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Draken
04-04-2005, 01:53 PM
Pope John Paul II:
The Judas Iscariot of Our Time

by Michael A. Hoffman II
Copyright 2005 by revisionisthistory.org

The late Pope John Paul II was a crypto-rabbi and his pontificate
represented, for diabolical infiltrators, a supreme coup. He became the
first pope in the history of Christendom to enter an accursed synagogue,
the den of the Talmudic Pharisees. Orthodox Judaism esteems the Talmud
as its supreme guide. The Talmud states that Jesus Christ was a sorcerer
and the son of a whore named Miriam the hairdresser. The Talmud declares
that Jesus Christ is in hell being boiled in hot excrement. The Talmud
gloats over Christ's crucifixion and early death and says He got what He
deserved.

John Paul II was delighted to engender scandal and confusion and enter
the very temple of the Pharisees that espoused these mortal sins of
calumny and blasphemy. He considered it one of the crowning "ecumenical"
achievements of his papacy, along with encouraging the practitioners of
Voodoo in Benin, Africa to remain in their bloody cult of demon worship
and ritual sacrifice, by declaring that Voodoo contains the "Seeds of
the Word"! (Cf. L'Osservatore Romano," 10 February 1993). Thanks to John
Paul's recognition of the "Seeds of the Word" in Voodoo, three years
after his visit, the government of Benin conferred upon Voodoo the
status of "an officially recognized religion." (cf. Associated Press
dispatch, January 11, 1996).

But it was in the matter of Judaism that this Pope earned his immunity
from the media of the West, who might quibble about his refusal to
priest women, but sat in unabashed awe at his unprecedented Talmudic
statements and doctrines. For example, in Vatican City on Halloween,
1997, John Paul II declared:"In the Christian world -- I am not saying
on the part of the Church as such --the wrong and unjust interpretations
of the New Testament relating to the Jewish people and their supposed
guilt [in Christ's death] circulated for too long, engendering
sentiments of hostility toward this people. This contributed to a
lulling of consciences, so that when Europe was engulfed by a wave of
persecutions inspired by a pagan anti-Semitism...the spiritual
resistance of many was not what humanity had a right to expect from the
disciples of Christ."

Could any more fraud be packed into one paragraph than the palimpsest of
Halloween masquerade that the late John Paul II managed in the preceding
statement? There is no ignominy to which this prelate would not stoop in
his obeisance to contemporary Talmudic Pharisees, who are the direct
spiritual heirs of the assassins of Jesus Christ.

"Wrong and unjust interpretations of the New Testament relating to the
Jewish people and their supposed guilt in Christ's death..."

"Supposed" guilt? The Talmud itself, in Sanhedrin 43a, admits that the
Jewish leadership had Christ killed. In fact, Sanhedrin 43a celebrates
Christ's execution!

Historic Catholicism has always believed in the "supposed guilt" of the
Judaic leadership in the killing of the Lord Jesus, and the killing of
the prophets, and that the Jewish leadership were contrary to all men.
That incidentally is not an "interpretation," it's a direct quote from
Sacred Scripture (I Thessalonians 2:14-15), which John Paul II negated
and betrayed.

John Paul II made constant reference to the Nazi "Holocaust." Yet as a
Pole, he knew very well that a disproportionate number of the
perpetrators of an unsung holocaust against Polish Christians had been
Judaic Communists. In post-war Poland that nation was completely
dominated by Judaic communists: the torturer Jacek Rozanski, head of the
Secret Police; the Politboro commander Jacob Berman and commissars Minc,
Specht (Olszewski) and Spychalski. These men murdered or deported to
Kolyma and the other Arctic death camps, tens of thousands of Catholic
Poles.

According to researcher John Sack, "In 1945 many Poles felt (and not
without reason) that Jews ran the Office of State Security...the chief
of the Office was Jacob Berman, a Jew, and all or almost all the
department heads were Jews."

Sack reported that 75% of the officers of the Communist Secret Police in
Silesia were Jews. He noted that many Jews in the Communist terror
apparatus in Poland changed their names to Polish ones like General
Romkowski, Colonel Rozanski, Capt. Studencki and Lt. Jurkowski. (cf.
John Sack, The New Republic, Feb. 14, 1994, p. 6).

