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08-18-2007, 07:53 PM
If Springsteen retired the songs that NOBODY wants to hear or MAKE NO SENSE, he'd have about five left.

Add "Little girl, I Wanna Marry You" to the list.


Just wondering.

Why did Elvis Costello come to Patti's parent's farmhouse and why do Patti and Bruce allow their son, Sam, to panhaddle?

08-18-2007, 07:55 PM
Why does "Unholy Bruce" need a bodyguard?

08-18-2007, 08:02 PM

I'm Still the Same!
Movin' game to game
no one standin' in my way
turnin' on the charm
long enough to get me by
and I'm still the same
I still aim high

08-18-2007, 08:04 PM
Patti frowns on Springsteen for getting it in on with other chicks!


That's all she does is frown!

Sounds about right!

08-18-2007, 08:07 PM
Mary's dressed WAVED, MadMel.

Remember, "screen door slams and Mary's dress waves."

As far as Springsteen's valuable time, his days are numbered, so, in that sense, his time is valuable.

Use it wisely!

08-18-2007, 08:25 PM
I'm sure PATS accepts everything about you, "Unholy Bruce."

She likes the money too much not to!

That's the only relationship you're capable of having, IMO!

Without you, she wouldn't have been able to produce three CD's spanning thirty years.

It's not often that singers of her caliber get to pretend they're big time in the music industry.

Ridin' on your coat tails!

Boy, did she take you for a ride or what?

08-18-2007, 08:30 PM
Taxi Cab Driver!

Are you kidding me??

"Some people want to die young and gloriously!"

What an uplifting song.

Keep them comin' Springsteen.

I know your depressed "cult" following finds your "whacko" songs invigorating.

08-18-2007, 08:43 PM
Fans are talking about how every last dollar they have is going into the tour. How they're going broke. How one poster has loved Springsteen since she was eight years old and her mother thought it was a passing fad. Her husband has golf and she has Springsteen.

The rich get richer (Springsteen) and the poor get poorer.

A rich man in poor man's clothes.

08-18-2007, 09:13 PM

"Fanatics" are praying that Springsteen's new album sells millions.

As if somehow they share in this wealth.

As if Springsteen needs the money.


They just want him to have the glory!

They want their "cult" leader to prosper because they LOVE him so MUCH!!!

See how sick this is!!

As if there aren't starving people all across the globe!

As if Springsteen is starving and he needs to sell a million CD's.

They're praying for this!

Oh, LORD, I pray you help them see the light!

08-18-2007, 09:15 PM
Oh, yes, whenever someone makes a positive comment about Springsteen, a dissertation, whatever, the "GUARDS" are there to pat them on the back with a "very well said" comment.

08-18-2007, 09:21 PM
Yep! My dress always swayed when the screen door slammed at my Daddy's house and I was sittin' on the front porch just cryin' about havin' been born and Roy Orbison was playin' for the lonely.

But, MadMel, being the Springsteen afficianado that she is thinks its swaves.

Why is she making up words?

She said they were all writers at the BTX Political World and making up words was a no, no!

08-18-2007, 09:25 PM
By the way, "Unholy Bruce," your signature picture of Springsteen and Patti, well, you might like it, but, it's really old, and, quite frankly, it might do it for you, but it doesn't really mean anything to anyone else.

I mean, when I look at a picture of myself and my husband in an intimate moment, it does it for me, but I don't send it out with my Christmas cards.

08-18-2007, 09:35 PM
Geez, MadMel, come on.

He feel on you in a bar.

Springsteen fell on you at a show.

How many missed opportunites are you going to squander?


A picture with The Boss!

I mean, that certainly is something to live for, isn't it?

What's the deal with his promotional picture?

Looks like they drug him out of bed or a bar!

08-18-2007, 09:40 PM
It made SoulBoogieAlex's night to read an article about how Springsteen's yet to be released new CD is sittin' in the Grammy's window.

Okay, whatever.

Yeah, now that you know that, I bet you can sleep better at night.

As long as Springsteen is doing great within the music industry, you're just swell.


08-18-2007, 09:45 PM
One poster comments that unsual folks have come crawling out of the woodowork ever since the new album was announced.

Are you in "la la land?"

No need to answer. We know you are.

You people are unusual!


there hasn't been a significant difference in folks that post at BTX since the earth-shattering annoucement.

He's fretting because he thinks it's going to get worse once the tour starts.


Such difficulties they must contend with in their lives.

08-18-2007, 09:55 PM



08-18-2007, 10:00 PM
Oh, yes, "Unholy Bruce," (by the way, the name befits you well), Patti's voice is impeccable. That's why when she sings with you, eveyone wishes she would STFU!

That's why they have to offer a collectible LRYICS sheet to the first 400 purchasers of her new CD.

What a lovely red-headed woman.

By the way, how old were your kids when you had to explain that song to them?

08-18-2007, 10:15 PM
"Songs that should be retired from the new show"

Retire them all.

Man, they are worn out.

So is Springsteen.

He looks like he needs a good night's sleep.

But, then again, he doesn't sleep.

It's a GIFT!

08-18-2007, 10:19 PM

Keep up your psychotic shit BA, I've given you plenty of leeway, it's over now!

You have been BANNED over 6 times on this forum. do you want another?

I will say this, I'M not your FUCKEN TORMENTOR! go look for another poster to harass. You keep on fucken insinuating that I'm someone else you CRAZY! now please fuck off and go away before your banned again.

Yours kindly

08-18-2007, 10:20 PM
They are on top of the Hurricane over there at BTX as they are with everything else in this world. NOT!

Anyway, a poster comments, and I find this hysterical. Thanks for the laugh.

"yes ... good God, a hurricane. Something that hasn't happened on average 8 times a year for ... say .. a few billion years ... this is unprecedented! Mother, gather the kids, we need to go to church, or do a sacrafice or something."

08-18-2007, 10:22 PM
redrat11 wrote:

Keep up your psychotic shit BA, I've given you plenty of leeway, it's over now!

You have been BANNED over 6 times on this forum. do you want another?

I will say this, I'M not your FUCKEN TORMENTOR! go look for another poster to harass. You keep on fucken insinuating that I'm someone else you CRAZY! now please fuck off and go away before your banned again.

Yours kindly

Hello, RedRat, what's the problem?

I'm on notice about what?

Are you the moderator of this forum?

Your six times figure is inaccurate and it's not really banning, my dear, it's more of a BREAK!!

I'm not harrassing you.

I don't keep on insinuating that you're someone else, either.

You insinuated that you were Bruce Springsteen.

08-18-2007, 10:26 PM
Kindly remove yourself from my thread, RedRat and stop harrassing me.

08-18-2007, 10:29 PM
RedRat has given me leeway.

What a joke!

08-18-2007, 10:31 PM
Seriously, that really old picture of Scailfa and Springsteen, with him in a purple puffy shirt, and her in an 80's hair-do should be banned.

It's 2007, for goodnesssakes!

08-18-2007, 10:32 PM
BlueAngel wrote:

redrat11 wrote:

Keep up your psychotic shit BA, I've given you plenty of leeway, it's over now!

You have been BANNED over 6 times on this forum. do you want another?

I will say this, I'M not your FUCKEN TORMENTOR! go look for another poster to harass. You keep on fucken insinuating that I'm someone else you CRAZY! now please fuck off and go away before your banned again.

Yours kindly

Hello, RedRat, what's the problem?

I'm on notice about what?

Are you the moderator of this forum?

You're six times figure is inaccurate and it's not really banning, my dear, it's more of a BREAK!!

I'm not harrassing you.

I don't keep on insinuating that you're someone else, either.

You insinuated that you were Bruce Springsteen.

Please go away Psycho, I will never understand your FUCKED mind BA, God knows I've tried, but you have continually crossed the line between HATE and HARRASSMENT, you are a deranged individual, now please JUST KINDLY FUCK OFF! it's one thing to accept your delusions that I'm Bruce whatever, but for you to take it to this level is utter insanity, it's best for you to get the hell out of here! before they toss you aGAIN. :-?

08-18-2007, 10:32 PM
What notice am I on, RedRat?

08-18-2007, 10:36 PM
RedRat said:

"Please go away Psycho, I will never understand your FUCKED mind BA, God knows I've tried, but you have continually crossed the line between HATE and HARRASSMENT, you are a deranged individual, now please JUST KINDLY FUCK OFF! it's one thing to accept your delusions that I'm Bruce whatever, but for you to take it to this level is utter insanity, it's best for you to get the hell out of here! before they toss you aGAIN."

No one is forcing you to try to understand anything. If you can't comprehend mind control within the music industry then don't. It's not a prerequisite for posting here.

However, I assure you that Henry Makow and other insiders do. So, don't worry your pretty little head about it.

It's not your problem.

Excuse me, RedRat, but I don't harrass you and I have not crossed any line.


I never said you were Bruce Springsteen.

That is what YOU SAID!

If they toss me again, it will be for my own good, because that's what they've always wanted for me.

08-18-2007, 10:40 PM
Just go a couple of pages back on this thread, RedRat, and you'll see where you said you were Bruce Springsteen.

08-18-2007, 10:52 PM
I'm looking for the post where you proclaimed you were Bruce Springsteen, RedRat.

Can't find it right now.

But, I'll find it tomorrow, or the next day.

Doesn't matter.

It's on this thread and also on the original thread in which you stated that you were BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN.

That's how I operate. You know that.

If you say something pertinent to this thread on another thread, I copy it here.

Nothing gets by me.

I'm STILL THE SAME. No one's gotten to me yet!

So, in that respect, I'd say you would be delusional, eh?

08-18-2007, 11:03 PM
I am the AUTHOR of this thread, RedRat.

It is my personal story about being a victim of MKULTRA/Project Monarch and being used by the CIA/Music Industry as a "sex slave" and Bruce Springsten being my main handler/controller and abuser.

If you are on this thread without the intent of adding pertinent information regarding this "satanic cult" which Henry Makow writes about then you are trespassing and harrassing ME and you will be the one who is BANNED!

This is MY NOTICE to you!

08-18-2007, 11:12 PM
Really, Gman, you read the stories of each band member headin' down to Atlanta to record their parts for this album and it came together because MAGIC is what was required for that to happen.

Oh, what a bunch of baloney.

Where are the stories?

Can you post them for everyone else to read?

Geez, how hard is that?

They catch a plane.

Don't need to be together for some reason.

Must have a great sound mixer?

Oh, yes, that's MAGIC alright.

08-18-2007, 11:16 PM
Yeah, Gman, morals. Some people like them. Springsteen doesn't.

Starbucks didn't like Devils and Dust because of the $250.00 up the ar*se.

Gee, aint' it a pity that some companies don't want to sell trash for the music mobsters.

08-18-2007, 11:27 PM
What is wrong with you?

You seriously think Springsteen sets the ticket prices?

Get real.

They're talking about how they think HE'LL stick with this price and that price.

Oh, yeah. He has a pow wow with the promoters and Springsteen says, look, I wanna make sure my fans can afford this.

Half of you are talking about wiping out your bank accounts, going broke.

So, can you afford it?

Why do you think Springsteen is a a CASH COW for the music industry?

Because of you fools.

You don't attend one show. You attend, two, or three or four.

You travel!!

You follow!!

You're addicted!!

You're obsessed!!

You're infatuated!!



They know you'll go anyway because you are faithful followers. SHEEPLE!

They set the ticket prices and they don't keep you in mind.

It's about THEM!

08-18-2007, 11:47 PM
Blinded by the Light
Bruce Springsteen

Madman drummers bummers and Indians in the summer with a teenage diplomat
In the dumps with the mumps as the adolescent pumps his way into his hat
With a boulder on my shoulder feelin' kinda older I tripped the merry-go-round
With this very unpleasing sneezing and wheezing the calliope crashed to the
Some all-hot half-shot was headin' for the hot spot snappin' his fingers clappin'
his hands
And some fleshpot mascot was tied into a lover's knot with a whatnot in her hand
And now young Scott with a slingshot finally found a tender spot and throws his
lover in the sand
And some bloodshot forget-me-not whispers daddy's within earshot save the
buckshot turn up the band

And she was blinded by the light
Revved up like a deuce, another runner in the night
Blinded by the light
She got down but she never got up, she's gonna make it through the night.

Some brimstone baritone anti-cyclone rolling stone preacher from the east
He says: "Dethrone the dictaphone, hit it in its funny bone, that's where they
expect it least"
And some new-mown chaperone was standin' in the corner all alone watchin' the
young girls dance
And some fresh-sown moonstone was messin' with his frozen zone to remind him of
the feeling of romance

Yeah he was blinded by the light
Cut loose like a deuce another runner in the night
Blinded by the light
He got down but she never got tight, but he's gonna make it tonight

Some silicone sister with her manager's mister told me I got what it takes
She said I'll turn you on sonny, to something strong if you play that song with
the funky break,
And go-cart Mozart was checkin' out the weather chart to see if it was safe to
go outside
And little Early-Pearly came in by her curly-wurly and asked me if I needed a
Oh, some hazard from Harvard was skunked on beer playin' backyard bombardier
Yes and Scotland Yard was trying hard, they sent a dude with a calling card,
he said, do what you like, but don't do it here
Well I jumped up, turnedaround, spit in the air, fell on the ground
Asked him which was the way back home
He said take a right at the light, keep goin' straight until night, and then
boy, you're on your own

And now in Zanzibar a shootin' star was ridin' in a side car hummin' a lunar
Yes, and the avatar said blow the bar but first remove the cookie jar we're
gonna teach those boys to laugh too soon

And some kidnapped handicap was complainin' that he caught the clap from some
mousetrap he bought last night,

Well I unsnapped his skull cap and between his ears I saw
a gap but figured he'd be all right

He was just blinded by the light
Cut loose like a deuce another runner in the night
Blinded by the light
Mama always told me not to look into the sights of the sun


Oh, yeah, this song makes a whole lot of sense!

If not for the music, right?

Anyway, blinded by the light is common in mind control victims.

Bright lights shining in their eyes whether on cold, steel tables being poked and proded or in a field on a military base.

Bright lights from helicopters shining on you and there isn't anywhere to run or anywhere to hide.

Someone on BTX commented to the JIBBERMAN, Freeman, are you the person who wrote Blinded by the Light? You should go crawl under a rock.

That's funny.

But, the fact of the matter is. There wasn't even a rock to crawl under.

The helicopter lights come. You're in the spotlight. I was trapped against a fence near some brush and a net is dropped down. Naked.

Trapped like a wild animal.

Grey Bull Lodge.

08-18-2007, 11:54 PM
I dunno, RedRat, 41 views on this thread today and you seem to be the only agitated viewer.

Go figure!

08-19-2007, 01:40 PM
Ticket prices:

In 2005 The Rolling Stones and McCartney came in round $160 - $170 average ticket price, The Eagles came in just around $140-$150, with another a few more artists in the $120 range, U2 came in at around $95 average, with Bruce around $82-$85 average.

Perhaps if tickets to Springsteen shows cost more, he wouldn't attract as many purchasers because they're not willing to pay a higher price to see him.

You also have to take into consideration that Springsteen performs more with and without the E Street Band than the aforementioned musicians.

It's not a rarity when Springsteen produces a CD and or a tour that follows.

08-19-2007, 01:44 PM
A poster at BTX commented:

Live in Dublin is still on the number 6 or 8 position in the Netherlands depending on which chart you go to. With Magic being due in 6 weeks two top ten albums could very well be a possibility. Any other countries where this might happen?


Gee, I don't know, but I'm sure hoping so cause I'm very concerned as to Springsteen's sucesss.

When's he successful, it just makes my day.

08-19-2007, 01:48 PM
It makes one poster laugh because (on the Promised Land forum) people have been going on and on and on since 2005 about a new ESB tour, and then when its announced, they say "I hope we're not the first night coz they always suck".

08-19-2007, 06:46 PM
Town Called Heartbreak, Patti Scailfa video, very boring.

How would you know it was filmed in Springsteen's living room?

Been there, huh?

Oh, my and a snipet of Springsteen in the video, too!

Why couldn't you just say his name rather than referring to him as a certain someone?

Sounds like she needed to clear her throat and let loose.

Belt it out, but, she's not capable.

08-19-2007, 07:17 PM
I guess if Springsteen plays on Scailfa's records and appears in her videos, it makes it all the more appealing for his fans to buy her product.

Like, I said, they can't give her CD's away.

They're offering a "collectible" lyric sheet for enticement to the first 400 purchasers of her CD.

As if the "collectible" lyric sheet is more sought after than the CD.

08-19-2007, 07:23 PM
Frankly, I don't find Springsteen or his wife sexy.

Ugh, the purple shirt photo.


However, his fans really seem to enjoy watching their sensual moments together.


Are they imagining him having oral sex with her as in "Red Headed Woman?"

It's like a pornography show without all the details.

08-19-2007, 07:29 PM
Seems like "Unholy Bruce" doesn't have anything to say about his wife, Patti Scailfa, except sexual remarks!

It's funny, isn't it?

Sometimes when a man is homosexual he acts the heterosexual role "over the top" to cover it up.

Something about an identifying mark on Springsteen's buttocks.

All MKULTRA/Project Monarch victims have identifying marks.

This, so when a transfer was made the receiver was certain she/he was a slave.

08-19-2007, 07:34 PM
Oh, goodness, one poster states that the signature picture of Scailfa and Springsteen is killing her. It's about twenty years old. She notices that it's more than just a short skirt. It's serious chemistry with sparks/fireworks/lightening.



When I look at it, I see two people who are standing close to each other and that's about it.

It doesn't provoke anything else, thank goodness, like it does with Springsteen's fanatics.

Where does she come up with these sparks, fireworks and lightening?

Very good imagination, I presume!

08-19-2007, 07:41 PM
"Unholy Bruce" says that new boudoir-wear and role play help. He and Scailfa particularly like "Long-haul Driver and Truck-stop Waitress."


I guess "Unholy Bruce" is going to tell us next about his and Patti's "sadistic" sexual encounters.

08-19-2007, 07:45 PM
MadMel says that close to the end of Patti's video they've come closer to seeing her than they ever have before.

Don't you see her on every E Street Band tour?

What is the big deal about seeing her?

Has she been in hiding?

08-19-2007, 08:12 PM
I agree. When Springsteen sang "The Rising" at the Grammys, BORING!!!!

Sunny Days, put that in the vault forever, along with a whole bunch more.

Cause Springsteen is never gonna find a way and his Sunny Day's are numbered.

08-19-2007, 09:24 PM
IMO, Bruce Springsteen is on the list of the least sexiest men alive.

Now, my husband. He's on the list of the sexiest men alive.

08-19-2007, 09:36 PM
Oy, yes, Pamela, take a look at your skinny brother in a SPEEDO and drool over it.

MadMel is gaping over it. Her eyes can't take it.

A picture of Springsteen from the 70's and they're in awe of it.

Wake up! It's 2007. Or, haven't you noticed you're living in the past.

Believe me, not sexy at all.

I assume MadMel doesn't have a significant other in her life and those who do, well, they prefer to look at pictures of Springsteen from 30 years ago, that are quite unappealing and present pictures of him that look like he's something the cat drug in!

They must have been "blinded by the light" or experiencing "double vision."

Or, their vision is skewed due to an altered state of consciousness.

08-19-2007, 09:40 PM
Not all the guys wore speedos in the 70's, MadMel and when they did, not all of them had their arms wrapped around other males as Springsteen most often does.

There are alot of picturs out there with Springsteen hugging males.

He seems to be drawn to them.

And, this band that Evan likes, AGAINST something or other, the drummer has two tattoes of Springsteen.

Strange, to say the least!

08-19-2007, 09:43 PM
If this is the "E Street Band's" last tour (have no idea why his fanatics think this; just hype), why would finishing with Born to Run and Lift me Up be crazy?

What a weird comment.

08-19-2007, 09:47 PM
Oh, yeah, that "tighty whitey" photo of Springsteen on the balcony with Patti, while married to Julianne, how sexy!!

What "rose colored" glasses are you looking through?

Scrawny Springsteen says it best.

08-19-2007, 09:52 PM
Oh, yeah. Born to Run. What a great song. Wendy the tramp. In a town that rips the bones from your back. It's a death trap, a suicide rap, gotta get out while we're young.

Tramps like us, Baby, we were born to run.

Inasmuch as I'm Wendy.

I'll tell you this. I'm not a tramp, but Springseen is.

I escaped the cult when I was young, but he didn't.

I wouldn't trust him to guard anything of mine, let alone my dreams and visions.

08-19-2007, 09:57 PM
My husband is a saint.

He knows of what I speak.

He supports me in my endeavor.

But, could you imagine being married to someone who spends all day on a Bruce Springsteen site talking about him 24/7/365?

Are you married to your spouse, or Springsteen?

If you're not married, you never will be, because, apparently, you dream of Springsteen 24/7/365.

He's more important to you than anyone else.


He's sucked your life right out from under your feet.

08-19-2007, 10:01 PM
Special News Bulletin:

"Radio Nowhere," a song from Bruce Springsteen's "Magic" CD, soon to be released, premieres tomorrow!!

Please, stop everything you are doing at that moment.

The earth will probably shake and your "hero" will have saved the world.

08-19-2007, 10:21 PM
My goodness, MadMel, you made a typographical error.

Now, since you point these out to everyone who isn't on your political side of the spectrum, I think I should point it out to you.

MadMel said:

"Maybe Sil mean an "ideology"? At least, I think that's what he was getting at."

Hon, you made a typo!

For shame, for shame!

08-19-2007, 11:13 PM
Forgoodnesssakes, MadMel and DNA are discussing Springsteen's genitals as depicted in the Speedo he is wearing in a picture from the 70's.

MadMel comments that a speedo shows too much and DNA replies that what it shows is teensy.


A man and a woman discussing Springsteen's genitals.

08-19-2007, 11:23 PM
What is the deal with Scailfa hanging on the wall in her video, the tie she is wearing and the move she does during the verse, "work with me baby?"

She's 50 years plus.

It just ain't happenin.'

What audience does she thinks she's going to reach at this point in her career?

60 plus men?

08-19-2007, 11:34 PM
Yeah, DNA, like you would know a fine line between delusional, stupid, and evil. It's hard to tell one minute to the next which one you've crossed, isn't it?

08-19-2007, 11:37 PM
Oh, yeah, Patti is smokin' hot in the "Town called Heartbreak" video. That's why they can't keep her CD's on the shelf and she doesn't tour after her CD is released.

