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roscoe
10-21-2007, 10:40 PM
IT SEEMS STRANGE TO ME THAT IN THE LAST FEW HOURS, ABOUT 10 DIFFERENT FIRES HAVE STARTED ALL OVER SOUTHERN KALI. HERE AT LAX THE WINDS ARE 190 @5MPH-NOT BAD BUT IN SOME AREAS EVEN AT THIS TIME OF EVE THE WINDS ARE UP NEAR 40. NORMAL WEATHER PATTERN IS NOT TO RETURN UNTIL WED.

HOW DID ALL THESE FIRES START AT THE SAME TIME??

redrat11
10-22-2007, 05:28 PM
WT Heck is going on there? WOW!

redrat11
10-22-2007, 06:23 PM
BlueAngel wrote:
Fires.


Evertime there is the Santa Ana winds, the Arsonist have a field day, If not them, then the idiots who toss there cigarette buds out the window.

redrat11
10-23-2007, 06:12 AM
Californians better PRAY that a 7 or 8 earthquake does'nt occur.

Jimbo
10-23-2007, 08:28 AM
Suddenly. Supply goes down. Demand goes up. It will certainly come in as a blessing for the struggling (new construction) housing market in the near vicinity.

Jimbo
10-23-2007, 06:04 PM
<img src="http://www.divinecosmos.com/images/stories/firesatelliteg_468x421.jpg" height=600 width=600>
<a href="http://www.divinecosmos.com/images/stories/firesatelliteg_468x421.jpg" target="_blank">Satellite Photo of California Fires</a>

This photo shows that the fires a pretty widely spread apart, for them to be all related to some original fire & spread by wind. The fires are spread over a great portion of the state, from North to South, whereas the winds are blowing west for the entire region.

redrat11
10-25-2007, 05:22 AM
Jimbo wrote:
<img src="http://www.divinecosmos.com/images/stories/firesatelliteg_468x421.jpg" height=600 width=600>
<a href="http://www.divinecosmos.com/images/stories/firesatelliteg_468x421.jpg" target="_blank">Satellite Photo of California Fires</a>

This photo shows that the fires a pretty widely spread apart, for them to be all related to some original fire & spread by wind. The fires are spread over a great portion of the state, from North to South, whereas the winds are blowing west for the entire region.


Arsonist...


Arsonist Fires (http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-arson25oct25,0,1196901.story?coll=la-home-center)

George_Bush
10-25-2007, 10:23 AM
I find it somewhat interesting that several states have now adopted what is dubbed the 'Arson Ban.'

The Arson Ban usually goes into effect when the National Weather Service predicts weather conditions to be very probable for fires.

During these times, it is highly dangerous to both burn trash or to commit arson.

This is opposed to other days when weather conditions are of a higher relative humidity and one may safely engage in one's regularly scheduled burning and/or random acts of arson.

http://www.bbspot.com/Images/BBloopers/2006/arsonban.jpg

Jimbo
10-25-2007, 03:12 PM
California Fires - ??? - :-o :-o :-o

<img src="http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/194202main_goes-20071024-516.jpg" height=600 width=600>
<a href="http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/194202main_goes-20071024-516.jpg" target="_blank">California Fires 01 - Oct 2007</a>

<img src="http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/194328main_socalfire1-20071025_516px.jpg" height=300 width=600>
<a href="http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/194328main_socalfire1-20071025_516px.jpg" target="_blank">California Fires 02 - Oct 2007</a>

California Fires - Oct 2007

Look at the straight line behind all of the fires (towards the right),… It looks more like the result of a "laser beam" from an orbiting satellite than the job of an "arsonist". But then again, this is just speculating & for the sake of research into the “What the hell started these massive fires? And Why?”. Remember the recent ones in the ancient city of Olympia, Greece.

NOTE: If you "quote", for the photos to show, you need to "check" the "Enable HTML Tags" option below the "edit text box" area.

Thank God for "Freedom Of Speech"... An “Informed Citizen” makes a good “Patriot.”
8-)

redrat11
10-25-2007, 08:07 PM
Jimbo wrote:
California Fires - ??? - :-o :-o :-o

<img src="http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/194202main_goes-20071024-516.jpg" height=600 width=600>
<a href="http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/194202main_goes-20071024-516.jpg" target="_blank">California Fires 01 - Oct 2007</a>

<img src="http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/194328main_socalfire1-20071025_516px.jpg" height=300 width=600>
<a href="http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/194328main_socalfire1-20071025_516px.jpg" target="_blank">California Fires 02 - Oct 2007</a>

California Fires - Oct 2007

Look at the straight line behind all of the fires (towards the right),… It looks more like the result of a "laser beam" from an orbiting satellite than the job of an "arsonist". But then again, this is just speculating & for the sake of research into the “What the hell started these massive fires? And Why?”. Remember the recent ones in the ancient city of Olympia, Greece.