In Poland, "...a disproportionate number of Communists were Jews. In
1930, at its peak, 35% of the members of the party were Jewish. In
Communist youth organizations, Jewish membership was even higher, while
Communists of Jewish origin occupied most of the seats on the central
committee. Communism appealed to some Jews because it opposed
anti-Semitism more vigorously than any other Polish party...Jewish
Communists reached their apogee in the years immediately after World War
Two, when the party leadership was totally in the hands of the prewar
Communist leadership that abhorred anti-Semitism." (Sheldon Kirshner,
The Canadian Jewish News, Nov. 5, 1992, p. 16).

The Catholic Primate of Poland at the time, Cardinal Hlond, a brave
prelate in a stalwart tradition of Christian resistance to Judaic
tyranny in Poland, so different from the traitorous philo-Judaism of the
late John Paul II, stated that Polish Catholics felt resentment 'due to
the Jews who today occupy leading positions in Poland's (Communist)
government and endeavor to introduce a governmental structure that the
majority of Poles do not wish to have." (Ibid., Kirshner).

As Piotr S. Wandycz of Yale University observed, "The average Pole could
not but notice in the Stalinist era that the two most powerful men in
the country--Berman and Minc--were both Jewish as was the dreaded
security official Rozanski." (N.Y. Review of Books, Aug. 18, 1983, p.
51).

John Paul II covered all of this up. He was silent in the face of this
holocaust against his own Christian countrymen. His silence was
deafening. He turned what happened to the so-called "Jews" (more
properly, Khazars), during World War Two --both real and imagined-- into
the central ontological event of the 20th century, while helping to
whitewash the Judaic-Communist holocaust against Christians. He even
went so far as to order crosses erected in Auschwitz by Polish Catholics
to be torn down at rabbinic insistence, with some of the Catholics
arrested and jailed for refusing the order.

As the acknowledged representative of Christians in the world, whose
side was this Pope really on? Obviously he was no advocate of Christ or
of the sufferings Christ's followers experienced at the hands of
Communist Khazars.

John Paul II was completely smitten with modernism and the potentates of
toxic modernity, the rabbinic world leadership. He catered to and pimped
for them.

The Pope defended and advanced the Pharisees' cause and falsifies and
betrays the Christian. One must ask at this juncture, was he the Vicar
of Christ or of the Anti-Christ?

On Nov. 2, 1997 the Vatican declared, ``Christians who yield to
anti-Judaism offend God and the church itself.''

Since the Jewish religion is based on the Talmud, which Christ condemned
in its oral form (Mishnah) in Mark 7:1-13 as the "tradition of the
Elders," the Pope's Vatican symposium was declaring that to take a
position of anti-Judaism and oppose the teachings of the Pharisees and
their Talmudic traditions of the Elders--"offends God." But how can such
a position offend Jesus Christ when He advocated it Himself?

Has it ever been more clear that this pope was preaching a false gospel?

John Paul the Judas, herded gullible Catholics into the pen of Pharisaic
annihilation. Do they imagine that the Vatican worships Jesus Christ
when such a doctrine is preached by their leader? Jesus foretold, "In
vain do they worship me" (Matthew 15:9). Jesus called the Jewish
leadership of His day, "the children of hell" (Matthew 23:15).

The rabbinic leadership has not changed in 2,000 years. Those who expose
their evil--then as now--do the very work that Jesus Christ did. In many
cases the anathemas John Paul II hurled at "anti-semites" were in fact
aimed at the person of Jesus Christ Himself.

By upholding the interpretation of the New Testament promulgated by the
modern Scribes and Pharisees, and discarding the traditional Christian
one, John Paul II virtually admitted, by his actions and pronouncements,
that the Pharisees were right to crucify Christ.

It is clear that in actuality, John Paul II was not the "Vicar of Christ
on earth" but a crypto-rabbi. To view a documentary photograph of him in
Warsaw, Poland, taking orders from his authentic earthly boss, see:
http://www.revisionisthistory.org/news.html

On Sunday, March 26, 2000 the Pope prayed at the "Western" or "Wailing
Wall" in Jerusalem, making remarks betraying Christianity and begging
the forgiveness of the heirs of Caiphas.

