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stompk
04-20-2008, 12:38 PM
<size = 4> I feel cheated, violated </size>

I supported this Baphomet loving man and his family. Yuk.

I was just in a debate on the Daily Paul forum, when someone close to Ron Paul came out and admitted his wife is a member of the Eastern Star. To be a member of the Eastern Star, you have to have a husband that is a Mason.

Check it out.


Liberty Oak Ranch

Quit using Ron Paul as a forum for your bigotted beliefs. You don't know anything about him or his ideals obviously. You also know nothing about the Freemason or Eastern Star organizations.

1. Ron Paul's father was a Freemason and Dr. Paul has said himself many times that he respects the organization and has been to many of the open meetings in his district. I should know, I was his scheduler for ten years.

2. His wife, Carol is a member of the Velasco Order of the Eastern Star and maintains her membership in the Freeport area lodge.

3. Their daughters, Lori and Joy, were both Rainbow girls, another organization associated with Freemasonry.

Your hatefilled retoric regarding a benevolent, Biblically based organization is likened to those who have a fear of the unknown. It spawns lies and hate toward those who are innocent and have done good for others. Just try taking your child to the Shriner's burn or crippled childrens hospital. They will take care of your child regardless of your ignorance and will do it free of charge. How many people has your paranoia helped?

Freemasonry is evil. |Daily Paul (http://www.dailypaul.com/node/46310)

Update: The above link no longer works for me, so I don't know if the thread exists anymore. They deleted several of my
threads at the daily paul, and now I am banned from the site.

It's funny, talked about all sort of things in that forum. Moon hoax, electrons, things I've posted here, but when you start
talking about the freemasons, you get banned. Just like ATS. And they remove all of my posts about mason in the Christian
Forums.

Thanks Club Conspiracy.

redrat11
04-21-2008, 09:17 PM
ron paul is the best congress person America has ever had. And no one has yet to prove he is involved in freemasonry.

stompk
04-22-2008, 04:21 AM
BS.

It was was of Ron Pauls inside people who said this, now the thread is unavailable

They act like the guy is Jesus, just like the Masons intended.

The truth is, alot of the Ron Paul fans are gun toting white supremicists
who jumped on board when Paul dissed Lincoln.

When I stood up for Lincoln, the Ron Paul fans clobbered me, even though
we could not have the America we do today with slavery. Lincoln changed
the world in that respect, and that cannot be taken lightly.

I'm concerned about this Ron Paul movement now. I was a fan, until I found
out he's a mason. Now, I'm labeled by the Ron Paul fans too, which is something
they pretend to fight against.

It's all a big pile of SH*T

stompk
04-22-2008, 05:37 AM
Did you know Ron Paul was drafted, and only served 2 1/2 yrs?


After two years, he was drafted and began active duty with the Air National Guard. He was stationed at Kelly Air Force Base in San Antonio, Texas. Though he would have preferred to continue his medical training, he decided to make the best of his time in the military.

“I became a flight surgeon not an Air Force pilot but I got my private pilot (license),” says Paul. “At that time, you know we were fantastically rich because I could make $700 a month and didn’t work nearly as hard as I did as a resident.”

Following his two and a half years of active duty he returned to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, to continue his medical training, leaving internal medicine and redirecting his focus to OB/GYN.

http://www.crossandcrescent.com/2007/11/ron-pauls-presidential-bid/

Wow, did 2 1/2 yrs in his home state, after being drafted?? Tough duty there Ronny.

stompk
04-22-2008, 06:20 AM
In the official forum.

Daily Dose Ľ Blog Archive Ľ 34th response (user Steve Svensson) (http://people.ronpaul2008.com/campaign-updates/2008/04/21/pa-primary-tomorrow/#comment-53160)

stompk
04-22-2008, 06:44 AM
I've posted this response, which is under moderation, so probably won't make the post.

#

Mr. Paul.

I was in the Daily Paul forum, and someone came in claiming she use to do your schedule.

She claimed Mrs. Paul is a member of the (Velasco) Order of the Eastern Star. Also, that your
father was a freemason.

Sir, women are not allowing into the Eastern Star without a husband being a freemason,
so, before I go spreading this information all over the world, I will give you a chance, here,
in the official forum, to respond.