NOTE: If you "quote", for the photos to show, you need to "check" the "Enable HTML Tags" option below the "edit text box" area.

Thank God for "Freedom Of Speech"... An “Informed Citizen” makes a good “Patriot.”
8-)

Are you reffering to the Border line Jimbo, that straight line is the Border with Mexico, Or do you mean something else, as far as a straight line?

the fires seem to be scattered across the southern california area, they could have been started by satellite laser beams, it's possible, maybe the government is practising for a another MAGOR EVENT. also there is chatter about Mexican Illegals having a hand with this. Who Knows????

Jimbo
10-25-2007, 08:15 PM
It’s an “imaginary” line. If you connect all of the “dots” where fires originate from, on the right & away from all of the smoke, you should be able to see an “imaginary” straight line. Basically those are the “east-most fires”. If you can see them, they make a perfect “straight” line, running North to South right across the state.

Jimbo
10-26-2007, 08:03 AM
No, don’t look at the red dots. You are better off looking at the photo that does not have any dots. Then, you look at the smoke, which flows from right-to-left. Ok? Now, if you look at the right-most-portion of the smoke, eventually it stops right were it begins. Now, each bundle or pocket is separate, & away from the next bundle, & they are distributed from top-to-bottom, or north-to-south. Now, if you look at these sections, just where the fires begin, on their right-most-sections, & connected them w/ an "imaginary trace", they pretty much make up a straight-line. Look at the black & white photo. There, it is pretty clearly seen. That’s the best I can do to explain it.

Jimbo
10-26-2007, 08:41 AM
Well, there is supposedly an article, which I haven’t read that claims that some power-lines fell down & caught on fire. There is another report of some arsonist shot dead by police. Wouldn’t he be of more use to us alive? I would think so. So, these are actual reports justifying, or evidence of possible causes of what started or contributed to these fires. Just like the passports they found in the ruins of 911. Ok, aside from that, if you can picture the straight line, either a plane or flying craft, satellite or whatever, (a Russian UFO for that matter would do), traveling north or south could have dropped anything that could have initiated these fires. Pretty simple, along its flying path. Also, if there is any laser technology available, & I am sure there is got to be some by now, & pretty sophisticated, they could have also been initiated by a laser beam just going up & down, & intermittently turning itself on & off. Of course this is just a plausible theory in the realm of high-tech possibilities. Now, whether that is what really happened or not, “I am not saying that”. I am fat-dumb-&-happy w/ their official-story, if that what anyone wants to believe. Did you read my previous comment in this same thread where I briefly mention about the new construction or housing industry in CA, in general, eventually benefiting from these fires, not to mention the recent slump of the “financial markets”, for which it might eventually provide at least some temporary relief - with the money flow into the system for new home purchases or rents needed to re-house victims from these fires, fix all of the damage, etc. etc.. Well, that is another plausible scenario. Again whether “true or not”, I don’t know. Just speculating. Now, if I was either a “detective” w/ the authority to do so, or an “insurance agent” w/ the authority to do so, I’d look into it right away (foul play), w/o delay…

Jimbo
10-26-2007, 01:09 PM
Sout California Fires - Oct 2007 ??? - :-o :-o :-o

FBI Agents Shoot Dead Arsonist - California Fires Deliberate
http://www.infowars.com/articles/us/ca_fires_fbi_shoot_arsonist_fires_started_delibera tely.htm

Folly Of Human Development Exposed By SoCal Fires
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article3090313.ece

San Diego's Fires Worse Than Katrina
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5202

Thank God for "Freedom Of Speech"... An “Informed Citizen” makes a good “Patriot.”
8-)

redrat11
10-28-2007, 12:48 AM
redrat11 wrote:

Jimbo wrote:
California Fires - ??? - :-o :-o :-o

<img src="http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/194202main_goes-20071024-516.jpg" height=600 width=600>
<a href="http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/194202main_goes-20071024-516.jpg" target="_blank">California Fires 01 - Oct 2007</a>

<img src="http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/194328main_socalfire1-20071025_516px.jpg" height=300 width=600>
<a href="http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/194328main_socalfire1-20071025_516px.jpg" target="_blank">California Fires 02 - Oct 2007</a>

California Fires - Oct 2007

Look at the straight line behind all of the fires (towards the right),… It looks more like the result of a "laser beam" from an orbiting satellite than the job of an "arsonist". But then again, this is just speculating & for the sake of research into the “What the hell started these massive fires? And Why?”. Remember the recent ones in the ancient city of Olympia, Greece.