While in Jerusalem, the Pope bowed to the rabbinic leaders of the modern
Pharisees who are unrepentant concerning the cosmic crime of deicide
which their ideological forefathers perpetrated. They received no
lecture or stern words of any kind from John Paul II about the need to
repent and about the dread judgment they are under.

He mentioned nothing concerning the Israeli holocaust against the
Palestinians, but contented himself with making obeisance to the wicked
rabbis who supply the rationale for Israeli war crimes against
Palestinian civilians by terming the Palestinian people "snakes" and
"Amalek," and confirming the Talmudic injunctions that hold that the
killing of a gentile is not murder, and that the Judaic killer in such a
case is "exempt from punishment" (Sanhedrin 57a).

In Jerusalem, the Pope placed a prayer inside the "wailing-wall." The
text of this prayer reads: "God of our fathers, you chose Abraham and
his descendants to bring your name to the nations. We are deeply
saddened by the behavior of those who in the course of history have
caused these children of yours to suffer. And asking your forgiveness,
we wish to commit ourselves to genuine brotherhood with the people of
the covenant." -- Jerusalem, 26.3.2000. Joannes Paulus II. ( The note,
written in English, was later moved to the Israeli Yad Vashem Holocaust
museum to be preserved).

Not one word about Jesus Christ, His Crucifixion or Resurrection in this
note, just a nonsensical supposition that the Khazar Zionists from
eastern Europe who have scourged the Middle East with blood and fire,
and who have as their supreme holy book not the Bible but the Talmud,
are somehow "the children of Abraham and the people of the covenant." It
is a strange covenant that includes neither Christ nor the Bible.

John Paul II was idolizing a nation of people, putting them on a
pedestal for worship, exactly as the Talmud does. What a sad, sick joke
on Christianity. John Paul II betrayed the Gospel not for 30 pieces of
silver but for media approval and fame. The world loves him.

It is a tragic characteristic of our time that our people are drawn to
love, honor and worship their own executioners. From the hysterical
adulation for Ronald Reagan, who, in 1986, keelhauled the ailing,
87-year-old anti-communist Christian patriot Andrija Artukovic -- on a
hospital gurney no less -- to the waiting arms of Tito's Communist
ghouls in Yugoslavia; to the crypto-rabbi John Paul II, it would appear
that hero worship nowadays has more to do with mind control and
schizophrenia than an authentic admiration for gallant resistance to the
world, the flesh and the devil.

This column is online at:
http://www.revisionisthistory.org/christian1.html

Witches and Rabbis: The Legacy of the Reagan White House
http://www.revisionisthistory.org/cgi-bin/store/agora.cgi?p_id=10004

nohope187
04-04-2005, 02:50 PM
John Paul II, the man that blasphemously called himself "holy father". He sleeps in peace for a season, but the fire awaits him. Many a dry a tear falls for him. One can only wonder what kind of evil man will take his place.:-P

nomad
04-04-2005, 03:26 PM
Does anybody have POSITIVE proof that this Pope

was at one time a saleman for I G Farben as some

sites have claimed ?

truebeliever
04-04-2005, 11:45 PM
I was not mad at all watching the sycophantic press laud this man as 'peacemaker'.

It was so funny, so totally absurd, that between FMB's attempt at explaining away the worship by Masons of Lucifer; and the Pope, i was in fits of laughter all day.

My ribs hurt.

Tim Tams are lovely though. Hot tea is the key.

They're talking up the black Pope here in Oz. I say why not simply make that Belgium peadophile ring organiser the pope. Should make things more efficient in the Church and no need to rely on only alter boys as there are plenty of Eastern block boys to bring over.

I'm not even half grinning as I type.

Mawashi
04-05-2005, 03:46 AM
The whole media circus about the pope's death and the speculation surrounding his successor is a good incentive for me to turn off the telly. While it's sad that someone has died, there are simply too many contradictions about John Paul II for him to be called a great man. He can't have been all evil, but some of the things he has done and said
http://www.infowars.com/articles/nwo/pope_bush_proposed_chaplain_nwo.htm#below

pretty much eliminate any credibility he would otherwise have.

My wife asked me, "If you are a Christian, why aren't you upset that pope has died?"

I just told her I don't think he was what he claimed to be.

truebeliever
04-05-2005, 04:34 AM
Mawashi...what would Jesus do? With all that is wrong with the world, what would Christ have done the last few years let alone the last 28 of this particular Pope.