Otherwise, in my opinion, you have been lying to the public, just like the rest of them, and your
voting record has been deliberate to fool the masses into following you like you are some sort
of savior, all the while leading them into the abyss.

I wait your answer, but not for long. Iím pretty convinced this person was authentic.

Next, I will point out that you really never told us you were drafted, and did a whole
2 1/2 years in Texas National Guard. Thanks for bringing that forth.

And what is the $400,000,000 million for the oil refinery in your district, right before you got
re-elected? Is this tied to the whole Port Arthur VX nerve gas thingy?

And this response


Steve Svensson Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
April 22nd, 2008 at 6:40 am

Is this an answer from Ron Paul? Is their a problem with freemasonry?

Who do you think the New World Order is. Order out of Chaos sound familiar?

Theyíve got people calling Ron Paul supporters kooks, and theyíve got
Ron Paul supporters calling everyone that doesnít support Ron Paul kooks.

So, effectively, what we have here, is the brink of civil war.

Pinch the economy, ration food, ran up gas, crash equity in housing, trap people
in loans, the list goes on and on.

Who instills this? Who suggests in your local government taking loans for things,
when the town has enough money to pay for it outright, effectively trapping the
tax paying citizens into a credit situation?

Look at any sign entering a town. Whoís there. Freemasons.

And some will say, well they donate a lot of money. Where do they get the money they
donate. From you, and me, through charities, functions, and DUES. Better pay your dues, huh.

Why, cause it all goes back the the Knights Templar. They protected the Temple. What Temple?

The Temple of Solomon, which is the same Temple Jesus said he would bring down, and the same temple
he slapped the ďmoney changersĒ Knight Templar, Freemason, Illuminati, World Order. Itís all the same thing.

Anti-Christ. Look at the symbol for the Order of The Easter Star closely.
General Grand Chapter OES (http://www.easternstar.org/)

Notice itís a .org. Tax Free people.

Now look at this.
The Pentagram and Ram's Head (http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/pentagram.htm)

Thereís a third side in this Revolution. Itís called the Spiritual Army.

stompk
04-22-2008, 06:51 AM
Just added this comment
# Steve Svensson Says:
April 22nd, 2008 at 6:46 am

For the moderators, since you appear to be moderating.

Iím running a parallel thread a Club Conspiracy, so
your surpression of speech is not working, and only
making you look worse.

Cuts both ways.
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# Steve Svensson Says:
April 22nd, 2008 at 6:48 am

Jeffery, correct me if Iím wrong, but Ron Paul was in office in 2007, right.

To be exact Dec, 2007 this money was alloted to his district.

Gotta look hard. Iím waiting to see what Ron Paul says.

stompk
04-22-2008, 07:04 AM
I've posted this.

#

We pick apart Bush for being a member of the Skull and Bones. Did you know his father was knighted into the Knight of Malta?

We pick apart Clinton and Obama for being members of the CFR, and Hillary meeting with the Bilderbergers.

Well, Hillary is in the Order of The Eastern Star, and Osama is a member of the Prince Hall Freemasons.

Condileeza Rice is a member of the Pan-Hellenic group. Just think of this neat little group as what they call
themselve literally. Spreading Hell. Pan-demic. Pan-America, the airline that covers all of America.

People are woefully duped, cause their faith is weak.
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# Steve Svensson Says:
April 22nd, 2008 at 7:02 am

Ellen, did my good idea get anywhere? I tried it in the daily paul too. No one cares. Itís all about sapping up your money, getting your personal information, and leading you to an electronic, credit only society.

Why hasnít Ron Paul come out and said, ďHell yes, Iím still in the race!Ē

Think about it.

stompk
04-22-2008, 07:12 AM
New post


This is from his Fraternity Website, Cross and Crescent.

"Following graduation from Gettysburg College in Pennsylvania, Paul attended Duke University School of Medicine, and then went on to the Henry Ford Clinic to get further training in internal medicine.

After two years, he was drafted and began active duty with the Air National Guard. He was stationed at Kelly Air Force Base in San Antonio, Texas. Though he would have preferred to continue his medical training, he decided to make the best of his time in the military.

