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EireEngineer
01-09-2010, 10:22 PM
good luck holding of the frequencies with that ;)
If you build it air tight the way you are supposed to, then the suppression is independent of frequency.

By the way, hows that ban coming along? Im still here. See you next tuesday.

Truthbetold
01-10-2010, 05:39 AM
If you build it air tight the way you are supposed to, then the suppression is independent of frequency.

By the way, hows that ban coming along? Im still here. See you next tuesday.


It cannot hold of the earths magnetic field or any other extremely low freqs, so you can only shield of high harmfull freqencies:)

EireEngineer
01-10-2010, 10:50 AM
It cannot hold of the earths magnetic field or any other extremely low freqs, so you can only shield of high harmfull freqencies:)
Where are you from? Your English is pretty good.

Truthbetold
01-10-2010, 11:47 AM
Holland, and thanks for the compliment ;)

Most stuff on the internet is in english in my studybooks are 2 so

EireEngineer
01-11-2010, 11:43 AM
Ahhh.....So that's why they call him "The Boss"! :D

EireEngineer
01-11-2010, 08:24 PM
Im sure there is. Its in his book. Make sure you say "Hi" to Clarence for me the next time y'all get together for a ho-down. Sorry, I meant:D a hoedown.

EireEngineer
01-13-2010, 12:07 AM
Say what?
I figured that since you have such a close relationship to Bruce Springsteen, that you would surely know who Clarence was? My mistake, I should have known better.

Oh, and he got the name "The Boss" because it was his job to divide the cash up when they were still a gig band.

Truthbetold
01-13-2010, 03:03 AM
I'm a little bit in the dark here... who was/is Clarence one of your alters of the past, BA?

Truthbetold
01-13-2010, 08:47 AM
Oh, please.

Yeah.

Clarence, is one of my alters of the past.

Try GOOGLING the "E Street Band."

I don't have time for your nonsense.


no need to get so sarcastic, I never listened to bruce springsteen or the E street band. Well before my time...

Truthbetold
01-13-2010, 11:37 AM
because?

EireEngineer
01-13-2010, 06:00 PM
I don't have a close relationship to Springsteen and it is very odd that you would think that I did.

I didn't imply that I was unaware of who Clarence was.

I asked you to explain your comment about in "his" book and say "hi" to Clarence the next time you get together for a hoedown.

But, as per usual, you are again dodging the original question only to answer with something that is unrelated.

Seems to be your MO.

YAWN!

I'm aware of the back-story as to how Springsteen acquired the handle, "The Boss."

You're not "The Boss" of me and you never will be.
You brought it on yourself, saying that Springsteen was your "handler", whatever that means. In the espionage arena, Handler refers to someone in direct control of an asset, and that implies a close relationship.
And it was quite obvious who the "his" in "his book" was, but you do love to confuse the topic. See you next tuesday. lol

Truthbetold
01-14-2010, 04:06 AM
because I don't have alters from the past.

Pardon the sarcasm.
Im sorry, didnt mean to upset you :)

EireEngineer
01-14-2010, 09:28 PM
Then I think you are misusing the term handler. We will have to come up with a better term for it.

Truthbetold
01-16-2010, 04:14 AM
Then I think you are misusing the term handler. We will have to come up with a better term for it.

is it fun turning words around?

EireEngineer
01-16-2010, 10:15 PM
It seems to be for some people. Next she will claim she never used the term.:D

Truthbetold
01-17-2010, 08:23 AM
It seems to be for some people. Next she will claim she never used the term.:D

you may either just be ignorant or not worthy to walk this earth

Truthbetold
01-17-2010, 09:20 AM
No he is either ignorant, for knowing what this topic is about and still turning words around.

Or he is one of the people on the first page under another pseudonym, and he knows full well what's he is doing, therefore making this world a sad place instead of a better place, making him not worth his time here.

This is just my point of view, you or he may look totally different at it :)

EireEngineer
01-17-2010, 09:53 AM
So when sombody says that "Bruce Springsteen was my handler", what does that imply or mean to you?

Truthbetold
01-17-2010, 10:14 AM
oke, i know enough

EireEngineer
01-19-2010, 03:20 PM
So you are in fact saying that Bruce Springsteen, or others, were controlling your actions trough some means, presumably through his music? Out of curiosity.....how exactly?

Deffmaybe
01-24-2010, 12:43 AM
I cant believe this thread has so many pages!!

Why is everyone humoring this head case? Come on man!!

I thought id come on here and read some educated conversations about conspiracy theories, not that this guy was bumming MJ God rest his soul

Your story is fairytale mate. I know it and you know it

This is beyond ludicrous

YOUR MENTAL!!!!!!

EireEngineer
01-28-2010, 10:19 PM
Anyone know if there are any "restraining orders" against Bruce Springsteen?
I thought he was your "handler"? Shouldnt you know?:p

EireEngineer
01-28-2010, 10:21 PM
High pitched frequency in left ear continues with occassional zapping.

Affecting several organs.

This is a form of torture and YOU will be held accountable for the crimes you perpetrated upon me and countless others; past and present.
Whats this "zapping" you are referring to? Pennys in sockets will do that to you every time!

Truthbetold
01-29-2010, 12:41 AM
BA, this site might interest you.

A Current US Program Of Involuntary Human Experimentation (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_mindcon17.htm)
(maybe they shed some more light on whats happening)

EireEngineer
01-29-2010, 11:57 PM
Kind of funny that the very first thing on that site is nonsense about chemtrails, but I will have a look.

Truthbetold
01-30-2010, 05:17 AM
I'd like to start a thread titled, "Human Experimentation," and provide the link and text in that thread that truthbetold supplied, but I'm having a hard time deciding under which forum it belongs.

Any suggestions?

science would be most suited I think, science can build up things, but can also have a very dark side when there is moral ethics applied.

EireEngineer
01-31-2010, 01:59 AM
First of all, female is a sex, not a species no matter what you hear at your NAG, opps I meant NOW, meetings.

And no, I am very far from being a misogynist, however I will admit to not being a fan of ignorant, petty numbskulls.

EireEngineer
01-31-2010, 06:28 PM
So how exactly was Bruce your handler? Oh right, you probably got turned on listening to his music, and because of extensive LSD usage, concocted this story to make yourself feel better.

EireEngineer
02-01-2010, 01:10 AM
So scared. Since you seem to be following me to every post I make, it looks like you are the troll.

Truthbetold
02-02-2010, 08:22 AM
I'm suprised you endured him for so long :)

Lovie
02-06-2010, 11:53 PM
So did you know springsteen personally?

Truthbetold
02-07-2010, 06:44 AM
read back and refrain from asking questions and statements that make no sense (here and in other topics)

Lovie
02-07-2010, 10:16 AM
I was just asking a question..I read most of the thread..
why should I refrain from asking questions that DO clearly apply.
Blue angel is going on and on about springsteen..I just wanted to know if she had even met him..
Gees whats with the aggro?
I don't know what she means by handler.

Truthbetold
02-08-2010, 01:02 AM
since your kinda aggressive towards people that are trying to help you wont have to, I really dont care anymore

jane doe
02-08-2010, 06:34 PM
worth repeating. lovely, Blue.

Oh, Joe,

You in my arms
me in your embrace
telling you everything
and you standing in one place

Crying and sobbing about what they did
you picking me up and helping me to live

showing me sunshine when I saw nothing but rain
showing me hope when I felt nothing put pain

picking me up when I couldn't walk
making me speak when I couldn't talk

you were my light
when I could only see
the torture in a cell

of a small body that was once me

derpived and degraded
starved and curled up

cold and lying naked
unable to sip from a cup

weak and dying
without any strength

a shell of myself in a dark and rank place

memories of my childhood
abuse I cannot explain

tortured, experimented on and a life full of pain

but, there you were
you showed me love
you helped me to rise to rise above

you gave me everything
that I never thought I would have

a life beyond them
a life full of US
a marriage, three children
and most of all trust

I love you, Joe.

Yours truly,
BlueAngel

Truthbetold
02-09-2010, 04:15 AM
One more comment.

Since the inception of CC, there exists on this forum a very large population of members whose only agenda on this site is to post disinformation; cause interference; harrass and attempt to trigger/alter me and/or or expect me to agree with every ridiculous conspiracy they post in an effort to discredit me.

I will say it again.

I cannot be discredited.

The evidence speaks for itself.

People who supposedly were helping me in the past when a victim of MKULTRA/Project Monarch and in the not so distant past when on Springsteen's site turned out to be perpetrators, so, yes, I am aggressive.

It saved my life from the CULT when I was a child and assisted me in maintaining my psychological, mental, and emotional state of mind when I feel back into Springsteen's hands and the other mind controllers on his site and to avert the PSYCHOTIC BREAK the perpetrators so desire, but will never attain.

Being agressive has also helped me to keep control of my own mind.

Past and present.

So, yes, I am aggressive and I consider it an asset.

And you have every right to be, The wrongly quoted message of Prunerman seemed a bit odd I know.

And yes, I'm worried the video is a new way to brainwash the Monarchslaves still under control.
I recently read this page

WIZARD OF OZ and the ILLUMINATI MIND CONTROL (http://www.apfn.org/apfn/oz.htm)

and the video seemed just a little to bit to much like a script written after everything explained there.

jane doe
02-09-2010, 05:11 AM
BlueAngel, I hope your experience is over with the Springsteen site. Going back to an abusive relationship is unhealthy. Rereading your poem and learniing about your internet abuse..isn't that too much power you give your husband over yourself?

Lovie
02-09-2010, 08:28 PM
what do you mean by handler ?
Is it common for handlers and mind control victims not to know each other?

Okay after doing some research on MC..the stories that these people tell seem a bit unbelievable.
Im sorry for saying you were a vicious bitch BA.
I just don't know, part of me wants to believe its true and part of me wants to believe it's not true.

Lovie
02-13-2010, 03:13 PM
I'm going to explain this one last time.

A HANDLER/CONTROLLER of a mind control victim is able to alter the state of mind of their SLAVE through the use of codes, keys, commands/triggers, etc.

Through the use of these codes, keys, commands/triggers, etc., the handler/controller is able to access all five levels of programming of their SLAVE; therefore affecting the state of mind of their victim psychologically, emotionally and mentally.

In this way, the HANDLER is also able to retrieve alters that are used for various purposes; illegal and otherwise.

In this respect, an unhealthy, abusive interaction exists between SLAVE and OWNER(s) and HANDLER/CONTROLLER(s), because POWER and CONTROL belongs to the HANDLER(s) as the victim is void of free will.

Hence, the words MIND CONTROL.

Thanks for clearing that up.
I was reading from a website here Mind Control-The Ultimate Terror (http://www.educate-yourself.org/mc/)
about how the cell phone towers aren't really towers. but rather mind control towers.
how do we protect ourselves from mind control?

upagainstit
02-17-2010, 11:09 AM
Read to page 49 so far of your thread.
Where I'm making this comment from.

Always thought the way the lyrics of songs were written,
had to do with the "audience" the music world was catering to.

What you go on about in your thread, puts it in a different light.
The light you put it in, is quite "believable".
Never noticed of my own and no doubt never would have.

You mention that these "popular stars" are from having been
in the same boat as yourself and others.

In general you appear to understand thier plight.

It's obvious, however, that you are singling one out in particular.
You have no place in your understanding for this person, unlike the others.

You say it's because of how you see him in particular, in relation to you.

These others would also be seen in relation, in particular, to other victims.
Yet you "vent" yourself at this one person, and "somewhat side" with
these others, like you see thier plight in what has gone on.

You seem to be immersed in yourself with this one person in particular
from appears to be "altering" states of mind.
Obviously you want to hang on to your thoughts in such direction.

So far, in particular, I'm saying: you are fixated on this one person,
from your victimised stance, not having this same view of the others,
even though there would be someone else there that was victimised.
(seeing them, as yourself, as all in the same boat)

upagainstit
02-17-2010, 05:01 PM
At the end of page 74 in this thread now.

You mention periodically that you are "remembering" your past,
to do with what has gone on with you.

I'm wondering, because of your past not known to you, prior to later on:
if your day to day life was full of blackouts OR
did you have false memories, of life as you knew it,
to take the place of your hidden memories
of what was going on with you?

jane doe
02-17-2010, 05:18 PM
At the end of page 74 in this thread now.

You mention periodically that you are "remembering" your past,
to do with what has gone on with you.



past lives??

upagainstit
02-17-2010, 05:53 PM
past lives??

The past lives that you are questioning
would be the years gone by
from earlier years of late
that BA is now remembering.

upagainstit
02-18-2010, 12:45 AM
Who would be the someone else there that you say was victimized?

Sorry, been busy making my way through this thread.
Didn't overlook your question though.

Thought it would be evident in the first post I made here.
Was thinking you would re-read it, 'till you would know.

The others that it refers to would be, who-ever else was a victim.
Meaning, is not taken that you were the only one,
that "fell" into their hands and were victimised by them.

Was expecting you to realize it in the post after you asked.
Sorry.
on page 103 now

upagainstit
02-18-2010, 01:01 AM
As I said:

I have made it very clear in this thread what happened to me when I was a child and a victim of MKULTRA/Project Monarch and used in the music industry as a sex slave and for other criminal activities all courtesy of the CIA.

I don't need anyone, specifically, Jane Doe, a self-pronounced psychic, suggesting that she or anyone else has an alternative theory as to what occurred in my young life and I don't need YOU and Jane Doe engaging in conversation amongst one another on this thread as to what you believe I experienced.

I know what happened to me.

If you don't have anything of value to add to this thread regarding mind control, I suggest that you refrain from posting on it.

Thanking you in advance for your cooperation,
BA

You sound like Jane Doe has already made an impression on you. I don't know her any.

Jane Doe directed the question to me. So, I answered it.

You obviously are "out of my league" with your forum presence. I am well behind one of your stature.

However, when one poster directs a question to another poster, no matter whos' thread it's in, they converse.

You could very well be out of place
responding to Jane Doe's post.

upagainstit
02-18-2010, 04:46 AM
This ? was yours not mine. Could be my post wasn't outright clear AND
I possibly didn't read your ? quite right:

BA asked "who is the someone else"?
Someone else = victim/victims (not known by name)
of these other handlers/controllers.
(your question not mine)

Someone else also = "each" of the victims, not "all" lumped together.

I asked about blackouts because:
while you were at the mercy of the handlers/controllers
"the amount of time" that was taken up during your ordeal
would have to be taken out from ---- your day to day life.

Was wondering if there were periods of "missing time",
as you proceeded with your life.
(because of your recalling it having happened, seemingly later in life)


BA: Jane Doe hasn't made an impression on me or anyone else.
Well, maybe you.

You appear to be picking at words here AND insinuating.

BA: Unless you have something pertinent to add to the topic of
mind control, kindly refrain from engaging in useless chatter with
Jane Doe or anyone else on this thread or any thread on this forum.

Have encountered your posts all over this forum and you, notice-ably,
do not follow your own advice.
It must have been "useless" chatter, only, in your eyes AND we have
nothing going on between us.

BA: What happened to me....and I'm not in need of any anonymous
posters....asserting they know better than myself.

Never asserted that I know better than you about your experiences.
Posts are subject to the interpreter. Not your "absolute" perogative.

BA: My response to Jane Does' post was not out of place.
You, however, are out of place for insinuating such.

Seemed like forum etiquette to me.



Please refrain from picking posts' apart TO twist around.
No "need" for us to debate this statement.


I am trying to comprehend your experience that you are "pain-stakingly"
being informative about to others.

Thanks for bringing - What happened to you - Out in the open.
I find it to be an "eye-opener".

You started this thread BUT readers of it, will post in it.
Not "outright subject" to your interpretation of these posts.
There ARE lots of posts in threads that appear to be needless.
(mostly we grin and bare it, some liven things up though)

No doubt, upagainstit and Jane Doe, felt their post was uncalled for.
You, BlueAngel, however: your remarks were not in line.
Obviously, not ALL of BlueAngels' remarks, were out of line,
BUT the ones that were, were noticeable.

You will find my contribution to this forum,
in the story of my life, that I tell:
Social Oppression (http://upagainstit-s-o.blogspot.com/)
it's also in the "introduction" section.
Thread is called: Life As I Know It.
Suggestion: go from first to last entry when you get to the blog.

BlueAngels' life experience and mine are not the same.
However, we both found out later, that something was going on with us.
I became aware of "WHAT'S" going on from 1983 to the present.

Warning: BlueAngel writes "a lot" better than I do.

jane doe
02-18-2010, 10:55 AM
BA: Unless you have something pertinent to add to the topic of
mind control, kindly refrain from engaging in useless chatter with
Jane Doe or anyone else on this thread or any thread on this forum.

Expressing, indeed.

upagainstit
02-20-2010, 02:43 AM
Made it through this thread
from the start of it.
Just finished.

Will be back with my review.

upagainstit
02-20-2010, 03:48 AM
IN RETROSPECT:

Almost 500 pages to this thread.

Sped my way through from page 170 and on.

Up until page 170, read each post.

Looking back, reading up to page 100
will give you the "gist" of
BlueAngels' experience.

Pages 100 on to the end almost
is mostly ranting and raving in
quantity and lacks more quality.

Around page 470 the topic of this thread
appears to be gotten away from
even by BlueAngel her/his self.


Warning:

Pages in the 130 to 140 range:
posters mention pictures here
BlueAngel somewhat "jumps" in
saying the matter will be taken care of.
Not once but twice, the pictures are still there.
The second set of pictures,
is probably the ones they are referring to.
However, the first set - shown twice,
one other time earlier than this,
seem to have no basis to be there.

I suspect BlueAngel has more than, one username.

Posts by BlueAngel between 140 to 170:
seem to be on somekind of "tyrade".
I was "alarmed" at that time.
However: fears appear to be unfounded.

Posts around 340 maybe a little earlier and on:
there is increased interaction between
members of this forum and BlueAngel.

Prior to then this thread is heavy on
BlueAngels', something like "documentary".

BlueAngel appears to be tiring of the thread
around December 2008 to January 2009.
From Jan 2009 to today the time
taken up by the thread, speeds up.


OPINION TIME:

BlueAngel states the time of this ordeal,
experience by her/him, started
shortly after the 9/11 of 2001.
When the incident of the
World Trade Center twin towers occurred.

That would date the remembrance of things
by BlueAngel around 2002.

Nearest I could figure BlueAngel was born
around 1956 in June.
The memories start to unfold around 2002.
(maybe a month or two before)

Apparently the 9/11 of 2001 incident,
triggered something in BlueAngel,
real or imagined(?).

Prior to 2002, BlueAngel, seems
to have frequented "rock concerts"
of her "pet peeve".

However: BlueAngel states in the thread,
that the idea, that unfolds here in the thread,
was taken to - more "media" attention means.
The "medias" approached, did not accept.

BlueAngels' life apart from this forum that
is retold "of", by her/him,
ends up - lacking credibility.

The way BlueAngel handles this ordeal,
is "reminiscent" of the way
"psychics" are portrayed on TV and in movies.

Speaking from my own experience, which started in 1983,
such "over-whelmed" by emotionally set back,
when these "memories" are replayed in oneself,
subsides later on: so "continually" taken with
these "experiences" after a while,
no longer "exist" in such way.
In my own case it would go Aug to Oct of 1983
to the early 1990's. Not endlessly on still,
even though this still goes on with me, to this date.

BlueAngel states in this thread, that
what is relayed here to us
was an "idea" that was taken to
more "revealing" far and wide, media.
Seemingly before the memories started around 2002.

Something that was seen by BlueAngel
in the lyrics of songs, that
BlueAngel could go on about.

BlueAngel has gone on and on.....
about it, in this thread.

Lots of quantity, short on "quality".

However, BlueAngels' demeanor, needs to be adrressed.

BlueAngel appears to have "gaslighter", tendencies.
Probably doesn't go to the "possessing" extent.
BlueAngel "wants" to have it on you, in such way, though.

There were some posters that BlueAngel couldn't handle.
Appears to be because, BlueAngel,
couldn't "see" the poster, from his/her post.
The only reason I can see for BlueAngel
being "visibly" upset, by Leonardo.

OVERALL:
BlueAngel, "spun"; a good "yarn".
What was written about, is quite believable.

BlueAngels' experience in life,
past and present,
lacks credibility
directly applicable to BlueAngel.

jane doe
02-20-2010, 05:04 PM
edited :)

Lovie
02-20-2010, 11:16 PM
I think springsteen sucks..I think I may have liked 2 of his songs MAYBE.. If I had a handler, It must be Jeff Lynne..but, I'd probably enjoy that

upagainstit
02-23-2010, 05:30 AM
Firstly, your opinion regarding my victimization in MKULTRA/Project Monarch and what I've written in this thread about it doesn't matter and I have no clue why you think that it would.

Secondly, I am the MODERATOR of this forum and I suggest that you refrain from rendering yet another lame opinion that you suspect I have more than one username or you will no longer have a username on this forum.

Thirdly, your life experience and my life experience have nothing in common.

Not "subject" to your approval BlueAngel.
Another persons' comment is another persons' comment.

Not dependant on a "pat on the head" from you.

A lot of your remarks to people are blatantly off.

Think your comments through in the future BlueAngel.
Off the cuff - doesn't suffice between the ears.

Is no secret you are - clout happy.
Abusive of your "super moderator" status under your username.

Concentrate BlueAngel - you are not a guiding light to me.

jane doe
02-23-2010, 09:22 AM
Kindly leave this forum of your own free will or I'll show you the door.

I apologize for posting on your thread, but I don't have a personal message option. Can you explain why? I've never attacked you, criticized you or broken any forum rules. I'll even edit this post if you like. :)

upagainstit
02-23-2010, 09:41 AM
I apologize for posting on your thread, but I don't have a personal message option. Can you explain why? I've never attacked you, criticized you or broken any forum rules. I'll even edit this post if you like. :)

BlueAngel is just trying to be intimidative.
For the most part BlueAngel can be ignored.

jane doe
02-23-2010, 09:48 AM
Posts such as the following are not welcome on this forum.

Originally Posted by jane doe http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/images/clubconspiracy/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/f22/mind-control-music-industry-4429-post65231.html#post65231)
Lost is a post by the Angel in Blue.
lost is the post from the map's interpretation.
Found is the mental zoo.
found is the mental masturbation of you.

So, is it the poetry, or the lack of rhyme, the use of your name, the use of words...please, in order for me to modify my behavior, I need to know specifics to do so. My brain lacks external-control, thus you have to be very specific to have control over me.

dayof...
03-03-2010, 05:27 PM
Who would have known, that these things go on in the world.
What lays ahead?

dayof...
03-04-2010, 04:25 PM
BlueAngel is blind and full of rage.

BlueAngel is the only one that ticks.

BlueAngel will discount statements of others.

BlueAngels' discounting statements of others is
meaningless.

BlueAngel doesn't debunk.

BlueAngel simply closes up and ignores anything but BlueAngel.

Hold yourself BlueAngel, hold yourself.

oneview
03-12-2010, 04:45 PM
Earlier on when I was reading this thread:

there was a post, wanting to know
about a song, to do with "carousel", in it.

Couldn't remember the title at that time.

Have now remembered it:
called - For Whom The Bell Tolls
group - Bee Gees

jane doe
03-13-2010, 07:13 AM
Have now remembered it:
called - For Whom The Bell Tolls
group - Bee Gees
That song reflects the ripping of my heart, as well..now I'm crying.effin' mourning my own death.

Lovie
03-13-2010, 07:44 AM
that song doesn't have carousel in it..
and its about lost love not death..

oneview
03-13-2010, 07:54 AM
that song doesn't have carousel in it..
and its about lost love not death..

My mistake:

Saved by the Bell
Bee Gees

Correct title instead.

FallaciesAbound
04-26-2010, 01:01 AM
She hardly "disappeared", but her status as a C list actress has gotten her a few gigs, and she has been modeling.

And celebrities, because of the nature of their business, are often granted non-disclosure agreements about sensitive details of a divorce. Not sure if thats what happened in this case, but I bet its a mis-representation to call it a "gag order".

FallaciesAbound
04-26-2010, 03:10 PM
I suppose, but I like to be precise. Too many years flying ILS approaches I guess. So what has Springsteen supposedly done to you exactly? The thread is kind of disjointed.

FallaciesAbound
04-26-2010, 09:58 PM
not really. saw something about him being your handler, and something about EM waves, which can effect people under the right circumstances, but cant figure out Bruce's roll in the whole thing.

FallaciesAbound
04-27-2010, 08:00 AM
Oh well, I'm not going to dig though 400 pages of silliness to try to figure out why someone thinks a musician is out to get them. Especially one as crappy as Bruce Springsteen. Give me Iggy Pop or Social Distortion any day lol.

The Poet
04-29-2010, 02:32 PM
Oh well, I'm not going to dig though 400 pages of silliness to try to figure out why someone thinks a musician is out to get them. Especially one as crappy as Bruce Springsteen. Give me Iggy Pop or Social Distortion any day lol.


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YouTube - GENERAL HOSPITAL Jane Elliot in straitjacket

YouTube - "All Women Are Bad" -- The Straightjacket

YouTube - Lobotomy - PBS documentary, on Walter Freeman

superted
04-30-2010, 09:35 AM
FallaciesAbound - in the first page blueangel states she was a sex slave for old brucey. I read onto page two but yea it gets a little weird so I stopped. All a little odd to say the least.

FallaciesAbound
05-01-2010, 09:09 AM
So, how is it that you know EM waves can effect people under the right circumstances?

If you can't figure out your friend, Bruce's role in the whole thing, I suggest you ask him since you're on a first name basis.

Well, if you stick someone in a microwave, they will cook, so its pretty obvious that radiations could have SOME effect. Whether or not you can do mind control or even harass someone with them is another story.

And im sure lots of women were his sex slaves....they are called groupies or band aids lol

The Poet
05-03-2010, 01:20 PM
So, how is it that you know EM waves can effect people under the right circumstances?

If you can't figure out your friend, Bruce's role in the whole thing, I suggest you ask him since you're on a first name basis.


For BlueAngel:

YouTube - Black Sabbath "Paranoid" Music Video


Finished with my woman
'Cause she couldn't help me with my mind
People think I'm insane
Because I am frowning all the time

All day long I think of things
But nothing seems to satisfy
Think I'll lose my mind
If I don't find something to pacify

Can you help me occupy my brain?
Oh yeah!

I need someone to show me
The things in life that I can't find
I can't see the things that make true happiness
I must be blind

Make a joke and I will sigh
And you will laugh and I will cry
Happiness I cannot feel
And love to me is so unreal

And so as you hear these words
Telling you now of my state
I tell you to enjoy life
I wish I could but it's too late

YouTube - Cypress Hill - Insane In The Brain

Lyrics to Insane In The Brain :
Who you tryin to get crazy with ese?
Don't you know I'm loco?


To da one on da flamboyant tip
I'll just toss that ham in the fryin pan
like spam, get done when I come and slam
Damn, I feel like the Son of Sam
Don't make me wreck shit, hectic
Next get the chair got me goin like General Electric
Annnd, the lights are blinkin I'm thinkin
It's all over when I go out drinkin
Ohh, makin my mind slow
That's why I don't fuck with the big four-oh
Bro, I got ta' maintain
Cause a nigga like me is [B]goin insane

[Chorus]
Insane in da membrane.. insane in da brain!
Insane in da membrane.. insane in da brain!
Insane in da membrane.. crazy insane, got no brain!
Insane in da membrane.. insane in da brain!

[Sen Dog]
Do my shit undercover now it's time for the blubba
blabber, to watch that belly get fatter
Fat boy on a diet, don't try it
I'll jack yo' ass like a looter in a riot
My shit's fat, like a sumo, slammin dat ass
Leavin yo' face in the grass
Cause you know, I don't take a duro, lightly
Punks just jealous cause they can't outwrite me
or kick that style, wicked, wild
Happy face nigga never seen me smile
Rip dat main=frame, I'll explain
A nigga like me is goin insane

[Chorus]


YouTube - Slayer - Criminally Insane (studio version)


Night will come and I will follow
For my victims, no tomorrow
Make it fast, your time of sorrow
On his trail, I'll make you follow

Quarters for the criminally insane
The sentence read for life I must remain
The path I chose has led me to my grave
To try again I'd have no other way

Quarters for the criminally insane
Escape for me has fast become a game
Soon to be, I'll leave without a trace
Endangered species end the human race

(lead: hanneman, king)

Branded in pain
Marked criminally insane
Locked away and kept restrained
Disapprobation, but what have I done
I have yet only just begun
To take your fuckin' lives!

