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Out of the Box
08-13-2008, 04:50 AM
After being censored on ATS (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/) myself, I did some research and found the following information :

I did a trace route on ATS (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/). the Node Name is listed and maintained by the government.
IP Address 213.206.128 213.206.129 213.206.130
Node Name Gov-bb21-lan-14 Gov-bb22-lan-15 Gov-bb23-lan-16
Location Langley, Virginia
MS 60
Network Used whois.nic.mil (for military network information)
It was difficult to get the IP Address, It was spoofed and looped over 9 times. Anyway Langley, Virginia is where the CIA headquarters is. I'm more than concerned.

AboveTopSecret.com - Disinfo Stooges?

A while ago I posted about an interesting encounter between the # and abovetopsecret.com websites, as reported by Laura Knight-Jadczyk in her blog (http://laura-knight-jadczyk.blogspot.com/). Now it appears that a lawyer acting on behalf of ATS tried to get the Signs of the Times server shut down by using strong arm intimidation tactics. And this from a so-called "conspiracy site" with the motto of "Deny Ignorance"!

I've been an interested reader of SOTT (http://www.sott.net/articles/show/110302-Abovetopsecret-Ethics-and-Google-Bombs) for some time, but this latest episode really has me wondering if they're on to something here. Why is a site that claims to be the "#1 conspiracy discussion portal on the 'net" getting so upset over a piece of 9-11 analysis done by another website? To the point of getting lawyers to harrass their webhost with stories of "death threats"? Seriously, what is the big deal?

In my opinion, it's starting to look like ATS have something to hide, and it could well be government connections. If that's the case, then what are the implications regarding what SOTT (http://www.sott.net/articles/show/110302-Abovetopsecret-Ethics-and-Google-Bombs) have been saying about 9-11? Could they be one of the few sites on the 'net with a good idea of what really happened on that day - thus requiring they be silenced in as covert a manner as possible? "Plausible Deniability" and all that?

Ironically, the lawyer involved works for a firm that can be found on the 'net at mofo.com. Appropriate, or what?

If you're interested in reading the whole saga, SOTT have just published a synopsis on the ATS attack on their latest daily news page. It's well worth reading all the posts regarding the subject on LJK's blog (http://laura-knight-jadczyk.blogspot.com/), too.

It's probably just coincidence, but it's interesting that this seems to have happened just after actor Charlie Sheen spoke out in support of the 9-11 truth movement, too. Are the American people starting to realise that Bush and Co are giving them the proverbial "mushroom treatment"?

BeenThereDoneThat
08-13-2008, 10:16 AM
Im so new here, i am lost. Got a link to scotts work?:)

Out of the Box
08-13-2008, 10:28 AM
Scott?

BeenThereDoneThat
08-13-2008, 10:43 AM
srry, SOTT? I was just fresh outta bed and havent had coffee yet. My bad. Im trying to look into this, but don't know where to look. Sounds very interesting though.;)

Out of the Box
08-13-2008, 11:09 AM
Click -> SOTT (http://www.sott.net/articles/show/110302-Abovetopsecret-Ethics-and-Google-Bombs) <-

Alien
08-14-2008, 12:34 AM
It's interesting that you mentioned abovetopsecret.com. I have tried to join that forum several times over the last few years. For some reason they won't let me.

While we're naming names, the other two sites that made me very suspicious are unexplained-mysteries.com and forteantimes.com (forteantimes removed my post about Albert Roy Davis and unexplained-mysteries stopped my post on the use of aloe vera on cancer and AIDS patients). Forteantimes now asks for your first name, your cell phone number and your zip code when you register. Why???

BlueAngel
08-14-2008, 09:41 AM
It's interesting that you mentioned abovetopsecret.com. I have tried to join that forum several times over the last few years. For some reason they won't let me.

While we're naming names, the other two sites that made me very suspicious are unexplained-mysteries.com and forteantimes.com (forteantimes removed my post about Albert Roy Davis and unexplained-mysteries stopped my post on the use of aloe vera on cancer and AIDS patients). Forteantimes now asks for your first name, your cell phone number and your zip code when you register. Why???

You know why.

redrat11
09-16-2008, 10:21 PM
if you do a google search of JasonLucas Godlike productions, you will see that forum is highly suspect also, there are alot "conspiracy forums" that are suspect, a good clue to know for sure is when you post anything viewed as "anti-semitic" they ban you immediately, this tells you the site is full of crap, and probably NWO CONTROLLED, Psych/ops programs, forums, are much like television basically now adays, just mind control tools of enslavement, instead of staring at idiots on TV, the PTB now have the internet,(which they invented) to corral peoples thoughts into there flow.....IMO......TAVISTOCK ANYONE???

