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Kregener
06-19-2007, 04:20 PM
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BlueAngel
06-19-2007, 07:33 PM
Interesting!

Kregener
06-20-2007, 12:11 PM
Fun with Photo Shop!

ripvanwinkle
07-01-2007, 10:05 PM
well, maybe not, but what a genius way to hide a bad conspiracy; inside a benevolent organization of good men. are the higher ranks evil? not the 32 degree masons i know. maybe some other secret level, but all told, i agree that blaming an organization with secrets is a good one. fwiw, i agree the masons are not evil conspirators.

Morty
02-13-2008, 09:35 PM
The worst some of them have ever done, human and all, is that they have spun webs.

Delta
02-13-2008, 10:08 PM
Nuts always need a target to focus their fear on.

The masons, with their secret rituals, are an easy target for the intellectualy challenged.

lost in space
06-13-2008, 11:37 PM
i herd ....13 steps after 33 i think that cypher is in thetribune bldg dwntwn chi

lost in space
06-13-2008, 11:39 PM
noth ing good is ever veiled in secret!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Light
07-07-2008, 08:57 AM
Were you ever initiated into a sorority or a fraternity in college? There's a lot of "secret rituals" involved there.

What's really funny to me is that SOME people believe everything they read without even identifying the source's credibility.

I suppose if you read it on the internet, then it must be true.

Thank you Al Gore for providing this wealth of information to us by creating the internet.

:D

1949
04-16-2009, 10:18 PM
And I Am The Queenie Of England>>>right!!!!!

iLLMATiK
04-17-2009, 01:44 PM
wtf? Seems there are a bunch of retards and liars on this website. I recommend you all to take a bullet to the head.

KSigMason
04-21-2009, 12:27 AM
wtf? Seems there are a bunch of retards and liars on this website. I recommend you all to take a bullet to the head.
Lead the way.

Mintwithahole.
09-24-2009, 10:46 AM
Lead the way.

There Is No Masonic Conspiracy. . .
Are you kidding me?
Then a mason asks an antimason to shoot himself.. . You couldn't make it up!!!
I's expect this kind of response from a mason on ATS because it is a masonic propaganda site but not on here. Shame on you. Do us all a favour and go bury your head.

KSigMason
09-24-2009, 02:10 PM
He said we should all shoot ourselves so I told him to lead the way. Where is your condemnation of him?

Mintwithahole.
09-24-2009, 07:48 PM
He said we should all shoot ourselves so I told him to lead the way. Where is your condemnation of him?
I don't have to condemn him. This thread is about a masonic conspiracy and as far as I'm concerned it's case proven. Like I said before, you masons may feel complacent and protected on forums such as ATS but here you're just another poster. You want to make the claim that there is no masonic conspiracy fine, all I ask is that you prove it. The reality of this situation is you can't. . . Honestly, if I'm wrong prove it!

KSigMason
09-24-2009, 08:20 PM
I don't have to condemn him.
You don't have to condemn him? If you condemn mine then you would have to condemn his or you would be a hypocrite. Let's break the situation down:

He said:

wtf? Seems there are a bunch of retards and liars on this website. I recommend you all to take a bullet to the head.
I said:

Lead the way.
So you said:

Then a mason asks an antimason to shoot himself.. . You couldn't make it up!!!
So I didn't tell/ask him to do anything. He opened that dialogue up so I invited him to lead by example. I answered his rudeness by a smart ass quip.

Do us all a favour and go bury your head.
So you misread my quote and I'm a bad guy, but you tell me to bury my head and it's all good? Wow, sounds like a double standard.

This thread is about a masonic conspiracy and as far as I'm concerned it's case proven. Like I said before, you masons may feel complacent and protected on forums such as ATS but here you're just another poster. You want to make the claim that there is no masonic conspiracy fine, all I ask is that you prove it. The reality of this situation is you can't. . . Honestly, if I'm wrong prove it!
I never said it wasn't about a masonic conspiracy. And the case is hardly proven, just because enough people here believe doesn't make it true. There are still people who say the Earth is flat, but the rational mind knows that's not true.

I never said I felt protected at ATS. In fact, I received infractions for rude conduct on there. I can prove a lot, but what I post you say "I don't believe you". You did it all the time on ATS.