She has such a hugh male following!

08-19-2007, 11:53 PM
They're so adult like, aren't they?

MadMel and DNA are now discussing a new name for Neocons:


MadMel tried to say it 10x fast and it didn't roll off her tongue.

She has nothing better to do, apparently, then to try this exercise and write about it at BTX.

Now they're suggesting neoconpoop, instead.

But, MadMel says that doesn't work either. Sounds too much like - well, neocon droppings.

08-20-2007, 12:23 AM
Funny, isn't it?

Do they pay these people at BTX to say Scailfa is fine and sexy and has a great voice and they love her video, "Town Called Heartbreak?"

They must, as far as I'm concerned, cause most of them are on the payroll.

She certainly doesn't have any traffic at her own website.

Then there is all this talk about how she is a singer/songwriter in her own right and not because she's married to Springsteen, but the only accolades she receives is at his site at BTX.

Like my husband once said, nobody would know who she was if she wasn't married to Springsteen and he ought to know cause, afterall, he's married to a red-headed woman and besides all that, he's a very intelligent man!

08-20-2007, 12:24 AM
I think there is some other purpose, cause, you know, I have a very keen sense of perception.

08-20-2007, 12:35 AM
Yeah, I always FOLLOW A DREAM (Springsteen song) to find the love I need.

I don't live in dreams.

I live in REALITY!!

The reality YOU tried to suck me away from!

08-20-2007, 12:38 AM
Springsteen lives in dreams, walks in dreams, talks in dreams.

Follow that dream, dream, baby, dream, I dreamed of you in a field, I held you in my dreams, is a dream a lie....

Blah, blah, blah!

Dream this, dream that!


08-20-2007, 12:42 AM
Poor man wanna be rich
Rich man wanna be boss
And a boss ain't satisfied
Till he rules everything

08-20-2007, 12:53 AM
Dear Dr. Makow:

Thank you for allowing me the opportunity to make PEACE WITH MY PAST!


08-20-2007, 01:16 AM

Read this poetry by Springsteen from 1968 when he was 19 years old.

His poetry makes about as much sense as many of his songs that have followed since.

Some people are poets and their artistic abilities do not develop into songwriting.

They are poets, period! and most of them are starving.

People don't pay bucks to listen to poets.

So, they sell themselves to the devil because they are musically inclined and you know the rest of the story.

They receive help from "ghost writers," altered states, etc.

Springsteen is a man with very little talent, if not for his "session bands," which include the "E Street Band."

08-20-2007, 01:22 AM
Oh, yeah, Scailfa's breakin' lose alright. That video is surely going to hit number one along with her CD.

Who kept her under lock and key, with a ball and chain around her ankle for so long?

Darn, the music industry certainly could have made a killing if they only would have realized much sooner how talented she was.

I mean, certainly, they are "in tune" with what sells and what doesn't.

Don't ya think?

08-20-2007, 08:14 AM
Well, that OPERATION exploded in their faces!

I'll explain later.

08-20-2007, 10:38 AM
Inasmuch as Bruce Springsteen was my handler/controller, RedRat planted the suggestion that he was Bruce Springsteen in an attempt to exert control over me.

He also posted a comment to me on another thread and then edited it.

In doing so, he asked if that was better for my Lady.

This refers to the song, "My Lady."

What was occuring at Springsteen's BTX site, was an attempt to make me jealous of Patti with this "Unholy Bruce" person insinuating he was Springsteen and his continued sexual remarks about Scailfa.

There were other players who were attempting to "trigger" non-existent sexual programming so that I might, perhaps, begin to write here about my husband in a sexual way in order to try to make this "Unholy Bruce" person jealous.

They just don't seem to get it!

Same type of operation on the official site in the Right Wing Lounge, but it was the poster Mary and HoleyGhost who embarrassed themselves.

Why else would female posters talk to "Unholy Bruce" about how hot, smokin' and on fire he and Patti look in that gawd awful picture and he about her tight skirts and then DNA and MadMel conversing about Springsteen's genitals?

Why else for metioning MY non-existent alters, Wendy, Rosie, Mary and quite possibly Angela?

Why else would someone be allowed to represent themselves on Springsteen's site as Springsteen?

Why else did Gina play into the sexual talk and Freeman mention that if the conversation went into the gutter he was out of there?

This, to suggest that my conversation lower itself to the gutter.

Why else would those on the payroll continue to talk about Patti and how hot and sexy she is. Women, as well?

You know, back when I was on Springsteen's official site, I commented that he should do a duet with Patti on VH1 Storytellers. They did. They performed Brilliant Disguise.

I don't care what either one of them do together.

They just don't seem to get it.

They both deserve each other.

Two peas in a pod.

Each one is as disgusting as the other.

So, that was the operation. An operation that backfired and made them look to be the pigs that they are.

An operation that sought to EMBARRASS me has only embarrassed themselves.


08-20-2007, 10:54 AM
RedRat was running his own little covert operation over here trying to reinforce what the playeres at BTX were attempting.

The exchange between him and Barbara, quite odd, to say the least and the posting of "love song" youtube links.

As I've stated, "love songs," played a key role in BETA programming.

It would be safe to say, and I've already said it before that RedRat is straddling the fence for reasons of which WE are aware.

08-20-2007, 11:24 AM
This is taken from the "Unholy Bruce" Thread.

Makes alot of sense, doesn't it?

No, not to anyone else but, perhaps, me.

Unholy Bruce wrote:

I've done whores up the "Little Muddy" more times than I've had to drag out "Jungleland" to appease all the retards in my audience who are stuck in a 25-year-old mindset.

Sanctifiedforone quotes the above Unholy Bruce comment and replies with the following:

Mezorn? Is that you?? You crack me up Kelly...
You started this huge fight with Mezorn for using the "Retard" word
To the point that he tells you that he hopes you "die nameless"
and then you make a huge stink till he is banned from btx.

Yet you're stoking him now... why cause his name is Bruce??

You're the only one Bruce needs "guarded" from.


Oh, yes perfect sense!

Let' see:

"He tells you that he hopes you die nameless."


Wouldn't expect he would want anything else. Institutionalization would have been preferred, I'm sure.

Bruce needs guarded from whom?

Mezron, Kelly or BlueAngel?

08-20-2007, 01:54 PM

Following week upon week of dreary news about photogenic troublemakers with memorable names and tenuous links to the music business, we can't help but be thrilled to note that two of this week's biggest stories involve two middle-aged men--one of whom is in fact still living! That would be Bruce Springsteen, the man and the legend, who this week announced the Oct. 2nd release of a brand new album titled Magic, his first recording with the E Street Band since 2002's The Rising. Several of us here at Y! Music Central were recently treated to an early listen of some new tracks and were especially taken with the guitar-laden rocker "Radio Nowhere," which we can only hope will get on the radio somewhere, if you catch our drift! Big buzz is that Bruce & Co. will soon be embarking on a European and American tour, and we plan to be there--if only to again witness Clarence Clemons playing his sax while spinning around in a circle onstage, surely the sort of image one needs to see but once to never forget--yet, oddly, to nevertheless want to see again and again! It's kind of hard to explain!


Interesting how this writer mentions he'll be at the shows IF ONLY again to witness Clarence Clemons.

Couldn't agree more.

You can take The Boss or leave him.

He refers to Springsteen as the man and the legend.

He forgot to add pedophile and all the other details on this thread.

08-20-2007, 04:56 PM
The album cover for "Magic."


Boy, does Springsteen look angry or what?

Why is it that so many times, there is a shadow on one side of his face?

Even in the promotional picture.

I was looking at the picture with a Handi-lens magnifying class.

His left eye looks strange. That's why I used the lens.

Really creepy through the lens. Almost has a devil look to him.

08-20-2007, 05:22 PM
I'd have to agree with some of the posters at BTX. The cover photograph does look like a mug shot.

One posters says that the picture gives a certain creepiness to the idea of Magic.

It's a shame how the "E Street Band" is never mentioned on an album when they record it with Springsteen.

They don't have a recording contract, Springsteen does, but, still, the only credit the "E Street Band" receives is when a live show is performed and a CD or DVD is sold.

08-20-2007, 05:27 PM
Springsteen made it big with the "E Street Band."

The music mobsters cut their strings with the "E Street Band" because they knew their cash cow could rake in the dough without them due to the large cult-like following he amassed.

If they kept the band with Springsteen, certainly monetary pay-out to each member would have had to increase. They would have demanded it.

So, whether Springsteen writes the lyrics or not, he receives the credit and the E Street Band only receives the credit when a live album or DVD is produced.

The "E Street Band" is a "sessions band."

08-20-2007, 05:50 PM
In an attempt to cover up what I wrote about my interpretation as to SanctifiedforOne's comment earlier which was incomprehensible, it has now been cleaned up over at BTX.

The story is that there was a Mezron, in the past who had an internet fight with a poster at BTX. He was banned.

For some reason, Gina thinks "Unholy Bruce" might be Mezron.

Why she would think so. No clue. He didn't use Springsteen's name because she asked the poster whom this Mezron had a fight with, why she was stroking this guy, "Unholy Bruce," because he's Bruce or his name is Bruce. Something to that effect.

Interesting, isn't it that the BTX moderators allow a person to post impersonating Springsteen and saying things such as the following:

Truth be told, despite my perpetual wood for Pats, most of my fans are way too old to make me come on up for The Rising. Now that Winona, though...


I wonder if Springsteen might want to sue this poster, "Unholy Bruce" or Scailfa, for that matter. Oh, I forgot. They have no shame.

I mean standing on the balcony in your undies with another woman while you're married; the "red-headed woman song;" and oh, you know the rest. I don't need to role the credits.

With so many GUARDS on the board, I'm sure Springsteen and Scailfa know about "Unholy Bruce" just as everyone else on the board has been briefed in the operation.

Funny, isn't it? Just like with the imaginery cat, Figgy, no one ever asked the five posters who were constantly talking to this cat, "hey, what the hell are you doing talking to an imaginery cat?"

Same here. Not one poster questions "Unholy Bruce." They just play along with the question and answer session because they're hoping to accomplish something that ain't ever going to happen.

Fools! Wasting their time!

Apparently, THEY don't have a problem with someone impersonating Springsteen and neither does Springsteen, nor a problem with this impersonator talking about Scailfa such as he is.


08-20-2007, 05:56 PM
Springsteen has described Scailfa's voice as silk and sandpaper.


Oh, that's why it's always said that she has a unique voice.

Silk and sandpaper rubbing together.

Yeah, that about describes it.

You can't hear the silk, but certainly the sandpaper.

It's a "unique voice" because it isn't a "good" voice.

Oh, yeah, she sounds just like Celine Dione!

08-20-2007, 06:07 PM
I have caught another rat, DNA and he's red!

08-20-2007, 06:50 PM
Is there some reason why three helicopters have justed passed over my house and, the last one low enough and loud enough to cause vibrations in my home?

08-20-2007, 06:55 PM
Oh, yes, that shadow across Springsteen's face is very atmospheric.

GAWD, they'll find anything to comment on!

08-20-2007, 06:58 PM
Ohmygoodness. Just like the "brainwashing" if a fan doesn't like a song.


Same with the mugshot.

2Hearts says, I don't think he looks grumpy, K. The more I look at it, the more it grows on me. At least it's not orange and black.


What are you looking at 2Hearts?!

He looks like a GRUMPY OLD, ANGRY MAN!

Invest in some glasses without the rose colored lenses and stop drinking the Bruce Kool-aid.

Blind faith can also blind you!

08-20-2007, 07:07 PM
SO, now they've got another bone to chew on until the release of "Magic."

They thought that was today and didn't want to leave the house for fear they'd miss it.

This poster wishes Springsteen were wearing a jacket, another was hoping the entire band would be on the cover....blah, blah, blah.

They're also discussing all the previous covers of other albums.

Oh, there's a spot of what they think is blood on the left sleeve of his t-shirt.

Oh, my, the mystery!

Looks like a splattering of spots of blood all over the cover.


Certainly looks like a mugshot!

Maybe he's preparing!

08-20-2007, 07:12 PM
2Hearts thinks that it's not the album cover that matters because for most of Springsteen's career, his covers haven't equalled the quality of his music and that's what counts, but then she has this to say:

I'm liking it. It's better than the promo shot they released last week with the album announcement. Lighting is still a little harsh in this one, but in the other shot, it looked like an outtake. Or at least I would have rejected it. It reminded me of a shot that was taken when someone wasn't expecting it. And not in a good way. He looked tired and it seemed as though he turned away from the lighting ever so slightly too much. On this one, he could have turned his shoulders a bit to make it look less mugshot-like. Something about it is kinda cool, though.


Maybe they ought to pay her to take the picture next time.

08-20-2007, 07:19 PM
The Children are so excited.

One poster comments:

my heart stopped when the first pic came out....it went through the roof at this. The lighting, the starkness...THE MAN people.

THIS is what we have been waiting for, REMEMBER?

It is just awesome. FREAKIN MAGIC.

I can look at it all nite. Someone repost so i dont' have to keep going back to page one.....


Oy, the worshipping of their cult leader is quite ABNORMAL, but that's to be expected when you've been brainwashed, altered, and placed in a dream like state.

To be expected, when your life belongs to him; heart, soul and control!

He sang it to you people and you obeyed!

08-20-2007, 07:36 PM
There was an Sirius E Street Radio, but is no longer.

What happened?

Not enough listeners?

They have Dylan, The Stones and Elvis.

How many times can a person listen to Jungleland, Badlands, Spirit in the Night, Blinded by the Light, Born to Run?

Not many unless you're a worshipper and follower!

08-20-2007, 07:41 PM
Here's a comment from Gina regarding that fight between one poster and a former poster (supposedly) by the name of Mezron:

If you think that most of us suck, why do you even bother.
You're the one that SUCKS. Or should I say wants to suck.

I could tell you what Bruce said about your stalking him...
but I'll let you continue to think that you're the one.


So, BRUCE told Gina something about this poster stalking him.

Gina knows Bruce Springsteen personally and she is accusing a poster at BTX of stalking Springsteen.

08-20-2007, 07:45 PM
Now, thanks to a poster, we all know that another poster is busy having sex with her husband on satin sheets because it's their 12th anniversary.

This poster included a picture of a man and woman embraced on satin sheets.


When they eat, when they sleep, when they have sex, how they have sex.

08-20-2007, 07:46 PM
Funny, I don't remember anyone on the COVER THREAD mentioned that Springsteen looked GRUMPY.

I did.

A poster said, "I don't think he looks grumpy as if he was responding to someone."

08-20-2007, 08:03 PM
Oh, yes, women in their 30's and 40's run to Springsteen screaming, if they see him walking down the street.

More accurately would be his "cult followers" during "stage rushes" behave this way, which, in a world as populated as Planet Earth ain't all that many.

08-20-2007, 08:07 PM
Questions for "Unholy Bruce" and answers.

Dear "Unholy Bruce,"

So which one was it? $200 straight in? Or $250?


Dear UB:

Let me ask you this. I am like on the verge of going apeshit, stuck down here in connection with this trial.

But, there are a few bright spots. Today, since I get such crappy cell phone reception (damn you Cingular), I had to kill some time whilst on the phone outside of this strip mall where the Colts Neck post office is located. I later had lunch at the bar at Huddy's Inn.

Anyway, I must admit there was a fairly steady stream of rather attractive woment in their 30s and 40s heading in and out of the establishments there (I believe they may be referred to as MILFs by some). These women must be all over your shit, UB. How do you deal with it?

Your pal,

Lon, my man!

Sorry to hear you're having such a crappy time.

As for how I deal with the hotness of the county MILFs? Let's just say I "think of their pretty faces when I let 'er unwind".

But - if you're talkin' to Patti - you didn't hear that from me (or the Winona Ryder stuff! ).

08-20-2007, 08:19 PM
Someone mentioned that Springsteen looked like he was going for the "serial killer," look; the "guilty as charged" look.

What about the "pedophile" and sadistic abuser look?

I think I see that in there, too!


Only the "fanatics" would care so deeply about the cover photograph.

Seriously, folks.

Get a LIFE!!

If you don't have one by now, you probably never will.

I'd have to disagree DNA, it's about a rock star who has another album to sell.

If it isn't, then why bother recording it?

If it isn't, then why bother touring?

If it isn't, then why the media circus?

If it isn't, then why the promotion?

08-20-2007, 08:52 PM
Oh, I see now. I watched "Town Called Heartbreak" video clip and MadMel wasn't referring to seeing more of Patti in the video than they've ever seen before.

She was excited about seeing Patti's breast.

Her voice just grinds on one's ears! That hanging on the wall is really strange and the work with me baby move at the end, as well.

You know, it's funny. For those posters who continue to say she's hot and sexy. I think you believe this because you imagine her in bed with Springsteen performing all the sexual acts he sings about.

She's been used by the music mobsters for a very important reason which I don't need to explain. You know what I'm referencing.

She didn't make it in the music industry because she was too busy raising children or touring with the E Street Band.

She didn't make it because she doesn't have the three qualities you need.

Sex appeal, a stage presence and a voice they can work with.

She doesn't possess any of those!

When was the last time a Patti Scailfa song popped into your head?

When was the last time you heard a Patti Scailfa song on the radio?

08-20-2007, 08:54 PM
Unholy Bruce says that the Reno song and the songs on Devils and Dust are about souls who are in danger.

Oh, such insight.

He invents characters whose souls are in danger.


The man in the hotel room was in danger of having anal sex?

Check out the other songs on the album.

Oh, yes, SOULS IN DANGER, alright!!

In danger of what????

08-20-2007, 08:58 PM
MadMel has seen Jackson Browne extermely close up. How close, I wonder.

08-20-2007, 09:01 PM
A poster is depressed because his fiance' broke up with him and these are the times when Springsteen means the most to him.

Ah, the comfort he receives from the Boss!

I'd be careful, if I were you.

Your soul might be in danger when listening to confusing, sexually deviant and depressing lyrics.

I guess he's on the rebound!

08-20-2007, 09:13 PM
One poster has for the second time now stated that she loves the fu*cking picture.

I was thinking the same as another poster.

Look at me, look at me. Can't even include the E Street Band. All about me. I'm so self-important.

MadMel sent the album cover out to several friends this afternoon and got back responses like: "Is this a joke?" "That can't be for real, is it?" "That's SCARY!" and the one that really made her laugh: "He looks like a serial killer."

She agrees that it presents Bruce as he is today, (how the hell else would it present him? Like he was 20 years ago) she might have suggested cropping the photo a bit differently - and maybe choosing a shot where his shoulders aren't sagging and looks a bit stooped. Might've lit the shot a bit differently as well.

MadMel knows all.

She asks if anybody knows what the brown splotch on his left sleeve is?

Oh my GAWD. Yeah, they all know. Now that you've asked, I'm sure the CHILDREN will be speculating for several weeks about that brown splotch on his left sleeve.

Maybe it was left there on purpose so his deranged fans could find something to talk about while they wait for the release of the CD and the tour.

Oh, the mystery.

Oh, that brown splotch!! My goodness, what is it? I don't think I'll be able to sleep tonight until I find out what that brown splotch is.

Hey, maybe it's a STAIN!! You know, he's a rich man in poor man's clothes.

Ponder that!

How 'bout the placement of the word MAGIC.

Bruce MAGIC Springsteen.

Oh, so self-important.

Oh, so powerful!

Oh, such a pathetic man!

08-20-2007, 09:15 PM
WOW! There's a sane fan on the site.

He/she says:

Wow . . . lots and lots of deep thoughts about a seemingly simple pic . . . still just looks like a mug shot with his name and the album title printed over it to me.

08-20-2007, 09:18 PM
Scratch that!

08-20-2007, 09:19 PM
Scratch that!

08-20-2007, 09:48 PM
The devil's hand has been observed and photographed around the world, used by George Bush, Bill Clinton, Silvio Berlusconi, Elizabeth Taylor, Prince William, Paul McCartney, Metallica, Ozzie, Avril Lavigne, Stephen Dorff, Dave Navarro and many others.

08-20-2007, 09:55 PM
Ah, it's a photograph, people.

You are so suggestible, you are reading into it as if it is something MAGNIFICENT!

As if it says something!

As if it is speaking to you!

Get a grip!

What is so to love about the cover photograph of Devils and Dust.

Springsteen's head is looking down.

Yeah, that back of the head shot great!

08-20-2007, 10:23 PM
Since when has Springsteen been above ripping his fans off?

He's been doing it since day one.

You can thank those who own him for that.

They bring it on bit by bit because that's how they keep you hooked.

For some reason, you think Springsteen controls the music mobsters.

It's the other way around.

THEY own and CONTROL him.

Puppet on a string!

A marionette.

They command and he delivers FOR THEM.

08-20-2007, 10:33 PM
What is the deal with these fans who have pictures of themselves with Springsteen in a variety of different locations?

Does he attend the BTXer's pre-parties, or something.

Man, there is one picture on the Share your Picture with Bruce Thread and he looks like he's three sheets to the wind.

There are many pictures of him where he looks like he's three sheets to the wind for that matter.

08-20-2007, 10:35 PM
Oh, that picture of Springsteen in a Speedo drapped all over the two guys next to him.


Four guys on a boat.

No women!

08-20-2007, 10:36 PM
Why would anyone wear a t-shirt with their name on it?

Tacky comes to mind.

08-20-2007, 10:47 PM

Springsteen has a HUGH receding hairline in this picture, but not in the one for the cover of "Magic."

Somebody sure knows how to grow hair.

Or, is it a piece?

08-20-2007, 11:06 PM
Of course, THE MAN, can do no wrong in your world, cause you live in his world and it's not called reality.

08-20-2007, 11:12 PM
"Unholy Bruce," (good name, by the way) said that he said it best back in the '70s, when he sang "Don't look back". Or in the original version of "All the Way Home", when I said "Now, there's things no one can rearrange / We both have yesterdays that we can't change".


Who was he talking to in the line " "Now, there's things no one can rearrange / We both have yesterdays that we can't change".

Who is the other part of WE?

08-20-2007, 11:15 PM
Gee, Jane, you don't think "Unholy Bruce" is really Bruce Springsteen?

Why is that?

There's something about you that he should know, but he doesn't.

Why are the moderators allowing this person to post as if he is Bruce Springsteen, if he isn't?

08-20-2007, 11:19 PM
Why would you like to see Bruce Springsteen's new album a big hit?

Does that do something for you?

Why the older the fiddle the sweeter the tune, baby?