Out of the Box
09-17-2008, 02:52 AM
there are alot "conspiracy forums" that are suspect, a good clue to know for sure is when you post anything viewed as "anti-semitic" they ban you immediately, this tells you the site is full of crap, and probably NWO CONTROLLED, Psych/ops programs, forums, are much like television basically now adays, just mind control tools of enslavement

Being banned from a forum because of stating supposebly antisemitic facts doesn't prove anything. Most people are so brainwashed to hate and be abusive towards those critical of Jews that they are often perfect mind slaves without realising it.

Time=Now
09-17-2008, 10:27 AM
Well, I don't think so... But who knows... I mean, come on... They report many great need to know issues, but what gets me is that they dont compile the proof; verifiable things, & allow people to continue wasting their time debating UFOs still, while the disclosure project video beggs to be seen. I was banned from there, but I was posting my website URL : Awareness & Taking Action! - Discover The True Dynamics of our World - All Need to Know Info (http://criticalunity.org) 100X more than I do on here ;-)


PS: They also have put ALL the REptilian threads in Skunkworks, making it even harder for the public to open their minds to that subject.

makaveli
10-01-2008, 12:42 PM
yeah I'd like to comment on ATS as well

I remember a tread about a 'reverse-therory' where it was to be discussed if the illuminati and the new world order actually where good for the world. As if they where doing us a favor by mass murdering us in order to unite us and we had to look at the bigger picture of it.
Altough I am openminded and I like a good discussion, I couldn't believe how many positive replies there where and how everybody all of a sudden agreed considering the fact that it is an conspiracy site. It was strange and now that you mention it it actually does make sense. But I don't really know much about tracin IP adresses you could you please give me some more evidence that a noob like me can also understand???

BlueAngel
10-01-2008, 06:12 PM
yeah I'd like to comment on ATS as well

I remember a tread about a 'reverse-therory' where it was to be discussed if the illuminati and the new world order actually where good for the world. As if they where doing us a favor by mass murdering us in order to unite us and we had to look at the bigger picture of it.
Altough I am openminded and I like a good discussion, I couldn't believe how many positive replies there where and how everybody all of a sudden agreed considering the fact that it is an conspiracy site. It was strange and now that you mention it it actually does make sense. But I don't really know much about tracin IP adresses you could you please give me some more evidence that a noob like me can also understand???

Don't know if this will answer your question, cause I'm not a computer geek, but when you register on a site, your IP address is revealed.

BeenThereDoneThat
10-01-2008, 08:54 PM
lol
I get it now.

Any way...there is no new world order. It was all changed/and no one wins.We are our own worst enemies.


The illuminati killing us?
what about the slayers in the name of christ or muhammed? Its true we all suck! What about the war on terror....We all need to blaze one...even them CS's at CIA bend over CIA and get a C In A! Broom cannon.

Fire up you rockets.

Ill say it...but I did not do it! Peace. Swallow me whole when I am a stiff hard corpse. We cant have peace...its just a suggestion.

makaveli
10-02-2008, 06:04 AM
Don't know if this will answer your question, cause I'm not a computer geek, but when you register on a site, your IP address is revealed.

So what the site isn't managed from a military base but only certain people on this site are from the side of the government???? I thought the treadstarted said that the entire site was part of disinformation or something.

Time=Now
10-03-2008, 08:25 PM
So, anyone know why they don't use their site funds to fight for the truth?

BlueAngel
10-04-2008, 08:52 AM
So what the site isn't managed from a military base but only certain people on this site are from the side of the government???? I thought the treadstarted said that the entire site was part of disinformation or something.

I'm not sure what you're saying, but, in any event, it doesn't matter if a site is run from a military base or not in order to know your IP address.

Whenever you register on ANY site, your IP address is known.

This is the reason they can ban you from accessing the site.

They know your IP address.

makaveli
10-04-2008, 02:18 PM
I'm not sure what you're saying, but, in any event, it doesn't matter if a site is run from a military base or not in order to know your IP address.

Whenever you register on ANY site, your IP address is known.

This is the reason they can ban you from accessing the site.

They know your IP address.

yeah I know but how can you figure out if site is run from a military base? Thats what I'd like to know.