Mintwithahole.
09-24-2009, 08:28 PM
My answer to that is simple! PROVE IT!
The only way you can gain respect is by telling me the truth, but truth is something that masons find hard to understand or comprehend. You fail to understand that this is just me talking here. I am just one of hundreds, perhaps thousands who see the freemasonic cult for the dangerous cult it is. A wise man once said, "There is no smoke without fire. . . " If this is truly the case then lodges all over the world are set to burn down.
Masons are elitist snobs who feel they are above us ordinary people. I would hate to be in your shoes when us "ordinary people" get wind of what you're up to.

KSigMason
09-24-2009, 08:49 PM
My answer to that is simple! PROVE IT!
The only way you can gain respect is by telling me the truth, but truth is something that masons find hard to understand or comprehend. You fail to understand that this is just me talking here. I am just one of hundreds, perhaps thousands who see the freemasonic cult for the dangerous cult it is. A wise man once said, "There is no smoke without fire. . . " If this is truly the case then lodges all over the world are set to burn down.
Masons are elitist snobs who feel they are above us ordinary people. I would hate to be in your shoes when us "ordinary people" get wind of what you're up to.
See this is why I love the American justice system, innocent until proven guilty. The burden of proof lies with the accuser not the accused; the prosecutor must prove the case and then there is always reasonable doubt.

I have told the truth the entire time. Anything I said to you was the truth, you can believe it or not. I pride myself on my integrity and ability to not lie. Me not lying has got me into a lot of trouble; some people at work don't like that I tell them what I'm thinking.

How is it dangerous? Yeah, I highly doubt that the Lodges are "going to burn". Anti-Masons have existed as long as the Masons have existed, especially in America. The first 3rd political party was an anti-Mason party. Through all the lies of anti-Masons we have survived and will continue to survive.

Yeah, I'm an elitist snob. I'm a very charitable guy and I don't think I'm a snob. I grew up lower-middle class as my parents had modest paying jobs and my mom had a bunch of health problems. I only make $30,000 a year and my medical bills don't give me a bunch of spending money. I live within my means.

Mintwithahole.
09-24-2009, 09:00 PM
I'm not accusing you of lieing but you have bought into this whole masonic nonsense hook line and sinker!!! The reason you attempt to protect your cult is because you believe these people have made you a better man purely because you wear an apron and white gloves, call each other brother and self congratulate each other almost on a daily basis. Why would you do that? More importantly, why do you need that? What have you done to yourself. . ?
Break free of your masonic beliefs and see what is going on. . . By being a mason you become part of the problem. What problem, you say? Well, you're here on a conspiracy forum because you must realise that there's something going on that is being hidden from the general public. As a mason you are actively being part of that problem.

BlueAngel
09-24-2009, 09:37 PM
I'm not accusing you of lieing but you have bought into this whole masonic nonsense hook line and sinker!!! The reason you attempt to protect your cult is because you believe these people have made you a better man purely because you wear an apron and white gloves, call each other brother and self congratulate each other almost on a daily basis. Why would you do that? More importantly, why do you need that? What have you done to yourself. . ?
Break free of your masonic beliefs and see what is going on. . . By being a mason you become part of the problem. What problem, you say? Well, you're here on a conspiracy forum because you must realise that there's something going on that is being hidden from the general public. As a mason you are actively being part of that problem.

KSigMason is posting on a conspiracy forum that doesn't embrace Freemasonry because he's trying to defend the "CULT" to which he belongs, so, that, in the process, he can convince himself that Freemasonry is a good and charitable organization.

Mintwithahole.
09-24-2009, 09:49 PM
Yes, I understand that but how do you defend the undefendable? How can you sell this cult to the ordinary decent man in the street? They tried the old "charitable work" line of defence but even that is now wearing thin.

BlueAngel
09-24-2009, 09:52 PM
Yes, I understand that but how do you defend the undefendable? How can you sell this cult to the ordinary decent man in the street? They tried the old "charitable work" line of defence but even that is now wearing thin.

You don't sell this cult to the ordinary, decent man in the street.

Most ordinary, decent men don't hang out in the streets.

Mintwithahole.
09-24-2009, 09:59 PM
BY, "Man In The Street" I mean ordinary everyday people who you would find on the street at any given time of day. Why is it that these people seem to skip between the raindrops while life seemingly goes on without any alarm bells being rung? It's because the message Isn't getting out there to ordinary people! You see it for what it is. I see it for what it is, as do hundreds of thousands of others, but not enough people are hearing the warning.