NOTE: If you "quote", for the photos to show, you need to "check" the "Enable HTML Tags" option below the "edit text box" area.

Thank God for "Freedom Of Speech"... An “Informed Citizen” makes a good “Patriot.”
8-)

Are you reffering to the Border line Jimbo, that straight line is the Border with Mexico, Or do you mean something else, as far as a straight line?

the fires seem to be scattered across the southern california area, they could have been started by satellite laser beams, it's possible, maybe the government is practising for a another MAGOR EVENT. also there is chatter about Mexican Illegals having a hand with this. Who Knows????



The "Chatter" was CONCLUSIVE!


CALIFORNIA WILDFIRES SET BY ILLEGAL ALIENS!
GUATEMALAN ARRESTED, CHARGED WITH ARSON - COPS HUNT OTHERS!
By Hal Turner

Illegal Aliens have been arrested by California Police and charged with setting at least two of the horrific Wildifres which burned much of southern California over the past 8 days. At least two such illegal aliens are in jail with "Immigration Holds" placed on them by Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

In the meantime, the reward for helping capture and convict arson suspects that intentionally set some of the fires in California has now been increased to $250,000.

The California fires destroyed an estimated 1,800 homes, causing well over 1 billion dollars of damage and burning 461,000 acres across drought-ravaged southern California from the Mexican border to Santa Barbara.

Wildfires have burned about 753 square miles and destroyed about 1,800 homes throughout the region, causing at least three deaths from flames. Two of the fires, in Orange and Riverside counties, are believe to be the work of arsonists.

Firefighters started turning back the blazes Wednesday as the powerful and hot Santa Ana winds started to subside. By Friday morning most of the fires were contained, though emergency officials warned that a sudden change in the weather could put them back on the defensive. One of the largest remaining fires was the Santiago Canyon fire, which authorities said was the result of arson. A reward of 250,000 dollars is being offered for information leading to the arsonist.

According to the Associated Press a total of five people have been placed under arrest. The latest arrest came Wednesday after witnesses spotted 41-year-old Catalino Pineda starting a fire on a San Fernando Valley hillside and then walking away, Los Angeles police said. Witnesses alerted authorities and followed him to a nearby restaurant where police arrested him.

Pineda, a Guatemala native, was booked for investigation of arson and held on $75,000 bail. He's currently on probation for making excessive false emergency reports to law enforcement, police said. Two others, an adult and a juvenile were arrested Tuesday for allegedly starting a small fire in the San Diego suburb of Vista. Still two more arrested in San Bernardino County earlier this week were charged with arson counts for setting blazes.

A sixth man was shot to death by police after tried ramming his vehicle into officers who approached to see if he might be trying to set a fire.

POLITICAL BETRAYAL:



At the exact same time that arson wildfires set by illegal aliens were ravaging Americans in California, the U.S. Senate - including California Senator Dianne Feisntein - were attempting to give AMNESTY to illegal aliens!

So obsessed with getting new voters for themselves, US Senators didn't even care that Americans were being burned out of their homes by illegal alien arsonists!

The effort to grant AMNESTY to illegal aliens was betryal enough but to do so on the very day that Americans were being burned out of their homes by illegal alien arsonists raises the betrayal to the level of mental illness!

These US Senators represent a clear and present danger to the country. It is time to get them out of office by any means necessary. ALL OF THEM!

In the meantime, wouldn't it be ironic if victims of the California wildfires decided to "pay back" the U.S. Senators who have been pushing for AMNESTY, by setting the homes of those Senators on fire?