Time=Now
10-04-2008, 03:53 PM
Yeah, I always wonder sometimes when registering on a forum if they are hoping you use the same password for everything, & to get your IP; Malicious geeks could do this to ANY group.

stompk
10-04-2008, 07:26 PM
I have been banned from ATS three times now.

This last time, they even erased a thread that I had going which
had 54 flags and over 16,000 views.

I found some of it on Google cache.

Prepare for a National Emergency and Martial Law, page 1 (http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:odbERjZaMpoJ:www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread393120/pg1+prepare+for+national+emergency+and+martial+law&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us)

They are a Freemason base government psyops operation.

NotThe1
10-05-2008, 04:07 AM
I gave up @ ats a while ago. Theres always banning people for no reason. Alof of flame wars and so on.

BlueAngel
10-05-2008, 10:59 PM
I have been banned from ATS three times now.

This last time, they even erased a thread that I had going which
had 54 flags and over 16,000 views.

I found some of it on Google cache.

Prepare for a National Emergency and Martial Law, page 1 (http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:odbERjZaMpoJ:www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread393120/pg1+prepare+for+national+emergency+and+martial+law&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us)

They are a Freemason base government psyops operation.

Do you know when Martial Law will be implemented, or have you just been sounding the warning bell without any knowledge as to when or if it will happen?

Time=Now
10-06-2008, 12:50 AM
It's pretty much been implemented... Check the news on my site... (its in the News archives now I believe, a section on criticalunity.org

BlueAngel
10-06-2008, 09:16 AM
It's pretty much been implemented... Check the news on my site... (its in the News archives now I believe, a section on criticalunity.org

Okay, scratch the word implemented.

When will Martial Law occur?

All the warnings about Martial Law are based upon the fact that it's been implemented?

How so?

Martial Law is Martial Law.

It's either all or nothing.

Time=Now
10-06-2008, 12:21 PM
No, all the warnings are based on logical inference. - The fact that it's being implemented can be seen in things like the Army coming back to America, incase of civil unrest... So, we're in Martial Law already, pretty much... Try protesting... 'It'll likely be not a free-speech zone.'

They are not marching every street yet, so you have the chance to take a look at Criticalunity.org, to see that if it could get out to the majority, we could avoid complete disaster... This is the crossroads!

Hemlocks
02-20-2010, 01:05 AM
if you do a google search of JasonLucas Godlike productions, you will see that forum is highly suspect also, there are alot "conspiracy forums" that are suspect, a good clue to know for sure is when you post anything viewed as "anti-semitic" they ban you immediately, this tells you the site is full of crap, and probably NWO CONTROLLED, Psych/ops programs, forums, are much like television basically now adays, just mind control tools of enslavement, instead of staring at idiots on TV, the PTB now have the internet,(which they invented) to corral peoples thoughts into there flow.....IMO......TAVISTOCK ANYONE???

I agree with you 100%%%% GodLike Productions is a NWO forum used to gather data and promote issues they want known. Trinity, supposed owner, works for/supports the enemies of freedom! On GLP you can post all sorts of stuff...porn, foul talk, rabid anti-muslim crap and so on...but post about Zion and its control networks and you are banned!

Nectarious Daniel
02-20-2010, 12:32 PM
GLP and AboveTopSecret are both government controlled I think.
This Clubconspiracy-forum I think is still independent.
At least they haven't banned me yet.
I even have included a link to the armageddonconspiracy-site to my signature.
And I'm still alive.

BlueAngel
11-19-2010, 11:48 PM
GLP and AboveTopSecret are both government controlled I think.
This Clubconspiracy-forum I think is still independent.
At least they haven't banned me yet.
I even have included a link to the armageddonconspiracy-site to my signature.
And I'm still alive.

LOL!

TheSkepticGuy
11-20-2010, 07:04 PM
The core information in the opening post of this thread comes up from time to time as apparent "evidence" that ATS has connections to the government, specifically, the "IP" addresses referenced.

Those who do their own research will discover two things:

1) Those are not valid IP addresses.

2) The original source of the IP addresses was an April Fools Joke (and labeled as such) from 2004. More info here (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread629875/pg1).


There seems to be many who would like to cast aspersions, but it always seems to be on errant third-party information that was never properly researched.

Koomz
12-19-2010, 03:34 PM
www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/.../above-top-secret-com-is-owned-and.html- Cached - Similar
Here is a link. Check it out, hope it works as I'm using a ps3 (it's not very efficient for web use) I heard about ATS being a disinfo site via David Ickes website. One of my friends is a regular ATS member and Itold him that a fellow member couldn't post anything regarding things he knew about freemasonry and he was eventually banned!