BlueAngel
09-24-2009, 10:07 PM
BY, "Man In The Street" I mean ordinary everyday people who you would find on the street at any given time of day. Why is it that these people seem to skip between the raindrops while life seemingly goes on without any alarm bells being rung? It's because the message Isn't getting out there to ordinary people! You see it for what it is. I see it for what it is, as do hundreds of thousands of others, but not enough people are hearing the warning.

WOW!

I can't even comprehend how many ordinary, everyday people one can find on the street at any given time of the day.

Millions, perhaps?

Jeez!

I have no clue why these people seem to skip between the raindrops while life seemingly goes on without any alarm bells being rung?

Obviously, the message isn't getting out there to these millions of ordinary people.

You propose to know that I suffered?

How is that?

Anyway.

What warning about Freemasonry are enough people not hearing?

Mintwithahole.
09-24-2009, 10:15 PM
I don't propose to know that you've suffered! In all honestly I don't know you from Adam, but I'm more than aware of the danger of freemasonry. It's about appealing to someones ego. If you tell someone they are special, call them brother and promise to share secrets with them, people will fall for it and will dedicate their lives to it. If you've been hurt by these people I am truly sorry. All the more reason to try and warn others out there of what depths these people can fall to. . .

BlueAngel
09-24-2009, 10:18 PM
I don't propose to know that you've suffered! In all honestly I don't know you from Adam, but I'm more than aware of the danger of freemasonry. It's about appealing to someones ego. If you tell someone they are special, call them brother and promise to share secrets with them, people will fall for it and will dedicate their lives to it. If you've been hurt by these people I am truly sorry. All the more reason to try and warn others out there of what depths these people can fall to. . .

If you don't know me from ADAM, why then did you propose to know that I suffered and that it was UP TO ME to make sure that NO ONE else suffered as I did and that my STORY was just a small part of the bigger picture?

BlueAngel
09-24-2009, 10:20 PM
Chose your words carefully.

Mintwithahole.
09-24-2009, 10:23 PM
How do I know that you've suffered!!? You told me as such earlier. . . I'm giving you the benifit of the doubt and taking you at your word and will continue to do so until I find evidence to the contrary.

BlueAngel
09-24-2009, 10:24 PM
How do I know that you've suffered!!? You told me as such earlier. . . I'm giving you the benifit of the doubt and taking you at your word and will continue to do so until I find evidence to the contrary.

Kindly inform the forum as to where I told YOU earlier that I suffered.

I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt.

BlueAngel
09-24-2009, 10:25 PM
At this point in time, I believe you are no longer a Mintwithahole, but a MintWITHOUTahole.

BlueAngel
09-24-2009, 10:31 PM
As usual, another one BITES THE DUST.

Mintwithahole.
09-24-2009, 10:34 PM
What are you doing now? Quoting Queen songs perhaps. . ?
If I got you confused with another poster who was telling me how they'd sufered at the hands of the freemasons let me apologise but what's with all the pent up hostility?
You are a very strange person aren't you?

BlueAngel
09-24-2009, 10:42 PM
What are you doing now? Quoting Queen songs perhaps. . ?
If I got you confused with another poster who was telling me how they'd sufered at the hands of the freemasons let me apologise but what's with all the pent up hostility?
You are a very strange person aren't you?

Yeah.

I quoted a QUEEN song.

OMG!

What am I doing?

Oh.

You confused me with another poster.

How convenient.

Sorry, but I haven't displayed any pent up hostility.

You must have me confused with another poster.

No.

I'm not a very strange person.

Just a person.

Not strange at all.

However, I can't say the same about you.

Mintwithahole.
09-24-2009, 10:46 PM
There comes a point when you're conversing with someone when you realise that that person Isn't playing with a full deck!!!

BlueAngel
09-24-2009, 10:49 PM
There comes a point when you're conversing with someone when you realise that that person Isn't playing with a full deck!!!

I'm certain you would be the one who is playing without a full deck.

Mintwithahole.
09-24-2009, 10:54 PM
You're not very good at this spontaneous wit thing are you? It seems your only reply is to repeat what I've said! Please, please, it's so important to have an independent thought and opinion. For gods sake try and be a bit more original if you're going to argue with me and don't just repeat what I say.

BlueAngel
09-24-2009, 10:55 PM
You're not very good at this spontaneous wit thing are you? It seems your only reply is to repeat what I've said! Please, please, it's so important to have an independent thought and opinion. For gods sake try and be a bit more original if you're going to argue with me and don't just repeat what I say.

I'm very good at this spontaneous wit thing.

