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stompk
01-31-2008, 05:44 AM
We on the verge of a world economic collapse, which is purposefully being spurred on by the NWO (IMF-World Bank-Federal Reserve) and the Bank of England, controlled by the Queen of England.

She is the woman that rides the beast.

10 heads.

There have been 10 US presidents since she took power in 1952.
There have been 10 Prime Ministers of England.
There have been 10 Prime Ministers of Israel.
She is also the head of the G10.
Group of Ten (economic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_of_Ten_(economic))


Revelations 13:2 also says, "And the dragon gave him his power and his throne and great authority." The dragon is "symbolic" to others, but not to Prince Charles. He has a red dragon on his coat of arms. It comes from the flag of Wales, and it is in this title, Prince of Wales, that Charles is heir-apparent to the throne of Great Britain. At his coronation (investiture as Prince of Wales) in 1969, he sat on a chair with a large red dragon emblazoned on it. During the ceremony, his mother Queen Elizabeth II said, "This dragon gives you your power, your throne and your own authority." His response to her was, "I am now your Liege-man, and worthy of your earthly worship." Liege is an old English word meaning "Lord".
The Royals and the Antichrist (http://www.cephasministry.com/prophecy_royals_and_the_antichrist.html)


And here we are. Financial Armageddon.


t must be emphasized, that the entire planet is presently gripped by a dynamic mode of general breakdown-crisis, a breakdown-crisis of the entirety of the world's financial-economic system. In brief: there are no national economies which, in the final analysis, are not equally threatened by the currently on-rushing, worst such catastrophe in all of that portion of the world's history since the so-called "New Dark Age" of Europe's 14th Century. If any major economy of the planet goes down, all of the world's economies go down in the same plunge.
A World System in Collapse!, by Lyndon H. LaRouche, Jr. (Jan. 29, 2008) (http://www.larouchepub.com/lar/2008/3506world_collapse_ivashov.html)



How?? you ask.

Through the office of the Comptroller (OOC), i.e. James Dugan, and the Basel II system.

First, they created a housing bubble, luring in the poor with cheap and easy credit.


Before John Dugan became Comptroller of Currency, he argued for H.R. 2622 (Fair Credit Reporting Act.
http://financialservices.house.gov/media/pdf/070903jd.pdf
which basically allow banks to pool credit information nationwide.

So if you have bad credit in Kentucky, and you move to California, they can deny you a bank account, access to credit, access to loans, etc.

Before, banks didn't really talk to each other. If you screwed up a checking account, you could go to another bank, and open a checking account.

Not anymore. Once you are in a check system, you cannot open an account for 7 yrs, in most places, even if you cleared up the previous problem.

So they effectively isolate the people who don't conform to credit properly. Anybody ever wonder why your credit score is 520-840 instead of 1-5? Well, the AVERAGE credit score in Georgia is 666. 666 is THEIR (the bankers) way of subliminally getting us to accept that number, and secretly mock God.

Some may ask, why an average? Because it puts the number in the middle, 666, as the focus (subliminally).

Now, John Dugan is not only the Comptroller of Currency, which was the last person for the Federal Reserve to go through to pass the Basel II system, but he is the CHAIRMAN of the joint forum!

John C. Dugan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_C._Dugan)

What people don't understand is that the Comptroller of Currency is quite possibly the most important financial regulating position in the US government. It is the OOC that regulate the Federal Reserve. The last line of defense for corruption in our money accounting system.

So having John Dugan sitting as Chairman of the Joint Forum is a huge conflict of interest, because they take their orders from the IMF (International Monetary Fund) and the World Bank, which gets it's orders from the Bank of England, (who sets LIBOR rates), who gets their orders from the Queen of England, Head of the Commonwealth.


The Basel II system effectively gives banks that are on board with the central banking system an advantage, closing out the small, community owned banks. We have seen that in recent years, where small community banks are being bought out by big corporate banks.

This is to control all money. All money, ie. gas, tax,interest, basically, anything they can skim, goes to the powers that have formed, (Knights of Malta) with money laundering facilities on the Isle of Mann.