[night will come and I will follow
For my victims, no tomorrow
Make it fast, your time of sorrow
On his trail, I'll make you follow]
More lyrics: Slayer lyrics (http://www.lyricsty.com/lyrics/s/slayer/#share)


{*DJ Muggs cuts and scratches*}

[B-Real]
Like Louie Armstrong, played the trumpet
I'll hit that bong and break ya off somethin soon
I got ta get my props
Cops, come and try to snatch my crops
These pigs wanna blow my house down
Head underground, to the next town
They get mad when they come to raid my pad
and I'm out in the nine-deuce Cad
Yes I'm the pirate, pilot
of this ship if I get with the ultraviolet dream
Hide from the red light beam
Now do you believe in the unseen?
Look, but don't make you eyes strain
A nigga like me is goin insane

[Chorus]

The Poet
05-07-2010, 10:52 AM
Sorry, pal, but your ascertain that I'm insane couldn't be any farther from the truth, but, I suspect you might be insane based upon your posts on this thread and elsewhere on the forum.

Do you seriously think that because you repeat over and over again that you believe I'm insane, makes it so?


Of course not. I base my assertion on the fact that your obsessed with Bruce Springsteen and that you obviously believe that he did something to you. When your story is examined, it is clear that is based on delusions and serious distortions in thought. Ergo, you are a person suffering from some sort of mental illness. Why? Because Bruce Springsteen is simply a musician. Yes, I am sure he has many groupies, but I doubt he has ever had sex slaves. You have never offered any proof to back that assertion. My conclusion is that you have NO proof. Thus, I have more reason to believe you are mentally ill then a liar.

Just so you know, it doesn't.

Only a PIG would respond on this thread as you have, but you're not the first PIG to do so.

Here again we see the typical response of a person suffering from a delusion. I would expect you to respondin this way, since in your deluded state you HONESTLY believe this. Do I believe you were molested in the past? Yes, I could totally believe that. Do I believe you may have been mistreated, perhaps raped by some animal in the past? Absolutely I would be open to believe that. I simply believe that in your chemically imbalanced brain, you have distorted the truth and now have focesed it all on Bruce Springsteen. Sad, but true.
Do I believe oyu have issues? Absolutely. But your issues isn;t with Bruce Springsteen. Is it possible you slept with Bruce Springsteen as a groupie, and now in your deluded state you believe something more nefarious happened? Absolutely. But unless you can offer some evidence to back your extraordinary claim, it is more logical to believe you are a person suffering from some form of mental illness needing treatement then your story.
Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence to support them. Either offer such evidence or accept that any rational, lucid and non-mentally ill person will not accept your ludicrous statements. It's just that simple.
Ad hominem attacks do not do anything to support your claims, either.

Gee, I wonder why PIGS like you even bother.

Yeah, it's a mystery.

Those who abused me are crazy and you, my friend, appear to be in their league.
Yes, those who abuse were crazy..and evil. But they were NOT Bruce Springsteen or the government. I assume that the trauma of the abuse has unhinged your mind and made you delusional. I certainly hope you receive intensive counseling so that you may overcome the abuse amd be returned to mental health.
Abuse is a terrible thing, and I am sure the individuals who did it to you are evil individuals. But again, extaordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence to prove they are true. I find it easier to believe oyu were molested by family members or people you knew, and that the trauma has unhinged your mind then that some nefarious government agency btrainwashed you or that you were Bruce Springsteens sex slave.
May I suggest that you work with a therapist and deal with the REAL issues? I believe you are obsessed with Bruce Springsteen because you are trying to hide the truth from yourself. Statistics would indicate that either a family member or some one you knew abused you, more then likely. Perhaps once you deal with your issues with a professional you may be able to return to reality. I don't really know.

Ain't my fault crazy people did crazy things to me.

True. Evil people do evil things. It isn't even your fault that, in your deluded state, you blame Bruce Springsteen. However, you have the choice whether to embrace your sickness or receive proffessional help. If you choose not to, that IS your fault.

So, whose the crazy one now?

You are. Any sane, rational person will disbelieve you and instantly recognize that you are a sick, mentally ill woman. ANYONE. The only one who belives what you say is you. Everyone else recognizes your story as a delusion.
Are you insane? It is hard to say. I believe you have been so abused by others you are borderline. I can hope that with medicine and therapy you can become rational and sane again though.

The Poet
05-07-2010, 11:00 AM
FallaciesAbound - in the first page blueangel states she was a sex slave for old brucey. I read onto page two but yea it gets a little weird so I stopped. All a little odd to say the least.

Yes, Blue Angel is mentally ill. Please do not support her in her delusions. You see, IMHO, she was abused but in her deluded state believes it had something to do with Bruce Springsteen.
Like most mentally ill people with a fixed delusion, she is quite rational when discussing other things. However, she does truly believe this. The best thing we can do is humor her and hope she receives the proper mefdication and therapy she needs to return to sanity.

The Poet
05-07-2010, 03:22 PM
You are delusional in that you believe your opinion about me is relevant.

Sorry, BlueAngel. I would say MOST people who heard this story you tell would conclude that you suffer from some kind of disorder.
As for my opinion being relevant, I really don't care if YOU believe it is or not. I would be suprised if you did. Most delusional people get angry when some disagrees with their delusion or points out how nonsensical it is. So I am not suprised at all that you feel this way.
I certainly hope some day a mental health proffessional can help you. IMHO, you need it. Not because you are a danger to anyone or yourself, but because you obviously have deep issues you need to deal with.

FallaciesAbound
05-07-2010, 06:54 PM
My guess is that she will never seek help though, since any sort of therapeutic treatment would be percieved by her as further abuse. So she is doomed to keep this loop running in her head, but fortunately it seems to have not caused her too much damage. Yet.

BlueAngel
05-07-2010, 11:39 PM
Well, now I know.

Barbarien was COLD, The Devil, IGNT and THEM.

What a disgusting pig.

I thought there was a member by the name of The DEVIL, but I can't find him anywhere or, perhaps, it was that Barbarien, as COLD, signed his comments as THE Devil and that's what I'm remembering.

In either event, The Devil and COLD made some very disgusting comments about me.

If The Devil existed, most likely he was Barbarien, as well, or the comments I'm remembering were posted by COLD and signed as The Devil.

Unusual, isn't it?

People on this forum making disgusting comments about me.

FallaciesAbound
05-08-2010, 02:45 PM
What a most ridiculous comment.

FallaciesAbound says that she's DOOMED to keep this LOOP running in her head and that it hasn't caused too much damage, yet.

My guess is that FallaciesAbound's comment is full of suggestions that most definitely are full of fallacies that will not abound.

Wow, that was the most poorly formed sentence I've seen in a long time. Were you intentionally trying to be cryptic?:confused:

I am starting to seriously wonder about you though, since you are so absorbed with the conspiracy thing that now apparently that is all you can see. That includes thinking that posters are out to get you or calling people by other posters names.

BlueAngel
05-09-2010, 08:46 PM
Apparently, Barbarien, a member of this forum, also posted as Insider, Indred and Fugitive.

FallaciesAbound
05-09-2010, 11:24 PM
And you know this how? Are you tracking IP addresses with each posting, or is it just a hunch?

BlueAngel
05-10-2010, 06:18 PM
It appears that I've stumbled upon a cell at CC:

A search of member LaDomino's IP address reveals the following usernames:

789 (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=39)
acca (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1294)
Agent_Orange (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=229)
Airborne1 (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1240)
Akbar (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=66)
Alexandra (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=10)
Alithia (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1017)
bambam (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=339)
Barbara (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=592)
Barbarian (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1198)
beaburt (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=959)
Bendair (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=707)
Benoit (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1330)
blackstarr (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=916)
CamoGreen (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1090)
canadianguy (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1617)
Chemlin (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1776)
Chuckd (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1028)
Coldprincess (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1177)
crowneagle (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=290)
crystalclear (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=426)
diamond (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=73)
diogenes (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=130)
DoctorX (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=295)
Draken (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=24)
Draken (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=24)
filthyfear (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1652)
Finn (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=701)
Fraser (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=853)
Fugitive (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1368)
FugitiveEye (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=270)
FuMiCo (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1431)
G4bster (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1241)
George_Bush (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=751)
HothSnake (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=992)
illuminatiwa (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1762) ] (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=doips&u=1762&hash=a749df35957d138015864db31b0ca1c1)
jason_ou812 (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=689)
JillyBean (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=61)
Johnny_Reb (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=109)
John_1335 (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=786)
jonk (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=410)
Khopesh (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=718)
kidstrife (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1000)
Kinergy (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=93)
LaDominio (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=662)
Liberty (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=412)
Longshot36 (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1072)
marypopinz (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=90)
MasonTemplar (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=388)
Max (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=112)
MikeB (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=670)
mikeenviro (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=530)
Mynda_Peace (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=430)
nakedsnake (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=405)
nathanblows (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1168)
neenafoof (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=798)
nohope187 (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=84)
NOLizardo (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1463)
NWBeliever (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=517)
Nyarla (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=700)
O_VAUGHAN (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1210)
Parashuram (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=108)
phoenix (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=688)
qwertyuiop (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1381)
rangergord (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=17)
REBELBULL (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=579)
RedIce (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1451)
redrat11 (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=647)
Robski (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1480)
rushdoony (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=99)
salenko (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1495)
savagebovine (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=566)
ScoopMC (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=528)
SeC (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=776)
seemless (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1234)
Shadow (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1223)
starviego (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=158)
Steve (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=144)
StoneWT (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=241)
Styris (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1055)
Sucre (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1175)
Swoolfer (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1595)
TheMirror (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1485)
thokhanCep (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=100)
Trinity (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=588)
truebeliever (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=259)
truthlies (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1502)
universal (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1560)
Vlad (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=299)
wackooooo (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=930)
Wainy (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1021)
white_floe (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1345)
Wiking (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=702)
Yeoshua (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=262)
zenpho (http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/user.php?do=viewuser&u=1233)
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Names of note in the above list:

Barbara
TrueBeliever
MaryPopinz
George_Bush
RedRatII
Nohope187
Rushdoony
Shadow
Fugitive
SEC

When I searched under RedRatII's IP address in the above list, George_Bush displayed as another username.

BlueAngel
05-10-2010, 06:24 PM
Jimbo was also:

Me9G7X5t1r2M

BlueAngel
05-10-2010, 06:57 PM
Mongoose a/k/a cuda.

BlueAngel
05-10-2010, 08:16 PM
What a tangled web they weave.

Seraching Frau_nothing's IP address brings about usernames:

Insider (Barbarien)

Torthithill

madcow

and, lo' and behold RedRatII appears, as well as Indred (Barbarien) and IGNT (Barbarien).

FallaciesAbound
05-10-2010, 09:42 PM
Cool that you can track that. I know the JREF and FES sites both had problems with the duplicate poster spam things. Too bad the programmers cant figure out how to eliminate that.

BlueAngel
05-10-2010, 09:47 PM
Cool that you can track that. I know the JREF and FES sites both had problems with the duplicate poster spam things. Too bad the programmers cant figure out how to eliminate that.

Yes, Eire/FallaciesAbound.

It's' real COOL that I can track that.

It's not too bad for you, though, because you are a duplicate poster.

:cool:

BlueAngel
05-11-2010, 09:04 PM
Nomad was CIA Insider, Born_to_Die and 666.

jane doe
05-18-2010, 08:26 AM
What a great thread.

Lovie
05-19-2010, 10:00 PM
I wouldn't refer to this thread as great, because, you see what happened to me wasn't great.

And, what happened to every other child and adult who was a victim of a mind control program and/or experimented on wasn't great either.

It's a thread about my life as a young child incarcerated in the mind control program MKULTRA/Project Monarch and used in the music industry as a sex slave and for other CRIMINAL and inhumane purposes.

No more and no less, but it certainly ain't great.

what happened to you was not great...but this thread is.

Lovie
05-20-2010, 08:10 AM
Apparently, I frightened LOVIE away.

I would consider it a gain and not a loss.

Not really, I'm not frightened of someone posting words on a forum. I have other things to do than sit and wait for you to reply. So, if it takes a few hours to get back here and respond, don't assume that you have scared me off.

Sorry, TBT, you're right.

Seriously, LOVIE asks if I ever met Springsteen.

I clearly state that Springsteen was my main handler.

Duh?
well, that wasn't exactly clear. I thought maybe he did it by music alone. you kinda alluded to that being the case, via "springsteens website" Now which is it? did you meet him and have a relationship with him Or was this all done telepathically over the net?
If he was your main handler and abused you in person, why aren't you pressing charges instead of trying to paint me with the brush you try to paint everyone with?

Really?

This thread is great.

How could the fact that I was abused as a child in experimentation; used in "kiddie" pornography; in the music industry as a sex slave and for other criminal purposes be great?

You must have a screw lose in your head somewhere the same as Jane Doe who thinks this thread is great.

I don't expect anything of significance from you LOVIE, because, as I recall, you once called me a vicious b*tch.

But, go ahead, anyway.

Please.

Do tell the FORUM why you think this thread is great.

Well, if you look at it as if you are trying to get YOUR story told, could be great for you too.
FTR, I can be aggressive as you and equally as bitchy. If you think I care about getting banned from here you are wrong.
you don't have to read my posts, nor do I have to read yours, it's odd how you were so abused, yet that's what YOU do. accuse, abuse..banned. power trip..


you seem a little over the top rude to posters on this forum. No one can say ANYTHING that you dislike you accuse them of being psi ops. you don't have to be a bitch to get your story out, but you choose to be.

superted
05-20-2010, 11:26 AM
I just had an exam and it went quite well so I'm in a really good mood so this is post is not meant to annoy, simply illustrate.

"I don't abuse and I'm not on a power trip. "

Blue I have thought this and you disagree but then over last few weeks loads of other posters have agreed with me. Surely you must now that you do abuse your power and it does seem like your on a power trip. Who's right, you on your own (and your opinion is biased) or what 4/5 other posters on here?

superted
05-20-2010, 12:11 PM
"This is your second warning."
What is your problem?

Your last post totally vindicated my point. Why would I leave this forum because of you? Your not the reason I'm on this forum.

Lovie
05-23-2010, 11:38 AM
Obviously, you didn't get my point, which, was clear and concise so I have no idea why you didn't get my point.

I don't have a problem, but apparently you have a problem with me.

Since you are of the opinion that I am abusive and on a power trip and spend most of your time on this forum talking about my job performance as it relates to CC in every thread you possibly can, I would think you would want to leave.

This is your last warning.

One more post about my moderation of CC and you're gone.

P.S. My last post didn't vindicate anything that you said.

see you are on a power trip.. you do not read what other posters say EVER!

wow, just wow.

why is CC just about you?

superted
05-23-2010, 01:39 PM
I would say 'well said' Lovie but I would be banned.

jane doe
05-24-2010, 07:37 AM
The concept in this song, and others similiar, is structured to brainwash people into spirtual subservience to humans.

YouTube - Prince - I Would Die 4 U , Baby I 'm a Star + lyrics

Lovie
05-28-2010, 05:42 AM
what are they doing to you now?

FallaciesAbound
05-29-2010, 06:29 PM
The concept in this song, and others similiar, is structured to brainwash people into spirtual subservience to humans.

YouTube - Prince - I Would Die 4 U , Baby I 'm a Star + lyrics (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqGOtfPDH90)
Spoken like someone who has never gotten laid. lol. Its a song. Even if it was some grand scheme, it can only affect you if you let it.

Lovie
06-08-2010, 11:22 AM
These are my findings:

When you are a member of CC, you begin as a member and, according to your post count advance to junior member; senior member; and from what I recall, home away from home.

These words appear under your username.

So, why is it that the words "free member" appear under iHIMself's username?

And, why is it that under beentheredonethat's username the words "leap in/leap out" appear under his username?

And why do the words "The Master Mason" appear under KsigMason's username?

Just curious.

Anyone care to enlighten me because, obviosuly, Mizfish doesn't.

you can change it yourself if you want to. I changed mine no big conspiracy thee.

I just heard a springsteen song on xfm..I have to say I'm glad he was not my handler. his music sucks

jane doe
08-02-2010, 10:06 AM
Advisors!

Did you win the lottery? :)

li'lears
08-07-2010, 02:56 PM
Hi BlueAngel:

To start with I don't care what you have to say about my post(s).

Simplified you are a "gaslighter". To make it simple.
("sociopath" would be more accurate)

Your thread on your life experience unknown to you is FICTIONAL.
It is simply "piped" through to your "little mind".

You take to it with your little mind because there is nothing in your life to you
Schizoid you know.

You have no problem chucking out your present life in favour of what you
relate here in your thread to see yourself as a somebody. Nevermind you
have a loving husband and offspring that you plug in favour of time and
time again.

Remember BlueAngel: I don't care what you have to say about anything.
SO KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT.

li'lears
08-07-2010, 02:57 PM
past lives??

You mention "past lives??" with a question mark, no doubt because you can't
see "reincarnation" set in present day surroundings. Which makes it not
a reincarnated event being recalled in "a" next life.

li'lears
08-07-2010, 04:40 PM
This ? was yours not mine. Could be my post wasn't outright clear AND
I possibly didn't read your ? quite right:

BA asked "who is the someone else"?
Someone else = victim/victims (not known by name)
of these other handlers/controllers.
(your question not mine)

Someone else also = "each" of the victims, not "all" lumped together.

I asked about blackouts because:
while you were at the mercy of the handlers/controllers
"the amount of time" that was taken up during your ordeal
would have to be taken out from ---- your day to day life.

Was wondering if there were periods of "missing time",
as you proceeded with your life.
(because of your recalling it having happened, seemingly later in life)


BA: Jane Doe hasn't made an impression on me or anyone else.
Well, maybe you.

You appear to be picking at words here AND insinuating.

BA: Unless you have something pertinent to add to the topic of
mind control, kindly refrain from engaging in useless chatter with
Jane Doe or anyone else on this thread or any thread on this forum.

Have encountered your posts all over this forum and you, notice-ably,
do not follow your own advice.
It must have been "useless" chatter, only, in your eyes AND we have
nothing going on between us.

BA: What happened to me....and I'm not in need of any anonymous
posters....asserting they know better than myself.

Never asserted that I know better than you about your experiences.
Posts are subject to the interpreter. Not your "absolute" perogative.

BA: My response to Jane Does' post was not out of place.
You, however, are out of place for insinuating such.

Seemed like forum etiquette to me.



Please refrain from picking posts' apart TO twist around.
No "need" for us to debate this statement.


I am trying to comprehend your experience that you are "pain-stakingly"
being informative about to others.

Thanks for bringing - What happened to you - Out in the open.
I find it to be an "eye-opener".

You started this thread BUT readers of it, will post in it.
Not "outright subject" to your interpretation of these posts.
There ARE lots of posts in threads that appear to be needless.
(mostly we grin and bare it, some liven things up though)

No doubt, upagainstit and Jane Doe, felt their post was uncalled for.
You, BlueAngel, however: your remarks were not in line.
Obviously, not ALL of BlueAngels' remarks, were out of line,
BUT the ones that were, were noticeable.

You will find my contribution to this forum,
in the story of my life, that I tell:
Social Oppression (http://upagainstit-s-o.blogspot.com/)
it's also in the "introduction" section.
Thread is called: Life As I Know It.
Suggestion: go from first to last entry when you get to the blog.

BlueAngels' life experience and mine are not the same.
However, we both found out later, that something was going on with us.
I became aware of "WHAT'S" going on from 1983 to the present.

Warning: BlueAngel writes "a lot" better than I do.

Tried to delete this post. wrong one

li'lears
08-07-2010, 04:52 PM
IN RETROSPECT:

Almost 500 pages to this thread.

Sped my way through from page 170 and on.

Up until page 170, read each post.

Looking back, reading up to page 100
will give you the "gist" of
BlueAngels' experience.

Pages 100 on to the end almost
is mostly ranting and raving in
quantity and lacks more quality.

Around page 470 the topic of this thread
appears to be gotten away from
even by BlueAngel her/his self.


Warning:

Pages in the 130 to 140 range:
posters mention pictures here
BlueAngel somewhat "jumps" in
saying the matter will be taken care of.
Not once but twice, the pictures are still there.
The second set of pictures,
is probably the ones they are referring to.
However, the first set - shown twice,
one other time earlier than this,
seem to have no basis to be there.

I suspect BlueAngel has more than, one username.

Posts by BlueAngel between 140 to 170:
seem to be on somekind of "tyrade".
I was "alarmed" at that time.
However: fears appear to be unfounded.

Posts around 340 maybe a little earlier and on:
there is increased interaction between
members of this forum and BlueAngel.

Prior to then this thread is heavy on
BlueAngels', something like "documentary".

BlueAngel appears to be tiring of the thread
around December 2008 to January 2009.
From Jan 2009 to today the time
taken up by the thread, speeds up.


OPINION TIME:

BlueAngel states the time of this ordeal,
experience by her/him, started
shortly after the 9/11 of 2001.
When the incident of the
World Trade Center twin towers occurred.

That would date the remembrance of things
by BlueAngel around 2002.

Nearest I could figure BlueAngel was born
around 1956 in June.
The memories start to unfold around 2002.
(maybe a month or two before)

Apparently the 9/11 of 2001 incident,
triggered something in BlueAngel,
real or imagined(?).

Prior to 2002, BlueAngel, seems
to have frequented "rock concerts"
of her "pet peeve".

However: BlueAngel states in the thread,
that the idea, that unfolds here in the thread,
was taken to - more "media" attention means.
The "medias" approached, did not accept.

BlueAngels' life apart from this forum that
is retold "of", by her/him,
ends up - lacking credibility.

The way BlueAngel handles this ordeal,
is "reminiscent" of the way
"psychics" are portrayed on TV and in movies.

Speaking from my own experience, which started in 1983,
such "over-whelmed" by emotionally set back,
when these "memories" are replayed in oneself,
subsides later on: so "continually" taken with
these "experiences" after a while,
no longer "exist" in such way.
In my own case it would go Aug to Oct of 1983
to the early 1990's. Not endlessly on still,
even though this still goes on with me, to this date.

BlueAngel states in this thread, that
what is relayed here to us
was an "idea" that was taken to
more "revealing" far and wide, media.
Seemingly before the memories started around 2002.

Something that was seen by BlueAngel
in the lyrics of songs, that
BlueAngel could go on about.

BlueAngel has gone on and on.....
about it, in this thread.

Lots of quantity, short on "quality".

However, BlueAngels' demeanor, needs to be adrressed.

BlueAngel appears to have "gaslighter", tendencies.
Probably doesn't go to the "possessing" extent.
BlueAngel "wants" to have it on you, in such way, though.

There were some posters that BlueAngel couldn't handle.
Appears to be because, BlueAngel,
couldn't "see" the poster, from his/her post.
The only reason I can see for BlueAngel
being "visibly" upset, by Leonardo.

OVERALL:
BlueAngel, "spun"; a good "yarn".
What was written about, is quite believable.

BlueAngels' experience in life,
past and present,
lacks credibility
directly applicable to BlueAngel.

This is the one that I wanted to bring up as the only valid review of this
thread. Not the one before this. Mistake.

li'lears
08-07-2010, 05:13 PM
This thread by BA is not what it portrays itself to be.

The author of this thread is simply passing it out from being played through to

Like in the music industry and authors: it just comes to them.

Not consciously produced by.

li'lears
08-07-2010, 05:20 PM
Hey, BA:

The only evidence you have that you speak of
is at best stashed away by you from your earlier years.
It doesn't exist to you "presently".

You haven't got it from your later years.
You probably don't know where it is.
Your experience has just been played through to you.

You are simply taken with yourself to have been there.
No doubt your life is meaningless otherwise.

Don't forget BA: I don't care what you have to say about anything.
So KEEP QUIET.
You know SHUT UP.

You don't get by me.
Hide behind your stance ---> it's all you do.

BlueAngel
08-16-2010, 11:59 PM
Your apology for the USA to the countless numbers of those who were "unethically" experimented on in prisons, institutions, hospitals and military bases is not accepted.

YouTube - President Clinton admits to mind control experiments

Lovie
08-20-2010, 09:34 PM
can you get the full video or at least one that doesn't look like it has been tampered with?

Lovie
08-22-2010, 12:34 AM
I had no motive..I looks like (to me it has been tampered with)..It's not clear, I can't see his lips moving, to tell if has been overdubbed..
30 seconds is the full video?? come on..no president has made a 30 second speech in his life..

Lovie
08-22-2010, 09:05 PM
[QUOTE]What?

You find it hard to believe that the government conducted unethical experimentation on "unwitting" citizens and that Clinton made a public apology?

I never said that! I just asked you for a better video.

I suspect, in your world, it's better to believe that the video is a fake.
In my world? I just asked you for a better video.


Please tell us what purpose this would serve?
a better video.

Here's a suggestion, since you think the video is a fake, how 'bout you send the video to a media outlet and ask them to authenticate it or to Clinton himself asking him if those are his words.

so, you want ME to validated it when it was your posting?
I just asked you for a better video.


FYI, as anyone can see, the video provides a clip of his speech.
doesn;t look like it to me...

No one said the clip was the entire speech.
yes, yes you did..

Try finding the video on the web.
you are the one who posted it, I just asked you for a better one.

Very few exist.
why do you suppose that is?

Most cannot be FOUND when clicking on the link.

Gee.

I wonder why?

Oh so you don't know either...
Doesn't take a rocket scientist to know the answer to that question.
apparently it does
I wonder just the same why the video is of such poor quality.
Do you? Do you REALLY??
Doesn't take a rocket scientist....

I have provided the text below.

The following is a portion of a speech given on 10/3/95 by President William C. Clinton concerning Executive Order 12975 - Protection of Human Research Subjects and Creation of National Bioethics Advisory Commission:

"Thousands of government-sponsored experiments did take place at hospitals, universities, and military bases around our nation. Some were unethical, not only by today's standards, but by the standards of the time in which they were conducted. They failed both the test of our national values, and the test of humanity. The United States of America offers a sincere apology to those of our citizens who were subjected to these experiments, to their families, and to their communities. When the government does wrong, we have a moral responsibility to admit it."

yep. that is fer sure not tampered with. I can tell by the way you wrote it out...

Lovie
08-22-2010, 09:40 PM
Sorry, but I never said that the video was the entirety of Clinton's speech so don't say that I did, because I didn't.

If you want a better video, find it yourself.

This forum doesn't exist to appease you nor do I.

You're the person who questions the validity of the video, so, yes, you are the person who should attempt to verify it and not me.

Again.

This forum doesn't exist to appease you nor do I.

Do your own research.

You're accussing me of tampering with the words Clinton spoke on the video?

You can cleary hear them.

The excerpt was provided by others and myself, as well, and they jive.

Get real, pal!

Or, don't.

Either way, take a hike.



I NEVER said any of the things you are accusing me of Blue angel.
I don't need to find a better copy. You are the one who provided the video..I idn't..
to me it's not very viable. If you want ME to beleive or anyone.. you are the one who needs to find a better video
FTR I'm not your pal..
YOU said it was the full speech..then you went and edited your posts...
YOU have an agenda. no one else..just you..

Lovie
08-22-2010, 10:44 PM
I haven't accused you of anything, but you've accused me of plenty which is untrue such as tampering with Clinton's words on the video.

I didn't say that you tampered with clinton's words..I asked for a better video.
So you actually made this video??

Doesn't matter whether I provided the video or not, you're the person who isn't satisfied with it and wants a better copy so I suggest you find one.
I don't really care..AT ALL..it still looks fake to me..
I don't work for you.

nor do I you.

I provided a video which was provided by someone else.
you think they could have gotten better footage. hmmmm

Believe it as it is or not, I couldn't care any less.

sure you care..you wouldn't get yourself riled up so bad if you didn't..


CC doesn't exist so that we can spend our time proving that which hasn't been proven by someone such as yourself claiming the video is fake.
I never claimed it was fake. I asked for a better video. I said it SEEMS fake to me. If you don't want to waste your time trying to get a better copy of the video, why should I? I'm not the MCV who is trying to tell my story to the world you are.
I never said it was the full speech and edited my post.
yeah you did.

NEVER!
um okay whatever you say..

You are lying.
hmmm..nope, I have nothing to gain by lying but I'm wondering why you want to make me look crazy, here.

Yep.
sure..

I do have an agenda and so do many others including yourself.
I don't have an agenda..I just asked for a better video

The difference would be that my agenda is honorable and your agenda is not.
so what EXACTALY would my agenda be for asking you for a better copy of the video???


btw, I looked for a better video..you can't see his lips to match the words up to his speech..could be overdubbed..

overdub
verb |ˌōvərˈdəb| ( -dubbed, -dubbing)
record (additional sounds) on an existing recording [ trans. ] : she'd overdub her parts for a whole album in a single session | [ intrans. ] a live tape that I overdubbed on.

Lovie
08-23-2010, 02:26 PM
You're asking me for a better copy of the video because you are attempting to prove that it's a fake because you know that a better copy doesn't exist.