Do you have some delusional sexual intimacy with the man?


08-21-2007, 01:12 PM
Is there some reason why Scailfa is wearing the same clothes in her videos, "Town Called Heartbreak" and "Looking for Elvis" as she is on the cover of her CD?

08-21-2007, 03:19 PM


08-21-2007, 03:29 PM
All this talk about how Patti Scailfa is independent musically from Springsteen, but, yet, he has to SHOW HIS FACE and BREATHE on both of her videos and play on the CD, as well.

Is this the behavior of a self-obsessed personality?

Look at me, look at me!

A controlling personality, perhaps!

IMO, of course it is.

All that and much more!

08-21-2007, 04:06 PM
Someone posted the following lyrics at BTX as "The Devil's Arcade" song.

Remember how Landau said that this song was political?

Before it was revealed that these are not the lyrics, MadMel and DNA commented that it is a very political song.


Sounds like they live in a "suggestible" state of mind.

Landau says it, Springsteen says it and they believe it.

Well it's rainin' downtown, there's a darkness crawlin' down my street
I see the eyes of strangers in the old familiar faces I meet
Lines on my face, hell we're all gettin' older
Chill in the air and the world's grown colder
Life and death, every breath, every step, it's our souls that we trade
In this devil's arcade
This devil's arcade

Now there's war in the wind, and there's blood in the air every day
Hell in the water that stinks of the price we must pay
Lies in the truth that the soothsayers told us
Lies in the proof that our own fathers sold us
Love and hate, hands of fate, hands of love, hands of hope how they prayed
In the devil's arcade
This devil's arcade

La da da da da
La da da
La da da da da
La da da da da da
Broken windows like blind shattered eyes
Broken crosses laid like railroad ties straight to Hell
Broken promises all down the line
Broken hearts, brother, their yours and mine

Now it's rainin' again, there's a darkness risin' with the sun
Hand in your pocket, on your breath the smell of the gun
Here in this place where our forefathers brought us
Shame and disgrace that our own fathers bought us
Life and death, every breath, every step, it's the game that is played
In this devil's arcade
In the devil's arcade

La da da da da
La da da
La da da
La da da da da
La da da
La da da


2Hearts is suddenly employed. Strange how they talk about everything under the sun except for their careers.

Here's a quote for you:

"It's better to speak than to be taken for a FOOL!"

08-21-2007, 04:25 PM
Before it was revealed that the lyrics to "Devil's Arcade" were a hoax, MadMel says she already hears the song and the MUSIC to the words in her head. She's not sure if the song really sounds like she hears it, but she's betting someone it's pretty damn close.

She knows the music to the song!

Like I said, MadMel knows all. She's so self-important, too.

THEY ARE ALL, in their world.

The song rocks, it's angry, it snarls at you, MadMel says.

Okay, the song snarls at you.


Boy, she is easily placed in a "suggestible" state of mind.

Oh, yes, and the words really do FEEL authentic to MADMEL.

Now she finds out that they're not.

I think you should use the advice you have quoted at the bottom of your signature picture:


DNA says it's DEFINITELY POLITICAL with a certain self-effacement that he has always loved about many of Bruce's lyrics. Bruce recognizes his own shortcomings and hypocrisies and finds that important to reveal to his listeners. How can you not admire a person for that? It's a large part of his appeal to me.

DNA says he'll have to hear the song first before it comes alive.


Listen to the bullshit they speak.

The reason they thought they were authentic lyrics is because they sound like a Springsteen tune. DEPRESSING, dark, blood and without a connection to anything.

These people love the DARK SIDE that Springsteen sings about and that they reside in.

He doesn't so much sing about his shortcomings and hypocrisies because he finds it important to reveal this to his listeners (what BS), it just comes out because that's WHO HE IS and he finds nothing wrong with it.

Well, his fans are certainly going to have a whole lot more about Springsteen revealed to them real soon.

Hey, you forgot how he reveals his homosexuality and sexually deviant behavior in his lyrics, too.

You folks like that DARK SIDE.

Don't you?

08-21-2007, 05:13 PM
Not sure if I posted this link from BTX. The "Ask Unholy Bruce" Thread:


08-21-2007, 05:27 PM
About the album cover, one poster comments that they knew what they were going for.


Another poster hits the nail on it's shiny head and comments:

this is very david blaine-esque

His magic is dark, mysterious and keeps you guessing, i think the cover is brilliant


Exactly what all of you are doing.

Some of the tricks of the trade.





Some people are intrigued with mystery.

08-21-2007, 05:57 PM
Why is Patti Scailfa "Looking for Elvis?"

He's dead.

Try the graveyard.

08-21-2007, 06:49 PM
I suppose Scailfa purchases more shoes than clothes.

What was the deal with the camera on her high heels and that not very "fancy footwork" she was doing?

WE know that Springsteen is a part of the "satanic cult," and worships Satan, but his love for him seems to be showing more and more as of late.

Satan's crown jewel
the devil's snappin' at my heels
the devil's in the mailbox
Devils and Dust
Devil's arcade

I'm sure there are more, but these are the few that come to mind.

They just threw the CHILDREN another bone.

A paragraph explaining what the song "Magic" encompasses.

Seems like a little bit of everything, but "Don't fear the Reaper" was mentioned.

Yeah, a cross between, "Don't Fear the Reaper," Message in a Bottle and a few other songs.

All this comprised in one song.

08-21-2007, 07:07 PM
You're kidding, right?

You think page 15 on the "Unholy Bruce" thread won't open because he's creating much more traffic on the site since he arrived.

If you look at the number of registered users, guests, hidden, etc., you'll see it's about the same as before he registered.


These people say whatever comes into their minds.

Any story!

Bullshit artists just like Springsteen.

Was there a bulletin; front page news informing the world, most of whom could care less, that there was a FREAK at the BTX site impersonating Springsteen?

Come one. Come all. It's a question and answer session.

Now is the time to ask this FRAUD any and all things Bruce.

Whether it's Springsteen or not, it's still the time to ask this FRAUD everything you've always wanted to know cause he has all the answers.

Oh, yes, and half the world has flocked to BTX to ask him questions they've been dying to have answered.

No, not really. Just shallow questions by the usual 24/7/365 posters.

He doesn't seem to have attracted an newcomers.

Only in your world.

08-21-2007, 07:18 PM
A poster comments about a suggestion that Dylan and Springsteen play together:

I would love a BOB/Bruce tour. It will never happen. The clash of fans would be the height of hilarity, though. The Bob fans are real serious, like disciples (no exaggeration) i have been to one of their get togethers...some of them take it to a level i did not think possible.

08-21-2007, 07:47 PM
Well, the "Unholy Bruce" thread does have 6,000 plus views in only a few days.

I would suffice it to say that the publicity the "Unholy Bruce!" thread; Springsteen himself; and BTX as well, have received here at ClubConspiracy might be the reason that particular thread has had that number of hits and BTX, in general, is generating more traffic and onlookers!


It's called INFILTRATION by the way.

Gathering and delivering the information to your superiors.

It's not an easy job especially when a child. It was more frightening than words could ever describe.

It is being incarcerated in a world of HELL!

I had to trust MEN to protect me; help me escape them and in the "occult" world, men are evil.

These men and women of intelligence saved my life.

I was being "mind controlled," and I had to use every bit of consciousness to stay as connected as possible to REPORT to my superiors.

As I've said, when it was known by THEM as to my COVERT operations, I was considered a traitor and nearly left for brain dead.

Well, here I am and I will never be silent!

You see it all the time in cinema and television.

It's real.

It's called spying.

It's called being a government agent.

It's called being an operative.

It's called being trained when I was very young.

It's called outsmarting them.

It's called being as sly as a fox.

It's called not being one of THEM!

It's called being wiser than the serpeant.

It's called fighting for the right to be FREE!

Good Night,

08-21-2007, 07:54 PM
Someone is distressed over the album cover so a poster comforts him:

What Springsteen is doing with both title and cover art is called "throwing down the gauntlet."

Take a peek at some of Bruce's previous album covers a little more closely -- you may catch a clue. The River is the most obvious to review.


Why don't you just tell him which album covers to take a peak at and clue him in on the clue he might catch.

Oh, yes, let's look at The River cover album and compare it to Magic and see if we can find some clues.


Oh, the mystery!

Oh, the missing pieces to the puzzle!

If only his fans could find them.

08-21-2007, 07:56 PM
Someone is distressed over the album cover so a poster comforts him:

What Springsteen is doing with both title and cover art is called "throwing down the gauntlet."

Take a peek at some of Bruce's previous album covers a little more closely -- you may catch a clue. The River is the most obvious to review.


Why don't you just tell him which album covers to take a peak at and clue him in on the clue he might catch.

Oh, yes, let's look at The River cover album and compare it to Magic and see if we can find some clues.


Oh, the mystery!

Oh, the missing pieces to the puzzle!

If only his fans could find them.

08-21-2007, 10:04 PM

Schizophrenia is not a terribly common disease but it can be a serious and chronic one. Worldwide about 1 percent of the population is diagnosed with schizophrenia, and approximately 1.2% of Americans (3.2 million) have the disorder. About 1.5 million people will be diagnosed with schizophrenia this year around the world. In the United States, this means about 100,000 people will be diagnosed, which translates to 7.2 people per 1,000 or about 21,000 people within a city of 3 million who are likely to be suffering from schizophrenia.

Schizophrenia can affect people throughout the lifespan although new instances of the illness are most likely to occur in early adulthood. It is relatively rare for children and older adults to develop schizophrenia, but it does happen. More commonly the incidence (rate of diagnosis) of new cases of schizophrenia increases in the teen years, reaching a peak of vulnerability between the ages of 16 and 25 years. Men and women show different patterns of susceptibility for developing schizophrenia. Males reach a single peak of vulnerability for developing schizophrenia between the ages of 18 and 25 years. In contrast, female vulnerability peaks twice; first between 25 and 30 years, and then again around 40 years of age.


The full onset of schizophrenia is typically preceded by a gradual 'prodromal' (pre-cursor) period where odd behaviors and experiences, such as anxiety, restlessness and hallucinations begin to occur, but not yet with their fullest force. There may be a gradual loss of reality. Many schizophrenia sufferers describe the onset of odd feelings, thoughts and perceptions a few months before anyone else can see visible evidence of them. It can be quite difficult to recognize schizophrenia during this early prodromal stage, particularly if it is a new diagnosis and has not occurred before for a given patient. Though the schizophrenic person may have been hearing criticizing voices and experiencing delusions for some time, these symptoms may not have been overwhelming or frightening enough to have caused them to break down and act in a bizarre manner. Patients experiencing these symptoms for the first time may be able to hide them for a while, but this becomes more difficult as the psychotic process sets in and their outer actions begin to reflect their inner perceptual distortions.

Schizophrenia is not generally recognized to be occurring until after truly odd and irrational behaviors are expressed during what is called a "psychotic break", or "first break". Though the schizophrenic person's internal experience during psychosis may be terrifying, it is the outward symptoms characteristic of the psychotic break that are noticed by family members and others: changes in self-care, sleeping or eating patterns, weakness, lack of energy, headaches, changes in school or work performance, strange sensations, and confused, strange, or bizarre thinking that gets expressed as bizarre behavior. Keep in mind, however, that the actual break with reality may occur prior to the time that people around the psychotic person have noticed that something is seriously wrong. The symptom-rich period following the psychotic break is sometimes called the 'active-phase' or, alternatively a period of 'florid' psychosis. The term florid means "flowering" and the term is a metaphorical usage denoting that the psychosis is the end result or goal of the schizophrenic illness, just as the bloom is the end result or goal of a flowering plant.

When schizophrenia does occur, it often becomes a chronic condition that continues throughout the remainder of life with varying degrees of intensity. The "first break" may be the last break if the case of schizophrenia is mild and if treatment is administered promptly and continued as directed by a psychiatrist (a medical doctor specializing in mental health issues). More typically, however, the first break leads to a pattern of varying periods of relative recovery (which are termed 'residual' phases) and periods of new active-phase psychosis that continue throughout the remainder of patients' lives.

08-21-2007, 10:12 PM
Prognosis and Recovery Factors


There is no known cure for Schizophrenia. Fortunately, there are effective treatments that can reduce symptoms, decrease the likelihood that new episodes of psychosis will occur, shorten the duration of psychotic episodes, and in general, offer the majority of people suffering from schizophrenia the possibility of living more productive and satisfying lives. With the proper medications and supportive counseling, the ability of schizophrenic persons to live and function relatively well in society is excellent. The outlook for these patients is optimistic.

Ten years after initial diagnosis, approximately fifty percent of people diagnosed with schizophrenia are either noted to be completely recovered or improved to the point of being able to function independently. Twenty five percent are improved, but require a strong support network, and an additional fifteen percent remain unimproved and are typically hospitalized. Unfortunately, ten percent of the affected population sees no way out of their pain except through death and ends up committing suicide. Long-term statistics for thirty years after diagnosis are similar to the ten year mark, except that there are even more people who improve to become independent. However, there is also an increase in the number of suicides to fifteen percent. Over time, women appear to have a better chance at sustaining recovery from symptoms than do men.

It is an unfortunate fact that people with schizophrenia attempt suicide more frequently than do people in the general population. This may occur for many reasons, including fears and anxieties associated with psychosis or depression and hopeless feelings that may occur when it is realized that a serious, chronic and life-changing disease has occurred. It is always difficult to predict which people are serious suicide risks, and this is the case for the schizophrenic population as well.

While people in the general population talk about suicide from time to time, professional mental health help should be sought right away for people (schizophrenic or otherwise) who make a habit of discussing suicide, who express any sort of plan to commit suicide, who stockpile pills, tools (rope, razors) or weapons for the purpose of suicide or self-harm, or who act out a suicide or self-harm plan, however half-heartedly. The impulse to suicide is most always a temporary crisis that can be overcome with time and proper care. Given the right treatment, the chance for a reasonably balanced life is good.

Recovery Factors

The key to successful recovery is early diagnosis and treatment. In general, the earlier someone with schizophrenia is diagnosed and stabilized on an appropriate treatment regime, the better their chance of recovery. In light of this tendency, anyone who suspects that they (or someone they know) may have signs and symptoms consistent with schizophrenia should consult with a psychiatrist at their earliest possible convenience.

Multiple factors appear to influence prognosis (disease outcome) in schizophrenia. Family history of schizophrenia is relevant. If no one in the immediate biological family of first degree relatives has schizophrenia or a related condition, that is a good sign. Multiple relatives who share schizophrenia outcomes is a bad sign. Other good signs include good social and professional adjustment prior to the onset of symptoms, and awareness and insight of symptoms as signs of a problem (rather than just reaction to symptoms without insight); patients demonstrating both of these signs may sometimes recover completely.

Chances for recovery are improved if the disease comes on suddenly, as opposed to when it comes on slowly. The older one is at the onset of schizophrenia, the better. If schizophrenia is treated quickly and consistently (see above) with good response to treatment, the prognosis is usually very good. A short amount of time that people suffer with severe symptoms and a lack of symptoms reported during periods between severe psychotic episodes are also good indicators of recovery potential. A personal history or family history of mood disorders may help a person to move through a schizophrenic phase quickly because their primary condition may be some other affliction. Since schizophrenia is a brain disorder, a good outcome is predicted when the brain has a normal structure and function as indicated by a brain scan.

08-21-2007, 10:23 PM
About False Memory Syndrome

Dr. John F. Kihlstrom, professor of psychology at Yale University, has suggested the following definition of False Memory Syndrome:

"a condition in which a person's identity and interpersonal relationships are centered around a memory of traumatic experience which is objectively false but in which the person strongly believes. Note that the syndrome is not characterized by false memories as such. We all have memories that are inaccurate. Rather, the syndrome may be diagnosed when the memory is so deeply ingrained that it orients the individual's entire personality and lifestyle, in turn disrupting all sorts of other adaptive behavior.

The analogy to personality disorder is intentional. False Memory Syndrome is especially destructive because the person assiduously avoids confrontation with any evidence that might challenge the memory.

Thus it takes on a life of its own, encapsulated and resistant to correction. The person may become so focused on memory that he or she may be effectively distracted from coping with the real problems in his or her life."

08-21-2007, 10:32 PM
Section 1: What is Satanic Ritual Abuse?

More and more people -- mostly women -- are being treated for "Ritual Satanic Abuse" (or what has later become the more reasonable-sounding "Ritual Sexual Abuse.") This abuse is usually "discovered" while a woman is undergoing treatment for an eating disorder or chronic depression. It is always "discovered" by therapists who are fundamentalist Christians who believe in a so-called "World-wide Satanic conspiracy" where hundreds of thousands of people around the world engage in ritual murder for the Christian "Satan" god, often eating their victims to destroy the evidence.

Several books have been written about this genre of belief since it has a solid historic precedent. The claims that "Satanic Ritual Abuse" encompasses are equal to claims made in the decades and centuries past for so-called "outgroups" -- groups of individuals which may or may not even exist. Examples of special note are Jews, Gypsies, and the "Illuminati." Every believer has been utterly convinced they've got first-hand knowledge of the conspiracies and actions of these evil groups. Many honestly believe they've suffered under the hands of such outgroups and have been suppressing the memories of such abuse. (See these web pages folders for details concerning False Memory Syndrome.)

Here's where Fundamentalist therapists come in. Over the last three decades the United States has seen the rising phenomena of believers in SRA. So many outrageous claims were made without a shred of evidence to support them that government agencies have been prompted to perform investigations into the allegations and have produced research reports which indicate that SRA is an urban legend. (Ask Fredric Rice for the FBI's report on cult activities in the United States.)

Still the believers continue to believe, merely expanding the conspiracy to include the government agencies (such as the FBI) which find the allegations to be nonsense. Since no one can find any evidence to back-up their beliefs, they seek to manufacture evidence. Therapists who believe honestly enough are implanting false memories into their patients and, since the patient experience strong emotional responses to the suggestive leading therapists employ, they too start believing.

The infamous and most expensive court case in America's history was the McMartin Preschool fiasco. In that case there were allegations of "Satanic Ritual Abuse" levied against the McMartins even though no evidence for any abuse was ever found, leave alone abuse of a violent nature. In that case a mother who believed in the Christian "Satan" god and in the "World-wide Satanic Conspiracy" honestly thought her son had been ritually abuse by the McMartins and she found therapists, other parents, and lawyers who were willing to perpetuate the unfounded beliefs. (HBO even created a pseudo-docudrama depicting the McMartins, with the movie ending with the McMartins caught in the act performing "Satanic" rituals with children. Naturally HBO didn't name the McMartins by name yet the story line was a cut-and-paste from the media depiction's before the trials.)

Many SRA allegations where made about the Branch Davidians at Waco, Texas. Janet Reno is a firm believer in SRA and honestly thought that the Branch Davidians were ritually abusing children in their compound. Even though Child Protective Services had investigated the Davidians and their children routinely due to allegations made by ex-Davidians, Reno widened her SRA conspiracy beliefs to include CPS and dismissed the findings which denied the abuse. Later allegations of illegal weapons and drug manufacturing laboratories were made to try to make the public believe the attack on the Davidians was justified. If Reno didn't honestly believe in SRA, the Davidians would quite probably have been left alone -- as most cults are.

The victims are the patients who are on the receiving end of false memory implantation as well as the families which are destroyed to their core by the process which develops. Usually a daughter starts off by being told her father raped her ritualistically. Her eating disorder or chronic depression are said to be caused by the repression of those memories.

Under the guidance of the Fundamentalist therapist, the patient is led to broaden the scope of the "repressed memories." After the patient starts to honestly believe her father had raped her, she is led to believe that her father brought in others to his house to also rape her. When that belief is firmly implanted, the patient is invited to "visualize" the activities and "make them real." Only by "making these memories real" can the healing process begin.

The implanted memories become ever more bizarre and outrageous.

Even though most patients end up believing memories of being cut, beaten, broken, or forced to give birth to babies (which are then murdered) they find bizarre and outrageous excuses as to why there are no scars on their bodies and why examinations find many who claimed to have given birth a dozen times still have their hymen intact. They are told by their therapist that repressing memories also cause the scars to disappear and that repressing memories of having given birth will cause their physical virginity to "return." They are told of "Body Memories" which are used to pretend that the every-day aches, pains, and itching of life are the results of "Satanic" abuse. Thus every time a believer experiences a headache they acquire vindication of their beliefs.

You can imagine what this does to the family of the patient. In most cases the patient is told to break off all contact with the other members of the family (otherwise the lies the therapist has implanted will be discovered) and to "grow empowered" enough to eventually confront the family, accusing them of what the patient now firmly believes actually happened.

Anyone who suggests that the person is mistaken or that the therapist is engaged in a secret agenda is called a "perp" so that the voice of reason can be dismissed on the grounds that anyone who calls for a sane, rational examination is in on the conspiracy to suppress the truth. SRA self-support groups have formed around the United States and they are places where believers -- every one of them patients of therapists -- get together and vindicate each other's beliefs. Any so-called "invalidating" talk is not permitted and anyone who suggests the memories are implanted are ejected from the group.

All of this happens as the result of the religious beliefs of the therapist. No evidence has ever been found and the aspects of implanting false memories are becoming better understood. So much so in fact that the patients who bother to investigate the validity of the beliefs so implanted in them always find that the therapist has been lying to them -- however good their intentions. Because of the growing awareness, many victims of false memory implantation are starting to sue their previous therapists -- and every one of them have won. There is no defense for the deliberate implanting of memories. While it is true that often the implantation is not malicious, it is still inexcusable to manipulate innocent people to vindicate one's religious beliefs.

08-21-2007, 10:49 PM
When Memory Has a Mind of It's Own
Submitted by on Tue, 2007-04-17 11:07.

* Biology 202

Our understanding of memory is one of the things that make us intrinsically human. Many organisms have memory processes, they learn, they adapt o their surroundings, but humans have the ability to change those functions, to control them. We can choose what we learn and what we don't, we can memorize information and in certain cases force ourselves to omit things from our memory. Our lives are completely based around this function - adults work in a job doing things they have learned to do, children learn in school about things from our past, stories of our past are passed down from generation to generation by memories. Even the basic processes of our bodies utilize systems that have their own type of memory - our bodies, even down to the smallest molecules, "know" what their purpose is (2). This stasis enables us to function at the high level that we do - all parts of the body working together to produce a living, breathing, functioning, and above all remembering organism. Our memory grounds each and every one of us, makes us unique. Every person has different experiences that make their self. It seems that in this sense our selves are dictated by what surrounds us, what inputs come in and how those inputs are automatically dealt with. The problem, it seems, is when the reality of memory can be altered, when memory seems to have a mind of its own.

