jumbo; the psychobabble continues. So complicated, this business of music he portrays.

BlueAngel
07-16-2007, 01:14 AM
How creepy!

Wade/CRT/Boston Blackie;

Pretending he owns a KITTY; talks to it; feeds it, etc.

Mentions how he has fur on his leg from the Kitty.

Madison commenting that the kitty is a pretty girl.

DNA posting that help is on the way for the kitty and ENOUGH is ENOUGH!

Get where I'm going with this???

I'm sure you do!

Strange, very strange, indeed.

BlueAngel
07-16-2007, 01:23 AM
CRT/Wade/Boston Blackie and GOD only knows who else.

Also known as Chick and Carmine.

konig19
07-16-2007, 08:16 AM
Long Thread..... :)
I've read just a part of it,and I have to say,
In Peace,
BlueAngel
makes some valid points,I dont know what to say to all of it though.
Is BlueAngel still around?Im sorry Im a little confused by this thread.
She sounds like an interesting person to talk to though,and it seems she really likes to write :)
Peace BlueAngel.

BlueAngel
07-16-2007, 08:38 AM
I consider RedRat's postings last night to be of a very serious nature; just as I consider my abuse within the music industry/satanic cult/MKULTRA/Project Monarch to have been of a very SERIOUS NATURE.

Just as I consider my abuse while posting on Springsteen's OFFICIAL site to be of a very serious nature.

As I stated in the beginning, I am writing about my past; I am imparting knowledge and intelligence; and I AM HERE because of criminal matters perpetrated upon me by the government of the United States of America!

I do not follow the CODE OF SILENCE. I did not follow it when I was young and I do not follow it now.

I am a DEFECTOR; turned OPERATIVE. The only way to escape their incarceration and live as free as possible without the "ties that bind; noose around my neck or being shot "point blank."

We can ascertain the following from RedRat's postings last night:

(1) He is nutcase;

(2) He detests me for no other reason than what
I have written on this thread.

(2) He was posting for Bruce Springsteen.

In Peace,
BlueAngel

BlueAngel
07-16-2007, 12:14 PM
Can you imagine people in their right mind talking amongst one another about an imaginary "kitty?"

Can you ponder why they would go to these lengths?

Remember, "sex slaves" have BETA cat like alters.

They ask the "kitty," who is named Figment (Figgy is its' nickname) if she (yes, a picture of a kitty was posted and the poster said it was a "pretty girl") would like to try some meatless hotdogs?

After realizing the "pretty kitty" liked them, the poster offered here two hot dogs because they are BIG!!

Another poster than tells the pussycat to listen up because he knows not what he's doing but it gets easier each time you do it.

This poster continues to refer to the imaginary cat as a "pretty kitty."

Yes, "pretty kitty." Sexual programming trigger.

The only reason they are having this dialogue amongst themselves.

Shadow
07-16-2007, 12:20 PM
No

BlueAngel
07-16-2007, 01:55 PM
I certainly hope that the majority of these posters at his unoffical site do not have children.

Sure you can imagine it, Shadow.

I've explained it.

Their "sexual deviant behavior" is being projected onto an imaginary "pretty kitty" named figment (figgy for short).

The kitty has to "earn her keep" and sit in Uncle's lap.

She is offered BIG hot dogs for lunch.

Oh, yes, a kittens diet always consists of big HOT DOGS.

SICKOs!

BlueAngel
07-16-2007, 05:27 PM
PM from Konig19:

Peace BlueAngel

Like I said Im a little confused by the thread and wasnt sure this was you,since at the beginning of the thread you are Anonymous,signing out with In Peace,BlueAngel.Yet now your name is BlueAngel with out your signature at the end.
Anyway ummm,I really would like to talk to you sometime.

Why is it you want to talk to me?

I dont want to bother you in anyway,I dont want nothing but talk to you about some of the things you are describing to have happened to you.

I don't talk via PM's. You can say what you want to say on this thread.

Maybe I can help you understand some of the things better (God Willing).

Why is it you think you can help me understand some of the things better? Why would you know better than I? What things?

You seem like a good person,the reason you are not giving up,the very reason God is with you.

I don't seem like a good person. I am a good person. What is it I'm not giving up?

I came into your thread from Henry Makow site.
I can see that you are being very cautions,and dont trust anybody,which is a good thing.

It is not a good thing not to trust anybody. There are many people in my life that I trust; however, I don't trust anonymous posters on internet sites.

Im a little sceptical that you will want to talk to me ,but trust me I really would like to talk to you with all good intentions.

Your skepticism is logical. I don't know you so, therefore, I have no idea if you can be trusted; why you would want to talk to me; why I would want to talk to you and/or what your intentions might be.

I understand that you are married and I respect that,is a good thing to be married to a good person.

I have no idea why you would comment on my marriage.

Is unreal whats happening in this world today,while I always knew this world was corrupt for an obvious reason,I really never thought it was this bad until I read story about all this mind control from some other people like you.
By the way I cant believe how majority of peoples fail to understand where all the voices in the head come from,the very reason its so affective.But just to so you know mind control is the devils tool.
Humans dont have much to do with it if anything at all.Humans only aide to make it happen,I believe.

I disagree completely with your opinion that humans have nothing to do with mind control. Those who manipulate and control; the sadistic pigs are evil, but humans, nonetheless. This is your theory. My knowledge is based on my incarceration as stated within this thread and others.

What voices in whose heads?

Peace BlueAngel
God Bless You.

BlueAngel
07-16-2007, 08:46 PM
Here is some more mumbo, jumbo; psychobabble from The Boss as reported in Esquire Magazine:

That first step onstage is an unusual feeling. I'm not sure I can connect it to other people's lives outside of perhaps taking a driver's test. You really want that license. The feeling in your gut means you're sober—and that's good. It also means something's at stake, something that matters. You're taking a risk, which is the essence of all live performance. It's not an entirely comfortable feeling, but it's a necessary one. It happens every time, and it tends to stop the minute I put my hands on any instrument.

Taking a risk. What are you risking? The fact that people might notice you don't have much talent. The feeling in your gut means you're sober? Something's at stake? What's at stake? People might notice you don't have much talent?

Hello. Nice to be home. Thank you. Thanks.

Only got a few requests: If you've got cell phones, please turn 'em off, 'cause when I hear those little jingles I go homicidal, and I'd rather not sweep the crowd with a chain saw when my relatives are here. Outside of that, I can use as much quiet as I can get. Enjoy yourselves.

How often do you go homicidal?

Well I sought gold and diamond rings
My own drug to ease the pain that living brings
Walked from the mountain to the valley floor
Searching for my beautiful reward
Searching for my beautiful reward

Keep searchin' but I don't think there's a reward waitin' for ya.

> Part of what that risk is, part of what I'm searching for from the moment I put my foot onstage until I walk off, is the invisible thread of energy and inspiration or soul or whatever you want to call it that is going to take me to that place where a song can explode to life. That thread is between me and the audience every night. Always. I've got to grab it out of the air and physicalize it into something they can hear. Sometimes it's like catching a wave that can take you through all twenty-five songs. Sometimes it'll take you through ten and then you have to refind it. Sometimes you're looking for it again after one. A big part of what I'm experiencing when I'm performing is that search.

Oh, my, he's lookin' for that invisible thread of energy that will take him to a place where a song can explode to life. He grabs it out of the air and physicalize's it into something they can hear. WHAT???? He catches a wave that takes him through all 25 songs. Sometimes, he has to refind it. He's searching. Always searching.

I don't have a piano and a sax and drums behind me on this tour. So I had to re-approach the guitar as an instrument of solo accompaniment. It becomes a bit of a new land, and I'll play it in ways I've never played it before. I'm constantly asking myself, How can I wring as much music and meaning as possible out of those six strings? One thing I do know: With the correct playing style, you can summon up an orchestra.

He plays that guitar solo in ways that he's never played it before. He constantly asks himself how can he get more out of those six strings? Always taking it to the extreme.

Blah, Blah, Blah and more Blah! Riding a wave; grabing it out of the air. Oh, my, such hystrionics. Physicalizing it. Refinding it. Searching.

This business of music so complicated!

BlueAngel
07-16-2007, 08:53 PM
BREAKING NEWS:

Sony Music have confirmed that Bruce Springsteen is scheduled to release new music before the end of the year and sources close the artist claim that he will be reunited with the E Street Band for the time since 2003's The Rising.

Like Springsteen hasn't been releasing new music on a consistent basis. I mean, ten years for Bob Seger. That was breaking news. How long since Devils and Dust and The Seeger Sessions Band? WOW!! Reunited with the E Street Band. As if, they broke up or something. They are a sessions band. I guess they better get their sheet music and start practicing. First time since 2003!! Oh, my, four years have passed.

The Boss has released a number of solo projects in recent years such as Devils and Dust and The Seeger Sessions but Fox News reports that the new album will not be another side project or a solo collection of introspective songs.

So, everything Springsteen produced without the E Street Band are side projects or solo introspective songs. Yeah, real introspective, I'd say.

BlueAngel
07-16-2007, 09:01 PM
Springsteen Concert Aids Music Education for Needy Kids in NYC

By Patrick Cole


Bruce Springsteen onstage July 16 (Bloomberg) -- The next Bruce Springsteen may have the original to thank.

I don't think anyone will be thanking Springsteen.

Music for Youth, bolstered by a Springsteen tribute concert that raised $150,000 for the foundation, is giving $350,000 to 14 music education programs for underprivileged students in New York City.

How was $150,000 raised? Did the musicians contribute or ask others for money? Most probably the latter. So, the foundation is giving $350,000 to 14 music education programs for underprivileged students in New York City. That's very generous. I'd think if every musician donated some money they would well exceed that figure ten fold.

Springsteen, who grew up and lives in neighboring New Jersey, made a surprise appearance at the Carnegie Hall concert in April and sang ``The Promised Land'' and ``Rosalita'' with guest artists such as Ronnie Spector and Pete Yorn. Springsteen also donated an unspecified amount to Music for Youth, a division of UJA-Federation of New York.

Why is the amount unspecified?

I heard this was a very strange evening according to the reviews.

``Bruce's philanthropy and his music are a beacon to people,'' said Jon Marcus, Music for Youth's director. ``They respect him as artist, and the performers were just thrilled to pay tribute to his music.''

Did you ever read his lyrics or are you a "sexual deviant," too? Yes, what a role model Springsteen is for children. Make sure they listen to "red-headed woman," "Reno," and all the other songs with the words "little girls" in them.

