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nomad
01-06-2005, 07:59 AM
http://www.theage.com.au/ffxImage/urlpicture_id_1077072814749_2004/02/20/GIB,0.jpg

The reason the NWO hates him:

From a 1995 interview

Mel Gibson discusses the guys behind the scene
An interview Gibson gave in Playboy, July 1995 (Vol. 42 ; No. 7 ; Pg. 51). Some excerpts:


PLAYBOY: What does he [Hutton Gibson] have to do with the Alliance for Catholic Tradition, which one magazine called "an extreme conservative Catholic splinter group"?

GIBSON: He started it. Some people say it's extreme, but it emphasizes what the institution was and where it's going. Everything he was taught to believe was taken from him in the Sixties with this renewal Vatican Council. The whole institution became unrecognizable to him, so he writes about it.

.........

PLAYBOY: Do you believe in Darwin's theory of evolution or that God created man in his image?

GIBSON: The latter.

PLAYBOY: So you can't accept that we descended from monkeys and apes?

GIBSON: No, I think it's bullshit. If it isn't, why are they still around? How come apes aren't people yet? It's a nice theory, but I can't swallow it. There's a big credibility gap. The carbon dating thing that tells you how long something's been around, how accurate is that, really? I've got one of Darwin's books at home and some of that stuff is pretty damn funny. Some of his stuff is true, like that the giraffe has a long neck so it can reach the leaves. But I just don't think you can swallow the whole piece.

PLAYBOY: We take it that you're not particularly broad-minded when it comes to issues such as celibacy, abortion, birth control --

GIBSON: People always focus on stuff like that. Those aren't issues. Those are unquestionable. You don't even argue those points.

PLAYBOY: You don't?

GIBSON: No.

PLAYBOY: What about allowing women to be priests?

GIBSON: No.

PLAYBOY: Why not?

GIBSON: I'll get kicked around for saying it, but men and women are just different. They're not equal. The same way that you and I are not equal.

PLAYBOY: That's true. You have more money.

GIBSON: You might be more intelligent, or you might have a bigger dick. Whatever it is, nobody's equal. And men and women are not equal. I have tremendous respect for women. I love them. I don't know why they want to step down. Women in my family are the center of things. An good things emanate from them. The guys usually mess up.

PLAYBOY: That's quite a generalization.

GIBSON: Women are just different. Their sensibilities are different.

PLAYBOY: Any examples?

GIBSON: I had a female business partner once. Didn't work.

PLAYBOY: Why not?

GIBSON: She was a cunt.

PLAYBOY: And the feminists dare to put you down!

GIBSON: Feminists don't like me, and I don't like them. I don't get their point. I don't know why feminists have it out for me, but that's their problem, not mine.

.................

PLAYBOY: How do you feel about Bill Clinton?

GIBSON: He's a low-level opportunist. Somebody's telling him what to do.

PLAYBOY: Who?

GIBSON: The guy who's in charge isn't going to be the front man, ever. If I were going to be calling the shots I wouldn't make an appearance. Would you? You'd end up losing your head. It happens all the time. All those monarchs. If he's the leader, he's getting shafted. What's keeping him in there? Why would you stay for that kind of abuse? Except that he has to stay for some reason. He was meant to be the president 30 years ago, if you ask me.

PLAYBOY: He was just 18 then.

GIBSON: Somebody knew then that he would be president now.

PLAYBOY: You really believe that?

GIBSON: I really believe that. He was a Rhodes scholar, right? Just like Bob Hawke. Do you know what a Rhodes scholar is? Cecil Rhodes established the Rhodes scholarship for those young men and women who want to strive for a new world order. Have you heard that before? George Bush? CIA? Really, it's Marxism, but it just doesn't want to call itself that. Karl had the right idea, but he was too forward about saying what it was. Get power but don't admit to it. Do it by stealth. There's a whole trend of Rhodes scholars who will be politicians around the world.

PLAYBOY: This certainly sounds like a paranoid sense of world history. You must be quite an assassination buff.