Gee, how convenient.

So, if Clinton's words are overdubbed, what does that prove?

That someone overdubbed his words and he never apologized for the "unethical" experimentations conducted on "unwitting" citizens by the government of the United State's of America?

Could you kindly find out what Clinton really said before he was, as you believe, overdubbed?

Even if the video is a fake; even if his words are overdubbed, I can assure you that "unethical" experimentation's were conducted by the government of the United State's of America on "unwitting" citizens and I don't need a President or otherwise to aknowledge it.

Try searching the "Tuskegee" experimentation.

Here's a question for you.

What would be the point of producing a fake video of Clinton apologizing to the "victim's" of unethical experimentation?

there's alot of people just saying stuff on the web. I don't know why someone would overdub that. But, people do a lot of stuff that I don't understand why.
Why are you so convinced it's the real thing??

and FTR, I didn't know there weren't any good copies of it till I looked LAST NIGHT!
And again..I don't rally give a shit two much..If it's true that Clinton apologised, it would be a start, but, I find it difficult to beleive that a polition would apologise.

jane doe
08-23-2010, 04:12 PM
If Clinton apologized it doesn't mean shit. Both Clintons can say anything without honesty.

Lovie
08-24-2010, 10:54 PM
Ohmygoodness.

I contemplate.

Should I even attempt to reply to the following mess that was posted by Lovie?

I say to myself.

Oh, why not?

You've conquered so much worse.

You can do this.

Go for it, I say.

So, I do only because there are a couple of comments by Lovie that I feel I need to clarify, but precision is one of my attributes, so I must not leave any stone unturned in the process.

Cause, that's what I do.

I clarify that which isn't clear.
All of it.
Not just a piece or a particle.

So, please.
Allow me the honor.

Originally Posted by BlueAngel

I haven't accused you of anything, but you've accused me of plenty which is untrue such as tampering with Clinton's words on the video.

Lovie said:

I didn't say that you tampered with clinton's words..I asked for a better video.
So you actually made this video??

YOU SAID THAT YOU ARE ABLE TO TELL THAT THE WRITTEN WORDS WERE TAMPERED WITH. I TRANSCRIBED HIS WORDS (i.e., I WROTE THEM) AND, BTW, PLEASE INFORM THE FORUM HOW IT IS YOU ARE ABLE TO KNOW THAT THE WRITTEN WORDS AS TRANSCRIBED BY ME AND OTHERS WERE TAMPERED WITH.

I NEVER SAID I MADE THE VIDEO.

BlueAngel said:

Doesn't matter whether I provided the video or not, you're the person who isn't satisfied with it and wants a better copy so I suggest you find one.

Lovie said:

I don't really care..AT ALL..it still looks fake to me..

OBVIOUSLY, YOU CARE AS YOU CONTINUE TO HOUND ME TO FIND A BETTER COPY. SORRY TO INFORM YOU BUT YOUR OPINION THAT THE VIDEO IS A FAKE DOESN'T MATTER.

Blue Angel said:

I don't work for you.

Lovie said:

nor do I you.

WHO THEN DO YOU WORK FOR IF NOT FOR YOURSELF?

OH, LET ME GUESS!!

BlueAngel said:

I provided a video which was provided by someone else.

Lovie said:

you think they could have gotten better footage. hmmmm

YEAH, RIGHT.
DAMN THEM.
YOU THINK THEY COULD HAVE PROVIDED BETTER FOOTAGE.
LIKE I SAID.
DID IT EVER OCCUR TO YOU THAT SOMEONE OTHER THAN THE PERSON WHO TOOK THE VIDEO TAMPERED WITH IT?

BlueAngel said:

Believe it as it is or not, I couldn't care any less.

Lovie said:

sure you care..you wouldn't get yourself riled up so bad if you didn't..

SORRY TO DISAPPOINT YOU, BUT I'M NOT RILED UP. YOU ARE APPARENTLY THE PERSON WHO IS RILED UP ABOUT THIS VIDEO AND NOT ME AS YOU CONTINUE TO GO ON AND ON ABOUT IT.

BlueAngel said:

CC doesn't exist so that we can spend our time proving that which hasn't been proven by someone such as yourself claiming the video is fake.

Lovie said:

I never claimed it was fake. I asked for a better video. I said it SEEMS fake to me. If you don't want to waste your time trying to get a better copy of the video, why should I? I'm not the MCV who is trying to tell my story to the world you are.

AH, YOU SAID IT LOOKS LIKE THE VIDEO WAS TAMPERED WITH; CLINTON'S WORDS WERE DUBBED OVER AND, THEREFORE, IT SEEMS FAKE.

I DIDN'T ASK YOU TO WASTE YOUR TIME FINDING A BETTER COPY OF THE VIDEO. YOU ASKED ME TO WASTE MY TIME FINDING A BETTER COPY OF THE VIDEO FOR YOU.

AS AN MCV, I'M NOT THE LEAST BIT CONCERNED ABOUT FINDING A BETTER COPY OF THE VIDEO, CAUSE, PAL, CLINTONI'S WORDS AREN'T MY EVIDENCE; THEY JUST ADD TO IT.

BlueAngel said:

I never said it was the full speech and then edited my post after you accused me of saying it was the full speech.

Lovie said:

yeah you did.

KINDLY PROVE WHERE I SAID THE CLIP OF CLINTON WAS HIS FULL SPEECH.

I NEVER SAID SUCH A THING AND THEN EDITED MY POST.

YOU'RE THE ONE WHO SAID A PRESIDENT HAS NEVER GIVEN A SPEECH THAT LASTS HOW EVER LONG THIS CLIP DID AND NOT I.

BlueAngel said:

NEVER!

Lovie said:

um okay whatever you say..

YOU BETCHA!

BlueAngel said:

You are lying.

Lovie said:

hmmm..nope, I have nothing to gain by lying but I'm wondering why you want to make me look crazy, here.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO GAIN BY LIEING, THAN DON'T LIE SUCH AS SAYING I SAID THE CLIP REPRESENTED CLINTON'S FULL SPEECH.

Lovie said:

Yep.

sure..

YEP, yet again.

BlueAngel said:

I do have an agenda and so do many others including yourself.

Lovie said:

I don't have an agenda..I just asked for a better video.

SO FIND ONE.

BlueAngel said:

The difference would be that my agenda is honorable and your agenda is not.
wow ..just wow..

NONE OF that transpired.. go back and read the posts..
I asked for a better video..you are the OP of the video..
you made this into some big conspiracy to fuel your demons..
you are insane..
goodbye.

Lovie
08-25-2010, 09:58 AM
[QUOTE=BlueAngel;70005]If it didn't transpire, why is it there?
well, something transpired but NOT what you claim..
Go back and read the posts.I know what I said and what I meant.

You'll see that they are there.
yes, anyone can see the rubbish that you spew.
Therefore, they transpired. Not like you think..

I'm not the OP of the video and even if I were, it doesn't mean I have to supply you with a better copy.
so, you are saying that you didn't post the video on club conspiracy? It says Blue Angel. so either you are lying or someone is posting under your user name....
You're the person who wants a better copy, not me.

So, go find one. so, your satisfied then..cool

I didn't make this into some big conspiracy, you did.
hmmm just because I think it's fake apology?
Therefore, you are the one who needed to do so in order to fuel his demons.
I don't know why you keep referring to me in the masculine pronoun. I am female.
No demons here. That is what demons want you to believe.

jane doe
08-25-2010, 12:44 PM
Wait until Bill hears about this.

Lovie
08-25-2010, 07:45 PM
Wait until Bill hears about this.

yeah, I sent him an email @whitehouse.gov..he said he has no idea what I'm talking about.

Lovie
08-27-2010, 07:13 AM
[quote=Lovie;70016]

Inside the box.


If you posted the video on CC, then YOU ARE the OP..OP stands for Original poster. Sheesh~
I like how you rearrange posts, to suit yourself. So you can scream foul. It's nice having power against people init?

Lovie
09-01-2010, 10:11 AM
[quote=Lovie;70041]

I've explained in detail about the video ad nauseum and, it appears, you are the only person who doesn't understand the written word, because you constantly misinterpret that which is CLEARLY WRITTEN IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE, which causes you to continually rehash the unimportant; attempting to make some point which you will never make because you are not comprehending that which is, as I said, CLEARLY WRITTEN IN THE ENLGISH LANGUAGE.

My post about the video indicates that I understand what OP stands for.

I don't rearrange my posts to suit myself.

I don't scream foul and I don't have power against people.

More misconceptions by Lovie.

What else is new?

Why did you say you were not the OP then? If you understand what it means???
Oh wait, you'll say you didn't say that, and will have edited your posts so that they don't say that anymore..that's what I mean by using power over people..then when you don't like what they say you ban them..

talk about psy-ops...

Lovie
09-01-2010, 12:56 PM
If it didn't transpire, why is it there?

Go back and read the posts.

You'll see that they are there.

Therefore, they transpired.

I'm not the OP of the video and even if I were, it doesn't mean I have to supply you with a better copy.

You're the person who wants a better copy, not me.

So, go find one.

I didn't make this into some big conspiracy, you did.

Therefore, you are the one who needed to do so in order to fuel his demons.

No demons here.

Demon free!

quoting this here before BA edit's her post where she said she is not the op...

Lovie
09-08-2010, 09:53 AM
Thank you for quoting a post wherein I say that I wasn't the OP of the Clinton video.

Hint:

I think what you're looking for is a post wherein I said I was the original poster.

Your apology for the USA to the countless numbers of those who were "unethically" experimented on in prisons, institutions, hospitals and military bases is not accepted.

YouTube - President Clinton admits to mind control experiments (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTiONdJJRcw)

Furthermore, your presence on this forum is irrelevant and so is the content that you write.

I feel the same way about you!


Whew! This is getting fun, now!

YOU posted the video, a VERY bad, FAKE apology video!
I asked you if you could get a better copy, because YOU were the OP, of the video!
YOU accused me of some sort of VAST conspiracy :), cause I asked for a better copy of the video!
YOU denied being the OP OVER AND OVER AND OVER...and then Called ME a liar..lol
it appears that you are the one who is a liar!
So now you are turning this into an unimportant argument over the OP..
so you fail, at making me out to be the liar, the LIAR is you..
what do you gain??? elitist attitude.. you sure you don't work for THEM???

jane doe
09-08-2010, 06:14 PM
BlueAngel, I am impressed by your poem.:)

Lovie
09-13-2010, 07:30 PM
I never accused you of some sort of vast conspiracy.

FYI, the video is floating around on the INTERNET.

Hence, this is from where it originated.

As I said, I don't believe I was the OP of the video and I requested that you provide back-up that proves I was and even if you DO provide back-up that proves I was the OP of the video on this forum, so what?

Ah, I think it would be you who has OVER and OVER and OVER again tried to turn this into an unimportant argument.

No.

I take that back.

I don't think it is you.

I am certain it is you.

word salad....

jane doe
09-15-2010, 10:34 AM
BlueAngel, your husband is so lucky to have your love.:)

conasatátú
09-16-2010, 01:09 AM
Cathy O'Brien speaks of the music industry in her book "Trance Formation of America" she also names names.

It's an interesting book but a harrowing read - if anyone wants it, I have it as a PDF - PM me.

I have also seen a few vids on YouTube about this subject - the most recent, Lady Gaga. However, all through the 70s there were rumours about Led Zep and the Stones etc. that fit this theme and the old adage "no smoke without fire" usually holds true in my experience.

Lovie
09-23-2010, 03:34 PM
you realize ads are a google bot right?
meaning they just search for key WORDS..

Lovie
09-23-2010, 08:03 PM
No.

I didn't realize that until Mizfish explained it to me.

Like I said, thank GOODNESS that Club Conspiracy has relinqished their "advertising rights" to GOOGLE.

:eek:
pretty much every website does it to earn revenue..
did you ban the owner of the site? tee hee that'd be funny

Lovie
09-25-2010, 09:18 AM
Hmm.. He could shut down the site..that would be REALLY funny:rolleyes:

retro_stripes
11-03-2010, 11:11 AM
miley cyrus's mom cheated with bret michaels.
demi lovato just entered rehab for cutting.
all the disney kids have horrible lives.

JBoy
11-12-2010, 03:56 PM
Monarch slave actors/performers:

-Roseanne Barr, Bette Mittler, Marilyn Monroe, Loretta Lynn, Crystal Gayle, Wayne Newton,...etc.

MAJOR slave handlers-->Frank Sinatra, Peter Lawford & Bob Hope
MAJOR programmers-->Anton LaVey & Jerry lee Lewis

Elvis Presley-->Illuminati programmed multiple-->AKA John Burrows-->Memphis Mafia-->twin brother dead @ birth-->Elvis' handler/programmer was Col. Tom Parker-->Elvis active member of Theosophical Society-->after Elvis' death, Sun International Corp. released Elvis album called 'Orion'-->Mae Boren Axton (AKA Grande Dame of Nashville) pivotal in Elvis' life-->Elvis close to Burt Reynolds & Jerry Lee Lewis.

Hollywood productions exist SOLELY to PUSH mind-control agenda.


-Star Wars, Star Trek, Wizard of Oz, Love Boat, Fantasy Island, I Dream of Jeanie, The Little Princess, Miss Universe Contest 1995, Duck Tails, Bobby's World, Tiny Toons, My Fair Lady, ET,...etc.

Shows containing elements of Illuminati ceremonies/history/drug running methods:

-Bell, Book & Candle, Burn Witch Burn, Curse of the Voodoo, Equinox, Manos, The Hands of Fate, Witchcraft '70, Spirits of the Living Dead, Frankenstein, Night of the Living Dead, Bewitched, Raising Cain, Hellraiser 3,...etc.

Shows portraying total mind-control Monarch programming:

-Telephon, Manchurian Candidate, Videodrome, Labyrinth, Trancer II, Krull, The Attack of the Robots, Dr. Goldfoot & the Bikini Machine, Attack of the Puppet People, The War of the Zombies, Colossus - The Forbin Project, The Point of No Return (Jane Fonda's Bridgett-->OTO), Cat Girl, Golem, Cyborg 2087,...etc.


Coca-cola (Illuminati ran)-->MAJOR advertiser for Star Trek.

'God'-man Dalai Lama-->HUGE fan of TNG.

Illuminati S & M porn film industry BOOMING for 1/2 century; MASSIVE humiliation, torture & snuff.

Michael Aquino-->'Mickey Mouse' programming (also his nickname)

Frank Sinatra bought the movie rights for Richard Condons 'Manchurian Candidate', published in 1958.

Frank Sinatra has handled Bob Hopes' slaves when Bob's victims 'lent' to the 'Rat Pack' (Dean Martin, Frank, Sammy Davis Jr., Peter Lawford & Joey Bishop).

Frank close to Rockefellars/Rothschilds

Peter & Sammy-->Satanists

Dean wanted to bring collared sexual slave with 'kitten' alter onto his TV show, but was stopped.

Frank's mother performed illegal 'abortions'.

Illuminati death squads FAR superior to Mafia.

Charlie 'Lucky' Luciano controlled Marilyn Monroe.

William Joseph Bryan, Jr.-->(AKA William Joseph Bryon/William Jenning Bryan III)-->Chief of Air Force's 'Medical Survival Training' (covert mind-control section)-->programmed Sirhan Sirhan to be involved in Rob Kennedy asassination-->Bryan was Satanic priest in Old Roman Catholic church.

Bryan/Sinatra-->members of Tommy Dorsey Band.

Collins Illuminati bloodline performed pre-20th century experiments to create 'frankenstein'. Rothschilds have succeeded in producing 'synthetic' people since the Collins' attempts.(hey, how the hell we know)

Sisters-of-Light-->level before Mothers-of-Darkness.

Quintriplets MASSIVE Illuminati advantage for high level subterfuge.

UNTIL SOCIETY ADMITS THE WIDESPREAD ATROCITIES OF ADVANCED MIND-CONTROL METHODOLOGY, IT'S DANGEROUS FOR CHILDREN TO ADMIT THE GROTESQUELY HORRIFIC VICTIMIZATION EXPERIENCED DAILY.

It's time to buck the Illuminati's structured World System of the religious spirit promoting BONDAGE LOOPING.

Satanism is globally manufacturing subserviant obediance under the guise of colonialism, 'New Age' movement, war on 'terror' (truth & willpower actually)/drugs/environment, & white powdered gold's (Ormus) super-conducting highway to 'enlightenment'.

Stay tuned...crunch time approaching...

JBoy
11-12-2010, 04:38 PM
List of 'Network'/NWO abusers:

AC/DC Satanic rock band
Ade, Henry - CIA/drug dealer/ Monarch slave abuser
Aga Khan IV, H.H. Prince Karim - Satanist/leader of Ismaili Muslims
Alabama country music group - Satanists/Monarch slave handlers
Bailey, John - slave abuser
Barnes, Don - slave abuser/in co. sheriff's office
Benson, Ezra Taft - Satanist/ leader of LDS church, Church of Jesus Christ, Administration Building

Bowers, Wilber D. - Illum. Ipsimus/Monarch programmer/CIA drug dealer
Brown, Edmund G. (Jerry) Jr. - Illum. satanist/ CA politician/ slave abuser
Brown, Charlie - Air Force Intel./murderer/Monarch slave abuser
Bundy, McGeorge - Illum.
Byrd, Robert C. - Satanist/programmer/W. VA senator
Clinton, Hillary - Illum. witch/slave handler
Cochran, Hank - CIA drug kingpin
Cox, Wayne - Satanic high priest/Monarch handler/serial killer
Dante, Michael (Michael Vitti) - Monarch slave abuser/porn maker
Day, Brad - slave abuser/coke pusher
Drake, Jim (& son) - slave abusers/porn & drug dist
Fonda, Peter
Fonda, Jane
Gavoruhk, John - police chief working for Illum. protecting monarch programmers/handlers

Grace, J. Peter - business leader/Illum.
Grateful Dead - Satanic cult rock band/Illum. coke dist.
Greene, Jack - CIA/white slavery/Monarch slave abuser/country entertainer
Haggard, Merle - slave abuser/country singer
Hestbeck, Vaugn - Monarch abuser/Danish coke. dist.
List of 'Network'/NWO abusers (cont'd):

Hope, Bob-->slave owner/slave handler with intel. agencies
Houston, Alex-->Satanist/Monarch programmer
Hummell, Ed-->Monarch programmer
Humperdink, Englebert
King Juan Carlos I-->King of Spain/Illum.
KISS Satanic rock band
Kissinger, Henry-->Illum./P2 Freemason
Kreskin-->occultist
Lang, Velton-->white slavery/drug running
Lewis, Jerry Lee-->Monarch programmer/musician
MacLaine, Shirley-->actress/author/'New Age' occultist
Madonna-->Satanist/Monarch slave
Manson, Charles-->Satanist/Monarch slave & handler
Martin, Diane-->CIA drug dealer/Monarch abuser
McKee, Lloyd-->drug dealer/Monarch abuser
McQuinn, Mike-->slave handler/money launderer
Meadows, Hal-->Dir. of CIA's near-death programming center (Swiss Villa Ampetheater)
Merrit, Jeff-->CIA drug runner/slave abuser
Mitterand, Francois Maurice Marie-->Illum./close to Rothschilds/Pres. of France
Nelson, Willie-->singer/Monarch handler
Nunn, Sam-->Illum.
O'Brien, Earl-->CIA Monarch abuser
Overstreet, Tommy-->CIA/white slavery
Parton, Dolly-->Satanist
Pope John Paul (AKA Karol Wojtyla)-->Illum./Freemason
Pride, Charley-->slave abuser/white slavery/country singer
Prophet, Ronnie-->Satanist/Monarch slave runner
Queen Beatrix (Wilhelmina Armagard)-->Illum./Queen of Netherlands
Reynolds, Dr. Herbert H.-->Illum./Univ. CEO (Baylor)
Riley, Ken-->CIA/Neo-Nazi/Loretta Lynn's handler-road manager
Rockefellar, Winthrop-->Illum. kingpin/porn dealer
Rorick, David (AKA Dave Roe)-->Satanist/white slavery
Rose, Ivan-->CIA/white slavery/Monarch abuser
Ryan, Dr. Michael N.-->Illum. doctor/slave surgery-maintenance
Smith, Dan-->car & drug dealer/slave abuser
Stevens, Jim-->Monarch abuser/drug runner
Tanis, Bob-->CIA/Air Force Intel./Monarch abuser/mafia/pornographer
Train, Russell-->Club of Rome
Trump, Donald-->Illum.
Vanderpool, Darcy-->Monarch programmer
Walker, Jimmy-->Monarch abuser/pornographer
Warlock, Billy-->actor
Westberry, Kent-->songwriter/Satanist/white slavery

Illuminati Companies (some):

-Air America; CIA front
-Cargill, Inc.;Illum. ran grain cartel
-Dungeon Masster, Desmodus Inc.;hard gay-porn/S & M publisher
-Eli Lilly & Co.;Illum. drug company
-Machinery International, Inc.; CIA front
-Rothschild Pediatric Group; Metairie/Destrehan, LA
-Southern Air Transport; CIA front
-Summit Aviation; CIA front

JBoy
11-12-2010, 05:42 PM
No, I have not been drinking !!



Dr. Jensen-->CIA programmer for Candy Jones ( birth name Jessica Wilcox & CIA alias Arlene Grant). 'Candy' received programming @ CIA's, 'The Farm', Camp Peary.

Dr. William Jennings Bryan helped in CIA programming.

Naval psychologist Lt. Comdr. Thomas Narut contributed ideas to develop mind-controlled assassins.

Dr. James monroe worked for CIA's mind-control programming.


Monarch mind-control p[rogrammers:
Morse Allen
Lt. Col. John Alexander
Richard Dabney Anderson

Michael Aquino (program cover name-->'Malcolm', AKA 'Mickey to children, Betty Ford is his mother, Illum. bloodline, married to Lilith Sinclair)

Astor
Armstrong
Bill Bennett
Wilbur Bowers (program cover name-->'Billy Boy'; a Rothschild)
Dr. William Jennings Bryan
Burcham
Burnell-Hightower
Sen. Robert C. Byrd
Dr. D. Ewen Cameron (program cover name-->'Dr. White')
Sue Harper
Joe Circo
Mark Circo
Wayne Cox
Dr. Bernard Diamond
Michael Delaney (program cover name-->'Robin Hood'; Heinrich Mueller's son)
Russell G. Frazier
Gaston
Beth George (a Rothschild)
Clair George
Dr. Sydney Gottlieb
Col. Wilson Green
John Gunter (program cover name-->'Little John')
Haggin
Harrick in Denver, Co.
Col. Height (sp?)
Lawrence Hinkle
Alex Houston
Ed Hummel
Dr. Harris Isbell
Dr. Jensen
Johnson
Steve Kilgore
Kris Kristopherson
Helga LaRouche
Hank Levine
Jerry Lee Lewis
Dr. John Lilly
Col. Manassah
Irby Mandrell
Hal Meadows
Dr. Meiers (program cover name-->'Jolly Green Giant')
Seward Prosser Mellon (program cover name-->'Governor')
Dr. Josef Mengele (program cover name-->'Dr. Green')
Dr. Joseph A. Meyer
Ted V. Mikels
Dr. James Monroe
Heinrich Mueller (program cover name-->'Dr. Blue')
Theodore (program cover name-->'Teddy Bear'; Mueller's son)
Nathan
Lt. Comdr. Thomas Narut
Dr. Martin T. Orange
Owens
Col. Tom Parker
Patterson
Pete Peterson
Ken Riley
Rockefellar
David Long Rothschild
Gut de Rothschild
Savor
Alden Sears
Dr. Star (?)
Maj. Strange
Strong
Suttenfuss
Col. Taylor
Leo Taylor
Darcy Vanderpool
Weir
Kent Westberry
Leo Wheeler (program cover name-->'Dr. Black'; a Collins)
Robert Whitlow
Harold Wolff

Country music industry perpetraitors;
involved/knowledgeable of Monarch mind-control
(most involved in CIA's drug-runninning 'Network'):

Henry Ade
Alabama band
Atlanta
Bandana
Lynn Anderson
Jerry Barlow
Boxcar Willie
Ray Burdette
Glen Cambell
Ace Canon
Dee Clark
Roy Clark
David Allen coe
Pat Corn
Helen Cornelius
Wayne Cox
Dave DeBolt
Penny Dehaven
Charlie Dick
The Drifters
Roy Drusky
Narvel Felts
The Four Guys
Rnady & Judy Gatlin
Jim Glaser
Vern Gosdin
Jack Greene
Merle Haggard
Alex Houston (& Elmer)
Englebert Humperdink
Waylon Jennings
George Jones
The Judds
Merle Kilgore
Buddy Killen
Velton Lang
Hank Levine
Jerry Lee Lewis
Ernest Ray Lynn
Ronnie Lutric
Jack MacFadden
Reggie MacLaughlin
Brent Magor
Marty Martell
George Moffet
Lorrie Morgan
Bonnie Nelson
Oakridge boys
Merril Osmund
Tommy Overstreet
Jerry & Arlene Petty
Ray Pillow
Charlie Pride
Ronnie Prophet
Jeannie Pruett
giles Reeves
Dave Roe (Rorick)
Dave Roland (& sugar)
TG Sheppard
Hank Snow
Ronnie Stoneman
Jimmy Sturr
Jimmy Swaggart
Mel Tillis
Buck Trent
LeRoy VanDyke
Jim West
Mack Vickory
Bill Walker
Charlie Walker
Jim Webb
Dottie West
Shelly West
Kent Westberry
Bobby Whitton
The Wright Brothers

CHILD ABDUCTORS:
'Chucky' (AKA 'Mike', AKA 'Peters')
-->FBI hitman in Division 5 of FBI
-->involved with inslaw case

Nichol Harrah
-->FBI agent abducting children for sacrifice

Linda Krieg
-->Satanist working for FBI

Ken Lanning
-->FBI agent abducting children for sacrifice
-->claims SRA doesn't exist

Nick O'Hara
-->FBI hitman; Satanist covering up FBI child kidnappings by murdering witnesses

Kepe Richardson
-->CIA agent abducting children for sacrifice

CIA slave handlers/drug dealers:

Pat Bowlin
Bush (Sr. & Jr.)
Sue Carper (CIA ops Dir.)
Hank Cochran (drug overlord)
Alan Dulles
Diane Martin of Hawaii
Irby mandrell (controls other family member slaves-->Barbara, Louise & Iriene)
Jim Maynard; CIA covert ops Belize
Jeff Merrit; St. Thomas, U.S. Virgin Is.
Carl Misel
Jim Mithcell
Earl O'Brien
Linda Scale
Bob Tannis; w/Air Force Intel.

JBoy
11-13-2010, 05:51 AM
MOST of this material is not mine, authors are posted . I only post...I do not research most of this !!

I try to EXPOSE these criminals


All the names of the entertainment industry ....its open on the net..they will always pop up..

Do U know Cathy 'O Brian ??? I have compassion for all that went thur and still going thur !!......
************************************************** ************************************************** **************
"Michael Aquino (program cover name-->'Malcolm', AKA 'Mickey to children, Betty Ford is his mother, Illum. bloodline, married to Lilith Sinclair ???


Betty Ford, President Gerald Ford's wife is the mother of Michael Aquino? OK, an error !!!
im not fool proof !! Lilith Sinclair correct ??
Please explain.
************************************************** ************************************************** *******************
Also, in another one of your posts, you've presented a group picture taken somewhere in the US and claim that HITLER is in this picture; alive and well in the US in 1997. I sure dont recollect that, but again, usually the author is posted..
That would mean that HITLER would have been 107 years old in that picture.If i posted that, i myself dont believe that !!! ..Ill take it down.. !!

And, what is the deal with claiming that someone who wasn't the President of the US was the President?....looks just like him !!!... how do u know it is not ?? its clear that Don Nicoloff was the author All the story From the April 2007 Idaho Observer: How can I prove that, im nobody !!! Mr Nicoloff perhaps !!!.. I say again, It SURE favors Bush sr. !!!!

Before you post any futher, answer my questions.

JBoy
11-13-2010, 06:39 AM
I do apologize, I thought this was a theroists forum ???!!!. I have learned from the history channel.. !! not being defensive at all !!!
I know BA will get the last word... and this is not an attact on BA.
I respect his/her position...

JBoy
11-13-2010, 06:43 AM
I think you've missed quite a few names.


OK, already, give um here, ill post um !!!!

JBoy
11-13-2010, 09:07 AM
BA:
U can not assume that everyone reads about u. i am new here..

I found this in a posting. We must never ASSUME !!

Now u have dileted for what ??? my threads. for you assuming...and being over what ???.. i did not mention something i knew nothing about...