ďI became a flight surgeon not an Air Force pilot but I got my private pilot (license),Ē says Paul. ďAt that time, you know we were fantastically rich because I could make $700 a month and didnít work nearly as hard as I did as a resident.Ē

Following his two and a half years of active duty he returned to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, to continue his medical training, leaving internal medicine and redirecting his focus to OB/GYN.

He then decided to return to Lake Jackson, Texas, to begin his private practice."

stompk
04-22-2008, 07:25 AM
# Steve Svensson Says:
April 22nd, 2008 at 7:18 am

I want Ron Paul to either say, Iím a mason, or, no, Iím not a mason.

I trusted him to tell all the truths. Transparency in government means your
candidate canít have secrets, and sure as heck canít belong to the worlds
largest secret society.

It baffles me that people or so easily duped, that they are willing to look past
this simple fact.

Itís about principle.
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# Steve Svensson Says:
April 22nd, 2008 at 7:23 am

I donít know Rick. I have no one either. I was a Ron Paul supporter, holding meetup groups, and put an ad in the paper, ďvote for Ron PaulĒ Made a YouTube video. Iíve been duped too.

Robert Morris was a Freemason too. Robert Morris financed the Revolution (singlehandedly they say). If you go to the Washington Capital Dome site, and look at the fresco, that had to be approved by congress, painted on the bottom of the dome, you will see Mercury, the god of Commerce, handing Robert Morris a bag of Gold.

Atop of the Dome, is the Tholos, the Greek entrance to Hell. Gotta love them Masons.

redrat11
04-22-2008, 09:14 AM
BS.




The truth is, alot of the Ron Paul fans are gun toting white supremicists
who jumped on board when Paul dissed Lincoln.




My, how "tolerant" of you,so lets see here, Lincoln who suspended habeus corpus,and posse comitatus, and imposed martial law on a Constitutional Republic is somehow a great President? And so I guess in your "NWO LOGIC" That means that federalism, a form of communism of sorts, is OK by you? And I also suppose that your "NWO LOGIC" would say that STATES have no rights to seceed from the union, for whatever there citizenry deems necessary? Or does the Federal Government and its Satanic Minions have absolute authority on whether people should own guns, or freely associate with whomever they like? Your own logic makes no sense becuase you have stated here on CC THAT YOU WERE ONCE A NAVY SEAL, that means that you served the Federal Government also, so if R Paul supposedly (and there is NO CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE) was a mason, that would disqualify all the great work he has done for his constituents in his district? Likewise, that would disqualify all your rants here, because NAVY SEALS PERFORM "KILLING OPERATIONS" AT THE BEHEST OF THE PTB IN WASHINGTON DC. My friend you got it all wrong, just remember, those who serve Satan, deserve Satan. Good Day...

stompk
04-22-2008, 12:38 PM
Check Ron Paul's 2006 Congressional District allocations.

Contracts Performed in Texas 14 (Ron Paul)
(FY 2006)

Searching...

List of Individual Transactions for FY 2006

You can click on the column headers below to re-sort the search.
Amount Parent Company Name Major Agency Product or Service Date
$18,147,188 BLACKSTONE DREDGING PARTNERS
Dept. of Defense Construction of structures and facilities 2006-08-21
$9,209,949 LUHR BROS INC
Dept. of Defense Construction of structures and facilities 2006-09-22
$4,649,691 UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS SYSTEM
Dept. of Health and Human Services Research and development 2006-09-21
$2,782,700 FISHER KING MARINE SERVICES
Dept. of Defense Maintenance, repair, or alteration of real property 2006-05-18
$2,688,224 C HENDERSON CONSULTING INCORPORATED Dept. of Homeland Security Research and development 2005-10-31
$1,908,420 B + B DREDGING COMPANY (INC)
Dept. of Defense Maintenance, repair, or alteration of real property 2006-09-27
$1,500,000 CLEAN HARBORS
Dept. of Homeland Security Natural resources and conservation services 2006-03-29
$1,458,775 T.W. LAQUAY DREDGING, INC
Dept. of Defense Maintenance, repair, or alteration of real property 2006-08-21
$1,261,597 MANSON CNSTR & ENGRG CO
Dept. of Defense Maintenance, repair, or alteration of real property 2006-09-21
$1,155,000 LUHR BROS INC
Dept. of Defense Construction of structures and facilities 2006-09-26
$1,000,000 CENAC ENVIRONMENTAL
Dept. of Homeland Security Natural resources and conservation services 2005-10-21
$947,909 TESORO PETROLEUM CORPORATION
Dept. of Homeland Security Construction of structures and facilities 2005-12-07
$934,454 UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS SYSTEM
NASA Research and development 2006-09-21
$775,000 CLEAN HARBORS
Dept. of Homeland Security Natural resources and conservation services 2006-02-01
$763,049 INLAND EQUIPMENT SERVICE, INC
Dept. of Homeland Security Maintenance, repair, or alteration of real property 2006-04-06
$750,000 NATL RESPONSE CORP
Dept. of Homeland Security Natural resources and conservation services 2005-10-21
$748,655 INLAND EQUIPMENT SERVICE, INC
Dept. of Homeland Security Maintenance, repair, or alteration of real property 2006-03-10