Among the programs receiving $25,000 grants are the New York Pops' Salute to Music, which provides free Saturday music lessons to 125 junior-high school students; the Harlem School of the Arts, which helps needy music students attend college, and the Young People's Chorus of New York City.

The Bloomingdale School of Music, Bronx House Jewish Community Center Music School, Brooklyn Youth Chorus Academy and Opus 118 Harlem School of Music also will receive money.

``This grant really helps support a program that's costly to run,'' James Johnson, executive director of the New York Pops, said in an interview. Johnson said the money will cover about a third of the $75,000 needed to provide weekend classes this year.

Scholarships

Opus 118 Harlem School of Music provides after-school instruction in voice, violin, guitar and piano to about 150 children. Philip Willis, the program's executive director, said the grant will fund scholarships for students who can't afford to pay $1,000 for the lessons.

``There's virtually no one here who is paying full price,'' Willis said in an interview.

Music for Youth, founded in 1995, is trying to fill the gap left by the cutting of music classes in public schools. In the 2001-02 school year, about 75 percent of third-graders in U.S. urban areas received weekly music instruction, down from about 85 percent when they were first-graders, according to a U.S. Department of Education study published in 2006.

``Schools choose not to offer music because they don't understand how important music education is,'' said Charles Feldman, Music for Youth's chairman and vice president of writer-publisher relations at BMI, which represents composers and publishers. ``If children learn how to play a musical instrument, it helps their cognitive ability.''

Music for Youth receives support from leading record labels, including Arista, EMI and Capitol.

To contact the reporter on this story: Patrick Cole in New York at

BlueAngel
07-16-2007, 10:23 PM
Take a look at this "GREAT" walk in music Springsteen uses during some of his tours:

Unbelievable. Just fantastic.

Tongue in cheek.

Volume 1 /Disc 1 Of 3
New Born Soul Staples Singers
Dear Mrs. Roosevelt Bob Dylan
Old Corn Liquor Joe Thompson
Working On A Building The Johnson Mountain Boys
Did You Hear John Hurt? Dave Van Ronk
Texas Cowboy Glen Ohrlin
Oklahoma Hills Arlo Guthrie
Ghost Of A Girl Bluerunners
Strange Man Dorothy Love Coates
Long Journey Home J.D. Crowe And The New South
El Ahualulco Los Pregoneros Del Puerto
Oh Death Tarbox Ramblers
Pastures Of Plenty Tom Paxton
My Rock Swan Silvertones
You Can't Hold On Holmes Brothers
Just One Kiss Beau Jocque & The Zydeco Hi-Rollers
Chez Seychelles Beausoleil
We Are Nowhere And This Is Now Bright Eyes & Emmylou Harris
Play A Train Song Todd Snider
Grand Coulee Dam Bob Dylan
On A Night Like This Los Lobos
One More Cup Of Coffee Setah

Volume One /Disc 2 Of 3
Blood In My Eyes Bob Dylan
Voodoo Mens & Voodoo Dolls Bluerunners
I Can't Help It Marion Williams
Cotton Fields Creedence Clearwater Revival
Diamond Joe Bob Dylan
Non Dirle Che Non E' Cosi Francesco Di Gregori
Hard Travelin' Woody Guthrie
Packing Up Clara Ward
Comrade Fill No Glass For Me Ron Sexsmith
Tom Dooley Doc Watson
Jesus Gave Me Water Soul Stirrers
People Get Ready The Chambers Brothers
Midnight Special Creedence Clearwater Revival
Dixie Bob Dylan
City Of Gold Dixie Hummingbirds
I Dream Of Jeannie With The Light Brown Hair Roger Mcguinn
Candy Man Mississippi John Hurt
Joe Hill Paul Robeson
Black And Blue Kermit Ruffins
Roll On Buddy Ramblin' Jack Elliott
Battle Of New Orleans Jimmie Driftwood
Bumble Bee Big Mama Thornton
Big Head Bluerunners

Volume One /Disc 3 Of 3 Version 2
Bridging The Gap Nas*
Hard Times Come Again No More Mavis Staples
Beautiful Dreamer Raul Malo
Autumn Waltz Henry Kaiser
See See Rider The Chambers Brothers
Samson And Delilah Reverend Gary Davis
It Ain't Me Babe Joan Baez With Bob Dylan

Volume Two /Disc 1 Of 3
Mississippi Bob Dylan
Valerie Patti Scialfa
My Ride's Here Warren Zevon
Queen Of The Underworld Jesse Malin
Ourselves To Know Warren Zevon
Nightswimming R.E.M.
Living With The Law Chris Whitley
Alone Again Or Love
Long Black Veil The Band
Million Dollar Bash Bob Dylan And The Band
Sloop John B Beach Boys
Promised Land Sleater - Kinney
Linda Paloma Jackson Browne
It's All Over Now Byrds
Portland, Oregon Loretta Lynn
Loving Her Is Easier Kris Kristofferson
Sweet Thing Van Morrison
Summer Of Drugs Victoria Williams
Valerie Linda Ronstadt & Emmylou Harris
Wall Of Death Richard & Linda Thompson

Volume Two /Disc 2 Of 3
Lonesome Day Blues Bob Dylan
Big Sky Country Chris Whitley
Oil In My Lamp The Byrds
Me And Bobby McGee Kris Kristofferson
Movin' On Up Primal Scream
Lebanon, Tennesee Ron Sexsmith
Dark End Of The Street Percy Sledge
Time Will Tell Jimmy Cliff
This Is England The Clash
Saint Valentine Joe Ely
Touch The Hem Sam Cooke
If You Could Read My Mind Bobby Blue Band
Everybody Knows Leonard Cohen
Sufferin' In The Land Jimmy Cliff
Dirty Old Town The Pogues
The Body Of An American The Pogues
She Calls Your Name Beth Orton
Chestnut Mare The Byrds
Hate This Town Slim Dunlap
New York City Song Dion

Volume Two /Disc 3 Of 3
Ranches And Rivers Joe Ely
Just For You Sam Cooke
Life's Little Ups And Downs Charlie Rich
Take Out Some Insurance Jimmy Reed
Straight Lines Wood
Chicken Shack Boogie Amos Milburn
Stay You Wood

Volume Three /Disc 1 Of 3
Beautiful Day Bob Neuwirth
Lucky Day Rank & File
About Today The National
Far From Any Road The Handsome Family
Seas Of Cortez Green On Red
Static On The Radio Jim White
Travelin' Light Bob Neuwirth W/ Peter Case
Hard Drive Evan Dando
Alabama Bound Roger Mcguinn W/ Pete Seeger
Oughta Go Around Hamell On Trial
I'll Tag Along Richard Thompson
Sin City The Flying Burrito Brothers
Ventura Lucinda Williams
Anselmo Los Lobos
Barrier Reef Old 97's
One Piece At A Time Michelle Shocked
Feed Kill Chain Jay Farrar
Things John Cale
When You Gonna Wake Up Lee Williams & The Spiritual Qc's
Everybody's Got A Job To Do Bob Neuwirth

Volume Three /Disc 2 Of 3
Ballad Of Thunder Road Robert Mitchum
Days Of Armageddon Song Dog
Hardin Wouldn't Run Steve Earle
Death's The Easy Way My Morning Jacket
Conductor Wore Black Rank & File
John The Revelator Roger Mcguinn W/ Odetta
99 To Life Social Distortion
I Hung My Head Johnny Cash
Prisoner Of Charlemagne
Love Of The Common People Nicky Thomas
The Brazos River Roger Mcguinn W/ Frank & Mary Hamilton
Excuse Me While I Break My Own Heart Tonight Whiskeytown
Pretty Polly Dock Boggs
Jump Me One More Time John Lee Hoooker
Gonna Change My Way Of Thinking Bob Dylan & Mavis Staples
Sweet And Shiny Eyes Bob Neuwirth
Sail Away Lady Roger Mcguinn W/ Odetta
Miniskirt The Sleepy Jackson
Hollywood Bed The Blasters
Get Rhythm Jawbone
Coyote Rank & File
When He Returns Rance Williams

Volume Three /Disc 3 Of 3
Heaven's Wall The Devlins
Carmina Burana Fantasy Sandy Bull

Walk Out
Slow Burn Four Tet

BlueAngel
07-16-2007, 10:26 PM
During the "Devils and Dust" tour, concessions were closed, but merchandise was available for purchase.

BlueAngel
07-16-2007, 10:28 PM
I use to say, "don't ever tell me to STFU." EVER! I'm never going to STFU. EVER!

You STFU!

How can you treat me this way, I would ask him. How can you possibly think that I believe you even know what love is?

The only person you love is yourself.

True to my word.

BlueAngel
07-16-2007, 10:31 PM
As I said previously, I constantly repeated, "you're not THE BOSS of me."

No one is the boss of me.

I'm the boss of myself.

Stop trying to boss me around.

Oh, but I am THE BOSS of you, he would say.

I'd reply. You may think you're THE BOSS of me now, but you're not always going to be THE BOSS of me.

True to my word.

I gave him the "nickname."

That's why he can't explain how it was derived.

konig19
07-16-2007, 10:32 PM
BlueAngel wrote:
PM from Konig19:

Peace BlueAngel

Like I said Im a little confused by the thread and wasnt sure this was you,since at the beginning of the thread you are Anonymous,signing out with In Peace,BlueAngel.Yet now your name is BlueAngel with out your signature at the end.
Anyway ummm,I really would like to talk to you sometime.



BlueAngel Im not trying to judge you,I cant, I dont know anything about you other than what you posted in this thread.I dont trust you, and Im not expecting you that you trust me either.
I like very much some of the things you say because it just makes so much sense,it is obvious.
Like the fact how the music industry is being used as just an other tool to spread immorality trough the masses.

Why is it you want to talk to me?

Why not?I must say is one of the stupider questions to ask someone,I dont mean to offend you tough.

I dont want to bother you in anyway,I dont want nothing but talk to you about some of the things you are describing to have happened to you.

I don't talk via PM's. You can say what you want to say on this thread.

OK, thats fine if you dont want to talk via pm,'s.I like talking via pm's though,because its
easier to hold a conversation with someone, its much faster,and makes me know the person better.
Im not having intentions to talk to you endlessly or be your friend,just wanted to talk thats all, yes via pm's.
I also respect your decision that you choose not to,not that I expected you would for various reasons,like being to busy and so on.


