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vote_lex_2000
08-06-2008, 03:44 PM
I stumbled upon this forum earlier this afternoon after doing some googling regarding the possibility of Alex Jones being disinfo.

After struggling to get through the 14 pages of utter nonsense in this thread: http://clubconspiracy.com/forum/f19/disinformation-agents-alex-jones-jeff-rense-5661.html

I have concluded the following:

1) There is quite possibly accurate information in aforementioned post; however it is presented in such a fragmented and childish nature that it makes legitimate information almost impossible to discern from disinformation.

2) The in-fighting and pure paranoia are both highly evident of COINTELPRO infiltration.

Many of you claim to be aware of disinformation tactics and COINTELPRO, yet this forum is rife with the kind of behavior that is synonymous with such techniques.

I will not be posting on this forum again, it has proved itself unable to present concise and credible information.

Thank you for your time, I hope that this forum can clean up its act and perhaps become a useful tool for learning.

BlueAngel
08-06-2008, 07:25 PM
I stumbled upon this forum earlier this afternoon after doing some googling regarding the possibility of Alex Jones being disinfo.

After struggling to get through the 14 pages of utter nonsense in this thread: http://clubconspiracy.com/forum/f19/disinformation-agents-alex-jones-jeff-rense-5661.html

I have concluded the following:

1) There is quite possibly accurate information in aforementioned post; however it is presented in such a fragmented and childish nature that it makes legitimate information almost impossible to discern from disinformation.

2) The in-fighting and pure paranoia are both highly evident of COINTELPRO infiltration.

Many of you claim to be aware of disinformation tactics and COINTELPRO, yet this forum is rife with the kind of behavior that is synonymous with such techniques.

I will not be posting on this forum again, it has proved itself unable to present concise and credible information.

Thank you for your time, I hope that this forum can clean up its act and perhaps become a useful tool for learning.

You were reading a thread that was authored while Club Conspiracy was owned and operated by Henry Makow.

He did absolutely NOTHING to rid the forum of pests.

This site is not as infiltrated as CC was under Makow's ownership.

Of course, those who post here and are not AGENTS, are aware of COINTELPRO, but that doesn't mean we can stop them from coming here and infecting threads, which is their purpose so they do not flow as easily for the reader as they could without interference.

You have made one post and read one thread on this forum and have determined that this site does not contain concise and credible information.

You sound like a disinformation agent.

Maybe we should add your name to the thread that you linked.

Sit back, relax and browse the library.

There is MUCH credible information here.

BlueAngel
08-06-2008, 07:46 PM
Here, try this thread.

Just read BlueAngel's comments and skip those of the infiltrators who posted on the thread.

http://clubconspiracy.com/forum/f22/mind-control-music-industry-4429.html

BeenThereDoneThat
08-16-2008, 12:42 PM
Blue Angel says:
"Of course, those who post here and are not AGENTS, are aware of COINTELPRO"
Been ThereDoneThat asks: "So anyone that is not aware of Cointelpro are agents?"
BeenThereDoneThats opinion: THIS ^(what Blue Angel says) IS MASSIVE SPIN AND A SLICK INSERTION.
You are so wrong(Big blue dong)People want to come here to learn about such things . But keep trying to penetrate the minds of all of us (but you)INFILTRATORS and Agents. I think you are so penetrated that WE are the victims in your mind. Hmmmm…maybe I can back this with another statement you made that proves that maybe…YOU are the dis info agent who is labeling everyone but yourself as the ones not worth listening to and that BA is the ONLY one to believe. I still think you are trying to claim the ONE ship or ‘NEO’ of the MATRIX image you believe this forum to be under your senior spewage. It is a matrix of you insisting that only you are right and/ or are an EXPERT on your genre(which seems to be all genre’). I have to agree with vote_lex_2000:
"Many of you claim to be aware of disinformation tactics and COINTELPRO, yet this forum is rife with the kind of behavior that is synonymous with such techniques."
Blue Angel writes:

"Here, try this thread.

Just read BlueAngel's comments and skip those of the infiltrators who posted on the thread
MIND CONTROL AND THE MUSIC INDUSTRY (http://clubconspiracy.com/forum/f22/mind-control-music-industry-4429.html)".
BeenThereDoneThat asks: Just your comments? The rest are infiltrators?
Isn’t there 101 pages?
BeenthereDoneThat: There is truth to what vote_lex_2000 says…and there is only one post by this member. This member has taught new comers much…But I already knew.
BA should stop being so rude and overpowering. She is a danger to the healthy growth of this forum. (Again just my opinion) :p

Out of the Box
09-08-2008, 07:43 AM
I have concluded the following:

1) There is quite possibly accurate information in aforementioned post; however it is presented in such a fragmented and childish nature that it makes legitimate information almost impossible to discern from disinformation.