Yes, they are far less credible then a women who thinks the C.I.A abducted her and (as far I gather) had Springsteen brainwash her. Oh, and said woman claims to have MPD as well. Let's see:

1) Bruce Springsteen messed with your head, hmm..sounds rational to me
2) The C.I.A, with all their involved in, just HAD to abduct you and do ghoulish things to you. I suppose that must make you feel pretty special. After all, I can honestly say I have never been abducted by Greys or had the C.I.A abduct me in their super secret "Black Helicopters" everyone knows about.

JBoy
12-04-2010, 05:23 PM
Ive been gone !!!!

Is that ur wish upon me ??
well, may ur christmas be the same !!!That sounds evil and masonic !!!.
I quoted that from someone else, i did not say anything about u. u damn nut !!!
get off of prozac. Get drunk... get well.....jingle bells up urs !!!! LOL !!!!!

JBoy
12-04-2010, 06:56 PM
Look Blue Angel.
I found that shit on u your site.. , a posting. i forgot where, u pissed someone off. i found it.. posted it. I would nevr say that !!!. I had no reason other than u deleting my threads. big deal !!!.. im not a vengeful person. masons piss me off. .. with there blabber...I wanted u to see it. though !!! others get pissed at u. im not the only one (was my point). Im sorry all that happened to u. I told u that.. I just started posting..
I knew nothing about u, including ur gender. U will find, im not going to find the post. i did not say that.
I am not not going down on anybodys record for being a cruel person.
Merry Christmas

I do know a lot... more than u..different CIA projects.. The Nazi CIA with Germans by the thousands on our military bases as i speak...

oldman60
12-18-2010, 06:17 PM
BlueAngel, I have a friend who has told me about being abused in her childhood. Her father was with the U.S. Air Force at the close of the 1940s, she suffers from dissociative disorder, and her current husband is a retired Air Force major, whom she met about 7 years ago. These would all seem like coincidences, except I went to a Memorial Day party at her place earlier this year. As with everyone else, I took paper plates, food, and utensils. She and I met alone near where I ate, and when I partook of dessert and lifted my spoon, it was bent. It had been normal when I'd had the main course. I'm wondering if her current husband is a handler. He seems too self-assured.

JBoy
12-30-2010, 02:48 PM
The Evil Behind The Music Industry (Ex-Illuminatus explains)

September 6, 2010 by POPEYE (http://www.federaljack.com/?author=7)
Filed under Occult (http://www.federaljack.com/?cat=60)


http://www.federaljack.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/ILLUMINATI-ALL-SEEING-EYE.jpg (http://www.federaljack.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/ILLUMINATI-ALL-SEEING-EYE.jpg)

http://img.youtube.com/vi/F42To4HkPtw/0.jpg YouTube - The Evil Behind The Music Industry (Ex-Illuminatus explains)

JBoy
12-30-2010, 04:16 PM
MIND CONTROL: Subliminal Sex Messages and Pornography in Advertising & Cartoons


http://www.federaljack.com/?p=16931#more-16931

JBoy
12-30-2010, 04:44 PM
How Hollywood Spreads Disinformation About Secret Societies


How Hollywood Spreads Disinformation About Secret Societies : Federal Jack (http://www.federaljack.com/?p=9274)

Dangermouse
01-02-2011, 04:28 PM
Tell me baby is he good to you? Can he do to you the things that I do? I can take you higher...

Muzz
01-03-2011, 10:39 AM
Must See New Conspiracy Website www.therealmichaelmurray.com

i dont want 2 talk
01-05-2011, 02:37 AM
mind control is the scourge of the 21st century >>>>>>>>>>>>>

peace to blue angel >> resist the cynics ;-)

okay militia mind control is evil, no probably beyond evil.... but those victims who do nothing about it are just as bad >>>>> aldous huxley quote i think....

solutions????
agree ;-),
dont listen ;-)
find other sides to the argument...
change the subject..
speak another language.....
put distance between you and your abusers...
open up a real channel of communication.. (if they listen)

hmmm sorry to take the thread down... but maybe we have to destroy them as that is all really what they want to do to their victims >>>

You must know the score ... pioneered by Nazis and developed by Gov.agencies... sh1t

peace

JudgeMathis
01-05-2011, 05:08 PM
I have contacted Judge Mathis' website on numerous occasions because there is a poster on BTX with the username, JudgeMathis, and, apparently, the REAL Judge Mathis doesn't care that this person is representing him because the member on BTX with the username JudgeMathis continues to post there.

Obviously, Judge Mathis is posting on BTX or he doesn't care that someone is impersonating him.

I wonder what Judge Judy's response would be?

You were asked by my legal representation to cease and desist this slanderous campaign. I ask you again to stop. If you choose not to I will be left with no other option than escalation.

Thank you,
Judge Mathis

ASURAISBACK
06-23-2011, 10:15 AM
Do you know if they implant binaural beats into music?

zray13fu.blogspot.com check me out?

agent_mulder
08-11-2011, 01:06 AM
NOTICE TO ALL
Please ensure all posts in this thread are related to Mind Control and the Music Industry. Any threads that stray from that, and are deemed to be deliberate will resolve in that post being removed to the trash can and the member receiving an infraction.

Please ensure that ALL Posts made within are on topic.

agent_mulder
08-11-2011, 03:49 AM
Are you talking about:
What becomes of the broken hearted?

As I walk this land of broken dreams,
I have visions of many things.
Love's happiness is just an illusion,
Filled with sadness and confusion.
What becomes of the broken hearted
Who had love that's now departed?
I know I've got to find
Some kind of peace of mind
Maybe.
The fruits of love grow all around
But for me they come a tumblin' down.
Every day heartaches grow a little stronger,
I can't stand this pain much longer!
I walk in shadows,
Searching for light.
Cold and alone,
No comfort in sight.
Hoping and praying for someone to care,
Always moving and goin' nowhere.
What becomes of the broken hearted
Who had love that's now departed?
I know I've got to find,
Some kind of peace of mind.
Help me..
I'm searching though I don't succeed,
For someone's love, there's a growing need.
Oh, he is lost, there's no place for beginning,
All that's left is an unhappy ending.
Now what becomes of the broken-hearted
Who had love that's now departed?
I know I've got to find,
Some kind of peace of mind,
I'll be searching everywhere,
Just to find someone to care.
I'll be looking everyday,
I know I'm gonna find a way.
Nothings gonna stop me now,
I'll find a way somehow.
I'll be searching everywhere...

EireEngineer
08-11-2011, 04:53 PM
So, what's the deal?

You like Bruce Springsteen's pedophilia song?
Only a song about pedophilia if you dont listen to the song or know what what a colloquialism is.

EireEngineer
08-23-2011, 05:29 PM
Both "Little girl" and "daddy" are colloquialisms for a woman and a male significant other or boyfriend, especially in the vernacular of Springsteen's generation.:D

DrIanWood
08-29-2011, 07:28 PM
Now a days the connection between the Illuminati and Hip Hop's satanic
messages through imagery are far beyond obvious. I've been intrigued
as well as skeptical about the whole thing, I may have very well been
"hood winked." I began to look deeper into this and have noticed many
strange patterns in who became popular at what times and what
transitions their image went through around that time. When I began
to really do my homework my results we're astounding. I was able to
correlate some of hip hop's biggest stars such as: Eminem, Fat Joe,
Nas, Kanye West, Rick Ross and Lil Wayne. This worried me to death
considering my 15 year son listens to more than half of these artists.
Not to mention the new ones such as Tyler the Creator and Kadeve who
is named after Egyptian Kings. The undeniable amount of praise to the
Egyptian Sun God Amon Ra is becoming extremely difficult to disregard
as conspiracy. My question: What is the reasoning and main agenda of
this? Should we really be concerned with the subliminal messages our
children could be receiving through the music? Or am I just a nut job
conspiracist now?


http://soundcloud.com/kadeve-daking/kadeve-hood-anthem-ft-maad (http://soundcloud.com/kadeve-daking/kadeve-hood-anthem-ft-maad%5B/url%5D)

EyeTruthTv
11-14-2011, 09:53 AM
Part 1: The Truth On The Illuminati! (1/2) - YouTube

Also,

http://www.youtube.com/user/EyeTruthTv?feature=mhee#p/u/0/XP0uET_SWEk

This man explains the truth behind the illuminati along with other conspiracies.

Check him out, he'll answer your questions if you
ask him and stuff.

Subscribe to him as well and share to spread the word!

youtube.com/EyeTruthTv

nikosanonimos
03-04-2012, 10:26 AM
Anonymous EXPOSED in 410 PHOTOS

check these albums
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love2
03-05-2012, 09:12 AM
Now a days the connection between the Illuminati and Hip Hop's satanic
messages through imagery are far beyond obvious. I've been intrigued
as well as skeptical about the whole thing, I may have very well been
"hood winked." I began to look deeper into this and have noticed many
strange patterns in who became popular at what times and what
transitions their image went through around that time. When I began
to really do my homework my results we're astounding. I was able to
correlate some of hip hop's biggest stars such as: Eminem, Fat Joe,
Nas, Kanye West, Rick Ross and Lil Wayne. This worried me to death
considering my 15 year son listens to more than half of these artists.
Not to mention the new ones such as Tyler the Creator and Kadeve who
is named after Egyptian Kings. The undeniable amount of praise to the
Egyptian Sun God Amon Ra is becoming extremely difficult to disregard
as conspiracy. My question: What is the reasoning and main agenda of
this? Should we really be concerned with the subliminal messages our
children could be receiving through the music? Or am I just a nut job
conspiracist now?


http://soundcloud.com/kadeve-daking/kadeve-hood-anthem-ft-maad (http://soundcloud.com/kadeve-daking/kadeve-hood-anthem-ft-maad%5B/url%5D) your not a not job...what you are seeing and hearing is correct...differently not good for the children and yes its with the hip hop and the pop

love2
03-05-2012, 09:23 AM
Part 1: The Truth On The Illuminati! (1/2) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xs4V7zLgw5A&feature=channel_video_title)

Also,

EyeTruthTv's Channel - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/user/EyeTruthTv?feature=mhee#p/u/0/XP0uET_SWEk)

This man explains the truth behind the illuminati along with other conspiracies.

Check him out, he'll answer your questions if you
ask him and stuff.

Subscribe to him as well and share to spread the word!

youtube.com/EyeTruthTvnice vid...yep sounds correct..however i had know idea about princess di...

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redrat11
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I would like to say that Blue Angel-whoever she is, was 100% Correct! Everything about the Music Industry is being LAID BARE for all to see. ONLY a Imbecile would think otherwise, this is not to say that there are in fact alot of decent music artist who HAVE NOT sold there soul to the DEVIL.

Moderators should allow BA back to enlighten humanity regarding the music industry.


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Christian artists skip, walk out of ‘satanic’ Grammy Awards show

Scantily-clad singers, same-sex “marriages” set to anti-Christian lyrics, simulated sex acts and a performance full of demonic imagery by pop star Katy Perry were just a few on-stage stunts that seemed designed to offend Christian believers.BY KIRSTEN ANDERSEN

LOS ANGELES, January 28, 2014 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Sunday night’s Grammy Awards show was all about shock value.* Scantily-clad singers, same-sex “marriages” set to anti-Christian lyrics, simulated sex acts and a performance full of demonic imagery by pop star Katy Perry – who used to be Christian artist Katy Hudson – were just a few of the on-stage stunts that seemed custom-designed to offend Christian believers.While most of the industry insiders in attendance cheered the provocative displays, at least a few decided they’d had enough, as one Christian nominee walked out in the middle of the show, and one Grammy award winner refused to show up at all.“We left the Grammys early,” Christian gospel singer Natalie Grant announced via Twitter. “I’ve many thoughts, most of which are probably better left inside my head. But I’ll say this: I’ve never been more honored to sing about Jesus and for Jesus. And I’ve never been more sure of the path I’ve chosen.”After social media caught fire over Grant’s decision to walk out of the show, with many homosexuals accusing her of ‘hate,’ Grant responded via*Facebook.“I NEVER said I left during any particular performance,” Grant wrote. “I only said I left early. I never pointed out any one particular performance, I only said I had many thoughts about the entire show, which were best left inside my head and that is where they will stay. So those who say I condemned one performance but then condoned others clearly did not read the post.”“I will never stand on a street corner and wave a sign, I won't use my platform to engage in political arguments that will only divide and not unite,” she said. “I do have my own personal convictions that I live by, and I will continue to work out my own salvation with fear and trembling before the Lord. (Philippians 2:12)”Christian singer-songwriter Mandisa won two Grammys for "Best Christian Contemporary Music Album" and "Best Contemporary Christian Music Song", but she was not in attendance Sunday night.* *“Both times I have gone to the Grammys I have witnessed performances I wish I could erase from my memory, and yes, I fast forwarded through several performances this year,” the artist explained in aFacebook post.* “I knew that submerging myself into an environment that celebrates those things was risky for me at this time.”“Perhaps being alone with [Jesus] as my name was announced was protecting myself from where my flesh would have tried to drag me had I been up on that stage,” she added.Neither artist specified exactly which performances offended them, but a likely contender was Perry’s performance of “Dark Horse,” which featured the ex-Christian singer performing what appeared to be witchcraft as she pole danced around an inverted broom, surrounded by flames and demons.* Perry’s performance gave even the secular media pause, as E! Online*tweeted, “Um, did we just witness actual witchcraft during Katy Perry's #Grammys performance?”Other possible sources of concern for Christian viewers and attendees included Macklemore’s performance of the homosexual anthem “Same Love” – during which 33 couples, many of them gay and lesbian,*got legally married*in a ceremony officiated by Queen Latifah while Perry caught the bouquet – and a performance early in the evening by husband-wife duo Beyoncé and Jay-Z in which Beyoncé wore little more than a thong leotard and simulated sex acts with a chair, her husband, and herself.Even celebrities who didn’t attend the awards commented on the inappropriate displays.*“Is it just me or are some of the Grammy performances so far seem to be really demonic?? [sic]”*tweetedformer University of Alabama quarterback A.J. McCarron.* “Looks like there is a lot of evil in the world.”Conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh*agreed, quoting McCarron on his show Monday and adding, “It was horrible, it was despicable.”* He slammed the awards show for featuring Katy Perry “dressed as a witch and burned at the stake” and criticized Macklemore’s lyrics, which “openly attacked right-wing conservatives and Christians.”

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Do you people need more proof?


http://vigilantcitizen.com/musicbusiness/2014-grammy-awards-still-pushing-illuminati-agenda/

The 2014 Grammy Awards: Still Pushing the Illuminati Agenda

The 2014 Grammy Awards featured a black magic witchcraft ritual disguised as a Katy Perry performance. Surprised? You shouldn’t be. This has been going on for years. We’ll look at the Illuminati Agenda pushed in the 2014 Grammy Awards.


This year’s Grammy Awards apparently had something for everyone. While old-school rockers might have enjoyed seeing Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr, Willie Nelson and Metallica performing live, it is the current industry puppets who reach the youth. And it is their performances that are riddled with symbolism and messages. Unlike the older singers, the performances given by Beyoncé, Katy Perry, and even Mackelmore, were not strictly about the music. Their performances were vehicles to push the Illuminati-sponsored Agenda.











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redrat11
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Adele


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adele

Adele Laurie Blue Adkins[1]*MBE*(born 5 May 1988), widely known with the*mononym*Adele, is an English singer, songwriter, musician, and*multi-instrumentalist. Adele was offered a recording contract from*XL Recordings*after a friend posted her demo on*Myspace*in 2006. The next year she received the*Brit Awards*"Critics' Choice" award and won the*BBC*Sound of 2008. Her debut album,*19, was released in 2008 to commercial and critical success. It certified four times platinum in the UK, and double platinum in the US.[2][3]*Her career in the US was boosted by a*Saturday Night Liveappearance in late 2008. At the*2009 Grammy Awards, Adele received the awards for*Best New Artist*and*Best Female Pop Vocal Performance.[4]Adele released her second album,*21, in early 2011.[5][6]*The album was well received critically and surpassed the success of her début,[7]*earning the singer six*Grammy Awards*in 2012 including*Album of the Year, equalling the record for most*Grammy Awards won by a female artist in one night.[8]*The album has also led to her*receiving numerous other awards, including two*Brit Awards*and threeAmerican Music Awards. The album has been certified 16 times platinum in the UK;[2]*in the US the album has held the top position longer than any other album since 1985, and is*certified Diamond.[9][10][11]*According to the*IFPI, the album has sold over 26 million copies worldwide.[12]The success of*21*earned Adele numerous mentions in the*Guinness World Records. She is the first artist to sell more than 3 million copies of an album in a year in the UK.[13]*With her two albums and the first two singles from*21, "Rolling in the Deep" and "Someone Like You", she became the first living artist to achieve the feat of having two top-five hits in both the UK Official Singles Chart and the Official Albums Chart simultaneously since*The Beatles*in 1964.[14]With her third release from the album, "Set Fire to the Rain", which became her third number one single in the US, Adele became the first artist in history to lead the*Billboard*200 concurrently with three*BillboardHot 100 number-ones.[15]Adele is the first female in the history of the*BillboardHot 100 to have three singles in the top 10 at the same time as a lead artist, and the first female artist to have two albums in the top five of the*Billboard200 and two singles in the top five of the*BillboardHot 100 simultaneously.[16]*21*is the longest running number one album by a female solo artist on the UK and US Albums Chart.[17][18]*In 2011 and 2012,Billboard*named Adele Artist of the Year.[19][20]*In 2012, Adele was listed at number five on*VH1's 100 Greatest Women in Music,[21]*and the American magazine*Time*named Adele one of the most influential people in the world.[22]*In 2013, she received an*Academy Award*as well as a*Golden Globe Award for Best Original Song*for her song "Skyfall", written for the twenty-third*James Bond film*of the same name.[23]

Early Life


Adele Laurie Blue Adkins was born in*Tottenham, north London, England, to Penny Adkins, an English teenager, and Mark Evans, a Welshman, on 5 May 1988. Evans walked out when Adele was two, leaving her 20-year-old mother to raise her single-handedly,[24]*for which Adele has still not forgiven him.[25][26]*She began singing at age four and asserts that she became obsessed with voices.[27][28]*Adele has cited the*Spice Girls*as a major influence in regard to her love and passion for music, stating that "they made me what I am today."[29]*Adele impersonated the Spice Girls at dinner parties as a young girl.[30]*To make her look like English R&B and urban contemporary singer*Gabrielle, her mother made an eye patch with sequins, which Adele later said was embarrassing.[31]*At the age of nine, Adele and her mother, a furniture-maker and adult learning activities organiser, relocated to*Brighton.[32]Two years later, she and her mother moved back to London; first to*Brixton, and then to neighbouring district*West Norwood, in south London.[33]*West Norwood is the subject for Adele's first record, "Hometown Glory", written when she was 16.[34]*After moving to south London, she became interested inR&B*artists such as*Aaliyah,*Destiny's Child*andMary J. Blige.[35]Adele says that one of the most defining moments in her life was when she watched*Pink*perform atBrixton Academy. "It was the*Missundaztood*record, so I was about 13 or 14. I had never heard, being in the room, someone sing like that live [...] I remember sort of feeling like I was in a*wind tunnel, her voice just hitting me. It was incredible."[36][37]Aged 14, Adele discovered*Etta James*and*Ella Fitzgerald*by accident as she stumbled on the artists' CDs in the jazz section of her local music store and was struck by their appearance on the album covers.[34]*Adele states she "started listening to Etta James every night for an hour", and in the process was getting "to know my own voice."[34]*Adele graduated from the*BRIT School for Performing Arts & Technology*in Croydon in May 2006,[38]*where she was a classmate of*Leona Lewis*and*Jessie J.[1][39]Adele credits the school with nurturing her talent[40]even though at the time she was more interested in going into*A&R*and hoped to launch other people's careers.[1]


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The 2012 Grammy Awards took place in a horrible context:*the wake of the sudden, mysterious death of Whitney Houston.*The show went on nevertheless … but not without a great deal of strange symbols and events that made one thing very clear: There is a definite dark side to the entertainment business. We will look at the facts surrounding Whitney Houston’s death, the symbolic elements of the 2012 Grammy Awards (including Nikki Minaj’s ritualistic performance) and see how the ceremony turned into another mega-ritual.

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I had a feeling that in 2012 the occult agenda of the entertainment industry would be kicked in high gear. I was right: In the span of a week, the most important night in sports (the Superbowl – see the article about it*here) and music (the Grammys) were infused with ritualistic elements witnessed by millions of viewers. While the Superbowl half-time show lasted only 13 minutes, the ritual surrounding the Grammys lasted for days and its aftermath is still going on as odd facts and accounts regarding Whitney Houston continue to surface in the media.This article will list several facts and events that took place before, during and after the Grammy Awards that have a symbolic significance in the grand scheme of things. While some of the facts mentioned here might have been the result of coincidence or poor timing, they still came together in one big, classic case of*synchronicity. In other words, apparent coincidences sometimes reveal an underlying pattern behind events.“Carl Jung described synchronicity as ” the experience of two or more events that are apparently causally unrelated or unlikely to occur together by chance and that are observed to occur together in a meaningful manner. Synchronistic events reveal an underlying pattern, a conceptual framework that encompasses, but is larger than, any of the systems that display the synchronicity. Concurrent events that first appear to be coincidental but later turn out to be causally related are termed incoincident.”When we look at the facts and the occurrences surrounding Whitney Houston’s death coupled with the symbolic elements of the 2012 Grammy awards, the entire “event” has the looks of an occult ritual, complete with a blood sacrifice, a celebration and even a “re-birth”. Some of the things described below were pre-planned, while others were possibly just odd coincidences. However, the overwhelming and almost palpable energy emanating from the 2012 Grammys definitely made some things align in a synchronistic fashion. Let’s look at the most significant events that happened during that fateful weekend.

http://vigilantcitizen.com/musicbusiness/whitney-houston-and-the-2012-grammy-awards-mega-ritual/


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Strange Facts Surrounding Whitney Houston’s Death




If you read other articles on this site, you probably noticed that everything surrounding Whitney Houston’s is astonishingly on-par with other celebrity “sacrifices”. Accounts of strange events before the death, bizarre behavior of the authorities when the death was discovered, conflicting reports, vagueness surrounding the cause of the death and, to top it off, a worrying “response” from the music industry through the Grammys. Her case followed the same pattern as several other celebrity deaths that were blamed on drugs* despite many conflicting reports. As it was the case for these other celebrities, the media almost automatically launched a campaign depicting Whitney as a hopeless drug addict. Maybe she was a drug addict, but that might only be the tip of the iceberg … a symptom of the true illness that killed Whitney: the music business.

Strange Events

As in the cases of Michael Jackson, Amy Winehouse, Heath Ledger, Brittany Murphy and many others, bizarre events preceded and followed the death of Whitney Houston. After reviewing all of those accounts, one cannot help but wonder: Was Whitney’s death truly an accident or was it a deliberate sacrifice planned by “unseen forces”? While most media reports drum into people’s heads that “Whitney Houston = Drugs”, some sources reveal other details that might lead to other paths of thinking. Here’s Roger Friedman’s account of things that happened at the Beverly Hilton on February 11th:

Whitney’s Death: An Earlier Incident?

Whitney Houston’s death made for a long day’s journey into night at the Beverly Hilton. While the Clive Davis Grammy dinner had to proceed downstairs in the ballroom–with 800 guests already filing in as the news was breaking–Whitney remained in state, so to speak, in her fourth floor suite. She was not removed until just moments before the party ended–a little after midnight. She’d been in the suite, discovered in her bathtub. But there were many people in the suite when this happened at 3:50pm including her daughter Bobbi Kristina, her brother Gary, sister in law Pat Houston, and another player in this story — a nightlife friend who’d been guiding her around town the last few days as she was photographed in states of duress.What you don’t know is that around 11pm, paramedics were called back to the fourth floor. Security and police raced back to the 4th floor. A medical wheelchair with restraints was brought in through the back entrance to the hotel. Bobbi Kristina “freaked out”–well, she’d been upstairs for hours with her mother’s dead body in the next room. It was understandable. The paramedics thought they were going to to have to take her to the hospital. But calm was restored. For ten minutes, though, security cleared the entire lobby of the hotel while the concert was going on inside the ballroom. I was out there at that moment, and it was one of the strangest scenes ever.Then there’s the mysterious story of a leak that occurred the night before from Whitney’s group of suites. A man on the third floor right underneath Houston’s suite suddenly experienced water cascading into his bathroom from above at 2:30am. It wasn’t just a trickle. The man called security, then went upstairs to the fourth floor to see what was going on. He swears to me that it was Whitney’s bathtub that was overflowing. He also says that a flat screen television had been been broken–the screen was smashed. My sources at the hotel say there was*a “leak” but that it wasn’t from Whitney’s room. “They [her group] have a lot of rooms up there,” says the hotel source. My source, this man, insists that he was told it was Whitney Houston’s room. It does seem to have been part of her group of rooms.



The Number 11





When dealing with occult rituals, numerology takes on a primordial importance. In the case of Whitney Houston, the number 11 is definitely a factor. In elite occult circles, the number 11 is a “master number” (it cannot be reduced) and, because it exceeds the number 10 (the number of perfection) by 1, it is usually associated with bad foreboding and black magic. Qabbalists associate the number 11 with transgression of the law, rebellion, war, sin, sorcery and martyrdom.For this reason, the occult elite often associates mega-rituals involving sacrifice with the number 11. What was the massive mega-ritual of the modern times? September 11th – involving the Twin Towers. At what exact time do we “remember” WWI soldiers who sacrificed their lives for their rulers? At the eleventh hour of the eleventh day of the eleventh month – Veterans Day, aka Remembrance Day.Going further than the date of her death, another link associates Whitney and her death with Lady Gaga and previous Grammy awards. As some know, Lady Gaga had close ties with fashion designer Alexander McQueen, who was no stranger to occult and mind control symbolism in his work. McQueen died on February 11th, 2010.During the 2011 Grammy Awards, Gaga stated about her song “Born This Way”:“I need to thank Whitney Houston. I wanted to thank Whitney, because when I wrote ‘Born this Way,’ I imagined she was singing it – because I wasn’t secure enough in myself to imagine I was a superstar. So, Whitney, I imagined you were singing ‘Born This Way’ when I wrote it.”“Born This Way” was released on February 11th, 2011. Exactly one year later, Whitney Houston dies on February 11th, 2012. Did Gaga (or her handlers) know something that the rest of us didn’t? Her outfit evidently shows that death was on her mind. Another little fact: Whitney’s room number was 434 – which in Qabbalistic numerology equals 11 (4+3+4).

Statements from Industry Veterans



Who is better placed than artists who have worked in the music industry for years to provide insightful takes on the death of Whitney Houston? They obviously do not hold the ultimate truth and they might just be trying to make sense of things like the rest of us, but they have first -and experience when it comes to the workings of the music industry.During an interview on Good Morning America, industry giant Celine Dion bluntly blamed the “bad influence” of show business for Whitney’s death. She even stated that you “have to be afraid” of show business.“It’s just really unfortunate that drugs, bad people or bad influence took over. It took over her dreams.* It took over her love and motherhood. When you think about Elvis Presley and Marilyn Monroe and Michael Jackson and Amy Winehouse, to get into drugs like that, for whatever reason. Is it because of the stress and bad influence? What happens when you have everything? What happens when you have love, support, the family, motherhood? You have responsibilities of a mother and then something happens and it destroys everything. That’s why I don’t do parties and I don’t hang out. That’s why I’m not part of show business. We have to be afraid. I’ve always said you have to have fun and do music and you can never be part of show business because you don’t what it’s going to get yourself into. You have to do your work and get out of there.”- Source: Vancouver SunIs Celine Dion’s avoidance of show business the reason she manages to be relatively scandal-free?Another legendary diva, Chaka Khan, was even more direct when explaining the true cause of Whitney’s death. During an interview with Piers Morgan, she stated:“I think we all, as artists, because we’re highly sensitive people, and this machine around us, this so-called ‘music industry,’ is such a demonic thing. It’s sacrifices people’s lives and their essences at the drop of a dime … I had a manager once say to me, ‘ You know you’re worth more money dead than alive.’I mean, I’ve cried for her, a lot over the years, so many times. In a way I’ve mourned her, because I felt something was gonna happen because she was so close to the wire.”- Source:*EonlineWas Chaka Khan exaggerating when using the terms “demonic” and “sacrifice” when describing the music industry? Judging by the symbolism found at the Grammy awards, she was probably right on the dot.

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US jazz musicians were drafted into the CIA’s MKULTRA
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by Jon Rappoport

US Jazz musicians were drafted into CIA’s MKULTRA

by Jon Rappoport

March 24, 2014

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Here is a bit of US history that shows the reach of the CIA’s infamous mind-control program, MKULTRA.