Maybe I can help you understand some of the things better (God Willing).

Why is it you think you can help me understand some of the things better? Why would you know better than I? What things?
:) BlueAngel,Why not?Nobody knows everything other than God.Like you can see, I never said I know better than you.
But its all good Angel.

You seem like a good person,the reason you are not giving up,the very reason God is with you.

I don't seem like a good person. I am a good person. What is it I'm not giving up?

Well Angel I was looking at you from my perspective,having said this, I dont know you all that well to judge you,but from looking at your posts you seems like a good person,just like I said.
Tip,dont tell others that you are a good person not until you prove so,saying something dont mean much to me.Thats all politics,saying something but doing an other thing.
Id say Im a good person as well,but I wont make people believe that I am just by saying.

I came into your thread from Henry Makow site.
I can see that you are being very cautions,and dont trust anybody,which is a good thing.

It is not a good thing not to trust anybody. There are many people in my life that I trust; however, I don't trust anonymous posters on internet sites.

:) You are anonymous to me as well,but that doesnt mean I cant talk to you,or listen to what you have to say.Didnt mean to not trust anyone though,like your family and so on.


Im a little sceptical that you will want to talk to me ,but trust me I really would like to talk to you with all good intentions.

Your skepticism is logical. I don't know you so, therefore, I have no idea if you can be trusted; why you would want to talk to me; why I would want to talk to you and/or what your intentions might be.

OK, :) Im not expecting you to trust me nor to believer what I have to say.I like people to make up there own mind.Why would I talk to you?Well lets say because you are talking to me,I mean everybody.Its my right to question you since you are the one who started this conversation,is not fair trying to downplay this.Im sorry if Im sounding mean to you.


I understand that you are married and I respect that,is a good thing to be married to a good person.

I have no idea why you would comment on my marriage.
Because you commented on it first,right?
So Im saying thats good to be married to a good person like you are saying you are married too.
And by the way I only said to let you know that Im aware that you are married and I respect that.I dont want to downplay marriage in anyway,like you are saying marriage gives us strength.

Is unreal whats happening in this world today,while I always knew this world was corrupt for an obvious reason,I really never thought it was this bad until I read story about all this mind control from some other people like you.
By the way I cant believe how majority of peoples fail to understand where all the voices in the head come from,the very reason its so affective.But just to so you know mind control is the devils tool.
Humans dont have much to do with it if anything at all.Humans only aide to make it happen,I believe.

I disagree completely with your opinion that humans have nothing to do with mind control. Those who manipulate and control; the sadistic pigs are evil, but humans, nonetheless. This is your theory. My knowledge is based on my incarceration as stated within this thread and others.

What voices in whose heads?

Why are you downplaying what I know?You calling it a theory?
I know very much about these things,Tanks God for that,no,Im not saying I know everything.
Like I said Mind Control is the devils tool.
Humans can only aide to that with the means of drugs and other tools.
As I understand you been hearing voices reading some of your posts,and it wouldnt surprise me at all if this was true.
But I meant the people overall though,always being reported in the news as how somebody killed somebody because they heard voices in there head to do so.

Peace BlueAngel
God Bless You.

Peace Angel.
Praise Be To God Lord of The Universe.

BlueAngel
07-16-2007, 10:35 PM
Anybody know the title of the Rod Stewart song, "Young Hearts," wherein he sings "Patti had a ten pound baby boy?"

I guess they wanted someone who wasn't paying attention to their scene to know this.

BlueAngel
07-16-2007, 11:01 PM
Why are you downplaying what I know?

I have no idea what you know, so, therefore, I could not possibly be downplaying it.

You calling it a theory?

Unless you provide otherwise, it's a theory.

I know very much about these things,Tanks God for that,no,Im not saying I know everything.

So, what is it you know?

Like I said Mind Control is the devils tool.

Mind control is a tool used by evil people. If you desire to call them the devil, that is your choice.

Humans can only aide to that with the means of drugs and other tools.

Evil people use mind control tools. These evil people are "sadistic pigs." They are not the devil.

As I understand you been hearing voices reading some of your posts,and it wouldnt surprise me at all if this was true.

I've explained in detail about "the voices" that I no longer hear. This makes it true; your verification is not needed and so, therefore, it should not surprise you.

But I meant the people overall though,always being reported in the news as how somebody killed somebody because they heard voices in there head to do so.

Good thing my abusers, torturers, mind controllers, sadistic pigs and Springsteen weren't able to program me in that manner. Too bad for them, huh? God Bless my PROTECTORS. Peace be with them.

Peace BlueAngel
God Bless You.

BlueAngel
07-16-2007, 11:29 PM
Now, that's funny. The Bruce and Patti show.

That's about what it boils down to, isn't it?

Obviously, Springsteen's had to try to maintain this strong martial status, family man "act" for very good reasons.

I don't need to elaborate.

This is why Patti is always in your face.

Don't you get it?

Her stage presence is naught; her vocals are grinding; her sex appeal is zero; her guitar playing is lazily strumming.

But she's in your face.

Not my face. Your face. The fan's faces.

They thought back in the day she'd be in my face and bother me as if that could have been me. Thank GOD it wasn't. His shadow.

While I was on his OFFICAL site they tried the same tactic and they're still at it on his unofficial site, but there isn't anything to be jealous about.

Why would I be jealous over someone whom I've described as a PIG???

You see, people who are Springsteen fanatics think that if you don't like Patti's talent or her role in the band, you are JEALOUS.

Jealous because she married to Springsteen.

Get real.

Can't voice an opinion and/or criticism without playing the jealousy card.

Ridiculous.

It might just be that you don't care for her talent.

Did you ever think of that?

Perhaps she doesn't add anything. Kind of like Ono and Linda.

Just an annoying backdrop.

Looking at it and asking yourself, "why is she there?

But, oh, no, it couldn't possibly be because she is talented. YOU MUST BE JEALOUS THAT SHE'S MARRIED TO BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN.

Give me a break!

During the filming of Live in Dublin, how many times did they fly her back and forth from Jersey to Dublin to sing an ummemorable, "If I Fall Behind."

He had his children on stage and his daughter introduced the band.

You know, it's a family affair.

Keeping up the public image!

Where would Patti be without Springsteen?

Probably a lounge act.

Where would Springsteen be without Patti/Landau?

?

konig19
07-16-2007, 11:35 PM
BlueAngel wrote:
Why are you downplaying what I know?

I have no idea what you know, so, therefore, I could not possibly be downplaying it.
OK,true that,but than no need to call it a theory.

You calling it a theory?
Unless you provide otherwise, it's a theory.
Like above.

I know very much about these things,Tanks God for that,no,Im not saying I know everything.
So, what is it you know?
Lets say I know why this World is so corrupt.

Like I said Mind Control is the devils tool.
Mind control is a tool used by evil people. If you desire to call them the devil, that is your choice.
No I dont call people the devils,and they are not.
The devils are evil though and they make people do very evil things.
The devils attack us emotionally and try to control our psyche,evil people (the devil followers) on the other hand are more dangerous they can attack us physically.
Devils know us emotionally,they know our psyche very well,they know how to control people and how to trigger certain feelings or emotions.
We humans dont have this ability other than he aide of the devils,drugs,or certain tools which can affect our thoughts.


Humans can only aide to that with the means of drugs and other tools.

Evil people use mind control tools. These evil people are "sadistic pigs." They are not the devil.
TRUE.

As I understand you been hearing voices reading some of your posts,and it wouldnt surprise me at all if this was true.
I've explained in detail about "the voices" that I no longer hear. This makes it true; your verification is not needed and so, therefore, it should not surprise you.
Well no need to be mean :)

But I meant the people overall though,always being reported in the news as how somebody killed somebody because they heard voices in there head to do so.
Good thing my abusers, torturers, mind controllers, sadistic pigs and Springsteen weren't able to program me in that manner. Too bad for them, huh? God Bless my PROTECTORS. Peace be with them.
Yes,Thank God.
Praise Be To God Lord Of the Universe.
Peace BlueAngel
God Bless You.

BlueAngel
07-17-2007, 12:23 AM
BlueAngel said:

"So, what is it you know?"

Konig19 said:

"Lets say I know why this World is so corrupt."

That makes you and a whole bunch of other people. Please, do elaborate. That's what CC is all about. No need to hold back. Spill the beans. Conspiracy theorists are all about solving the mysteries they put forth. We don't get caught up in tricks/tools of the mind controllers. So, don't be mysterious or you'll look like one of them.

Konig19 said:

"No I dont call people the devils,and they are not. The devils are evil though and they make people do very evil things."

I don't give the devil his due. In fact, I don't dialogue with others about the devil. That's what THEY do. People do evil things and blaming it on the devil(s) is an excuse.

Konig19 said:

"The devils attack us emotionally and try to control our psyche,evil people (the devil followers) on the other hand are more dangerous they can attack us physically."

The devils don't attack us. Maybe they attack you. The satan worshipper followers, who would be devil worshippers themselves are more dangerous than the devil himself. Really? They can attack us physically? Basically, what you're saying is that evil people hire evil people to hurt other people. Right? Is this a suggestion?


Konig19 said:

"Devils know us emotionally,they know our psyche very well,they know how to control people and how to trigger certain feelings or emotions."

Devils might know you emotionally, but, as I said, I don't give the devil his due. You seem to have a very personal relationship with the devils. Know all about those devils, don't you? You really believe the devil/satan/Lucifer exists, don't you? Did THEY put these demons inside of you?

We humans dont have this ability other than he aide of the devils,drugs,or certain tools which can affect our thoughts.

Humans have the ability to mind control. Don't be foolish and continue to blame some DEVIL.

Humans can only aide to that with the means of drugs and other tools.

Evil humans are responsible for their actions, not the devil as their aid.

BlueAngel
07-17-2007, 12:26 AM
Now, that's funny. The Bruce and Patti show.

That's about what it boils down to, isn't it?

Obviously, Springsteen's had to try to maintain this strong martial status, family man "act" for very good reasons.

I don't need to elaborate.

This is why Patti is always in your face.

Don't you get it?

Her stage presence is naught; her vocals are grinding; her sex appeal is zero; her guitar playing is lazily strumming.

But she's in your face.

Not my face. Your face. The fan's faces.

They thought back in the day she'd be in my face and bother me as if that could have been me. Thank GOD it wasn't. His shadow.

While I was on his OFFICAL site they tried the same tactic and they're still at it on his unofficial site, but there isn't anything to be jealous about.