GIBSON: Oh, fuck. A lot of those guys pulled a boner. There's something to do with the Federal Reserve that Lincoln did, Kennedy did and Reagan tried. I can't remember what it was, my dad told me about it. Everyone who did this particular thing that would have fixed the economy got undone. Anyway, I'll end up dead if I keep talking shit.

Ahmad
01-06-2005, 08:41 AM
Peace,


As for me i see him as a follower of Satan. Only Satan would distort history. I have written on another thread that "Crucifixion" is one of the biggest succesful "Trauma based mind control" ever used by satan on the masses.

God says in the final testament that the Jews never killed him nor they crucified him in reality, God's scheme was better than Satan, God raised his soul and saved his servant, Jesus before they tortured the empty (seemingly awake) body.

Using his propaganda ministers, Satan later convinced everybody that Jesus is god, when only God is God.

The way Mel-Gibson talks make me put him in the "Conservatives" category, which is one of Satan's extremes, that encompass all the blind followers of their dogmas of idol-worship.

Crucifying "the Body" of Jesus*

[4:157] And for claiming that they killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, the messenger of GOD. In fact, they never killed him, they never crucified him - they were made to think that they did. All factions who are disputing in this matter are full of doubt concerning this issue. They possess no knowledge; they only conjecture. For certain, they never killed him.*

[4:158] Instead, GOD raised him to Him; GOD is Almighty, Most Wise.

[4:159] Everyone among the people of the scripture was required to believe in him before his death. On the Day of Resurrection, he will be a witness against them.

*4:157-158 Jesus, the real person, the soul, was raised in the same manner as in the death of any righteous person. Subsequently, his enemies arrested, tortured, and crucified his living, but empty, body. See Appendices 17 & 22 , and the book ``Development of the Christian Doctrine'' by Lisa Spray (United Submitters International, Tucson, Arizona, 1990).

(from the authorized english translation by Rashad Khalifa)

nomad
01-06-2005, 09:22 AM
May be, interesting that the Torah claims

that God is love and here we have the proof

that God IS love. What mother wouldn't

give her life for her kids ? Can humans

therefore display more love than God ?

billiard
01-06-2005, 11:01 AM
mel gibson is indeed one of us .i had never seen that interview before .[i never read playboy ,i just look at the pictures :) ]
i suspected it from the nature of his films over the last few years . mel is the man .

nomad
01-06-2005, 11:27 AM
billiard wrote:
mel gibson is indeed one of us .i had never seen that interview before .[i never read playboy ,i just look at the pictures :) ]
i suspected it from the nature of his films over the last few years . mel is the man .

He is the man thanks to his dad who has

been warning others about the NWO for over

50 years already.

Quote:

PLAYBOY: This certainly sounds like a paranoid sense of world history. You must be quite an assassination buff.

GIBSON: Oh, fuck. A lot of those guys pulled a boner. There's something to do with the Federal Reserve that Lincoln did, Kennedy did and Reagan tried. I can't remember what it was, my dad told me about it. Everyone who did this particular thing that would have fixed the economy got undone. Anyway, I'll end up dead if I keep talking shit.

freeman
01-06-2005, 11:50 AM
Don't get me wrong. I certainly hope this is true.
The part I don't understand is how Hollywood would let him enjoy such commercial success with a vehicle like this film.
Although I do acknowledge that his personal career seems to have pretty much stagnated since the release of this movie, almost as if he is being ostracized. Then again, that is often common for actors in his age bracket.

Max
01-06-2005, 12:34 PM
I think Mel is one of us but I do accept that he may of made mistakes in promoting the wrong agenda and is still influenced by the NWO.

Here are some other links that I posted over here:
http://www.clubconspiracy.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=332

Two Alex Jones interviews with Hutton Gibson (Mels father):
http://www.prisonplanet.com/gibson_01_17_03.mp3
http://www.prisonplanet.com/gibson_03_12_03.mp3

Another piece:
http://www.universalway.org/passionofthechrist.html#Hutton

A like to the above transcript:
http://100777.com/node/729


I'm not sure why Hollywood would grant him success- it could be some combination that he conned them and just slipped in undetected- I think they aren't too worried to feel the need to do background checks on everyone-- so long as they have control on what people do they are happy. Mel is just an odd case (like Alex Jones)- where someone who worked hard, made some commercial success was able to see what really happened.