and on and on.

Read the rest here
Federal Contracts Performed in Texas 14 (Ron Paul) Congressional District, FY 2006, list of transactions (http://www.fedspending.org/fpds/fpds.php?fiscal_year=2006&pop_cd=TX14&sortby=f&datype=T&reptype=r&database=fpds&detail=2&submit=GO)

stompk
04-24-2008, 05:05 AM
It's sad really, Ron Paul supporters want rid of NWO and Ron Paul is part of the whole agenda.

Sick people I tell ya.

stompk
04-29-2008, 04:35 PM
Bump for the ATS directed here.

KennyWally
05-01-2008, 06:36 PM
" I was just in a debate on the Daily Paul forum, when someone close to Ron Paul came out and admitted his wife is a member of the Eastern Star. To be a member of the Eastern Star, you have to have a husband that is a Mason."

Well, JFK was a catholic, and look what they did to him!

If you forgot, it USED TO BE a big issue, being a catholic, but JFK said his loyalty was to the constitution first! [ can you even tell me why it was an issue? ]

As long as ron paul is loyal to the constitution, [ actually it appears he's the only one mentioning it at all ] he'll still get my vote.

BlueAngel
05-01-2008, 08:49 PM
If you believe that Freemasonry is a link in the chain to the "secret societies" that are a part of the corruption of our country/world, why would you support Ron Paul?

Are you saying that if one is a Catholic, this religion interferes with their ability to adhere to the Constitution (i.e., your example of JFK)?

KennyWally
05-02-2008, 12:03 AM
If you believe that Freemasonry is a link in the chain to the "secret societies" that are a part of the corruption of our country/world, why would you support Ron Paul?

Are you saying that if one is a Catholic, this religion interferes with their ability to adhere to the Constitution (i.e., your example of JFK)?


I already answered that ! Weren't you around for JFK? There was HUGE history behind the opposition to ANY catholic being in office! Most of it hasn't been mentioned since our sold out to the enemy press has been giving the sheeple the newz! [ rather, omitting the news we should know about ]

I think JFK was the last decent prez we had....[ despite his catholic connection and which connection he addressed to quell those who were concerned ] all the rest had some kind of sword of damacles hovering over their heads, unseen by the people. [ how is it, that the west has forgotten the oppression of "the church" against the protestants? "the church hasn't forgotten, nor has it given up!]

The powers that had an effect on you are the same ones I'm inferring here. And YOU of all people know exactly how deep it goes, at least in the music business.

So, without getting into a long winded thread with an insane number of examples, lets just say, like I said earlier, of all the people that we have a choice of, he is the only one worth a damn.

My only other choice would be to not vote, but I'd rather throw it at the guy who is the most scary to the DC whores. [ the proof of which, lays in their omission of him ]

BlueAngel
05-02-2008, 10:39 PM
I already answered that ! Weren't you around for JFK? There was HUGE history behind the opposition to ANY catholic being in office! Most of it hasn't been mentioned since our sold out to the enemy press has been giving the sheeple the newz! [ rather, omitting the news we should know about ]

I think JFK was the last decent prez we had....[ despite his catholic connection and which connection he addressed to quell those who were concerned ] all the rest had some kind of sword of damacles hovering over their heads, unseen by the people. [ how is it, that the west has forgotten the oppression of "the church" against the protestants? "the church hasn't forgotten, nor has it given up!]

The powers that had an effect on you are the same ones I'm inferring here. And YOU of all people know exactly how deep it goes, at least in the music business.

