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nowheretorun
02-29-2008, 09:20 PM
Jordan Maxwell, "Godfather of Secret Societies" and New World Order Shill (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9207351371478132272)

http://www.jordanmaxwell.com/images/lucas_eisner_maxwell.gif

Yes, Im getting tired of the “exposed” thing too, but hear me out.

From Jordan Maxwell:

"There are people on the earth that are divinely ordained in there positions of power"

"I am smart enough to accept that"

They have "extraordinary wisdom, power, and knowledge"

Jordan believes that these hybrid god/men are “ordained to give order” sometime very soon
I.E. world government/religion

Jordan believes that his god communicates only to those that understand symbols, and that when they come back to set up their “order” they are going to reward him and others who have illumination to these mysteries and symbols.

These are just a few of Jordan Maxwells statements and beliefs (watch the video)
Jordan Maxwell, "Godfather of Secret Societies" and New World Order Shill (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9207351371478132272)


please do watch this 30 min video, It details some of the above statements and asks some serious questions about the similarities of Jordan Maxwell’s bottom line, and that of the secret societies he exposes. Sure, I know he told you all about secret societies, and symbolism, and conspiracy, but lets look at some of what else he has taught you.

This will confuse you if you still think that the only goal of the illuminati types is to build a world government/police state and to reduce the population. Those are only necessary steps in that plan. Like it or not. they have a religious agenda as well, you can look at this two ways imo, either that they need the world religion to create “patriotism” for the world government (which they have been setting up with Rockefeller backed alien “space brother” propaganda to unite the world and destroy national soverenty) or that they want us to worship someone or something new for some reason, or both. From what I can tell by watching their money, and what they prop up, and who they kill, they are far more concerned with this religious agenda than they are with the nuts and bolts of the system (although that’s important as well), Its so crucial that they use their own secrets as bait, This is the premise to making sense of this misinformation, and make no mistake, they do provide some of the best info out there, its one of the oldest tools in the toolbox. I know most of you understand this basic stuff so Ill move on to some of the specifics

One of the big ones for me is his blind adherence to HUGE errors in Zechariah Sitchins translations of ancient texts, which can only be made if one were trying very hard manipulate the texts. (I submit that they have a very good reason to do just that)
I will refer you to some specific errors explained by Dr Micheal Heiser at SitchinIsWrong (http://www.sitchiniswrong.com)
He also details why Sitchin either knows very little of the languages he says he is an exert on, or he is deliberately lying.

But Sitchin’s translations have become so central to Maxwells lectures that its important to detail the specifics of how exactly they are wrong.

http://sitchiniswrong.com/dc101elohim.pdf
http://www.michaelsheiser.com/nephilim.pdf

Again watch the video I posted, it makes this quite clear that Maxwell is giddy with excitement about this new order, and for the hybrids that he believes have the “divine right” to rule over us coming back to reward him and anyone else that wants to join in on the illumination (!)

You will find this same Atlantis Theme all throughout The Theosophical society stuff, I.E. Blavatsky, Crowley, Nazi crap. I find it very interesting indeed that Micheal Tsarion who has been closely linked with the theosophical society Micheal Tsarion and the Rosicrucian connection (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2021536538307544046)

is sooo very close to Maxwell, and Tsarion cant seem to shut up about how great Atlantis was and how much a new one would rock, same thing with Freeman seems to have this same aliment.

Anyway, Maxwell was given his start by a group called the Truth Seeker Company Truth Seeker Company (http://www.truthseeker.com/) which is about a hundred years old, and has been trying to debunk Christianity using anything and everything they can throw at it, regardless of how “true” it actually is, they are big Sitchin cheerleaders too, which may explain Maxwell’s dependence on Zach’s translations.

In any case, I think a very telling moment is when Maxwell early in his career went on the late Bill Coopers radio show during his “Mystery Babylon series” (which I highly recommend William Cooper's Mystery Babylon Series (http://oneheartbooks.com/resources/audios/cooper_mystery_babylon.htm) )

Cooper, who had spent a lot of time proving without a doubt that the secret societies had forced their sun/luciferian religion into Christianity not the other way around (as zeitgeist and Maxwell constantly insinuate) Take the Zeitgeist Challenge - Home (http://zeitgeistchallenge.com) anyway, he had let Jordan tell his “sun gods are Jesus” thing until he stopped him and got him to admit that that isn’t actually “real word” history, but symbolism forced on Christianity by the elites after failing to kill them off. Here is a short clip I edited. The first part is Cooper saying he only met Maxwell that same day
http://conspiracyclothes.com/nowheretorun/ra/coopermaxwellclip.wav

If you have been around in this conspiracy world for any length of time you probably have a figured out a few people in it that you for sure, or have a hunch, that are cointelpro or disinformers. I bet you that you can find Jordan hugging on one or two of them in his “friends” list on his website
JordanMaxwell.com (http://www.jordanmaxwell.com/gallery.html)

Look at Jordan’s website and his affiliations JordanMaxwell.com (http://jordanmaxwell.com/bio/2_affiliations.html)
Red flags all over the field here

Like Icke, and Tsarion, Maxwell claims to have been guided buy other dimensional spirits to do the things He is doing. They all claim to have had specific paranormal experiences dealing with these entities early on that led them to the “truth” Maby that’s why he is such a lover of occult practice and rituals.. that’s funny though because, I know of a group that’s trying to kill most of the worlds population that loves that stuff too.

I find it interesting that they have zero opposition, and a guy Like Bill Cooper was killed and while people like Fritz Springmeier are locked away for life while the people who say the exact opposite are paraded around on Coast to Coast, and the Discovery Channel, and the Scifi network, and Rense and the rest.

I promise to get off the “exposing” thing soon, but I feel like im in that movie “they live” and I think its high time we started mass producing these specs.