Why would I be jealous over someone whom I've described as a PIG???

You see, people who are Springsteen fanatics think that if you don't like Patti's talent or her role in the band, you are JEALOUS.

Jealous because she married to Springsteen.

Get real.

Can't voice an opinion and/or criticism without playing the jealousy card.

Ridiculous.

It might just be that you don't care for her talent.

Did you ever think of that?

Perhaps she doesn't add anything. Kind of like Ono and Linda.

Just an annoying backdrop.

Looking at it and asking yourself, "why is she there?

But, oh, no, it couldn't possibly be because she isn't talented. YOU MUST BE JEALOUS THAT SHE'S MARRIED TO BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN.

Give me a break!

During the filming of Live in Dublin, how many times did they fly her back and forth from Jersey to Dublin to sing an ummemorable, "If I Fall Behind."

He had his children on stage and his daughter introduced the band.

You know, it's a family affair.

Keeping up the public image!

Where would Patti be without Springsteen?

Probably a lounge act.

Where would Springsteen be without Patti/Landau?

?

BlueAngel
07-17-2007, 12:40 AM
Suki Lahav is an Israeli violinist and vocalist who is most known for being a member of Bruce Springsteen's E Street Band from September 1974 to March 1975.

On record, Lahav sang the choir-like vocals on "4th of July, Asbury Park (Sandy)" from the album The Wild, The Innocent and The E Street Shuffle and played violin on the epic "Jungleland" from the Born to Run album. In concert, Lahav's violin and vocals were a focal point of Springsteen's shows during this time, such as in perhaps the definitive rendition of "Incident on 57th Street", performed February 5, 1975, at the Main Point in Bryn Mawr, PA.

Lahav's husband Louis was a recording engineer working for Springsteen during this time. They returned to Israel later in 1975, ending her role in the E Street Band. She later remarried and raised a family in Jerusalem.

------------------------------------------------

Did Springsteen have an affair with Suki Lahav?

Her husband was a recording engineer working for him during her time with the E Street Band from September 1974 until March 1975.

BlueAngel
07-17-2007, 12:43 AM
They ventured that Springsteen had a tendency to do this, hence, Patti?

Do what?

Infidelity (i.e., Julianne) and sexual affairs with other men's wives?

Is that what they ventured to say?

Did they say anything about "sex slaves" and/or obsessions with little girls?

BlueAngel
07-17-2007, 01:12 AM
I mean, come on, singing a song about "oral sex" with your wife, how it tastes and then letting your adolescent daughter wear a t-shirt that reads:

"I'm a red-headed woman"

That's just disgusting and immoral to say the least.

Are his children not embarrassed and ashamed?

What about his wife?

Does she not have any scruples?

What about the lyrics in one of his songs about being on the "prowl" for a wild child.

Masturbating, and getting a good one off now and again.

This man needs psychiatric help!

BlueAngel
07-17-2007, 01:41 AM
Seriously, looking back at the thread started at his unoffical site by a poster saying that he missed me, I'm just aghast.

If you discontinue posting, you're considered to have fallen off the face of the earth. This is what was said about me.

One poster says, "I have no update on cheese or liars??, but rumor has it the dish ran away with the spoon.

Another poster replies that he liked watching cheese and crackers arguing with each other.

When this thread was moved to another area, a poster replied, "this thread doesn't make any sense."

DUH! I replied, it's designed that way.

A poster said, "I wish I knew what happened to her" and VAST then posts a picture of a person in a strait jacket.

Unbelievable, but TRUE!

It makes one want to hop in the shower and wash away any remnants that might remain of having been in close contact with an infectious disease.

FILTH that they are!

BlueAngel
07-17-2007, 02:01 AM
Seriously. What is wrong with that woman?

Allowing her daughter to wear that t-shirt?

Has she no shame?

Has he no shame?

What kind of parents are they?

Oh, Daddy's going to sing "Reno" now.

I'm surprised "social services" hasn't intervened.

This woman, Patti Scailfa, stands on stage with her husband while he sings, "Hey little girl is your Daddy home."

"Can he do the things that I do."

She stands on stage while he sings, "red-headed woman."

Her husand sings a song with the line:

"250 up the a**."

Their father had an affair with their mother while he was married and conceived a child.

He sings about sex, sex and more sex.

Have they no shame?

Apparently not!

And, there were posters on this site that said they felt sorry for my children.

Give me a break!

BlueAngel
07-17-2007, 08:55 AM
Suki Lahav is an Israeli violinist and vocalist who is most known for being a member of Bruce Springsteen's E Street Band from September 1974 to March 1975.

On record, Lahav sang the choir-like vocals on "4th of July, Asbury Park (Sandy)" from the album The Wild, The Innocent and The E Street Shuffle and played violin on the epic "Jungleland" from the Born to Run album. In concert, Lahav's violin and vocals were a focal point of Springsteen's shows during this time, such as in perhaps the definitive rendition of "Incident on 57th Street", performed February 5, 1975, at the Main Point in Bryn Mawr, PA.

Lahav's husband Louis was a recording engineer working for Springsteen during this time. They returned to Israel later in 1975, ending her role in the E Street Band. She later remarried and raised a family in Jerusalem.

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Did Springsteen have an affair with Suki Lahav?

Her husband was a recording engineer working for him during her time with the E Street Band from September 1974 until March 1975.

I see, the hence, Patti reference is that Springsteen needed a replacement for his upcoming tour.

konig19
07-17-2007, 09:16 AM
BlueAngel wrote:
BlueAngel said:
"So, what is it you know?"
That makes you and a whole bunch of other people. Please, do elaborate. That's what CC is all about. No need to hold back. Spill the beans. Conspiracy theorists are all about solving the mysteries they put forth. We don't get caught up in tricks/tools of the mind controllers. So, don't be mysterious or you'll look like one of them.
Im not trying to be mysterious,but what do I know?
I know that people can be very stupid.
I know that most people hate the truth, the very reason why this World is so corrupt.Thanks God Im not one of those people.
Majority of people will argue with falsehood to defeat the truth,and this leads to nowhere but confusion,injustice, towards oneself and others.
There is only one TRUTH everything else is falsehood.
I guess you have checked out the Protocols of the Elders of Zions,if you havent you should.
Its a real document its not a fake,and of course it makes all the sense to when looking from the devils perspective.Written by humans,work of the devil.It contains instruction on how to run the World,How to trick the human beings,How to deceive us,How to keep us busy with things that have no real benefit to us,and How to enslave us all by the means of our ignorance to the truth.
In this thread you have posters saying the very thing whats wrong with this world ,only for people to see it as a joke,even though they are speaking the truth yet most people are oblivious to it.
This person signs out with Devil.
Not a coincident.
From the Protocol of the Elders of Zion:
WE SHALL DESTROY GOD

3. But even freedom might be harmless and have its place in the State economy without injury to the well-being of the peoples if it rested upon the foundation of faith in God, upon the brotherhood of humanity, unconnected with the conception of equality, which is negatived by the very laws of creation, for they have established subordination. With such a faith as this a people might be governed by a wardship of parishes, and would walk contentedly and humbly under the guiding hand of its spiritual pastor submitting to the dispositions of God upon earth. This is the reason why IT IS INDISPENSABLE FOR US TO UNDERMINE ALL FAITH, TO TEAR OUT OF THE MIND OF THE "GOYIM" THE VERY PRINCIPLE OF GOD-HEAD AND THE SPIRIT, AND TO PUT IN ITS PLACE ARITHMETICAL CALCULATIONS AND MATERIAL NEEDS.
Its self explanatory.
God is the Truth,we are responsible to acknowledge this fact,and to live according to God laws and instructions which benefit all of us.
God does not need us,God is in no need of anyone,but we need God,and God wants the best for His servants.
Judaism,Christianity,and Islam are only religions acceptable to God,in fact all are one and the same religion,all from Abraham,peace be upon him.
All are valid religions and all advocate the truth.
But unfortunately all the above religions are corrupt.
Religion is not at fault,people are,people have corrupted religious teachings and have made religion invalid as its practiced today by the overwhelming majority of people.Thus making religion invalid,ineffective,something satan is very happy with.People make fun of religion,even find faults in it,but what these people (some do) dont realize is the fact that they are looking at corrupted religious teachings which obviously are false.
This is the truth,but most people hate the truth.
I know people dont even like discussing religion,and yet it is all we have,God is our Lord.
People have turned there backs to God, people are following satan who only leads people towards injustice and misery.The very reason there is so much evil in this World
NWO is the devils tool to enslave the mankind.
And it has nothing to do with order,just the opposite.
This is my short answer to your question as to why the world is corrupt,this is not just my opinion but the truth.
I don't give the devil his due. In fact, I don't dialogue with others about the devil. That's what THEY do. People do evil things and blaming it on the devil(s) is an excuse.
Im not sure I understand where you stand here?
You acknowledge the fact that people actually sell there souls to the devils,in return of some favor.
Those who do so though become slaves to the devils, and are instructed to do immoral and all these evil things.
Why do you think people sacrifice (those in cults) children,or animals to the so called gods,this has been going on for thousands of years its all the same,its pagan,its disbelief.
Why do you think all the cults are so secret?
Who are the politicians talking about when they refer to the shadowy government,the black hand,the man behind the curtain?What are those people afraid of,when they speak about being controlled, being watched all the time,saying: there is a power so organized,so watchful,that you better not speak above your breath in condemnation of it?
But I have to say you are right,when you say,its the people who are at fault, we can not blame the devils,this is true.
The devils have no power over anyone accept those who reject God.It is the peoples fault who end up listening to the devils evil calls.
When we reject God,we reject the truth,we reject any help from God,and thus people end as devil followers,confused,and do all kind of evil things.
Not until we seek God's help,do we get help,not until we believe and submit to God are we immune to devil schemes.
The devils don't attack us. Maybe they attack you. The satan worshipper followers, who would be devil worshippers themselves are more dangerous than the devil himself. Really? They can attack us physically? Basically, what you're saying is that evil people hire evil people to hurt other people. Right? Is this a suggestion?