On a basic level, the biology of memory begins with three separate processes. The first process, encoding, deals with the processing of visual, acoustic, and semantic inputs. Second, in the storage process, the brain takes this information and creates permanent or semi-permanent records of the encoded inputs. This is called the consolidation process and occurs when inputs are received and connections in the brain between neurons, called synapses, are strengthened. The final process, retrieval, refers to the process by which an organism can recall these stored memories either consciously or subconsciously when needed. In addition, there are two different of memory: short term and long term. Short-term memory occurs immediately after the input signals are received. These signals are stored only temporary in the hippocampus, and there for this type of information can only be stored for a short amount of time (7,1). The hippocampus then consolidates certain memories into long-term memories through a process called long-term potentiation (2). However, long-term memories are not stored in the hippocampus but in various parts of the brain depending on exactly what type of memory it is (7,2). Generally speaking there are two types of long-term memories that the brain deals with: explicit and implicit. An explicit memory involves a conscious recollection of a specific event at a specific point and place in time, and knowing that we know these things. Implicit memory deals with unconscious processes, such as learning or subtle details in experiences that you do not pick up on consciously (2).

But it is not always this simple: when memory mixes with fear the boundaries of control and reality blur. The memory consolidation process can be enhanced or limited by many factors. When the body is undergoing a stress reaction, hormones such as epinephrines, adrenaline, are released into the body which trigger the release of more stress hormones, also stimulating the amygdala which has access to many of the parts of the brain that facilitate memory (6). Fear instigates this stress reaction very well. When a person has a strong fear memory, it is usually hard to overcome that fear because it is so strongly engrained in the mind, especially if the incident occurred at childhood when the brain is still developing. The fear response itself is a neural pathway where visual inputs are transmitted through the thalamus and amygdala which allow the brain to make immediate "fight or flight" responses to the situation, and then other, more long-lasting inputs are being sent from the visual cortex to other parts of the brain that analyze, interpret, and store the information that is coming in (5). The brain is linking the sensory and auditory systems to the autonomic nervous system without any conscious knowledge. The brain is controlling how a person remembers something, and therefore controls their reality, all without the participation of the I-function.

Interestingly enough, this idea of extreme memory enhancement when pushed to the extreme can have the exact opposite effect: the brain actually represses memories. As mentioned before, when the brain processes experiences it creates both implicit and explicit memories. In cases with extreme emotional input, such as sexual abuse in children, some researchers believe that the brain can actually repress the ability to form explicit memories in an act of self-preservation in a dangerous environment (2). However, this does not include implicit memory - the mind can still process an experience and store it in long-term potentiation without the knowledge of the I-function. However, these memories are not completely behind locked doors. Since implicit memory often deals with sensory details of situations that the conscious mind passes over, exposure to any of these same inputs can cause such repressed memories to be restored into the explicit memory. For example, in a case of a person who repressed memory about being abused as a child, the memory returned years later when a friend jokingly placed their hands around the person's neck, immediately reinstating the memory of the long forgotten incident (4). This issue is under extreme debate and has come to be a large problem in recent decades is sexual harassment cases. Once the topic of repressed memories began being studies and treated as a legitimate form of testimony, similar cases being springing up all over the place. When people knew realized that perhaps they too could have long repressed memories, the problem arose that more and more people began tricking themselves into believing they had had an experience, repressed it, and then rediscovered it (4). If you believe something strongly enough, a memory can go from explicit to implicit and seem as real as any real memory one has. Neurologically, such a false memory and a genuine memory may look exactly the same at the neural level, so where is the distinction? Where is the line between reality and falsity?

When questioning who has control of our memory, the initial response is simple: we do. Our brains are our brains and we control them. If only it were so easy. As you delve further and further into the intricacies of memory, it gets more difficult to separate exactly what is making the executive decisions. An individual can control their explicit memories, but have no control of their implicit memories. They could control perhaps certain emotions they experience, but they cannot control any that are tied to autonomic nervous system responses. Once a memory has been consolidated, the brain has the ability to repress it, retrieve it, switch it from being implicit to explicit, or even create a memory that never existed. If nine different people are in a single room and frightened with a venomous snake, one can guarantee that they will all have completely unique experiences: one may have no fear response, one may have a fear response and create a stronger memory of the scene, one may be so traumatized that the memory is immediately repressed. Whose experience is more real? Who is experiencing the ultimate reality of the snake? What is controlling all of these unique responses? It seems that the brain is hardwired to do these things for us, without giving any clue to the I-function. The self is determined by forces it can't consciously control. Our memory has a mind of its own.

08-21-2007, 11:15 PM
Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder: What It Is and How to Treat It

What is obsessive-compulsive disorder?

Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) is an illness that causes people to have unwanted thoughts (obsessions) and to repeat certain behaviors (compulsions) over and over again. We all have habits and routines in our daily lives, such as brushing our teeth before bed. However, for people with OCD, patterns of behavior get in the way of their daily lives.

Most people with OCD know that their obsessions and compulsions make no sense, but they can't ignore or stop them.

What are obsessions?
Obsessions are ideas, images and impulses that run through the person's mind over and over again. A person with OCD doesn't want to have these thoughts and finds them disturbing, but he or she can't control them. Sometimes these thoughts just come once in a while and are only mildly annoying. Other times, a person who has OCD will have obsessive thoughts all the time.

What are compulsions?
Obsessive thoughts make people who have OCD feel nervous and afraid. They try to get rid of these feelings by performing certain behaviors according to "rules" that they make up for themselves. These behaviors are called compulsions. (Compulsive behaviors are sometimes also called rituals.) For example, a person who has OCD may have obsessive thoughts about germs. Because of these thoughts, the person may wash his or her hands repeatedly after using a public toilet. Performing these behaviors usually only makes the nervous feelings go away for a short time. When the fear and nervousness return, the person who has OCD repeats the routine all over again.

What are some common obsessions?
The following are some common obsessions:

* Fear of dirt or germs
* Disgust with bodily waste or fluids
* Concern with order, symmetry (balance) and exactness
* Worry that a task has been done poorly, even when the person knows this is not true
* Fear of thinking evil or sinful thoughts
* Thinking about certain sounds, images, words or numbers all the time
* Need for constant reassurance
* Fear of harming a family member or friend

What are some common compulsions?
The following are some common compulsions:

* Cleaning and grooming, such as washing hands, showering or brushing teeth over and over again
* Checking drawers, door locks and appliances to be sure they are shut, locked or turned off
* Repeating, such as going in and out of a door, sitting down and getting up from a chair, or touching certain objects several times
* Ordering and arranging items in certain ways
* Counting over and over to a certain number
* Saving newspapers, mail or containers when they are no longer needed
***** Seeking constant reassurance and approval

How common is OCD?

For many years, OCD was thought to be rare. Some recent studies show that as many as 3 million Americans ages 18 to 54 may have OCD at any one time. This is about 2.3% of the people in this age group. OCD affects men and women equally.

What causes OCD?
No one has found a single, proven cause for OCD. Some research shows that it may have to do with chemicals in the brain that carry messages from one nerve cell to another. One of these chemicals, called serotonin (say "seer-oh-tone-in"), helps to keep people from repeating the same behaviors over and over again. A person who has OCD may not have enough serotonin. Many people who have OCD can function better when they take medicines that increase the amount of serotonin in their brain.

Are other illnesses associated with OCD?
People who have OCD often have other kinds of anxiety, like phobias (such as fear of spiders or fear of flying) or panic attacks.

People who have OCD also may have depression, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), an eating disorder or a learning disorder such as dyslexia.

Having one or more of these disorders can make diagnosis and treatment more difficult, so it's important to talk to your doctor about any symptoms you have, even if you're embarrassed.

How is OCD treated?
Several medicines are available to treat OCD. These medicines include: clomipramine (brand name: Anafranil), fluoxetine (brand name: Prozac), sertraline (brand name: Zoloft), paroxetine (brand name: Paxil) and fluvoxamine (brand name: Luvox). These drugs can cause side effects such as dry mouth, nausea and drowsiness. Sometimes they also affect a person's sexual performance. It may be several weeks before you see an improvement in your behavior.

Under the guidance of a trained therapist, behavioral therapy can also be used to treat OCD. In behavioral therapy, people face situations that cause or trigger their obsessions and anxiety. Then they are encouraged not to perform the rituals that usually help control their nervous feelings. For example, a person who is obsessed with germs might be encouraged to use a public toilet without washing his or her hands more than once. To use this method, a person who has OCD must be able to tolerate the high levels of anxiety that can result from the experience.

08-22-2007, 07:41 AM
Ah, Barbara's true colors shine!

She obviously doesn't believe in the existence of mind control programs and places more stock in the doctors that they FRONT!

I wonder why RedRat commented to me that he's given me alot of leeway.

Strange to say the least.

08-22-2007, 08:05 AM
The "FATAL ERROR" message received when trying to open page 15 of the "Unholy Bruce" thread is not a glitch.

It's a message!

I wonder why This Train prefaced one of his comments in the "Political World" cafe with:

I've got a fever and there's only one cure for that.

It did not in any way shape or form have a connection to his post.

08-22-2007, 08:17 AM
Springsteen should have titled his album, "Black Magic." Afterall this is what he's been practicing on his fans for decades.

They whine about this and whine about that when he doesn't live up to their expectations because they are adults who have been place in child-like altered states of consciousness.

He's their LEADER. They are his followers. They've dedicated their lives to him; they've given him everything; heart, soul, control and they want him to reciprocate.

The want to have their every little wish fulfilled. Play this song, tour this area, use this photograph on the cover. AS if they have any input or muscle in the music industry.

It's all an ILLUSION.

They've done everything he wants and they want Springsteen to satisfy their desires; do as they would like in return for their love, admiration, dedication and worship of him.

The illusion created is that he gives them something.

The fact is that he gives them music that they buy and tours that they attend and he delivers to the music industry and not them.

They believe he exists to satisfy them and not the "music industry" mobsters.

08-22-2007, 08:20 AM
Very strange!

A poster comments that she saw "Little Steven" in his car. She was right next to him.

From this she ascertains that he must have been going back to New York. He must have been at Springsteen's house.

He looked to be in good spirits.

She apologizes for not being able to get more information.

08-22-2007, 08:27 AM
Certain threads seem to be getting "locked up" over at BTX.

I may have provided this link previously, but, here it is again.

The "Album Cover" thread:


08-22-2007, 08:38 AM
Need to affix this link here for future comments about Springsteen's new CD.

They keep throwin' the CHILDREN bones. Or should I say they keep throwin' their well-behaved, obey on command DOGS a bone:


On another note, the poster who made comment about Springsteen's Magic song being a cross betwween this and a cross between that. The song "Message in a Bottle" and "Don't fear the Reaper."

I think it was for other purposes.

I've stated on this thread that as far as I'm concerned, "Blue Oyster Cult's," song "Don't Fear the Reaper" is a suicide song and for me, in the past it was alter changing and invoked emotional change.

Being aware when incarcerated or not as to the change in my state of being for no particular personal reason, but due to an outside force was tantamount to pinpointing the "trigger" and MY core remaining in control.

08-22-2007, 09:52 AM
In trying to access page 15 of the "Unholy Bruce" thread, I went to his/her name which shows as the last post on that thread and clicked on it.

This brings up the username's posts.

I've provided the link:


In an attempt to read what was written on page 15, I clicked the Promised Land on the first post by Unholy Bruce, which is, testing, testing, 1, 2, 3.

This should bring you to the thread so you can read the rest of the comment, but it brings you back to The Promised Land forum.



There was also a thread started in "The Promised Land" with the title, testing and the comment testing. Nothing else.





"Unholy Bruce" lists his occupation as "local hero" and his residence as E. Colt's Neck.

Apparently one particular poster on the site feels that some of them are being randomly blocked from certain threads.

When I click the link above, it says that my search criteria cannot be made and the page is blank.

I have the page minimized and it reflects what I just described.

I also received this message in trying to access MovieLady's history of posts.

08-22-2007, 09:59 AM
Here is the link again. I want to see if I receive the same message.


Here is a paste and copy of the page that I have minimized:

Search found 82 matches

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Testing, testing...1, 2, 3...
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Why Winona?
I dunno. Ask the other 10 million guys who wanna bone her.

She always talks about me in the press and she's very friendly whenever I see her. She even called me the only sex ...
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The interest off what I netted in '85/'86 alone could pay for all the horse stuff a million times over

I know you're rich, but you MUST be shopping at the discount places if you can honestly affo ...
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Forum: The Promised Land Posted: Aug 21, 2007 1:56 pm Subject: Ask Unholy Bruce!
Do you really believe that everything that dies someday comes back?
Thinking that maybe everything that dies someday comes back is so 1982! Knowing that death is all just dust and dark is where i ...
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Unholy Bruce

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Forum: The Promised Land Posted: Aug 21, 2007 1:48 pm Subject: Ask Unholy Bruce!
Dear U.B,

Any truth to the rumor that the '07-'08 tour will be titled the "Holy Shit, Patti, We Spent HOW MUCH On Equestrian Expenses Last Year???" tour?

Be honest...

Uh, R. ...
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Unholy Bruce

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Forum: The Promised Land Posted: Aug 21, 2007 12:29 pm Subject: Ask Unholy Bruce!
Bruce the Unholy,

I certainly appreciate your various styles of music you have given to us fans in the recent years (i.e. solo, dabbling with many different instruments, the jug band tour, etc.), b ...
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Unholy Bruce

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Forum: The Promised Land Posted: Aug 21, 2007 12:13 pm Subject: Ask Unholy Bruce!
Dear Unholy Bruce,

Do you have a favorite nickname for your . . . uh . . . hmmm, how shall I put this delicately? . . . your "magic wand"? If so, what is it?



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Unholy Bruce

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Forum: The Promised Land Posted: Aug 21, 2007 12:02 pm Subject: Ask Unholy Bruce!
not John Henry?

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Unholy Bruce

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Forum: The Promised Land Posted: Aug 21, 2007 12:00 pm Subject: Ask Unholy Bruce!
Bruce the Unholy,

I certainly appreciate your various styles of music you have given to us fans in the recent years (i.e. solo, dabbling with many different instruments, the jug band tour, etc.), b ...
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Unholy Bruce

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Forum: The Promised Land Posted: Aug 21, 2007 11:53 am Subject: Ask Unholy Bruce!
Do you really believe that everything that dies someday comes back?
Thinking that maybe everything that dies someday comes back is so 1982! Knowing that death is all just dust and dark is where i ...
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Unholy Bruce

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Forum: The Promised Land Posted: Aug 21, 2007 11:05 am Subject: Ask Unholy Bruce!
Dear U.B,

Saw the new album cover.

Is that the same t-shirt you were wearing on the Darkness cover, you unwashed slob?
Dear R.J.R.:

After reviewing the number of posts from my fans who seem ...
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Unholy Bruce

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Forum: The Promised Land Posted: Aug 21, 2007 10:37 am Subject: Ask Unholy Bruce!
Dear Unholy Bruce,

Do you have a favorite nickname for your . . . uh . . . hmmm, how shall I put this delicately? . . . your "magic wand"? If so, what is it?



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Unholy Bruce

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Forum: The Promised Land Posted: Aug 21, 2007 10:35 am Subject: Ask Unholy Bruce!
Oh thou great unholiness,

After reviewing the album artwork I've got to wonder if you'll ever learn. Don't you know by now you should run those by us not Landau.
Seems to me that Jonny-boy's done ...
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Unholy Bruce

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Forum: The Promised Land Posted: Aug 21, 2007 10:25 am Subject: Ask Unholy Bruce!
Dear Unholy Yes I'm talkin' to you.

What is the real reason you've not played MISSING live?
The lyric blows.

You had written in on your setlist during the Devils & Dust tour. ...
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Unholy Bruce

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Forum: The Promised Land Posted: Aug 20, 2007 11:09 pm Subject: Ask Unholy Bruce!
Dear Unholy Bruce:

Do you ever wish you'd gotten out and toured the world a bit more, like say, U2? More visits to South America, Eastern Europe, Asia and AUSTRALIA?? Instead of hanging around J ...

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08-22-2007, 10:24 AM
So, based upon the several threads wherein posters who appear not to be regulars at BTX state that they've listened to Springsteen's song MAGIC and/or all of the songs on the CD reporting that MAGIC is a cross between...this and that, and that the words, "Is anybody alive out there, repeat over and over again in one song," when the CD is available for purchase and the lyrics "on-line," we'll see if this holds any water.

IF not, were these posters just "pranksters," or a part of the operation being made to look like pranksters, but posting what they did with other "motives" in mind.

08-22-2007, 10:24 AM
The JURY is being assembled.

08-22-2007, 11:00 AM
At one point, while I was on the SONY site and writing poetry/lyrics, I was being encourged by Holy Ghost to go over to another area of the forum other than Political World where posters write poetry.

I thought to myself. Are you kidding me? That's not my mission.

I'm sure had I taken this suggestion seriously, I would have been "sucked" further down the rabbit hole; placed in a HERO WORSHIP state of mind for Springsteen and hence, interference with my agenda.


HERO; a person who is admired for their courage.

Why is it Springsteen is referred to as a HERO and why is it he accepts this false label?

What heroic act has he performed?

Run into a burning building on 911 to rescue victims of our government?

Performed an unimaginable feat/task?

It's more like this label is used so his fans worship him as a HERO.

HERO WORSHIP; excessive admiration for someone.

Why is Springsteen referred to as a champion for the blue collar worker?

What has he done for the blue collar worker?

He's made millions pretending to be a hero, rich man in poor man's clothes to attract blue collar workers to him.

The label, "The Boss."

How can anyone live with these labels when they are purely opposite of the person's character whom they define?

Someone without morals.

08-22-2007, 11:11 AM
If Springsteen's fans got a life, Spider, it wouldn't include him; therefore, he wouldn't atrract as large an audience of blind faithful, child-like adults to entertain.

That's the point, afterall, when you spend decades placing your fans under your control.

Worship THE MAN (forgot about that Springsteen title, too. May be one I gave him, because I couldn't stand saying his name and would constantly comment that I couldn't stand THE MAN. I hate THE MAN), attract the sheeple, make big bucks.

I would say your post is tongue in cheek.

You don't look to chase Springsteen's fans away. You look to suck them in through the use of "black magic."

Again, I think the title track should have been "Black Magic."

08-22-2007, 11:26 AM
The "Ladies Picture" thread seems to be encountering problems.

May have posted this link earlier, but just in case, here it is again.


08-22-2007, 11:31 AM
There's no point in reprimanding Springsteen's children.

All of you, including THE MAN himself, molded and shaped them to your liking.

You've got to learn to live with what you can't rise above.

You reap what you sow!

08-22-2007, 11:35 AM
Take a look at the second post.


08-22-2007, 11:41 AM
Oh, poor Springsteen.

New thread title:

"How Can a Poor Rocker Stand Such Fans and Live?"

Inaccurate thread title.

Since when is Springsteen a poor rocker? He's a hero, remember? He's a legend? He's a champion for the blue-collar worker; he's THE BOSS; he's THE MAN.

Is this an attempt to squelch his fan's negative opinions.

Yes, poor Springsteen, how can he stand all that money that his fans bestow upon him and live?

Must be really difficult, eh?

I'm sure he's so bothered by the criticism that at night he wakes up with his sheets soak and wet and a freight train running through the middle of his head or maybe it feels like someone took a knife, baby, edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley through the middle of his soul.

08-22-2007, 05:17 PM
I'll need to comment on these threads from BTX later:

"Radio Nowhere" lyrics (maybe, maybe not)


"The Official Fawn all over Tom Johnson" Thread


08-22-2007, 05:20 PM
What's the deal with all the white space on this page?

I was just thinking the other day how, for whatever reason(s), how the filthy pictures have not been removed from this site that some deranged individual(s) posted, but the pictures posted by THEM were.

I assume the THEM author(s) removed the pictures from their thread.

I wonder why they didn't want to leave them in their thread.

08-22-2007, 05:21 PM
For those who don't know about the THEM poster(s). The pictures were of skeleton people. They weren't FILTHY.

Suggestive, perhaps, but not filthy.

08-22-2007, 06:29 PM
At the end of Patti Scailfa's low-budget music video, "Looking for Elvis," Springsteen fanatics especially like the "deep breath" he gives at the end.


Unbelieveable, but true.


Read this description of Scailfa by a Bruce fanatic:

Patti's got to be Bruce's soul mate, sounds a lot like Nebraska era Bruce as her muse.

For the few remaining that think NJ is mostly like the Soprano's opening, their Colts Neck farm setting is pretty much like a lot of Monmouth County west of the shore.

I think it's a pretty fair assumption that Patti is ordering from Victoria Secret, I wonder if Bruce looks forward to the new catalogues as much I do when my wife's arrives in the mail?


This poster thinks it's a fair assumption that Scailfa is ordering from Victoria's Secrets.

I'd have to say that unless you didn't notice that she was wearing the same wardrobe in both videos as on the cover of her album, your assumption is wrong. That is, of course, unless you've personally seen her in Victoria's Secrets lingerie, which is what you seem to be implying.

Perhaps, if Springsteen looks forward to the new catalogue of Victoria's Secret's angels, he ought to spend a little less time looking at the pictures and place an order for his muse and soul mate.

Or, perhaps, give her his black American Express card.

Her knew high heels might look better with some lingerie from Victoria's Secrets or at least something from Fifth Avenue.

Some make-up might help, too!

08-22-2007, 06:33 PM
Unholy Bruce must be livin' in the past with that decade's old picture of him and Patti!

He tells his fans that it isn't 1978 anymore, but seems to me, he's stuck there too!

08-22-2007, 06:37 PM
Maybe Patti ought to tie her hair back real pretty in a bow!

08-22-2007, 06:51 PM
I have copied and pasted several BTX links that seem to be experiencing problems into my word program.

Let's see if they remain there.

By the way, someone on BTX mentioned that Springsteen's speech inducting Bono/U2 into the Hall of Fame was missing from the internet.

Haven't checked into that; however, you know that I copied most of it to this thread and commented on it.

His induction speech referenced the dangerousness and sexuality of an incestuous song by U2 and I believe Springsteen also referenced that they worship the down under.

So, any help in making sure pertinent information is put in the vault before it disappears, is appreciated.