That's why you are at wit's end.

As evidenced by your inability to respond intelligently to any of my queries.

I've never repeated anything that you've said.

Mintwithahole.
09-25-2009, 09:46 PM
All you've done is repeat what I've said! You haven't got an original thought in your empty head. . . Seriously, I feel a bit sad really as I'm clearly trying to hold an intelligent conversation with a moron and by your idiotic replies all you're doing is making yourself look lame.
Blue Angel, don't be proud to get yourself some help from some highly trained mental nurses and professionals who will look after you and try to get you some peace of mind.
Best of luck with your treatment.

KSigMason
09-26-2009, 04:21 PM
I'm not accusing you of lieing but you have bought into this whole masonic nonsense hook line and sinker!!!
I bought into something I know to be good.

KSigMason is posting on a conspiracy forum that doesn't embrace Freemasonry because he's trying to defend the "CULT" to which he belongs, so, that, in the process, he can convince himself that Freemasonry is a good and charitable organization.
I don't have to convince myself. I know it's a good organization, experience trumps theories any day.

Yes, I understand that but how do you defend the undefendable? How can you sell this cult to the ordinary decent man in the street? They tried the old "charitable work" line of defence but even that is now wearing thin.
We don't seek members. Potential members come to us.

Mintwithahole.
09-26-2009, 06:32 PM
I think you're putting your faith in something that you can't possibly know everything about. Take author and 25 year mason, Simon Gray, for instance. . . He says, "The truth is 99% of the mason will die without knowing what is really going on at the top."
It always fascinates me how freemasons adore their secrets yet cannot come to terms with the idea that some of these secrets may be being kept from them! Also, how can a mason say that the supreme being he mentions in the rite is god when JSM Ward, a 33rd degree mason writes in his book, The Higher Degree-

"A considerable amount of excision was necessitated by the alteration of the claims in the masonic constitution which changed masonry from a christian to a non christian basis. ANYTHING CHRISTIAN WAS ELIMATED. . ."

So if christianity was removed and elimated from masonry how can your supreme being be god?

BlueAngel
09-26-2009, 08:25 PM
I have no clue why anyone wastes their time speaking with KSigMason about Freemasonry.

Obviously, he is a low man on the totem pole within this SOCIETY.

If he weren't, he wouldn't be on this CONSPIRACY forum.

Mintwithahole.
09-26-2009, 08:31 PM
I got to know of him on the masonic run ATS site. As much as I hate to admit it some of the masons there were not bad guys but at the same time, they seemed a little defensive when questioned about the masonic child abuse, racism and the secrets.
The reason I converse with him is because he's a mason! I like to hear their side of the story.

BlueAngel
09-26-2009, 08:53 PM
I got to know of him on the masonic run ATS site. As much as I hate to admit it some of the masons there were not bad guys but at the same time, they seemed a little defensive when questioned about the masonic child abuse, racism and the secrets.
The reason I converse with him is because he's a mason! I like to hear their side of the story.

KSigMason doesn't seem like a bad guy, either.

Just a low man on the totem pole of FREEMASONRY who wants to defend his membership in this SOCIETY.

He knows nothing of importance.

If he did, THEY wouldn't allow him to be posting on this or any other internet forum.

BlueAngel
09-26-2009, 09:18 PM
All you've done is repeat what I've said! You haven't got an original thought in your empty head. . . Seriously, I feel a bit sad really as I'm clearly trying to hold an intelligent conversation with a moron and by your idiotic replies all you're doing is making yourself look lame.
Blue Angel, don't be proud to get yourself some help from some highly trained mental nurses and professionals who will look after you and try to get you some peace of mind.
Best of luck with your treatment.

Since you are not intelligent, it is impossible for you to hold an intelligent conversation with anyone.

jmt
10-06-2009, 02:28 PM
Nuts always need a target to focus their fear on.

The masons, with their secret rituals, are an easy target for the intellectualy challenged.

so why the fack are you here? non-conspirator? :confused::mad:

Leonardo
10-09-2009, 05:41 PM
Screw the Masons!

samsamsonsoy
12-11-2009, 11:59 PM
well, maybe not, but what a genius way to hide a bad conspiracy; inside a benevolent organization of good men. are the higher ranks evil? not the 32 degree masons i know. maybe some other secret level, but all told, i agree that blaming an organization with secrets is a good one. fwiw, i agree the masons are not evil conspirators.


Some of the most foolish words I have ever heard !