Im not sure you understood what I was saying,but thats OK.
I was saying people are more dangerous then devils,people kill people,the devils dont but do entice people to do so.
You always hear somebody talking about killing somebody because he had a rush to do so,he enjoyed doing so,only to feel guilty right afterwards.Devils can bring up certain feelings in us to want to do certain things for example to kill someone.The person is ultimately at fault for listening to the devils calls.
Yes people blame things like this on the devils,we hear this all the time,they are not making it up,but they are still guilty of the crime more than the devils are.
Think about why you hate certain thing and what you gain from it.
Devils do attack us all the time,by whispering to us to do bad things.
You might not believe in them but they believe in you.
People who get weak mentally,people who distance them self from God,are easy to control by the devils,they can be manipulated to kill oneself or others.This happens often,we hear it in he news all the time.
Drugs can alter our awareness of reality,that impair our judgment,for instance, Alcohol,LSD,Prozac,Pot,Meth,etc. makes us just that much more vulnerable.
It gets much harder for us to make the right judgments,it can go as far to be totally controlled,and not remembering what we done just a little while ago.
Mind control is nothing new,its ancient,is just thats being done little different now,we could say its technologically enhanced.
Voices dont just magically come into somebodys head,not some random crazy interference will make sounds like somebody is talking to you,is nonsense.You can rule out magnetic fields.

Devils might know you emotionally, but, as I said, I don't give the devil his due. You seem to have a very personal relationship with the devils. Know all about those devils, don't you? You really believe the devil/satan/Lucifer exists, don't you? Did THEY put these demons inside of you?
You should,because not knowing something makes you weaker.Its something devils count on.
Im a fully aware of the devils,they are the root of all evil.
It would be ignorant and stupid to disbelieve in them, they are real.
The devil is our most ardent enemy,and we should treat him as such.
I dont know what to say to the last part of what you said above.You sound like you dont believe in devils,yet I heard you talk about people selling there souls to them.So what is it?.
By the way tell me why is it that you heard voices in your head?Whats your explanation other than I dont know?People have been hearing voices for ages, is not like Bono is talking to you with his iPhone,since he put that super advanced chip into your head(Im sorry for the bad joke,Im just trying to make a point).It is not technologically related.Technology can be used to get into our brains and block certain areas of the brain that is crucial to our judgment.
Im not sure why you are making fun of me when Im talking to you nicely.Im not making fun of you.Im just trying to help you understand these things,things which are still hunting you.If you dont believe in what Im saying,thats all good,you can say so.
Im fully aware that most people dont believe neither,in fact my brother is one of those people.I dont want to prove anything to you,I cant,you have to understand things for yourself.
Im not than one clamming of hearing voices in my head.

Humans have the ability to mind control. Don't be foolish and continue to blame some DEVIL.
There is truth to that,but its the devils who are masters at messing with our minds,they are the once teaching people all the tricks.
Im blaming the people obviously, but they are the party of the devil,they are his followers,they are his slaves,is the devils system to do all kind of evil things.Its the devil system to makes us fear,isnt that what evil people like to do.
The devils system is always obvious.

b]Evil humans are responsible for their actions, not the devil as their aid.[/b]
True humans are responsible for whatever we do,in the end we make that choice,the devils only have the power to entice us.They do have more power over there real followers,who fear them instead of God.
By the way I think I should say something who or what,the devils are.
Nothing really mysterious.
In this World there is us and than there are the Jinns,which is an Arabic name for the invisible creatures that live amongst us.
They are born and they die just like we do,they do live longer lives than we do.
They have families, they have wars,they have free will,meaning they can choose between good or evil.Some of them do believe in God,those are believers and are good creatures.They do not mess with people nor try to distract us away from God.
Those who do not believe in God,we call the devils.
They can see and hear us while we cant see them,you could say they are in a World parallel to ours,and they can appear to us
in certain shapes.
The disbelieving humans and the devils are one party they are enemies of God.
There is no Aliens,Ghosts,or whatever.Its all the devils messing with the ignorant masses.
Lucifer,Satan,The Devil,is there leader.

Peace BlueAngel,
Praise be to God Lord of the Universe.

roscoe
07-17-2007, 01:17 PM
Konig has hit upon an important point; responsibility for our actions. In this day and age, MK technology has progressed to such a point that one can be programmed(forced) to do something against his will. It is ultimatly up to God to determine our liability for these types of actions.

A couple hundred years ago the Jesuit order conceived something called philosophical sin. In other words something that is technically a sin, but is none the less pardonable because the perpetrator was FORCED to commit same. The Jesuits were thus the first to conceive that there is something called mind control.

This is where the Jesuits alleged reputation for laxity comes from; it's an undeserved reproach made by uncharitable minds. MK exists bigtime and while I believe Blue Angel to be off base on more than a few things, she most likely is a true MK survivor.

BlueAngel
07-17-2007, 01:53 PM
roscoe wrote:
Konig has hit upon an important point; responsibility for our actions. In this day and age, MK technology has progressed to such a point that one can be programmed(forced) to do something against his will. It is ultimatly up to God to determine our liability for these types of actions.

A couple hundred years ago the Jesuit order conceived something called philosophical sin. In other words something that is technically a sin, but is none the less pardonable because the perpetrator was FORCED to commit same. The Jesuits were thus the first to conceive that there is something called mind control.

This is where the Jesuits alleged reputation for laxity comes from; it's an undeserved reproach made by uncharitable minds. MK exists bigtime and while I believe Blue Angel to be off base on more than a few things, she most likely is a true MK survivor.

What makes you the expert, Roscoe, as to whether or not I'm off base or if I'm a true MK survivor? I would be the ONE who possesses that knowledge and not YOU.

I don't remember asking you for your opinion.

Since this thread is about Mind Control within the music industry and my personal experience incarcerated in MKULTRA/Project Monarch, do you have anything to add to that TOPIC?

If you want to discuss devils and Jesuits, please start another thread.

Thank you!

A person who is a victim of MKULTRA/Project Monarch or any type of mind control is not responsible for their actions. Those who possess the technology, the "sadistic pigs," the Satan worshippers are responsible for their actions perpetrated upon innocent children and adults and will be held accountable.

BlueAngel
07-17-2007, 01:57 PM
Konig said:

"True humans are responsible for whatever we do,in the end we make that choice..."

Excuse me, but humans who are incarcerated against their own free will in mind control programs by "sadistic pigs" who worship Satan, are not responsible for whatever they do. Those who perpetrate these acts of violence against them are responsible and they will be held accountable.

Mark my words!

BlueAngel
07-17-2007, 02:15 PM
Oh, yes, that Patti, what a CLASS act.

You've got to be kidding.

Being married to Springsteen does not lend you to that category. In fact, it brings you down to his level.

Anyone who allows their adolescent daughter to wear a t-shirt with the words, "I am a red-headed woman," which is a Springsteen song about their father having oral sex with their mother, is classless.

roscoe
07-17-2007, 02:31 PM
Blue Amgel; take it easy as I am on your side. It's just that you don't(and neither do I) have everything right. The Magisterium of Holy Church is your friend and has the answers.

The agnostic Christopher Marlowe said 'if anybody's right it HAS to be the Catholic Church because ALL THE OTHERS ARE THE BIGGEST PHONYS.

konig19
07-17-2007, 05:09 PM
BlueAngel wrote:
Konig said:

"True humans are responsible for whatever we do,in the end we make that choice..."

Excuse me, but humans who are incarcerated against their own free will in mind control programs by "sadistic pigs" who worship Satan, are not responsible for whatever they do. Those who perpetrate these acts of violence against them are responsible and they will be held accountable.

Mark my words!
True BlueAngel,You are right.
We are not to blame for things we have no control of,for example,if a girl is forced into prostitution against her will,she is not to be blamed.
Peace.
Praise be to God Lord of the Universe.

BlueAngel
07-17-2007, 05:38 PM
Bruce Springsteen said:

"...."Wherever there is great music being made, there is the shadow of Bob Dylan"...

Huh?

Bob Dylan is Bob Dylan, Springsteen is Springsteen. To compare the two is like comparing apples to oranges.

Some of their earlier lyrics, whether written by them or not; whether drugs were used to get the "creative juices flowing," altered states whatever, are similar.

Other than that, their music, their voices, their later lyrics are completely different. Including the themes in their songs. Some familiarity but not much.

To say what Springsteen said is just plain ridiculous.

Yes, Dylan has impacted people with his lyrics, but, then again, he fooled them into thinking he was something he's not.

Was out there for the public to touch. A tactic and then became elusive. SUCH MYSTERY!

Springsteen inducted Dylan into the Hall of Fame.

Dylan steps up to accept the award and says about five words. Oh, yes, and he was wearing some kind of a cape.

Something like, I travel alot, peace, love, happiness and FORGIVENESS.

Who does he want to forgive him?

Who cares!

BlueAngel
07-17-2007, 05:42 PM
roscoe wrote:
Blue Amgel; take it easy as I am on your side. It's just that you don't(and neither do I) have everything right. The Magisterium of Holy Church is your friend and has the answers.

The agnostic Christopher Marlowe said 'if anybody's right it HAS to be the Catholic Church because ALL THE OTHERS ARE THE BIGGEST PHONYS.

I'm not looking for people to be on my side, Roscoe.

Take what easy?

The Holy Church has no answers and is not my friend.

As I stated, I'm not interested in your opinion as to what you think I have right and what you think I don't.

BlueAngel
07-17-2007, 05:53 PM
Brainwashed/mind controlled followers of Springsteen's say things such as this:

Springsteen knows that his live performances are compellingly more superior to whatever tracks he lays down in a studio.

Oh, yes, the enhanced engineering used to alter his voice in the studio isn't superior to his live performances.

Give me a break!

Try listening to some youtube videos of his live performances or recordings of his live shows that the "for one" poster walks around with on her back. The Bruce Springsteen poster child.

How 'bout attending a show or two?

Watching him sing "Dream baby Dream" during the "Devils and Dust" tour was excruciatingly painful to the ears.

Why would someone sing a song that's about ten minutes long with the line "Dream, baby, Dream" repeated ad naseaum?

If you think Patti's voice is grinding during a performance, what would Springsteen's be?

Grating?

BlueAngel
07-17-2007, 06:21 PM
Or, the brainwashed followers of Springsteen say something like this:

Springsteen and Sinatra are not so far apart as they both express their selves in a uniquely American way.

Comparing Springsteen to Sinatra.

You've got to be kidding?

No, you're just brainwashed.

Yes, Springsteen's American songs about "little girls," oral sex, masturbation, ramrodding, and violence.

So, AMERICAN!!!!

roscoe
07-17-2007, 07:35 PM
BAngel- this is a Forum where people exchange ideas and mine have a right to be here. I have never been hostile to you so lighten up. Truth is an act of Grace; someone has brainwashed you into thinking Holy Church is your enemy: this is not so.