Couldn't do it without you!


P.S. My cable continually goes in and out making it a necessity that I copy what I write before I hit the post button.

08-22-2007, 07:27 PM
The CHILDREN are soooooooo excited.

Some have even had the priviledge of hearing this song!

Radio Nowhere
Bruce Springsteen

Radio Nowhere

I was trying to find my way home,
But all I heard was a drone.
Bouncin' off a satellite
Crushing the last long American night.

This is radio nowhere.
Is there anybody alive out there?
This is radio nowhere.
Is there anybody alive out there?

I was sitting around a dirt dial
Just another lost number in a file.
Been in some kinda dark cove
Just searching for a world with some soul.

This is radio nowhere.
Is there anybody alive out there?
This is radio nowhere.
Is there anybody alive out there?
Is there anybody alive out there?

I just want to hear some rhythm.
I just want to hear some rhythm
I just want to hear some rhythm.
I just want to hear some rhythm.

I want a thousand guitars.
I want pounding drums.
I want a million different voices speaking in tongues.

This is radio nowhere.
Is there anybody alive out there?
This is radio nowhere.
Is there anybody alive out there?
Is there anybody alive out there?

(Sax solo)

I was driving thru the misty rain
Yeah, searching for a mystery train.
Bopping thru the wild blue
Trying to make a connection with you.

This is radio nowhere.
Is there anybody alive out there?
This is radio nowhere.
Is there anybody alive out there?
Is there anybody alive out there?

I just want to hear some rhythm (you swoon.)
I just want to hear some rhythm (you swoon.)
I just want to hear you swoon.
I just want to hear you swoon.
I just want to hear you swoon.
I just want to hear you swoon.
I just want to hear you swoon.
I just want to hear you swoon.


One poster says:

This song SPEAKS volumes.

Volumes of what????


I'll say!

She/he says the song is a statement to the poor state of radio airplay... a slap in the face of the major corporations that control our airwaves and our culture.

when he sings

I want a thousand guitars.
I want pounding drums.
I want a million different voices speaking in tongues.

he's praying for what is real... what is from the soul... what music once was and what it needs to be again...

he's turning a dial and coming up empty...

I can't wait for this tour.



She/he ascertains that Springsteen is praying for what is real; what is from the soul; what music once was and what it needs to be again.

HE doesn't say that in any way, shape or form in these lyrics.


This poster must have been briefed in order to plant the message.

Excuse me, but Springsteen's a major player who helped to turn music into trash and pornography.

Get a grip!

Such creative minds, these followers have!

She/he says it's a slap in the face of major radio corporations that control our airwaves and culture.

Springsteen happens to be the one controlling your mind and an influence of the decay of our culture and is a part of the airwaves.

He works for the major radio corporations.

What a dunce!

08-22-2007, 07:37 PM
From the "Unholy Bruce" thread:

movielady wrote:

Dear Unholy Bruce,
Thank God you have returned...oh, wait should I sat that if you're unholy , well, anyway I am totally under your spell and can now sleep knowing you are still with us. Don't ever leave, you hear me. I won't be ignored, Mr Unholy Bruceman

oh, sorry that was unholy movielady, I don't know how she got out but it was probably due to the stress of not having you here

I'm better now

Welcome back

Leah wrote:

Please pardon the interruption U.B., but I have a question for movielady:

ML, if holy ML wants to ride holy Bruce "like a Harley on a bad piece of road", what on earth does unholy ML want to do to unholy Bruce?

(If it's really, really filthy, please feel free to PM me the details. )

08-22-2007, 08:21 PM
The INSIDERS have heard the song, "Radio Nowhere." They are hyping it to the max at the "Bruce Springsteen Institute of Mind Control and Brainwashing," courtesy of www.backstreets.com.

They are so thrilled. It's party time. It's going to clean-up at the grammys. It rocks!!!

You know, when Springsteen does well, they do well, too.

They feel his pain. They relish in his glory. They are, as children, emotionally connected to him as if he were their DADDY!

He is their leader. He is their hero.

They feel great when he succeeds because his life is their life.

Those who aren't on the inside are begging to receive the link via PM or email address.

08-22-2007, 08:29 PM
Apparently DNA likes being sucked in, as if he already isn't.

He says, in response to the line in "Radio Nowhere," Is Anybody Alive Out There:

I'm alive right here! I'm alive right here! An absolutely gorgeous rocker. I'm on about my 15th consecutive listening, and it just keeps pulling me in more and more. Can't wait to hear this and the rest of the album live, and in the pit!

This is Ray.


Oh, no . . .


Isn't it interesting how the major players on the forum all seem to be able to get PIT tickets?

He keeps listening because he likes getting pulled in more and more and considers Springsteen a gorgeous rocker.

15th consecutive listen.

Oh, my!

Talk about obsessive compulsive disorder.

I think he's just about reached "la la" land and is headin' for OZ.

08-22-2007, 08:40 PM
No artist is hated or criticized more than POOR Bruce, one poster comments.

Yeah, poor Bruce. I'm sure the criticism just hurts his sympathetic soul all the way to the bank.

This poster says, he keeps trying.

Trying what?

To please his fans.

What a clown.

As if that's why he produces music!

He produces music for his handlers and owners.

They, Springsteen and the media have delivered his music/lyrics and developed his character in such a way that is completely opposite of what he is and, in the process amassed a "cult following" of brainwashed sheeple.

Yeah, poor Bruce.

He just get's so abused, doesn't he?

08-22-2007, 09:04 PM
A poster comments on "Radio Nowhere"


And yeah, it's already hit the charts on my itunes Top 50 Most Played playlist, in two hours, my frat now hates me for blasting it (screw 'em, they all like hip hop - darn heathens). . . God it's awesome.

One of the greatest pleasures in my life is hearing new music by a beloved artist for the first time. The excitement of discovery, I guess. But no one else, not my beloved Stevie Ray Vaughan, not Robert Cray, nobody compares to Bruce on that score.

Hearing a song of his for the first time is an experience unmatched by anything in the world that I've ever experienced.

And one like this? It's just incredible. Those guitars roll in ("sound sweet as sin" John Hiatt would say), Max kicks in with just the right force, and then you hear that same voice that you've heard over and over but never fails to bring a smile to your face. I can't help immediately air guitaring and singing along. It'll play another fifteen times before I go to bed.

And I probably won't sleep.

There's no experience like the Bruce experience. Bring on the tour!


How Pathetic is that?

DNA posts a commentary by Tom Johnson after having heard the new album.

It's signed,
Tom Johnson
No Surrender


I don't surrender to anyone.

I report!

That's my job!

Always was. Always will be.

Another poster begins a thread, Oh.

Someone comments, "Take it off."

Another posters replies, listen to him and "Take it off."

Totally out of context.

Get my drift?

08-22-2007, 09:07 PM
Oh, then there is the comment by "Unholy Bruce." If you want to read page 15 which, when accessed, displays, "Fatal Error," you have to log in and click "reveiw thread."

Oh, yes, you have to log in and "review thread."

Get where I'm coming from?

08-22-2007, 09:19 PM
One poster's mouth is watering for the song, "Radio Nowhere" to be emailed to him and he supplies his email addy.

Get my drift?

A thread is started so that each poster can report how many times they've listened to "Radio Nowhere."

Another poster, BigJed, says he played it on the radio tonight and another poster refers to him as his/her pet!

Desperado, when will you come to your senses?

It's over!

08-22-2007, 09:31 PM
This is frightening.

A poster states that/he is 17, his first post, is a Springsteen addict and wants the link for "Radio Nowhere."


Another poster with one post tells him/her to send his email followed by two question marks.


Posters who have been there 24/7/365 have had a more difficult time.

But, it seems they want to accommodate this 17 year old.

08-22-2007, 09:37 PM
This is so SAD!

People who have been unable to hear "Radio Nowhere" sound so desperate.

They are begging.

They are pleading.

They are leaving their email addresses on the site.

They are commenting that they're going crazy and need to drink the kool-aid.

How sad!

How very, very sad for them!

08-22-2007, 09:44 PM
Tom Johnson ends his commentary about the "Magic" album with, "Do you believe in Magic?" I do.


You believe in Magic?

What kind?


Is there any other???

08-23-2007, 10:00 AM
You seriously have to question whether or not the entire episode yesterday with the LEAKED "Radio Nowhere" lyrics was orchestrated?

Are they really even the lyrics, one poster asks and S41 answers, NO! When asked by another poster for her to explain, she drops the ball.

As far as Clarence and the sax being prominent in the song because it might be due to the fact that this is his swan song (last time around) with the Band, Springsteen is giving him is proper due.

This poster comments we should all be so lucky as to have friends like Springsteen.


A friend waits until your career is over to put you in the limelight?

Yep. With friends like that, who needs enemies?

08-23-2007, 10:21 AM
S41 says she worked in the business for years.

I'm thinkin' to myself.

Aren't you still workin' in the business at BTX carrying around that juke box on your back?

One person says he/she feels like he/she is the only person who hasn't heard Radio Nowhere.

I'm thinkin' to myself.

You're the only person on the board, maybe, but not.

Don't you see the begging and pleading that is going on?

There are millions of people all over the world who haven't heard it and quite frankly, don't care if they ever do or not.

ME included!

Another posters says it must be great according to the reviews.

Well, yeah.

The reviews by Springsteen's posse.

They're saying that BRUCE is back.

I'm thinkin' to myself.

Did he go somewhere?

Took a wrong turn and never came back?

Or was he in another state of mind?

Radio Nowhere is described by some as a call and response due to the "Is Anybody Alive out there" line.


When HELL freezes over!

08-23-2007, 03:10 PM
There was a brief article written on the web about how Springsteen's single, "Radio Nowhere" from his new CD "Magic" is circling around.

The writer comments that in the song, Springsteen says, "Is there anybody alive out there."

From this, he ascertains that Springsteen is looking for salavation through rock and roll.


I'll tell you this, pal.

Springsteen's not going to find salvation in rock and roll or anywhere for that matter.

Rock and Roll brought him down the rabbit hole even further than he was before he sold his soul to the devil.



A poster is coaxing people who think listening to Radio Nowhere will hurt Springsteen financially, to listen to it because it will ultimately only HELP HIM FINANCIALLY.

These people drain their bank accounts to see this man perform (the rich get richer and the poor get poorer), stuff his pockets and the music mobster's pockets. Apparently they are more concerned with Springsteen's wealth than they are with their own.


Somewhat strange, isn't it. How these posters keep repeating the line:

Is there anybody alive out there?

As if that's the name of the song.

This poster comments:

Is there anybody alive out there? Awesome song!

08-23-2007, 03:28 PM
What tools and fools!

There are links on the web for downloading "Magic." The writer above even mentioned this. "Magic is circling the web."

However, you are not allowed to post this link at Springsteen's BTX site.


Providing your email address on the site and having someone send you the link is okay.




These people make NO sense!

08-23-2007, 06:31 PM
I think it's time to look into Paul Simon's songs/lyrics:

Loves Me Like A Rock
Paul Simon

Loves Me Like a Rock

When I was a little boy, (when I was just a boy)
And the Devil would call my name (when I was just a boy)
I'd say "now who do,
Who do you think you're fooling?" (when I was just a boy)
I'm a consecrated boy (when I was just a boy)
I'm a singer in a Sunday choir
Oh , my mama loves, she loves me
She get down on her knees and hug me
Like she loves me like a rock
She rocks me like the rock of ages
And loves me
She love me, love me, love me, love me

When I was grown to be a man (grown to be a man)
And the Devil would call my name (grown to be a man)
I'd say "now who do,
Who do you think you're fooling?" (grown to be a man)
I'm a consummated man (grown to be a man)
I can snatch a little purity
My mama loves me, she loves me
She get down on her knees and hug me
Like she loves me like a rock
She rocks me like the rock of ages
And loves me
She love me, love me, love me, love me
And if I was President (was the President)
The minute Congress call my name (was the President)
I'd say "who do,
Who do you think you're fooling? (Who do you think you're fooling)

I've got the Presidential Seal (was the president)
I'm up on the Presidential Podium
My mama loves me
She loves me
She get down on her knees and hug me
Like she loves me like a rock
She rocks me like the rock of ages
And loves me

Fade out:
She love me, love me, love me, love me
(loves me like a rock)


You know, singing about being a little boy and your mama getting down on her knees and hugging you, ain't nothing wrong with that.

But when you're singing about being a consummated man and you say you can snatch a little purity and then go into a verse that says your mama gets down on her knees and loves you, loves you like a rock, she rock you like the rock of ages, is a little strange.

08-23-2007, 06:40 PM
Paul Simon

Couple in the next room
Bound to win a prize
They've been goin' at it all night long
Well,I'm trying t get some sleep
but these motel walls are cheap
Lincoln Duncan is my name
and here's my song
Here's my song

my father was a fisherman
my mama was the fisherman's friend
and I was born in the boredom and the chowder
So when I reached my prime
I left my home in the maritimes
Headed down the turnpike for New England
Sweet New England

Holes in my confidence
Holes in the knees of my jeans
I was left without a penny in my pocket
Oo-ooo-oo wee I was about
destituted as a kid could be
And I wished I wore a ring
so I could hock it
I'd like to hock it

A young girl in a parking lot
was preaching to a crowd
singin sacred songs and
reading from the Bible
Well I told her I was lost
and she told me all about the Pentecost
And I seen that girl as the road to my survi-val

Just later on the very same night
When I crept to her tent with a flashlight
and my long years of innocence ended
Well she took me to the woods sayin'
"Here comes somethin' and it feels so good!"
And just like a dog I was befriended
I was befriended

Oh, oh, what a night
Oh what a garden of delight
Even now that sweet memory lingers
I was playin' my guitar
lying underneath the stars
Just thankin' the Lord for my fingers
For my fingers

08-23-2007, 07:18 PM
As far as the "If you were Patti thread:"

Fanatics are now concerned because Patti will be performing with the ESB and won't be able to tour after her CD is released.

Oh, poor Patti!
Oh, poor Bruce!

They're also concerned because the song "Radio Nowhere" was released before her CD. Not sure when her CD is being released. Could be Springsteen's CD is coming out first.

Nevertheless, they're concerned because they feel Springsteen might be stealing his own wife's thunder and her chance in the spotlight.

One poster is close, but not exactly right.

He says knowing Bruce the way we all do, these release dates are all well planned out.

Perhaps it is done on purpose to give Patti a good excuse for poor sales?


Scailfa doesn't need a good excuse for poor sales.

When are you people going to call a spade a spade.

Accept the fact that she isn't talented enough to have sales that aren't poor.

What were the sales for "Rumble Doll" and "23rd Street Lullaby?"

The only people interested in her music are most probably Springsteen SLAVES because they want to make THEIR BOSS happy.

Other than that, who else?

If Patti were a part of the decision making process, like I've said all along, she could have released her CD way before the ESB CD and tour or after it was over.

I mean, was it so critical that she release it right around the time of Springsteen's release and tour with the ESB? Don't you think maybe this was planned to give her more publicity?

Or do you think it detracts?

Either way, it doesn't really matter. No one was expecting a grammy winner.

I mean, do you seriously think Patti Scailfa is a "cash cow" and the E Street Band would be put on the back burner to accomodate her?

Do you seriously think Springsteen and Scailfa didn't know when the ESB would tour and when the CD "Magic" would debut?

Do you think that Patti Scailfa actually believes she has a large fan base?

If she does, she's in la-la land.

You just feel sorry for Patti because she's married to your hero whom you think has fantastic talents (marginal, at best) and you want her to be as successful as he is.

Ain't going to happen!

She's a back-up singer in a rock and roll band and most of you can't stand her voice.

Don't you think Scailfa understands that she doesn't have a large enough fan base to TOUR!?!

The music mobsters aren't going to book venues she can't fill and lose money.

The mobsters aren't going to spend more on her CD and touring than they'll receive in profits.

Springsteen is one of their cash cows and they appease her for this reason.

Why do you think her videos were so low-budget?

The same outfit in both videos as on the cover?

Like one poster said, for Scailfa, it's a hobby that she's been able to embark upon three times over how many decades?

For all you know, the Springsteen's could have financed the venture themselves.

As far as Patti's contract, whatever it is and with whomever as you folks think, it was long ago before she married Springsteen and was a part of the E Street Band.

If you think it still exists, I suggest you do some research.

I could be wrong.

But, go ahead.

Prove me right!

08-23-2007, 08:08 PM
The children are so excited because many of them believe the song "Radio Nowhere" is a slap in the face to the radio stations for playing the kind of music they play today.

These people don't realize the music comes from the music mobsters who own the musicians and, therefore, have no choice but to play what is being produced?

If it weren't for the music mobsters and musicians, what would they play? Air?

They own the airwaves! Television and radio.

Some stations are better than others, but, geez, people, get your facts learned real well about the "Musical Industrial Complex" of which your hero is a part.

I assume they don't find any music appealing other than Springsteen's stuff.

But, oh, no! THEIR BOSS is going to set these radio stations straight with this song, "Radio Nowhere." Oh, yes, what an impact he will have in changing the way the music mobsters work. The very people who own him.

Gee, it took him this long to slap them in the face with a song that has nothing to do with what these posters think.

Thirty plus years. Oh, yeah, he was busy creating, contributing and being a part of the music industry that produces the trash on the airwaves.

What vivid imaginations they have!

One poster thinks Springsteen doesn't get alot of airplay.

Gee, I wonder why?

Most of his songs other than "Dancing in the Dark" don't lend themselves very well to radio.

He relies on his slaves to buy his CDs, DVDs, reproduced, remastered, re-released productions and attend 3,4 shows each time he tours.

These people are beyond help!

This poster also says that "57 Channels" was a slap in the face of the television industry.

57 Channels
Bruce Springsteen

I bought a bourgeois house in the Hollywood hills
With a truckload of hundred thousand dollar bills
Man came by to hook up my cable TV
We settled in for the night my baby and me
We switched 'round and 'round 'til half-past dawn
There was fifty-seven channels and nothin' on

Well now home entertainment was my baby's wish
So I hopped into town for a satellite dish
I tied it to the top of my Japanese car
I came home and I pointed it out into the stars
A message came back from the great beyond
There's fifty-seven channels and nothin' on

Well we might'a made some friends with some billionaires
We might'a got all nice and friendly
If we'd made it upstairs
All I got was a note that said "Bye-bye John
Our love is fifty-seven channels and nothin' on"

So I bought a .44 magnum it was solid steel cast
And in the blessed name of Elvis well I just let it blast
'Til my TV lay in pieces there at my feet
And they busted me for disturbin' the almighty peace
Judge said "What you got in your defense son?"
"Fifty-seven channels and nothin' on"
I can see by your eyes friend you're just about gone
Fifty-seven channels and nothin' on...


Oh, yeah, John (Bruce Springsteen) in this song really makes a profound statement to the cable/television industry.

He sure set them straight!

What a HERO!

08-23-2007, 09:08 PM
Oh, yes, MadMel, stuff like that starts to jump out at you on repeat listens of "Radio Nowhere."

Yep, it just jumps right out at you.

Are you making it up?

Or, spinning it at the "Springsteen Institute of Mind Control and Brainwashing?"

MadMel likes the idea (thank goodness, cause you know, it's all about pleasing you) of the song being Bruce's ament about what has happened to rock & roll on the radio.

Notice how she refers to the SPIN as an IDEA!


This is the SPIN now for the song, "Radio Nowhere."

Excuse me, but SPRINGSTEEN is a big part of what has happened to our society because of Rock and Roll music.

The FILTH that he is, sings about and spreads in his songs!

Another poster talks about Springsteen's desperation and isolation with the line:

"Is anybody alive out there."

This is what he IMAGINES from this line.

Oh, poor Springsteen.

Desperate and isolated.

Someone asked Unholy Bruce what he wanted to prove in the song, "Prove it All Night."

His answer.

THE CHARACTER, he supposes, wanted to prove his devotion to his girl in some form or fashion.

Oh, right!!

"In the end, you have to look at a song and not know where it came from".....Bruce Springteen.

08-23-2007, 09:19 PM
Oh, the analyzation about a NOTHING song, "Radio Nowhere" begins.

The house psychobabblist, DNA, explains it all. Yes, it's so deep. The lyrics to "Radio Nowhere" are just soooooooo deep.

This is what DNA imagines the song is about. More SPIN that Springsteen is slapping the radio stations in the face.

The man who is a part of the "musical industrial complex" and owned by the music mobsters who produce the filth our children listen to, such as Springsteen's filth, is slapping the radio stations in the face.

I'm sure there will be dire consequences for the radio stations.

Yeah, right!

But, great reward for Springsteen and the music mobsters when the song gets air time and publicity leading up to the tour.


DNA says:

There are several different layers of meaning in this song.

SEVERAL DIFFERENT LAYERS, WOW! You are so perceptive. Good thing you're around to explain this to everyone.

At its simplest, I think it most assuredly is directing itself to the lack of decent contemporary rock 'n roll music being heard on the radio these days. It's mostly nowhere to be found on the dial.

Really? I guess that's cause Springsteen and the rest of the Rock and Roll pigs have been producing filth for the music mobsters for decades along with everyone else they own.

And, quasi-ironically, the song itself is an excellent example of what's missing from the airwaves.

WOW!! This is what's missing from the airwaves? A song like "Radio Nowhere?" How come it took Springsteen three decades before he decided to clean up the airwaves, as you say. Inspire them. What a tool you are. Psychobabble away.

It would be very cool if as a result of a lot of airplay, this tune resulted in inspiring programmers to play more like it from other artists.

This tune's going to make money and so is the tour. Yeah, the programmers are going to listen to "Radio Nowhere" and be inspired. Springsteen is going to single handedly clean-up the airwaves. More like clean-up monetarily.

If anyone has the power to persuade and give radio a much-needed jumpstart, Bruce just might be the guy. And most especially if there are 2 or more hits from his new album. I think it's going to be fun, and potentially very rewarding for diehard Bruce fans, to see how all of this plays out. Maybe that's the real "magic" Bruce is trying to pull off, no?

Springsteen has no power over anyone or anything except his brainwashed slaves and fans. Yeah, that's the real MAGIC, DNA. Grow up! Magic is for children or those who are incarcerated in a "satanic cult." More like black magic.


DNA, you are OUT TO LUNCH, buddy!

Springsteen doesn't have the power to change anything.

Never did.

Never will

It's all an illusion that was created and you play right into it.

I'm sure you're so concerned about what the radio stations play, just as Springsteen is.

