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Pragnosis
03-14-2007, 12:19 PM
Hello,

I am new to this forum, I am a self-confessed conspiracy addict. Addicted to the compelling excitement from their seductive nature. I do believe in the idea of the New World Order and that we are heading towards a 'Global Union or Global Government'. However, I sometimes wonder whether the famous conspiracy theorists are the real thing.

For instance, if you really think about it. There is a huge market for conspiracy theories, therefore there is a lot of profit to be made. It is a massive growth industry. For people like you and me, it is very entertaining. So is that what it really is? Or are we looking at the real truth?

I'm sure David Icke must be a millionaire by now! I know for a fact that Alex Jones is in it PURELY for the money, he is definitely an astute capitalist, an excellent actor and ultimately, a fake! I've seen clips of him been his REAL self, and then putting that Alex Jones Infowars (as everybody else knows him) act on.

Now, there are many things that point towards the idea that secret societies control the world, there's so much evidence to suggest this, but there's also evidence suggesting the exact opposite, so how can one decide which is the real history. It's up to individual interpretation. We live in a completely insane world and nothing surprises me anymore. I just don't know what to believe!

The Internet is saturated with data that supports both sides of the argument, so it literally is up to the person what they want to believe...

There are a few bizzarre occurences though, such as that John Kerry 666 photo and 9/11 etc.

But anyway, I'd appreciate your thoughts on this.

Thanks.

cold
03-14-2007, 08:45 PM
No, they nor you are real. I am real.

T H E D E V I L

LaDominio
03-15-2007, 08:58 AM
The contorted nature of Humankind is the reason why there are conspiracies. Theories are conceptual. Sure some of them are true, and a lot are bollocks, but none of this matters.


The issue is their contorted nature in the first place.

Shadow
03-15-2007, 09:38 AM
It all depends

Pragnosis
03-15-2007, 11:36 AM
LaDominio,

I agree with you. What is your opinion on Michael Tsarion, part of me thinks he's the real thing, then another part of me thinks he's in it for the money. He could of course be both. His use of the English language is absolute genius, I've never heard of anybody with a vocabulary as good as his.

LaDominio
03-15-2007, 11:06 PM
Pragnosis wrote:
LaDominio,

I agree with you. What is your opinion on Michael Tsarion, part of me thinks he's the real thing, then another part of me thinks he's in it for the money. He could of course be both. His use of the English language is absolute genius, I've never heard of anybody with a vocabulary as good as his.


Well, Western Astrology is incorrect, Numerology is out dated and has been replaced by a new system, and Kabala is, in my view, quite useless.

He makes reference to Aelister Crowley, who was actually a Satanist at one time and did many evil and abhorrent things. He was a truly insane spiritualist. And this is common. I have come across so many spiritualists who don’t get the picture at all, but are so avid about it.
I believe that this Michael is covertly confounded, and his understandings of the true ways, systems, laws etc are meagre.
One cannot learn these things by way of a book or even a teaching. To integrate this one must connect with the source of knowledge itself. Any other way is unnatural... It sounds weird, but it is the only clean, sure way that I know of.

Vocabulary doesn’t make a man smart, but it does make him charming - which might raise suspicion. But I suspect he is of benevolent intent - just misconstrue about the ways in which to express benevolence, although I doubt he detects a lack of understanding. This shows that he doesn’t place it as a highest priority, which is something you'll find with a lot of people. Only those who are truly loving, compassionate, established in virtue and of pure intent understand truth, because their benevolence transcends mere human desire... If you believe it to be most important, you will surly find your way on the right path.

Max
03-21-2007, 11:34 AM
Pragnosis – it’s generally a good idea to support your ascertains as best possible if you expect anyone to give them any weight (back up things like calling people fakes).