The list of injustices in this world is endless.

We had one of the most blatent imperialistic invasions in history...live! before our eyes and where was the Pope? Where were ALL the Churches?

A few marches here, a few marches there...a few motherhood statements here...

100, 000 Iraqi's dead and counting...

What would Christ do? Or Mahummed for that matter?

The religious leaders of today ar'nt fit to wipe the toilet bowel of Christs holy toilet.

If Christ was just a teacher...blah blah blah...where are the ones to follow? Where are the holier than thou scum who perport to worship the God/man?

The true followers of Christ have the guts to stand in front of Israeli bulldozers and be mown down. The real hero's get bullets to the head walking Palestinian scholl children to school.

The Pope? I wont mince my words...he is gutless, useless, paedophile scum. May he rot in hell.

Otherwise everyone...have a nice day!

Yeoshua
04-05-2005, 05:58 AM
Truebeliever, you really are narrowminded prejudiced and biggoted aren't you?

Not too good at keeping your cool either.

Chill out man, you'll do yourself to an early grave.

Take up sport or get a girlfriend or something.

truebeliever
04-05-2005, 07:09 AM
Disciple to Christ..."Yo chill out man, they were only do a little biz in the temple...you should ask Mary Magdelene for a freeby".

What logic! You should apply it to Christ.

I should chill out? As long as little children get molested by Catholic priests in their thousands i will never "chill out".

I think you should stay a Mason if you are indeed one. It is definately your calling.

You are a man with a shovel and boy have you dug yourself a pit tonight.

Yeoshua
04-05-2005, 07:29 AM
Ask Mary Magdalene for a freebie?

Bought the lie straight away haven't you?

Mary Magdalene was the Christ's wife, she is the chalice (grail) and the carrier of the blood of the Christ.

She gave him a daughter - Sarah.

I'm sure Jesus the Christ got freebies all the time off her. Most of us with partners tend not to have to pay for it.

truebeliever
04-05-2005, 07:42 AM
Please, dont let us stop you.

It's a long way down eh FMB?...echo, echo, echo...

Heck, your digging so deep i'm actually beginning to think you're Henry Makow pretending to be a Mason to discredit the cult.

Please, keep chatting. Which branch are you? Whats your alleged level? Scottish rite was'nt it?

Keep telling us what you beleive.

Yeoshua
04-05-2005, 08:17 AM
Why am I digging Truebeliever?

Because what I beleive I would be dismissed as a heretic by the Vatican.

The home of the organisation that you claim to abhore because of it's infiltaration by paedophiles and the fact that the Vatican has lied for 2 thousand years to propogate it's disinformation?

The fact that it is one of the richest organisations in the world?

The fact that it dismissed valid iconology as demononology?

The fact that it slaughtered millions, and anyone who wasn't Catholic, was either a witch, heretic, pagan or satanist?

The fact that the Vatican hates Freemasons, so instigated the myth of 'Illuminism"?

The vatican hated men and women too who knew how to make a hot clay and herb poultice for the treatment of broken bones, it burned them as witches......

Hang on, there's a link here: Witchcraft, pagan iconography, Freemasonry - oh yeah, the common denominator is the VATICAN. The Vatican calls it evil, therefore it is? Grow up.....

Spot the difference Vatican 'v' Freemasonry

- An organisation with secrets
- An organisation who lies to its members
- An organisation who has murdered millions
- An organisation with offices all over the globe
_ An organisation that is the richest in the world

Of course you have been lied to, yes WE have been persecuted.....

The pentagram, originally the symbol of the sacred feminie, Venus, Mother Earth - a pagan belief. For tens of thousands of years that belief stood, then comes the Vatican "No, the pentagram is a symbol of Satan".

You cannont just rewrite the rulebook on a whim. There have been secrets kept that the Vatican tried to destroy, secrets about the true nature of Yahweh.

Gone is the age of Pisces (religon) and we are now in the age of Aquarius (brotherhood)....The TRUTH is coming out, and IF Trubeliever, you do hate the lies that have been fed to you by the Vatican, why do you hide behind them whenever you can?

