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Max
04-16-2007, 04:56 PM
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/world/gunman-kills-32-at-us-university/2007/04/17/1176696787190.html
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21570743-1702,00.html

Interesting to note the number "33" coming up again (33 dead as of now)- time will tell if the shooter was a mind controlled Freemason assassin...


Of course the MSM propaganda machine is already using this to push for gun control.



http://www2.vcdl.org/webapps/vcdl/vadetail.html?RECID=1702146

As most of you know VCDL has been pushing hard to change Virginia law
to allow college and university students with concealed handgun
permits to be able to carry a gun on campus for self-defense.

Last year Delegate Todd Gilbert put in such a bill for us and so did
Delegate Mark Cole this year.

We could not get the bills out of subcommittee.

We warned the General Assembly that violent crime can, and does,
happen on campuses across the Commonwealth.

But the university and college lobbyists swore that crime was not an
issue and that the schools did not want students and visitors to be
able to defend themselves with a gun or other weapon. They argued
that the schools had little boxes with lights that had a button
someone could press if they needed the police.

The General Assembly turned a deaf ear to allowing college and
university students to be able to protect themselves and here we are
today :-(

While it is NOT illegal for a college or university student with a
CHP to carry in Virginia, they could get expelled (or fired if a
teacher). And that is a severe enough financial penalty that students
don't want to take the chance. Who can blame them?

But, I'll bet a few are reconsidering their position now. Expelled
by 1 or carried by 6?

VCDL will make it a high priority again next year to get a bill
introduced that will let students and faculty carry.

I don't want to hear from universities and colleges any more about
crime not happening on campuses, or the police will save you if there
is a problem, or that we need more gun control on campuses.

ENOUGH OF ELITIST BALONEY FROM COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES!

If just ONE of those victims had been armed, this most probably would
have turned out very differently:

ColdSheenow
04-16-2007, 07:15 PM
Max wrote:
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/world/gunman-kills-32-at-us-university/2007/04/17/1176696787190.html
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21570743-1702,00.html

ColD
Interesting to note the number "33" coming up again (33 dead as of now)- time will tell if the shooter was a mind controlled Freemason assassin...

Cold
Of course the MSM propaganda machine is already using this to push for gun control.
ColD


http://www2.vcdl.org/webapps/vcdl/vadetail.html?RECID=1702146

ColD

As most of you know VCDL has been pushing hard to change Virginia law
to allow college and university students with concealed handgun
permits to be able to carry a gun on campus for self-defense.

Cold

Last year Delegate Todd Gilbert put in such a bill for us and so did
Delegate Mark Cole this year.
ColD
We could not get the bills out of subcommittee.

We warned the General Assembly that violent crime can, and does,
happen on campuses across the Commonwealth.

Cold

But the university and college lobbyists swore that crime was not an
issue and that the schools did not want students and visitors to be
able to defend themselves with a gun or other weapon. They argued
that the schools had little boxes with lights that had a button
someone could press if they needed the police.

CoLd

The General Assembly turned a deaf ear to allowing college and
university students to be able to protect themselves and here we are
today :-(

CoLD

While it is NOT illegal for a college or university student with a
CHP to carry in Virginia, they could get expelled (or fired if a
teacher). And that is a severe enough financial penalty that students
don't want to take the chance. Who can blame them?

ColD

But, I'll bet a few are reconsidering their position now. Expelled
by 1 or carried by 6?

ColD

VCDL will make it a high priority again next year to get a bill
introduced that will let students and faculty carry.

Cold

I don't want to hear from universities and colleges any more about
crime not happening on campuses, or the police will save you if there
is a problem, or that we need more gun control on campuses.

ColD

ENOUGH OF ELITIST BALONEY FROM COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES!

ColD

If just ONE of those victims had been armed, this most probably would
have turned out very differently:

C-O-L-D SHADOW D E A T H


ShaDwiGWoW FAyVr GwuN QuAntRol, DuH CocKSuuckEr!

Shadow
04-16-2007, 10:32 PM
Max wrote:
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/world/gunman-kills-32-at-us-university/2007/04/17/1176696787190.html
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21570743-1702,00.html

Interesting to note the number "33" coming up again (33 dead as of now)- time will tell if the shooter was a mind controlled Freemason assassin...