They play his filth, don't they?

So, maybe they'll clean house and throw his trash out, too!!

Yeah, I'm sure that's just what he wants to acheive with this song!

08-23-2007, 09:52 PM
So many of Springsteen's songs don't make sense; have no rhyme or reason, PERIOD!

The psychobabble that has commenced in explaining what his newest song, "Radio Nowhere" is about is necessary and so, too, is Springsteen's quote, "in the end, you have to look at a song and not know where it came from" because there is rarely a theme in his songs unless he's talking about having sex with a "little girl, woman, or man.

If Springsteen intended to write a song about the sad state of radio airplay and wanted to use his so-called power, which is an illusion his fans have bought into, to change the state of what is played on the radio, and, if he was such a great lyricist and songwriter, perhaps, he should have said what he meant.

It would have had a much broader effect instead of writing a song where the theme it addresses is hidden and cryptic.

But, isn't that the MO with most of his songs?

Hence, again, the reason for the SPIN, the psychobabble and Springsteen's quote.

Radio Nowhere
Is Anybody Alive Out There


Those lines are truly addressing the condition of radio and are really going to have a major impact on what the programmers play from this day forward.

All because of this CRYPTIC song by Springsteen.

WE can all sleep peacefully now.

No worries about terrorist threats, police state, satanists.

Springsteen to the rescue!

What a HERO!!!

What would the world do without him?

His music saves us all!!

08-24-2007, 09:03 AM
Apparently, I missed the article that the following response from Patti Scailfa addresses:

Anyone care to post the link to the original article on this thread?


News - Music, movie, Entertainment
Movie & Entertainment News provided by World Entertainment News Network (www.wenn.com)
2007-08-24 08:05:58 -

BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN's wife PATTI SCIALFA was worried about how the couple's three children would react to reports they had separated because the rocker was having an affair - but was relieved when they found the stories so amusing.
Last year (06), the New York Post newspaper claimed Springsteen and Scialfa had gone their separate ways after he fell for a mystery redhead.
And when Scialfa showed the kids the tabloid, they fell about laughing.
She recalls, "I showed them the papers and said, 'I just want you to know this is out there and it's wild.' And they're all reading it laughing: 'It says Dad's living in the barn!' "I said, 'I don't want you to be upset,' and they go, 'Mom, Dad's over there making pancakes!'"


Springsteen's wife was worried about how the couple's three children would react to reports that they had separated because the rocker was having an affair.

Oh, yes, you must shield them from this FILTH that was reported, but continue to expose them to Springsteen's disgusting lyrics.

Makes perfect sense!

So, who was the writer that reported Springsteen fell for some mystery redhead?

Where did he get his information?

Certainly, it's not true, so why did he report this?

He just felt like it?

Had nothing better to do?

I would think that even IF it were TRUE, Springsteen's children would understand. Afterall, didn't their father fall for their redheaded mother while he was married?

Wouldn't be the first time.

Why do they refer to this woman as a mystery redhead?

No pictures of Springsteen with her?

They just happen to know she is a redhead and very mysterious.

I'll say!!

One poster at BTX in response to this thread said that Springsteen wasn't sleeping in the barn, he's SLEEPING WITH HIS WIFE AND CHILDREN.

Is that a slip of the tongue?

08-24-2007, 09:10 AM
A radio station in NYC just premiered Springsteen's "Radio Nowhere" and declared that Rock and Roll is back.

Did it go somewhere?

Oh, yes, the revival of Rock and Roll all courtesy of Bruce Springsteen.

What would the world do without him?

Now that he's revived Rock and Roll, we can all rest our heads on our pillows tonight knowing we are safe and sound from the threat of terrorist attacks, police state, and satanists.

What a hero!

Performing such an incredible feat!

08-24-2007, 09:19 AM
I just previewed "Radio Nowhere."

This is what I have to say about it, but then again I don't get paid the BIG BUCKS to promote it for the media darling, Bruce Springsteen.

Flat and boring!

08-24-2007, 10:10 AM
A poster asks "Unholy Bruce" what the song, "I'm on Fire" was about.

I have a suggestion.

Read the lyrics and if they're not clear to you as to what the song was about, you're playing games.

You can't interpret the song, "I'm on Fire," with lyrics that couldn't be more clear, but you can interpret "Radio Nowhere," with lyrics that have no theme.

You know, "Hey little girl is your daddy home, can he do the things to you that I do, I'm on fire.


That's a hard verse to decipher, alright.

If you're an idiot or playing dumb.

08-24-2007, 12:57 PM
From Rolling Stone:

Stop me if you've heard this one before: So there's this singer from New Jersey, used to kick around on the club scene, writes songs about ordinary lives and fast cars. . . . OK, so Patti Scialfa shares more than just an address with her illustrious husband. But what makes her third album, Play It As It Lays, much more than another Springsteen-wanna-be project is the insightful female perspective she brings to these ten songs. Again and again, she declares her independence: "I'm no whipping doll, no ball and chain," she sings on "Like Any Woman Would," elsewhere adding, "I'm not gonna dance, no puppet on a string." In her day job, Scialfa has a voice that's often compared to Ronnie Spector's brassy wail, but on these tightly focused, grown-up vignettes about sin and salvation and the hard-fought struggle for honesty in a relationship, she slurs and bebops like Rickie Lee Jones. With a crack rhythm section (including a dude named Bruce playing on almost half the tracks), Play It As It Lays reveals a woman on the other side of the tunnel of love --- confused, a little scared and ready for another spin.


Yep, Rickie Lee Jones, we all remember her short-lived music career.

Read this review!!

If you have to declare your independence over and over again, something tells me you're not independent.

Some of the lyrics sound like they're coming right out of the mouth of a mind control victim.

"No whipping doll, no ball and chain, no puppet on a string."

Well, if you are, then singing about not being those things is a by-product of many singer/songwriter's lyrics.

She sings about sin and salvation. Man, these Springsteen's sure seem to have committed alot of sin.

She sings about the hard fought struggle for honesty in a relationship.


Springsteen isn't honest with you?

WOW. Play It As It Lays reveals a woman on the other side of the tunnel of love. Confused, a little scared but ready for another spin.

Remember when Bono commented that they all knew Springsteen was spinning during the "Tunnel of Love" tour?

How sad this sounds!!

08-24-2007, 01:08 PM
This answer is a response from "Unholy Bruce" when asked about his infatuation with Winona:

"Unholy Bruce" said:

As I said, why don't you ask the other 10 million guys who wanna bone her?

Noni also talks a lot about me in the press (including calling me sexy ) and is very flirty with me whenever I see her.

Now, if Patti would just stop pussy-blocking...


He has a nickname for her (Noni); she talks about him alot in the press (haven't noticed) and when he sees her she's flirty..

Winona Judd?

So, that's the mystery redhead!

This poster has very colorful language, doesn't he?

08-24-2007, 01:20 PM
I will not be REST until the jury has been assembled.

08-24-2007, 01:25 PM
A poster comments that "Radio Nowhere" is brilliant.

YEP, a real masterpiece.

Springsteen's a genius, alright!

Please remember, it's sarcasm at its' finest!

I highly doubt he composed the music, which isn't anything to write home about anyway!

They lyrics, maybe.

They're so elementary.

Notice in the lyrics he says he's tryin' to make a connection with you.

Well, he's talkin' to his fans and apparently, he made a HUGE connection.

08-24-2007, 01:39 PM
Ah, but it has nothing to do with pointing out how lame the BTX crowd is.

It's much deeper than that.

Of this, I'm quite certain, you are aware.

08-24-2007, 02:05 PM
In an interview with Patti for Q Magazine in 1993, she said that she´d written "Line of Faith" and "Lucky Girl" and Bruce saw the titles and the next thing she knew he´d written "Leap of Faith" and "Lucky Town."

Song titles by Springsteen taken from other artists or movies:

However, keep in mind that if you search for lyrics at www.sing365.com for a particular song, many times there are pages and pages of the same title by different artists.

"Reason to Believe" - Tim Hardin (1966)
- in "Songs" Bruce wrote, in the liner notes which he sent to Landau accompanying "Nebraska," "No, not the Tim Hardin song but an original."

"Don´t Back Down" - The Beach Boys (1964)

"County Fair" - The Beach Boys (1962)

"The Promised Land" - Chuck Berry

"Red Headed Woman" - a 1932 movie starring Jean Harlow

"Mansion on the Hill" - Hank Williams
- ´´Here´s a title I stole from a Hank Williams song, so I´d like to dedicate this to him....´´ (Nashville, April 12, 2000)

"Dancing In the Dark" - Frank Sinatra

"All or Nothing At All" - Frank Sinatra

"Leah" - Roy Orbison

"Further on up the road" - Bobby ´Blue´ Bland

"The Long Goodbye" - a 1974 movie starring Elliott Gould

"I´m a Rocker" - The Raspberries

"I wanna be with you" - The Raspberries

"Downbound Train" - Chuck Berry

"(I´ve got a) Crush on You" - Frank Sinatra

"Wreck on the Highway" - Roy Acuff
- Bruce admits stealing the title in ´Songs´

"Let´s Be Friends" - Elvis Presley

"I Ain´t Got You" - Jimmy Reed

"Into the Fire" - Bryan Adams

"Straight Time" - a 1978 movie starring Dustin Hoffman

"Better Days" - Southside Johnny (1991)

"Walk Like A Man" - The Four Seasons

"Nothing Man" - Pearl Jam (1994)

"Long Walk Home" - Neil Young (1987)

"Tunnel of Love" - Dire Straits

"Thunder Road" - from a Robert Mitchum movie
- "There was this Robert Mitchum movie.....and it was about these moonshine runners down south....and I never saw the movie, I only saw the poster in the lobby at the theater (chuckles) and I took the title and I wrote this song..."


I just searched "Tunnel of Love" lyrics and 10 songs by 10 different artists were displayed, including Springsteen.

They all borrow from each other, don't they? I mean, if you have a song copyrighted, isn't the title copyrighted, too?

So, how can it be that you can use the same title of another artist's song even if the lyrics are different?

Is there a reason for this?

What I've found quite curious, is when you search a particular female name, the number of songs with the same title but each by a different artist.

08-24-2007, 02:09 PM
I wonder what happened to Scailfa's songs, Lucky Girl and Line of Faith?

I guess the titles were too close to Springsteen's for her to use them.

08-24-2007, 03:08 PM
Bruce Springsteen
The Promise

Johnny works in a factory and Billy works downtown
Terry works in a rock and roll band
Lookin' for that million-dollar sound
I got a little job down in Darlington
But some nights I don't go
Some nights I go to the drive-in, or some nights I stay home
I followed that dream just like those guys do up on the screen
And I drive a Challenger down Route 9 through the dead ends and all the bad
And when the promise was broken, I cashed in a few of my dream

Well now I built that Challenger by myself
But I needed money and so I sold it
I lived a secret I should'a kept to myself
But I got drunk one night and I told it
All my life I fought this fight
The fight that no man can never win
Every day it just gets harder to live
This dream I'm believing in
Thunder Road, oh baby you were so right
Thunder Road there's something dyin' on the highway tonight

I won big once and I hit the coast
But somehow I paid the big cost
Inside I felt like I was carryin' the broken spirits
Of all the other ones who lost
When the promise is broken you go on living
But it steals something from down in your soul
Like when the truth is spoken and it don't make no difference
Something in your heart goes cold
I followed that dream through the southwestern trucks
That dead ends in two-bit bars
And when the promise was broken I was far away from home
Sleepin' in the back seat of a borrowed car
Thunder Road, for the lost lovers and all the fixed games
Thunder Road, for the tires rushing by in the rain
Thunder Road, Billy and me we'd always say

A Broken Promise

I never made a promise
that I wasn't afraid to break
never believed in a distant dream
that carried nothin' but heartache
I haven't spent my life
carryin' a hero sign on my chest
and I didn't sell my soul
so I could be like all the rest

I never promised you
that silently I'd walk
and I never promised you
that I would never talk

you knew there'd come a day
when there'd be a price you'd pay
not to the devil himself
but for the sins upon your skin
and I'd just walk away
cause there's nothin' left to say
and you knew there'd come a day

I never made a promise
that I wasn't afraid to break
never believed in a distant dream
that carried nothin' but heartache
I haven't spent my life
carryin' a hero sign on my chest
and I didn't sell my soul
so I could be like all the rest

you thought that I was buried
deep beneath my humble soul
you thought that I was silenced
thought your life was good as gold
you thought I wouldn't make a peep
just like a "little girl" should

but I'm speaking very clear
and you can't help but hear
just like you knew I would
and my tongue it's like a knife
cuttin' pathways through your life
and you've got no place to hide
and no stinkin' alibi

I never made a promise
that I wasn't afraid to break
never believed in a distant dream
that carried nothin' but heartache
I haven't spent my life
carryin' a hero sign on my chest
and I didn't sell my soul
so I could be like all the rest

08-24-2007, 03:37 PM
The music in "Radio Nowhere" sounds just like the music in Tommy Tutone's, "Jenny," I've got your number; 867-5309.

So, what have I been saying?

Does Springsteen compose the music for all the E Street Band members?

It doesn't appear that they work together in this fashion.

Springsteen provides the lyrics/songs, those that he actually writes and the E Street Band learns/practices the music before they tour at rehearsals.

So, did the members really go to Atlanta and play their part or is this the result of sound mixers, engineers?

Just recycling the same music for different songs?

Do most singers/songwriters compose the music that accompanies their songs?

Personally, I highly doubt it.

Tommy Tutone was a one hit wonder.

Did they compose the music?

If not, they could sue!

This was a very catchy tune from Tommy Tutone and now they've given it to Springsteen to use with his song, "Radio Nowhere," hoping to for a hit.

08-24-2007, 05:32 PM
There has been quite a bit of helicopter activity today, as well as zapping which just recently commenced.

08-24-2007, 05:40 PM
I hear there is a spread of Patti Scialfa in People Magazine's September 3rd issue.

Don't know if it's the cover or not, but, anyhoo, seems like the 1970's all over again, doesn't it?

You know, when Springsteen twice appeared on the cover of Time Magazine.

I wonder.

Do you think he'll be receiving the Pulitzer Price anytime soon?

Outside of BTX, there really isn't any excitement about Springsteen, his wife, their life or their current PROJECTS.

In fact, those who don't subscribe to People Magazine probably won't buy it if Scialfa is on the cover.

Afterall, who is she anyway?

Those who do, most likely, will TURN the PAGES.

08-24-2007, 05:55 PM
MadMel believes that "Rolling Stone" magazine is more respectable than People Magazine.

I think they're both about the same. Rolling Stone probably not as popular as People Magazine.

They're geared toward people like you who are more interested in celebrity/musician's lives because they don't have a life of their own and no interest in what's going on in the world around them.

Once in a while they fill a page or two with something enlightening. A heartwarming story, so to speak, or political commentary.

Other than that, they both feature, many times, unrespectable celebrities and musicians.

Wow, if Springsteen were to appear on the cover of Rolling Stone I guess that means he made the big time!

Recycle, recycle!

Old news!

08-24-2007, 06:09 PM
So, what do you think?

I wrote the following in about ten minutes.

Am I talented?

Do you think I could have had a life of fortune and fame in the music industry?

Do you think I opted out for very good reasons?

Do you think I should have taken the money I was offered in exchange for my silence?

A Broken Promise

I never made a promise
that I wasn't afraid to break
never believed in a distant dream
that carried nothin' but heartache
I haven't spent my life
carryin' a hero sign on my chest
and I didn't sell my soul
so I could be like all the rest

I never promised you
that silently I'd walk
and I never promised you
that I would never talk

you knew there'd come a day
when there'd be a price you'd pay
not to the devil himself
but for the sins upon your skin
and I'd just walk away
cause there's nothin' left to say
and you knew there'd come a day

I never made a promise
that I wasn't afraid to break
never believed in a distant dream
that carried nothin' but heartache
I haven't spent my life
carryin' a hero sign on my chest
and I didn't sell my soul
so I could be like all the rest

you thought that I was buried
deep beneath my humble soul
you thought that I was silenced
thought your life was good as gold
you thought I wouldn't make a peep
just like a "little girl" should

but I'm speaking very clear
and you can't help but hear
just like you knew I would
and my tongue it's like a knife
cuttin' pathways through your life
and you've got no place to hide
and no stinkin' alibi

I never made a promise
that I wasn't afraid to break
never believed in a distant dream
that carried nothin' but heartache
I haven't spent my life
carryin' a hero sign on my chest
and I didn't sell my soul
so I could be like all the rest

08-24-2007, 07:42 PM
If you don't want to waste your money on People Magazine just to read the article about Scialfa because the name BRUCE is in it, just click on the link, use a magnifying glass or the one on your mouse and you can read the article in its' entirety, unless, of course, there are some more outdated pictures included in the magazine and not on the link that you want to see.

The article is quite boring. Springsteen and Scialfa are an extraordinary couple. They actually make breakfast for their children. Patti grew up 10 miles from Springsteen, knew him from the Jersey shore music scene and called him when she was in high school to audition. She didn't remember this until her girlfriend reminded her.

So, they've known each other for quite some time.

They sing around the house. They play piano together, but Springsteen knows better than to make suggestions for her music.

They have careers and manage to raise children, too and enough money to hire people to do everything else for them.

Yes, they're superparents.

The article about Springsteen falling for a mysterious redhead was false. People from all over the world were calling Scialfa about it.

I wonder why they didn't sue the writer or at least find out why he would publish such a falsehood. Have his job at least.

You know, Springsteen is going to change the music that's played with his new song, "Radio Nowhere," maybe he should try to change what the media reports, too.

He should use all that power he possess very wisely.

Scialfa needs the help of a village to raise her children.

Her children are musically inclined, but have other interests, as well.

I think that about covers it.

She's a Rock and Roll Mama with long, slinky legs and there is a really "sexy" picture of her laying in their bed holding a guitar which is what she seems to do best with it.

08-24-2007, 08:18 PM
So, you think Scialfa has had work done?

You think she looks TEN TIMES better than in her twenties.

Well, she's not ugly. She's pleasant looking. Not a knock-out.

SO, to say she looks ten times better than in her twenties, I can't imagine what she looked like then.

I'm sure they've both had work done.

Look at Springsteen's hair in the new CD cover and a picture of his receeding hairline from years before.

Particularly the picture that was on the Springsteen.net site for before they replaced it with the new promotional picture.

ANYWHO, who cares, right?

08-24-2007, 08:24 PM
It's my sarcasm.

The picture of her on their bed is only sexy because she's on a bed.

I'm surprised she isn't wearing the same outfit she wore on the cover of her new CD and in the two videos.

Seriously, that was tacky!

There's something about her veiny hands, and, well, quite frankly because she's with Springsteen that just makes both of them gross in my book.

I'm sure you can imagine why!

You know you're never really seeing the true picture no matter who it is.

But, if she hasn't had work done, they certainly did wonders with the camera and lighting!

Too bad they can't do the same for Springsteen.

Scialfa can look pretty dumpy at times.

When she was promoting "23rd Street Lullaby," her clothes were quite dated.

The outifit she wore in her videos and on the cover of her latest CD with the tie is dated, too.

Some people don't have any fashion sense.

Some people just don't care.

They wear what's comfortable.

That's okay.

The attempt at being sexy by exposing some of her breast in "Town Called Heartbreak" video was weird.

She's in her fifties, married, with kids. I think she missed that boat a long time ago.

Who does she think she's going to attract? Middle aged men? Ooh, look a little of her breast is exposed.

They can see much more on MTV if they wanted to. There's sexy, cause you're sexy and then there's trying to be sexy when you're not and it's just plain awkward.

Kind of like if Macy Grey were to try to be sexy.

The move at the end was weird when she sings, "work with me baby."

Like I said, the music industry wants someone with charisma. Someone with stage presence. You don't have to have an excellent voice or be an excellent musician or, for that matter, songwriter. They work with you in the studio to polish it up, write your lyrics and music, too.

But you have to have sex appeal to a certain degree.

She just doesn't have a stage presence, a voice they can work with or sex appeal.

It's kind of pathetic that at this age she keeps tryin'.

All this talk about how she put her career on hold to be a mother is just an excuse.

She has no musical career other than back-up singer and standing on stage with the E Street Band pretending to play the guitar.

She thinks she's something she's not, just as her husband does.

08-24-2007, 09:02 PM
My gawd, the woman, MadMel, is delusional.

Hillary made some kind of blunder during a speech; the second one of late and MadMel says if this is her implosion, it's best WE get it out of the way now.

As if SHE has something do to with it.


08-25-2007, 08:48 AM
If musicians, singers/songwriters OWN their music, lyrics; copyright them, why is it that the same song titles and music can be used by different artists?

08-25-2007, 10:41 AM
Well, their imaginary kitty cat seems to have vanished from their delusional brains, but she's been replaced with "Unholy Bruce," who is answering questions as if he were Springsteen.

Oh, no, Patti shows up and tells him to get off the website, clean up the kitchen and mow the grass cause she's going shopping at Barneys.

They're commenting on the People Magazine issue about Scialfa.

They LOVE the picture of Springsteen and Patti snuggling.

Can you imagine that?

They love it?

Why do they love it?

I have no clue.

Does it do something for them?

Very strange behavior, but then, again, what else would one except from this crowd of social misfits.

The children make comments like, Springsteen and Patti make such a CUTE couple.

Are they in junior high school?

Sounds about right.

Or, I wish I were cuddling with Springsteen and he were making me pancakes.

Don't they want their own husbands to make them pancakes and snuggle with them?

No, they prefer to live in a dreamworld.

I wonder how this infatuation with Springsteen affects their personal lives?

I forgot, they don't have one! They live in Bruceland.

08-25-2007, 01:05 PM
From the "Unholy Bruce" thread:

isthatmebaby says:

must've been great being horny all the time during TOL tour...

isthatmebaby says:

can I get an answer to my question mister UB?

Unholy Bruce says:

Not so much.

You'll remember we played "Adam" a lot on that tour.

There's just something wrong about singing about your father with a stiffy.


Such intelligent conversation!

08-25-2007, 01:17 PM
Ah, excuse me, but Springsteen has participated since day one of his claim to fame in the "filth" that is written in lyrics, his included, and the degradation of women and sex through his immoral songs and now all of a sudden he's going to be cleaning up his own mess with "Radio Nowhere."

He's gonna need a big MOP!

