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Adm
11-28-2004, 07:33 PM
This is an area to talk about the MK Ultra program and the relevant writings of Jon Rappoport, Cathy O'Brien, Brice Taylor and others.

sablefish
12-04-2004, 01:22 PM
The following is an item from Sunnyvale Ca. from the 2000 election.

"SUNNYVALE, CA - Telling reporters and critics to 'stick to the issues that matter', Republican presidential candidate George W. Bush declined to answer questions Monday concerning his alleged involvement in a 1984 Brownsville, TX, mass murder, in which 17 people were ritualistically murdered and skinned.

'I will not stoop to discussing that,' said Bush during a campaign stop at a Bay Area software-packaging plant. 'We've got people across this country without health care, a broken educational system, taxes that are way too high, and all you want to talk about is something THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE HAPPENED 16 years ago? I'm sorry, but I find that offensive.' " (Emphasis added).

Bush, the son of a billioniare, was strangely living in the most impoverished place in America, Brownsville.

Bush was living nearby to and also inside the headquarters of a Satanic Cult of which he was a member."

The very upper reaches of society are Satan worshipers. I suspect they get a hard on while killing people. I don't think Bush has been brainwashed.. I think we have been brainwashed into believing that our society is just, and that "our" leaders are looking out for our national interests.

I suspect that these leaders believe Satan will give them more power and prestige if they initiate greater and greater acts of evil.

The brainwashing of the children of the illuminati shows the untold limits of evil in the upper stratums of "our" societies.

Daniel
12-04-2004, 02:24 PM
Here Here!

I can understand why you've been 86ed. All that truth must be suppressed.

dmt
12-04-2004, 04:45 PM
Click here for an MK ULTRA crash course

http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/ultra.htm

Sincerely

sablefish
12-04-2004, 06:01 PM
"The Muhajadin appear to be the true defenders of freedom against the New World Order"... That's what I always figured.. Because of their resistance towards usury.. God's reason why the enlightenment of Mohammad happened was to stop the approaching Satanic New world Order ( is what I figure).. The reason that the NWO is picking on Islam is because they don't believe in interest on loans.. That reason alone is why the NWO sees Islam as a threat... Because the NWO is run by bankers whose power and privilege is based on loans to governments... The Rothschild bunch and the NWO must get rid of the Islamics as well as the Christians who also don't believe in usury.

Sorry to stray from the subject.. However I don't doubt that the U.S. and the powers that be are totally evil and that total power corrupts everybody who has it.. I'm sorry if I screwed up the quote.

Mind control and sexuall perverions are a part of the upper crust of society that unifies them together and separates them from us... The nomal slave type people...Who think God is love.

They believe God is hate.. and that Satan rules.

Daniel
12-04-2004, 07:55 PM
I believe Islam means the complete submission to the will of Allah. That seems to be self mind control. My God power is my Will power. Follow the 10 commandments, speak only truth (with the exception of Governmental authority!),avoid alcohol and drugs, suppress your sexual deviances, and your mind will be self controlled. With a clean mind, awareness and intuition will grow exponentially.

As far as the NWO goes and Islamists. I question the assertion that Usary is the NWO's biggest fear. I think Oil would have to be a bigger fear. Oil is energy and power. If you control the oil than you control the world. The NWO has merely been printing up American debt and set in place the purchase of oil with dollars only. If the powers that be lose control of the oil and/or fiat money system than the game is up! This loss is inevitable, It's only a matter of time. Bring it on!

sablefish
12-04-2004, 08:18 PM
"I believe Islam means the complete submission to the will of Allah. That seems to be self mind control. My God power is my Will power. Follow the 10 commandments, speak only truth (with the exception of Governmental authority), avoid alcohol and drugs, suppress your sexual deviances, and your mind will be self controlled. With a clean mind, awareness and intuition will grow exponentially."

Daniel.. If you substituted the word Islam for Christianity and used the word God instead of Allah.. You would be describing the Christian message.. I happen to think Christians and the Muslims are talking about the same God/Allah.. The trouble is the NWO is pitting us against each other.. and the Deity of the NWO is Lucifer.