Of course the MSM propaganda machine is already using this to push for gun control.



http://www2.vcdl.org/webapps/vcdl/vadetail.html?RECID=1702146

As most of you know VCDL has been pushing hard to change Virginia law
to allow college and university students with concealed handgun
permits to be able to carry a gun on campus for self-defense.

Last year Delegate Todd Gilbert put in such a bill for us and so did
Delegate Mark Cole this year.

We could not get the bills out of subcommittee.

We warned the General Assembly that violent crime can, and does,
happen on campuses across the Commonwealth.

But the university and college lobbyists swore that crime was not an
issue and that the schools did not want students and visitors to be
able to defend themselves with a gun or other weapon. They argued
that the schools had little boxes with lights that had a button
someone could press if they needed the police.

The General Assembly turned a deaf ear to allowing college and
university students to be able to protect themselves and here we are
today :-(

While it is NOT illegal for a college or university student with a
CHP to carry in Virginia, they could get expelled (or fired if a
teacher). And that is a severe enough financial penalty that students
don't want to take the chance. Who can blame them?

But, I'll bet a few are reconsidering their position now. Expelled
by 1 or carried by 6?

VCDL will make it a high priority again next year to get a bill
introduced that will let students and faculty carry.

I don't want to hear from universities and colleges any more about
crime not happening on campuses, or the police will save you if there
is a problem, or that we need more gun control on campuses.

ENOUGH OF ELITIST BALONEY FROM COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES!

If just ONE of those victims had been armed, this most probably would
have turned out very differently:

Congrats Max,

You have won the award for having absoulutely NO IDEA OF WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT

This is the worst shooting spree in US history
Thousands of students are mentaly scared for life
And you :-?

ColdSheenow
04-16-2007, 10:54 PM
Shadow wrote:

Max wrote:
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/world/gunman-kills-32-at-us-university/2007/04/17/1176696787190.html
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21570743-1702,00.html

Interesting to note the number "33" coming up again (33 dead as of now)- time will tell if the shooter was a mind controlled Freemason assassin...


Of course the MSM propaganda machine is already using this to push for gun control.



http://www2.vcdl.org/webapps/vcdl/vadetail.html?RECID=1702146

As most of you know VCDL has been pushing hard to change Virginia law
to allow college and university students with concealed handgun
permits to be able to carry a gun on campus for self-defense.

Last year Delegate Todd Gilbert put in such a bill for us and so did
Delegate Mark Cole this year.

We could not get the bills out of subcommittee.

We warned the General Assembly that violent crime can, and does,
happen on campuses across the Commonwealth.

But the university and college lobbyists swore that crime was not an
issue and that the schools did not want students and visitors to be
able to defend themselves with a gun or other weapon. They argued
that the schools had little boxes with lights that had a button
someone could press if they needed the police.

The General Assembly turned a deaf ear to allowing college and
university students to be able to protect themselves and here we are
today :-(

While it is NOT illegal for a college or university student with a
CHP to carry in Virginia, they could get expelled (or fired if a
teacher). And that is a severe enough financial penalty that students
don't want to take the chance. Who can blame them?

But, I'll bet a few are reconsidering their position now. Expelled
by 1 or carried by 6?

VCDL will make it a high priority again next year to get a bill
introduced that will let students and faculty carry.

I don't want to hear from universities and colleges any more about
crime not happening on campuses, or the police will save you if there
is a problem, or that we need more gun control on campuses.

ENOUGH OF ELITIST BALONEY FROM COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES!

If just ONE of those victims had been armed, this most probably would
have turned out very differently:

Congrats Max,

You have won the award for having absoulutely NO IDEA OF WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT

This is the worst shooting spree in US history
Thousands of students are mentaly scared for life
And you :-?


ShadWigWoW PwAnnZZeeE WibERal GwUN KwoNtrOl.

Max
04-17-2007, 01:17 AM
Shadow wrote:
You have won the award for having absoulutely NO IDEA OF WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT
Which of my statements are you referring to? Can you provide a proof for your claim or is this just your opinion?

Seems I'm not alone in wondering on this one, in fact some evidence is starting to roll in...