Springsteen has managed to alter your state of consciousness so much so through the use of "black magic" that you don't even see him for the PIG that he is.

He's corrupted your souls.

By the way, besides the BTX community and the freaks who are Springsteen fanatics, no one is paying any attention to THE MAN or his wife!

08-25-2007, 01:21 PM

A 14 year old just made a post at BTX and proclaimed her love for Springsteen.

Isthatmebaby welcomes her and says, "gotta love the guy, don't cha?"

I wonder how long before they have her joining in on the sexual conversation, meeting for pre-parties and attending shows with them?

08-25-2007, 06:49 PM
Unholy Bruce said:

What have I learned about myself? Here's one thing: that a lot of my fans don't want the real me; they want some kind of one-dimensional superhero who'll write songs with a romanticized perspective on life that they should've outgrown a long time ago. They want me to perpetuate the notion that "rock 'n' roll" has some kind of magical, healing powers when, in fact, it is no substitute for getting out there and navigating the real world.


Apparently, Springsteen presents what his fans want and not the real ME.

So, there's a REAL ME inside there somewhere and everything up until now has been a "brilliant disguise" all for his fans.

All this for his fans!!

What a guy!

It has nothing to do with using the tricks of the trade on his fans to get them sucked in and keep them sucked in so that HE can line his pockets and the pocket's of the music mobsters, too.

What a guy!

So considerate and thoughtful toward his fans.

Afterall, they support him.

He writes songs with a romanticized perspective on life that don't allow his fans to grow up, but suggests they should have outgrown them a long time ago.

He's been type-cast as a hero by the "media," has never rejected it; he's referred to as The Boss, has never rejected it, but wonders why his fans want him to play the role of a superhero.

He's not just a HERO now. He's propelled himself to SUPERHERO.

He says that Springsteen's fans should get out and navigate the real world because rock 'n roll doesn't have some magical healing powers.

If his fans navigated the real world, he wouldn't have many fans.

He sucked them in; he uses the tricks of the trade and he places the blame on his fans for not allowing him to be the REAL ME.

Hey, what's holding you back?

So, he's been a fraud making millions for himself and the record industry all of these years because this is what his fans want!

What a guy!

Rock 'n roll doesn't have magical healing powers, he says.

What then is all the preaching about at his shows? Sexual healing, this healing, that healing, wash me in the waters?

He writes romanticized songs?

He writes and sings sexually deviant songs about "little girls," with degrading lyrics towards females.


More like pathetic!

The fans at BTX are being coaxed to put their headsets on and listen to "Radio Nowhere" over and over and over again.

Talk about perpetuating obsessive compulsive disorder!

08-25-2007, 06:53 PM
It's all the fault of his fans for not allowing him to be the REAL ME!

Oh, poor Springsteen.

See how mind controllers/abusers operate?

Always placing the blame on someone else for what they do!

Typical MO!

08-25-2007, 07:08 PM
Aaron Russo
Died August 24, 2007
Bladder Cancer

Early life

Born in Brooklyn and raised on Long Island, producer Aaron Russo began promoting rock and roll shows at local theaters while still a high school student. He then worked for his family's undergarment business, where in 1963 he designed the first ladies' bikini under wear.

Entertainment career

Five years later the twenty-four-year-old entrepreneur opened his own nightclub in Chicago called the Kinetic Playground which became a driving force in the music business, where Aaron helped create the careers of many legendary performers, such as Led Zepplin, whom he brought to America for the first time. He also promoted some of the Sixties' most successful rock acts, including The Who, Janis Joplin, The Gratefeul Dead and Jefferson Airplane.

In 1972, Russo began his seven-year partnership with Bette Midler, who became a superstar during his management of her career. In 1975 he produced the Tony award-winning Clams on the Half-Shell Revue, which starred Bette Midler and Lionel Hampton. At the time it was the most successful ten-week Broadway revue in history, grossing more than $1.8 million. While serving as Midler's manager, Russo created and managed the Manhattan Transfer. Later his roster would include such personalities as David Keith, Frederic Forrest, Susan Sarandon and other notable clients.

When Russo turned to producing feature films, his production of The Rose, introduced Bette Midler to motion picture audiences. Midler received an Academy Award nomination as best actress. "The Rose" is considered by many to be the classic rock 'n' roll film. Russo also produced Trading Places, starring Eddie Murphy and Dan Aykroyd, which has become a Christmas classic, and Teachers, starring Nick Nolte, Morgan Freeman, and Ralph Macchio.

Over the past years, Russo has received numerous awards for his achievements. They include a Grammy, a Tony, an Emmy for producing the best television special of the year "OL' Red Hair is Back," starring Dustin Hoffman and Bette Midler, plus many gold and platinum records. His films have been nominated for six Academy Awards, as well as seven Golden Globes. His films have won three Golden Globes, as well as the Image Award.

Russo's recent documentary America: Freedom to Fascism. He was writing, producing, and directing a new feature film/documentary titled America: Freedom to Fascism billed as an expose' of the Internal Revenue Service.

In 1996 Russo made a political video entitled Aaron Russo's Mad as Hell.

Political career

Russo became involved in politics in the early 1990s when he produced and starred in a video entitled Mad As Hell in which he criticized NAFTA, The War on Drugs, the concept of a National Identity Card, and government regulation of alternative medicine.

Russo ran in the Republican primary for governor of Nevada in 1998, placing second with 26% of the vote. He then endorsed the Democratic candidate, Las Vegas mayor Jan Laverty Jones, who lost to Republican Kenny Guinn. Russo subsequently planned to run for governor in 2002 as an independent or a Libertarian, but he was temporarily sidelined by cancer.

In January 2004, he declared his candidacy for the President of the United States as an independent, then decided to run for the Libertarian Party's nomination. While some considered Russo's style crude and even insulting, others argued his media experience would enable him to pose a serious threat to incumbent President George W. Bush, pulling enough votes from otherwise likely Bush voters to affect the outcome in battleground states, in the same way that Ralph Nader was considered to be in relation to Democrat John Kerry.

At the Libertarian National Convention in May 2004, Russo received 258 votes, as opposed to 256 for Michael Badnarik and 246 for Gary Nolan, a majority being required to receive the presidential nomination. Russo went on to be defeated on the third and final ballot by nominee Badnarik by a vote of 423-344.

On January 14, 2007, Russo announced his full support for U.S. Congressman Ron Paul's 2008 presidential bid. This support includes his America: Freedom to Fascism volunteer network.


Russo died of bladder cancer on August 24, 2007.

08-25-2007, 07:39 PM
I could not for the life of me ascertain why I was receiving DELTA (Kill) commands today.


The constant repetition by the posters at BTX of the line in "Radio Nowhere" song:


"Is anybody alive out there?"

It is a question, no doubt.

Their reference to it as being a call and response line.

What would the response to DELTA programming be?

If you're not alive, you're dead.

No, WE'RE all dead. All alters. All those around me who, "if I tell you, I'll have to kill you, too."

THEY certainly loathe me over there. So, why else would they want me to continue to be able to access the site??

They know what I'm writing here.

WHY else would they continue to allow me to access the site????

08-25-2007, 08:05 PM
Ra-di-o No-where
Is there a-ny body a-live out-there

Jen-ny I got your number

Same beats!

Did Springsteen rip-off Tommy Totone's music from "Jenny, I've Got Your Number" and use it in "Radio Nowhere?"

Is he a RIP-OFF ARTIST in addition to a fairy-tale artist?

He very often uses the song titles from other artists.

What about the music in some of his other songs?

08-25-2007, 08:10 PM
Oh, WOW! Springsteen has reached legendary status in the music industry.

What a hero!

Yeah, he'll go down in history alright, but that ain't all he'll be known for.

Mark my words!!

August 25, 2007

As far as you not wanting to mislead anyone on the BTX boards.

That's a complete and utter lie.

Just like Springsteen's life.

08-25-2007, 08:13 PM
Yeah, they don't mislead, or taunt and tease, but they post a thread like this back in 2006.

Get Ready::::::October 2, 2007, the begining if the end of an era, October 14, 2007, Back where it all began.

The fans are still waiting for the MYSTERY to be revealed and it's August, 2007 almost eight months later.

08-25-2007, 08:16 PM
Oh, look, Unholy Bruce uses Woody Allen to describe what his fans have done to him:

Unholy Bruce said:

Actually, in the context of the film, this joke points up the protagonist's wish to move beyond the less sophisticated fare he'd produced in his younger days and make art that was more three-dimensional (in the face of a fan base that didn't want to let him grow). Sound familiar?


Poor, Springsteen. His fans just won't let him grow.

More like he won't let his fans grow.

08-25-2007, 08:21 PM
Springsteen supposedly peed in his desk at shcool when he was young.

Gee, that's not a sign of a "disturbed" person, is it?

Apparently, he wasn't a very good father according to Unholy Bruce and the necessity for psychiatric sessions.


That's a shock.

I mean, your songs and public persona certainly portray you as a moral human being to all your brainwashed fans.

Songs about oral sex with your wife and paying $250.00 up the ar*e for a prostitute during a threesome.

I never would have guessed your parenting skills were lacking.

Being raised in the "satanic cult," well, I guess that wouldn't have anything to do with it either, eh?

You know, where sexually deviant behavior is the norm.

08-25-2007, 08:26 PM
So a thread was started by Shotgunrider.

His post follows:

Is there anybody alive out there?

isthatmebaby responds:

too many alive out there...


They just LOVE that line, don't they?

"Is there anybody alive out there?"

They just keep repeating it and repeating it and repeating it.

Are they expecting a response, or something?

08-25-2007, 08:28 PM
Paddy (Patriot) is ranting and raving over at BTX's Political forum.

I think he's similar to Springsteen in that he believes anyone gives a damn about what he has to say.

08-25-2007, 08:30 PM
One poster proclaims his divorce and no more relationships unless she is a Springsteen fan.

08-25-2007, 08:39 PM
Does anyone have any IDEA as to why KennyWally is posting testing, 123, test, test?

08-25-2007, 08:40 PM
Anyone have any information on what rumors occurred last year that could be detrimental to Springsteen's career?

Sorry, but I don't follow THE MAN's life.

He's worried about his career?


I think he should be worried about much more than his career at this point.

08-25-2007, 08:43 PM
Scratch that!

08-26-2007, 06:44 AM
One poster says that in the Italian issue of "Vanity Fair," Patti Scialfa says that sex is fundamental between her and Springsteen.

Like we needed to know this.

As if we didn't already.

As if she and Springsteen are the only married couple on the face of the planet who enjoy a sexual relationship.

As if they're the only couple on the face of the planet who have been married for sixteen years.

GOING ON 25 years here.

Thank you!

My goodness.

What superheros they are!

They have all the secrets to success and share them with the rest of the world!

Don't you just love these posters who seem to know everything about Scialfa and Springsteen's personal life?

Another posters says that she admires her as a woman.


Because she's put up with Springsteen for so long?

The poster says Scailfa's had a successful LOVED UP marriage with one of the most biggest (MOST BIGGEST) stars in the world and that most rock wives get burned out and get divorced.

This poster also knows that they have a well adjusted lovely family and, in addition, Scialfa has found time to write and put out three albums, seems to have a lot of fun and looks better than ever in her early fifties.

Very few people can pull off even half that in a lifetme.


Only very few people can pull that off and they're on the list with Scialfa.

The rest of the mothers in the world, well, they do it without hired help and a million dollars, but Scialfa, what obstacles she's had to overcome in order to accomplish this most difficult task.

Scialfa is a superwoman.

She's raised three children with the help of a village and hired help and has even managed to work in between.


How unusual.

This is the same poster who asked if she had work done and now she says Scialfa looks better than ever in her fifties.

Who cares what she looks like?

Why are these people so fixated on Scialfa's looks?

She looks normal, for goodness sakes.

What's to admire about a woman who puts up with someone like Springsteen?

08-26-2007, 07:15 AM
I wonder if Springsteen ripped off the music from any other musician's songs and used it on some of the tracks on his soon to be released CD, "Radio Nowhere."

08-26-2007, 07:18 AM
According to one poster, all of NORWAY worships Springsteen.

Sounds just like the United States, doesn't it?

Yeah, everyone here worships Springsteen.


What's to worship?

08-26-2007, 07:59 AM
Remember when I posted about the 14 year old Bruce fan introducing herself on the site?

Of course, welcomed with open arms at the "Springsteen Institute of Mind Control and Brainwashing."

I think isthatmebaby said she was a few years older.

isthatmebaby is one strange individual!

Remember a few weeks ago when another young Bruce fan introduced himself/herself to the forum?

Movielady said, "we like 'em young."

There's a thread now for the younger Bruce fans.


08-26-2007, 09:12 AM
Such hypocrisy!

In response to Springsteen fans asking Unholy Bruce why he doesn't include the E Street Band member's pictures on the cover of his CD's or the name, he responds by saying, why should he give them any billing when, if they were playing without him, Springsteen's fans wouldn't walk across the street to see them.

Not that I'm defending any of the members of the E Street Band, but Springsteen wouldn't be where he was without them.

It's apparent that most of his fans prefer to see him perform with the E Street Band.

They certainly didn't flock in droves to see his solo act in "Devils and Dust" or The Seeger Sessions Band or "The Ghost of Tom Joad."

I wonder if the E Street Band members would have been successful while Springsteen embarked on a solo career had they employed another rock musician, female or male to be the "front person," instead of being at Springsteen's beck and call.

I wonder if they signed a contractual obligation that disallows them from doing this!

Just illuminates THE MAN's self-possessed nature.

08-26-2007, 09:22 AM
This is strange.

A teacher makes a post at BTX. He used the song Radio Nowhere as a project for his students to come up with a 4 line stanza (verse).

Anyway, I wonder why he didn't do this project with "Red-headed Woman," I'm on the Prowl, Reno or, you know, the other sexually explicit lyrics and deviant sexual behavior Springsteen sings about in so many of his songs.

This posters signs his comment as follows:

Much Love Bruce
Insert male name

You and the boys and girls continue to inspire my students.


The You is Springsteen, but the boy and girls!!!

Very strange!!

08-26-2007, 09:56 AM
Just so you know, according to Steel Mill, just as Bruce Springsteen is totally dedicated to his family, so, too, is Gary Tallent.

These posters know so much about Springsteen's personal life.

Either that, or they make things up to so he sounds like a FAMILY MAN/moral person. The same MO as the media. Building him up to be something he's not.

We already know they play make-believe. Talk to imaginery kitty cats, don't have jobs, pretend they write for magazines, etc., etc.

As in brainwashing and mind control, if you repeat a lie long enough to your victims, they soon begin to believe it.

I believe these posters are practicing "make-believe" when it comes to Springsteen's personal life.

We already know what he's like on stage and off stage. What? That's not him?

That's not the REAL Springsteen?

He's just puttin' on a show for YOU to see!

08-26-2007, 10:00 AM
I have no clue if Unholy Bruce is Springsteen or not.

Well, I have an opinion, but, I could care less.

Anyway, if it is!


Sounds like a real "role model" for a father, but it's already evident in his songs/lyrics and public persona that's he's not a role model father or otherwise.

If it isn't, why has Springsteen allowed Unholy Bruce to impersonate him?

Does he do a good impression?

08-26-2007, 10:14 AM
How can you be blown away by the number of older Springsteen fans on the board?

There a few hundred posters in total.

Doesn't Springsteen have more fans than that?

Did you think his fan base was young?

Who is it nice to see again?

Anyone in particular?

Why are you thrilled that this generation was willing to gamble on a relatively unknown unbelieveable talent that we grew up with?

Did it help you in some way?

What did they gamble?

They threw their lives away!

They grew up with Springsteen?


Down the shore?

They stayed with him for the better part of three decades?

This thrills you?

Are you a part of the Springsteen camp or a "brainwashed" fan who just gets excited for Springsteen when his fans are totally devoted to their BOSS?

I think for the most part, his diehard fans really don't have a choice.

They seem to be under some SPELL that was cast on them long ago.

But, then again, how can you not stay with him this poster asks?

I say, then again, how can YOU!!

For the aforementioned reason, I would say.

How the hell does someone stay with a musician?

Do they post 24/7/365 on his message board; listen to his music non-stop, follow him from show to show, read everything ever written about him, stare at pictures of him all day long.

Oh, yeah, I always worship a musician and pay little or no attention to family.

Isn't that what was occurring when I was "trapped" for a short period on Springsteen's official site?

Yes it was!

Thank GOD that's over!

You say, "Stay on board..."

I jumped that ship a long time ago and have no intention of ever getting back on board!

08-26-2007, 10:22 AM
You all know who Sanctified4one is. She carries the juke box of Bruce shows, videos, vocals on her back.

Anyway, she posted the following:

Tomorrow is my Bruce anniversary.

My first show was 29 years ago... I was just 18.

I've been to a few too many shows to count.
(I probably could count them buy never bothered)

I've partied with the ESB and have even once been on Bruce's guest list!!

Because of my age I got to see Bruce at a rare show in 1978 that never took place.

Ah, sweet memories!!


She's partied with the ESB and has been once on Bruce's guest list.

GEE, I can't imagine why SPRINGSTEEN would put her on his guest list!!

Can't imagine why she has lyric sheets with his signature!

Have no idea what she means by because of my age I got to see Bruce at a rare show in 1978 that never took place.

In 1978 she would have been 17 or 18, right?

So, she saw Bruce but not the show because it never took place!!

I guess that's what she's saying.

How does a casual fan get to party with the ESB and have their name placed on Sprignsteen's guest list?

08-26-2007, 11:50 AM
For those of you who are posting on the "IF I were Patti" thread.

How bizzare!

A thread titled, "If I were Patti"

What's next?

"If I were Springsteen"

Face reality.

Some people like Scialfa's music and most people don't.

Those who like her music are probably Springsteen fans.

Those who know she exists are probably Springsteen fans.

She has a record deal to appease her husband and keep her happy so she can pretend she's a famous musician.

Like one poster said, if she wasn't married to Springsteen, she'd probably be strumming the guitar at family picnics.

Why do you think she had a public affair with Springsteen?

Why do you think Springsteen had a public affair?

Because they're people with morals?

She has no problem with Springsteen's sexual deviance; his sexually explicit songs/lyrics and no problem with exposing her children to this. No problem with her daughter wearing a t-shirt that says, "I'm a Red-headed Woman."

Gee, maybe Scialfa's a gold digger.

Maybe she's a sex slave who can satisfy Springsteen's sex, sex and more sex needs. Afterall, Bono did say Springsteen was spinning during the Tunnel of Love tour.

If she is a sex slave, then her morals as I've described are in the toilet just as Springsteen's are, but her morals are in the toilet either way.

Yes, what role models as parents. What family values this couple espouses. What heros; what saints.

One postser comments that Springsteen has the worst fans of any rock 'n' roll artist in history. He wonders what Springsteen ever did to attract such rude, disgusting, disrespectful people to his music.

You have to wonder this?

Springsteen's just like his fans and his music attracts rude, disgusting disrespectful people because that's what he and his music represent.

Where do you any of you see the word fan site at BTX and where do you see the words SCIALFA or all must praise and worship Springsteen and Scialfa on this site?

The praising is implied when one begins to express an opinion about Springsteen or Scialfa that isn't complimentary and they're attacked.

If you're in the public eye, you're not going to escape criticism and for those who think that it's their job to protect Scialfa and Springsteen (probably on the payroll) from RABID fans, they are the people responsible for creating them.

You reap what you sow!

Scialfa and Springsteen both deserve each other. It's best that they'v stayed with one another; and have not inflicted their immoralities on several different spouses with more children at their feet.

By the way, anyone know what monetary deal was made with Phillips?

Something about payments cease if she is to marry?

What about a "gag order" with those payments.

08-26-2007, 11:56 AM
I highly doubt Springsteen has been "faithful" to Scialfa for 16 years.

He's a sexual deviant.

What's the statistics on men who have an affair while married doing it again?

What's the statistics on a rock 'n' roll star being faithful?

It's all a FRONT!

08-26-2007, 12:05 PM
Salesmen always act like they're giving you something for free without reaping any benefit for themselves.

found this on Greasy Lake...

"There is going to be away for everyone to download this song legitimatly this week by all acounts, sales are not the priority target for a lead single anymore"

"A VG newspaper in Norway has a full page carrying the Magic cover with information about the download."

"The point I am making is similar to Prince who gave away his new CD in the UK, but with a single release Bruce will be giving away copies to anyone who is interested, with Sony's blessing. "

"Tuesday is believed to be the day."


Certainly, this doesn't have anything to do with Springsteen needing publicity to inspire sales for his upcoming CD, does it?

He's just such a gracious person, right?

He wants to GIVE to all the people all of the time, particulary his cult followers.

Or, is it the other way around.

He wants his cult followers to give to him all of the time?

I think the latter.

Oh, my....Tuesday is the day!

Hope everyone won't have a problem sleeping while they await the arrival of the present Santa is delivering to them!

08-26-2007, 12:07 PM
Remember, Springsteen signed a pretty hefty contractural agreement and now this CASH COW has to deliver.

08-26-2007, 03:29 PM
You have over 1800 post's, You post too much.

08-26-2007, 04:08 PM
Isn't this strange.

Anything goes over there at BTX.

Someone posts the following under a name other than Bruce, but signs it Bruce:

-So Bruce says to himself..."

Ya know- I thought the Seeger Sessions was some of my best stuff- creative, funky and loud and different- but I guess the folks in the good ol USA just want rock.

I mean- I sit here at the farm in Rumson, and Landau sends me the gate numbers, and my spies monitoring the internet chat tell me that you guys really only want the ESB.

So OK- as my buddy Ray Davies said- "Give the people what they want"

I hope you guys like THIS stuff- it's what I got on short notice.

And sure- a tour with my best friends in the entire world? Why the heck not. Most of us, except Max, aren't too busy at the moment. We sell out stadiums and arenas all over the USA and make BIG bucks for us all at the same time!

Come and catch us in your town.

All the best,


PS- Timing outta be perfect for us to stump for the Democratic nominee in '08. Maybe we will win Ohio this time! And just for you- I will try to remember the words to Thunder Road if they blow away. Damn- I think that's why Kerry lost.

08-26-2007, 04:37 PM
I really don't know who posted this at BTX, but the Springsteen fanatics, of course, had no use for him:

It's a great piece!

The top 10 reasons why TRASHSTREETS err Backstreets BTX and their members SUCK

I've only listed the most humorous:

Polls - they have a poll about everything from how big the crap was that their dog took, to Polls about polls

BruceSentUS - It's nice to do charity work, but these people are so sick they have to attach themselves to Bruce Springsteen to do it.