Draken
04-05-2005, 08:34 AM
You put too much significance on people like Laurence Gardner, Baigent, Leigh and other people writing disinfo on this matter.
Blood and bloodlines have no significance in matters of SPIRIT. Who cares if Jesus had a child with whoever, and that child formed the basis of "the royal houses of Europe" or whatever.
It's IRRELEVANT when it comes to SPIRITUAL legacy.

The pentagram has a lot of meanings and to the millions of people who know what evil is that symbol was associated with mass murder and true evil in the form of Communism. It's also a Masonic symbol. Symbols are used all the time by people with no knowledge whatsoever about their meaning.

Nobody really KNOWS the origin of real symbols, Yeoshua. Sorry. But we know what they are and have been used for.

What "rulebook" do you actually referring to and what "rulebook" do you use as reference to symbols and their meanings and uses?

truebeliever
04-05-2005, 08:37 AM
Losing your cool FMB?

Whats wrong?

BTW, whats with the Catholic church and the scum in it?

They are irrelivent to me.

Christ and the N.T have nothing to do with the behaviour of those within the Catholic church.

Why do you connect me with the Catholic church?

They are a secretive and scum ridden organisation, infiltrated by certain organizations...like yours.

You confuse the message with the messenger.

Christ came before the Catholic church and his message will live on long after it's gone.

You are typical of many i meet. Cocky as hell, read a little Jung and claim intellectual superiority.

The age of brotherhood is indeed here.

"I and the other are one".

"What you do unto the least of your bretheren you do unto me".

For every new age wannabe their is an answer from the word of the Christ.

Carl Jung himself, someone i am EXTREMELY well versed in, himself considered Christ his brother. That indeed he drew inspiration from Christ and made every effort to turn a man or woman, devoid of meaning and spirit, back to their original religious upbringing speaks strangely to me as the so called New Age considers him their Father. He abhored Westerners turning to every new fad that came their way.

People like you take a little here and a little their to suit yourself, then sprout what can only be called half informed shit.

You've hung yourself nicely tonight.

You claim after all to be a Christian organization...that image has been now well and truly destroyed according to your own confession.

Thanks mate...have a Tim Tam on me.

Yeoshua
04-05-2005, 08:43 AM
When have I ever mentioned that Freemasonry claims to be a Christian organisation?

Never, it is open to all faiths.

The lodges in Christian countries are Christian, in Israel Jewish, in Moslem countries, Islamic.

Christian organisation? bollocks!

I've never read any Jung either.

Keep your Tim Tam, I don't eat processed food. I'd rather have an organic apple thanks.

Do you watch the Simpsons Truebeliever? I have this image of you in my head that you're like the Comic Book Guy....

Comic Book Guy: Last night's 'Itchy and Scratchy Show' was, without a doubt, the worst episode ever. Rest assured, I was on the internet within minutes, registering my disgust throughout the world.

truebeliever
04-05-2005, 08:48 AM
Perhaps you should head on down to one of Rothschild and Soros's communes?

Maybe dance around the tree worshipping the god of apples? In a loin cloth? Or maybe a nice blood orgy in the forest at the full moon...sounds lovely...

Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice...

Sorry old bean...you stated EMPHATICALLY that the N.T was used in intiiations in Mason oaths.

Now it's time for you to fuck off.

Thanks for the info.

You're sounding alittle rattled...r u o.k?

Lost your intellectual superiority?

I meet a dozen of you every day.

Yeoshua
04-05-2005, 08:56 AM
You meet a lot of people don't you?

You've worked with dozens of people in a vegetitave coma, you've spoken to friends who've work on Montauk or Project Monarch, etc etc etc blah blah blah.

Ever read the play Billy Liar? or seen the Secret Life of Walter Mitty?

OK for the slower learners in the class:

The oaths are taken over "The Volume of Sacred Law"

In Christian countries, that is the Bible, in Jewish countries the Tora, in Islamic countries the Qu'ran.

If you don't get it this time, may I suggest the remedial class?

Mawashi
04-05-2005, 07:44 PM
This argument is just going around in circles :lol:

How about you two taking it out onto the playground to settle it for good. I'll put twenty bucks on TB.

Yeoshua
04-06-2005, 04:10 AM
I'll put $20 on TB too......