Virginia School Shooting: Another Government Black-Op?
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2007/160407blackop.htm


This is the worst shooting spree in US history
Yes, the question is- who is responsible? Obviously there has been a claim on the shooters ID but are we to accept everything we're told without questioning it? Was the shooter a mind control slave from Project Monarch? Why did the police do basically nothing for two hours while the shooter was loose? Why were the warnings to the students so late as well?

Thousands of students are mentaly scared for life
Perhaps they should learn how to use a firearm so they can defend themselves and go on with life as normal. What do you suggest?

And you :-?
Meaning?

Shadow
04-17-2007, 10:57 AM
I blame Hollywood for creating a Gun Culture Society.

Furthermore, anyone that knows anything about guns and how to use them would never say any of the shit that Max has sad here.

Max, I can safely say that if you were to ever face a gun pointed at you, you would shit in your pants much faster then you would manage to point the gun, never mind pull the trigger. You would merely be a source for additional ammo.

Max
04-17-2007, 11:34 AM
Shadow wrote:
I blame Hollywood for creating a Gun Culture Society.Can you define what you consider a "Gun Culture Society"? Why do you blame Hollywood? What do you consider the impact on society? I'm interested to hear.

Furthermore, anyone that knows anything about guns and how to use them would never say any of the shit that Max has sad here. Specifically what have I said that you are referring to here? Please support your assertation.

Max, I can safely say that if you were to ever face a gun pointed at you, you would shit in your pants much faster then you would manage to point the gun, never mind pull the trigger. You would merely be a source for additional ammo.This discussion has nothing to do with me and how I have responded or may respond in the future to potential threats- can we please stick with the issues or are you going to continue to toss out personal insults?

Shadow
04-17-2007, 11:50 AM
Max,

For my last comment I do appologize. Previously I thought you were yet another persona of our little idiot friend.

Are you actually advocating that we arm semi-mature 19 year old students? Do you seriously think that would stop as opposed to increase such tragedies?

ColdSheenow
04-17-2007, 04:55 PM
Shadow wrote:
I blame Hollywood for creating a Gun Culture Society.

Furthermore, anyone that knows anything about guns and how to use them would never say any of the shit that Max has sad here.

Max, I can safely say that if you were to ever face a gun pointed at you, you would shit in your pants much faster then you would manage to point the gun, never mind pull the trigger. You would merely be a source for additional ammo.


WhY BwAme U 4 BeeEiEg ShITheAD IdiOT.

ShadWigWoW PwAnnZZeeE WibERal GwUN KwoNtrOl

ColdSheenow
04-17-2007, 05:28 PM
ColdSheenow wrote:

Shadow wrote:
I blame Hollywood for creating a Gun Culture Society.

Furthermore, anyone that knows anything about guns and how to use them would never say any of the shit that Max has sad here.

Max, I can safely say that if you were to ever face a gun pointed at you, you would shit in your pants much faster then you would manage to point the gun, never mind pull the trigger. You would merely be a source for additional ammo.


WhY BwAme U 4 BeeEiEg ShITheAD IdiOT.

ShadWigWoW PwAnnZZeeE WibERal GwUN KwoNtrOl

ShadwiGwoW FwuCken
moRoN

http://www.prisonplanet.com/index.html

Max
04-17-2007, 07:47 PM
Shadow wrote:
For my last comment I do appologize. Previously I thought you were yet another persona of our little idiot friend.
No problem.

Are you actually advocating that we arm semi-mature 19 year old students? Do you seriously think that would stop as opposed to increase such tragedies? Thanks for asking for clarification- obviously I didn't invest much time in my prior post so more is needed.

To answer your question I need to address the bigger picture starting with the fact that I support freedom (as my tag line suggests). For starters, this means that people should not be forced to pay for taxes which then means that those who pay for and run the schools should have the freedom to set the criteria for use of their facilities as they see fit. If they want no guns, then fine. The debate about guns at public universities is a fabricated issue, there should not be public universities (ie: supported by extorting / stealing money from innocent people).