Christians, Muslims, and Judaism have the same Deity.. in my opinion... The problem is that a bunch of Satan worshippers swiped the Jewish religion and have twisted it to equate it with Zionism.. Hence the Jews who are not Jewish are are calling the shots in Israel... And while they kill the Semites ( Palestinians and Arabs) they call those that reject the slaughter anti-Semites.

sablefish
12-04-2004, 08:30 PM
sorry about the double post.. Back to subject..

"About the MK Ultra program and the relevant writings of Jon Rappoport, Cathy O'Brien, Brice Taylor and others."

I have read the reports in savethemales and other websites, and have no doubt about the evil that is in the center of our governments.. The question is how do you fight a conspiracy that is so vast and organized for centuries for the ascendancy of Lucifer...

Answer: prayers are needed from Torah believing Jews, Christians and Muslims.. They battle is spiritual.

BvL
12-05-2004, 06:46 PM
I think the extreme mind control of the CIA is quite well known about but it is only used for high-level purposes if it is done to an individual. Such things as producing an assassin or training someone who will later on find the doors open to them to become an important diplomat and so on. What tends to interest me much more though is the mind control done to us, the population. There is evidence of using microwaves and mobile phone networks to transmit signals that can affect the mind but this is not really an everyday occurrence so far. Certain individuals who are a danger to the state claim they have been targeted, as do the women who protested at greenham common. However there are a lot of other simpler techniques and some date back thousands of years. Some of these are so effective because no one suspects. Here are a few.

Music

This was first discovered by the ancient Chinese in relation to how certain tones can alter the state of consciousness. Rhythm is also important especially the rate of 50- 70 bpm which is the heart rate. Double that rate is also apparently significant as well.
Subliminal messages are encoded into a lot of pop music these days and many techniques can be used to disguise words as sounding like an instrument in the recording using complex audio processing techniques. Back tracking was also used from the 70ís onwards since the unconscious mind is believed to be able to understand something reversed.

Chanting, Marching
As with music a repetitive rate equal to the heart beat and used by all the military.

Yoga, Meditation
Puts the mind into an alpha state so it becomes very suggestible to anything mentioned at the time

Diet
Lack of certain nutrients can have debilitating effects on the mind. Chemical additives are also damaging and/or some have psychoactive properties. A large ingestion of sugar can have a destabilising effect as the blood/sugar level fluctuates.

TV
Creates an alpha state of consciousness thereby preventing the minds ability to be critical and reject illogical or undesirable suggestions. Subliminal effects can be achieved by inserting a few frames of some image, which is not seen consciously. This is supposed to be illegal yet advertisers work on the boundary often.

Computer games
Especially heavy on classical and operant conditioning so that learned responses can be programmed in the scoring such as the winner is the one that shoots the greatest number. Very good at creating impulsive responses.

Alcohol
Similar to alpha state since it impairs the functioning of the prefrontal lobe of the brain, the area used for logical/abstract reasoning and also moral reasoning. Injuries to this area show as a total inability to experience conscience when harming another person.

Neuro linguistic programming
A way of programming the brain using words in certain ways. A very complex science and used by politicians and public speakers as the norm. Tony Blair speeches are full of it.

Fear
One of the most basic motivations of the mind. Sex is the other and these two often are used in conjunction with conditioning.

Dehumanisation
Treating people like animals essentially but the ways are many and varied and modern Art is but one place it occurs. The army also use it in their training.

Psychiatric drugs.
Drugs like Ritalin and Prozac are especially widespread but for clinical cases chemical lobotomies can easily be achieved.

Spiritual
The most powerful out of the lot and can include control via demonic possession, certainly a favourite of the Illuminati.

OK so Iím sure I have left loads out so please feel free to add to the list.

psholtz
12-06-2004, 01:23 PM
sablefish wrote:
sorry about the double post.. Back to subject..

"About the MK Ultra program and the relevant writings of Jon Rappoport, Cathy O'Brien, Brice Taylor and others."

I have read the reports in savethemales and other websites, and have no doubt about the evil that is in the center of our governments.. The question is how do you fight a conspiracy that is so vast and organized for centuries for the ascendancy of Lucifer...

Answer: prayers are needed from Torah believing Jews, Christians and Muslims.. They battle is spiritual.
All governments are evil.. always have been, always will be.. this was, in fact, the wisdom of 1776: since government is always evil, the goal is to keep government as small as possible. Thomas Paine addressed this in Paragraph 1, Sentence 1 of Common Sense.