2) The in-fighting and pure paranoia are both highly evident of COINTELPRO infiltration.

Many of you claim to be aware of disinformation tactics and COINTELPRO, yet this forum is rife with the kind of behavior that is synonymous with such techniques.

Most of these people are probably just "useful idiots".

BlueAngel
09-08-2008, 08:23 AM
Most of these people are probably just "useful idiots".

Idiots, yes.

Useful, no.

Out of the Box
09-08-2008, 08:34 AM
Idiots, yes.

Useful, no.

Useful for the NWO. :rolleyes:

BlueAngel
09-08-2008, 08:36 AM
Useful for the NWO. :rolleyes:

In what way?

By acting like idiots?

Out of the Box
09-08-2008, 08:46 AM
In what way?

By acting like idiots?

By acting like idiots, such folks discredit other "conspiracy theorists" and therefore unwillingly aid COINTELPRO efforts.

BlueAngel
09-08-2008, 09:03 AM
By acting like idiots, such folks discredit other "conspiracy theorists" and therefore unwillingly aid COINTELPRO efforts.

Idiots don't discredit anyone except themselves.

Out of the Box
09-08-2008, 09:18 AM
Idiots don't discredit anyone except themselves.

Hardly. Idiots also discredit those associated with them.

BlueAngel
09-08-2008, 09:26 AM
Hardly. Idiots also discredit those associated with them.

And, those who associate themselves with USELESS IDIOTS are USELESS IDIOTS, as well.

Seriously, give people some credit for having enough intelligence to come to a conspiracy forum and ascertain who is a USELESS IDIOT and who isn't.

Out of the Box
09-08-2008, 09:37 AM
And, those who associate themselves with USELESS IDIOTS are USELESS IDIOTS, as well.

It depends. For example, if some idiot happens to be obsessed with 9/11 being an inside job, his behavior is damaging for the 9/11 thruth movement in general. This doesn't mean, however, that the 9/11 is full of idiots. Quite the contrary, actually.

Seriously, give people some credit for having enough intelligence to come to a conspiracy forum and ascertain who is a USELESS IDIOT and who isn't.

In the world of COINTELPRO, there are no useless idiots ;)

BlueAngel
09-08-2008, 05:58 PM
It depends. For example, if some idiot happens to be obsessed with 9/11 being an inside job, his behavior is damaging for the 9/11 thruth movement in general. This doesn't mean, however, that the 9/11 is full of idiots. Quite the contrary, actually.

Like I said, I think there are many people who are INTELLIGENT enough to make their own decisions when presented with information by those who do not appear to be USELESS IDIOTS within the conspiracy circle. This is not a perfect world and USELESS IDIOTS appear everywhere.

In the world of COINTELPRO, there are no useless idiots ;)

That would be wrong.

I'm certain many useful idiots start out that way and at some point become useless idiots who are abolished.

I don't live in the world of COINTELPRO and I certainly don't absorb their words as truth. Quite the opposite.

If you believe what COINTELPRO tells you, I think you've got a problem.



I think the message is too short occurs when the reply is made inside the quote.

Out of the Box
09-09-2008, 03:49 AM
Like I said, I think there are many people who are INTELLIGENT enough to make their own decisions when presented with information by those who do not appear to be USELESS IDIOTS within the conspiracy circle.

Most are either too stupid or too disinterested, I'm afraid.

I don't live in the world of COINTELPRO and I certainly don't absorb their words as truth. Quite the opposite.

We all live in the world of COINTELPRO. They are far more active than you might think and I'm pretty sure they have fooled you with regards to several topics.

If you believe what COINTELPRO tells you, I think you've got a problem.

Obviously. I'm pretty sure I'm far more sceptical about them than you are ;)

BlueAngel
09-09-2008, 07:32 PM
Most are either too stupid or too disinterested, I'm afraid.

Therein lies your arrogance.

We all live in the world of COINTELPRO. They are far more active than you might think and I'm pretty sure they have fooled you with regards to several topics.

Actually, I'm sure they've fooled all of us, YOU included, but most probably they've fooled you more than they've fooled me. Like I said, I don't take their words as fact. That's where you've fallen prey.

BlueAngel said:

If you believe what COINTELPRO tells you, I think you've got a problem.

OutoftheBox said:

I'm pretty sure I'm far more sceptical about them than you are

Obviously, I'm more skeptical about them than you are.



Just waiting for message is too short to appear.

Leonardo
09-09-2008, 07:36 PM
What is cointelpro? Is that that machine at Walmart that I can put my change in and it gives me dollar bills?

Out of the Box
09-10-2008, 04:46 AM
Most are either too stupid or too disinterested, I'm afraid.

Therein lies your arrogance.

Is it arrogant to accept reality?