Whatever the victims choose to do is solely up to them, but as a public service, I am pleased to post the home addresses of pro-immigration U.S. Senators below.

http://www.halturnershow.com/index.html

roscoe
10-28-2007, 03:48 PM
HERE IS THE ORIGINAL LINK TO CNN THAT HAL POSTED ALTHOUGH IT IS NO LONGER OPERATIVE

http://www.headlinenews.com/2007/US/10/25/fire.mecha/index.html

I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT 'MECHA' OR 'ILLEGALS' SET THE FIRES

redrat11
10-28-2007, 03:54 PM
They may have not set all the fires Roscoe, but, they sure set some of them. I think it was a wide range of arsonists that started the fires, You have to realize that when the Santa-Ana winds start blowing, all kinds of crazies find fires appealing. remember the BaY area fires way back when?

roscoe
10-28-2007, 07:04 PM
THE POINT IS TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO PLAY INTO THE HANDS OF PROVACATUERS LIKE TURNER AND MALKIN.

redrat11
10-28-2007, 07:57 PM
Don't you think the whole internet is full of provocateurs, on both sides, and from every angle, that is the way 'they' plan things.


The people who plan things, do it with perhaps 5 to ten years ahead of current time, thus the current situation is following a predictable timeline. Just think more insightful.

redrat11
10-28-2007, 08:15 PM
Yes they would BA, you see the 9-11 incident,the Iraq War, the Coming North American Union, these things were figured out many years ago, these fires were pre planned for maximum destruction, If you see all the events unfolding as just random coincidence, then I suspect your internal sensors have been deluded, that is not a insult, it is just a observation. think about all the Wars for instance, they were all pre planned decades before commencing.

redrat11
10-29-2007, 05:53 AM
BlueAngel wrote:
I am not stating that I believe the fires were pre-planned by anyone.

I am stating that, if they were, as you say, I don't believe it would require five to 10 years of planning.

I am not speaking about the time required to plan 911.

We KNOW the planning stages for events such as 911 take decades.

I am speaking about the fires.

BA, try to think hard about this, because it just came to me in a vision,(believe it or not) try to picture the American Revolution or the French Revolution, do you see fire, and structures on fire, burning and scattered over the countryside?

I know this probably makes no-sense, but, I sense the recent fires were deliberately set off by a (undetermined number) of individuals belonging to as yet undetermined organization, I know for a fact that in the American revolution Freemasonry had in a big hand in alot of covert activities, around the country at the time, I'm not saying that Masonry is somehow involved in the fires, but I'm saying there is some covert activity going on, because the "planning' it took to set off all the fires so as to 'engulf' the entire Southern California area is more than unreal.


I even heard a Top fire investigator say that it was highly unlikely that all those fires could have been set just randomly, there is a pattern there. My thinking is that there is 'message' embedded in the drama, whether evil or good, I don't know, but, more than likely evil. there is a message in the drama, just remember that.

And I'll be the first to say that if there is some close up satellite photos, then I bet you will see a clear 'sign' made by the fires, just my opinion.

roscoe
10-29-2007, 11:52 AM
AND AS A RESULT OF ALL THIS, BOY GEORGE IS RUNNING AROUND KALIFORNIA SAYING THAT OUR NEXT CYBORG PRESIDENT ARNOLD SCWARTZENEGGER IS EXHIBITING GREAT LEADERSHIP. I HAVE BEEN SAYING FOR QUITE SOME TIME THAT THE NEXT BIG NWO EVENT WOULD HAVE TO BE IN KALI AN ORDER TO GIVE ARNOLD SOME ALLEGED CREDIBILITY--BAR CODE ANYONE??--HOW ABOUT BRAIN CHIP???

redrat11
10-29-2007, 07:52 PM
BlueAngel wrote:
I am not stating that I believe the fires were pre-planned by anyone.

I am stating that, if they were, as you say, I don't believe it would require five to 10 years of planning.

I am not speaking about the time required to plan 911.

We KNOW the planning stages for events such as 911 take decades.

I am speaking about the fires.

BA, try to think hard about this, because it just came to me in a vision,(believe it or not) try to picture the American Revolution or the French Revolution, do you see fire, and structures on fire, burning and scattered over the countryside?

I know this probably makes no-sense, but, I sense the recent fires were deliberately set off by a (undetermined number) of individuals belonging to as yet undetermined organization, I know for a fact that in the American revolution Freemasonry had in a big hand in alot of covert activities, around the country at the time, I'm not saying that Masonry is somehow involved in the fires, but I'm saying there is some covert activity going on, because the "planning' it took to set off all the fires so as to 'engulf' the entire Southern California area is more than unreal.


I even heard a Top fire investigator say that it was highly unlikely that all those fires could have been set just randomly, there is a pattern there. My thinking is that there is 'message' embedded in the drama, whether evil or good, I don't know, but, more than likely evil. there is a message in the drama, just remember that.

And I'll be the first to say that if there is some close up satellite photos, then I bet you will see a clear 'sign' made by the fires, just my opinion.