Government exists in a society in direct proportion to the extent that its members cannot conduct themselves according to their better moral impulses. The less moral a society is, the more government (i.e., evil) you have..

nohope187
12-06-2004, 08:09 PM
Yes, government is the necessary evil to have order out of chaos.

I don't see Amerika repenting of its gross amount of sin anytime soon. Babylon revisited one might think? :-P

madkhao
12-07-2004, 08:03 AM
Isaiah 9:6-7 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

thokhanCep
12-17-2004, 02:52 AM
I just found this site and it would be interesting to compile some data and cross reference the names and effects of the different techniques:
http://www.rhfweb.com/mcproj.html
http://www.rhfweb.com/hweb/shared2/Newrad.html

The following is a list of all the hypothetical
mind control projects that I am aware of:

Radiation, Mind Control, & Surveillance Projects
1.Rumored Mind Control Projects
1.JANUS Project
2.THE MONTAUK PROJECT/The Phoenix
Project/Philedelphia/Rainbow
- a covert government's secret
electromagnetic/radio frequency mind control
project based at a documented subterranean
facility beneath the derelict Montauk Air Force
Station, at the extreme east
end of Long Island's south fork (entitled
Montauk Air Force Station
Mind/consciousness/reality control.
3.MK-ULTRA Project
4.SAGE radar sites -(All SAGE radar dish sites were constructed with at least four levels of underground directly underneath the supporting
tower structure itself.)
SAGE (Semi-Automated Ground Environment)
actually refers to the manner in which radar
and communications information was
automatically routed from all radar sites to a
central Control & Command center

5. Project Woodpecker by the Russians which utilzes scalar electromangetic pulsed gravatic(time-space) Tesla - radar waves.
6. Thor's Eye
7. http://www.globaltwa.com - Global Technology
World Alliance-Australia
Which connects global corporations and governmental military organizations.
9. Secret Societies & Shadow Governments
(Omega,Nazi'sImpenetrableFortress?,Illuminati?)
10. U.S. Projects
Sanguine/Seafares/ELF
Pave/PAWS
US Command, Control, Communication, Intelligence Agency
Technologies used:
1.Active Denial Technology - nonlethal microwave technology system.
2.Weak ELF (Tesla Pyramid Power)
Unclassified Navy DEW
Other DEW
Omega and GWEN radiation towers

11.Earth human forces on the moon.
12. ET's
The moon and hidden moons
Mt. Shiasta (Pledians?)
Austrailia
Various underground bases throughout the world.
Mars and Venus.

2.Radiation Experimentation Projects
HAARP (High Altitude Auroral Research Project)
3.Surveillance Projects
Echelon(UK,Newzealand,Austrailia,US ?,Russia ?,Japan ?)
"It is run by the U.S. National Security
Agency (NSA), and paid for almost entirely by American taxpayers, it is a multinational spying effort that involves the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and, to a lesser degree, Italy and Turkey Listening posts in West Virginia, Colorado and the state of Washington, but that its headquarters in Fort George Meade, Md. There are also Echelon satellites.
Information obtained from Subj: [prj] Echelon: The secret is out.
Date: 4/18/01 3:50:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time
From: msmith01@flash.net (Mark A. Smith)
Sender: owner-prj@mail.msen.com
Reply-to: msmith01@flash.net
To: msmith01@flash.net (Mark Smith)"
Echelon Worldwide spying network is revealed
Echelon Addendum & International Laws
European and Japanese concern over ECHELON

"Tempest - "can secretly read the displays on personal computers, cash registers and automatic teller machines, from as far as a half mile away infromation here an below in quotes obtaine from
Subj: [prj] Echelon: The secret is out.
Date: 4/18/01 3:50:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time
From: msmith01@flash.net (Mark A. Smith)
Sender: owner-prj@mail.msen.com
Reply-to: msmith01@flash.net
To: msmith01@flash.net (Mark Smith)"

"The underlying theory is that electronic circuits create ďcompromising emanations.Ē Not to be confused with interference,
these are subtle but measurable changes in surrounding systemsócomparable to the dip in line voltage that occurs when the light in your refrigerator goes on as you open the door."