We all live in the world of COINTELPRO. They are far more active than you might think and I'm pretty sure they have fooled you with regards to several topics.

Actually, I'm sure they've fooled all of us, YOU included, but most probably they've fooled you more than they've fooled me. Like I said, I don't take their words as fact. That's where you've fallen prey.

It's actually the other way around. I stopped accepting ANYTHING as truth from ANY source when I was 17 and decided to do my own research on EVERYTHING from that time onward. Currently, I only accept something when my own research confirms it. That makes it almost impossible to be indoctrinated.

Tell me : why are you a Christian other than people raising you as one?

BlueAngel said:

If you believe what COINTELPRO tells you, I think you've got a problem.

OutoftheBox said:

I'm pretty sure I'm far more sceptical about them than you are

Obviously, I'm more skeptical about them than you are.

You're funny...

Ozziecynic
09-10-2008, 06:37 AM
:rolleyes: Cointelpro is dead and buried that was back in the 1960S black ghettoes of US cities. It was mainly an FBI strategy against groups like the black panthers and marxist groups even US nazis.
It no longer exists its pure fantasy Ive seen this worthless slander used on all conspiracy forums to discredit other posters not just cc. When i went Alex Joneses Prisonplanet it was the same! When when I went to David Ickes forum same Illuminati net same , Three World wars same, all these forums too we have these nut jobs like OTB claiming we are all disnfo agents except for himself. Mate if you cant deal it the simple solution would be to simply stop posting here simple solved!:cool:

Out of the Box
09-10-2008, 07:32 AM
:rolleyes: Cointelpro is dead and buried that was back in the 1960S black ghettoes of US cities. It was mainly an FBI strategy against groups like the black panthers and marxist groups even US nazis.

Maybe the project with that name was buried, but the idea behind it is very much alive. Undercover agents in dissident political movements, conspiracy theorist groups and even Internet forums are very common and this is one of the main techniques for rendering movements harmless.

It no longer exists its pure fantasy Ive seen this worthless slander used on all conspiracy forums to discredit other posters not just cc. When i went Alex Joneses Prisonplanet it was the same! When when I went to David Ickes forum same Illuminati net same , Three World wars same, all these forums too we have these nut jobs like OTB claiming we are all disnfo agents except for himself.

I'm not claiming everyone besides myself is a disinfo agent. Stop putting words in my mouth. I'm just saying there there are disinfo agents among conspiracy theorists. It would be extremely naieve to believe that the oposite.

BlueAngel
09-10-2008, 12:44 PM
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Is it arrogant to accept reality?



Not everyone is a dumbass, as you seem to believe they are.

It's actually the other way around. I stopped accepting ANYTHING as truth from ANY source when I was 17 and decided to do my own research on EVERYTHING from that time onward. Currently, I only accept something when my own research confirms it. That makes it almost impossible to be indoctrinated.

You might be researching using the books they published for YOU.

Tell me : why are you a Christian other than people raising you as one?



Indoctrination and at some point when one matures, they use their own free will to decide what they choose to accept and what they choose to leave behind.

You're funny...

As I said, I don't accept COINTELPRO's words as you described:

IN THE WORLD OF COINTELPRO THERE ARE NO USELESS IDIOTS.

Useful idiots do not always remain useful. At some point, they become USELESS idiots! They are used up and spit out.

Did you learn about COINTELPRO's MO for useful idiots from their handbook?

Out of the Box
09-10-2008, 02:08 PM
Not everyone is a dumbass, as you seem to believe they are.

Not everyone, but the vast majority of the population is either stupid, ignorant or both.

You might be researching using the books they published for YOU.

I use books from as many different possible sources as possible. Some are undoubtebly NWO disinformation, but by analysing and comparing every source it gets quite easy to pick out the disinfo in time.

Tell me : why are you a Christian other than people raising you as one?

Indoctrination and at some point when one matures, they use their own free will to decide what they choose to accept and what they choose to leave behind.

That doesn't answer my question.

As I said, I don't accept COINTELPRO's words as you described:

Just keep telling yourself that ;)

Useful idiots do not always remain useful. At some point, they become USELESS idiots! They are used up and spit out.

Rarely.

Did you learn about COINTELPRO's MO for useful idiots from their handbook?

:rolleyes:

Ozziecynic
09-11-2008, 04:35 AM
Maybe the project with that name was buried, but the idea behind it is very much alive. Undercover agents in dissident political movements, conspiracy theorist groups and even Internet forums are very common and this is one of the main techniques for rendering movements harmless.