There's no way I'll stand a chance against him, I'm only a tiny lad.
I'm only 2 metres (6'8") tall and 127 kg (20st)
Just please don't hit me in the face, I don't want to end up even more ugly than I already am.

get_real
04-06-2005, 07:42 AM
JUST STOP IT YOU GUYS!!! I bet you're both 'hotties', and I don't mean temperament.
But then again, I'm not looking.

Listen UP!! To me, for example, everything has the same core: whether it be a catholic church, freemasonry, the little fundamentalist christian church down the block, the government. It all has the same core. Using different approaches to the NWO. And NWO is what we are all talking about, right???

You take that little church I mentioned. It is no longer preaching a simple, fundamental class in bible study. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
It definitely teaches with alot of hidden messages. I've recently attended a bible study to see what I can see. It sure has changed from the past 20 years or so.

Though TB you say the message of Jesus will live on. I agree somewhat. But, today, those that are teaching the message of JC, the bible and the whole works have a totally different agenda.

And ya know what???? They are ALL in on it!!! Every little church and steeple, open the door and the brainwashed people!!! The Christ they teach about is NOT the Christ you and I learned about!!
Go around and visit some churches, like I do.
You'll be in for a shock of your life. Even little children are being taught to relate to money through their religious/christian teachings. And that this JC is their 'buddy'. Soon they will talk openly about Lucifer, the Christ of the material world. Because ya know what??? That's who (the adults) most of those church going people believe in.

Many people believe there is a 'mix-up' in the bible. Some believe this is intentional.

And the more the people want to know the truth.
They will accept the "truth" if you have the 'know how' to teach/tell them what the "truth" really is.

And the world is waiting for the "truth". And the new teaching is telling them that it ain't JC as they know it.
From one side of their mouths they teach that God is a good God, then from the other side your supposed to pick up on the message that you need to just go along with that, however, God is a bully that you stick up for no matter what.
Grease is the word. Good golly miss molly, they want you to be a buddy to this GOD like he don't care nothin' about no one, just worship him and be on his good side. And most of the population here in Pinellas: KKK's, Baptist, Catholics, other beliefs/denominations, other secret societies are all the same core.

Those of us who were taught that God is a loving, forgiving God are the ones' that they want to stomp out!

Sounds like a plan to desensitive and depopularize the world to me!!

psholtz
04-07-2005, 04:30 PM
nomad wrote:
Does anybody have POSITIVE proof that this Pope

was at one time a saleman for I G Farben as some

sites have claimed ?
nomad -

You're thinking of Pope Pius XII, who had much closer ties to the Nazis than simply working for IG Farben:

http://www.cloakanddagger.ca/media/S_284_S/BALANCED%20VIEW%20OF%20POPES.htm

nomad
04-07-2005, 04:54 PM
thanks Psholtz !

... alot of good info in there

although I don't agree with all.

psholtz
04-07-2005, 06:14 PM
nomad wrote:
thanks Psholtz !

... alot of good info in there

although I don't agree with all.
yeah, I haven't read it all either.. I just saw the reference to Pius working for IG Farben and I thought of this thread! :-)

truebeliever
04-07-2005, 09:44 PM
FMB.

Last post on the subject on this inappropriate thread.

The plebs take an oath on the bible in Christian countries...right?

Now, lets revert back to your acceptence of the 'Luciferian' doctrine as esposed by Pike...

Thank you...that is all.

And yes Get Real...you're right...They are turning Christianity into a network marketing club.

One more thing FMB...mantouk project? What r u talking about. You've mentioned this before in various threads...hav'nt a clue what you're on about.

Just re-read my posts after a couple of days...embarrasing...i suppose Satanic cults attempting to make themselves respectable bring out the beast in me.

Ozziecynic
04-08-2005, 01:54 AM
8-) TB: I think what FMB is to attempting to do is portray himself as a nominal christian while being nothing more than heathen.
Masons are nominal christians well nothing surprising there.
Christianity wouldnt have been infiltrated by Masons if there werernt so many nominal christians around. After all anyone can stand with Bible in their hand and call themselves a christian Big deal!. ;-)

truebeliever
04-08-2005, 03:30 AM
And people wonder why I hate the Catholic Church?