"NSA is said to have perfected Tempest to the point at which it can reconstruct the images that appear on a video display or TV screen. We
have posted the declassified NSA report on Tempest at www.popularmechanics.com//popmech/sci/0104STMIBP.html.
Take care when you read it. You never know who might be looking over your shoulder, from a half mile away."

Tempest: The Laws of Canada, England and the United States
http://www.eff.org/pub/Privacy/Security/tempest_legal.draft

4.Countries that may have international mind control projects and directed
energy weapons:

U.S.
Russia
UK
Austrailia
NewZealand
Japan
Argentina

Here's some google search results and links:
1. and 2.Janus mind control project and Montauk Project seem to be the same:
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/montauk.htm
Janus Von Neumann was once more made senior scientific director as the Phoenix Project avenues of research were taken to extraordinary new heights. This, the so-called "Montauk Project" specifically, dealt for the most part with psychotronic and interdimensional areas of experimentation. Electromagnetic mind control experiments using high-powered radio frequency transmissions were conducted

3.Declassified MK-Ultra Project Documents:
http://www.michael-robinett.com/declass/c000.htm

4.SAGE seems to be tied in with Montauk

5. Project woodPecker from Russia
HAARP Project
Nikola Tesla Technology
HAARP, Weather War, And EMF Mind Control
"Co-author Jean Manning, in conversation with a ham operator, learned that as early as 1975-76 the Soviet Union was beaming radio-frequency signals toward North America. Ham operators were picking up the 10-hertz (pulses per second) frequencies which they called Woodpecker signals because of the tapping they heard from extremely low frequency (ELF) waves. It was speculated that his ELF frequency could resonate the neurons in the human brain over great distance, resulting in mood changes in a large part of the population.

These ELF waves could cause communication interference, power failures, and weather modification designed to have a devastating effect on food production."

6. Thor's Eye
http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/haarp.htm

awake
12-17-2004, 11:28 AM
as an individual who was unsuccessfully handled by "the Boys", i still suffer post trauma episodes. they keep tabs on me as well. remember, you will attract persons, places and things according to you level of being. there is a war in heaven, a war for the souls of men. mind control efforts have come a long way in the last 40 years, but it's still just a dirty little game being played by some very sad, dare i say fucked up, people. pray for them. awake

madkhao
12-17-2004, 04:13 PM
About the mind control chip implant

the person who wrote this seems really paranoid

but I give him/her the benefit of the doubt

because we must all seem paranoid one way or

another to the sheeple and to each other.

for a picture of the gun itself go to the

homepage

http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/sherry/chips.htm

Born_To_Die
12-17-2004, 04:22 PM
a friend told me he read where they can already

put in RFID type technology in vaccines and

then using GSP satellite track you down

and depending on the vaccine can actually

stiffen if you will some residue of the vaccine

to give one a heart attack and make it appear as

such.

Anybody else know the details to this ?

marypopinz
12-17-2004, 06:30 PM
The shit has to come out some time.

I met X and the Nova Scotia government gave X a "vaccine" that made her very ill... twice

Doctors concur that some one was trying to bump X off - lab tests prove. RCMP scared to investigate... they have family. They go after your kids here, that's what they do. It's sick!

Person who dared question authority, dropped dead at the fridge for no apparent reason. It's all very screwy as this is the sleepy little town where the big boys play. They sell islands and such things, everywhere. Nurses up here say something has got to be done about that Bridgewater hospital.

Others have spoken to X regarding this exact samething. X not the only one. Apparently, they are "poisoning" people in Bridgewater, who know too much about the coke, the money, the laundering, the mafia, or the government, or their friends.

yah, yah, yah, it's pretty ugly
patriot act 11
no whistleblowers...we can vaccinate = exterminate

Bill 109 hangs over spring legislature, CMA canadian mental health seriously questions. Govenrment doc picks you out, locks you up, drugs you out, before a judge incompetent. BYEEEE!!!!!

Things are pretty ludicrous here in Neo Nazi Scotia.



peace XXX

nohope187
12-17-2004, 07:54 PM
Hey Born to die, yer talkin' 'bout nano-technology dude. :-P

madkhao
12-18-2004, 05:06 PM
The Following was taken from
The Illuminati Formula Used to Create an Undetectable Total Mind Controlled Slave by Fritz Springmeier & Cisco Wheeler

Foundation Step 1.