So, without getting into a long winded thread with an insane number of examples, lets just say, like I said earlier, of all the people that we have a choice of, he is the only one worth a damn.

My only other choice would be to not vote, but I'd rather throw it at the guy who is the most scary to the DC whores. [ the proof of which, lays in their omission of him ]

Yes. I was around for JFK.

My question was this:

Why did you infer that JFK's religion was an issue regarding his adherence to the constitution?

Did he say, "well, I'm Catholic, but I'm not going to let that get in the way of honoring the Constitution?

I have stated this before.

It doesn't matter if Ron Paul if "one of them" or not.

If he EVER makes it into the White House (which he won't), if he is one of them, he will do as he is told; if he is not and tries to go outside of their agenda, they will blow his brains out just as they did JFK.

And, you're right on, Kelly Wally.

Me, of all people, DO KNOW!!!

redrat11
05-03-2008, 11:59 AM
If he EVER makes it into the White House (which he won't), if he is one of them, he will do as he is told; if he is not and tries to go outside of their agenda, they will blow his brains out just as they did JFK.





Jeez, BA, that's some real "hopeful" thinking there it seems, GIVE IT A BREAK!

BlueAngel
05-03-2008, 01:20 PM
Jeez, BA, that's some real "hopeful" thinking there it seems, GIVE IT A BREAK!

Better to face the truth than to live a lie...

KennyWally
05-04-2008, 01:42 PM
Yes. I was around for JFK.

My question was this:

Why did you infer that JFK's religion was an issue regarding his adherence to the constitution?

Did he say, "well, I'm Catholic, but I'm not going to let that get in the way of honoring the Constitution?....

It doesn't matter if Ron Paul if "one of them" or not.

.... if he is not and tries to go outside of their agenda, they will blow his brains out just as they did JFK.

....


It WAS and it still IS, A BIG CONCERN TO THOSE WHO ARE PAYING ATTENTION, however since our puppet media ALSO does what it is told, the american people haven't got a clue....ergo the usual odd looks from the sheeple, when they are confronted with the truth!!!!! [ I'm sure you knew that last part too ]

To elaborate just a bit, I'll cite;

The inquisition, and the st. bartholomews massacre, and the churches own comments about what it sez it has the "authority " to do.

"the church" may have forgotten about the inquisition, and many sheeple have forgotten it, but there are plenty who have not and for good reason....which is proved by the mere existence of the st. bartholomews day massacre. An event like that doesn't "just happen" out of a clear blue sky for no apparent reason...just look at what the whores at wiki say...St. Bartholomew's Day massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Bartholomew%27s_Day_massacre)

mob action INDEED!!!!!!! what a croc !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I almost forgot, this, important gentleman,

Foreign Conspiracy Against the ... - Google Book Search (http://books.google.com/books?id=J-LChYFcUf8C&printsec=titlepage&dq=Samuel+Morse+conspiracy)

who tried warning the american people about "the church"...a wolf in sheeps clothing, if ever there was one. [ I don't have the time right now to find all the church quotes to prove my point but I can get them if you insist, but just not today ]

So, dear BA, there WAS and IS plenty of evidence that anyone of that particular persuasion should be checked out for where their loyalty lays. Funny how the sold out to the whores, even back then puppet media, never said a word concerning the history behind the flap surrounding JFK!!!!

But JFK faced those concerns head on, like a decent man with honorable intentions to serve the people should do, and addressed those concerns around the country in various ways. It was in a combination of press briefings and meetings at universities and press clubs and other organizations of concerned citizens, where he assured them that his duty was to the constitution and the citizens.


And although you are probably right about the outcome, I for one, will not betray my conscience and vote for either a scalawag or a carpet bagger, commonly referred to as dem/rep, for the sake of being popular...

PTOOEY !!!!!!!!!!!!

BlueAngel
09-26-2008, 10:03 PM
It WAS and it still IS, A BIG CONCERN TO THOSE WHO ARE PAYING ATTENTION, however since our puppet media ALSO does what it is told, the american people haven't got a clue....ergo the usual odd looks from the sheeple, when they are confronted with the truth!!!!! [ I'm sure you knew that last part too ]

To elaborate just a bit, I'll cite;

The inquisition, and the st. bartholomews massacre, and the churches own comments about what it sez it has the "authority " to do.