All the Popes sincne Pius XII can be proven to be anti-Popes. My personal view is that they have been anti-Popes beginning with Benedict XV in 1914.

Anyone thinking that the Vat II anti-Church is the Catholic Church is being deeply deceived.

BlueAngel
07-17-2007, 09:10 PM
I've talked about songs with disinformation, alter changing triggers, etc. Springsteen's songs are associated with many of these mechanisms.

I've stated that I was programmed to music (tones, etc) and lyrics.

I've talked about suicide programming.

Now, I'll address the "KILL" programming attributed to specific songs.

Delta programming.

The reason, back in the day it was difficult for me to go out is because music is piped in everywhere.

This, to affect a "prisoner of my own home," solitude, isolation, alter changing, etc.

Paul Simon's song, "Still Crazy After all These Years" harbors KILL programming.

I wonder who it is that is Still Crazy After All These Years?

Simon?

BlueAngel
07-17-2007, 09:13 PM
It's Alright Ma (I'm Only Bleeding)
Bob Dylan

Darkness at the break of noon
Shadows even the silver spoon
The handmade blade, the child's balloon
Eclipses both the sun and moon
To understand you know too soon
There is no sense in trying.

Pointed threats, they bluff with scorn
Suicide remarks are torn
From the fool's gold mouthpiece
The hollow horn plays wasted words
Proves to warn
That he not busy being born
Is busy dying.

Temptation's page flies out the door
You follow, find yourself at war
Watch waterfalls of pity roar
You feel to moan but unlike before
You discover
That you'd just be
One more person crying.

So don't fear if you hear
A foreign sound to your ear
It's alright, Ma, I'm only sighing.

As some warn victory, some downfall
Private reasons great or small
Can be seen in the eyes of those that call
To make all that should be killed to crawl
While others say don't hate nothing at all
Except hatred.

Disillusioned words like bullets bark
As human gods aim for their mark
Made everything from toy guns that spark
To flesh-colored Christs that glow in the dark
It's easy to see without looking too far
That not much
Is really sacred.

While preachers preach of evil fates
Teachers teach that knowledge waits
Can lead to hundred-dollar plates
Goodness hides behind its gates
But even the president of the United States
Sometimes must have
To stand naked.

An' though the rules of the road have been lodged
It's only people's games that you got to dodge
And it's alright, Ma, I can make it.

Advertising signs that con you
Into thinking you're the one
That can do what's never been done
That can win what's never been won
Meantime life outside goes on
All around you.

You lose yourself, you reappear
You suddenly find you got nothing to fear
Alone you stand with nobody near
When a trembling distant voice, unclear
Startles your sleeping ears to hear
That somebody thinks
They really found you.

A question in your nerves is lit
Yet you know there is no answer fit to satisfy
Insure you not to quit
To keep it in your mind and not fergit
That it is not he or she or them or it
That you belong to.

Although the masters make the rules
For the wise men and the fools
I got nothing, Ma, to live up to.

For them that must obey authority
That they do not respect in any degree
Who despise their jobs, their destinies
Speak jealously of them that are free
Cultivate their flowers to be
Nothing more than something
They invest in.

While some on principles baptized
To strict party platform ties
Social clubs in drag disguise
Outsiders they can freely criticize
Tell nothing except who to idolize
And then say God bless him.

While one who sings with his tongue on fire
Gargles in the rat race choir
Bent out of shape from society's pliers
Cares not to come up any higher
But rather get you down in the hole
That he's in.

But I mean no harm nor put fault
On anyone that lives in a vault
But it's alright, Ma, if I can't please him.

Old lady judges watch people in pairs
Limited in sex, they dare
To push fake morals, insult and stare
While money doesn't talk, it swears
Obscenity, who really cares Propaganda, all is phony.

While them that defend what they cannot see
With a killer's pride, security
It blows the minds most bitterly
For them that think death's honesty
Won't fall upon them naturally
Life sometimes
Must get lonely.

My eyes collide head-on with stuffed graveyards
False gods, I scuff
At pettiness which plays so rough
Walk upside-down inside handcuffs
Kick my legs to crash it off
Say okay, I have had enough
What else can you show me?

And if my thought-dreams could be seen
They'd probably put my head in a guillotine
But it's alright, Ma, it's life, and life only.

-------------------------------------------

What the heck is this song about?

Lot's of rhyming, but does it make any sense?

BlueAngel
07-17-2007, 09:17 PM
Why does Springsteen (other artists) release unreleased tracks?

Obviously, these songs don't cut it. Don't make it onto CDs.

Just another money-making scheme.

Oh, oh, he's releasing unreleased tracks.

WOW! What a gold mine!

BlueAngel
07-17-2007, 09:21 PM
Look, some of Springsteen's followers accept his wife as part of the band and believe she is talented.

She is, after all, his wife and they accept anything Springsteen wants them to.

What are they going to do, BOO her!?!

That would really make for a great show!

BlueAngel
07-17-2007, 10:51 PM
Roulette Lyrics
Bruce Springsteen

We left the toys out in the yard
I took my wife and kids and left my home unguarded
We packed what we could into the car
No one here knows how it started
Suddenly everything was just so out of control
Now I want some answers, mister, I need to know
I hear all the talk but I don't know what you're sayin'
But I think I got a good idea of the game that you're playin'

Roulette, that's the name
Roulette, that's the game now
Roulette, I don't know what they're sayin'
Roulette, everybody's playin'

I grew up here on this street
Where nothin' moves, just a strange breeze
In a town full of worthless memories
There's a shadow in my backyard
I've got a house full of things that I can't touch
Well all those things won't do me much good now
I was a fireman out at Riker's, I did my job
Mister, I've been cheated, I feel like I've been robbed
I'm the big expendable, my life's just canceled null and void
Well what you gonna do about your new boy

Roulette, you're playin' with my life
Roulette, with my kids and my wife
Roulette, every day the stakes get bigger
Roulette, a different finger on the trigger

Down by the river that talks
The night speaks in searchlights
And shortwave radios squawk
The police patrol the streets
But I've left behind the man I used to be
Everything he believed and all that belonged to me
I tried to find my way out to somewhere where I thought it'd be safe
They stopped me at the roadblock they put up on the interstate
They put me in detention but I broke loose and then I ran
They said they want to ask me a few questions but I think they had other plans
Now I don't know who to trust and I don't know what I can believe
They say they want to help me but with the stuff they keep on sayin'
I think those guys just wanna keep on playin'

Roulette, with my life
Roulette, with my kids and my wife
Roulette, the bullet's in the chamber
Roulette, who's the unlucky stranger
Roulette, surprise, you're dead
Roulette, the gun's to your head
Roulette, the bullet's spinning in the chamber
Roulette, pull the trigger, feel the click

-----------------------------------------------

Another uplifting song by Springsteen. Wonderful imagery. Oh, yes.

He was a fireman at Rikers in this song.

BlueAngel
07-17-2007, 11:18 PM
Ah, Roscoe. This thread isn't about an idea nor is it about exchanging ideas.

Mind control/mind control within the music industry/MKUltra/Project Monarch, the "satanic cult" are facts.

BlueAngel
07-18-2007, 09:01 AM
From the Washingston Post:

NEW WAVE

Against Me!

You love the Boss. The Boss loves you back. It's a blue-collar-punk-rock dream come true, right?

Actually, no, not everyone LOVES THE BOSS and not everyone wants him to love them back. How would that be possible anyway? I mean, for him to LOVE YOU back?

To be fair, it's Springsteen's son who's truly ga-ga over this activist punk troupe -- so much so that he keeps dragging his old man out to see the band in concert. And for good reason: The band's bombastic fourth album, "New Wave," finds Against Me! singer Tom Gabel taking oodles of inspiration from Bruce the polemicist. But Bruce the poet? Not really.

Springsteen's son is GA-GA over an activist punk troupe? Strange word to describe his interest in a band. Ga-Ga?

Check out these lines from "Up the Cuts," a swipe at the music industry's futile war on illegal downloading: "All the buzz is happening in the new digital marketplace / FBI warning printed on the flipside / Under penalty of law, piracy will be prosecuted." Catchy, innit?

Gabel's clunky lyrics ruin this disc, with the irascible singer refusing to parse his sloganeering into something we the people can sing along to. It's a cruel tease, considering the anthemic crescendos his band whips up in the background. Just listen to the chiming bells and driving guitars of the title track -- (and ignore Gabel as he finds "no signs of original thought in the mainstream").

The band sounds even better on the fringes of its comfort zone, with "Stop!" evoking a grittier Franz Ferdinand and "Animal" recalling the early dirges of Danzig. The other tunes, however, feel like high-sheen imitations of late '90s punk acts Dillinger Four and the (Young) Pioneers. Against Me! may have earned a place in the Springsteen family iPod, but those forgotten bands are far more deserving of a place in yours.



DOWNLOAD THESE: "New Wave," "Stop!"



-- Chris Richards

BlueAngel
07-18-2007, 09:17 AM
JON FRIEDMAN'S MEDIA WEB: NBC's Tim Russert Follows His Own Compass

July 18, 2007: 12:41 AM EST

Excerpt:

'The Boss'

According to his NBC bio, Russert "has interviewed every major figure on the American political scene."

Still, he has regrets. Russert wished he could've had Pope John Paul II on " Meet the Press." "I would've asked him about his life as an outspoken religious leader," Russert said, specifically his impact on the fall of Communism and his views about how American Catholics viewed his teachings.

President Bush hasn't appeared on "Meet the Press" since February 2004, Russert noted. He said that he'd ask Bush if he anticipates any change in the administration's Iraq policy. "I don't expect" there would be one, according to Russert.

Can you guess who is his dream "get"?

It's rock and roll star Bruce Springsteen. "I'm very intrigued by him," Russert said. "He has a real understanding of the political dialogue, of faith and life in urban America."

I think Russert's gone over the deep end. Someone must have paid him to say that Springsteen has a real understanding of the political dialogue, of faith and life in urban America. That's not political dialogue. Hey, Russert come have a peek at his lyrics. He seems to have a real understanding about sex with "little girls," too.

Russert already has a connection to "the Boss." "I booked concerts for John Carroll [University] in Cleveland," Russert recalled. "We paid $2,500 to book him on a Tuesday night in February 1974."

Russert has a connection to the BOSS! Oh my goodness, can we touch you?