During the 1940s and 50s, it was common knowledge that musicians who were busted for drug use were shipped, or volunteered to go, to Lexington, Kentucky. Lex was the first Narcotics Farm and US Health Dept. drug treatment hospital in the US.

According to diverse sources, here’s a partial list of the reported “hundreds” of jazz musicians who went to Lex: Red Rodney, Sonny Rollins, Chet Baker, Sonny Stitt, Howard McGhee, Elvin Jones, Zoot Sims, Lee Morgan, Tadd Dameron, Stan Levey, Jackie McLean.

It’s also reported that Ray Charles was there, and William Burroughs, Peter Lorre, and Sammy Davis, Jr.

It was supposed to be a rehab center. A place for drying out.

But it was something else too. Lex was used by the CIA as one of its MKULTRA centers for experimentation on inmates.

The doctor in charge of this mind control program was Harris Isbell. Ironically, Isbell was, at the same time, a member of the FDA’s Advisory Committee on the Abuse of Depressant and Stimulant Drugs.

Isbell gave LSD and other psychedelics to inmates at Lex.

At Sandoz labs in Switzerland, Dr. Albert Hofmann, the discoverer of LSD, also synthesized psilocybin from magic mushrooms. The CIA got some of this new synthetic from Hofmann and gave it to Isbell so he could try it out on inmates at Lex.

MKULTRA was a CIA program whose goal was to control minds…in part through the use of drugs.

Isbell worked at Lex from the 1940s through 1963. It is reported that in one experiment, Isbell gave LSD to 7 inmates for 77 consecutive days. At 4 times the normal dosage. That is a chemical hammer of incredible proportions.

To induce inmates to join this drug experiment, they were offered the drug of their choice, which in many cases was heroin. So at a facility dedicated to drying out and rehabbing addicts, addicts were subjected to MKULTRA experiments and THEN a re-establishment of their former habit.

Apparently as many as 800 different drugs were sent to Isbell by the CIA or CIA fronts to use on patients at Lex. Two of the fronts? The US Navy and the US National Institute of Mental Health.

In another MKULTRA experiment at Lex, nine men were strapped down on tables. They were injected with psilocybin. Lights were beamed at their eyes–a typical mind control component.

During Isbell’s tenure, no one knows how many separate experiments he ran on the inmates. No one knows what other mind-control programming he attempted to insert along with the drugs.

As I say, Lex was the main stop for drying out for NY jazz musicians. How many of them were taken into these MKULTRA programs?

As Martin Lee explains in his book, Acid Dreams, “It became an open secret…that if the [heroin] supply got tight [on the street], you could always commit yourself to Lexington, where heroin and morphine were doled out as payment if you volunteered for Isbell’s whacky drug experiments. (Small wonder Lexington had a return rate of 90%.)”

A June 15, 1999, Counterpunch article by Alexander Cockburn and Jeffrey St. Clair, “CIA’s Sidney Gottlieb: Pusher, Assassin & Pimp— US Official Poisoner Dies,” contains these quotes on Dr. Isbell:

“Gottlieb also funded the experiments of Dr. Harris Isbell. Isbell ran the Center for Addiction Research in Lexington, Kentucky. Passing through Isbell’s center was a captive group of human guinea pigs in the form of a steady stream of black heroin addicts. More than 800 different chemical compounds were shipped from Gottlieb to Lexington for testing on Isbell’s patients.

“Perhaps the most infamous experiment came when Isbell gave LSD to seven black men for seventy-seven straight days. Isbell’s research notes indicates that he gave the men ‘quadruple’ the ‘normal’ dosages. The doctor marveled at the men’s apparent tolerance to these remarkable amounts of LSD. Isbell wrote in his notes that ‘this type of behavior is to be expected in patients of this type.’

“In other Gottlieb-funded experiment at the Center, Isbell had nine black males strapped to tables, injected them with psylocybin, inserted rectal thermometers, had lights shown in their eyes to measure pupil dilation and had their joints whacked to test neural reactions.”

BlueAngel
04-12-2015, 05:06 PM
[QUOTE=redrat11;83698]I would like to say that Blue Angel-whoever she is, was 100% Correct! Everything about the Music Industry is being LAID BARE for all to see. ONLY a Imbecile would think otherwise, this is not to say that there are in fact alot of decent music artist who HAVE NOT sold there soul to the DEVIL.

Moderators should allow BA back to enlighten humanity regarding the music industry.


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Just so you know, my banishment expired years ago.

BlueAngel
04-23-2015, 04:27 PM
Celebrities under Mind Control

http://freemantv.com/celebrities-under-mind-control-release-the-stars-weird-stuff/

Release the Stars!

If you believe that slavery is a thing of the past, you are still a slave. The continuity of the practice of slavery on planet earth is staggering. The idea of owning another person is as old as civilization itself, going all the way back to ancient Sumer. Predating all other forms of coerced labor, not only is it ancient, but it is oh, so contemporary...and fashionable!

When Bob Marley sings about slavery, he calls it the Babylon System and hits the nail on the head. The Bible calls Nimrod, the King of Babylon “a great hunter before the Lord." According to archeology and biblical context, the word “hunter” translates to plunderer or conqueror. Nimrod was immortalized not for his skill in hunting beasts, but in the success of his slave trading and the hunting of men to establish his imperial kingdom of tyranny. Nimrod hunted men and brought them into bondage to Babylon and forced them to build him a great tower to piss off Yahweh. The foundation of Babylonian society was the slave population; the necessary component of all mass economic activity. The sources of their slave supply were endless. Military conquests furnished many; others had fallen from the position of free laborers; still others were purchased from abroad, or were children of native slaves. Nimrod's Babylon is associated with slavery, military and economic power, seduction, and worship of the state.

If you want to see the Babylon system at work today, look no further than Hollywood. Every year the Academy Awards are held in the heart of downtown Hollywood at the Kodak Center. Adjacent to the theater is the Hollywood and Highland Center called the Babylon Courtyard. Its décor is taken straight from a 1916 movie about ancient Babylon called Intolerance. Four story columns topped with standing elephants surround an archway depicting two curious characters. The figure on the left holding the basin of water is Enki, one of the Annunaki brothers who were gods of the ancient Sumerians that came to earth to genetically engineer a slave race. Enki is also known as Ea and is usually distinguished from other gods by two streams of water erupting from his body, or from a pot held in his hands. The figure on the right is the Assyrian god, Nisroch. Both of these gods were usually depicted holding a pinecone like object, believed to be an ancient depiction of the pineal gland, however, in the Hollywood version the glands are strangely absent.

The most famous of slaves were the Jews of Babylon, so it is ironic that their own empire of Hollywood is founded on slavery. During Hollywood’s golden age of the 1920’s and 1930’s, major studios spent a considerable amount of money to help locate, establish, and groom their legendary celebrities. The studio did as much as possible, even dictating social activities and personal relationships to ensure proper exposure of their best stars. The process of becoming a star invaded every aspect of a person's life. These actors essentially became the property of the studio once they signed a contract. Remember, the foundation of black magic is the pact or contract. Actors and actresses operated on strict contracts and this situation kept the power in the studio's hands. An actor's contract also entitled the studio to assign them to any role it chose, as well as loan out its stars to other production companies. Because of this, stars very often found themselves playing roles they weren't too crazy about. Actors of the studio really had no power or control over their own careers; their futures were at the mercy of the studio that signed them. With strategic planning and decision making that took place at the highest levels of studio management, they built unknowns into household names.

Babylon’s legacy of blood sacrifice, human trafficking and slavery has been handed down through the generations. It exists today through a practice of slaves creating slaves called trauma-based mind control victims. Survivor of generational Satanic ritual abuse, Jay Parker, recalls a story his mother once told him about the Statue of Liberty. She told Jay that it was, in fact, Semiramis, wife of Nimrod. She said that their tradition of ritual abuse to create slaves was the religion with no name, “the old religion” from the time of Babylon.

Today, if an artist wants to “make it” or have their art shared with the rest of the world, there are many gatekeepers and processes of dark initiation that they must pass through. Many times artists, through their work, spell out exactly what they must go through in the name of fame. In her thirteen minute music video, Marry the Night, Lady Gaga explains, in an artistic way, the trauma she is made to endure to become a super star. In the beginning, Gaga delivers a monologue that defines the plight of a mind control victim. While lying on a stretcher that is pushed by two nurses, she describes the way she perceives reality and only by escaping into her own world is she able to go on:

“When I look back on my life, it’s not that I don’t want to see things exactly as they happen, it’s just that I prefer to remember them in an artistic way. And truthfully, the lie of it all is much more honest, because I invented it. Clinical psychology arguably tells us that trauma is the ultimate killer. Memories are not recycled like atoms and particles in quantum physics. They can be lost forever. It’s sort of like my past is an unfinished painting and, as the artist of that painting, I must fill in all the ugly holes and make it beautiful again. It’s not that I’ve been dishonest, it’s just that I loathe reality.”

The creepy nurse that attends to Gaga after her trauma session says, “I remember when I delivered you.” A clue about how slaves are conditioned from birth from inside their circle of friends and family. When the camera pans out, it shows that Gaga is not alone. She is in a ward filled with victims who are going through the same conditioning. In the video, the transformation from the real Stefani to her alter, Lady Gaga, is symbolized by the dying of her hair blonde. Ritual abuse survivor and Mother of Darkness, Arizona Wilder, explains that the dark occultists prefer their ritual goddesses blonde. In the context of the video, the expression “marry the night” takes on a metaphysical meaning. Marriage is a binding religious ritual. To marry the night means that Gaga is bonded to the elite occult slave masters and embraces her own “dark side”.

The Britney Chronicles

Britney Spears’ career is a perfect case study of trauma-based mind control in the entertainment industry. From Lolita/kitten themes to group sex to Mars and clone labs, practically every aspect of MK ULTRA programming can be witnessed in her career. When her music videos are watched in chronological order, they tell a horrific story of never ending enslavement.

Britney has been a performer since her childhood days of Disney’s Mouseketeers and won many pageants and talent competitions in the vein of Toddlers and Tiaras. Her 1998 first hit single, Hit Me Baby One More Time, is an obvious reference to physical abuse and identification with her handler and she appears in a uniform similar to a catholic schoolgirl.

The Babylonian Mystery Religion eventually became the Roman Catholic Church and factions of the church are at the root of the mind control network. Survivor Cathy O’Brien’s formal induction as a presidential model mind controlled slave began with her first Holy Communion where she was given the “Rite to Remain Silent.” She received a Rosy Cross necklace which would lead her through the rest of her mind controlled existence. Her abuser told her he worked for the Vatican and now, so did she. The Rite to Remain Silent is anchored in the “Vow of Silence” performed by the Jesuit monks. At the end of the music video Britney awakens from her disassociation to find that the entire scenario was all in her imagination. This becomes a common theme in many of her videos.

In the 1999 video, You Drive Me Crazy, Britney co-stars with Nickelodeon star, Melissa Joan Hart otherwise known as Sabrina the Teenage Witch. The setting is a factory for mass producing slaves. Common lyrics of her songs include the mind control themes of being lonely, losing her mind, losing her senses or going crazy. That same year she released Born to Make You Happy – a reference to the generational programming that usually begins before birth. The video opens with Britney dreaming/disassociating on a bed made of two cubes. She’s wearing a shirt covered in Monarch butterflies. In the world of dark occultism, the double cube, or hypercube represents an inescapable prison and the butterflies represent the genetic memories pass through the bloodline. Britney is related to Laura Bush, after all.

In 2000, Britney’s masters released the video, Oops I Did it Again, in which Britney is shown laying on a bed made of two eight-pointed stars that represent Inanna/Ishtar, the goddess of Babylon. Sacred Prostitution and hermaphroditic bodies and feminine men were particularly involved in the worship and ritual practices of Inanna's temples. Inanna, Sumer’s “Queen of Heaven”, unlike any other deity, has the ability to descend into the netherworld and return again to the heavens. Many girls in the industry are led from innocence to the pit of Hell, and “back again” in honor of Inanna. The interlude of the this video is the most bizzare. An astonaugt meets Britney and she removes his helmet and to his surprise there is an atmosphere on Mars! He hands her a chunk of black stone. Britney exclaims, "But I thought the old lady dropped it into the ocean in the end?"-- a reference the Heart of the Ocean necklace from Titanic. The astronaut says, "Well baby, I went down and got it for you." In the Babylonian story of creation, the god Marduk battles the goddess Tiamat, who is the ocean deified. She is often seen to represent a female principle, whereas Marduk stands for the male principle. Marduk is victorious, kills Tiamat, and creates the world from her body.

As mega rituals were unfolding in 2001, Britney Spears blatantly sang I’m A Slave 4 U declaring once and for all who is controlling her. At her VMA performance of the song, she dances with a giant python on her shoulders. Scenes from a black mass of the Church of Satan look strikingly similar. In 2003, Britney became a fully grown woman and an industry veteran when she teamed up with Madonna to sing Me Against the Music, another video that ends with her waking up from disassociation. Her “consecration” into the Babylonian industry was celebrated in a symbolic performance during the 2003 VMAs, alongside fellow Mouseketeer, Christina Aguilera, where the two were wed to “Hollywood” by the Kabbalistic High Priestess, Madonna.

In her very next video, Toxic (2004) she appears as many different characters while playing a spy in some sort of weird espionage scenario. In mind control victims, the Delta alters are programmed to carry out assignments such as assassinations. Lady Gaga continues this assassination theme in her video, Paparazzi, when she poisons her boyfriend to death while dressed in a Mickey Mouse costume.

In the 2004 video, Everytime, Britney is shown drowning in a hotel bathtub. The scenario was chillingly close to the death of Whitney Houston at the Beverly Hilton in 2012. In her bathtub scene, she is wearing a Kabbalah bracelet. According to many mind control survivors, the Tree of Life from the Kabbalah is a structure that programmers use to house different alters. When Britney ‘dies’ in the bathtub, she is born again as a baby in a hospital. Could this possibly be an Aleister Crowley Moonchild reference? Once again, at the end of the video, she wakes up as if it was all a dream.

In 2004 Britney embarked on a world tour called The Onyx Hotel. It was described as a "unique, mysterious hotel powered by an onyx stone, where guests who enter shine their own light into the gemstone and make their fantasies come to life. It's a vibrant, whimsical place where wondrous dreams are realized, and the darkest of secrets are revealed." The tour was marketed to a different demographic than her previous tours, changing from families and children to a more adult audience and the show also heavily targeted the gay market. Britney told MTV that “The onyx stone is kind of symbolic of what guides me in my life, like there's a bigger picture in everything, and there's something that guides you where you need to go.” The onyx stone has a deep occult significance. According to Fritz Springmeier’s work, The Illuminati Formula to Create an Undetectable Total Mind Control Slave, black onyx is used by the Mothers of Darkness to capture souls.

The concert begins when the master of ceremonies, a creepy, belligerent, one eyed cross between Fat Bastard and RuPaul, welcomes spectators to the Onyx Hotel. He takes an onyx and throws it into the video screens, causing a virtual chandelier to fall into the floor. Britney’s face appears on the giant screen and says “Once you check in, you can’t check out.” In a pre-recorded video interlude during the concert, Jada Pinkett Smith morphs through from another dimension to lead Britney down a dark alley to reveal a secret doorway to the “Mystic Lounge.” In the next act, there is a video interlude of Spears wearing a ribbon and flowered-themed dress and entering the "Mystic Garden". In mind control, alters are created called Ribbons, which are the beginning of the Luciferian alter-like demons. Ribbons live in the garden and guard the System’s “Garden of Eden.” They are primarily the message bearers to the different, levels and alters. The ribbons might have angelic names such as Michael or Gabriel.

In 2006, Britney posted a repeated loop of her song “Rebellion” on her website even though it was not a single. In the song, she talks of people close to her using poison and voodoo. Was this the beginning of her realization? In 2007, she released an album called Blackout just as her programming began to deteriorate. This is the same year that Britney had her infamous breakdown. Survivors report that when victims of mind control approach 30 years old, their brain attempts to break the amnesiac barriers and reintegrate itself. First, she dyed her hair dark brown. She then walked into Esther’s Hair Salon and demanded to have her head shaved. The owner told Britney that she would not shave her head and Britney took the shears and did it herself. When Arizona Wilder told David Icke of her escape from the Mothers of Darkness she said that she had dyed her hair brown to be removed as the ritual goddess of the order. When this wasn’t enough to keep her out of the rituals, she then shaved her head. When Britney was asked why she did it, she replied that she was tired of people touching her and she didn’t want them plugging things into her. She had been in and out of “rehab” before the salon incident. After she shaved her head, she checked into Promises clinic in Malibu where she terrified staff by scrawling 666 onto her bald head, screaming she was the Anti-Christ and then attempting to hang herself with a bed sheet. Nickelodeon star, Amanda Bynes, has exhibited some of the same bizarre behavior this year.

Even after all that, she had still not been able to break free, neither was she allowed to take a break. Her handlers stuck her in a blonde weave and a sparkly black bikini and sent her back on stage to lip-synch with auto-tune for her supposed "comeback" on the 2007 VMA’s.

In January 2008, TMZ.com reported: “Sources are now painting a very disturbing picture of Britney Spears, or whoever she happens to be at any given moment. We're told the whole British accent thing -- well, it's more than an accent. Britney has multiple personalities, including, as people in her life call it, "the British girl." We're told when Spears loses the British personality, she has absolutely no idea what she did during the time she assumed that personality. Sources say Brit has a number of other identities, where she becomes "the weepy girl, the diva, the incoherent girl," and on and on. Sources say Britney had become the British girl the day she didn't show for her deposition and has no recollection of it.”

Her 2008 video, Break the Ice, is an animation where Britney seems to enact some revenge on her handlers. Her character crashes an Eyes Wide Shut type Illuminati party and fights off the Men in Black. Dan Aykroyd has an interesting story that relates to the time some “Men in Black” monitored his phone call with Britney Spears. As Aykroyd spoke to his Crossroads co-star about appearing on Saturday Night Live with her, he noticed the MIBs observing him, but looked back a second later to realize that they had vanished. Two hours later, the producers of Out There, the program he was taping, were ordered to shut it all down. A coincidence until you realize that the show itself was about to set the stage for UFO disclosure. Aykroyd believed that this program was a key and motivation to socially transform the planet to a more peaceful, loving and tolerant state.

In Break the Ice, Britney finds a clone lab under the mansion where they are keeping hundreds of “Britneys” in liquid tanks. She battles the MIBs and blows up the lab. She then finds her handler, a robotic business man in a dark office and delivers a death kiss to him. That would be the second time she assassinated someone by kissing them. This video represented somewhat of a victory for Britney and ended with “To Be Continued…”

When mind control slaves begin to break their programming, their handlers will stop at nothing to get them back on track. Her victory was short lived as the press declared her insane, a drug addict, an unfit mother, and a “trainwreck”. When a slave has outlived their usefulness or poses a threat, they are assassinated or programmed to self-destruct. This is called being thrown from the Freedom Train. In interviews, Britney can be seen switching between alter personalities. She talks of being completely alone, she tries to reach out to people but they don’t understand what she is telling them. She describes her life as “groundhog day” and tearfully whispers “I’m sad.”

Her 2011 album was named Femme Fatal. Her video Hold It Against Me was directed by today’s go-to director for mind-control/occult imagery, Jonas Akerlund, who also directed Lady Gaga and Beyonce’s video about mass murder, Telephone. In Hold it Against Me, Britney is wearing a white wedding gown that gives away the ritualistic aspect of the video. It seems that she wasn’t all that successful in getting people to stop plugging things into her. In the video, she is shown attached to intravenous lines to further emphasize her mind control. While Britney is levitated, strange eyeless dancers emerge from under her gown. A quick shot of one eye with two pupils is shown for about a half of a second. The short scene is very significant, it represents the existence of multiple personalities within the same person.

Britney’s 2011 video, I Wanna Go, tells the saddest story of all. It begins as Britney gives a press conference where she declares she’s pregnant with Brad Pitt’s quintuplets. During the video she sexually harasses a fan, seduces a baby, flashes a cop in front of a child and gets searched/molested by said cop. She slaughters the paparazzi with a microphone only to find that they are programmed robots like the Terminator. She is “rescued” by a character famous for playing Guerrmo, a merciless drug lord on the HBO show Weeds. This character apparently loves convertibles, dancing girls, and 2% milk. At the end of the video she wakes up from disassociation once again to find that she’s back at the press conference. Guerrmo takes the stand with Britney saying “No more questions” to the press. Britney turns to him and says “I had the strangest dream.” He replies, “I love dreams…and sea shells” He gives Britney a handful of sea shells and leads her away. If you look up sea shells in Fritz Springmeier’s book, it explains that the “the VOW OF SILENCE is a keep quiet program activated by ‘THE WALLS HAVE EARS & THE PLANTS HAVE EYES SO YOUR SILENCE IS TANTAMOUNT TO SUCCESS.’ This is explained to the victim that the sea shells and plants have the ability to hear and that a sensitive occultist (programmer) can psychically pick up what the plants and sea shells hear.” In the end Guerrmo turns away from Britney back to the audience to deliver a maniacal laugh and reveal that he is actually a programmed robotic demon handler. She has come the full circle of innocence, victimization, realization and rebellion, but this video clearly illustrates that she is still ultimately under the control of her handlers.

Russell & Katy

More stars like Britney are struggling to break free, but they desperately need our help. Cory Feldman is outing Hollywood for pedophilia. Roseanne Barr is publicly speaking out about trauma based mind control and has become a political advocate of the legalization of marijuana for victims of post-traumatic stress disorder. Recently, British actor and comedian, Russell Brand, has had David Icke and Laura Eisenhower on his talk show. Key people with a large outreach are waking up and allowing truth to enter the mainstream media; but they need our support as they try to enlighten their audience and loved ones and sometimes, they pay a terrible price.

In October 2010 Brand married pop star Katy Perry on top of an elephant in Northern India, the same place he had proposed to her just a short time before. The marriage lasted only fourteen months. Is this just another example of Hollywood’s cavalier attitude towards commitment or are there other dark forces at work? In February 2011, Katy embarked on the largest tour of her career. The tour was described as “Alice in Wonderland” and “Wizard of Oz,” two of the most classic Monarch programming motifs. The year proved to be a tremendous success in the industry for her, but also showed a devastating personal heartbreak. Katy Perry has been identified as one of the top Illuminati princesses/slaves since her debut in I Kissed a Girl, written and produced by pop mogul, Max Martin. Martin has had his hand in just about every slave hit since the mid 90’s. He has made superstars out of the Backstreet Boys, N’Synch, Ace of Base, and Britney Spears. He revived the careers of Celine Dion and Bon Jovi. He has written for and produced Kelly Clarkson, Pink, Usher, Taylor Swift, Justin Beiber, Ke$ha and many more.

The film Katy Perry: Part of Me documents the story of Perry's career as gospel singer, Katheryn Hudson, until the present day as global superstar Katy Perry. Scenes from the movie document her last world tour, the California Dreams Tour. Katy talks about her childhood, where her mother and father are traveling Pentecostal preachers, something she oddly has in common with Aleister Crowley whose parents were members of a strict Christian sect called the Plymouth Brethren. Many times, a strict Christian upbringing can bring about a serous backlash like Katy, Crowley or even Marilyn Manson. When Perry first started recording, she was paired with a team called “The Matrix” to give her a point of entry into the mainstream. They eventually dropped her and she later went on to sign with Capitol Records.

Before fame, Katy sang gospel and Christian rock until one day she somehow made that age-old deal. According to one interview, Katy states: “When I was 15, because I grew up in a household where all I ever did was listen to gospel music…I swear I wanted to be, like, the Amy Grant of music, but it didn’t work out, and so I sold my soul to the devil.” It seems that Katy got the raw end of the deal when the devil turned out to be a literal slave driver. The tour for her album was no joke. It ran a whopping 124 shows in 108 cities in 337 days.

The show begins with a video screen introduction which tells the story of a girl named Katy who lives in a colorless world wasting her life cutting meat for a mean old butcher. One night, Perry escapes her dreadful reality by falling asleep and visits a vibrant candy land in search for her pet cat, Kitty Purry and also for the love of her life, the Baker's Boy.

Kitten programming is classic trauma-based mind control and the most widely used program. This programming is specifically for eliminating the learned moral convictions that Katy grew up with. It stimulates the primitive instincts devoid of inhibitions. This program is for developing the “ultimate prostitute.” In the first number, Katy appears on stage and starts performing Teenage Dream, while wearing a white dress with hypnotic spinning peppermints. In one interlude, Perry is shown taking a shortcut that leads her into a candy forest where she meets two naughty mimes who join her to perform a song called Ur So Gay. At the end of the performance, Perry takes a bite of their magical brownie. In the next section, a video interlude reveals that the mimes' brownie has transformed Perry into a catwoman, a plan executed by the evil butcher all along. A song called Circle the Drain is performed while Perry battles her dancers who are dressed as butchers before going into her song about love with inter-dimensional reptilian beings, E.T. The show continues with Who Am I Living For in which she is strapped up by her dancers with elastic strings and is left on the ground defeated. The encore begins with the final interlude of the show, which reveals that Perry has been dreaming/disassociating all along, suddenly the Baker's Boy enters her room dressed in a gingerbread costume to deliver cupcakes she has ordered for breakfast.

During her marriage to Russell, most of which she spent on her California Dreams tour, the mandate from Katy was to tour for two weeks and then take three or four days off to spend with Russell. Her handlers sabotaged this at every chance. To see Russell, Katy would fly across the world, to New York, L.A., New Orleans…wherever Russell was, just to spend time with him. In the documentary, she runs herself ragged trying to get to where he is. She was committed to him and she describes him as the love of her life. Around day 214 of her tour, Katy looks exhausted as she asks to see a calendar so she can look for her “relationship days,” days she had planned to spend with Russell. Her handlers tell her that she should be resting on her days off, not trying to see her husband. During her stop in Sao Paulo, Brazil, Katy is shown weeping backstage. Her handlers attempt to cheer her up by giving her a gift from her “trinkets box” which upsets her even more, it was a necklace given to her by Russell that she thought she had lost. She is still crying heavily until the moment her platform raises her to the stage. When the peppermints start to spin, she puts on her bravest smile for the crowd.

In December, 2011, Russell filed for divorce in Los Angeles citing irreconcilable differences. The pair met when he was filming Get Him to the Greek, and she did a cameo with him. Katy recalls being so happy to be working with Russell that she was hopping like a bunny. Kevin Smith appeared on Russell Brand’s show and told the story from his point of view. One day Russell showed up at Smith’s house to work on a project but he could not concentrate because he had just met the most amazing woman. Kevin was so touched he had to give Russell the day off to go and be with her. There is no doubt that Russell and Katy were very much in love, so what went wrong? Given Russell Brand’s recent taste in guests it is safe to say that he has at least some sense of reality and a quest for the truth. Is this why Katy’s handlers tried so hard to keep them apart? Was Russell feeding her information that the powers didn’t want her to be aware of because they needed her to help program the masses? According to interviews Katy Perry was having a profound positive effect on Russell as well—something the controlling occultists could not tolerate. Katy told Esquire Magazine that she had reformed the former sex addict, who according to rumors used to sleep with up to 80 women a month. “He was a heroin addict and now he's not. He was addicted to all kinds of things and now he's not. And he basically used to be a professional prostitute and now he's not,” she said. Brand also seemed to be perfectly comfortable with monogamy. "I am living in a different way at the moment. Regardless of what happens in my current situation," he said. "I am unlikely to be satisfied with the calamitous promiscuity of the preceding five or six years." He went on to say that monogamy is not the only change he's made since getting sober, he was living a much healthier life overall. "I'm living in a disciplined way, do lots of yoga, exercise and transcendental meditation.”

After the divorce, in interviews of Katy, the mere mention of Russell puts her in tears instantly. Her fairy tale had been destroyed. Her 2012 hit, Wide Awake, (another Max Martin song) conceals many references to Monarch programming within its symbolism. It is a story of her thinking she has “woken up” and escaped, but in the end we find the story conveys that this is never possible.

At the beginning of the video, we see Katy completing the filming of her single California Gurls, which is based on the board game, Candyland. This candy theme is no doubt part of Katy’s personal Monarch programming and Candyland appears in a list of internal structures found in recovering mind controlled slave, Cisco Wheeler. In the beginning of Wide Awake, Katy is fully into her “pop star” persona. When she enters her dressing room, she removes her wig, which symbolically represents her switching to another alter.