Did you know the Queen of England is called "The Lord Of Mann"? She also puts her face on all of her money, just like Caesar, and she actually has minted a platinum coin.

All US banks (central banks) are electronically converting their holding into the "Eurodollar". The "Eurodollar" is strictly and electronic form of currency.

Soon, we will all have a card, or chip, that will only allow one to purchase in "Eurodollars". Tangible money, ie, cash, will be outlawed. Gold will be only allowed to be kept by the elite.

There will be a seperation, between the haves, and the have nots.

Except for those days be shortened for the sake of the elect.

Vote Ron Paul.

stompk
02-07-2008, 06:23 AM
Ever hear of a Corporate Sweep account?



In United States Banking, eurodollars are a popular option for what are known as "sweeps". By law, banks aren't allowed to pay interest on corporate checking accounts. To accommodate larger businesses, banks may automatically transfer, or sweep, funds from a corporation's checking account into an overnight investment option to effectively earn interest on those funds. Banks usually allow these funds to be swept either into money market mutual funds, or alternately they may be used for bank funding by transferring to an offshore branch of a bank (thus a eurodollar).


Source: Eurodollar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurodollar)

But guess what. You have to read the fine print.


Please note that your money in the Sweep Investment Account is invested in money market funds that are not insured nor guaranteed by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) or any other government agency. Although the funds seek to preserve the value of your investment at $1.00 per share, it is possible to lose money by investing in the funds. A current prospectus must accompany investment information. Investors should read the prospectus carefully before investing.

Source: Guaranty Bank - Home (http://www.guarantybank.com/corporate/tr)...

Some of these corporations hold billion in their corporate checking accounts. Naturally, although unethical, many are
going to allow the banks to do this.

What happens when these investment begin to tank, like they are, and the holders of the offshore eurodollar accounts begin to keep more and more, effectively sucking up all the dollars in the US.

Since they control the Federal Reserve, they can simply print more money, further deflating the value of the dollar,

trapping these huge corporate investments in offshore accounts, that Americans have absolutely no control over.

Delta
02-07-2008, 08:39 PM
What exactly is your point?

And by the way an inconvenient detail for your tretise"

The FDIC provides deposit insurance which currently guarantees checking and savings deposits in member banks up to $100,000 per depositor.

stompk
02-10-2008, 05:18 AM
I will quote someone from another online conversation.


ARE THE BANKS OUT OF RESERVES?
Let me preface this by saying that I'm not at all certain I understand what I'm looking at here correctly.
I've been fighting with this all weekend, and don't wish to alarm.
But perhaps "alarmed" is exactly what we should be right now.
Reference? Right here http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/h...
Specifically:

Date total(2) non- required excess Monetary credit, total primary secondary seasonal
borrowed(3) NSA(4) base(5) NSA
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
30p 41639 -8751 40179 1460 821298 50000 390 385 0 5
What are you looking at here?
This is the last line of the Fed's "Statistical Release" from January 31st. All figures are in millions. The link to their page is above.
The "Total" is the total amount of reserves in the Fed System (among all member banks), and is approximately $41.5 billion. The required reserves, based on the amount on deposit, is $40.2 billion (roughly.)
So far so good.
But notice that "non-borrowed" number - the negative 8751?
What does that mean?
Well, after much study and trying to get the numbers to all add up, the light went on.
Let's add up a few things for everyone.
The TAF credit, which is the amount that Fed Banks have borrowed in total through the TAF facility through January 30th, is 50 billion. We also have other primary and seasonal borrowings, which are quite small (and normal) of $385 and $5 million, respectively.
Now let's get out our trusty calculator and add things up.
50000 + 390 (385 + 5) - 8751 = $41,639.
The books balance. But do you notice anything about this bookkeeping? Literally all of the banks' reserves, on balance, are in fact Fed Credit from the Federal Reserve!
WHERE IS YOUR MONEY THAT YOU DEPOSITED?

Source: The Steamboat Pilot & Today: Discussion: hey sbvor, still think we aren't in a recession? (http://www.steamboatpilot.com/forums/open/reader_forum/446/)

Does the FDIC really hold $100,000 in reserve for every depositor?