Aside from the indelible mental snapshot of seeing a brilliant performer 18 months before he made it big, Russert cherishes the memory for a more practical reason: "I made enough money to pay for my second year of law school."

He said he told Springsteen the story once when he ran into him at a New York City restaurant. Springsteen laughed and said, "That sounds like one of my songs."

I bet Russert could woo Springsteen by playing snippets of his tunes to accompany appearances by the candidates: "Glory Days" for Sen. John McCain, " Born to Run" for Sen. Hillary Clinton, "Two Hearts" for John Edwards, "It's Hard to be a Saint in the City" for Mitt Romney, "New York City Serenade" for Rudy Giuliani, "Jungleland" for Mayor Michael Bloomberg and, of course, "I'm on Fire" for Obama.

You think Russert could WOO Springsteen. One man WOOING another. Okay. The mention of some snippets of Springsteen's songs to be played during appearances by candidates, you've got to be kidding, right? Whomever wrote this article has gone over the deep end with Russert. "I'm on Fire" being played during an Obama appearance. Would that mean Springsteen is on fire for Obama or that Obama is on fire for a little girl whose Daddy isn't home?"

If Michael Dukakis, comes on the show, Russert can cue up "Kitty's Back" for the missus.

I asked Russert if he had reached out to Springsteen to request an interview. He shook his head, as if he was unworthy of the meeting. It was reassuring to see that even Tim "No Surrender" Russert, the scourge of Washington, could act a little overwhelmed by someone.

Oh, come on, Russert, reach out! Unworthy of the meeting? What does one have to do to be worthy of a Springsteen meeting/interview? Kiss his feet? Russert is a "No Surrender" scourge of Washington and is overwhelmed by Springsteen. Does he go ga-ga or something?

BlueAngel
07-18-2007, 10:01 AM
Some of the men who write about Springsteen sound a little ga-ga over him.

Infatuated with him.

In love with him.

I suppose they like the tone of his sexual deviant lyrics, his violent songs, and his apparent degradation of women and obsession with "little girls."

Shadow
07-18-2007, 10:15 AM
BlueAngel wrote:
JON FRIEDMAN'S MEDIA WEB: NBC's Tim Russert Follows His Own Compass

July 18, 2007: 12:41 AM EST

Excerpt:

'The Boss'

According to his NBC bio, Russert "has interviewed every major figure on the American political scene."

Still, he has regrets. Russert wished he could've had Pope John Paul II on " Meet the Press." "I would've asked him about his life as an outspoken religious leader," Russert said, specifically his impact on the fall of Communism and his views about how American Catholics viewed his teachings.

President Bush hasn't appeared on "Meet the Press" since February 2004, Russert noted. He said that he'd ask Bush if he anticipates any change in the administration's Iraq policy. "I don't expect" there would be one, according to Russert.

Can you guess who is his dream "get"?

It's rock and roll star Bruce Springsteen. "I'm very intrigued by him," Russert said. "He has a real understanding of the political dialogue, of faith and life in urban America."

I think Russert's gone over the deep end. Someone must have paid him to say that Springsteen has a real understanding of the political dialogue, of faith and life in urban America. That's not political dialogue. Hey, Russert come have a peek at his lyrics. He seems to have a real understanding about sex with "little girls," too.

Russert already has a connection to "the Boss." "I booked concerts for John Carroll [University] in Cleveland," Russert recalled. "We paid $2,500 to book him on a Tuesday night in February 1974."

Russert has a connection to the BOSS! Oh my goodness, can we touch you?

Aside from the indelible mental snapshot of seeing a brilliant performer 18 months before he made it big, Russert cherishes the memory for a more practical reason: "I made enough money to pay for my second year of law school."

He said he told Springsteen the story once when he ran into him at a New York City restaurant. Springsteen laughed and said, "That sounds like one of my songs."

I bet Russert could woo Springsteen by playing snippets of his tunes to accompany appearances by the candidates: "Glory Days" for Sen. John McCain, " Born to Run" for Sen. Hillary Clinton, "Two Hearts" for John Edwards, "It's Hard to be a Saint in the City" for Mitt Romney, "New York City Serenade" for Rudy Giuliani, "Jungleland" for Mayor Michael Bloomberg and, of course, "I'm on Fire" for Obama.

You think Russert could WOO Springsteen. One man WOOING another. Okay. The mention of some snippets of Springsteen's songs to be played during appearances by candidates, you've got to be kidding, right? Whomever wrote this article has gone over the deep end with Russert. "I'm on Fire" being played during an Obama appearance. Would that mean Springsteen is on fire for Obama or that Obama is on fire for a little girl whose Daddy isn't home?"

If Michael Dukakis, comes on the show, Russert can cue up "Kitty's Back" for the missus.

I asked Russert if he had reached out to Springsteen to request an interview. He shook his head, as if he was unworthy of the meeting. It was reassuring to see that even Tim "No Surrender" Russert, the scourge of Washington, could act a little overwhelmed by someone.

Oh, come on, Russert, reach out! Unworthy of the meeting? What does one have to do to be worthy of a Springsteen meeting/interview? Kiss his feet? Russert is a "No Surrender" scourge of Washington and is overwhelmed by Springsteen. Does he go ga-ga or something?

BlueAngel
07-18-2007, 04:22 PM
I think there are a whole lot of "disinformation" agents working inside the Springsteen camp.

Creating those mysteries!

What are they COVERING UP?

The production of the new CD soon to be released has now been reported to have been recorded in MOSTLY one take with Springsteen and the entire E Street Band present simultaneously.

ONE TAKE! Amazing. They are genuises, I would think.

Or, does that label belong to the mixers and sound engineers.

No more is it that specific band members came in to do their part. They were all there together.

Funny, I don't remember any reporting of seeing other E Street Band members in Atlanta at the same time these "sightings" of Springsteen were mentioned. It's almost as if people are spotting a UFO or something. An anamoly. They refer to it as a "Bruce sighting."

If this is true than shouldn't the CD be attributed to Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band?

Not that a give a hoot!

BlueAngel
07-18-2007, 04:26 PM
Why is it that the names of Doc Holiday and Gary Tallent seem so familiar to me?

And, those short shorts that Springsteen use to wear with his buttocks hanging out.

YUCK!

BlueAngel
07-18-2007, 05:32 PM
Reporting:

Do most singers sing with their eyes closed?

Just curious. Cause Springsteen does this more than not.

I also read that he uses a monitor for lyrics.

Anyway, just watched him perform "Tunnel of Love" on youtube.

Lethal song. Might be the "cuddle up little darlin', cuddle up little dove" that is the trigger.

Found myself in a weird state for a bit. The "suicide" command was attempted with DO IT!!

BlueAngel
07-18-2007, 05:34 PM
I'll have to say that the "weird state" does not always associate itself with "suicide or kill programming."

I believe in the past, I was taught/learned how to "block" this mechanism.

So, after the "altered state" has lifted; depression also set in after hearing this song sometime later, it's obvious that the ultimate agenda was the "suicide or kill" programming.

The "asset" which I possessed back in the day and now was to always keep my core front and center.

BlueAngel
07-18-2007, 05:41 PM
Yes, continue sitting on the edge of your seat waiting for the release of Springsteen's new CD. I mean, what else could be more important in life.

The man, his music. WOW!! What a role model for his children.

Thankfully, there will never be another "Born to Run."

That song should be retired.

"Baby this town rips the bones from your back. It's a death trap, a suicide rap."

"We gotta get out while we're young."

Another uplifting song delivered by Springsteen.

Thank GOD I got out while I was young and he's still TRAPPED.

In Peace,
Wendy

BlueAngel
07-18-2007, 05:42 PM
Oops. Was that a Freudian slip?

BlueAngel
07-18-2007, 08:34 PM
Supporting the troops, those who were forced into harm's way not of their own choosing; based solely on lies to further the NWO agenda does not represent supporting Bush; the Shadow Government, the rogue CIA; the Illuminati, the NWO.

To say this is why Springsteen does not involve himself with this cause is an excuse.

He does not involve himself with supporting the troops because he is too busy supporting the "musical industrial complex," an arm of the NWO agenda.

That is where his convictions lie as well as to Satan.

He said so himself!

BlueAngel
07-18-2007, 09:24 PM
LONDON (AFP) - Former Beatle Sir Paul McCartney and his estranged wife Heather Mills are not close in terms of negotiations for a settlement in their messy divorce, The Times reported on Thursday.

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McCartney, 65, and 39-year-old former model Heather Mills are currently locked in a High Court divorce battle which is also being played out across the pages of Britain's newspapers.

McCartney and Mills are both using the same divorce lawyers used by Prince Charles and the late Princess Diana, Fiona Shackleton and Anthony Julius.

"It could well go to trial because they are both quite stubborn," an unidentified lawyer was quoted as saying by The Times.

The paper said, without citing its sources, that McCartney had offered 20 million pounds (29.7 million euros, 41 million dollars) to Mills as a settlement, with Mills replying that she will accept a sum of 50 million pounds.

The couple have a three-year-old daughter, Beatrice.

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Come on, Heather, 41 million dollars isn't more than enough?

Hey, McCartney has 41 million dollars to settle with his ex-wife with plenty left over?

Why wasn't he on the Forbes list?

Or, was he? Don't remember seeing him there. Seems like enough money to at least get you a spot.

Spread the wealth, Paul.

Oh, I forgot, "cult" money stays with the cult.

Heather should be careful!

BlueAngel
07-18-2007, 10:39 PM
When a fan says that they are bursting with pride to be a fan of such great musicians; that all their worries are gone when paging through the issue of a particular magazine and all negativity dispersed.

Well, you gotta wonder what "magic carpet" ride they're on!

WOW!! Talk about psychological operations coming out of the music industry in the 60's, some of these fans display the outcome of the tricks of the trade targeted at them during the cultural revolution.

Whisked away into the musician's world.

No longer a part of society.

So, we now understand why music plays such an important role for those who "program" our youth.

BlueAngel
07-19-2007, 08:04 AM
Okay, there are golddiggers and there are golddiggers.

Do I think Heather Mills is a golddigger to the point that she wouldn't settle amicably with McCartney for 41 million dollars.

Her attorneys have upped the anti to 50 million.

Why?

41 million dollars!!

I mean, come on.

What does Heather have on McCartney?

She did accuse him of some sort of abuse at one point.

Whether this was verified or not, I don't know.

But, 41 million dollars isn't enough to buy her silence?