Katy then stares at herself in the mirror for a while until she begins to dissociate from reality and enter a fantasy world. This is the inner-world of her psyche and it is a dark labyrinth. She knows that she won’t make it through the maze without the one who has been stripped from her during the programming--her core persona. Through lights emerging from her breasts, she makes a call for help and her core appears before her in the form of a young Katy. It is the “real her” before her values and convictions were taken away. The little girl is the personality she had before being subjected to programming. Katy and her core then enter a room designed in classic Monarch trigger decor and her dress is made of butterflies. Through the mirror, she sees the evil paparazzi.

Katy breaks the mirror in front of her and leaves the room, a symbolic act representing her attempting to break out of her programming. Then next scene is a ghoulish contrast to the rest of the video. She is now in a cold, sterile mental institution similar to the institution we see in Gaga’s Marry the Night. We appear to be out of Katy’s head and back to reality. She is completely “shut down” sitting in a wheel chair. Is this her MK programming site? While Katy is immobilized, little Katheryn, is “Wide Awake” and is determined to get them out of there.

Upon escaping the institution, Katy and her core persona find themselves back in the fantasy land. A cat with hypnotic eyes is a reminder that she is still one of their “kittens” and under the control of her handlers. The butterflies on Katy’s head also symbolize this. Katy then “defeats” her fairy tale prince charming by delivering a powerful punch. Was this supposed to be Russell? At this point, little Katheryn gets on her bike and leaves. The core, authentic persona of Katy says goodbye and leaves in her place only a butterfly. The butterfly leads from the dressing room to a stage, before a performance of the song Teenage Dreams. Katy has also gone full circle and is back at the beginning, in her pop star persona, who she really is now. The real Katy has disappeared and she is merely a puppet of the music industry and a mind controlled slave. Wide Awake represents the false rebellion that so many others like Britney Spears went through, but ended up right back in slavery. At this time, Perry is halfway done with her new album called Schizophrenic. In one final twist, it seems the devil has left his mark on Russell Brand’s career as well. According to Aleister Crowley’s system of sorcery, the symbol for Russell’s show, Brand X, is the actual Mark of the Beast!

Like so many other things in life, when it comes to slavery, it takes one to make one. A true free and sovereign person would have no use for slaves. The programming really is like an infinite train, or a virus, where slaves are programmed to be handlers and programmers to create more slaves. The kings and priest craft of Babylon, were themselves, slaves to their gods. The duties of their religion were an indispensable element of their life. Before their idols they came, bowing as dependents and slaves, to make their offerings of flesh and blood. Girded with burdensome restrictions, they believed that the violation of their rituals would entail disaster upon themselves and their city. On the other hand, they claimed to be as gods before their subjects and captives, demanding from them the same type of servitude and reverence.

We are all victims of trauma-based mind control to varying degrees. The rich, powerful and famous are the worst off. Their opulence and degenerative behavior is promoted in the tabloids so that we can worship and envy their lifestyle, never knowing that to obtain those things, they are yoked in absolute physical and spiritual servitude. The trauma that they endure trickles down and is expressed through their art so that everyone can be traumatized vicariously and they call it entertainment.

The creation of dissatisfaction of life in normal people is another form of trauma. Extravagant weddings, awards ceremonies and vacations are splashed around in the headlines to a population that can barely make ends meet. America’s economy is worse than ever, but it is nothing for President Obama and his family to take a trip to Africa that reportedly cost between $60 and $100 million dollars. How do you think a young, struggling single mother feels when she goes through the grocery store checkout and sees that Beyonce and Jay-Z spend $1,000,000 a year to rent nursery space in the basement of the Barclays Sports Center (probably a MK programming site) to have a place for their daughter to play while they watch the games? If you want to live like this, you must sell your soul.

Slavery dominates in Hollywood and many stars are extinguished on the path to global enslavement. Our entertainers and artists need us now more than ever to help them escape their inescapable prison. The more we research and talk about these things, the more we support their liberation and the easier it will be for them to come forward. If you really love your celebrities, share the information and let’s release the stars!

Bibliography:
Children of the Matrix, David Icke
The Two Babylons, Alexander Hislop
An Empire of Their Own: How the Jews Invented Hollywood, Neil Gabler
The Illuminati Formula to Create an Undetectable Total Mind Control Slave, Fritz Springmeier
Trance-formation of America, Cathy O’Brien & Mark Phillips
Access Denied: For Reasons of National Security, Cathy O’Brien & Mark Phillips
Aleister Crowley and the Hidden God, Kenneth Grant
Check out Mystery Inc. Book Selection
Special Thanks To: Vigilant Citizen for the chronicles of Hollywood mind control and symbolism.

Written by Jamie Hanshaw
- See more at: http://freemantv.com/celebrities-under-mind-control-release-the-stars-weird-stuff/#.dpuf

BlueAngel
04-23-2015, 04:51 PM
You must click on the link and watch the short clip of a Britney interview with Diane Sawyer.

I don't know how to import the videos and pictures.

All I can do is copy and, of course, that doesn't work for videos and pictures.

So, I promise to be gracious if someone; redratII perhaps would be so kind to instruct me or post the the video.

It's a must see.

Thanks!

Crazy, this stuff, isn't it?

redrat11
04-23-2015, 06:09 PM
You must click on the link and watch the short clip of a Britney interview with Diane Sawyer.

I don't know how to import the videos and pictures.

All I can do is copy and, of course, that doesn't work for videos and pictures.

So, I promise to be gracious if someone; redratII perhaps would be so kind to instruct me or post the the video.

It's a must see.

Thanks!

Crazy, this stuff, isn't it?




Okay, after not posting here for about 5 YEARS, It took me awhile to learn how to post pictures and videos here. Here is the best I can describe how to..

When you want to post- a BOX will appear where you type in your words and links, (simple enough so far) now within that box where you type you will see at the top 5 individual boxes and other stuff below it. Now when you want to post pictures you simply click the picture icon it has a mountain and sun in it with yellow background , when you click it- a pop up box will appear and you erase the words in it, and simply paste your picture address in it, I get my pics from any search engine under pictures search. Or if u use a photo service you still paste the link in that box. Now for youtube videos this website for some reason does not allow it because of the new link codes from youtube change every year.(I guess) So as far as youtube videos go- this a regular link from a youtube video look how it looks below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BsTF22SPyM


this is the same youtube link, but with this added at end of address


you add &sns=em at the end of the video link, sometimes it works. and video shows up,



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BsTF22SPyM&sns=em








Note-When you reply to a post or edit a post, the box where you type is plain, you have to click go advanced to get more features to make the post have more features to click to. such as pictures, quoting, bold colors, etc, etc..


when you want to quote, you simply click the QUOTE icon(right side of pictures icon) and it will show 2 boxes with ,Now in between the boxes, you then type or paste what you want in the very middle of those boxes where your computer cursor is blinking.

To add color to words click the B icon, and do the same click colors, choose any color, same thing type right in middle of all those [----] type here[---] hope that helps, took me awhile to learn.

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“Hide and Seek”: The Most Blatant Movie About Monarch Mind Control Ever?

By VC on April 4, 2013  427 Comments


[QUOTE] “Hide and Seek” is a 2005 thriller movie that did not get great reviews at the time of its release. However, chances are most critics did understand its symbolism and its underlying theme which is all about Monarch Programming. In fact, “Hide and Seek” is probably one of the most blatant movies about Monarch Mind Control in Hollywood’s history. We’ll look at the hidden meaning of the movie.



Hide and Seek is not going down in history as Robert De Niro’s most memorable movie. It was bashed by movie critics for its derivative nature and because its ending was deemed “nonsensical”. While it is true that the plot of Hide and Seek has a fair share of logical fallacies, the movie simply cannot be fully understood without knowing about the key element at its core: Trauma-based Mind Control. From the first frame to the last, almost every line and every symbol found in the movie directly refers to concepts associated with mind control, specifically Monarch Programming.


link below

http://vigilantcitizen.com/moviesandtv/hide-and-seek-the-most-blatant-movie-about-monarch-mind-control-ever/

BlueAngel
04-23-2015, 06:25 PM
Thanks!!

Watch the video of Britney and how she behaves after Diane Sawyer says the word "SPASM."

Beyonce' and OTHERS!

http://freemantv.com/queen-b-beyonce-beginning/

BlueAngel
04-23-2015, 07:11 PM
Below is an excerpt from the link you provided for the movie "Hide and Seek."

As stated above, for most movie viewers, the internal logic of the script is somewhat unbelievable. However, once the MK symbolism of the movie is recognized, one understands that Hide and Seek is about a handler traumatizing and programming an MK slave. The fact that the father/handler has two personas is consistent with the fact that handlers are often dissociative slaves themselves who’ve been programmed to carry out someone else’s dirty deeds.

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Very true about handlers being dissociative themselves and also handled.

So, in some respects, it's a double-edged sword.

BlueAngel
04-24-2015, 01:21 PM
Tiger Woods, Michael Jackson, Nicki Minaj, Bob Hope and more!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lhcGojT8N_I

BlueAngel
04-24-2015, 01:27 PM
They were waaaayyyyy too personal; so I deleted my posts from early this morning. I hope you were able to read them and understand the crop of people they look for and why we are targeted.

I must say, though, that it was very freeing for me!!!!

;)

BlueAngel
04-24-2015, 01:45 PM
The Illuminati Formula to Create an Undetectable Total Mind Control Slave
CHAPTER 12. THE SCIENCE OF EXTERNAL CONTROLS

Complete Table of Contents

By Fritz Springmeier & Cisco Wheeler
http://educate-yourself.org/mc/illumformula12chap.shtml

A - MONITORING (ASSET CONTROL)

Every intelligence service since time began has sought methods of owning people and ensuring they stayed loyal. Two of 13 Illuminati familieswho are known to have developed extremely well-run bloodline intel ligence groups are the Li family and the Rothschild family. The Li’s family started its Chinese intelligence back in 1400 A.D. They had already been an ancient chinese aristocratic family for many centuries prior to this. Some of their techniques for their agents were state of the art mind control techniques. The Rothschild’s personal spy network and their own mail service was known to be superior to the national european governments during the 19th century. Traditional spycraft has involved the ability to recruit and keep agents loyal.

The professional spook manipulates his recruits for a living. He becomes adept at controlling people. For thousands of years, spy operations have honed their skills at controlling people. Because they work secretly, they generally have done whatever they wanted. When you combine the resources and centuries of intelligence operations of the Illuminati, along with the credibility of government intelligence agencies supposedly guarding our national security, the combination is horrific. There are no moral or financial restraints on what is being done. If the intelligence groups want to dabble in keeping a severed head alive apart from the body, (or a frozen body with an active head) which they have done, there is no one to stop them. Handlers of slaves use both natural and contrived cues to convey to the slave that they want obedience. A natural non-verbal threat cue would be brusque movements, and an innuendo in their voice.

A contrived cue would be placing both hands behind the head, which is a code for “I AM YOUR MASTER, OBEY ME.” Another cue for slaves to obey is when the master makes a fist with his right hand and touches his forehead. This means, “OBEY.” Even children, who were multiples, who were being taught to control their mother who wanted to leave the cult, have been observed using the fist to the forehead to try to get obedience from their mother. Staring is one method that the Programmers use. Charles Manson, who was both a slave and a handler, is an example of how a penetrating hypnotic stare is used by the Programmers. One way to control people is to wear clothes of authority. Dr. Green, Dr. Black, Dr. Star, Michael Aquino and other programmers have worn Nazi uniforms while programming, and at other time have worn Satanic Priestly garb. A beginning point to control people is understanding human needs, and understanding the individual to be controlled.

A good case officer learns everything he can about the asset (person or slave) he is to control. Case officers/handlers have been constantly working at improving their skills of control. Monarch slaves who must function as intelligence officers, who recruit spies, are trained in the art of listening and conversation. Learning to listen without interrupting is a guarantee of success. CIA handlers/ programmers have an extremely personable side to them--and a very deadly animalistic side to them too. They will be trained to look anyone they want to recruit in the eyes and withstand their stare. “Friendship begins with a smile; recruitment with a stare.” (This is a quote from the book Suvorov, Viktor. Inside The Aquarium. New York: Macmillan, p. 108. During training, men in U.S. Army Intelligence are told to read this book to understand how U.S. intelligence works.)

The entire lives of Monarch slaves are kept on records. Zbigniew Brezinski, and the heads of the CIA, and Sec. of Defense Dick Cheney are just some of the men known about who have access to the computer records that contain records on every active Monarch slave. Not everyone has a price, but everyone will respond to their needs being met. James K. Van Fleet, an important military intelligence officer, wrote about how to manage people. In military intelligence, they keep files on people where they identify which subconscious desires of people are important to the person at the time. All this information is kept in SOFT FILES--which are not official files, so these files have never officially existed and are not given up even to Congressional subpoenas. The Intelligence agencies know that if they find out what the person wants above all else in life, they can control the person. The nine areas that are monitored to see if they are important at the moment are:

1. emotional security
2. recognition of efforts or reassurance of worth
3. creative outlets
4. a sense of personal power
5. a sense of roots--belonging somewhere
6. immortality
7. ego-gratification
8. love in all its forms
9. new experiences

Once they monitor these areas and then they determine which needs are priority needs for the person, then they will use what they call “the depth approach” to subconsciously gratify those needs in a way that they gain control over the person. Modern companies are doing this too. Dough mix isn’t being sold, but rather making a family memory with the children is. Soap isn’t sold to get dishes clean--but rather soft beautiful hands are sold. Cosmetic companies don’t sell an item--they sell you hope or an image. Fruit dealers don’t sell fruit, they sell health and vitality. Car dealers don’t sell cars, they sell prestige and images. Freezers aren’t sold, emotional security from having a full freezer is sold. They have learned to genuinely appeal to the 9 subconscious desires. In intelligence, these desires are called “weaknesses”, because intelligence case officers and handlers will attempt to manipulate those desires for their own gain by sincerely helping the person. They set up short-range & long term goals and plans on how manage a person.

For instance, if a Monarch slave’s day to day alters want ego-gratification, a creative outlet, and reassurance of worth, the Illuminati may promise the slave that if the alters comply they will give them a singing contract in Las Vegas. If they need to appeal to their emotional security--they can promise a big salary and a nice house. If they need to appeal to immortality they can promise to award them a star on Hollywood Boulevard or whatever religious immortality they can credibly offer. (The slave will get the short end of any deal.) Anything the slave gets is going to come at a price. The slave will have to do something in return for the Network. Illuminati alters are promised power, honor, glory and wealth. Considering the power and wealth of the elite, they do have the resources to make good on this if they want. However, the price of obedience might be to shave one’s head in submission and sacrifice a child.

Another important point is that the abusers want to get the active cooperation of the person being used. This can be accomplished by lies (or facts if they are convenient) which appeal to the person’s views of right and wrong. For instance, a pedophile will talk to the child who they are going to rape to get its cooperation. The CIA handlers will listen to what a Slave needs, and solve it for them. Bear in mind, they will only do this if the slave doesn’t live with the handler and is pulling in the wrong direction. For instance, the CIA has lots of sleepers, who are dangerous people just waiting to be set off. In these cases, the CIA has to work with front alters who aren’t aware of the mind control. Rather than force an issue with control, sometimes a gentle manipulation will work. Then again some slave alters are under such strong mind control that they simply need an order, and don’t need gentle manipulation.

The isolation that the handlers impose on their slave to prevent real relationships with outsiders, and the strong bonding of the slave to its master (trauma bonding, etc.) that is administered via the mind control, actually provides a chance for freedom IF the slave survives its master’s death. Most slaves are programmed to die soon after their master dies--the co-author Cisco was. If the slave survives the suicide programming, the Illuminati will have already taken into consideration who the slave will be passed onto. Cisco’s system survived their programmer/master’s death, and they were not able to break the intense bonds which made the System loyal to that master. Because there is so much secret mind-control slavery going on, if only a small percentage begin to break loose because their loyalty programming backfires on the Illuminati, it has still has given us on the other side a significant break. Another example of an MPD system becoming exposed when a handler dies, is when Rothschild, the President of Oilfield Scrap & Equipment in Kentucky, committed suicide.

He was the handler of a highly functioning MPD slave, who was his secretary, Mary Davis. Mary Davis could not function after his death and sued in court-- Davis v. Oilfield Scrap & Equipment Co., 482 So.2d 970 (La. App. 3rd Cir. 1986)--for worker’s compensation because she could not function after her handler’s death. Because the Illuminati have kept their membership secret, people have not seen the connections between the various cases of multiple personality that surface. In Iowa in 1987, a Multiple named Freeman was arrested for stealing a car. In South Carolina in 1990, a Rutherford with MPD was in court. In North Dakata in 1988, an MPD daughter named Johnson tried to sue her abusive father named Johnson for her sexual abuse. In 1984, a Multiple named Hall was hit by a truck and was in court. In 1987, a Multiple named Jones tried to use his MPD to get off of a murder conviction in Washington. In 1988, Marie Moore, a Multiple in N.J. ran a coven which tortured teenagers.

The police found a well hidden body in her house, but the corrupt judicial system did not convict her of murder. In 1988, a Ms. Wheeler applied for Social Security disability benefits due to mental impairments such as MPD. In each of these MPD cases: Freeman, Hall, Jones, Johnson, Moore, Rutherford, and Wheeler are all surnames that have many members in the Illuminati. The secrecy of the Illuminati has protected people from seeing their hidden genealogies. Tracking these genealogies would in turn start exposing the extent of their mind control. As the handlers isolate the slave from mainstream society, they can begin to give them things that will satisfy their long suppressed emotional needs. These are given in a way that they further lock the person in to the control. For instance, the slave has been stripped of power, he craves power--so he is given power over other people’s lives. The slave has been stripped of its real family, so he is given roots by a long generational occult bloodline, and a cult family. Each Monarch slave exists in their own situation, but there are often common features to how they are controlled.

For instance, the handlers like to restrict the mobility of their slaves. Some of the slaves will never write their own checks, will never drive anywhere, and will seldom watch television unless it is something like a Walt Disney movie which is mind-control programming. Some slaves are allowed to drive, but only on a limited basis and their sense of direction is stripped from them hypnotically. In January, 1995, this co-author’s newsletter From A Follower of Christ had a feature article on Marilyn Monroe. Monarch mind-controlled slaves like Loretta Lynn and Marilyn Monroe lived tightly controlled lives, and were not allowed to drive automobiles. The one exception is that Loretta has been allowed to drive her car around the ranch. The following is some excerpts from the co-author’s January ‘95 newsletter because it gives a good example of how Marilyn Monroe, a mind-controlled slave had her life very tightly controlled.

EXCERPTS
On a day in October, 1957, a woman named Lena Pepitone was hired to take care of Marilyn Monroe. In 1979, she published her memories of the time she was the primary person taking care of Marilyn Monroe. I personally think that Lena Pepitone was clean, and didn’t know what she was dealing with. She describes in detail her life with Marilyn Monroe. The inside story of life with Marilyn is nothing like people might imagine. Lena’s book is such a clear description of how life with a Monarch slave can be--that I decided to use her book as the basis of some articles.

Marilyn Monroe was an orphan, and during her infancy the Illuminati/CIA programmed her to be a Monarch slave. Before becoming an actress, while she was still a stripper, she spent time with the founder of the Church of Satan Anton LaVey. Victims of LaVey have pointed him out as a mind-control programmer. At that time, Marilyn was going by several names including Mona. When they made her a star, Marilyn lived on the 13th floor, in 13E at Sutton Place, NY the world of the rich and famous. That is where Lena came to help her. However, Marilyn’s existence was not that of a rich person, but was more like that of an inmate. Marilyn was allowed to have no personal life, outside of the dictates of her programmers and her masters. The programmers and users bore down so hard on controlling Marilyn that they repeatedly came close to driving her insane. The following format the words in italic are direct quotes from Lena Pepitone’s book which is entitled Marilyn Monroe Confidential, An Intimate Personal Account, NY: Simon & Schuster, 1979.

p.16- “Floor-to-ceiling mirrors were everywhere. Even the dining alcove at the rear of the living room had a table with a mirrored top. All these mirrors didn ‘t cheer things up.”

In programming Monarch slaves, mirrors are used a great deal. Within the Monarch slave’s mind, countless mirror images are made. The slave sees thousands of mirrors everywhere in their mind. Because Marilyn was so stripped of any personal identity, she decorated her house as her mind looked on the inside--full of mirrors. Although other Monarchs may have some desires to decorate with mirrors, Marilyn is the most extreme case I know of filling one’s house full of mirrors.

p.25-- “Marilyn ‘s bedroom was definitely not a queen ‘s chamber..." There were no paintings in the cramped, square room, only mirrors. Marilyn’s controllers kept her down. Even when she was famous and great, she lived like a slave. She was not allowed to have any self-esteem beyond what she was programmed for.

p.29 -- “May was finally able to call for the chauffeur to take Marilyn away. “... Marilyn was a captive, she didn’t go anywhere on her own, she always had someone drive her.

p.32-- “First of all, Marilyn’s life was incredibly monotonous for her. Her doctor ‘s appointments (I later learned these were appointments with psychiatrists) and her acting lessons were virtually all she had to look forward to. She spent most of her time in her little bedroom..." Marilyn went out of the house to be either programmed or groomed. Other than that she stayed cooped up in her room. Does the reader begin to see that the woman was a slave with no life of her own?

p.33-- “She [Marilyn] didn ‘t even own a television, never listened to the radio.” They stripped Marilyn of any contact with the outside world to insure that their mind control would work. They were afraid that something might go wrong with the first Presidential slave that was allowed to be highly visible to the public....

p.41-- [Marilyn says], “Shit. My life is shit, “she wept. “I can’t go anywhere. I’m a prisoner in this house" Marilyn is only telling the truth.

· p.43-- “Because Marilyn had no real friends, she concentrated on herself” The closest friend Marilyn had is saying that Marilyn Monroe had no real friends. Doesn’t that strike someone as strange? Marilyn didn’t have any real friends. Almost the only ones in her life were her abusers, and they worked hard to strip her of any personal goals or esteem.

p.70-- “You can go anywhere,” I [Lena] assured her. “Anywhere in the world” “Who with? she asked sadly. “Who with? By myself” "Mr. Miller, your friends...” “What friends? I ain‘t got nobody.” Many times during the programming, the programmers separate the victim from anyone who could be a support person, they are isolated from having friends and relatives unless the relatives are in the occult.

p. 71 --Marilyn repeatedly calls herself a prostitute. She says, “They laugh at me. What am I . . . nothing... a prostitute.” Further on the page Marilyn tells Lena that no one has cared about her for her entire life, including her mother....

p.77-- “Don’t take my baby. So they took my baby from me... and I never saw it again. “After Marilyn had a healthy baby it was taken away from her and she was never allowed to see it. It was very likely sacrificed. Marilyn was too afraid to ask what they were going to do with it.

p.100-- Marilyn loses her baby at the same place that some of her programming was done at. One can speculate that they took the baby for some perverted use....

p.134 -- “The operation took place at Polyclinic Hospital where Marilyn had lost her baby the year before... [Marilyn said]”Going back to that hospital’s a nightmare... .Pain? What‘s pain?” For her, the only pain was in not having her own child. Notice she always goes back to the Polyclinic Hospital. Monarch victims have had to endure vast amounts of horrible torture. They learn to survive by disassociation. When Marilyn says “What is pain?” she is being accurate in reflecting her response to pain. She could not have pain--because she would disassociate it. Certain alters are created to take the pain, and the other alters don’t have to experience it.

p.135-- “I found Marilyn in a small room without any view. It was very depressing, especially since there were no flowers or any other signs that Marilyn had friends who were thinking of her.” Imagine a great actor like Marilyn is given a room without a view and no flowers or anything to cheer her up.

p.137-- “Marilyn’s now almost daily visits to the psychiatrists ..” . She was closely monitored.

p.193-- Marilyn’s half-sister tries to come into Marilyn’s life. Marilyn says, “I have a right to have a family.” And on the next page, “Gee, you’re really my sister. My sister... At least you lived with relatives.” Marilyn’s masters did not want her to have any family. They often strip the deeper alters of a Monarch slave from any ties to any non-cult person....

p.199--Marilyn orders a $3,000 Emerald green dress to be made. Emerald green is often the most favorite color of Monarch slaves because of their Wizard of Oz programming which is usually the foundational programming.

p.202-- “Frank... clipped two gorgeous emerald earrings on Marilyn ‘s ears.” Again we see that emerald green is often used by Monarch slaves.

p. 205-- “Aside from her evenings with Frank [Sinatra], Marilyn’s life in California seemed identical to her life in New York. She didn‘t read, didn‘t watch television, didn’t go anywhere. Although the sun was always shining, Marilyn was as pale as ever. She didn’t like to go outside during the day.”

As time goes on, the case officer or handler will weave an ever firming, ever tightening web of control around his asset. They will often use rapport. Many of the CIA’s Monarch programmers are very likable people, they have learned the skill of “B.S.” and building rapport. Some of this involves just understanding people and NLP. The handler will look for telltale signs such as absenteeism, lateness, nervousness, or inconsistency. He will rely on intuition, spies, astral projection or psychic abilities to keep tabs on the asset. Then if a problem develops, it will be addressed with appeals to patriotism, greed, ambition, or fear. Whatever works is the motto of the game. When slaves are picked up, the men picking them up are called Draconian enforcers. Both authors of this book are very familiar with some of these men.

They are often big male Monarch slaves. A popular Illuminati access point is to grab the right hand with the enforcers thumb in the area between the victim’s thumb and index finger. The pressure will be strong enough to leave a bruise after the access. At different times in different states, there have been patterns to what kind of car they drive. They often take the cars from cooperating dealerships, so that there is no license number to trace. They also use stolen license plates on their cars. In 1993, in NY they were using brown volkswagens. In the Oregon area (especially Portland), a full time Monarch slave enforcer named Rex drives his large red pickup or at times someone else’s other vehicle (like his Illuminati boss’s white pickup truck). He will carry a gun and a cattle prod. The cars in some places have been often red or black. A white or silver car sometimes is used to denote someone of rank. When limousines are used to pick up slaves, they may switch license plates regularly because the plates contain access codes.

This was one reason the establishment began allowing people to customize their own license plates! When one wants to control a group of people, as a leader of a country Machiavelli’s book is great. Some of those principles can be scaled down to working with individuals. Fritz has observed that almost across the board, if slaves are left within a non-cult family, relatives will consistently misperceive what is happening in the slave’s life. Switches between personalities are reinterpreted to fit the world view of the observer--the multiple is merely perceived as “moody” and “irrational”. Half-way decent cover stories will generally suffice to cover the slave’s activities for the mafia, the CIA, and the satanic cult they belong to. The slave merely needs to pull up a good front alter for public consumption, for people want to think the best of everyone. The public will watch the 7-Swans fairy tale where a magical coat turns swans into a princess, never guessing that a news story far greater is happening all around them. One way to control a person is to identify who the key people are in their life and then influence those people.

Some of the work in controlling Monarch slaves goes on behind the scenes, even without the slave ever realizing it. A number of Monarch slaves have been maneuvered into marriages without actual mind-control even being necessary. One of the items to successfully controlling people is that they know who they are taking orders from. In the military, officers get frustrated because they end up getting conflicting orders from conflicting jurisdictions. This happens with the control of Monarch slaves too, when too many chiefs and not enough indians are around. When a slave ends up serving several handlers within a short period of time they can get really messed up. This is because the slaves receive severe abuse and their programming can be splintered and destroyed if not handled correctly. Of course, the slave takes the blame, but that doesn’t eliminate the problem. If a handler wants a better chance of his slave functioning smoothly, the slave shouldn’t be tampered with by lots of handlers.

This common sense logic of management seems to have been missed by a large number of handlers. One thing can be said, someone who is a common drug dealer had better not tamper with an Illuminati Mother of Darkness alter slave if they want to stay alive. It appears that slaves are seldom tampered with without permission. Another ingredient in controlling people is knowing what your competition is going to do. Because the cults work with the intelligence agencies, they often know who, what, where, when, and how their enemies are going to challenge them. The authors of this book could write a book on how the Illuminati/intelligence agencies have watched them. People such as therapists and ministers who challenge the Monarch trauma-based programming have nice growing dossiers in CIA files.

A note should be made that the American intelligence agencies tattooed some of their slaves with blue Monarch butterflies, bluebirds, or roses for identification purposes. The bluebird relates to the CIA project name Project Bluebird. Some satanic cults tatoo the “sign of the great Beast” on the heads of victims. They also place scars with occult designs on their victims. The Illuminati slaves, who are hierarchy members of the Illuminati, are not tattooed, although a hard-to-see scar consisting of dots in a triangle on the third eye is done to some members. The prohibition against marking up one’s body is not consistently enforced in the Illuminati--it seems this standard is enforced more with the women than the male Illuminati members. CIA slaves have received the Butterfly tatoos from the age of about 11 on up.
PLANNING A TYPICAL INTELLIGENCE OPERATION, or the STANDARD TEXTBOOK TECHNIQUES OF A MODERN INTELLIGENCE AGENCY.
The following points are of a scenario which was developed as follows by the author: Fritz observed how the CIA were carrying out an operation to recapture a Monarch slave who was trying to escape. These activities follow standard spook textbook methods, and for instance, fit the same patterns of an intelligence operation codenamed Operation Sphinx described in detail in the book By Way of Deception. By exposing how an operation is put together perhaps it will become clearer how the CIA monitor an asset they fear is escaping.