Of course- with knowing all this we can see why it was difficult for Mel to get a distributor for the movie, the media spin said it was "too controversial"-- yeah, it was controversial for the Illuminati.

nomad
01-06-2005, 01:15 PM
freeman wrote:
Don't get me wrong. I certainly hope this is true.
The part I don't understand is how Hollywood would let him enjoy such commercial success with a vehicle like this film.
Although I do acknowledge that his personal career seems to have pretty much stagnated since the release of this movie, almost as if he is being ostracized. Then again, that is often common for actors in his age bracket.


Remember the movie was heavily edited by the NWO

Jewish branch ... the scene KEY to understanding

the NWO about Jesus using violence to express

the evils of the moneychangers was removed ...

and Mel used $20+ million of his own money to

make the film ... have you noticed in the news

that Mel is now being hounded by a crazy nut

and even showed up at Mel's church ? ... think

CIA MK Ultra.

freeman
01-06-2005, 10:20 PM
You guys may be right about Mel. I know he has been in other films with anti-NWO themes.
For instance, in "Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome", Tina Turner's evil advisor wears a visible masonic ring, and of course, Gibson was chosen to star in "Conspiracy Theory", a 1997 release that resembles a lot of the topics on this forum. Even George Bush Sr. and the masons are referenced once again.
I figure if nothing else watcing Gibson will serve as a test case for what happens when people buck up against the NWO and Illuminati.
They have already killed the likes of John Kennedy, Jr. for what seemed like less provocation, but like Yogi Berra said, "It ain't over till it's over."

Mawashi
01-06-2005, 10:47 PM
I too think Mel is the real deal. Of course, nobody is perfect, but Mel's got the balls to publicly state what he believes, and I admire him especially because those belief run strongly counter to the prevailing ideals of Hollywood and the NWO.

Moreover, he's willing to put his own money and credibility on the line in the face of some pretty shrill hostility. It just shows how frightened the NWO is of the truth. I saw "Passion", but only on an aeroplane, so I'm guessing it was even more heavily cut, but sometimes the violence isn't gratuitous - it is necessary to recreate what must have happened to Christ in his last hours.


Onya Mel :-D

sablefish
01-06-2005, 11:51 PM
Mel is the real deal.. Some people here say that Catholics are some kind of idiots/demons... When you realize the life, passion, and determination of the man who the movie "The Man Without A Face" was based on.. Mel Gibson is the closest thing to a modern Saint as anybody in our lifetimes will ever know.

And Catholicism is just a splinter of the Great Body of Christ... His/Mel's contribution is enormous.. God bless Mel.. for weaving his thread into the Eternal Book of our Lifetimes..

All of our lifetimes are but threads in the tapestry of God's greater Plan.. We cannot see our efforts in the short span that we are allowed as mortals.. But the thread of our own small lives can also be a part of the same rug/tapestry/pattern woven with the hands of time everlasting.

I like Mel.. If we would do as much time on our knees in prayer as he has done in his life, the World would be a much better place.

nomad
01-07-2005, 07:06 AM
Braveheart was another good movie made by St.Gibson

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/21/FVBR2.JPG

madkhao
01-07-2005, 03:27 PM
Don't forget about Conspiracy Theory!