Well I guess birds of a feather must stick together.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-4920561,00.html
----------------------------------------------------
Vatican Gives Cardinal Law Role of Honor


Thursday April 7, 2005 7:16 PM

By RACHEL ZOLL

AP Religion Writer

VATICAN CITY (AP) - Cardinal Bernard Law, who resigned in disgrace as archbishop of Boston over his role in the clergy sex abuse crisis, has been given a role of honor in the mourning for Pope John Paul II.

The Vatican announced Thursday he will lead one of the daily Masses celebrated in the pope's memory during the nine-day period that follows the funeral, called Novemdiales. The service will be held Monday at Rome's St. Mary Major Basilica, where Law was appointed archpriest after leaving Boston.

Some Roman Catholics in his former archdiocese immediately protested.

Suzanne Morse, spokeswoman for Voice of the Faithful, a Massachusetts-based reform group that emerged from the scandal, said Law's visibility since the pope's death has been ``extremely painful'' both for abuse survivors and rank-and-file Catholics.

``It certainly shows and puts a spotlight on the lack of accountability in the Catholic Church, that the most visible bishop in the clergy sexual abuse crisis has been given these honorary opportunities,'' she said.

David Clohessy, national director for the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests, called it ``terribly insensitive.''

``It rubs salt into the already deep wounds of victims and it allows the best-documented complicit bishop to exploit the pope's death for his own selfish purposes,'' Clohessy said.

Law did not respond to a phone message left at the basilica.

Law stepped down as archbishop within months after a judge unsealed court records in January 2002 that showed he had allowed priests with confirmed histories of molesting children to continue working in parishes.

Among the records were letters Law had written to some of the predators expressing support and thanks for their service to the church.

Many Boston Catholics already were upset about the pope's decision to appoint him to the basilica. The post is ceremonial but highly visible; the church is one of four basilicas under direct Vatican jurisdiction.

Chester Gillis, an expert in Catholicism at Georgetown University, said celebrating a Mass during the mourning period is not only an honor, but a position of influence.

In their homilies, cardinals usually indicate what they think are the key issues for the church ahead. Observers scour the speeches for clues to how a cardinal will vote.

``This is an ability to express oneself to one's colleagues all at one time,'' Gillis said.

Washington Cardinal Theodore McCarrick said he did not know why Law was chosen, but said it was likely because the basilica is one of the great churches of Rome.

``It would be a natural selection,'' McCarrick said. ``The choice was certainly not made for any reason except to honor St. Mary Major.''

Asked if it was a Vatican signal that Law should be forgiven, McCarrick said, ``I think we feel we are all Easter people. ... We look at the light rather than the darkness.''

The fourth-largest U.S. diocese has been shaken not only by Law's resignation after 18 years, but also by settlements of more than $85 million with more than 550 victims.

Law's successor, Archbishop Sean O'Malley, has also had to oversee a series of painful parish closures as the archdiocese adjusts to a shortage of priests and drop in collections.

O'Malley, in Rome for the pope's funeral, declined to comment on Law.

``We're here to talk about the pope,'' he said.

In Boston, Ronald Lacey, 35, was among those who said Law's resignation as archbishop was irrelevant to his role in memorializing the pope.

``I think it was right for him to leave the Archdiocese of Boston. But if he grieves the death of the Holy Father, I think that's right, too,'' said Lacey, who was attending midday Mass at a downtown church.

get_real
04-08-2005, 07:15 AM
Montauk Project:

Just type this in and you'll find loads of info.

It is about telepathy, etc.

However, the deeper is mind control. PERIOD!!!

truebeliever
04-08-2005, 07:28 AM
Ah! The Philidelphia experiment!

The Naval Clearence Divers name was Justin Rodgers.

He was recently in the news here in West Oz for leaving a fuel pump on and accidently dumping petrol into the river.

Thats Justin Rodgers.

You doubt many things FMB...I have had the good or bad fortune of meeting some very interesting people.

That you do not meet such people is your problem.

get_real
04-08-2005, 09:20 AM
don't know if someone posted this under another thread, but it adds good info for those interested in knowing about Montauk project, and more...

http://illuminati-news.com/gov-mc.htm

truebeliever
04-08-2005, 09:37 AM
Well you learn something ever day.

Thanx GR.

Hmmm...FMB has a funny way of saying "Philadelphia type experiement", or "RADAR Sheilding Experiemnt".