Ok, I did some research on the possible origins of the fires, there is plenty of conspiracy theories out there, but, I'm sticking to mine above, however the theory about BLACKWATER is plausible, and it would be in line with mine, and the one I forgot to add is this, You've heard of the term "Jewish Lightning" you know how Jews are famous for burning things down when economic opportunity arises, well, I'd bet that a few hundred of those expensive homes,(over a million dollars) are jewish owned, also everyone knows that the housing market,Financial mortgage, insurance sectors, of Southern California is hitting rock bottom, well, all those institutions, are Jewish owned, along with just about everything else in America.


How coincidental that now those sectors will now benefit from the fires. Also I forgot to mention that all the afformentioned events are all interconected, below here are some links to tie it all together.

http://redpill8.blogspot.com/2007/10/who-is-responsible-for-california-fires.html



http://www.rense.com/general78/credit.htm



http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/vnn/462946752.html

Blackwater...


Fires-Blackwater (http://djkonservo.wordpress.com/2007/10/26/fires-conspiracy-moonbat-randi-rhodes/)

redrat11
10-29-2007, 08:00 PM
:-)

Jimbo
10-29-2007, 09:08 PM
<a href="http://www.clubconspiracy.com/userinfo.php?uid=57" target="_blank">Jimbo</a> wrote: Re: KALIFORNIA FIRES - Post #9
Suddenly. Supply goes down. Demand goes up. It will certainly come in as a blessing for the struggling (new construction) housing market in the near vicinity.


<a href="http://www.clubconspiracy.com/userinfo.php?uid=57" target="_blank">Jimbo</a> wrote: Re: KALIFORNIA FIRES - Post #20
Well, there is supposedly an article, which I haven’t read that claims that some power-lines fell down & caught on fire. There is another report of some arsonist shot dead by police. Wouldn’t he be of more use to us alive? I would think so. So, these are actual reports justifying, or evidence of possible causes of what started or contributed to these fires. Just like the passports they found in the ruins of 911. Ok, aside from that, if you can picture the straight line, either a plane or flying craft, satellite or whatever, (a Russian UFO for that matter would do), traveling north or south could have dropped anything that could have initiated these fires. Pretty simple, along its flying path. Also, if there is any laser technology available, & I am sure there is got to be some by now, & pretty sophisticated, they could have also been initiated by a laser beam just going up & down, & intermittently turning itself on & off. Of course this is just a plausible theory in the realm of high-tech possibilities. Now, whether that is what really happened or not, “I am not saying that”. I am fat-dumb-&-happy w/ their official-story, if that what anyone wants to believe. Did you read my previous comment in this same thread where I briefly mention about the new construction or housing industry in CA, in general, eventually benefiting from these fires, not to mention the recent slump of the “financial markets”, for which it might eventually provide at least some temporary relief - with the money flow into the system for new home purchases or rents needed to re-house victims from these fires, fix all of the damage, etc. etc.. Well, that is another plausible scenario. Again whether “true or not”, I don’t know. Just speculating. Now, if I was either a “detective” w/ the authority to do so, or an “insurance agent” w/ the authority to do so, I’d look into it right away (foul play), w/o delay…

I have been saying this for a while, but no one seemed have noticed ???

Jimbo
10-29-2007, 09:49 PM
<a href="http://www.clubconspiracy.com/userinfo.php?uid=1789" target="_blank">BlueAngel</a> wrote:
Whatever they hit us with next and if California is their target, maybe this is a "trial run" for Arnie.

Don't you think that Guilani had to have known about 911 before they carried out the attack?

Absolutely. “Trial-Run”, that is the 1st thing that ran through my mind. Perfect scenario for F E M-A. I am still wondering if there were any real live [&secrete] “Terra-Drills” (or better yet “Mocked Terra Raids”) carried out during the fires. That would certainly put the “icing on the cake”. As far as the “insurance scam” w/ buying new homes, “absolutely”. Makes perfect sense. Another thing is common whenever things like this happen on a “grand scale”, there are typically many angles & many benefactors. So this does fit the pattern of some kind of a cons-piracy.

Now as far as Mr. “Guilani” (I like your spelling because is non-scannable) is concerned, he welcomed F E M A-the night before 911. He had to know something was coming down. Not only that, he had “his” personal command & control center destroyed w/ they “pulled” building seven. So, not only did he know, but he was immersed in it up to his bald head.

What is "Arnie" ??? - Sorry, I didn't see it coming. You mean "Arnald"...