How much is that? I would guess around $86 trillion. Which is exactly
what the banking system has hedged right now.

stompk
02-10-2008, 05:44 AM
Joint Forum
The Joint Forum was established in 1996 under the aegis of the Basel Committee on Banking Supervision (BCBS), the International Organization of Securities Commissions (IOSCO) and the International Association of Insurance Supervisors (IAIS) to deal with issues common to the banking, securities and insurance sectors, including the regulation of financial conglomerates. The Joint Forum is comprised of an equal number of senior bank, insurance and securities supervisors representing each supervisory constituency.

Chairman

Current: John C Dugan, Comptroller of the Currency, United States
Previous: Dirk Witteveen, de Nederlandsche Bank (2006-September 2007)
Ian Johnston, Hong Kong Securities and Futures Commission (June-December 2005)
Gay Huey Evans, UK Financial Services Authority (2004-June 2005)
José María Roldán, Bank of Spain (2002-2003)
Jarl Symreng, Finansinspektionen - Sweden (2000-2001)
Alan Cameron, Australian Securities and Investments Commission (1998-1999)
Tom de Swaan, de Nederlandsche Bank (1996-1997)


The financial power this one man holds is staggering.

John Dugan stepped into the position because Witteveen died.

Here is the Basel system at work.
pdf: http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/publications/fsr/1996/art8(Issue%201).pdf
The Basel committee could very well
be the "gnomes of zurich" the JFK spoke about shortly before he died.

They emerged publically in 1974, but I bet they were formed long before that.

stompk
02-10-2008, 06:28 AM
The Working Group, which Ron Paul questioned John McCain about, said this, about public disclosure of banking records, for transparancy in the system.


The Working Group reached three broad conclusions about the challenge of improving financial disclosure practices which inform the Group's specific recommendations.

First, in order for public disclosures to provide a more meaningful picture of the extent and nature of the financial risks a firm incurs, and of the efficacy of the firm's risk management practices, it is necessary that there be a healthy balance between quantitative and qualitative disclosures. Disagreements do not occur about this principle but tend to focus on how this balance is achieved.

Second, disclosures should be consistent with firms' own risk management practices. Where the Working Group has focused on specific elements of risk, firms should frame their disclosures regarding these elements in ways determined by the internal parameters and exposure categories that firms use to assess and manage their risks when meaningful comparability can not be achieved. While comparability is an important objective, it is recognised that this will not always be practicable.

Third, information about intraperiod exposures - particularly in the form of high, median and low observations - can provide a more meaningful view of a firm's risk profile than period-end data alone. Much of current disclosures still rely on period-end information that permits window dressing of the information provided to creditors and investors.
(bold added)
Source: Final Report of the Multidisciplinary Working Group on Enhanced Disclosure (http://www.bis.org/publ/joint01.htm)

These are people in direct control of our current financial crisis. They are making huge amount of money, by playing the difference between the Fed Reserve rates and the Libor rates.

Sweep account are corporate account, but they are yours and mine (well, I'm self employed) payroll accounts. If you work for a large corporation, there is a good chance they actually hold your payroll in Eurodollars, on the Isle of Mann, or a Swiss bank, or another offshore account. But they will be in Eurodollars, cause the US dollar value has gone so far down.

When these corporations go to withdraw their funds in dollars, it's you and I that lose.

Delta
02-10-2008, 05:59 PM
You are pasting alot but saying very little!

stompk
02-13-2008, 06:30 AM
You are pasting alot but saying very little!

Pot calling the kettle black?

Delta
02-13-2008, 01:06 PM
I am only responding to the tripe that you write.

Unlike you, I would not cast baseless accusations. I have too much respect for the forum readers to do what you do.

stompk
02-14-2008, 04:00 AM
Yo delta, what part of CONSPIRACY forum did you not understand. You are the typical disinfo agent. Working for the government. As an ex navy seal, your delta name makes me laugh, like you think it makes you seem tough or something. NOT.