POINT 1. An event that looked like an accident was planned. The event was impossible to miss. This can include car accidents, people waving one down to tell you that you have a flat tire, etc.

POINT 2. They studied their prey to determine his/her routine. They will watch a residence intently to determine the person’s routine and take advantage of this.

POINT 3. Then an insignificant accidental event is planned. Repeatedly, in the many Monarch people the authors have known, the tiniest insignificant points in people’s lives are being manipulated. (Bear in mind the intelligence people are carried away and overdo much of what they do, even over planning some of their ops.)

POINT 4. The chief is given the order to “hit at convenience.” They are watching and probing to discover a weak point, and when they find a weak point they will strike at convenience.

POINT 5. Listening devices are installed. (The Illuminati’s intelligence agencies are illegally monitoring the lives of Americans with bugs that go up to 2 Ghz. Companies like Tektronics which work with the CIA are selling counters which won’t detect bugs at 2 Ghz. In other words, what is mainly sold the public is inadequate, but BK Precision does sell a counter which goes past 2 Ghz. for those who want to know when they are being illegally spied upon. Since MI-6 & the CIA cooperate, the CIA can simply say that their American intelligence information is from MI-6. It may be illegal for the CIA to spy in the U.S.-ha! no one stops them, but British MI-6 can legally spy on American citizens.) The intell. groups themselves use BABBLERS, which are electronic devices that emit noise & chatter & destroy the effectiveness of bugs.

POINT 6. Teams of experts are brought in to brainstorm about the operation. The people called in on a case will be coordinated by a team or teams. One of these teams will consist of various experts whose combined brains will give great ability to plan.

POINT 7. The person will be watched by moving in an observer into a nearby building.

POINT 8. An intelligence woman or man will be sent door to door selling perfume or something else--perhaps they will pose as Jehovah’s Witnesses.

POINT 9. The door to door undercover intelligence person will be very personable, very nice to talk to.

POINT 10. The team will take all the surveillance information and spend hours going over every detail, and they will debate and get tense as they hash out the significance of certain intelligence pieces of information as they work out a plan of action.

POINT 11. The Intelligence people will take advantage of the social needs of someone close to their prey. They might give his wife some opportunities for fun things away from the house. They know how to take advantage very quickly & smoothly of the social needs of people who are around a Monarch slave. (They put used car salesmen to shame.)

POINT 12. The intelligence people have the capability to enter without keys.

POINT 13. They practice “motionless following.” That means they followed people in shifts. They will follow by tag teams so to speak, and use car phones.

POINT 14. They like to use “trade” occupations as a cover.

POINT 15. The man will give a business card which had an actual office, etc. but which was a front. They will be willing to give a business card--which is a real address, but only a CIA front. The day they realize they are exposed, the phone will quit working. Handlers and men within the Network often use business cards and other cards they carry in their wallets as codes indicating various things.

In intelligence operations, the agents will take their "intelligence"--that is the info they have collected, and put it through 4 steps.

1) “direction”, who is going to collect what where.
2) “collection”, the actual spying.
3) “processing”, analyzing and integrating what they have collected, and
4) “dissemination”, distributing (via reports, talks, charts) the analyzed and rewritten reports to their ustomers.

Most of the intelligence groups have a reputation for distorting the truth in the third stage to fit their agency’s “party line”. Count St.-Germain (169?-1784) is a good example of an intelligence officer. He was one of the leading Illuminati of his time. He did alchemy for Louis XV, and magic for the Masonic leader Karl, prince of Hesse. He spied for the Dutch and the French, and who knows who else. His fundamental allegiance was to the Mystery Religions of the Illuminati. Modern day examples are Lord Victor Rothschild, one of the leaders of MI-6, Sir Dick Goldsmith White, Jewish, Mason, & leader of MI-6 from 1956-69, Sir John Rennie leader of MI-6 from 1969-73 whose son Charles Tatham Ogilvy Rennie was a known, major drug runner, Major General Sir John Sinclair, of the Illuminati, MI-6 chief from 1953-56. MI-S has had a number of Illuminati/Freemasons called Director-Generals (rather than Chiefs) running it too. Nigel West, a pseudonym for a man who worked for MI-6 devoted an entire chapter in his book MI-S about how Hugh Astor and Victor Rothschild ran Britain’s double agent division. ALL, I repeat ALL of the German agents spying on England during W.W. II were double-agents actually working for the British. If anyone tried to work for the German’s secret service who wasn’t disloyal, that person could only work for the Germans IF they turned into a double agent for the British. Today, almost every one working against MI-5, MI-6 and the Illuminati’s New World Order, is a double agent. This book may be followed by a number of similar books by double agents of the New World Order’s Network.

CIA OPERATIONS INVOLVING GEORGE WHITE
George White, working for the MK Ultra Mind Control program supplied during the 1950s a long list of prostitutes to the CIA for study. During the 1950s, the CIA was refining its knowledge of what makes a prostitute tick. How do you use them? How do you train them? How do you teach them to do both espionage and seduction? What are the elements of seduction? All these sciences were refined. For instance, if a prostitute stays longer than she is paid for, she will shock the john, and he will find his ego greatly boosted. With the right methods, the prostitute agent can elicit all types of secrets from the vulnerable male. With the ability to create Black Widow Spiders (deadly seductive Monarch alters), the Illuminati gained one more sure method to control others. Seduction and then blackmail. The CIA, just as FBI J. Edgar Hoover did, keeps detailed files on sexual preferences. It supplies what people want, but the supply comes with a price that the individual is now under blackmail.

B - BLACKMAIL

This dirty game has been honed to a fine art, which is a standard feature of the Illuminati/intelligence groups. The CIA term for blackmail is an “OK FIX.” When they use a person’s past sins to force someone to do something they refer to this as “biographic leverage.” Any weak point in a person can and will be exploited. Sexual entrapment for blackmail is referred to as a ‘HONEY TRAP”. Black widow alters are being trained and sent out for this purpose. Blackmail of the slave begins when it is beginning to get verbal. At 3, the cults will tell a child they have a bomb planted inside them, that the cult can detonate if they don’t obey. In order to blackmail, or threaten, you have to have something to threaten the person with. Men are frequently entrapped by sexual behavior which is criminal. Sometimes they are also entrapped by murder.

The Monarch slave will be allowed to have children so that they can be blackmailed into complying to save the children or grandchildren. The Monarch slave in turn may be used to blackmail others. Certain alters are trained in this. A Monarch Beta model is highly trained in seduction and will seduce a man. Then an alter which feigns death will take the body and the man will be threatened for having killed the woman. Many politicians and ministers are operating under blackmail today. When Jimmy Swaggart’s ministry fell, over 200 Assembly of God ministers called headquarters and confessed that they had similar problems. The extent that blackmail is being used by the NWO would boggle people’s minds. Porn films are taken of the Monarch victims, so that they can be used to blackmail the victim. Monarch victims are forced to commit ritual murders which are photographed and then used to blackmail the poor mind-controlled victim. Perhaps, one of the cruelest forms of blackmail which is carried routinely by handlers, is the threat to incarcerate the mind-controlled slave in a mental hospital.

The co-author Fritz has read a number of books about the situation in America’s mental hospitals, and sections of these books will literally make a person vomit from disgust. The legal climate in this nation has made it easy to stick someone else in a mental hospital. Once there, they are routinely given tranquilizers Mellaril, Thorazine or Stelazine so that they can’t rebel against the most wretched conditions. Nadine Scolla was a nurse in a mental hospital who wrote an expose based on her diary while she worked. Her book is entitled Keeper of the Keys (Westlake Village, CA: F&J Publishing Corp., 1976) The following are quotes from her account of working in a mental hospital,

“How can they allow such places to exist? They really need to reform, but who is going to do it?.. .We’re supposed to be civilized and yet many people are treated worse than the lowest form of animals. Who cares about these patients? (p. 15).. .Doctors receive one hundred thousand dollars a year starting salary, and the nursing personnel receive the highest pay in the profession, and yet the patients get the worst of care. (p. 19).. .I could see that the patients had no rights here. (p.27)... [on page 49-50 she reports about a secret hospital grave yard where patients could be buried without anyone knowing]..

Do you remember the young rape victim and how they treated her-the girl with beautiful olive skin and long brown hair?... They filled the bath tub with cubes of large ice and dropped her into it. They removed her from that and placed her in scalding hot water. She came out red as a lobster. Her body was badly blistered. This treatment didn’t help, so they decided upon shock treatment. ‘I never saw anything so awful in all my life. They forcibly strapped her down, tied her hands and legs, stuck the electrodes to her head and placed a tongue blade in her mouth. She couldn’t scream, wiggle, or do anything after the treatment.. .Tammey was dead. Her body was limp-she was still trapped in the chair. It was more than I could take. I had to go off by myself and cry.’ (p.51) I don’t understand how our local government can allow these people to be treated worse than a dog in the local pound. At least the animals have their own cubicle and their own food dish. (p.73)”

According to what Nadine Scolla was told, half of the patients in mental hospitals are schizophrenics. A hefty percentage of these “schizophrenics” are really programmed multiples who are being quietly discarded by the system. How many victims of trauma-based total mind-control have ended up sent to mental hospitals? Many tens of thousands, maybe the exact number will never be known. America’s mental hospitals have also played an active role in the programming and the research for the programming.

C - BRIBES

Their skill at bribes is an extension of understanding human nature, and human needs and wants. It works together with blackmail.

D - The CONTROL of the MILIEU

One of the basic ideas of creating a mind-controlled slave, is to control the entire milieu of the slave. This is expressed in Nexus Seven. The environment of the slave is designed for what is called “story immersion.” A Monarch slave who has been given the basic Alice In Wonderland and Wizard of Oz programming will see objects connected to these story lines in almost every store. Restaurants in Dallas and San Antonio (The Time Machine Restaurants) which are used to reinforce programming, have mirrors on their walls, doors and ceilings and their waitresses dressed like programming script characters--such as Dorothy of the Wizard of Oz. It is no accident that one of the leading Satanic singers calls himself Ozzy Ozburn, or that a certain Mexican witch calls herself Oz. It is no accident that recently a witch wrote the book The Witches of Oz. It is no accident that the elite have promoted the Wizard of Oz theme with television product advertisements. It is no accident that the U.S. has Oz stamps, that television has Oz cartoons, and Oz characters are appearing all over the place.

For a while even Kansas had an Oz theme to their license plates (“Land of Ahs”). Hillary Clinton, (a 6th level Illuminati witch & sadistic Monarch slave handler) received a witch’s hat in anticipation that she would be called the wicked witch of the West, and that Mary Matalin (who married Clinton’s top campaign advisor James Carville) had a photograph of Hillary Clinton as the Wicked Witch of the West on her wall with the caption “I will get you, my pretty, and your little dog too!” The witch’s hat and the caption both are popular with these people associated with the White House because they are so rich in triple and quadruple meanings. The deadliest meaning is that the Monarch Slaves that sexually service Hillary and Bill Clinton have Wizard of Oz programming. Hillary is really the Wicked Witch of the West! to these poor Beta slaves. The constant bumping into Wizard of Oz paraphernalia or pictures of it helps focus the slave’s mind onto their Wizard of Oz programming. MGM Grand recently built a multi-million dollar pyramid complex with a theme park which is based on the Wizard of Oz and the Alice in Wonderland themes.

The hotel at the MGM Grand is the world’s largest with 5,000 rooms, which shows that mind-control is big business. A team of actors dressed up in the Wizard of Oz theme like Dorothy and her friends (Tin man & Scarecrow) and walked on a yellow brick road constructed in the MGM complex. Emerald City is part of the theme park. The complex cost $1 billion according to the Las Vegas Review Journal, Dec. 19, ‘93 page Al. This complex is given the occult name Luxor, and is at 3900 Las Vegas Boulevard South. It has been advertised as the “Next Wonder of the World.” It’s a shame that the 1990’s big wonder is a programming center. Another part of the control of the Milieu is labelled “planned spontaneity” by the controllers. The Monarch victim repeatedly finds experiences “just happening.” These are the coincidences that are so mystical that people feel there must be a higher significance to the event. Many of these are well-staged events. A slave may try to escape marrying the person they are commanded to marry. The handlers stay one step ahead of the slave, and through a series of coincidences introduce another acceptable person.

The slave in an effort to escape grabs the first available substitute who has been coached on how to push all the correct green mental buttons to get the escapee to marry them. ‘The slave jumps from the frying pan into the fire. Things which validate the programming and the mystical beliefs of the cult will be repeatedly introduced. The skill in introducing these secretly into the life of the slave are amazing. There is no limit to what can be attempted, and some of these staged events are worthy of Houdini. The occult world has placed their symbols all over the United States. The most esteemed institutions such as Walt Disney are fountains of the occult. Walt Disney movies are steeped in magic, and yet American society is so drowned in the occult, they have been desensitized to how it permeates American culture. The concept of “Sacred knowledge” versus “profane knowledge” is introduced. If the slave should escape, the first choice is to send someone who can pick them up. I have heard of slaves escaping from Europe on the plane, only to be picked up by a handler when they land in New York. Mt. Shasta’s programming site, accessed by helicopter, specializes in reprogramming escaped slaves. Jerry Lee Lewis has a notorious reputation among the Network as being exceptionally sadistic in reprogramming escapees.

However, if the slave is not needed, and is wanting out--tens of thousands of them have been locked up in mental hospitals as paranoid schizophrenics. In the mental hospitals they can continue to get drugs and electro-shock--the very things that caused their problems in the first place. The insiders have a name for these slaves, they call them “broken butterflies”. If the slave tries to go to court, according to some the Non Compos Mentis Law prevents them from testifying against their abusers. At any rate, with or without this law it would not be easy for a victim to get his testimony accorded the respect it deserves. If they get psychiatric help--their therapist can not tell anyone about what they have suffered, and the therapist is hamstrung about what they can do in court for the client. Recently, 15 states have created statutes of limitations on sadistic rape. This is in response to all the Monarch slaves who have begun recovering memories. ·The extent that entire culture and society protect the Monarch Programming is enormous. Anyone admitting MPD (aka DID) is in fear of being labelled crazy and losing some of their rights and their job.

Because the conspiracy (the Network) is so vast, an examination of how the Illuminati controls society would be needed to cover the subject of milieu control. This would take an entire book. The reader is encouraged to read some of Fritz Springmeier’s other works which expose how the Illuminati’ s control extends over all levels of society. Most people have settled their minds on this issue without getting the facts. When the real facts are shown, it blows people’s minds. Some of the easiest and everyday items to show people, are simply a dollar bill--with its Illuminati symbol on the back, and a can of vegetables which has a bar code on it. Every bar code has 3 secret and non-functional numbers in the bar code, which are 666. The silent hammer that strikes out at the Monarch slave is that everywhere they go, the occult world is there. Several cars are named after Satan. The name Saturn, and Belair are well-known as occult names for Satan. When Freemasonry’s greatest philosopher/Illuminati Mind-control Programmer/Grand Druid Council member Manly P. Hall wrote Cabalistic Keys to the Lord’s Prayer (Los Angeles, CA: The Philosophical Research Society, 1964, p. 10) he wrote “Saturn = Hallowed be thy name.” The men who head these auto manufacturing companies are in the Illuminati.

There is no question that they were NOT ignorant of the significance of these names. Many other occult names of big significance to the Illuminati involving eagles have been placed on cars. Electra is a recent car named after a demon. Viper is a slow and deadly creature, why would one want to use it to name a car? Viper is also the name of an important demon. Viper is found in Black Widow Monarch slaves. Some readers may begin to feel that things are being stretched. The connections of numerous car names to the occult could be exposed, but that is not the purpose of this book. We will quote straight from a company their own explanation for their car’s name in this next paragraph, simply to make the point, whether other perceive it or not, the Monarch slaves have to exist in a world full of satanic/occult symbology that ordinary people don’t understand. Mazda’s president, Norimasa Furuta, published a book in 1990 which it intended to give to all its employees. The book explains its purpose “...we have written a booklet to explain how MAZDA became the name of our corporation and what it means in order to help everyone who is related to MAZDA enhance their creativity and develop their potential.” The book entitled The Globe: In Search of the Origins of Mazda, goes on to explain about the founder of Mazda car company, Matsuda Jujiro, who is heralded as a great seer who “believed in himself, in his friends, and in heaven, and he achieved a truly global vision.” Mazda company’s book The Globe then explains that the company name Mazda comes from the god Ahura-Mazda which was the “god of light” and the “god of wisdom” according to the book. Jujiro believed that Mazda represents the “origin of civilization.”

The “god of light” (Lucifer) is often credited for starting civilization by those who aren’t Christians. The name Mazda according to The Globe symbolizes “unlimited possibility and stimulates people’s dreams.” Mazda’s book puts down in writing their New Age goals to “establish peace for mankind with a global point of view,” and “a spiritual foundation” toward which to work toward a “new age.” The book further states civilization started in Egypt and that Christianity evolved from the pagan mystery religions. Another book associated with Mazda cars, is the book The Meaning of Life given to everyone who test-drives a Mazda--that was as long as book supplies last. I quote the book “...the time when regions and continents existed keeping a certain distance from each other is a thing of the past.... We are eager to transmit the meaning of MAZDA to the children of MAZDA who will create a new MAZDA... With a strong desire for peace and through the production and sale of automobiles and machine tools, MAZDA has advanced on a course to unite the people of the world” [bold added] (pp 78-79.) An adept of the Illuminati is taught about Ahura Mazda. He would know that Mazda was the Persian God of Light who was also known as Ormus--which is another name for the Preiure de Sion, which is a powerful group protecting the 13th Illuminati Bloodline.

Some of the names of cars which could be triggering to SRA survivors include the Demon, the Vagabond, Dodge Ram (Goat of Mendes), Buick’s Phoenix, Ford’s Cobra, Mercury’s Cougar, Eagle Jeeps, the Le Baron Eagle Logo, Navistar Eagle Truck (which may have Eagle mud flaps, and Goodyear Eagle GT tires). For most of us an eagle is a symbol of what is noble and beautiful. Historically, the eagle and the snake have been the logo of the tribe of Dan, considered the “black sheep” of the 12 tribes. The Prophet Hosea said, “Set the trumpet to thy mouth. He shall come as an eagle against the house of the LORD, because they have transgressed my covenant, and trespassed against my law.” (HOS 8:1) And the Prophet Obadiah said, “Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the Lord.” (OB 1:4) The co-authors of this book didn’t create Illuminati history nor their symbols. We are only reporting on them. We would like the eagle simply to represent what is noble and fearfully made by God. Indeed, in some verses like in Isaiah the eagle has a positive connotation.

However, the construct, the refraining that is done by the Illuminati upon these symbols is that the eagle represents Satan’s empire. The Assyrian, Roman, and Nazi empires used the eagle. The Illuminati point these things out to their initiates, and ask, “Is this a symbol of Christianity, or the power of our lineages which ruled those empires?” It is not the co-authors desire to interpret what Hosea and Obadiah meant. Nor is it our desire to dissuade anyone from buying the cars mentioned above. Our only point is that the survivor lives in a world of occult symbols and occult programming triggers. How do you convince someone to quit fearing the power of their abusers when it has its symbols on their money, their canned food, their cars, and their churches? (Yes, there are such things as All-Seeing Eyes in some churches and Masonic logos on others, and other occult symbols. Hislop’s The Two Babylons is devoted to showing all the pagan symbology in the Catholic church.) Are we exaggerating? Fritz went into one fast food restaurant and the cups and placemats had a wizard throwing occult energy balls with occult symbols, the next fast food place had place mats showing the King Arthur story which is an extremely important myth for the Illuminati (the quest for the Grail!), the next fast food place had place mats giving children instructions on how to hypnotize your parents, the next one had a Wizard of Oz theme, and the next one was selling occult movies. Fritz kept these place mats to use in his talks! This nation is immersed in the occult and so desensitized they don’t realize it.

The public thinks nothing of a Gargoyle Coloring/Activity book. This type of thing is commonplace in American society. If one examines Golden Book’s Gargoyle Coloring/Activity book (1995) still being sold, you will find Gargoyle demons named after geographic locations that the child can color, you will find a Magus with a Book of Spells that the child can color. For activities, the child can duplicate pictures, work codes, match shadows with their figures, match objects and images, and work with robot heads of which several can be placed on one body. All these activities reinforce the type of skills that the programmers want children under mind-control to have. The book has castles, robots, a sentence about a kitten which is a code about a computer disk, and mazes. A perfect book for the programmers to give a child, and the naive public walks by these kinds of books on their store shelves everyday.

The Illuminati’s mind-control goes on in part right in front of America’s nose, and they don’t see it. One of the saddest things for Monarch mind-control survivors is that the Programmers are so systematic in destroying everything of beauty and value in life. Everything conceivable that can be degraded will be. This mind-control has spread like an unseen cancer to every segment of life, and threatens to destroy this nation from the inside out. Imagine that every time you heard your own national anthem that it reinforced your mind-control programming? That is the life of these victims of mind-control. We wish the American people could realize that George Bush and Bill Clinton are on the same team. Both are descendants of the top 13 Illuminati bloodlines, both are totally corrupt morally, both are into the occult, and both were trained by the same person in subliminal language techniques [NLP, Neuro Linguistic Programming]. The best in subliminal language techniques is said to be Tony Robins, and he is who the elite got to train both George Bush and Bill Clinton.

Monarch Mind Controlled Slaves have been created since the late 1940s. Since the early ‘60s, Monarch Slaves have been specially created for American presidents. These models are called Presidential Models. There are now living about 600 people (Monarch slaves) who were created into Presidential Models. That is a large harem. Presidential Models fit a particular set of physical standards, not one of the Presidential sex slaves has been black. President Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Bush, Reagan and Clinton have all been slave handlers. Many slaves have some deeper alters who have a realization that their Presidents are in on the corruption, how does that make them feel? The cults which program pay particular attention to showing the child that men in police uniforms and ministers of churches are participating with the cult. This has the effect of embedding in the mind of the victim that there is no escape--that the entire structure of society is secretly in cahoots with the programmers. Not all policemen nor all ministers are dirty, but because of the Monarch program, the entire structure of American society has been seriously compromised to the extent that all sectors are infiltrated and contaminated. Unfortunately, the worst fears of the victims, are in reality close to the truth.

The Monarch victim is further victimized because no-one wants to believe them in how controlled American society has become. The truth is we are on the verge of losing civilization as we know it, and entering into a dark sadistic slave-master society that will make Hitler’s Third Reich look like child play. What part of our lives are not controlled? We go to our jobs--our boss is naturally given the right to control us. For many centuries, the Machiavellian elite have provided the masses with “Bread and Circus”. That means “keep the people fed and entertained and they will not rebel.” After Americans come home they are kept busy with entertainment. The only exception to their work, and TV watching, are their trips to their churches. Even the various religions are secretly under elite control. See Fritz’s Be Wise As Serpents book for an 800 page expose of how the various Christian groups and New Age Religions are controlled.

The point is that people are kept busy and occupied, and they seldom try to step outside of the path that the elite want them to stay in. A slave’s front system will be a normal busy person for years, while the deeper alters serve their various functions for the elite. There is simply little that occurs that shakes the routine that gets established. If the handler doesn’t live with the slave himself, he will often place another slave as the spouse, to oversee the slave. The marriage couple’s deeper alters spy on each other. The schools that the slaves will go to are often controlled by the abusers. Some of the more obvious ones are Groton, a school for the elite’s children, and Santa Clara University and Williamette University used by the Illuminati to train their politicians for public office. The Beta Theta Pi is a political fraternity through which quite a few Illuminati politicians have joined. The Jesuit schools throughout the United States are used for abuse and programming. Note, that Bill Clinton went to the Jesuit university in Washington, D.C. called Georgetown University. A number of the military school that parents ship their elementary boys off to are used by the elite for the ongoing abuse and programming of slaves. The Illuminati foundation, the W.K. Kellogg Foundation, gave the initial funding for the Quest Program for the public schools. The Quest Program is being adopted by various public schools. It also goes by the names Skills for Adolescence, Skills for Growing, and Skills for Living.

One of the early editions of Quest had an exercise called “elevator” where the teacher uses visualization and guided imagery. The teacher places her school children in a mild hypnotic trance described in the Quest literature as “a quiet contemplative mood.” Then the teacher tells the students, “You are on an elevator.” Each button on the elevator represents an age of the child. When the students push a button, the elevator takes them back to experiences at that age. It is not possible in the scope of this book to cover how every sector of our lives are controlled. Those who are interested need to read some of Fritz Springmeier’s other writing including Be Wise As Serpents. However, it would be appropriate to cover how television shows and Hollywood are intimately linked to Monarch Mind-Control programming. A great deal that is coming out of Hollywood is linked to mind-control in some fashion.

Some of the hottest entertainers are Monarch slaves, such as Madonna, a Marilyn Monroe replacement. Co-author Fritz was given a catalog to Vidimax, which is an New Jersey occult porn video club by someone wanting to help his research. This cult video club actually sells snuff films. They sell the real life footage of cannibalism, virgin sacrifices, occult rituals, and worse. When Madonna was a teenage slave with the name Louise Chiccone living in NY East Village, a real life film was made of her being raped (a setup), and then her cult family taking the rapist and sacrificing him. Vidimax sells this for $19 to their members. Some of their videos are live footage of how kidnapped people have been tortured into becoming slaves. One of the catalog listing says, “tortured until their wills are broken and they become Olga’s submissive slaves!...WARNING EXTREME GRAPHIC VIOLENCE...BACK BY POPULAR DEMAND.”

By the way, the Illuminati have their own private porn distribution. Many people ask, “Why do they need mind-controlled slaves?” Part of the answer is they need them to make their sick porn. The history of the connections between the entertainment world and the occult and royalty go far back. One group of people known for their travelling entertainment, the gypsies, have some interesting parallels with the Illuminati bloodlines. A gypsy proverb is, “If you want to stay survive, you must be a devil.” Both groups have kept their bloodlines and their identity. Both are secretive. Both groups live double lives. Gypsy children will be given a secret magical name, and a name to use for outsiders. Gypsy children are often baptized in a magical circle. Both groups are into the occult, such as cannibalism, black magic, the evil eye, and white slavery. The gypsies believe in Charani, a big bird consumed by fire who rises from the ashes. The Illuminati call this the Phoenix. Both groups have a secret code that allows them to do anything to outsiders (who are called “Gadja” by gypsies meaning “enemy”). The gypsies originated in India and migrated west to Iran and Turkey and then to Greece and then into western Europe in the 1400s just prior to an occult revival in Europe.

The largest gypsy tribe in India is Ghor. They follow Durga (Kali). Other tribes also worship Kali under different names such as the Black Virgin for which they make an effigy called “Bibiaca” which simply means “lady”. Gypsies made up early groups of travelling entertainers. Sir Francis Bacon, who wrote under the pen name of Shakespeare, was the founder/leader of the Rosicrucians of his time. (The proof of who Shakespeare was is in several books, for instance, see Alfred Dodd’s research in his excellent book Francis Bacon ‘s Personal Life Story.) The previous two paragraphs are offered as examples of how close the occult world and entertainment have been over the centuries. The history of the two worlds coincide for many centuries back, so it shouldn’t come as a surprise that today’s entertainment industry is still closely linked to the occult world, nor should it come as a surprise that the Illuminati have made sure they have control over the industry.

During W.W.II, the entire country was mobilized for the war effort and Hollywood was recruited so to speak to help with the war effort. For instance, cartoons were created as training films and as war propaganda. The military hired thousands of entertainers for USO Camp Shows, Inc. which was under the Special Services Division of the U.S. Army. Bob Hope, who worked for MI-6, British overseas intelligence, was the leading entertainer for USO tours. After the war broke out, he went on 12 major overseas tours which took him and his beautiful troop of stunning knock-out girls to every front of the war--from the quiet fronts like Panama to places like Italy and North Africa. To make a long story short, Bob Hope was used to run messages to programmed multiples for British & American Intelligence. Later, after the war Bob Hope became a slave handler. In some of Fritz’s other writings, Bob Hope’s connections to the Illuminati are gone into.