Ultimately, you can never definitively know what history was- but in the end, it doesn’t matter. What matters is that, currently, you are a slave (via forced taxation, victimless crime laws and more). It doesn’t matter if there is a conspiracy or not. Focus on achieving your freedom and it won’t matter who meets behind closed doors since they will have no power over you. This is what it is all about.

cold
03-21-2007, 07:36 PM
Truth, Peace, Freedom, Trust, Abundance, Unselfishness, Joy, Humility and Pure Love are not to be found in human nature nor in my nature. This is an abundant fact demonstrated each day the human species is allowed to befoul the Earth.

D E V I L L I V E D

visualvendet
03-21-2007, 10:35 PM
Two very good documentaries.
1. a very good, excellently done film about the election fraud in the States. It deals with issues the suppression of black votes. One extremely key point of this movie is the topic of a non-voting list.http://www.visualvendetta.com/index.php?option=com_mtree&task=viewlink&link_id=164&Itemid=50

2. "The Oil Factor" A film questioning the motives of the US wars in the Middle East and Central Asia where three quarters of the world‚s oil and natural gas is located.
http://www.visualvendetta.com/index.php?option=com_mtree&task=viewlink&link_id=163&Itemid=50
Also a very good movie but I'm not so shocked anymore. It is almost second hand for me now to here this type of stuff. Infact,
WHY THE F#$@ HAVEN'T WE IMPEACHED BUSH YET ISN'T THERE ENOUGH FILMS ARTICLES VOTES PEOPLE THAT HATE THE BASTARD YET????

Max
03-22-2007, 03:01 PM
cold wrote:
Truth, Peace, Freedom, Trust, Abundance, Unselfishness, Joy, Humility and Pure Love are not to be found in human nature nor in my nature. This is an abundant fact demonstrated each day the human species is allowed to befoul the Earth.
I do find these in my nature, even though they aren't perfect I strive for them to be so- I know others who do the same. You are correct that a great many humans do "befoul the Earth" (I like that phrase), it would seem that many people are manipulated by those operating the propaganda machine to work against their best interests. The question is, how can this be changed?

cold
03-22-2007, 09:44 PM
A war was fought to defeat a man who would have changed this human society to something very different. You ask me how this can be changed. It can not be changed. The human is as I have said, not worthy of its station on this sphere that was mine and is still mine to give to whom I choose. When I say that I am the Devil I speak of what I am. Do I sound human? What I use is a tool, but what I say is what I am. The Universe does not look upon humankind with delight, but dread. I advocate the absolute end of that dread.
Watch every day as I draw nearer.

D E V I L

Max
03-22-2007, 11:09 PM
Cold, you say it can not be changed but it can and will be changed- in the end, the Satanic New World Order will be defeated, simple mind tricks to make us feel un-empowered are fruitless to the enlightened. As one who advocates the end of much good and innocent, it could be that the Universe does not look upon yourself with delight, but dread. Many humans do offer "Truth, Peace, Freedom, Trust, Abundance, Unselfishness, Joy, Humility and Pure Love." If the Universe does not look upon that with delight then that is their loss- I wouldn't be interested in any interactions then, just grant me my space on this sphere that was created with the use of energy and matter provided by a great power that is common to us both.

I do watch as you draw nearer and see how you lump together in pain those that befoul the Earth with those who are blessings for an uplifting Universe. Perhaps you wonder how the Satanic New World Order will be defeated, it is simple, Truth, Peace, Freedom, Trust, Abundance, Unselfishness, Joy, Humility and Pure Love.

Shadow
03-23-2007, 09:34 AM
The problem is that many times the conspiracy is simply in the theories.

cold
03-23-2007, 06:10 PM
Very sweet and sensitive and most of all naive. A human is not equipt to understand what or why the Earth is coveted so. It is a truly unique place. Love is at best a personal emotion and at worst nonexistent. The time comes, all you have to do is wait and continue to believe all will work out. We wait on our haunches to spring.

visualvendet
03-23-2007, 11:47 PM
DEAD BODIES FOUND FROM PLANE THAT HIT THE PENTAGON. (scroll video to 5:31 to see) I am no debunker, thats my word! But, this video had me almost believing that 911 wasn't an inside job. It has some pretty strong facts about the whole truth movement.
http://www.visualvendetta.com/index.php?option=com_mtree&task=viewlink&link_id=165&Itemid=50
3 months after watching this video I realized what is even credible about this film? This video does show many of the flaws of the truth movement though. If the truth movement can fill in these holes I think we can finally get a hearing to IMPEACH BUSH at last!!! IF THEY DID FIND THE BODIES TO THIS FLIGHT WHERE ARE THE IMAGES OF THE BODIES TO UNITED 93????