Everything I post, has some element of fact to it. When I took my oath, it was to protect our country against all enemies, foriegn and domestic, like disinfo propogandists like you.

stompk
02-14-2008, 12:00 PM
Not only did the Bush administration do nothing to protect consumers, it embarked on an aggressive and unprecedented campaign to prevent states from protecting their residents from the very problems to which the federal government was turning a blind eye.

Let me explain: The administration accomplished this feat through an obscure federal agency called the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency (OCC). The OCC has been in existence since the Civil War. Its mission is to ensure the fiscal soundness of national banks. For 140 years, the OCC examined the books of national banks to make sure they were balanced, an important but uncontroversial function. But a few years ago, for the first time in its history, the OCC was used as a tool against consumers.


Source: washingtonpost.com - nation, world, technology and Washington area news and headlines (http://washingtonpost.com)

People are waking up to the recent abuses in the OCC, and John Dugan.

stompk
02-16-2008, 06:29 AM
The following article was written in April 2007, and predicts exactly the situation we are currently in.


The trade deficit puts downward pressure on the dollar and acts as a hidden tax. In fact, that’s what it is--a tax! Every day the deficit grows, more money is stolen from the retirements and life savings of working class Americans. It’s an inflation bombshell obscured by the bland rhetoric of “free markets” and deregulation.

Consider this: In 2002 the euro was $.87 on the dollar. Last Friday (4-6-07) it closed at $1.34-- a better than 50% gain for the euro in just 4 years. The same is true of gold. In April 2000, gold was selling for $279 per ounce. Last Friday, at the close of the market it skyrocketed to $679.50---more than double the price.

Gold isn’t going up; it’s simply a meter on the waning value of the dollar. The reality is that the dollar is tanking big-time, and the main culprit is the widening trade deficit.

The demolition of the dollar isn’t accidental. It’s part of a plan to shift wealth from one class to another and concentrate political power in the hands of a permanent ruling elite. There’s nothing particularly new about this and Bush and Greenspan have done nothing to conceal what they are doing. The massive expansion of the Federal government, the unfunded tax cuts, the low interest rates and the steep increases in the money supply have all been carried out in full-view of the American people. Nothing has been hidden. Neither the administration nor the Fed seem to care whether or not we know that we’re getting screwed --it’s just our tough luck. What they care about is the $3 trillion in wealth that has been transferred from wage slaves and pensioners to brandy-drooling plutocrats like Greenspan and his n’er-do-well friend, Bush.

These policies have had a devastating effect on the dollar which has been slumping since Bush took office in 2000. Now that foreign purchases of US debt are dropping off, the greenback could plunge to even greater depths. There’s really no way of knowing how far the dollar will fall.

That puts us at a crossroads. We are so utterly dependent on the “charity of strangers” (foreign investment) that a 9% blip in the Chinese stock market (or even a .25 basis point up-tick in the yen) sends Wall Street into a downward spiral. As the housing market continues to unwind, the stock market (which is loaded with collateralized mortgage debt) will naturally edge lower and foreign investment in US Treasuries and securities will dry up. That’ll be doomsday for the greenback as central banks across the planet will try to unload their stockpiles of dollars for gold or foreign currencies.

Source: Doomsday for the Greenback (http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=WHI20070411&articleId=5341)

stompk
02-23-2008, 05:52 AM
Yesterday, in the stock market, will be viewed as historic.

External News Link: GLOBAL MARKETS-U.S. stocks rise on credit bailout news | Markets | Bonds News | Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/bondsNews/idUSN2222468220080222)

U.S. Treasury debt prices eased after stocks slashed losses on the Ambac news, causing investors to dump safe-haven U.S. government debt.

"Talk of an Ambac bailout to be announced over the weekend has given stocks a late boost to the detriment of bonds," said Andrew Brenner, senior vice president at MF Global in New York, in an email message.


The reason the market jumped so much is because the volume of stocks being traded is low. IMO, it's public day traders running the stock market right now. The long term investors have stopped trading or are putting money into commodities, ie gold, and oil.

The catch is, no matter how we look at it, we are trapped into economic meltdown.

Things are going to get rough. When the power shuts off in entire regions, because power
companies are controlled through foreign interests, things will get rough.