U.S.O. magicians were found to be the most overall popular USO show. The International Brotherhood of Magicians is intimately connected to the occult world and puts out a magazine The Linking Ring. Under the auspices of the USO (controlled by military intelligence) the country western industry’s roots developed. The country western industry became a front for drug running, money laundering and white slavery for the Programmers of Monarch total Mind-controlled slaves. The USO also created at least 200 bands, from which came Lawrence Welk’s band, Sam Donahue’s band, Claude Thombill’s band, and Guy Lombardo’s band to name a few. Over the last 45 years perhaps the most popular place for couriers to be signalled to meet was by someone holding a bird in a cage or at a shop with birdcages. The allusion to carrier pigeons is so obvious. Look at a caption “Speaking of WRENS” with a cartoon from Bob Hope’s book I Never Left Home (NY: Simon & Schuster, 1944) written in 1944 during the middle of W.W. II. The cartoon shows Bob chasing a girl with a bird cage and saying, “Tweet, Tweet, Tweet.” Hypnotic commands are given 3 times. What seems like a harmless cartoon, is more like a signal telling people that Bob Hope is in charge of a flock of carrier pigeons (couriers), which we know he was. When talking to a group of soldiers during the war, Bob said, “In London the bobbies caught a guy walking around in the fog with a bird cage giving the mating call but the American counsel got me.”

Walter Bowart in his researcher’s edition of Operation Mind Control discusses the case of two W.W. II vets, who had their W.W. II memories erased by the military using drugs, hypnosis and behavior modification, before they were released from the army in 1947. This is found in Cassiday, Karen and Judith A. Lyons. “Recall of Traumatic Memories Following Cerebral Vascular Accident” Journal of Traumatic Stress. NY: Plenum Pub. Vol. 5, No. 4, Oct. 1992, p. 627. The point is that evidence is surfacing from various locations that the U.S. government was carrying out mind-control during WW II. This was done under the auspices of British Intelligence (MI-6) during W.W. II. When Canada entered the W.W. II with Britain, one of the best british secret agent training schools was set up between Whitly, Ont. and Oshawa, Ont. on Lake Ontario’s north shore across from the U.S.-Can. border. The site was called Intrepid Park. Agents called it “the camp” or “the farm”. Today, the CIA have their own “farm” (Camp Perry). The official British name for this spy camp was British Security Coordination Special Training School No. 103 & Hydra. STS 103. It was also known as Camp X. British SOE (Special Operations Executive) set itself in NYC. Americans from the FBI and OSS went to Camp X for training, as well as the SOE,SIS, BSC, and the Canadian RCMP. The British were already using mind-control at this stage.

The connections are endless. Edgar Allen Poe, who was into the occult and worked for British intelligence wrote The Raven. Vincent Price starred in Hollywood’s version of the Raven, and passages of the book have been used as codes for a number of Monarch slaves, who had to memorize portions of the book with their photographic memories. Warner Communications came out with the book/& movie “Sybil” which is about a woman with multiple personalities. The book and movie “Sybil” are full of mental slides (misinformation detours are called “slides” by the CIA) to prevent people from looking and thinking in the right directions concerning MPD. Structured MPD (DID) like Sybil’s, occurs only from very specific trauma-based programming. Even the name Sybil is an occult name, although the idea that occult was involved in creating Sybil’s MPD is not hinted at. The chief financial power behind Warner Communications was the Illuminati/Pilgrim Society member Eugene R. Black, retired head of the World Bank. Warner Communications is headquartered at Rockefeller Plaza, and has produced quite a few occult movies and occult books, for instance their movie about a demon “It Lives Again.” When Monarch slaves watch television, the shows they watch can relate to their programming in the following ways.

1. First, many of the shows have code words or programming scenarios which are deliberately in the shows to control the slaves: such as Star Wars, Star Trek, The Wizard of Oz, the Love Boat, Fantasy Island, I Dream of Jeanie (Delta Genie in the bottle programming, and “YOUR WISH IS MY COMMAND” type trigger), The Little Princess, the Miss Universe Contest 1995, Duck Tails (created to control child slaves, with deliberate triggers such as “earthquack”), Bobby’s World cartoon, Steven Spielberg’s Tiny Toons, My Fair Lady (used in several of the slave finishing schools), ET (for alien programming), etc.

2. Some of the shows which are supposedly pure fiction show elements of actual Illuminati ceremonies, Illuminati history, drug running methods, etc., such Bell, Book & Candle, Burn Witch Burn, Curse of The Voodoo, Equinox, Manos, The Hands of Fate, Witchcraft ‘70, as Spirits of the Living Dead, Frankenstein, Night of the Living Dead, Bewitched (with actual witches as actors). Raising Cain shows torture and MPD. Hellraiser 3 depicts “gatekeepers.”

3. Some of the shows portray the Monarch total mind-control program (!): Telephon, The Manchurian Candidate, Videodrome, Labyrinth, Trancer II, The Attack of the Robots, Dr. Goldfoot & the Bikini Machine, Attack of the Puppet People, The War of the Zombies, Colossus-The Forbin Project, and The Point of No Return starring Jane Fonda’s Bridgett, who is connected to the OTO. (By the way, Monarch mind-controlled slaves have been shown the movie “Telephon” to emphasize to them that their minds are controlled by their handlers, and for them not to forget it.)

4. Many of the movies and shows use Monarch slaves as actors & performers: such as Rosanne Barr, Bette Mittler, Marilyn Monroe, Loretta Lynn, Crystal Gayle and possibly Wayne Newton (a child singing protege, who never wrote a check for himself in his life). They also use lots of slave handlers such as Frank Sinatra, Peter Lawford, & Bob Hope. And occasionally the use programmers such as Anton LaVey, Jerry Lee Lewis. Cisco Wheeler, the co-author of this book, while in the Illuminati, was given repeated reason to believe that Elvis Presley was also a Multiple programmed by the Illuminati. We know that at times he went by code names, one which is publicly known was John Burrows. His group, called the Memphis Mafia, have talked about his ability to go into altered states of consciousness, even seem dead. Recently, another Illuminati slave, also stated that Elvis was an Illuminati slave. Cisco points out that Elvis’ twin brother was dead at his birth, and that Elvis knew that this gave him double spiritual power (according to Illuminati beliefs). The Illuminati will often kill a twin, so that the other will get the power of two souls. From what we understand, Elvis Presley’s handler/programmer was a Col. Tom Parker. Elvis belonged to a team of 4 Illuminati men. Elvis is publicly known to have studied yoga, numerology, drugs, and received some new age spiritual training in an academy overlooking Pasadena, CA. He was an active member in the Theosophical Society. After Elvis Presley supposedly died, the Sun International Corp. came out with an Elvis Presley album called Orion, with the winged-sun-disk on its cover.

The winged-sun-disk is an important Egyptian magical symbol used by the O.T.O. [Ordo Templi Orientis-satanic occult organization founded by German occultist Karl Kellner in 1896], Theosophical Society etc. Mae Boren Axton, known as the Grand Dame of Nashville, played a pivotal role in Elvis Presley’s life. Elvis & the Beatles were chosen by the Illuminati to introduce rock music to the United States. There is no doubt about Elvis’ and the Beatles’ musical talent. Elvis’ close friend Wayne Newton is highly suspected as also being a slave. Elvis worked with Burt Reynolds and Jerry Lee Lewis who also connect in with the Illuminati’s mind-control operations. The authors are puzzled why Elvis’ grave, which had millions of dollars spent on its security, has his name misspelled? We are also puzzled why Elvis, who repeatedly stated he wanted to be buried beside his mother, is buried beside his father, who he privately stated wasn’t even his real father. Why has no one ever tried to collect insurance on Elvis’ death? Once again, it seems, the front stories that the public hears are full of inconsistencies. We believe that some people in the Illuminati know the true story about Elvis Presley. For sure Elvis’ mysterious mind-control programmer/handler Col. Tom Parker would know.

STAR TREK, THE NEXT GENERATION
The original series of Star Trek had lost money, but in September, 1987 a new series called Star Trek, The Next Generation was started with $1 million dollars budgeted for each of its 24 episodes. The episodes pushed the Illuminati’s agenda in every show. People were being aroused to bombard Paramount with requests for a new Star Trek. Bob Justman who worked with Gene Roddenberry said, “When I left Star Trek in 1968 it was a disaster. It was a failure as far as the network was concerned.” That is because it didn’t make money. Hollywood tells us it makes these movies because they are what the public want and that they have to go where the money is--the closer truth is that Hollywood makes movies that push an agenda--Hollywood makes movies that Hollywood wants to make. And since Star Trek was part of the NWO’s mind-control, the show and it successors had to go on. How important is Star Trek? A witness has talked about Boeing workers sneaking off their jobs and hiding in the tunnels underneath the hugh Seattle Boeing plant so they could watch Star Trek shows. This enormous Boeing plant is used for rituals and mind-control.

This Boeing building is enormous, for it is where they have assembly lines to build the hugh jets, like the 747s, 707s, etc. An extensive maze of tunnels lays underneath the main building, large enough to accommodate all the tens of thousands of workers on any shift. It is interesting who was associated with the production of Star Trek: The Next Generation. Script writers for the Next Generation had a Star Trek Bible to write from. These script writers included such persons as Alan Adler, Dennis Putnam Bailey, three Grays, Debra Mclntrye, Ronald Moore, Grant Rosenberg, Randee Russell, Bryan Stewart. These are common names within the Illuminati. Coca-cola, an Illuminati-run corporation, was one of the major advertisers for Star Trek, and the god-man Dalai Lama of Tibet, who is a Star Trek fan, visited the cast of Star Trek in 1988 in Hollywood and got his picture taken with members of the cast. Probert who worked with Star Trek productions also worked with Walt Disney’s Imagineering subsidiary. Here are some of the Star Trek scenes:

(A Wizard of Oz head is shown on a show) Data is a humanoid with an on-off switch who can store vast amounts of data. His memories can be so strong that personalities in those memories fight for control of Data. (See the episode aired 1/23/89).

Holodeck creations of people (humans who are mirror images) who are aware of themselves. This is a well-used concept for programming Monarch alters. The first episode with this aired 1/1 1/88 and got several awards--an Emmy Award, and an award from the George Foster Peabody Award board.

A few other items which will show the reader the occult agenda of Star Trek, the Next Generation and how it fits into the mind-control programming (airing dates shown in parenthesis):

1. a Reptilian Race called Tellisians (10/12/87),

2. a Cosmological Egg-from the cabalistic magical world view (10/26/87),

3. a brain scanned by a probe (11/9/87),

4. age regression,

5. reverse aging and memory loss (2/8/88),

6. android duels & a crystalline body (1/18/88),

7. a race of computer operators (2/1/88),

8. an ozone hole in the atmosphere kills a planet (2/15/88),

9. a matriarchal oligarchy--shades of the Mother of Darkness’s oligarchy (1/25/88),

10. people who are only holographic projections (4/11/88),

11. a cyberneticist & androids (2/13/89),

12. doubles (mirror images) (4/3/89),

13. half-human half-robot people (5/8/89),

14. clones of people (5/22/89),

15. a holodeck person who doesn’t know his last name (6/19/89),

16. Betazoids (11/13/89), and a drug which causes hysterical paranoia (7/17/89).

Colorado is the area where trauma-based alien-theme programming is carried out with a mock UFO. Gaston, one of the programmers in that area, is turning out top secret Monarchs with solometric systems. NORAD and Colorado Springs and several other Colorado locations are major headquarters for End-Time Call Back programming. Interestingly, they have placed the Star Trek Fan Club in Colorado.

VIDEODROME
This recent movie portrays Monarch Mind Control and S&M. Mind-controlled slaves are frequently used to create S&M films. The Illuminati’s S&M porn film industry has been booming for over 4 decades. (Compare the name Videodrome with Vidimax mentioned above.) The porn films done of a particular Monarch slave who is used as a porn star will be coded according to the code name given to the star. Let’s say they call the Star “Lily”, then the porn movies will be cataloged Lily 1, Lily 2, Lily 3, etc. This type of porn involves a great deal of real torture, humiliation, and actual deaths of people. This type of porn is portrayed in the Hollywood movie Videodrome. The main character in Videodrome represents what a mind-controlled slave would see. The main character Max is told, “I want you to open up to me.” He then feels intense pain and doubles up and falls down, and submits, “all right.” Then he is ordered to “Give us channel 83.” He then proceeds under the mind-control to kill two partners, who he has previously liked and with whom he has had no quarrels. He is further told, “You are an assassin for Videodrome. They can program you. They can make you do what they want.” Interestingly, the name of the brand of cigars smoked on the show are named Medicis. He is told, “To become the new flesh you must kill the old flesh.” This is the type of suicide programming given Monarch slaves. He is ordered, “Come to Mickey.” Mickey happens to be part of Mickey Mouse programming and one of the nicknames of the programmer Michael Aquino. He is then shown a picture of suicide. Then the hypnotic command, “Come to Mickey” is said three times. “Long live the new flesh.” The movie announces, “The battle for the mind of North America will be fought in Videodrome.”

TRANCER II
This is also billed as a “cult classic”. Who decides what is a “cult classic”? At any rate, this is another film which depicts part of the Monarch total mind-control. We will not take the space to cover it in depth, but will touch on a few items here. The main character is McKnowlty which sounds a lot like MK Ultra. Is it a play on words? It could be. A council like the Illuminati’s with lifetime appointments is in the film. The persons under control in Trancer II bear some resemblance to the Monarchs. Some of the language that is used is lifted from the language that handlers use. “FOLLOW MY INSTRUCTIONS, SLEEP, SLEEP, SLEEP” a person is instructed. “RABBIT SPEAKING”, “YOU BELONG IN A GREEN WORLD.” The movie also has Freeze codes which are a color.

KRULL
This 1983 movie with Ken Marshall and Lysette Anthony is just one more example of hundreds of Hollywood movies which show some aspect of the Illuminati &/or their mind-control. Krull is an island ruled by sorcery. A prince searches for a magic ornament to save his bride and their kingdom. The film has a poppy field, castles, an All-Seeing-Eye, armies of robots, Satan, and other features that a Monarch internal world will be set up with. A person can turn into a dog, pig or lion.

THE LITTLE PRINCESS
This Shirley Temple movie was just one of many Hollywood films used for programming. The princess has a nice “dream”. Slaves are programmed to view their service in the real world as dreams, and their fantasy worlds in their internal mind as reality. The Princess has a scene with hot cross buns and ravens. This scene was used for programming. The Princess sits on a throne. There are fairies and a joker, which are used in programming. The father is said to be dead, but is not dead in this movie---thus creating the type of reversal that the programmers like to work into the minds of slaves. A rich genie helps the princess, and when she finds her Daddy, she wakes him up with a kiss and a song. The girl’s name is Sarah, a name which appears within a number of Monarch system’s as an alter name.

MISS UNIVERSE CONTEST
The broadcast of the 1995 Miss Universe Contest did a very unusual freeze-framing of the show while it was on. The screen was mysteriously freeze-framed 9 times, this was a trigger for Illuminati Mothers of Darkness alters. A Mother of Darkness type throne was sat upon by the winner of the contest. An all-seeing-eye was flashed up on the screen with the code A MAY ZING written on it. This is the type of puns that the programmers enjoy. The winners of the contest came from INDIA, CANADA, and the USA. The order and names of those countries have to do with end times programming. The names were a code to certain Mothers of Darkness systems. India wore a Mother of Darkness type garment. Canada wore black and white, and USA wore Red. Miss India gave another code during the interviews, “If someone wants to put monkey’s on your back, if you stand up they get on your back.”

THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE
In 1958, the author Richard Condon had his novel The Manchurian Candidate published which describes an American Army sergeant, who is captured and programmed to assassinate on the cue of a queen of diamonds of a deck of cards. Richard Condon’ s ability to think about the potential of behavior modification and hypnosis, had allowed him to stumble upon what had actually been going for over a decade. Frank Sinatra bought the movie rights for this book, let the movie out briefly and then squelched the second release of the film. Frank Sinatra has been a slave handler. He has handled Bob Hope’s slaves, when Bob Hope has lent them to the Rat Pack (which consisted of Dean Martin, Frank, Sammy Davis, Jr. Peter Lawford & Joey Bishop). Frank Sinatra spends time with the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds. Both he and Dean Martin have handled slaves. Dean Martin was described by The Hollywood Reporter as a “hypnotically attractive, homegrown American monster.” In Fritz’s previous writings he has exposed how Peter Lawford & Sammy Davis, Jr. were satanists. Dean had the audacity to want to bring out a Monarch slave on his T.V. show on a leash in a tiger outfit. As mentioned previously, the sexual alters see themselves as kittens or cats and are given obedience training with the type of collar Dean wanted to bring them out on stage with on television. The television network stopped it. As Frank Sinatra grew up, his parents always had money.

His mother was a cigar-smoking, cruel, and foul-mouth woman who performed illegal abortions. She got caught once and had to face the penalty on Feb. 27, ‘39 in a Hudson Special Sessions Court. Frank’s hero was Benjamin “Bugsy” Siegel, boss of Murder, Inc. About 30% of the dirty work for the Illuminati is carried out by the Mafia. The Illuminati have their own death squads which are superior to the Mafia, but individuals must approach one of the Illuminati councils for approval to assassinate. Often it is easier for someone in the Illuminati just to put out an unauthorized contract than to go through proper channels. Bugsy associated with all the Mafia heads including Charlie “Lucky” Luciano who controlled mind-controlled slave Marilyn Monroe. Both Frank Sinatra and CIA mind-control programmer William Joseph Bryan, Jr. (aka William Joseph Bryon, and William Jenning Bryan III, etc.) were members of the Tommy Dorsey Band. Bryan programmed people while he was with the Air Force as Chief of Medical Survival Training which was the Air Force’s covert mind-control section. Later he opened up his own hypnotherapy Institute on Sunset Strip in Hollywood where he programmed some people in the Illuminati who are actors. He also was the person who programmed Sirhan Sirhan to be involved in the Robert Kennedy assassination.

He also hypnotised Alvert Di Salvo. After Bryan died in Spring, 1977, the CIA cleaned out all of his files including his home files. Bryan was fat, 6’ 1 1/2”, and a Satanic priest in the Old Roman Catholic church. This is the same satanic church that William Schnoebelen was a Satanic priest in, before giving his life to Christ. (Bill Schnoebelen tells his own story in Lucifer Dethroned. Chino, CA: Chick Publications, 1993.) Schnoebelen was offered a slave, but turned down the opportunity to be a handler. In William J. Bryan, Jr.’s book entitled The Chosen One The Art of Jury Selection, Bryan teaches how to use hypnosis on jury members to win one’s case. On the back of the book he states about himself, “In addition, Dr. Bryan served as an Electronics Engineer in the Navy in World War II, was Director of all Medical Survival Training for the United States Air Force, and a leading expert on brainwashing.”

William J. Bryan was the technical director for Frank Sinatra’s movie The Manchurian Candidate. It was hoped that the movie would scare Americans into thinking that the enemy (the communists) was carrying out mind-control.

THE SIMPSON CARTOONS
There are episodes of the Simpsons which blatantly promote the Freemasons, the Illuminati and even show items of the Monarch mind-control such as “following the Yellow Brick Road.” The episodes are quite revealing. Aspects of Illuminati programming can also be seen in the movie “Spirits of the Dead”, where spirit copies of one’s abusers are placed into the slave, and the movie “Cat Girl”, where a beautiful girl is turned into a killer beast. Several movies have come out showing the concept of creating robotic people such as the 1920’s movie Golem, the 1966 movie Cyborg 2087, and the movie Frankenstein. According to Illuminati history, the Collins Illuminati bloodline did pre-2Oth century experiments to create a Frankenstein, and Mary Shelley’s novel is actually secretly based on their research [Also, Clive Collins may have been the name of the actor who played the role of the mad scientist who created the Frankenstein monster in the original 1930's movie starring Boris Karloff]

The Rothschilds have carried out successful production of synthetic people this century. This is all in accord with the black magic goal of controlling bodies, whether live or dead. The 90 minute film, “Night of the Living Dead,” expresses the satanic black magic goal to control bodies. And if the Illuminati can’t control their slaves, the final solution, if nothing else works, is to (as the CIA say) “terminate with extreme prejudice” (a.k.a “Executive Action”), like they did to Mary Pinchot Meyer on Oct. 13, 1964, Princess Grace Kelly & countless others.

E - TWINNING & BONDING

Two Sisters-of-Light (the level before Mothers-of-Darkness) will be placed before a many-faced mirror with intense lights and programmed to see each other as inseparable. They become twins, and are programmed to die if the other one dies. They are taught to be one in body, mind, and soul. They are bonded in many ways, including torturing each other, and sexual bonding. The trauma bonding that they undergo will consist of a. being put in life or death situations together, b. given programming scripts which intertwine & fill in to complete each other to make a whole, c. are placed in jobs that require total compliance with the programming in order to survive, d. are bonded together to other people. The scripture “A house divided against itself cannot stand” (MT 12:25, MK 3:25) is used to program people to stay in line with what the team is doing. High level four-person female teams and a four-person males team are programmed to work together after the Anti-Christ takes over. These types of teams form the male-female component of a larger 3-part team. With the advent of advanced medical technology the Illuminati are now able to make quintriplets, implant the eggs in surrogates, and then switch the identical children during their lifetimes. This type of high level subterfuge is going on, and it makes the identities of some slaves complicated to say the least. Readers may want to get some of the articles Fritz has written about the clones, synthetic people, organic robotoids, and double look-alikes that the Rothschilds and the rest of the Illuminati families are engaged in creating. The twinning programming is very complex and detailed. Within the Rothschild bloodlines--the 5 family lines that began with Mayer Amschel’s 5 sons going to 5 capitals- network/bond their female slaves together with Gennifer-Sally-Elsie-Sarah-Penelope programming. (The 6th son to finish the red schield hexagram is/was a bastard.) This is all part of a complex satanic world mind that is being created. This is the Adam Kadmon. Twins (& teams) claim to be telepathic with each other, and observations of slaves, has tended to support that claim. Many therapists have failed to take the twinning part of the programming into account. Twins must be deprogrammed together for best results, if one is left out they may try to impede therapy.

F. PEER PRESSURE

At the beginning of the programming, the Programmers are dealing with a small infant who is unable to verbalize to others about their abuse. They are further frightened in every way, and tortured, and given behavior modification to teach them to remain silent. Even without all these strong threats which always exist, the child would not capable of fighting back. The child will naturally think this is the way the world is, and of course, the programmers are reinforcing the idea that this is the heritage or path that the child is supposed to be following. The dissociative parts of the child do not fully comprehend that being sexually assaulted daily by their father is wrong. They are being misled by their abuser that it is correct, that that is their purpose in life. The child is never given a chance to realize that it has a right to refuse. It is conditioned to obedience. The abuse seems to be just another part of things that belong to the world of adults. For children, adults do many things beyond comprehension, at times ridiculous. And they seem to need no reason to do these things, except for the fact that they are adults. Other adults that come and go are also participants in the abuse, so the child doesn’t grasp that he can be defended by other adults. The programmers are always doing unexpected things to the child, so the child quits trying to figure life out, and fatalistically complies with what it is expected to do. Children all over the world grow up in an adult world, and are at the mercy of adults.

As the alters begin to experience life, they are generally in situations where the attitudes of the people around them, reinforce their programming. Boys are told by society in general to take their lumps in life “like a man”. They are taught to fight their own battles, and not to whine. Few boys risk the shame that comes from talking about their abuse. Society is not kind to “whiners”. Females are permitted to show emotions, without the social sanctions levied on males. If the child victim of mind-control comes from a family where only one of the parents is a participant in the abuse, then what often happens is that the clean parent, will never even discuss abuse issues with their child. Few adults ever really discuss abuse issues with children. The child is generally isolated from their peers as much as possible by the child’s handler’s and programmers. They place other children that belong to the cult in the child’s life to report on what the child is doing. When the child victim begins to “stretch their wings” so to speak and meet other people, there are very few people that will threaten the control of the programmers.

When the slave does find a good therapist to make friends with, this friendship will trigger all kinds of programming, unresolved issues around adults, trust, etc. The slave feels double-binded. If they move toward health and freedom, it creates many more problems than staying in slavery. They need tosee the bigger picture. They need to be given something positive to live for outside of the slavery. Psychiatrists are not permitted by their boards to get personally involved in their clients lives. Traditional therapy doesn’t address some of the issues that will stop the slave from wanting to gain freedom. Internal peer pressure from multitudes of programmed loyal deeper alters, and external peer pressure from cult children the victim is bonded to, begins to exert an overpowering force for the child to stay on the beaten path. Few people ever buck the system, and go against peer pressure. Someone as hurt and docile as a slave is going to want acceptance, and is not likely going to want to step out of line with society and their peers. Until society admits that there is a problem with mind-control, it will be a dangerous thing socially for a child slave to admit to what the victim is actually experiencing every day.

Are there any HAGABARDS or MOSES?

Now the reader has the FORMULA for the mind control. Now what? These programmed multiples continue to eat away at the moral fiber every one of America’s Institutions like an army of termites. On the outside the structures still look strong, but they are being readied to collapse, for the reign of the Illuminati’s AntiChrist. There is a series of books called the Illuminati books which are a fictional account of how the Illuminati run the world. In the novels, the Illuminati run essentially everything--which is actually what is happening. The hero, Hagabard fights against this ancient conspiracy. Who isn’t familiar with the Biblical example of the elite ruler, who leaves his place of royalty to lead a nation in slavery to freedom? this hero’s name is Moses. He also frees the people spiritually from the spiritual bonds of their hermetic magical culture. If there are any Hagabards or Moses’ or Aarons out there, it is time to buck this World System. “LET OUR PEOPLE GO. LET OUR CHILDREN GO.” Thus saith the LORD, Let my people go, that they may serve Me. (EX 8:1b)

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The late Corey Haim (left) and Corey Feldman pose outside Las Palmas club October 17, 2001 in Hollywood, CA. Feldman says in his new book that Haim was molested.

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Corey Feldman has an upcoming memoir titled "Coreyography"

In it he writes that the late Corey Haim was sexually abused in a movie set.
Feldman says he was also exposed to sexual abused.

Corey Feldman and the late Corey Haim — known at the height of their popularity as "the Two Coreys" — were iconic '80s teen stars who dealt with more adult problems behind the scenes. In his upcoming memoir Coreyography (Oct. 29), Feldman, 42, details the sexual abuse he and Haim experienced while working in Hollywood.

According to Feldman, Haim told him about an incident on the set of the 1986 film "Lucas":

"Haim started to confide in me, about some intensely personal stuff, very quickly ... Within hours of our first meeting, we found ourselves talking about Lucas, the film he made in the summer of 1985, the role I had wanted for myself. At some point during the filming, he explained, an adult male convinced him that its was perfectly normal for older men and younger boys in the business to have sexual relations, that it was what all the 'guys do.' So, they walked off to a secluded area between two trailers, during a lunch break for the cast and crew, and Haim, innocent and ambitious as he was, allowed himself to be sodomized."

EW: Corey Feldman claims pedophilia top danger for child stars, but won't name names?

Feldman recalls that Haim, 11 years old at the time, said, "I guess we should play around like that, too?"

While Feldman never acted on his friend's suggestion, he did encounter more sexual abuse later on from the adults around him, including an older male Feldman had hired as his assistant who he calls "Ron Crimson" in the book. Crimson allegedly performed oral sex on Feldman after he encouraged a teenaged Feldman to take a cocktail of pills. Feldman writes that in his that in his teen years he was constantly surrounded by pedophiles.

Feldman's childhood was so troubled that he looked to his friend Michael Jackson, introduced to him by director Steven Spielberg, for normalcy. "Michael Jackson's world, crazy as it sounds, had become my happy place," he writes. "Being with Michael brought me back to my innocence. When I was with Michael, it was like being 10 years old again." Feldman stresses in the book that Jackson never once acted inappropriately toward him.

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In the introduction, Feldman refuses to disclose the identity of Haim's alleged rapist, who he claims is "one of the most successful people in the entertainment industry." "You can't go around publicly accusing industry titans without expecting to find yourself in the middle of a nasty lawsuit," writes Feldman, "to say nothing of the potential threat to my career, as well as to the personal safety of myself and my son."

Coreyography acts in part as a warning to parents pushing their children into show business. Feldman claimed on a 2011 episode of Nightline and repeats in the book that the "number one problem in Hollywood was, and is, and always will be pedophilia."

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Feldman was introduced to Michael Jackson by Spielberg and looked to him for normalcy? Huh?

Steven Spielberg; Hmmmmmm.

I'd say he is one of the biggest names in the entertainment industry.

Again, Neverland. A place where less fortunate children we're fortunate to be invited to and how many claims of sexual abuse by Michael?

Let's not even talk about Bill Cosby!