get_real
01-12-2005, 03:33 PM
Excuse MEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! Somebody needs to do their homework. Mel Gibson is NOT one of us.
HE is one of THEM!!! Mel Gibson is ALLOWED behind closed doors with the 'button pushers', you and I are not.
:-o

madkhao
01-12-2005, 04:53 PM
get real, I agree. I tend to think of Mel as the actor they put in charge of people like us. Example, Madonna: In charge of slut/feminists,
Arnold: in charge of action/political and Mel in charge of christians/conspiracy freaks
Provide all types of peoples with an icon they can relate to, to subdue the masses kind of thing. Here's an article showing Mel literally behind closed doors pushing buttons in a way.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/1/11/104058.shtml

get_real
01-12-2005, 05:04 PM
"All The World's A Stage......." :lol:

nohope187
01-12-2005, 05:10 PM
just a slob like one of us, just a stranger on the bus trying to make his way home. -Joan Osbourne :-P

get_real
01-12-2005, 05:17 PM
A very rich slob. :lol:

nohope187
01-12-2005, 05:26 PM
Wealth usually makes the true colors show. :-P

truebeliever
01-12-2005, 11:19 PM
Absoloutly Mel is one of us!

His old man is a real anti NWO devil. Absoloutly ruthless in his hatred of the NWO.

Mel's also a real nice guy.

madkhao
01-16-2005, 09:56 PM
Here's an interesting perspective of the passion

http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/passion.html

http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1898.cfm

The debate is still on, is he really one of us?

truebeliever
01-16-2005, 10:18 PM
Checked out those sites...hmmmmm.

I think the movie speaks for itself.

The flogging is the best scene. The violence fantastic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Taken from historical documents on Roman punishment.

Thats whats so great about this movie.

I'm sick of namby pamby depctions of the crucifixion.

Christ went through HELL a dozen times over as an example to us all!

When we next feel crucified by the state or our work or our community for speaking the truth remember Christ.

He rose again. I'll view Christs buttocks all day.

If thats an Illuminati film then I'm a fan of American Idol.

My only criticism is the preponderence of 'white' people.

People who lived in the ME 2000 years ago did not have white skin.

A mistake on Gibsons part.

truebeliever
01-16-2005, 10:20 PM
Gibson is a self funded man.

He is staunchly Catholic.

He answers to no one.

U2 are the Catholic sell outs.

From "Sunday Bloody Sunday" to "It's A Beautiful Day" in a few years.

Draken
01-17-2005, 07:14 AM
I haven't seen The Passion, but my sister did. Her account of the film convinced me NOT to see it.

She was absolutely disgusted with the violence. The film deals only with the last few hours of Jesus's life. To clarify; it's NOT about what He SAID. That all happened at an earlier stage. What the film seems to be about is the VIOLENCE and TORTURE Jesus was forced to endure and ultimately die of.

That fact to me smells of the agenda to de-sensitize the masses to violence, torture, humiliation, blood and gore.

If anything, it seems to be a CELEBRATION of the Crucifiction.
That's not cute now, is it?

nomad
01-17-2005, 04:02 PM
truebeliever wrote:
Gibson is a self funded man.

He is staunchly Catholic.

He answers to no one.

U2 are the Catholic sell outs.

From "Sunday Bloody Sunday" to "It's A Beautiful Day" in a few years.


I agree ... Mel can't be a fake because his

father has been on record against the NWO

for over 50 years ... can you see what he

has to gain from going against the NWO ?

With his net worth he has MORE to loose

by doing what he did ... how would you

feel if they put an MK ULTRA Mancurian candidate

looking over your shoulders ? Welcome they

did just that ... remember George Harrison

how he got stabbed in his home by a freak

before he released his Brainwashed album ?

jncmrw
01-17-2005, 05:40 PM
The movie is extremely violent and graphic. It is not entertainment, but rather a very sorrowful experience.

Check out this webpage on how it relates to scripture(if you're a bible believing christian):

http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/passion.html

If Mel is a conspiracy theorist? I think so.

I really enjoy Mel. Most of His films have some type of message of fighting for freedom, love, and life/GOD.

I love how he doesn't yield to the feminist, homosexual, worldly, satanic, NWO propaganda/politically correct nonsense taught to children at school and at home through tv/movies/newspapers/magazines etc..(check out www.savethemales.ca) Rebellious, selfish people on their way to destruction, just like Sodom and Gommorrah. He speaks his beliefs and doesn't lie by saying something he doesn't believe in or agree with, it is not communist russia/nazi germany yet, we all have freedom of speech. Praise GOD!