Shadow
02-23-2008, 10:09 AM
Just how exactly is a foreign entity going to tell an american to shut down an american power plant?

You are looking under the wrong stone there stumpy!

stompk
02-25-2008, 04:16 AM
Ever hear the term "commonwealth"?

The crown controls everything that
can be bought.

Jeez Delta, you need to do some research.

rahman700
05-21-2008, 09:52 AM
a genuine question: to what end the economic hijacking of america?
to cause a collapse from which a new order led by the NWO or anyone else? or to just to bring an end to the consumerist-materialist-capitalist consensus and return to a spiritual society, as suggested in the history of the cathars film?

KennyWally
05-21-2008, 03:46 PM
stompk,


you are not going to get good clues from a controlled media.....unless you know what to look for.

it just ain't gonna happen.

the mark of the beast is not a thing, it is more about what you think and how you act.

the beast will control us with money and laws, but the woman who rides the beast is not the queen.

the " woman", is the church, usually referred to as the mother church.

the beast is the political system that is being used to change laws and control people.

the "mark" of the beast will be the sunday laws enacted to "save" us, a kind of "act of repentance" to God, but sunday is not the sabbath, so the "act" is just that, an "act" to fool people into following mans law.

this law will be enacted after a terrible disaster that will affect most of the planet.

mangaman
07-06-2008, 12:56 PM
The NWO would put the world in economic collapse and then have someone rise up as a hope to the world, the civilians would give up all their rights just to have peace and stabilty again. I can see through them.

VIVA LA REVOLUTION

stompk
10-22-2008, 06:54 AM
The NWO would put the world in economic collapse and then have someone rise up as a hope to the world, the civilians would give up all their rights just to have peace and stabilty again. I can see through them.

VIVA LA REVOLUTION

VIVA LA REVOLUTION!

stompk
11-15-2009, 11:11 AM
I wrote this thread in Jan, 2008, before the current economic situation.

How did I know?

stompk
07-18-2012, 07:46 AM
Prophetic.

stompk
09-26-2012, 08:16 AM
Bump

Ozziecynic
10-06-2012, 08:59 PM
We on the verge of a world economic collapse, which is purposefully being spurred on by the NWO (IMF-World Bank-Federal Reserve) and the Bank of England, controlled by the Queen of England.
Are you a fan of Lyndon Larouche these anti Brit Royal sentiments sound familiar?

stompk
10-07-2012, 03:07 PM
Are you a fan of Lyndon Larouche these anti Brit Royal sentiments sound familiar?

Just telling the truth. Yes, Americans have fought two wars against the meddling Brits. They never got done meddling, just like they still meddle in India, Africa..etc.

Of course the Queen controls your country too.

Ozziecynic
10-08-2012, 04:42 AM
Just telling the truth. Yes, Americans have fought two wars against the meddling Brits. They never got done meddling, just like they still meddle in India, Africa..etc.

And Lyndon Larouche?

stompk
10-08-2012, 07:08 AM
And Lyndon Larouche?

No, not a fan.

Ozziecynic
10-09-2012, 10:44 PM
How much anti brit sentiment is there in the US. I thought most neo cons were pro brit they seemed to be that way when GWB was in office.
UK has similar politics to america after all since thatcher & reagan were great libertarian friends in the 80s and followed many of the same small gov, privatisation, low tax for the wealthy policies.

stompk
10-11-2012, 06:45 AM
How much anti brit sentiment is there in the US. I thought most neo cons were pro brit they seemed to be that way when GWB was in office.
UK has similar politics to america after all since thatcher & reagan were great libertarian friends in the 80s and followed many of the same small gov, privatisation, low tax for the wealthy policies.

Not near enough anti-sentiment in my opinion.

I have nothing against the British people in general, my beef lies with the Royal bitch and her ilk and the London Banking cartel. Also, the Freemason, in this country, whether they realize it or not, support the Royal bitch, as she is the head of all Masons. She is 'the see', or what the eye at the top of the pyramid symbolizes. That is why she is called 'Lord or Man' because whomever presides over the Isle Of Mann, where the CUBE is, is top dog. Prince William will be next.