Preparation of the Children by Spiritual Preparations & In Utero Traumatization--The Moon Children

The preparation for someone to be programmed also concerns the ability of a person to be demonized. Generational satanic families are sold out to Satan, and their children belong to Satan in a way that non-generational children do not. Because of the generational curses, because of the genetic bent toward the occult, because of the generational demonic forces, the Illuminati children are very good candidates for Monarch programming. Part of the programming includes the layering in of demonic forces, and the participation in blood rituals in order to draw in the most powerful of demons. An indepth review about this important but controversial subject is in chapter 10.

The Moonchild rituals are the rituals to demonize a fetus. However, the demons that are invoked are not the small ones but very powerful ones. In working with victims of this programming, it is clear that high level demons were placed within these people at very early ages, many of them it is believed were demonized before they were born by rituals like the Moonchild rituals. Blood sacrifices and human sacrifices are always required for this level of magic.

Aleister Crowley (1875-1947) was a Satanist who was a 33rd degree Scottish Rite Freemason. He also was a leader in a number of other Masonic rites as well as an OTO leader, a chief in Stella Matutina, and a MI-6 (Br. overseas intelligence) agent. His writings have been important within 20th century Satanism and with black magicians. He wrote Moonchild which was first published in 1917. The idea of the Moonchild is that via black magic a perfect soul can be captured. The belief in reincarnation, which is prevalent among the Illuminati and Satanic groups, lends itself to the belief that souls compete for a particular embryo. On page 107- 108 of Moonchild the idea is expressed, "To produce a man who should not be bound up in his heredity, and should have the environment which they desired for him." This perfect soul in a proper person is called Homunculus. The magical work upon which this is based is said to be derived from Bacon, Albertus Magnus and Paracelsus who were all reported in occult circles to have captured souls and placed them into brass statues. The Hittites, the people of Asia Minor and Syria have long sought the ability to create a superman and a superwoman.

The Illuminatiís inside occult history places the Hittites in their ancestry. Clear back in 1917, long before superman appeared in comics and movies, Aleister Crowley was writing about a Superman. The magical idea is to capture a soul from the 4th dimension. In the book Moonchild, the villa used to produce a Moonchild was called "The Butter-fly-Net". The Monarch Project then which is named after the Monarch butterfly is also an allusion to the Moonchild project where Butterflies are an allusion to souls (what Christians call demonic spirits).

The actual rituals carried out to create a Moonchild are described in detail in three of Crowley ís writings. A vague description of the rituals can be seen by reading the book Moonchild. The ritual took place at a villa nicknamed The Butterfly Net. The villa was really an occult temple laid out in sacred geometrics. It had figures of satyrs, fauns, and nymphs. It had statues of Artemis. Lots of silver objects and crescents and 9-pointed stars were at the villa, because these objects all relate to the Moon in magic.

The woman who was pregnant was surrounded by objects related to the moon. The moonís influence was repeatedly invoked. A small triangular silver altar to Artemis was used. There was a sacred spring where the woman was washed. The number 9 which is sacred to the moon was used along with its square 81. Prayers were made to Artemis, and there was the reenactment of the capture of Diana by Pan. The woman was coached to identify herself with what is known as Grandmother Moon (in the book she simply is called the Moon or Diana) by identifying her thoughts and actions with the deities one is wanting to invoke.

The creation of the Moonchildren within the Monarch Project involves high level magic by the circle of Illuminati black magicians involved with a particular individualís programming. It should be noted that Grande Master and Grande Dame alters will understand demonology, but the sections (levels) of alter above them, are not informed.

One of the biggest secrets kept from most of the slaveís alters is that their System was demonized while a fetus. First, this would give religious front alters the information they need to get them on the right track towards healing, and it could also adversely affect the programming lies of some of the front alters who donít realize how premeditated all the trauma and torture is. The front alters of victims themselves remember the cover story that the moon children were produced via torture in the cages as little children.