Shadow
03-24-2007, 10:07 AM
The only thing worse than the far right sheep and thugs is those that try to opose them.

It is truth they you must seek, not mindless missinfromation.

Max
03-25-2007, 09:32 AM
cold wrote:
Very sweet and sensitive and most of all naive.
I don't claim to have all the answers- and I do know on a "large scale" consideration I really don't know much, but...

A human is not equipt to understand what or why the Earth is coveted so. It is a truly unique place.
Which of the other creatures that walk the face of the Earth, fly in its skys or swim in its waters understand either? Does this mean we are unworthy of our own planet of birth? Does it mean all the unknowing creatures should all be exterminated? Perhaps you could attempt to explain the reason for the Earths coveted status- what makes it truly unique in your view? Perhaps we can let the judgment of understanding come after the fact.

Love is at best a personal emotion and at worst nonexistent.
Is this your opinion or can you support this assertation with a proof? Not that I am necessarily disagreeing, but even if you are correct- what differences does it make? Can't a personal emotion effect ones outward interaction with the universe? This of course is a foundation for my point.

The time comes, all you have to do is wait and continue to believe all will work out.
Believe? Why should anyone care about belief? What one believes has no bearing on reality.

We wait on our haunches to spring.
For what purpose? To unleash more pain and suffering on the innocent?

cold
03-25-2007, 07:23 PM
We are not you and contrary to popular myth I am no light bringer. Darkness is my realm and upon this Earth of recycled souls there are no innocents. The true innocents do not have to come here. The Earth is valuable because it is a rare door and a central point established out of chaos.

D E V I L

visualvendet
05-01-2007, 07:53 AM
Is it still a conspiracy theory when a national news station in Canada (CBC), also reports on it?
Please see this video.
http://www.visualvendetta.com/index.php?option=com_mtree&task=viewlink&link_id=235&Itemid=50
It is about how the war in Iraq is a scam.

ColdSheenow
05-04-2007, 08:09 PM
cold wrote:
We are not you and contrary to popular myth I am no light bringer. Darkness is my realm and upon this Earth of recycled souls there are no innocents. The true innocents do not have to come here. The Earth is valuable because it is a rare door and a central point established out of chaos.

D E V I L


NWO...


http://infowars.net/articles/may2007/040507EUUS.htm

05-04-2007, 08:24 PM
Don't swallow pride for anger, and don't swallow a mother shallow deception of lethargy and of without resolve, become without terrified notions of what your government is.

Distrust of government builds a better established community.

05-04-2007, 09:10 PM
Give a thought that can build the world again>

05-04-2007, 09:19 PM
We will in inevity agree that we didn't or did have a voice in our transpiring freedom again'st tyranny.
We should always proclaim our loud voice, that can stop their ignorance.><


ALL MANKIND DESERVES AND WILL DEMAND REDRESS !
I'm First, just because?




Quit feeling sleepy.

05-04-2007, 09:46 PM
Without due harm, we must ask who did the most damage of the meaning of freedom in America, to what it has progressed to.
All I can think is, I hope the God we come to apprecitate, respects that some of us will continnualy think against their media army!

Shadow
05-05-2007, 11:56 AM
Okay "Coldsheenow", here is a simple multiple choice quiz for you"

Which of the following are true:

1. You are a nasty little troll
2. You are a piece of shit
3. I own your ass (Think really hard about this one)
4. All of the above