"the church" may have forgotten about the inquisition, and many sheeple have forgotten it, but there are plenty who have not and for good reason....which is proved by the mere existence of the st. bartholomews day massacre. An event like that doesn't "just happen" out of a clear blue sky for no apparent reason...just look at what the whores at wiki say...St. Bartholomew's Day massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Bartholomew%27s_Day_massacre)

mob action INDEED!!!!!!! what a croc !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I almost forgot, this, important gentleman,

Foreign Conspiracy Against the ... - Google Book Search (http://books.google.com/books?id=J-LChYFcUf8C&printsec=titlepage&dq=Samuel+Morse+conspiracy)

who tried warning the american people about "the church"...a wolf in sheeps clothing, if ever there was one. [ I don't have the time right now to find all the church quotes to prove my point but I can get them if you insist, but just not today ]

So, dear BA, there WAS and IS plenty of evidence that anyone of that particular persuasion should be checked out for where their loyalty lays. Funny how the sold out to the whores, even back then puppet media, never said a word concerning the history behind the flap surrounding JFK!!!!

But JFK faced those concerns head on, like a decent man with honorable intentions to serve the people should do, and addressed those concerns around the country in various ways. It was in a combination of press briefings and meetings at universities and press clubs and other organizations of concerned citizens, where he assured them that his duty was to the constitution and the citizens.


And although you are probably right about the outcome, I for one, will not betray my conscience and vote for either a scalawag or a carpet bagger, commonly referred to as dem/rep, for the sake of being popular...

PTOOEY !!!!!!!!!!!!

What the hell does any of that have to do with Ron Paul being a Freemason.

The Inquisition?

Huh?

The Kennedy's are an Illuminati bloodline family.

Anyone who makes it into the White House is one of them regardless of their religion.

Leonardo
09-26-2008, 10:37 PM
Well of course he's a freemason! How else could he have spoken with such knowledge about everything that needed to be done to fix the problems of the American commonwealth. He knew all the problems and offered a few simple solutions that would have fixed nearly the whole problem.

So they are 'playing fair', offering a 'choice'. No one will be able to claim to be 'misinformed'. Although none of that is true, it probably makes sense in elitist lingo.

For example when an elitist says Americans need to be 'responsible', what they mean is that they need to kowtow before all our policies and authority and become mindless, obedient slaves within their low caste--aka 'responsible'.

So what's his name ends up being a whatyoumacallit. Not surprising. It's all dialectic and misdirection you know.

BlueAngel
06-09-2009, 11:11 PM
<size = 4> I feel cheated, violated </size>

I supported this Baphomet loving man and his family. Yuk.

I was just in a debate on the Daily Paul forum, when someone close to Ron Paul came out and admitted his wife is a member of the Eastern Star. To be a member of the Eastern Star, you have to have a husband that is a Mason.

Check it out.


Freemasonry is evil. |Daily Paul (http://www.dailypaul.com/node/46310)

Update: The above link no longer works for me, so I don't know if the thread exists anymore. They deleted several of my
threads at the daily paul, and now I am banned from the site.

It's funny, talked about all sort of things in that forum. Moon hoax, electrons, things I've posted here, but when you start
talking about the freemasons, you get banned. Just like ATS. And they remove all of my posts about mason in the Christian
Forums.

Thanks Club Conspiracy.

If you're so in the know, how come you were so easily fooled by RON PAUL?

Truther
04-24-2010, 10:19 PM
I have heard from sources I have talked to that Ron Paul is a member of the Jesuit Organization. I have not been able to verify that information so I can't vouch for it. However, I have seen articles from mainstream news papers showing Ron Paul doing with fellow politicians what appears to be a secret handshake. That for me really raises red flags.

I would not be surprised if Ron Paul is a member of the Illuminati because they have a lot of operatives who infiltrate the truth and freedom movements, and many of them are lower level members of the global cabal. What I mean by lover level is they have some distant genealogical connections to cabal families like the Windsors, Astors, and Rothschilds.

BlueAngel
04-24-2010, 10:52 PM
Ron Paul is Ron Paul.

Neither here nor there.

Freemason or not.

Just a blip in the atmosphere.

Inconsequential.