OTB: Yes you are no better example however i prefer the term provocateur!. And before you start throwing the mud around as regards this matter. I have been on cc for 415 odd posts counting this one so it is highly idiotic and conceited of you to start boy yes your merely a boy.
It seems you a have fair amount of maturity to get through with all your screwed up notions this has nothing to do with your education level or intelligence either!. :rolleyes:

Out of the Box
09-11-2008, 05:02 AM
OTB: Yes you are no better example however i prefer the term provocateur!

I'm a provocateur because I don't buy into your Christian BS?

And before you start throwing the mud around as regards this matter. I have been on cc for 415 odd posts counting this one so it is highly idiotic and conceited of you to start boy yes your merely a boy.

I'm in my twenties, have a well-paid job and I've been active on Internet forums for about 8 years now (with a history of thousands of posts on some of those forums). You're a "boy" if you think you're better than I because you posted some 415 odd posts on this forum?! :rolleyes:

It seems you a have fair amount of maturity to get through with all your screwed up notions this has nothing to do with your education level or intelligence either!. :rolleyes:

My screwed up notions?

Ozziecynic
09-11-2008, 06:41 PM
OTB: Yeh 4OOish posts as opposed to a few hundred from yourself thats the point! So whom is the troll and whom is the provocateur or looks more likely to be the agent it aint me!. Your a blowin and a smart ass a very misguided one at that!.:rolleyes:

Out of the Box
09-11-2008, 06:49 PM
OTB: Yeh 4OOish posts as opposed to a few hundred from yourself thats the point!

I've only been here fairly recently, whereas you've been here for four years. I have a post count of 3.40 posts per day, whereas your post count is only 0.30 posts per day. What's your point?

So whom is the troll and whom is the provocateur or looks more likely to be the agent it aint me!. Your a blowin and a smart ass a very misguided one at that!.:rolleyes:

http://www.freewebs.com/jokesadvanced/laughing.gif

BlueAngel
09-11-2008, 07:16 PM
Why all the arguing about who is this and who is that?

Very counterproductive.

Don't you think?

BlueAngel
09-11-2008, 07:24 PM
It's like

Yes you did, no you didn't.

Yes you did, no I didn't.

Resolution will not occur, but arguing will continue and this is exactly what an agent desires to provoke.

So, who is the provocateur?

Ozziecynic
09-15-2008, 04:16 AM
I've only been here fairly recently, whereas you've been here for four years. I have a post count of 3.40 posts per day, whereas your post count is only 0.30 posts per day. What's your point?


Still dont get it do you, read my previous post again!. As for having a lower post rate than yours thats exactly the way I want it to be. Would you seriously believe i had no life to the point where i posted as frequently as say BA or our up and coming ascended master(you) I wouldnt have a life worth oxygen nuh mate some of us have to earn a living try it sometime.

Infact expect even a lower post rate in future as i decided cc hasnt changed at all from the last time I was here well over year ago, same as ever pretty poor quality posters and troublemakers only thing thats changed is the pseudonyms and for all i know there still all the same characters. So i will be not posting at all very shortly so then you can try your cointelpro shite on others as you have deadset failed in my case and always would!.:D

BlueAngel
09-15-2008, 07:27 AM
Still dont get it do you, read my previous post again!. As for having a lower post rate than yours thats exactly the way I want it to be. Would you seriously believe i had no life to the point where i posted as frequently as say BA or our up and coming ascended master(you) I wouldnt have a life worth oxygen nuh mate some of us have to earn a living try it sometime.

Infact expect even a lower post rate in future as i decided cc hasnt changed at all from the last time I was here well over year ago, same as ever pretty poor quality posters and troublemakers only thing thats changed is the pseudonyms and for all i know there still all the same characters. So i will be not posting at all very shortly so then you can try your cointelpro shite on others as you have deadset failed in my case and always would!.:D

I do have a life and, as you see, I've been a member since 2005, so my daily post count really isn't that high.

Not that it matters, anyway, because THIS is part of my life.

BeenThereDoneThat
09-15-2008, 10:15 PM
LOL:p

Out of the Box
09-17-2008, 02:58 AM
Would you seriously believe i had no life to the point where i posted as frequently as say BA or our up and coming ascended master(you) I wouldnt have a life worth oxygen nuh mate some of us have to earn a living try it sometime.

I do most of my forum posting at work when bored, so it actually improves my quality of life. :D

Infact expect even a lower post rate in future as i decided cc hasnt changed at all from the last time I was here well over year ago, same as ever pretty poor quality posters and troublemakers only thing thats changed is the pseudonyms and for all i know there still all the same characters. So i will be not posting at all very shortly so then you can try your cointelpro shite on others as you have deadset failed in my case and always would!.:D

A high quality forum that allows free speech has become as rare as a woman who can read maps and who never whines about irrelevancies. If you can't deal with the low quality of this forum, don't go to Internet forums at all. ;)

Oh, and I'm not expecting you to believe me. Eventually, you'll find out I'm right.....