Films like Braveheart, Man without a face, conspiracy theory, Forever Young, The Patriot, are about fighting the evil ruling, anti-christ system. It is rare to see a male actor and director today go against the system and stands up and fight for what is right: GOD, freedom, justice, love, and truth(JESUS CHRIST), and doesn't let the system emasculate him and destroy his character & beliefs at the same time (cause him to conform to their beliefs as most try to do in order to success).

I'm suprised though that he has stayed so long in the Hollywood scene. I guess he said throughout the 80s he was not practicing his traditional cathloic faith(what he was raised growing up- from his father's beliefs), not until around the early 90s, I think when he said he was spiritually bankrupt, wanted to die by jumping out of a building(from diane saywer interview). I know that His Faith has influenced his films since then (directing and running his production company,starting with Hamlet).

Since many Jewish people work in the "Hollywood industry" it would take courage to make a movie like "The Passion". He didn't have any backing from any company, and no distributer til Sept/03(i think).

If he is part of the NWO system behind the curtain? I don't know because he would be betraying everything his father taught him growing up, and he seems to love his father as referred to in the diane sawyer interview. I would say though that with the compassion and love he has towards His Father(he probably has similar beliefs & views on life and the world) as seen on Diane Sawyer interview:

http://www.seethepassion.com/article.php?id=207

GOD knows his heart, that is all that matters for He is the rightful Judge.

Peace.

jncmrw
01-17-2005, 07:54 PM
Found a relevent quote by Mel about his father:

"I don't go for personal heroes but I do have one - my old man. My admiration for him cannot be measured."

http://melgibsonfan.tripod.com/id1.html

It is not an offical site or anything but the quote is down the page under: Quotes....it is the third quote down if you want to look.
It says though at the end of the list of quotes:
"Most quotes were found in the book 'Mel Gibson Living Dangerously' by Wensley Clarkson"

?

Peace.

jncmrw
01-17-2005, 09:24 PM
Yeah I found another quote by Mel(quite recent...since the Passion).

Him talking about his father:

http://alyssa.purmerendnet.nl/

I'd post the quote but it won't allow me.

It down the interview a little ways.


Peace.

truebeliever
01-17-2005, 09:48 PM
I guess it's a simple matter of taste.

I have no problem with gore as long as it's in context.

You can tell when it's just been thrown in for effect.

Gibson stated in an interview directly on the violence that that was the way it was. This is what they did to Jesus Christ.

I have heard many times that the movie did not explain enough of his ministry and all of his message. However, Gibson has been fervent that the movie was about reminding people what our Lord and saviour went through to save our souls and speak the truth.

Many times Jesus could have backed down. Knowing full well they would crucify for him for the truth.

When I feel down. When I feel i'm being mocked for my views and my time would be better spent working/going to the beach rather than posting, I just think of what Christ went through to bring the truth to light.

To that end the Illuminati have failed if they are behind that picture.

On another note on Gibson, i've heard 2nd and 3rd hand from people who have worked as security that Gibson is much loved. He is completely unpretentious and a dedicated family man.

I like him alot though i've never met him.

Best.

With this i'm born again and restored.

Draken
01-18-2005, 01:44 AM
I have to admit I like him as well.

I think that the impact of the film would've been much greater if he would've included at least some of the beautiful speaches - like in the Zeffirelli film - to show WHAT they killed Him for.

lynns_shadow
01-18-2005, 02:31 AM
One of "us"

and just what would that be again?

Nevermind, you must've meant human..

I'm sure I'll find out, sometime ;-)

nomad
01-18-2005, 07:04 AM
Draken wrote:
I have to admit I like him as well.

I think that the impact of the film would've been much greater if he would've included at least some of the beautiful speaches - like in the Zeffirelli film - to show WHAT they killed Him for.


I agree 100% the Zefferlli film overall was

better ... also missing was the full resurrection

scenes ... the end was kind of anti-climatic

and I was expecting more.