The Illuminati have also planned that every one of the ten commandments of God will be violated in their favor with the child. They prefer the child to be born out of wedlock so that it is a bastard. This breaks Godís commandment on adultery, and also gives them more leverage to destroy the childís self-esteem. This entire plan involves generational curses which are spoken and unspoken.

During Illuminati ceremonies, Ceremonial pacts which concern having the child out of wedlock to mock God are made. While the Illuminati destroy any godly spiritual foundation, they are creating a solid rock hard foundation of "love" (adoration or idolatry) within the new born upon which they will build the programming. The second commandment is "Do not take the Lordís name in vain". In the Black Mass, the names of God are invoked to get spirits with blasphemous names such as Yahweh Elohim. Most parts of the little child will never even hear the Lordís name--he will only hear the name of his master, who will someday be presented to him as "God". The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world. The child is being bonded to his future programmers.

Much later, great attention will be given to set up staged events to insure that the victim being programmed hates God.

In Utero Traumatization

The formal Monarch Mind-Control project was developed from observations of high level Satanic families. These families had no qualms about the concept of traumatizing the fetus. Italian generational witchcraft is called the Ways of the Strega. These generational occult bloodlines, esp. in Tuscany and Naples , are very much into generational ancestor spirits. These were the ones that Aleister Crowley went to learn how to create Moon Children.

Remember, that Italian and German generational Illuminati families were studied by the Italian fascists and the German Nazis to develop a scientific understanding of mind control. The Illuminati families in Germany were secretly and scientifically studied in the 1920s to determine what exactly was happening and how to systematically improve the Illuminatiís control over the people they were already programming.

Discipline and training has been lavished for centuries upon the children of these elite bloodlines. The contribution of the 20th century was the systematic collection and scientific study of all the various methodologies into one cohesive programming package. This research was begun on a large scale in 1940s, and has been systematically added to since then. Families who wanted dissociative children learned that dissociative babies could be born if the child in the womb is tortured. Thin needles are inserted through the mother into the fetus to prick the preborn child. Mothers, who are pregnant with children to be programmed, are also severely traumatized during their pregnancy with a whole assortment of traumas, which simultaneously traumatizes the babies which they carry. For instance, the father may purposely abandon the pregnant mother in the middle of a forest, or blast the mother with loud frightening music, and then follow this up with love.




Okay, I didn't realized just how long this was and was going to cut and paste steps 2,3 and 4 but I will just provide the link so everyone can read for themselves.

http://www.whale.to/b/sp/for1.html#Foundation%20Step%202.

awake
12-18-2004, 07:15 PM
Consider this...once the fabric of time is violated, it has always been violated. Once time travel happens, it has always happened. Trans-dimensional shifting and mind control, as you call it, is a cumulative, non-linear progression.We are all connected by a filament web that goes from heart to heart. When the heart(higher emotional center) awakens, we begin to be aware of subtle energetic realities. If one is captured in the initial phase of awakening,one can be isolated and enslaved,ie cult indoctrination and the God given capacity to choose is abducted. Remember, freedom is not control of your circumstances, rather it is a broad range of choice.The Illuminati is not perfect by any means and depends for it's power upon the energy manipulation of fearful people. The Families are not lineages of genetic integrity, they are far more extended than you might imagine. It would be indiscretion, and dangerous on my part to go too deeply into this in any other context than face to face communication in a secure environment. The Boys make mistakes from time to time. I am one of them; a slave project gone feral. There are a few of us around...Cathy O'Brian is a rescue, different breed of cat...God bless her and protect her, she is in our prayers. Please understand and remember always and everywhere, you attract persons,places and things according to your level of being. You are far more intellegent than you realize, in general and more powerful.The great battle is in the offing, very soon now. Educate yourself not from any external source, everything is suspect, the enemy is incredibly subtle.Still the flow of associative thought, clear a space of quiet within and listen. The information you need to survive and triumph is being transmitted 24&7. May God keep you from harm. Remember Him in every moment as you remember who you are, where you came from and where you are going...love,awake

marypopinz
12-18-2004, 07:41 PM
Awake...God Bless you and give you his strength.