Drew_J
03-25-2008, 02:47 PM
Shill or not his information on admiralty law and astotheology is top notch. If you're the kind of person whose spirituality comes from within and you are not dependent for your sanity on some phony God, then Maxwell and Tsarion are just the guys to go to; if you can handle the facts about bullshit religions.

παράνοια
03-26-2008, 09:09 AM
Gold Star for you Drew

Shadow
03-26-2008, 12:29 PM
I thought it would be a red star?

παράνοια
03-27-2008, 12:39 AM
stop putting holes in my congrats speech :(

Shadow
03-27-2008, 03:38 AM
You could cover them up with those red stars!

truebeliever
03-30-2008, 05:23 AM
if you can handle the facts about bullshit religions.

And what of yours?

That the "alien" master race will come and save you?

An "Alien Invasion"...staged...is about all they have left.

I have my pop corn ready.

truebeliever
03-30-2008, 05:25 AM
Jordan Maxwell and Hilder are all a part of the scammer (Benny Hinn) road show.

There is good money to be made. I do beleive he beleives what he says though.

Beware anyone grossly over weight telling you they have got the low down. They eat like pigs for a reason. That goes for Alex Jones also.

nowheretorun
06-04-2008, 10:56 AM
ok i did some further research on this. and I did a movie on it.

This is a film detailing the many mistakes and outright lies of Jordan Maxwell.

After months of research and checking Jordan Maxwell’s “facts” I found him to be a very deceptive and manipulative teacher. In addition to debunking many of his claims this films looks at his motivations and associations and shows that his philosophy is exactly that of the So called New World Order although its very cleverly hidden. You will find his devotion to Theosophy includes naming Himself “Jordanus Maximus”

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I used to believe everything this man said.

Not anymore.

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Do I Think he is one of THEM?

I don’t know, but I do know that whether he is or not he is helping sell so called Truth Seekers the New World Order religion on a silver platter.



Debunking Jordan Maxwell The Movie (2nd edition) (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1155202722043130535)

KennyWally
06-06-2008, 12:19 PM
nowheretorun,

I have to agree with you.

Even though maxwell pointed out some great info, you busted his true position

which is the one world leader...

nice work...I'd comment some more but I have to run errands..

vampgirl76
06-19-2008, 03:52 AM
perhaps he is talking a load of old cobblers, but i find him intriguing, and i havent spent a penny on any of his work, its all free online!

Alien
08-12-2008, 03:52 PM
I have only looked at some of the links you provided to "expose" Maxwell. I do find a lot of interesting information on his website, yet it does seem like an attempt to convince us that all religions are BS, that there is a hidden agenda behind them all. That would be one of the crucial steps in establishing a new world (order) religion. We must first cease to believe in any/all of the major religions thereby paving the way for the new one. The Da Vinci Code comes to mind too.

I have personally found that some of the biggest alternative forums on the web censor what they allow to be posted on their sites, and although that is necessary for specific circumstances, my posts that have been attacked or removed certainly didn't deserve it. For example, I posted some info about Albert Roy Davis a few years ago on the biggest forum in England (they have a magazine too) and I didn't get one person with an open mind to respond to the post - every single response was nasty or dismissive. Before long it was removed altogether. Generally, this is the info I posted, but I didn't include a link. Exotic Research Report | Vol 3 No 1 | The Scope of Biomagnetism (http://teslatech.net/ttstore/report/articles/v3n1art/scope.htm)

Just recently a post of mine on another large forum was stopped dead in its tracks - and it was about aloe vera of all things. What many people don't know about aloe vera is that it has been shown to have dramatic effects on cancer and AIDS patients. Here is one of the links I posted. Cancer Cover-Up: Aloe-Cancer & AIDS Neal Deoul Battle Against Prostate Cancer(1) (http://www.cancer-coverup.com/fighters/aloe-aids.htm) The administrator said he read on the web that some sites say aloe vera can be deadly so the topic must be ended. He gave a link to a conventional medicine hospital website, and anyone who knows the truth about health care, especially in the U.S. and Europe, knows that what mainstream medicine spouts is far from the truth. So I ask you, what's wrong with this picture?

The forums I posted on specialize in topics like ufo's, conspiracies, secret societies, and alternative medicine, yet there they are, censoring the very information that they supposedly believe in or are supposedly openminded about. So the bottom line is, there are agents of disinformation everywhere, even in some of the forums. If you wanted to contain certain information and/or spread disinformation, where would you go to do it? The answer: the same places that the "informed" people go to discuss and share their ideas. You'd mask yourself as one of them.

makaveli
10-02-2008, 06:16 AM
yeah I used to respect him and like him but even wen I did I was always suspicious cause some of his stuff was just weird. I don't know if people saw the 3 hour speach of him about how religion his bs with the other guy called antony. Altough he presented lots of facts they weren't that convincing that religion is fake. Yet his final arguements why religion is fake which were convincing I later figured out that they were bullshit. It seems he has an agenda on his own. Weird shit.
I espessialy hate how he and the zeitgeist have the need to destroy religion and start to make all sort of connection to hinduism which is completley crap.
Jordan Maxwell said that the hindu Ohm is a sun god. Not truth do your research.
He sais that the god Rham is known for impragneting the earth with his rain. Not truth do your research.
In zeitgesit they say Krisinha was born virgin. His mother head I think 7 children before him with all do respect she is the excact oppisite of a virgin.

Judaism, christianity and islam or in the same cathogory.
Hindusim budhism sikkism jainism are completly different and have absolutly nothing to do with the 3 main world religions. It is obvious to me they try to make a bridge to other hinduism to expose all religion as fake.
And even lots of stuff Jordan talks about Judaism and Christianity is not truth.

This is the perfect strategy: show the uninformed stupid truthseekers some new stuff (symbolism etc) and they become interested and see you as an authority and then you can start talkin disinformation cause most people are to lazy of are not capable of doing good research.

"Somobody better doesn his homework...."
Yeah rite he doesn't want you to do your homework at all.

ClubSodax
11-22-2008, 08:31 AM
Hello. Im new here btw, anyway.

Why should we trust you "Nowheretorun" ? You are doing the same thing as him.

Let us start with the word "christ/christos".

You are saying that Christ does not mean "oil", but just "anoint" but did you even research the word anoint?

Lets start.

Christ is the English (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language) term for the Greek (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_%28language%29) Χριστός (Khristós) meaning "the anointed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anointing)".

Press the word "anoint". You will get ---------->

To anoint is to pour or smear with perfumed oil, milk, water, melted butter or other substances.

Also it says :
Unction is another term for anointing. The oil may be called chrism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrism).

Does it say that "oil" may be called "chrism" (wich looks kinda alike the word "christ/christos")

Lets continue:
The word is known in English since c. 1303 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1303), deriving from Old French enoint "smeared on," pp. of enoindre "smear on," itself from Latin inunguere, from in- "on" + unguere "to smear." Originally it only referred to grease or oil smeared on for medicinal purposes; its use in the Coverdale Bible (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coverdale_Bible) in reference to Christ.

Let us see what it means:
So the word "Anoint" comes from the french word "Enoint" wich orignally reffered to "Grease or oil" smeared on and in the bible anoint/enoint referres to "Christ".

Now, Press the word "Chrism"-------->

You get:
Chrism (Greek word literally meaning "an anointing"), also called "Myrrh" (Myron), Holy oil (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_oil) or "Consecrated Oil," is a consecrated (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consecrated) oil used in the Roman Catholic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholic_Church), Oriental Orthodox (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oriental_Orthodox) and Eastern Orthodox (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Orthodox) churches

So if Chrism also called myrrh or holy oil litterrally mean "an antoining"
and "anoint" wich comes from the french word "enoints" wich means to get greased up with for example oil, it means you are greased up with Christ/christos/chrism, cause "oil" may also be called "Chrism".

I quote again:
"Chrism (Greek word literally meaning "an anointing"

2nd quote: "The oil may be called chrism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrism)."
-------------------------------------------------
(the arrows ">>>" represent what a word means)
-------------------------------------------------
Chrism >>> an anointing
Oil >>> Chrism

so if chrism means an anoiting and oil can be called "Chrism"
That means that oil >>> anoint also.

and if Christ/christos/chrism means "anoint"
and if anoint(chrism) can be called "Oil" and Anoint means "christos"
then Christ can be "oil".

Therfor Christ/christos can mean "oil".

Every heard they say "you must become one with god" ?
Also "jesus christ is the only way to heaven?"

and of course GOD is jesus christ.(in human form)

"Jesus Christ claimed to be God, the Creator of the cosmos, the one and only way by which we can enter into Heaven."

So if you want to become "One" with "God" you must become one with Jesus "christos".

and if christos = oil , how you get one with jesus/god? you grease yourself up with oil .

Now you have become ONE with JESUS aKa God.

(btw im not christian or religious.)

Peace.

justgroovy
11-23-2008, 09:45 AM
welcome aboard ClubSodax =)

ejsanchez92399
11-28-2008, 05:38 PM
Excuse me,

I will like to just interject regarding the following post in this forum. Now, I would like to recommend every single living, thinking, sovereign individual to do the following. I would like to recommend all those individuals who would like enlightenment to audit an Art History 101 class; this will truly enlighten all individuals to mankinds attribution and personification of many myths, etc. Moreover, I would recommend deep research and readings regarding religion and the genesis-if you will-of various stories from antiquity. This will be a truly enriching and enlightening experience for all those who question what they see and are exposed to on a continual basis. Jordan Maxwell may NOT be 100% accurate; however, he does inspire us to search and inquire of OUR history and this will then shed light upon where we are going. So, do your own research-and never take anyone person's word as "the gospel truth"! Whether it may be a hypocritical preacher, politician, or guest of yours. Thank you

Good night, and good luck

CharlotteMary9
12-09-2008, 12:41 PM
Maxwell is interesting to listen to, a good scary storyteller, and doubtless has some true information. But beware obsessiveness--it gets in the way of truth. There was one gentleman on a talk show who talked about the symbols used in U.S. money, monuments, government architecture, etc. He traced a clear, historic line to show how it came about. He said he didn't know why Jordan Maxwell kept insisting on a certain word etymology that clearly was not true. He respected some of Maxwell's research, but Maxwell looks at what he looks at, already knowing what he's going to see. Or rather the motivations behind what he is going to see. He also said once that the evil Masonic intent was to destroy Christianity. And I thought, whoah--that's appears to be on your agenda, bud.
I am only slightly less paranoid towards the "illuminati" than he is, but as I said, obsessiveness and fanaticism are enemies of truth, not proponents. Why on earth does every symbol going have to have been put in place by some nefarious person. Why does he assume that everyone who ever had any influence on such things is out to get everybody else?
Swallowed whole and without discrimination, his info gets toxic.

makaveli
12-31-2008, 11:59 AM
Maxwell is interesting to listen to, a good scary storyteller, and doubtless has some true information. But beware obsessiveness--it gets in the way of truth. There was one gentleman on a talk show who talked about the symbols used in U.S. money, monuments, government architecture, etc. He traced a clear, historic line to show how it came about. He said he didn't know why Jordan Maxwell kept insisting on a certain word etymology that clearly was not true. He respected some of Maxwell's research, but Maxwell looks at what he looks at, already knowing what he's going to see. Or rather the motivations behind what he is going to see. He also said once that the evil Masonic intent was to destroy Christianity. And I thought, whoah--that's appears to be on your agenda, bud.
I am only slightly less paranoid towards the "illuminati" than he is, but as I said, obsessiveness and fanaticism are enemies of truth, not proponents. Why on earth does every symbol going have to have been put in place by some nefarious person. Why does he assume that everyone who ever had any influence on such things is out to get everybody else?
Swallowed whole and without discrimination, his info gets toxic.

what is your view on the bridge he and others are trying to build between the abrahamic religions and the eastern religions??? I'm incredibly frustatrated by this and once saw a woman on youtube who claimed that Krishna was a spin off of horus (which I think is bullshit according to my research) and said that the information wasn't on wikipedia but you had to do 'real' research on location for that shit. So I'm basicaly stuck right here it is very importart for the truth movement to understand the importance of a connection between the abrahamic religions and hinduism since it could almost make or break the entire thesis that all religions are spin offs of horus. If we all concentrate on that and get the truth out we are a step further wouldnn't you agree?

DavidG
01-01-2009, 03:02 PM
I have watched all of Jordan's videos atleast two or three times. Nowheretorun, your name implies giving up hope, and your videos are beyond ridiculous. How dare you come along and try to tarnish a great scholar's image and reputation - someone who's been doing research in these matters for over 50 years, much unlike yourself. I watched SOME of your video several months ago but it was way too incorrect to waste my time on your nonsense. For instance, you imply that Jordan believes they came up with the word ON long ago thinking that we in the future would use it for a light switch, when it's the other way around. We use the word on when we turn on a light switch, because it refers to light, because that's what the word means. To think that so many people actually buy into what you're saying and agree with you is mindboggling to me. I'll entertain your video for a moment again...
So your referencing !Wikipedia! about the oil. In Jordan's video about the chief cornerstone, he references something like twenty encyclopedias. Wikipedia is not even recognized as relevant or acceptable to any college professor. Then you go on to say that he's implying the annointing IS the oil, and that a noun can't be a verb, but what he's saying is that Cristos is the anointing oil, both noun and verb together. You are outright lying and people are actually believing you which makes me pretty irritated. Irritated enough to debunk you on New Years Day. Then you're saying that anoint has nothing to do with sex, but again your sources are nothing. Rather than call him a liar, why don't you ask him where he got his source - his phone number is 818-405-3029 and you can call him ANY time. Record the conversation and make a video about THAT. You could have done that but you didn't - you decided to go out and try to wreck someone's image based on your own non-research of a few DAYS. Then you go on about the volcano, and all the passages you sited could have very easily been interpreted as a volcano. On top of that, you failed to do your homework, obviously because if you did you would understand that Jordan is referring to the VULCAN cult. They believed God was a volcano. This is a whole area of study you obviously don't understand, stellar, saturnian, solar, lunar and other cults comprised the ancient myths that molded into the religions we have today. Then your talking about English and Set. Of course in Egyptian it sounded different. You're missing the whole point - well actually I think with your sly giggle silly Maxwell attitude you're being deliberately misleading and speaking to your listeners as though they were children, unlike Maxwell who speaks to his audience as adults with compassion. There's a big difference in your sarcastic way. They translated his name TO SET in ENGLISH, BECAUSE it was referring to what they called IN ENGLISH: the SUN SET. Then your going to say that Madame Blavatsky is his only source that Judaism comes from Saturn worship which is outright retarded. Have you not been listening to anything he's taught about the black cube of saturn? Have you not seen the many sources other the Madame Blavatsky he has cited. This is an outright deception on your part and I'm not going to watch any more of your stupid video.

DavidG
01-01-2009, 03:39 PM
Ok I couldn't help it because I wanted to expose how else you've been lying to people about Jordan. You imply that he keeps teaching that the mystery religions is the true one in some inspirational moment you had. I'm not even going to go there. What Jordan was saying about SOL-OM-ON if you watch his other videos is that King Solomon OF the Bible didn't exist. In his other video he explains who the real Solomon was - an agent of the Rome. You quote the news saying they have forensic evidence of his body or - what-ever. Lets trust the news? And so you can't find a conotation between Ohm and the sun, so Jordan must be incorrect - because YOU couldn't find a conotation. I googled the words Ohm Sun and found something calling Ohm: the sound of the sun. Perhaps sound emits from the sun? Just because you can't find some 'factual' information handed to you on a silver platter doesn't mean Jordan is wrong. Then you go saying, 'well that's ok because he's lying about that," no - you are. And back to the light switch. People were getting 'on' their horses? Do you not remember Bill Clinton saying, 'that depends on what the definition of is, is?' I think it has something like 18 different meanings. You're calling Jordan stupid? Your video attempt to debunk him, though it has fooled a lot of people, is really a load of poop. That they anticipated the light bulb? What is wrong with you? Ok this time I've really had enough. Poop that is.

CharlotteMary9
01-01-2009, 11:28 PM
what is your view on the bridge he and others are trying to build between the abrahamic religions and the eastern religions??? I'm incredibly frustatrated by this and once saw a woman on youtube who claimed that Krishna was a spin off of horus (which I think is bullshit according to my research) and said that the information wasn't on wikipedia but you had to do 'real' research on location for that shit. So I'm basicaly stuck right here it is very importart for the truth movement to understand the importance of a connection between the abrahamic religions and hinduism since it could almost make or break the entire thesis that all religions are spin offs of horus. If we all concentrate on that and get the truth out we are a step further wouldnn't you agree?

Well, I know "horus" as an entity in Egyptian mythology. I've read about Egyptian mythology casually but am not an expert. Ancient Romans were interested in "Eastern" religions much as westerners nowadays. Somehow the "east" or "Egypt" seemed to offer mysteries that offered answers to mysteries. What do we know of Hinduism? It began many, many centuries ago and currently does not seem to be inspiring a particularly progressive, humane culture. Yes it has some entertaining and spiritual aspects for individuals, but people who think every ill is "karma" will never achieve a society based on seeking justice. How can it? Same with Islam. It was a progressive faith 1500 years ago. Now?

Indeed, neither does Christianity inspire culture as a whole. We are not producing any Michaelangelos or Da Vinicis or Augustines or St. Theresa's. The errors of Dan Brown's pop-culture read are too numerous for comment. He knows what people want to hear and he wrote it down.
Buddhism is neutral if anything. All religions are failing in their primal goal of reanimating the soul and inspiring the minds in a collective, constructive way. The religions aren't wrong, but they began at a time when people were in an earlier stage of evolution. I'm talking only recorded history--perhaps 8,000 years or so. Civilizations have arisen and fallen long before recorded history.
My belief about religions is that religions are evolutionary and the prophets who found them are like channels for the divine word. If they are for real, their teachings will endure. If not, their teachings will never take. Fanaticism and remaining stuck in the past is the great enemy of religion, of humanity and of progress. If religion is the cause of strife and enmity, it is better not have it.
OTOH, I do believe that people need to have spiritual beliefs and guidance, and common beliefs around which they can unite. That is what creates civilization. Science and religion are the wings of a bird--both are necessary. Anyway, Maxwell's take on religion, as on so many aspects of life, is absurdly negative. Evil people have used religion, but Stalin and Pol Pot managed to be quite evil without religion.
I must say--the illuminati and weird factions of Masons are alive and well. I know they infiltrate religions to undermine them by commiting evil deeds. Who is more discouraging and demoralizing than a clergyman or inspirational speaker who turns out to be a child molestor, which seems to be the prime crime of our day. I know of a respected religious speaker who was murdered years ago. Later on I found out that the murder had hallmarks of a kind of rogue masonic execution. Some people were aware he was a homosexual child molestor yet felt powerless to do anything because how to prove it? How could any sane human be such a hypocrite? Perhaps he wasn't sane.
Or perhaps he was. My take is that he was a sort of undercover infiltrator instructed to earn his degrees. Rogue masons/illuminati hate religion and this is how they make their grades--by infilitrating, undermining, destroying. It is not enough for them to go their own atheistic way--they must destroy it for everybody. The worst thing about clubs, religions, oranizations, etc., is secrecy.
So the illuminati is at work, they do evil things, they may be members of a religion. But if the religion survives and inspires a significant number of people then it has something good to offer.

makaveli
01-19-2009, 07:27 AM
love your work jordan maxwell.

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crazy nut
02-25-2009, 08:53 PM
Jordan Maxwell and Hilder are all a part of the scammer (Benny Hinn) road show.

There is good money to be made. I do beleive he beleives what he says though.

Beware anyone grossly over weight telling you they have got the low down. They eat like pigs for a reason. That goes for Alex Jones also.

Haha...I thought the same thing about David Icke

emerson24
03-21-2009, 09:34 PM
Haha...I thought the same thing about David Icke


How does overweight have anything to do with not having credibility? Alex Jones might be overweight because he works full time, has a family and probably spends a fair amount of time doing some of his own research, or at the very least talking with the people who do it for him and getting filled in.

Have you seen pictures of him before he began doing this? The dude was ripped. His appearance has definitely declined since he embarked on this journey.

And the same above can be said about Icke, minus he being ripped part, although he played sports and football, so possibly.

So, what is your correlation about being obese and being a fraud? Sounds to me like you are a person who spreads misinformation.

BlueAngel
03-21-2009, 09:56 PM
Doesn't matter if they're obese or anorexic, they are what they are.

emerson24
03-21-2009, 10:04 PM
And they are what?

My question was how does being obese discredit them? You sure are quick to be the contrarian to recent posts. What is your angle? Or just bored on a Saturday night jumping on anyone who gives credit to something shady going on within the gov?

BlueAngel
03-21-2009, 10:34 PM
And they are what?

My question was how does being obese discredit them? You sure are quick to be the contrarian to recent posts. What is your angle? Or just bored on a Saturday night jumping on anyone who gives credit to something shady going on within the gov?

Being obese doesn't discredit them.

I agreed with you.

They are what they are.

David Icke and Alex Jones.

Whether they are obese or anorexic.

They are what they are.

David Icke and Alex Jones.

What's your angle?

Just bored on a Saturday night and jumping on everyone?

I'm quick draw McGraw.

Didn't jump on you.

I responded to your comment.

That's allowed here.

Darth Cacodaemon
03-26-2009, 02:07 PM
Haha...I thought the same thing about David Icke

David Ike speaks the truth! You sound like you're part of a clique of homosexual Neo-Nazis who are against Ike.
You're just mad because he is revealing the truth. Ike is in deep, my friend, with several sources in M16 and the C.I.A.

Admit it, your a neo-fascist and a member of a group of homosexual Neo-Nazis who oppose the truth being known!!

BlueAngel
04-01-2009, 12:20 AM
David Ike speaks the truth! You sound like you're part of a clique of homosexual Neo-Nazis who are against Ike.
You're just mad because he is revealing the truth. Ike is in deep, my friend, with several sources in M16 and the C.I.A.

Admit it, your a neo-fascist and a member of a group of homosexual Neo-Nazis who oppose the truth being known!!

Oh, yes.

Anyone who doesn't believe in the bullshit that David Icke spews about shape-shifting lizards is a homosexual Neo-Nazi.

You must be a devout follower of Icke.

Jordan Maxwell?

Who the heck is he and why would I or anyone else care about what he has to say?

reptile
04-12-2009, 10:35 AM
You see, there are shape shifting people, today ime a reptilian lizard, to morrow i am GW Bush.

Ok, Maybe not then. :D

The shape shifting bit, is a bit hard to swallow, but you just never know, we are educated by those in charge, the elite, who ever they are, our minds are like a computer hard drive, they are formatted by our education, we can only understand what our education dictates to us.

We were never told as we grew up that such a beast as shape shifting Lizards existed, so obviously we find it hard, if not impossible to believe, its simply the way wee were educated/formatted.

An example, is my dear old Grand father who died, many years ago ago when i was a lad, TV's had not long been around, but i managed to pick something up about possible flights to the moon, so i ran to my Grand farther very exited and told him that some one would soon be going to the moon, he started laughing, and told me that i was being silly, thats impossible he said, take no notice of what them silly buggers tell you, ime telling you now, it cant be done. He really believed that it could not be done, in his days he had not heard only thing of space flight, so he thought it could never happen, his brain had not been educated/formatted with that information.

It just may be the same with us now, regarding shape shifting, you never know.

Any any one here heard of the chupacabra (goat sucker) if you have read or heard the description of it, it matches no known creature on earth, but it does exist.

It is apparently one ugly fother mucker, it has only been seen in recent years, lots of people still say there is no such thing, they can not believe such a thing exists. The first reports i heard were in Mexico, it was seen and captured just out side a town, but the interesting thing is that it was very close to a US base there (shape shifter) having a bad shifting day??? You never know.

Also if you read your Bible you will see that it says they created monsters in that time, Monsters? - Shape shifters? It just might be.

One more thing before i shift back to G W, and get ready for my weekly poker game with my my mate Binny (bin Laden to you guys) an American senator made statement some while back saying that it would be 100 years before the general public got to know about, what is top secret technology used by the Government of today. Technology is 100 years in from of our knowledge, what they have and what they can do, is beyond our comprehension, just like my Grand Father with space flight all those years ago.

I hope this makes some of you guys think a bit more.


Am i saying that i definitely believe in shape shifting? No ime not, but i am saying, that it might be possible.

reptile
04-12-2009, 11:11 AM
You see, there are shape shifting people, today ime a reptilian lizard, to morrow i am GW Bush.

Ok, Maybe not then. :D

The shape shifting bit, is a bit hard to swallow, but you just never know, we are educated by those in charge, the elite, who ever they are, our minds are like a computer hard drive, they are formatted by our education, we can only understand what our education dictates to us.

We were never told as we grew up that such a beast as shape shifting Lizards existed, so obviously we find it hard, if not impossible to believe, its simply the way wee were educated/formatted.

An example, is my dear old Grand father who died, many years ago ago when i was a lad, TV's had not long been around, but i managed to pick something up about possible flights to the moon, so i ran to my Grand farther very exited and told him that some one would soon be going to the moon, he started laughing, and told me that i was being silly, thats impossible he said, take no notice of what them silly buggers tell you, ime telling you now, it cant be done. He really believed that it could not be done, in his days he had not heard only thing of space flight, so he thought it could never happen, his brain had not been educated/formatted with that information.

It just may be the same with us now, regarding shape shifting, you never know.

Any any one here heard of the chupacabra (goat sucker) if you have read or heard the description of it, it matches no known creature on earth, but it does exist.

It is apparently one ugly fother mucker, it has only been seen in recent years, lots of people still say there is no such thing, they can not believe such a thing exists. The first reports i heard were in Mexico, it was seen and captured just out side a town, but the interesting thing is that it was very close to a US base there (shape shifter) having a bad shifting day??? You never know.

Also if you read your Bible you will see that it says they created monsters in that time, Monsters? - Shape shifters? It just might be.

One more thing before i shift back to G W, and get ready for my weekly poker game with my my mate Binny (bin Laden to you guys) an American senator made statement some while back saying that it would be 100 years before the general public got to know about, what is top secret technology used by the Government of today. Technology is 100 years in from of our knowledge, what they have and what they can do, is beyond our comprehension, just like my Grand Father with space flight all those years ago.

I hope this makes some of you guys think a bit more.


Am i saying that i definitely believe in shape shifting? No ime not, but i am saying, that it might be possible.

BlueAngel
04-12-2009, 06:31 PM
You see, there are shape shifting people, today ime a reptilian lizard, to morrow i am GW Bush.

Ok, Maybe not then. :D

The shape shifting bit, is a bit hard to swallow, but you just never know, we are educated by those in charge, the elite, who ever they are, our minds are like a computer hard drive, they are formatted by our education, we can only understand what our education dictates to us.

We were never told as we grew up that such a beast as shape shifting Lizards existed, so obviously we find it hard, if not impossible to believe, its simply the way wee were educated/formatted.

An example, is my dear old Grand father who died, many years ago ago when i was a lad, TV's had not long been around, but i managed to pick something up about possible flights to the moon, so i ran to my Grand farther very exited and told him that some one would soon be going to the moon, he started laughing, and told me that i was being silly, thats impossible he said, take no notice of what them silly buggers tell you, ime telling you now, it cant be done. He really believed that it could not be done, in his days he had not heard only thing of space flight, so he thought it could never happen, his brain had not been educated/formatted with that information.

It just may be the same with us now, regarding shape shifting, you never know.

Any any one here heard of the chupacabra (goat sucker) if you have read or heard the description of it, it matches no known creature on earth, but it does exist.

It is apparently one ugly fother mucker, it has only been seen in recent years, lots of people still say there is no such thing, they can not believe such a thing exists. The first reports i heard were in Mexico, it was seen and captured just out side a town, but the interesting thing is that it was very close to a US base there (shape shifter) having a bad shifting day??? You never know.

Also if you read your Bible you will see that it says they created monsters in that time, Monsters? - Shape shifters? It just might be.

One more thing before i shift back to G W, and get ready for my weekly poker game with my my mate Binny (bin Laden to you guys) an American senator made statement some while back saying that it would be 100 years before the general public got to know about, what is top secret technology used by the Government of today. Technology is 100 years in from of our knowledge, what they have and what they can do, is beyond our comprehension, just like my Grand Father with space flight all those years ago.

I hope this makes some of you guys think a bit more.


Am i saying that i definitely believe in shape shifting? No ime not, but i am saying, that it might be possible.

Sorry, but, just because you think shape-shifting lizards might be a possibility doesn't mean that the rest of us with more than an ounce of intelligence give his theory a second thought.

I am so tired of hearing about David Icke and his shape-shifting lizard theory.

I'm certain that one day, in the not so distant future, that David Icke will be called upon to appear as an expert witness regarding mind control programs.

Yeah.

That's it.

reptile
04-19-2009, 10:52 AM
Sorry, but, just because you think shape-shifting lizards might be a possibility doesn't mean that the rest of us with more than an ounce of intelligence give his theory a second thought.

I am so tired of hearing about David Icke and his shape-shifting lizard theory.

I'm certain that one day, in the not so distant future, that David Icke will be called upon to appear as an expert witness regarding mind control programs.

Yeah.

That's it.

A little something to think about Mr Einstein sir, when your one step in front of the crowd, your a genius, when your two steps in front your a lunatic.

And a little ditty they you may learn from, once you realise that you don't know everything.

The young bull, says to the old bull, hey man shall we run down that field there and screw one of those cows.

The old bull, says to the young bull, no man, well walk down and screw them all.

Redman811
05-15-2009, 02:41 AM
One of the funniest things I find amongst some of the people that discredit things like shape shifting is that they believe in a god that exist in a book written by people that never met him.

Heyoka
09-23-2009, 06:37 AM
Well done Redman for your voice of reason... of course relgion is one of the biggest conspiracies on the planet, and whilst I take the points raised about some of maxwells claims, I'd far rather believe him than soe of those who claim to refute his points, as they tend to be creationists, Nuff said!:p

Collective
10-25-2009, 10:42 AM
Ok I couldn't help it because I wanted to expose how else you've been lying to people about Jordan. You imply that he keeps teaching that the mystery religions is the true one in some inspirational moment you had. I'm not even going to go there. What Jordan was saying about SOL-OM-ON if you watch his other videos is that King Solomon OF the Bible didn't exist. In his other video he explains who the real Solomon was - an agent of the Rome. You quote the news saying they have forensic evidence of his body or - what-ever. Lets trust the news? And so you can't find a conotation between Ohm and the sun, so Jordan must be incorrect - because YOU couldn't find a conotation. I googled the words Ohm Sun and found something calling Ohm: the sound of the sun. Perhaps sound emits from the sun? Just because you can't find some 'factual' information handed to you on a silver platter doesn't mean Jordan is wrong. Then you go saying, 'well that's ok because he's lying about that," no - you are. And back to the light switch. People were getting 'on' their horses? Do you not remember Bill Clinton saying, 'that depends on what the definition of is, is?' I think it has something like 18 different meanings. You're calling Jordan stupid? Your video attempt to debunk him, though it has fooled a lot of people, is really a load of poop. That they anticipated the light bulb? What is wrong with you? Ok this time I've really had enough. Poop that is.
I just watched it, to be fair, he does show Maxwell to have some seriously flawed information there.

But what worries me is he could not debunk what Maxwell taught about 'sun' worship and 'astro theology' in the bible. Read thse notes I made in watching a 2 hoour 20 minute presentation:

Time 28.46
Subject All our western religions developed in the Northern hemisphere – not southern.

Time 30.12
Subject 6,000 years ago the greatest enemy would could ever face was darkness. Consequently the greatest gift was the sun. the bringer of light and giver of life.

Time 32.45
Subject God’s sun belongs to God. And God’s sun was ‘the light of the world’.

Time 33.04
Subject God’s sun is in the sky. Another word for Sky is heaven. God’s sun resides up in heaven.

Time 33.36
Subject In ancient Egypt the sun was referred to as ‘our risen saviour’. God’s sun is giving its energy to us. God’s sun is giving us life through its life.

Time 35.03
Subject Sun in morning called ‘new born sun’; or Horus. Horus was the risen saviour, the risen one. Horus rising = Horizon. God so loved the world he gave his only begotten sun (there is only one sun)

Time 36.17
Subject Horus the sun walked across the sky in 12 steps. We took the word Horus and came up with 12 Hours.

Time 37.24
Subject Sun brought light into the world. Light in Latin is Lucius (Luke Skywalker!).

Time 37.50
Subject In EgyptSet the ‘prince of darkness’ came out to rule the world at night, at sun-set.

Time 38.10
Subject The evil that ruled over the night. Devil is simply evil with a ‘d’ in front of it. God is from the German Gut = Good. Simply the word good with one less o.

Time 38.45
Subject The basis for all religion throughout the world is basically the war between daylight and dark.

Time 40.00
Subject Jesus is a metaphor, a symbolic metaphor for something. Ancient Greek name for Horus was Iesus. You can interchange ‘I’ and ‘J’. So Iesus becomes Jesus. And Jesus is the sun which is why we worship on ‘Sun’ day.

Time 40.50
Subject Jesus said he would leave this world (in the hands of the prince of darkness) and come back. The sun comes back every morning.

Time 47.45
Subject Abraham’s first name was Abram. Ab = Father and Ram = the Ram, the constellation of Aries the ram.The children of Israel worshipped the golden calf. The Golden calf was the sun in the age of Taurus (the bull).

Time 50.00 – 53.10
Subject Jesus arrested at the temple at night time for sedition. The choice to choose enlightenment/life or ignorance/death/darkness. Temple = mind/brain, Golgotha = place of the skull. Jesus (enlightenment) dies between 2 thieves (1: regret for the past and 2: fear of the future).

Time 53.13
Subject Crown of thorns. When the sun sets, on the horizon, you can see its sun rays. These rays represent a crown of thorns. Sun rays = crown of thorns.

Time 54.13 – 56.42
Subject The numbers 13 and 12. Zodiac has 12 houses. Both the Old and New Testament is nothing more than astrology, or Astro-theology. Kingdom = zodiac. I need proof/evidence that kingdom means zodiac.

Time 58.00
Subject Job 38: 31 - 33
Job 38:31 "Can you bind the chains of the Pleiades or loose the cords of Orion?
Job 38:32 Can you lead forth the Mazzaroth in their season, or can you guide the Bear with its children?
Job 38:33 Do you know the ordinances of the heavens? Can you establish their rule on the earth?” Mazzaroth = zodiac. God is saying where were you when I created the zodiac?

Time 59.50
Subject Lord comes from Lard. Lard is grease, grease is oil, and oil is Kristos. In Greek Kristos is where Pillsbury gets cooking oil called Krisco. Krisco is Christo and Christo is Christ. Oil congealed is called Lard.

Time 61.30
Subject The church says Astrology is evil because they don’t want you to know what they know. That they/we are guided by the zodiac.

Time 61.50
Subject Why did Jesus feed his followers with 2 fish? Because the 2 fish represent Pisces. The pope’s mitre/hat is a fish mouth.

Time 62.10
Subject 1st day of summer the sun is directly overhead in our northern hemisphere. The constellation that begins summer is called Leo. Sun called the Lion King. So the Lion King is the sun in the constellation of Leo the Lion. The Lion of the tribe of Judah. Consequently 3 months later, the sun enters into autumn or the fall (the ‘fall’ because the sun was standing straight and is now falling). Each day from the 1st day of summer the Lion King (sun) moves 1 degree southward every day until it hits (3 months/90 days later) the 90 degree, it is now passing over the equator. Heading south. 3 months later, and 90 degrees more, the sun ends up at the lowest part in our southern sky. For 3 days once it reaches the lowest part, it’s called the winter solstice 22ndrd it rises at the same degree, and on the 24th, same degree. So for 3 days the sun is dead in its tomb. 25th December the sun moves 1 degree northward, so the sun is moving again. The sun is born again: It is now beginning its northern journey back to the northern hemisphere. As it gets to that half way point again we call it spring, because he was a lion king in summer, he was fallen in autumn, he was dead in winter, but now he was springing back to life in spring. December. 23

Time 65.35
Subject In the ancient world when people died (like the sun died in December), they say ‘he/she passed’. We say the same thing ‘he/she passed away’. Means death/dying. Ancient Egyptians say ‘he/she passed over from the east of the Nile to the west of the Nile’. Into the next world.

Time 67.00
Subject Ancient peoples thousands of years before Hebrews existed celebrated the 1st week of spring and they called it the ‘passover’. The passover is the sun passing over the equator on its way back to the northern hemisphere. And once it reaches the northern hemisphere at the Passover it’s in the constellation in the ancient zodiac of Virgo – so he is born of a virgin. The 1st week of spring was called the Passover because the dead sun of winter is now passing over into a new life in spring. Christians who want nothing to do with Jewish customs call it the resurrection.

Time 68.50
Subject 1st week of spring sees the Christian Easter sunrise service. Celebrating the rising of the son. Sun rise? Sun worship? Easter = Ishtar.

Time 69.55
Subject Sun in morning = new born sun, sun at mid day, 12 noon = the most high because sun is at its highest point.

Time 70.15
Subject 3 different positions the sun holds in the life of men: new born, full grown and old dying man (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit). Trinity is nothing more than the sun and its 3 phases in man’s life.

Time 72.50
Subject 360 dots (or degrees) around a circle. You can divide the circle into 4 quarters. The quarters represent Matthew, Mark, Luke and John Spring, Summer, Autumn and Winter). Circle on a cross because the cross is the cross of the zodiac (N,E,S and W) and the sun dies on the cross (Zodiac).

Time 76.40
Subject Judas kissed Jesus not to identify him but to betray him. Judas represents the 1st month of Fall/Autumn. 1st week of fall/autumn is the constellation of Scorpio. Scorpio is the ‘backbiter’. In the ancient world had 2 stingers, when the sting, the cut looks like human lips. Hence the kiss of death. Scorpio gives God’s sun/son the kiss of death and now he is going to fall/die into winter (Sun dies on the cross).

Time 80.18
Subject 1st week of spring (passover/easter). Cana (now Israel/Lebanon) in the ancient world celebrated easter/passover but called it the marriage feast of Cana (celebration of spring). The marriage of God the Father and Mother Earth. The Father would impregnate Mother Earth/Nature with the sacred fluid, bringing life to the earth (ancient Hindu called this fluid rain). Mother Nature (Mary) asks God’s son/sun (Jesus) to draw water (which the sun does), so it can rain on the grapes and thus make wine. Turning water into wine at the great marriage feast of Cana.

Time 83.25
Subject Heavens to the Phoenicians were known as the temple of God. Heavens declare the temple of God. In my Father’s house are many mansions – this is incorrect. The original says ‘In my Father’s abode are many houses’. 12 houses of the zodiac. Last supper = last passover meal. Moses brought the age of Aries (the ram). Last passover represents the last year in the particular sign and the next year begins a new sign = the age of Aquarius?

Time 85.52
Subject Why be baptized? When born you came out of Mother’s water (waters broke). So born again is being born again from Mother Nature’s water.

Time 86.30
Subject Last days and end times of what? Last days of the age of Pisces (2 fish – Jesus is called the great fisherman). What is the new age?

Luke 22:10 He said to them, "Behold, when you have entered the city, a man carrying a jar of water will meet you. Follow him into the house that he enters

The man with the water pitcher, the house of the man with the water pitcher? This is the house of Aquarius. The symbol of Aquarius is of a man carrying a pitcher of water. It was unheard of for a man in the ancient world to carry a pitcher of water. Women did this. We are leaving the 2,000 year age of Pisces and entering into the next 2,000 year period: the age of Aquarius.

To be fair, half the movie is just Maxwell lecturing (I.e. not actually debunking anything), but what the producer does show, is that we should not take everything Maxwell says as truth. No way.

makaveli
11-04-2009, 02:45 PM
Well done Redman for your voice of reason... of course relgion is one of the biggest conspiracies on the planet, and whilst I take the points raised about some of maxwells claims, I'd far rather believe him than soe of those who claim to refute his points, as they tend to be creationists, Nuff said!:p

Altough I agree lots of religions (most notable the abrahamic) are created by the illuminati Jordan Maxwel is a complete idiot. He is constantly spreading disinformation. Never listen to him everything is just one big mistake. Rather to research our your own.