The Bruce Bunch Thread - these idiots actually sit in front of a computer and listen EVERY Sunday and comment on the songs the DJ is playing on the radio. They same songs they could play on their CD player any day of the week. "OH MY GOD, he just played Jersey Girl"

Their inability to communicate without the use of smileys. These people must be retards that can't read, because they all use smileys.

Kool Aid - all of the members over there have overdosed on Bruce AID. I love to read how EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM ALWAYS think whatever Bruce has just put out is the GREATEST THING HE'S EVER DONE. It's sickening, they are clueless.

Blinky Lights; I still can't get over those Blinky Lights, what grown adult wears a blinky
light to a concert?

08-26-2007, 06:37 PM
Unholy Bruce said:

As for "waiting for 20 years" for something magnificent, What are "Human Touch", "Real World", "Better Days", "If I Should Fall Behind", "The Big Muddy", "My Beautiful Reward", "Streets of Philadelphia", "Galveston Bay", "Land of Hope & Dreams", "Nothing Man", "Paradise", "Reno", etc., etc.? Chopped liver?


Chopped liver would be my opinion. Other than Springsteen's diehard "brainwashed" fans, I don't think many others outside his followers know the words or the music to the aforementioned songs, other than "Streets of Philadelphia."

Streets of Philadelphia only because it was written for the movie!

Yeah, "The Big Muddy," what a hit.

Yeah, "The Nothing Man," what a hit.

Yeah, etc., etc., etc.

Time for a rude awakening, I suspect.

He considers RENO magnificent.

Oh, yeah, everyone I know mentions how great the song is.

I heard it went number one on the charts!!

08-26-2007, 07:32 PM

A poster at BTX says that:




Stewart FRANCKE. We've all heard of him.

Springsteen approves of him so he must approve of Francke's review of "Radio Nowhere."

Francke wrote a book that has won some independent awards.


So, naturally Francke's review of "Radio Nowhere" is that it is GOING TO SAVE THE WORLD.

I ask YOU!

Where would our world be without Springsteen???

Thank GOD.

Now I can sleep peacefully tonight knowing that Springsteen is going to save us from another terrorist attack; police state and concentration camps.

What a man.

What a myth.

What a legend.

What a hero.

08-26-2007, 07:40 PM
They just love scrambling the brains of Springsteen's fans with the disinformation agents at HIS site.

Oohh, oohh, when are the rehearsal show?

Please, please, tell me cause I really don't want to miss a rehearsal show!!

08-26-2007, 07:52 PM
MadMel doesn't want to talk to a poster whom she feels disrespects women, BUT SHE LOVES SPRINGTEEN, whom also disrespects women.

My goodness!

Unholy Bruce is posting on a public internet forum that Patti Scialfa's pu**y is in lock down and how he'd love to bone Winona Ryder, etc., etc., etc.

I don't need to rehash his lyrics.

Is it the hypocrisy or the hypocrisy?

08-26-2007, 07:58 PM
Leah's favorite day of the year is Springsteen's birthday.

It's the day after her birthday and she usually sobers up enough to have a piece of birthday cake in Springsteen's honor.


This is like Never Land!


Alice in Wonderland


Wizard of Oz!

08-26-2007, 08:42 PM
Scratch that!

08-26-2007, 08:56 PM

No one in my house or a ten mile radius of where I live has any clue that Springsteen is releasing a CD nor have they heard "Radio Nowhere" or care to.

Well, my husband does, only because I told him so.

My children are aware, to a certain degree, about my past and Springsteen's role in it.

As you can imagine, it is a difficult subject to broach with anyone, but because of my children's dedication and love and my husband's complete and total devotion to me, all is well.

It is incredible how these adult fans continue to latch on to the line in "Radio Nowhere," "Is there anybody alive out there," and say it over and over and over again.

Like a bunch of parrots or something.

The excitement in reporting when it's on the radio or when they hear a Springsteen song in a grocery store, is just, well, completely bizarre.

One poster writes that it's like a soap opera on BTX and she doesn't know who is who.

Apparently she doesn't understand it's designed that way.

08-26-2007, 09:03 PM
If my husband ever sat around the house listening to a radio station waiting for a song by a MALE artist to be played (female for that matter, too) and then ran to the computer to report to his internet buddies that he just heard the song on, blah, blah, blah, and drooled over this musician; or spent his days and nights on the website of a famous musician, kissing his ar*se, I would have him psycholgically analyzed ASAP.

Thank goodness my husband is SANE!

08-26-2007, 09:09 PM
2Hearts tells a poster on "The Promised Land" who is not towing the line, that there are teenagers there who are more mature than him/her.

I'm like, what?

The majority of the posters there are adults who are in child-like states.

Including you, 2Hearts!

That's where Springsteen put you. He wants you there for keeps and you all just love it!

Springsteen's puppets on a string!

08-26-2007, 09:18 PM
Unholy Bruce said:

You've named two that I'm sick to death of playing, but - if I had to choose just one - it would be "B to R". I tried retiring that bitch (among many others) in '92, but you guys lost your shit.


Isn't that funny?

How scripted can you get?

Someone asked him what songs he'd rather not play on his next tour.

The song that put him on the map (Born to Run), made him millions, he refers to as a bitch.

Gee, I wonder why.

Did Wendy leave a bad taste on Springsteen's tongue?

08-26-2007, 09:44 PM
So, what does that mean?

Unholy Bruce says Springsteen tried retiring "Born to Run" in '92, but you guys lost your sh*t?

Seems like he lost his sh*t!

08-26-2007, 09:49 PM
There's this thing about Springsteen making pancakes that all the children have latched onto.

As if no one else in the world makes pancakes, except Springsteen.

A poster, probably MALE, actually did think about this, believe it or not, as he/she was driving to the County Fair today, he/she was wondering what Springsteen usually wears around the house, in the morning, when he's making pancakes for the family.


I just noticed this.

Even more frightening.

He/she has inquired of the rest of the posse'.

Any ideas about what Springsteen is wearing when he makes pancakes.

They'll probably have a POLL for this one!

08-27-2007, 09:20 AM
Jackson Browne's Induction into the Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame by Bruce Springsteen:


Jackson Browne

was inducted into the

Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame

March 2004

Bruce Springsteen inducted Jackson Browne into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
Here is the text of his speech.

"I first met Jackson Browne in the early seventies. It was at the Bitter End. I was brought down there by David Blue, a folk singer, after a set I did at Max's Kansas City. On David Blue's word, Jackson was kind enough to let somebody he'd just met get up on stage and play a song during his set. I watched Jackson play. That night he was accompanied by his great sideman, David Lindley. As I listened that night I knew that this guy was simply one of the best. Each song was like a diamond and my first thought was 'damn, he's good.' My second thought was 'I need less words.'

The emotions of all the music was right out there on the sleeve and I've remained a major, major fan since then. I remember watching him that night and he was kind of quintessentially California, right down to, like, the lost surfer haircut; good lookin' guy, great songwriter and we became pretty friendly. So over the next few years, Jackson was gracious enough to let me open up at several of his gigs. Now being a little competitive, the first thing I noticed was Jackson didn't have much of a show. He just stood there in the baggy jeans and the t-shirt, singing his serious songs. That was it. Being a little competitive, I also noticed that Jackson drew and enormous amount of good looking women. Great lookin' women who stood there staring at the stage, entranced. His hair was perfect. And that was something I aspired to myself. Both the hair and the women.

So, tonight this is an unlooked-at part of Jackson's work that I'd like to focus on for a moment. The great songwriting? Alright. I could deal with that. I don't need to stand here tonight and dwell on the obvious. But the gals that came to the show! Ya see, what most people don't realize, and for me this was a big part of Jackson's rock 'n' roll credentials, was that Jackson Browne was a bona fide rock 'n' roll sex star. And my wife says he still is. He tried to hide it but not too much, I guess. Now, being a little competitive, I also noticed that while the E Street Band and I were sweatin' our asses off for hours just to put some fannies in the seats, that obviously due to what must have been some strong homo-erotic undercurrent in our music, we were drawing rooms filled with men. Not that great lookin' men either. Meanwhile, Jackson is drawing more women than an Indigo Girls show.

It's true that Jackson wrote some of the most beautiful breakin' up music, break your heart music of all: Sky Blue and Black, Linda Paloma, In The Shape of a Heart. I think that what drew women to Jackson, besides the obvious, was that they finally felt they were listening to a guy who knew as much about love as they did. And what drew men to Jackson, besidesthe obvious, I guess, was that when they listened to him, they realized they knew more about love than they thought they did.

In seventies, post-Vietnam America, there was no album that captured the fall from Eden, the long, slow after-burn of the sixties; it's heartbreak, it's disappointments, it's spent possibilities better than Jackson's masterpiece, Late For the Sky. It's just a beautiful body of work. It's essential in making sense of the times. Before the Deluge still gives me goosebumps and it raises me to cause. Late For the Sky, when those car doors slam at the end of the record, they still bring tears. And there was no more searching, yearning, loving music made for and about America at the time.

In this and so much of Jackson's writing, the slow meticulous crafting of the songs, the thoughtfulness. Jackson was one of the first songwriters I met who demonstrated the value of thinking hard about what you were saying, your subject. The Pretender, These Days, For Everyman, I'm Alive, Fountain of Sorrow, Running on Empty, For a Dancer, Before the Deluge, now, I know the Eagles got in first, but, let's face it, and I think Don Henley would agree with me, these are the songs they wish they'd written. I wish I'd written them myself, along with Like A Rolling Stone and Satisfaction.

But, uh, Jackson's influence and his voice has always been his own. He's one of the true activist musicians I've ever known. World In Motion, Looking East, Lives In the Balance, he followed his muse wherever it took him. Risked his, and he paid whatever the cost. He's long put his mouth, his money, and his body where his politics are. Lives In The Balance sounds more urgent today than it ever did.

The Beach Boys and Brian Wilson, they gave us California as paradise and Jackson Browne gave us Paradise Lost. Now I always imagine, what if Brian Wilson, long after he'd taken a bite of that orange the serpent offered to him, what if he married that nice girl in Caroline No, I always figured that she was pregnant anyway, and what if he moved into the valley and had two sons? One of them would have looked and sounded just like Jackson Browne. Cain, of course, would have been Jackson's brother in arms, Warren Zevon. We love ya, Warren. But, Jackson to me, Jackson was always the tempered voice of Abel. Toiling in the vineyards, here to bear the earthly burdens, confronting the impossibility of love, here to do his father's work. Jackson's work was really California pop gospel.

Listen to the chord changes of Rock Me On the Water and Before the Deluge, it's gospel through and through. Now I always thought that in our fall from Eden, besides the strains of physicality and the bearing of earthly burdens, our real earthly task was that an unbridgeable gap, or a black hole was opened up in our ability to truly love one another. And so our job here on earth, the way we regain our divinity, our sacredness, and our general good-standing is by reconstructing love and creating love out of the broken pieces that we've been given. That's all we have of human promise. That's the way we prove ourselves in the eyes of God and facilitate our own redemption. Now, to me Jackson Browne's work was always the sound of that reconstruction. So as he writes in The Pretender: We'll put our dark glasses on, and we'll make love until our strength is gone, and when the morning light comes streamin' in, we'll get up and do it again. Amen.

Ladies and gentlemen, please join me in welcoming my very handsome friend, Jackson Browne into the Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame."

08-27-2007, 09:35 AM
Transcript of Springsteen's speech inducting U2 into the Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame:


March 17, 2005
Transcript: Bruce Springsteen Inducts U2 into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
text by Bruce Springsteen

Uno, dos, tres, catorce. That translates as one, two, three, fourteen. That is the correct math for a rock and roll band. For in art and love and rock and roll, the whole had better equal much more than the sum of its parts, or else you're just rubbing two sticks together searching for fire. A great rock band searches for the same kind of combustible force that fueled the expansion of the universe after the big bang. You want the earth to shake and spit fire. You want the sky to split apart and for God to pour out.

It's embarrassing to want so much, and to expect so much from music, except sometimes it happens -- the Sun Sessions, Highway 61, Sgt. Peppers, the Band, Robert Johnson, Exile on Main Street, Born to Run -- whoops, I meant to leave that one out (laughter) -- the Sex Pistols, Aretha Franklin, the Clash, James Brown...the proud and public enemies it takes a nation of millions to hold back. This is music meant to take on not only the powers that be, but on a good day, the universe and God himself -- if he was listening. It's man's accountability, and U2 belongs on this list.

It was the early '80s. I went with Pete Townshend, who always wanted to catch the first whiff of those about to unseat us, to a club in London. There they were: A young Bono -- single-handedly pioneering the Irish mullet; (laughter) the Edge -- what kind of name was that?; Adam and Larry. I was listening to the last band of whom I would be able to name all of its members. They had an exciting show and a big, beautiful sound. They lifted the roof.

We met afterwards and they were nice young men. They were Irish. Irish! Now, this would play an enormous part in their success in the States. For what the English occasionally have the refined sensibilities to overcome, we Irish and Italians have no such problem. We come through the door fists and hearts first. U2, with the dark, chiming sound of heaven at their command -- which, of course, is the sound of unrequited love and longing, their greatest theme -- their search for God intact. This was a band that wanted to lay claim to not only this world but had their eyes on the next one, too.

Now, they're a real band; each member plays a vital part. I believe they actually practice some form of democracy -- toxic poison in a band's head. In Iraq, maybe. In rock, no! Yet they survive. They have harnessed the time bomb that exists in the heart of every great rock and roll band that usually explodes, as we see regularly from this stage. But they seemed to have innately understood the primary rule of rock band job security: "Hey, asshole, the other guy is more important than you think he is!" They are both a step forward and direct descendants of the great bands who believed rock music could shake things up in the world, who dared to have faith in their audience, who believed if they played their best it would bring out the best in you. They believed in pop stardom and the big time. Now this requires foolishness and a calculating mind. It also requires a deeply held faith in the work you're doing and in its powers to transform. U2 hungered for it all, and built a sound, and they wrote the songs that demanded it. They're keepers of some of the most beautiful sonic architecture in rock and roll.

The Edge. The Edge. The Edge. The Edge. (applause) He is a rare and true guitar original and one of the subtlest guitar heroes of all time. He's dedicated to ensemble playing and he subsumes his guitar ego in the group. But do not be fooled. Take Jimi Hendrix, Chuck Berry, Neil Young, Pete Townshend -- guitarists who defined the sound of their band and their times. If you play like them, you sound like them. If you are playing those rhythmic two-note sustained fourths, drenched in echo, you are going to sound like the Edge, my son. Go back to the drawing board and chances are you won't have much luck. There are only a handful of guitar stylists who can create a world with their instruments, and he's one of them. The Edge's guitar playing creates enormous space and vast landscapes. It is a thrilling and a heartbreaking sound that hangs over you like the unsettled sky. In the turf it stakes out, it is inherently spiritual. It is grace and it is a gift.

Now, all of this has to be held down by something. The deep sureness of Adam Clayton's bass and the rhythms of Larry Mullen's elegant drumming hold the band down while propelling it forward. It's in U2's great rhythm section that the band finds its sexuality and its dangerousness. Listen to "Desire," "She Moves in Mysterious Ways," [sic] the pulse of "With or Without You." Together Larry and Adam create the element that suggests the ecstatic possibilities of that other kingdom -- the one below the earth and below the belt -- that no great rock band can lay claim to the title without.

Now Adam always strikes me as the professorial one, the sophisticated member. He creates not only the musical but physical stability on his side of the stage. The tone and depth of his bass playing has allowed the band to move from rock to dance music and beyond. One of the first things I noticed about U2 was that underneath the guitar and the bass, they have these very modern rhythms going on. Rather than a straight 2 and 4, Larry often plays with a lot of syncopation, and that connects the band to modern dance textures. The drums often sounded high and tight and he was swinging down there, and this gave the band a unique profile and allowed their rock textures to soar above on a bed of his rhythm.

Now Larry, of course, besides being an incredible drummer, bears the burden of being the band's requisite "good-looking member," (laughter) something we somehow overlooked in the E Street Band. (laughter) We have to settle for "charismatic." Girls love on Larry Mullen! I have a female assistant that would like to sit on Larry's drum stool. A male one, too. We all have our crosses to bear.

Bono...where do I begin? Jeans designer, soon-to-be World Bank operator, just plain operator, seller of the Brooklyn Bridge -- oh hold up, he played under the Brooklyn Bridge, that's right. Soon-to-be mastermind operator of the Bono burger franchise, where more than one million stories will be told by a crazy Irishman. Now I realize that it's a dirty job and somebody has to do it, but don't quit your day job yet, my friend. You're pretty good at it, and a sound this big needs somebody to ride herd over it.

And ride herd over it he does. His voice, big-hearted and open, thoroughly decent no matter how hard he tries. Now he's a great frontman. Against the odds, he is not your mom's standard skinny, ex-junkie archetype. He has the physique of a rugby player...well, an ex-rugby player. Shaman, shyster, one of the greatest and most endearingly naked messianic complexes in rock and roll. (laughter) God bless you, man! It takes one to know one, of course.

You see, every good Irish and Italian-Irish front man knows that before James Brown there was Jesus. So hold the McDonald arches on the stage set, boys, we are not ironists. We are creations of the heart and of the earth and of the stations of the cross -- there's no getting out of it. He is gifted with an operatic voice and a beautiful falsetto rare among strong rock singers. But most important, his is a voice shot through with self-doubt. That's what makes that big sound work. It is this element of Bono's talent -- along with his beautiful lyric writing -- that gives the often-celestial music of U2 its fragility and its realness. It is the questioning, the constant questioning in Bono's voice, where the band stakes its claim to its humanity and declares its commonality with us.

Now Bono's voice often sounds like it's shouting not over top of the band but from deep within it. "Here we are, Lord, this mess, in your image." He delivers all of this with great drama and an occasional smirk that says, "Kiss me, I'm Irish." He's one of the great front men of the past twenty years. He is also one of the only musicians to devote his personal faith and the ideals of his band into the real world in a way that remains true to rock's earliest implications of freedom and connection and the possibility of something better.

Now the band's beautiful songwriting -- "Pride (In The Name of Love)," "Sunday Bloody Sunday," "I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For," "One," "Where the Streets Have No Name," "Beautiful Day" -- reminds us of the stakes that the band always plays for. It's an incredible songbook. In their music you hear the spirituality as home and as quest. How do you find God unless he's in your heart? In your desire? In your feet? I believe this is a big part of what's kept their band together all of these years.

See, bands get formed by accident, but they don't survive by accident. It takes will, intent, a sense of shared purpose, and a tolerance for your friends' fallibilities...and they of yours. And that only evens the odds. U2 has not only evened the odds but they've beaten them by continuing to do their finest work and remaining at the top of their game and the charts for 25 years. I feel a great affinity for these guys as people as well as musicians.

Well...there I was sitting down on the couch in my pajamas with my eldest son. He was watching TV. I was doing one of my favorite things -- I was tallying up all the money I passed up in endorsements over the years (laughter) and thinking of all the fun I could have had with it. Suddenly I hear "Uno, dos, tres, catorce!" I look up. But instead of the silhouettes of the hippie wannabes bouncing around in the iPod commercial, I see my boys!

Oh, my God! They sold out!

Now...what I know about the iPod is this: It is a device that plays music. Of course their new song sounded great, my guys are doing great, but methinks I hear the footsteps of my old tape operator Jimmy Iovine somewhere. Wily. Smart. Now, personally, I live an insanely expensive lifestyle that my wife barely tolerates. I burn money, and that calls for huge amounts of cash flow. But I also have a ludicrous image of myself that keeps me from truly cashing in. (laughter) You can see my problem. Woe is me.

So the next morning, I call up Jon Landau -- or as I refer to him, "the American Paul McGuinness" -- and I say, "Did you see that iPod thing?" And he says, "Yes." And he says, "And I hear they didn't take any money." And I said, "They didn't take any money?!" And he says, "No." I said, "Smart, wily Irish guys." (laughter) Anybody...anybody...can do an ad and take the money. But to do the ad and not take the money...that's smart. That's wily. I say, "Jon, I want you to call up Bill Gates or whoever is behind this thing and float this: A red, white, and blue iPod signed by Bruce "the Boss" Springsteen. Now remember, no matter how much money he offers, don't take it!" (laughter)

At any rate...at any rate, after that evening, for the next month or so, I hear emanating from my lovely 14-year-old son's room, day after day, down the hall calling out in a voice that has recently dropped very low: Uno, dos, tres, catorce. The correct math for rock and roll. Thank you, boys.


This band...this band has carried their faith in the great inspirational and resurrective power of rock and roll. It never faltered, only a little bit. They believed in themselves, but more importantly, they believed in "you, too." Thank you Bono, the Edge, Adam, and Larry. Please welcome U2 into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

08-27-2007, 01:37 PM



Unholy Bruce said:

You've named two that I'm sick to death of playing, but - if I had to choose just one - it would be "B to R". I tried retiring that bitch (among many others) in '92, but you guys lost your shit.


Do you interpret it the same as I do?

08-27-2007, 01:44 PM
The following is a notice from The Tech Team at BTX.

As all of our members are aware at this time, the Backstreets web and database servers are not running smoothly. We are attempting to fix these problems without taking all of BTX offline because many of you, like us, are anticipating big news shortly.

The reasons for the slowdown are many. Record numbers of people are accessing the site. People who have been previously banned from the site are reregistering with the sole purpose of causing havoc and slowdowns. It appears that some person(s) have put out the call in the hacker communities to flood the site with traffic and user registrations. All of these problems and others are being addressed as you read this.

In order to speed the process, we are asking you, our users, to work with us by cutting down on your postings. All forums except The Promised Land and Loose Ends are being switched to read only until we have fixed everything. You will not be able to post in any of the other forums. We also are going to be locking a few topics on Loose Ends until we have fixes in place. The topics that are going to be locked are ones that span many, many pages. These topics are not being closed down, they are just being locked for as short of time as we can.

We would also like all of you to refrain from posting jokes, multiple topics addressing the same subject and general inanity. We hope to fix everything quickly but need your help to lower the strain on our servers so we can do our work. The alternative is closing down the board in totality and that is something we don’t want to do.


I'm just curious, as usual.

Why would anyone in the hacker community put out the call to flood BTX with user registrations and traffic?

Does Springsteen have that many enemies?