BlueAngel
07-19-2007, 08:06 AM
Paul McCartney has 50 million dollars plus?

Or, is this Illuminati money that she is being offered?

BlueAngel
07-19-2007, 05:47 PM
Rumble Doll
Talk to Me Like the Rain

Written by: Patti Scialfa

Guitars: Mike Campbell, Tim Pierce, Bruce Springsteen
Keyboards: Bruce Springsteen
Drums & Percussion: Jeff Porcaro

The night is falling
Under the vesper bells lonely chime
And I ain't nobody's valentine
But I ain't sorry for wanting the things
That you cannot give
And if you want me to walk away
Give me something I can walk away with
Talk to me like the rain baby
Talk to me like the rain
And I will lie here and listen

All of those promises
They're held like tender dreams
Inside our hands and they're all
Just waiting there for our command
Now I don't want to talk to no one darlin'
I don't want the sun to shine
I'll just lie inside this darkness baby
Until you are mine
Talk to me like the rain baby
Talk to me like the rain
And I will lie here and listen

Yesterdays empires they are all vanishing
And without you those new worlds darlin'
They don't mean a thing
Talk to me like the rain baby
Talk to me like the rain
Talk to me like the rain darlin'
Talk to me like the rain
And I will lie here and listen

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I would assume Scailfa's talking to Springsteen, her husband.

If not, who then does this song address?

She's married to him, right? So, why then the verse:

"I'll just lie inside this darkness baby
Until you are mine"

Oh, boy, here we go with the DARKNESS again.

BlueAngel
07-19-2007, 05:53 PM
Rumble Doll
Come Tomorrow

Written by: Patti Scialfa

Guitars: Mike Campbell
Keyboards: Patti Scialfa
Bass Keyboard: Cliff Carver
Drums & Percussion: Jeff Porcaro

From the first time that I saw you
I wanted nothing but to make you mine
Now there's this girl with milk white hands
And on her finger your wedding band shines
Still you tempt me with your kisses
Still you tempt me with your charm
Ain't gonna struggle no more with this
Tonight I'm gonna lie down in your arms
And all my fear and all my sorrow
It will disappear
I'll do the right thing come tomorrow
But tonight I'm gonna stay right here
I'm gonna stay right here

Now me I'm just a lonely girl
And I know baby you're a lonely man
And I may never mean more to you
Than a sin that lied waiting in your hands
Still I tempt you with my kisses
Still I tempt you with my charm
Ain't gonna ask but one thing of you
Forgive me darling and I'll forgive you - well
All my fear and all my sorrow
It will disappear
I'll do the right thing come tomorrow
But tonight I'm gonna stay right here
I'm gonna stay right here

Come tomorrow don't you worry baby
Ain't gonna turn the blame on you
Come tomorrow ain't nobody gonna
Make me walk in shame - for loving you
I ain't got no diamonds on my fingers
Ain't got no gold baby in my hands
I know this world don't owe me nothing
So tonight I'm going to take baby what I can
All my fear and all my sorrow
It will disappear
I'll do the right thing come tomorrow
But tonight I'm gonna stay right here
I'm gonna stay right here

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She's married to Springsteen, right?

But, on another woman's milk white hand his wedding band shines.

I don't get it.

Do you?

Oh, here we go. Fear and sorrow.

She's a sin that lied waiting in his hands.

Tempted him with her kisses.

He tempted her with his charm.

They're both lonely.

Same ole' same ole'

BlueAngel
07-19-2007, 05:57 PM
Rumble Doll
As Long as I (Can Be With You)

Written by: Patti Scialfa

Guitars & Bass: Mike Campbell
Keyboards: Benmont Tench
Drums & Percussion: Zachary Alford

They say there's a light
Through darkness shines
If two hands protect that light
Against the change of time
You can have your gold and silver
Build your kingdoms high
But it's just once of those things baby
That money can't buy
So I don't care where we go baby
I don't care what we do
As long as I can be with you

Now I've been lost
And I've been found
Been lifted up to the gates of heaven
And put back down
I've walked in chains baby
And I've walked free
But I never walk the way that I do
When you walk with me
So I don't care where we go baby
I don't care what we do
As long as I can be with you

Well maybe I'm just a foolish girl
'Cause I always thought the right kiss
Could wash away some sins of the world
Wash away those sins baby and go walkin' free
'Cause that's just how I feel darlin'
When you walk with me
So I don't care where we go baby
I don't care what we do
As long as I can be with you
As long as I can be with you

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Oh, boy, she's walked in chains and she's walked free.

She thought the right kiss could wash away some sins of the world. Wash away those sins baby and go walkin' free.

BlueAngel
07-19-2007, 06:01 PM
Rumble Doll
Big Black Heaven

Written by: Patti Scialfa

Lead Guitars: Bruce Springsteen
Rhythm Guitars: Mike Campbell
Keyboards: Bruce Springsteen
Drums: Gary Mallabar
Percussion: Bobbye Hall

You promised me there'd be no denials
When I was weak under your spell
When I feel thirsty you would not let me
Take water from your well
Well big black road
Big black river
Big black heaven in the sky above
I need someone I can talk to
I need someone I can love

So I went down to that valley
To a boy that I once knew
And he looked at me so tender
Oh baby like you used to do
Well big black road
Big black river
Big black heaven in the sky above
I need someone I can talk to
I need someone I can love

So I crossed that river of temptation
And I lay down in that young boys arms
And there I claimed my destination
Through this one last unforgiving harm
Well big black road
Big black river
Big black heaven in the sky above
I need someone I can talk to
I need someone I can love

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She was weak under his SPELL.

Springsteen's spell?

She was thirsty but he would not let her take the water from his well.

She needed someone she could love.

I thought she was married to Springsteen?

She went down to that VALLEY to a BOY she once knew. A BOY! Not a man.

She crossed the river of temptation and lay down in that young boy's arms.

She claimed her destination through this one last unforgiving HARM.

WOW!!

Speaks volumes.

Disgusting!

BlueAngel
07-19-2007, 06:31 PM
Verses from Patti Scailfa's
Rumble Doll
Big Black Heaven

So I went down to that valley
To a boy that I once knew
And he looked at me so tender
Oh baby like you used to do
I need someone I can talk to
I need someone I can love

So I crossed that river of temptation
And I lay down in that young boys arms
And there I claimed my destination
Through this one last unforgiving harm
I need someone I can talk to
I need someone

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Patti lay down in that YOUNG BOY's ARMS and there she claimed her destination through this one last unforgiving harm!!!

Like I said, disgusting.

Springsteen and Scailfa have three children.

GOD help them.

BlueAngel
07-19-2007, 06:34 PM
Talk about CONFESSIONAL songs. Springsteen and Scailfa and many other musicians certainly tell us what they're all about.

BlueAngel
07-19-2007, 06:40 PM
The timeline:

June 1984 - Patti hired as backup vocalist for the Born in the USA tour.

October 1984 - Bruce met Julianne Phillips.

May 1985 - Bruce married Julianne.

January 1988 - Rock & Roll Hall of Fame ceremonies. According to Brucebase, it was the last time Bruce and Julianne were seen together.

February 1988 - TOL tour began.

June 1988 - Bruce and Patti photographed together in Italy.

August 1988 - Julianne filed for divorce

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Don't blame her.

How much did Springsteen pay Julianne for her silence?

I truly wish there weren't so many sell-outs.

Heather Mills?

BlueAngel
07-19-2007, 07:32 PM
After watching Wade (also known as CRT on the Official site. Chick, Carmine, former boxer, spent time in jail) and some of the other SICK posters at Springsteen's unofficial site (yes, the same players from his OFFICIAL SITE) converse with an imaginery PRETTY KITTY CAT in the PW (Political World) cafe; pose questions to it and whose name is FIGMENT; referred to as Figgy, there can only be two explanations and I would suggest it was both:

(1) They are as sick as I described them in the past and present; delusional, psychopathic; schizophrenic; mind controllers;

and

(2) They're attempting to "call out" an alter I may have possessed back in the day, "cat alter," (BETA) by the name of FIGMENT (Figgy).

I also may have possessed an alter (alpha) by the name of Paddy (Paddy was a poster on the official and unofficial site, boxer as well). Twinning!

Could have been a Fred, too, as they would sometimes post a comment, "Fred?"

And/or Patti (female). Springsteen's wife and I bear a resemblance. Twinning!

Doubles! This is not uncommon in their world for many reasons/purposes.

I wouldn't be surprised if Springsteen had a double.

What's Landau look like?

BlueAngel
07-19-2007, 07:41 PM
I do have a double. Used for discrediting purposes when I was young and when I awoke shortly after 911.

Dopplegangers!

BlueAngel
07-19-2007, 08:07 PM
I'd say they're a bunch of drunks just like I did in the past!

One poster (MadMel) says she's been sober for 20 years, but a few weeks ago posted a comment in another area about drink she had.

Liars??, too.

BlueAngel
07-19-2007, 08:16 PM
I wonder if MANDY was an alter?

There was a thread posted about Mandy Moore that made absolutely no sense; as per usual.

And, after my post about WADE talking to an imaginery PRETTY KITTY cat above, he made a comment on another thread (not the Mandy Moore thread) that said, "knock it the f*ck off with that fibbing, Mandy."

See, I never let any of the alters they created take hold.

That posed a major problem for them.

BlueAngel
07-19-2007, 08:19 PM
I was told while I was on Springsteen's official site about a few of my many alters.

I mean, they had to refresh my memory.

As I've stated, I fought to never allow my CORE to become a SHADOW.

I left them all behind. Never let them have control. Never acknowledged them.

This, the reason I was able to conduct myself as an OPERATIVE.

Dianna and Fantasia were two of the alters that they mentioned.

In Peace,
Wendy

BlueAngel
07-19-2007, 08:20 PM
OOps! Another Freudian slip!

BlueAngel
07-19-2007, 08:21 PM
Yes, 2Hearts, if your cat lies on her back and cries, she's most likely a DRAMA QUEEN!

redrat11
07-19-2007, 08:26 PM
Is Al Wilson part of the EVIL music industrial complex?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4pOF-AopkY


How bout Barry White?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXvHRnGe940

BlueAngel
07-19-2007, 09:26 PM
I don't have the answer to that.

But, if I'm going to coin a phrase here, I'll have to call on the GOOD DOCTOR for his grammatical expertise.

Would it be:

"Music Industrial Complex"

or

"Musical Industrial Complex"

Oh, Henry?