No law can stop such tragedies, either if guns are totally banned or if they are required by law. Guns in the hands of a mature, well adjusted, trained individual can however reduce the number and severity of such instances. I'm not saying that we should arm anyone, but if they want to arm themselves on their own initiative then we should support their rights of defense. If one has the same traits as a police officer then why not support letting them arm themselves to the same level as a police officer? Do you advocate police officers to be armed? Does it matter that police officers can turn bad? How can one defend themselves against a rouge police officer if they can't be equally armed? Should they just accept that they have no hope due to the arbitrary tyranny of others preventing their ability to self defense? I understand these are all difficult issue with no easy answer but there are some basic truths that can be established:

- People are born as sovereign individuals and have just as many rights as others.
- Attempting to limit ones ability to defend themselves on public land is an aggressive act and it can be expected that lethal force can counter-act it.
- If you're a madman armed to the teeth on public land with a history of violence it could be expected for others to take some form of pre-emptive measures.

I say that if we support freedom we will ultimately decrease such tragedies.

Hope this helps.

ColdSheenow
04-17-2007, 09:21 PM
COLD-SHADOW-DEATH-CERTIFICATE

wIt In DwA MaIL.

http://judicial-inc.biz/v.irginia_tech_massacre_occurred.htm

cold
04-17-2007, 09:42 PM
Everything you said about me is true except I am the Devil. I am all you wrote and much more. I eat little children like you. For reference ask Ismail Ax. He is a guest of mine now.

D E V I L I N Y O M A

percyk
04-18-2007, 06:57 AM
well said max

Shadow
04-18-2007, 10:47 AM
Yes percyk, join today and advocate for the means that caused this massacre in the first place.

It is people of your ilk that are the instruments of mankinds destruction.

ColdSheenow
04-19-2007, 11:07 PM
Shadowofdeathwatch wrote:
Yes...

It is people of my ilk that are the instruments of mankinds destruction.

WeeEeEe KnOw DaT ShaDWiGwow, u A HaTEr!

cold
04-20-2007, 10:42 PM
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Hjalmar3
04-21-2007, 03:54 AM
Law of the Old West
A gun for everyone.. the Right to Bear Arms.. yup if everyone had a concealed handgun, that would really deter the "bad guys" .. Mommy's little peacekeeper.. going to school would be like Russian roulette.. you'd nvr know when your time was up.. instead of one "massacre", you could expect several per day i imagine.. when a guy's homicidal and suicidal, i don't think he's going to worry about someone shooting him b4 he can MT his guns.. can u imagine the crossfire that would result from a shootout @ the OK classroom? I don't think you fully thought out the consequences of a room full of armed kids.. even if they practiced with targets, the accuracy of handguns isn't that great.. maybe they should all carry automatic weapons to insure that they hit the whacko @ least once?

Shadow
04-21-2007, 10:16 AM
I don't think you fully thought out the consequences of a room full of armed kids

It is the agenda they want to push, not the consequences.

ColdSheenow
04-21-2007, 03:24 PM
Hjalmar3 wrote:
Law of the Old West
A gun for everyone.. the Right to Bear Arms.. yup if everyone had a concealed handgun, that would really deter the "bad guys" .. Mommy's little peacekeeper.. going to school would be like Russian roulette.. you'd nvr know when your time was up.. instead of one "massacre", you could expect several per day i imagine.. when a guy's homicidal and suicidal, i don't think he's going to worry about someone shooting him b4 he can MT his guns.. can u imagine the crossfire that would result from a shootout @ the OK classroom? I don't think you fully thought out the consequences of a room full of armed kids.. even if they practiced with targets, the accuracy of handguns isn't that great.. maybe they should all carry automatic weapons to insure that they hit the whacko @ least once?


U A IdWiOt WikE ShaDWigWow.

Shadow
04-22-2007, 11:46 AM
ColdSheenow, poster child for birth control.

I would imagine even the die hard conservative ultra republicans would agree on this one.

ColdSheenow
04-22-2007, 07:38 PM
Shadow wrote:
ColdSheenow, poster child for birth control.

I would imagine even the die hard conservative ultra republicans would agree on this one.


u R RonG aS UsEuaL ShadWIg, U dA BaD PerSOn on Kub Kwonspiercy. U EEd to LeEvE NOW! U duH INquisitOR! (rottEN-FilTH.) :-x

Shadow
04-23-2007, 09:45 AM
ColdSheenow: Rotten Filth :idiot: