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stompk
03-03-2008, 04:40 AM
I have thought for some time that our credit score (average) is the Mark of the Beast.

I may have to adjust that thought, and get a bit more specific.
It popped into my mind that VI = 6 in the Roman numeral system.

So I went on the net to see what I could find. Where there are other
people who think the same!

The "S" could stand for sigma, the small version, which does mean 6
There is a little know assassin group called 6Sigma. Google them.

The "A" has been more difficult. Most say it is Babylonian for 6. This
has been hard to prove. I suggest it also could stand for a pyramid, which
loosely can be intrepreted as 6. The Hebrew letter Tau also comes to mind.

I would be welcome to suggestions on this one, as I continue to search. I
know it's there, because I'm sure I'm on the right path. I tell you why.

The word Visa, means to mark, or approve. When you get a passport overseas,
you need to get a stamp from the US embassy, or Visa. The word stems from Latin
(Freemasons love Latin) which is visia, or visible, approved.

Also, VISA the credit card company, is working hard on bioID and Bio Creditmark systems
that are just to close the the bible's explanation of the mark.

Check some of these out.
http://www.visa.ca/en/merchant/logostrademarks/downloads/VisaBrandMark.pdf
Veripay Credit-Card Implant: Science Fiction in the News (http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/Science-Fiction-News.asp?NewsNum=20)
Bio-chip implant arrives <br>for cashless transactions (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35766)

As we a pushed harder and harder towards a cashless society, and we see bioChips being implanted in soldiers to monitor their "health"

The Department of Defense is planning to implant microchips in soldiers' brains for monitoring their health information, and has already awarded a $1.6 million contract to the Center for Bioelectronics, Biosensors and Biochips (C3B) at Clemson University for the development of an implantable "biochip".

Soldiers fear that the biochip, about the size of a grain of rice, which measures and relays information on soldiers vital signs 24 hours a day, can be used to put them under surveillance even when they are off duty.

Source: Pentagon to implant microchips in soldiers' brains (http://www.inteldaily.com/?c=166&a=2957)

and commercials
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Does life really take VISA??

The VISA Chaordic
or The Beast

A staff of less than a thousand scattered throughout the world coordinated this system as it skyrocketed past a hundred billion dollars a year. They received modest salaries and could never acquire wealth for their services. Yet, without consultants, those people selected the VISA name and completed the largest trademark conversion in commercial history in a third the time anticipated. And they built the prototype of the present communications systems in ninety days for less than $25,000; systems that now clear more electronic transactions in a week than the entire U.S. Federal Reserve system does in a year.

Source:OtherWise Dee Hock - The Birth of the Chaordic Century: Out of Control and Into Order (Part 1 of 2) (http://www.parshift.com/Speakers/Speak009.htm)

ol_seabee
03-03-2008, 06:35 PM
I think Great Britain runs the U.S and Freemasonry

According to the "Ring of Power" documentary, Queen Elizabeth II has personal bankers that run everything from the City of London

According to me, the masonic compass and square are the star of david

the star of david is the mark of the beast

Draw 3 lines from opposed points through the star of david and it makes 18 shapes, 6 + 6 + 6,, also note the crucifixion cross and the X over the exact center.

The Star of David is the mark of the beast and masonic debt slavery is the beast itself and david rottschild the banker is the anti-christ

debt slavery:mad:

stompk
03-04-2008, 04:21 AM
The Queen rides the beast. But the mark of the beast is a mark of a system.

A system where no one can buy or sell without it. And a mark, that represents
the name of the system

A trademark. Because, after all, we are just property, of a system.
An asset. Collateral.

Once you become an asset, you get a birth certificate.
Once you are no longer an asset, you get a death certificate.

When you are born, you get a social SECURITY number.

If you want to go to a different country, you have to get a passport.

They will give you a Pass, to go to another Port. Because they want to
keep track of their asset.

stompk
03-04-2008, 09:03 AM
Just found this interesting website.
ITS ALREADY HERE 666=VISA (http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?noframes;read=70428)

Sheesh...Cassiopaean day at STA. This is from the October 16, 1994 session:

SNIP

Q: (L) What is the meaning of the number 666 in the book of
Revelation?
A: Visa.
Q: (L) You mean as in credit card?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Are credit cards the work of what 666 represents?
A: Yes?
Q: (L) Should we get rid of all credit cards?
A: Up to you.
Q: (L) Would it be more to our advantage than not to disconnect
ourselves from the credit system?
A: Isn't just credit also debit.
Q: (L) Is that an affirmative.
A: How are you going to do this?
Q: (L) Well, do you have any suggestions?
A: World will soon have nothing but credit and debit have you not
heard of this new visa debit cards this is the future of money as
controlled by the world banking system i.e. the brotherhood i.e.
Lizards i.e. antichrist.
Q: (L) If I don't have a credit card then I don't have to belong to this
system?
A: No. You will have no choices: belong or starve.
Q: (L) What happened to free will?
A: Brotherhood AKA Lizards AKA antichrist has interfered with free
will for 309000 years. They are getting desperate as we near the
change.



Check out this new VISA passport. It even has VISA in capital letters, and
looks like money
http://international.cua.edu/images/visa.gif

stompk
03-05-2008, 07:47 AM
http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=3702181847213988991&hl

ol_seabee
03-05-2008, 07:28 PM
this site sucks

I just lost a 10 minute rant waylaying that ridiculous religious clip:mad:

ol_seabee
03-05-2008, 07:29 PM
All money is issued as interest bearing debt

banks extend credit<<< all money comes from here

ol_seabee
03-05-2008, 07:32 PM
There is not enough money in circulation to even come close top paying off the national debt


We need to deport all the immigrants

fix and make sovereign our money system

and restrict exports

and recreate our means of production since international merchants have stolen ours and taken it overseas:mad:

ol_seabee
03-05-2008, 07:38 PM
they started the federal reserve in 1913

they caused the roaring twenties with credit

then they called in the loans and stole our family farms and industries

they killed us off and ran up the national debt in viet nam

they raised interest rates to 13% from 1978 - 1990 as they exported our jobs and opened up the borders

then they gave expansionary lines of credit to illegal immigrants

How do upwardly mobile workers compete in a supply and demand market place against immigrants that get FREE MONEY without bankrupting themselves also

Merchants took America over with credit

it's that simple so you can talk all the religious love mumbo jumbo all you like

ol_seabee
03-05-2008, 07:45 PM
Northern Ireland was England's first colony

King James took it over by military force

then he brought in scottish, english and french people to run the territory as a plantation raising sheep for wool

The native irish worked for the newcomers

the newcomers are called scotch irish nowadays because they are scottish but they lived in northern ireland for 100 years before coming to America in the early 1700s

about 1/2 the "irish" people in America today are really scottish and they don't even know it

the propaganda would have everybody think that we all just stepped off the boat

in reality we've been here for 400 years

they brought us over here from england starting around 1605 as indentured servants

the national debt is a national indenture and they will have us paying on it FOREVER until they use it to create the NWO

ol_seabee
03-05-2008, 07:50 PM
merchants set it all up

colonies,,, it's always been about cheap labor

it was chinese tea thrown from an english merchant ship into boston harbor

As a free and independent sovereign nation we gave ourselves in our constitution the right to issue our own money

that constitutional right has been given away and the government knows it

there is an artificial shortage of money (deficits) created by the system OF CREDIT and they use this artificial shortage of money to convince people that "American workers expect too much pay"

"we need cheaper labor"

"the unions are the cause of investor worries" etc divide and conquer

ol_seabee
03-05-2008, 07:58 PM
so we bring in all these spanish immigrants and they come here with nothing

before long they have cars, watches jewelry radios computers and all of it made overseas

I know a $6.00 hr honduran single woman with $1.4 miilion in mortgage debt on 2 homes that cost her about $900,000........... she refinanced a bunch of free money out of our banking system......ever notice that home prices are very high where the hispanic immigrants live????

It's because the banks give them free money as loans and then give them more and more and more

they've been given free money to help destroy America's families and the religious people have the nerve to say it's part of God's plan:mad::mad::mad:

ol_seabee
03-05-2008, 08:04 PM
It's easy with common sense to figure out what God's plan really is

God created man woman children. God created the family

and separate lands

Marriage is when a man and a woman have a baby

there is no such thing as "gay marriage"

we should take care of ourselves and protect ourselves at the borders

It's come to the point where people aren't able to pay off their homes

And with modern technology affording us much higher production rates

wood for homes grow out of the ground naturally

So what is with the 30 year amortized mortgage insurance and taxes if not slavery?:(

ol_seabee
03-05-2008, 08:06 PM
We are being used as commodities by international merchants

ol_seabee
03-06-2008, 11:07 AM
The merchants ask a premium price for their goods and the banking system enables people to buy more than they can afford,, more than our economy can afford

bankrupting many who just are trying to get by

They need a car, house clothes etc and by the merchants keeping everything expensive this forces MANY into bankruptcy and keeps them poor and servants to the managing class

debt slavery oppression

according to the movie, "ring of power" the hexagram, "star of david" was the rottschild bankers symbol

It's the DEBT system that's evil

they bankrupt us on purpose and destroy our families:mad:

JFK was issuing silver backed money that would circulate in the economy, I guess they would just spend it into circulation

I'm surprised most older people seem satisfied with the way things are

maybe it's the 11% CD rates the collected off my generation:mad:

ol_seabee
03-06-2008, 10:04 PM
I just lost another lengthy post so I'm outa here

Money comes from one place BANKS!

All money is issued as interest bearing debt

When our govt needs money they do not issue it anymore instead they issue bonds and sell the bonds to the privately owned federal reserve banks

this is called "monetizing the debt" and this is where the national debt come from,,, our gov borrows every nickel

Our trade partners banks work in a similar fashion

commercial banks also create money out of thin air through "fractional reserve lending" and issue/loan it to us as interest bearing debt

this creates deficits that cannot be repaid period!

they bankrupt us on purpose

When china "buys our debt" it is THEIR BANKS who buy our debt with CREDIT

The fed banks decide when and how much of our debt to sell them

merchant bankers are behind it all

goodbye

stompk
03-07-2008, 04:28 AM
We are being used as commodities by international merchants

Interesting you point this out.

Hidden Knowledge

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If a King is ruler of a Kingdom
is a Wizard ruler of Wisdom?

stompk
03-18-2008, 11:20 AM
I see an aggressive takeover coming from VISA.

TheLucifer
03-18-2008, 01:27 PM
Mark of the beast =
1. The Great Seal of the USA (the eye in the capstone) hence SEALED
2. The bar code (666)
Mark in the forehead =
1. Think for (minions)
2. Think with (patriots/copper tops)
Mark in the Right hand =
1. To fight for
2. To work for

The Great Seal (the eye in the capstone) is on the back of the Dollar Bill, the most handled piece of paper in the world.
The Beast is in Washington D.C., the compass that has HORNS on it.
The head of the beast is the Capital bldg on Capital Hill.

In the temptation story Satan is on a “hill”, that hill in reality is Capital Hill (where the head of the beast is !!!), capitalize by bowing to the D.C. beast Satan.
In the Capital bldg there is a Prayer room, in this room there is a stained glass mural (as you face it you are facing East) that shows the pyramid/Eye of Providence (Satan) at the top with George Washington under it kneeling/bowing in prayer !!!

To see this beast and the prayer room and other pics click the link

img1.jpg - Image - Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting (http://photobucket.com/albums/ee60/thelucifer_rp/?action=view&current=img1.jpg)

Do a google search for Aaron Russo and watch his film America From Freedom to Fascism, its a MUST see.
Here is a link for it, America: Freedom to Fascism - Director's Authorized Version (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173)
Watch the interviews with Aaron that are on google as well.

stompk
04-03-2008, 06:00 AM
Mark of the beast =
1. The Great Seal of the USA (the eye in the capstone) hence SEALED
2. The bar code (666)
Mark in the forehead =
1. Think for (minions)
2. Think with (patriots/copper tops)
Mark in the Right hand =
1. To fight for
2. To work for

The Great Seal (the eye in the capstone) is on the back of the Dollar Bill, the most handled piece of paper in the world.
The Beast is in Washington D.C., the compass that has HORNS on it.
The head of the beast is the Capital bldg on Capital Hill.

In the temptation story Satan is on a “hill”, that hill in reality is Capital Hill (where the head of the beast is !!!), capitalize by bowing to the D.C. beast Satan.
In the Capital bldg there is a Prayer room, in this room there is a stained glass mural (as you face it you are facing East) that shows the pyramid/Eye of Providence (Satan) at the top with George Washington under it kneeling/bowing in prayer !!!

To see this beast and the prayer room and other pics click the link

img1.jpg - Image - Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting (http://photobucket.com/albums/ee60/thelucifer_rp/?action=view&current=img1.jpg)

Do a google search for Aaron Russo and watch his film America From Freedom to Fascism, its a MUST see.
Here is a link for it, America: Freedom to Fascism - Director's Authorized Version (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173)
Watch the interviews with Aaron that are on google as well.


Sorry, but you are not revealing anything new or hidden here.

stompk
04-22-2008, 05:11 AM
The ticker symbol for VISA is V, which in occult stands for Apophis.
Blessings (http://perdurabo10.tripod.com/id1340.html)


In valleys of inconcrete spirituality,
In places consecrated to the Snake,
In the region of the sun and beasts of prey
There arises a new god.
Like Phoenix from the ashes he raises out of ruins,
Strengthened by endless sorrows inflicted upon him.
In new, re-established power transferred to him by his new figure,
He lives, our rejuvenated Serpent God.

The ages of the sun and fire, of light and joy are gone.
APOPHIS founds his realm of Darkness
In the middle of the world of light.

In his hands the signs of power and of immortality,
His body is strongly erected upon his feet.
Covered with a coat of evil craft
The cause of former weakness is shaken off.

Join this sombre world
It is right beyond your reason.
Ordinary man, behold,
See APOPHIS arise.

He fights the Gods of the Sun in their own realm
To found the force of blood, death and darkness.

Aspis, Basilisk, Illuyanka, Midgards-Ormr,
Kaikai-filu, Ruye, Kaliya, arise!
Leave your reason, go beyond,
Enlighten yourself in Darkness.

http://www.lyricstime.com/apophis-reincarnation-of-the-serpent-god-lyrics.html

BlueAngel
04-22-2008, 09:24 PM
The only beast that exists is the one that they've implanted in your mind.

Free it!!!!

seer2012
04-23-2008, 04:51 PM
From what I understand, the official "translation" of the original book of Revelations is that 666 is "the number of a man" or "a human number".
It would seem that ol' John the revelator was talking about a person.

KennyWally
05-05-2008, 05:09 PM
"" Is VISA the 666 Mark?
I have thought for some time that our credit score (average) is the Mark of the Beast. ""


Ya know, that satan is a crafty dirtbag and there will be things done to confuse us about the truth of the matter.

Do you actually think, that The Lord cares about some stinking barcode or similar silliness like your credit score? [ I do think there are 666 clues around us, that point to things related to the beast, but the beast is a political entity ]

What I've found is, that the Mark in the head, is about how you think about something, and the mark on the hand, is about your labor.

You must keep in mind, that there are people working on "sunday" laws, where no work shall be done on sundays at all, and to add to that could be WORK [ as in mandatory ] on saturday [ the real sabbath ]. Why does that matter? Do you recall the commandment to keep the sabbath holy? Yeah, I'm fully aware of what "the church" has done to change that, but what they've done is not scriptural at all....we are no better off now, than they were when martin luther posted his note on the church door.

People violating either one will be subjected to whatever screwed up law that will exist at that time. right now, it is an option...but in the future, it will be law, and for those who know the scriptures, the day of being tested for your faith will have arrived!

I think the v-chip is probably a clue, but I don't think the Lord will condemn you for wanting to earn a living and eating, but on the other hand, the state loves to punish people for violating screwed up laws. So I think that screwed up sunday laws and accompanying labor laws that force people to rest on the 1st day of the week, sunday, and also labor on saturday, the real sabbath [ which we all should be honoring ] is going to be the real test of what we are made of when it comes to honoring Gods law.

stompk
05-28-2008, 06:00 AM
I think Jesus saw the future, and gave John Revelation to warn our present
generation of how they are bringing about global slavery.

Jesus gave it to John in such a way that it would only fit at the current
time.

Read the words carefully. Everything fits to a T.

Numbers, symbols, scores, marks

Credit score trademark.

KennyWally
05-28-2008, 06:54 PM
I guess I didn't answer your question....but


www does = 666.... don't take my word for it, just look up the hebrew alphabet and look up the corresponding numbers for each letter, then you'll see it for yourself.

and there ARE THREE divisions on a standard barcode for reference points for the reader, and each one is a 6. [ sorry, no link ]

I'm not sure about your visa, but the stuff I mentioned and lots more, well, these are clues, but not "THE" mark of the beast. "THE" mark, is something else altogether, and not even physical.

BlueAngel
05-28-2008, 09:42 PM
They like to create mysteries for people to solve so WE will spend OUR time trying to figure it all out while the "corrupters" go about their business and agenda of stripping us of every last freedom we know.

You know, keeping us out of their hair and occupied.

Everyone loves a good mystery.

Keeps you guessing.

Just what they want.

This is not unlike the DISINFORMATION TACTICS they use on mind control victims.

Keeps your head spinning trying to solve the mystery and ascertain the truth while picking through all the garbage they dump out there for you to feed on.

They desire to create poverty, disease and famine until we are all living in squalor and are a third world country.

They will use us up and will spit us out.

This is their MO.

Strip every country of ever resource she has.

You know, keeping us occupied and out of their hair.

In this way, I say it is not to the betterment of the "conspiracy theorists" to spend much time trying to fit all of the signs, symbols, etc. together as if you are working on a jigsaw puzzle attempting to see the perfect picture.

That will never happen.

To keep yourself involved in what truly is happening around you; being robbed at the gas pumps; people dying in Iraq for no reason; our children being subjected to "sexual" programming; autism on the rise, etc. are the very real issues that our country faces.

To speak about these atrocities. To write letters. To teach your children to speak out.

I really wouldn't care if they issued a six hundred and sixty six dollar bill.

Remember, they are masters at MYSTERY from Babylon times.

KennyWally
05-30-2008, 02:10 PM
"" To speak about these atrocities. To write letters. To teach your children to speak out.

I really wouldn't care if they issued a six hundred and sixty six dollar bill.

Remember, they are masters at MYSTERY from Babylon times. ""



I couldn't agree more......

AALEYAH
10-09-2008, 01:49 AM
The Queen rides the beast. But the mark of the beast is a mark of a system.

A system where no one can buy or sell without it. And a mark, that represents
the name of the system

A trademark. Because, after all, we are just property, of a system.
An asset. Collateral.

Once you become an asset, you get a birth certificate.
Once you are no longer an asset, you get a death certificate.

When you are born, you get a social SECURITY number.

If you want to go to a different country, you have to get a passport.

They will give you a Pass, to go to another Port. Because they want to
keep track of their asset.

I rarely come across a post on a forum that actually makes me think.
Yours has just done that.

Thank you.

stompk
10-09-2008, 06:28 PM
I rarely come across a post on a forum that actually makes me think.
Yours has just done that.

Thank you.

Your welcome.

You will find this interesting then.


(October 3, 2008) Just a week ago, it looked like MasterCard Inc. was about to win a battle in its ongoing debit card war with market leader Visa Inc. MasterCard stalwart Citigroup Inc. had struck a deal to buy, with help from the government, most of struggling Wachovia Corp.’s banking assets
...
This latest twist, should it overcome reported objections from Citi, follows the earlier announcement by United Kingdom-based Royal Bank of Scotland that it would convert its MasterCard debit portfolios in the U.K. and U.S. to Visa, and a transaction engineered by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. in which Visa-leaning JPMorgan Chase & Co. bought the banking assets of the failed Washington Mutual Inc.
...
Excluding PIN-only ATM cards, Wells will have an estimated 25 million network-branded debit cards once the deal closes and will strengthen its hold on the No. 2 debit issuer spot behind Bank of America Corp.

http://www.digitaltransactions.net/newsstory.cfm?newsid=1935

stompk
01-18-2010, 08:16 AM
bump

HagarHorrible
03-23-2010, 08:38 AM
From what I understand, the official "translation" of the original book of Revelations is that 666 is "the number of a man" or "a human number".
It would seem that ol' John the revelator was talking about a person.

Ditto, 666 is our DNA!!!!. From Kryon ....

jojogun
05-24-2010, 11:50 AM
I think you have some good points but the direction I see it going in is this. I think we will first go to one currency (maybe the euro)) and then to a cashless society, where they will either implant a chip in your hand with your banking information in it.... That way you just simply wave your hand over a scanner and it reads your chip and there's less chance of losing your information. Or maybe something similar. Maybe a bar code imprinted on your hand. That would be taking the number of the beast also, according to the bible. If you reject taking the chip or bar code you would not be able to buy anything and that would definitely define a system designed by evil people. Namely, the antichrist.

ibeme
05-24-2010, 12:21 PM
Visa today....Microchips tomorow?

thirtythree
10-11-2010, 03:54 PM
The Queen rides the beast. But the mark of the beast is a mark of a system.

A system where no one can buy or sell without it. And a mark, that represents
the name of the system

A trademark. Because, after all, we are just property, of a system.
An asset. Collateral.

Once you become an asset, you get a birth certificate.
Once you are no longer an asset, you get a death certificate.

When you are born, you get a social SECURITY number.

If you want to go to a different country, you have to get a passport.

They will give you a Pass, to go to another Port. Because they want to
keep track of their asset.


Lets not forget the creation of the federal Incometax Act.

LoudAmerican
10-25-2011, 06:33 AM
... back in the 70's I had sent off for a copy of my Social Security Card

on the back in the lower corner were 9 red colored digits other than my Social Security Number

Social Security Number is 9 digits also 9 plus 9 = 18

6+6+6 = 18 .... too late y'all! ... we done been got!