Still the flow of associative thought... please explain more.

mary XXX

awake
12-18-2004, 08:00 PM
The human is conditioned to respond in a circular associative process, rather like a hamster wheel in the mind. A vast,unused area is the result. Integration is impossible under these conditions and by this I mean the balancing of, and right working of centers mental, emotional and instincive- moving. As long as the hamster wheel is sqeaking, it drowns out the communication from higher scource. This is the aim of media generated consensus state. It is one thing to become aware of the lie being perpetrated and the agenda behind the lie and fully another to overcome the terror and panic that ensues from such a realization. One becomes identified with the fear and in order to cope generates a depressive state like our friend no hope. To still and silence the hamster wheel of associative thinking and the resultant reactive behaviors is to begin the process of inner unfolding and education, a step toward reclaiming power and freedom. Thank you for your kind wishes and blessings, I do feel them...an open heart. awake

marypopinz
12-19-2004, 08:17 AM
AWAKE, YOU ARE AN ANGEL!

To be individual is to free yourself from associative thought, n'est-ce pas? This is what I think, this is what I feel, this is how I act and this is who I am. I am free to be me! What an amazing feeling. Yipppeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!

Being sensitive, as people, especially children are - they are very open to suggestion. People poo-poo the occult. They should be aware and have a healthy aversion to such things. Fear should not come into play. It's their fear that they want you to feel... I can sense it and that doesn't mean I have to accept it as a feeling of my own. No thank you. Don't like that one no matter how you sugar coat sabrina, the teenage witch.

The Psychic attack I went under in England was really really bad. I'm still here and I'm still lovin' life and my kids and my friends and God.

The secret to my success and happiness and individuality is I know my thoughts and feelings, I can sense others, and I can distinguish the difference. How is that for a gift from God? Thank you. I believe all humans are built this way.

The occult will try and tempt the follower with these powers... they are real. I have seen dude make chick pick up a knife and slit her wrists, with his mind. It's fucked up, that's for sure. And it all depends if the innocent places his faith in those powers... whether his mind is susceptible.

People have to seriously clue up and start identifying with themselves. Take a good long look in the mirror and ask yourself, what do I believe? What do I know? Who am I? Do I like this person? How do I act? Ask friends and family how they truly percieve you.

Question, am I this person, all the time? Do I like my friends? Yada, yada, yada and what am I going to do if the answer is no?

My life is my responsibility. It is no one's responsibility, but my own. I act of my own accord, I don't march to another's tune unless I like that tune and it is in tune with my music. Make sense?

If you live in fear, they have an open door to your mind. I live in peace. They can't break that wall down, in my mind. This is what I teach my kids. Question yourself and know your own mind. Be happy to be the person you want to be and act accordingly. We live in a world called hope. It's a great place to be.

I did better than survive, I found my happiness and my hope. God is with me and my kids. I have been blessed and I'm grateful. I'll say thank you till eternity.

Peace XXX

thokhanCep
12-21-2004, 08:56 PM
I recently had this strange occurence. I was probably on my way to sleeping, thinking some kind of deep thought. I think it was along the lines of geopolitics and where the world was going. That's all I remember though.......
I recall getting answers to questions running through my head. It seemed as though I had a revelation. I was one step away to "knowing" something and that's when this pin prick of light
got larger and than covered the inside of my closed eyes , it was an image of a face. It wasn't evil or nice looking. It just appeared and
I was shocked back into being wide awake??

I than thought about the CIA
( NAZI 3rd , 4th and 5th reich's??) ,remote viewing and psychic spying techniques.
Now this is off the wall maybe there are studies done about this BUT wouldn't this CIA tool give the NWO crowd a leg up on any PRO-freedom group?
They could have a remote viewing session for the most influencial anti-nwo movement and try to stop it before it gains too much steam.
I think Gary Webb was on to more names being exposed. God bless his soul.

I am not 100% on this subject but it could explain some of my own experiences.

"Marrs's research has made him very unpopular with the US establishment, and, on some occasions, steps have been taken to suppress his revelations. In 1995, "The Enigma Files", Marrs's expos of the covert use of remote viewing and psychic spying techniques, was mysteriously prevented from publication.

Marrs was informed that the decision had been taken at the suggestion of a lawyer. Not only was Marrs not allowed to speak to the lawyer responsible, but the publisher told him that nothing could be done as the injunction had been ordered from a higher corporate level."
http://www.rense.com/general/enchilada.htm