BlueAngel
12-19-2010, 07:07 PM
The core information in the opening post of this thread comes up from time to time as apparent "evidence" that ATS has connections to the government, specifically, the "IP" addresses referenced.

Those who do their own research will discover two things:

1) Those are not valid IP addresses.

2) The original source of the IP addresses was an April Fools Joke (and labeled as such) from 2004. More info here (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread629875/pg1).

There seems to be many who would like to cast aspersions, but it always seems to be on errant third-party information that was never properly researched.

Your post doesn't make any sense.

TheSkepticGuy
12-19-2010, 09:05 PM
Your post doesn't make any sense.

What part of the very-clear explanation that an "April Fools" joke of several years ago has been misinterpreted by those looking for reasons to cast aspersions?

Is english not your first language?

TheSkepticGuy
12-19-2010, 09:09 PM
www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/.../above-top-secret-com-is-owned-and.html- Cached - Similar
Here is a link. Check it out, hope it works as I'm using a ps3 (it's not very efficient for web use) I heard about ATS being a disinfo site via David Ickes website. One of my friends is a regular ATS member and Itold him that a fellow member couldn't post anything regarding things he knew about freemasonry and he was eventually banned!

Your link doesn't work.

"ATS" is not a "disinfo" site, it's a place where anyone is able to post just about anything, as long as they adhere to some very basic rules of decorum. Those who feel they were banned for telling the "truth" typically have been unable to "tell the truth" without being insolent.

What was his username?

BlueAngel
12-19-2010, 10:00 PM
What part of the very-clear explanation that an "April Fools" joke of several years ago has been misinterpreted by those looking for reasons to cast aspersions?

Is english not your first language?

Apparently, you do not write in English because that which you think was a very-clear explanation wasn't.

BlueAngel
12-19-2010, 10:06 PM
Your link doesn't work.

"ATS" is not a "disinfo" site, it's a place where anyone is able to post just about anything, as long as they adhere to some very basic rules of decorum. Those who feel they were banned for telling the "truth" typically have been unable to "tell the truth" without being insolent.

What was his username?

Ah, please inform CC how it is that the management at ATS knows what is the truth and what isn't.

BlueAngel
12-19-2010, 10:10 PM
www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/.../above-top-secret-com-is-owned-and.html- (http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/.../above-top-secret-com-is-owned-and.html-) Cached - Similar
Here is a link. Check it out, hope it works as I'm using a ps3 (it's not very efficient for web use) I heard about ATS being a disinfo site via David Ickes website. One of my friends is a regular ATS member and Itold him that a fellow member couldn't post anything regarding things he knew about freemasonry and he was eventually banned!

Look, pal, don't LOOK to David Icke's site for anything but disinformation.

They're all one in the same.

Pointing the finger at one another.

In-house fighting.

Distraction.

That's all it is.

No truth to be found.

Well, maybe tidbits, but tidbits don't amount to anything.

TheSkepticGuy
12-19-2010, 10:27 PM
Ah, please inform CC how it is that the management at ATS knows what is the truth and what isn't.

No intimation was made regarding any metric for determining truth, only an explanation as to why some who may think they possesses it may run afoul of site staff on ATS.

BlueAngel
12-19-2010, 11:00 PM
FYI, the definition of insolent is ARROGANT.

So, you're saying that those members of your fourm who believe they are telling the truth are banned not for telling the truth but for being ARROGANT?

Yeah.

That makes sense.

Please go back to your forum or I will ban you for being insolent.

theconspiracist
12-20-2010, 04:36 AM
Hmmmm....if I told you the truth, I would be banned? Man, that's like saying, There's a third shooter who actually shot JFK."

Speaking the truth may have consquences, but being banned from speaking it is just so, well ..."insolent".

Koomz
12-20-2010, 07:05 AM
Your link doesn't work.

"ATS" is not a "disinfo" site, it's a place where anyone is able to post just about anything, as long as they adhere to some very basic rules of decorum. Those who feel they were banned for telling the "truth" typically have been unable to "tell the truth" without being insolent.

What was his username?

Just type the atlanteanconspiracy into google. Wether ATS is a disinfo site or not I'm still rather suspicious of it.

Koomz
12-20-2010, 07:12 AM
Look, pal, don't LOOK to David Icke's site for anything but disinformation.

They're all one in the same.

Pointing the finger at one another.

In-house fighting.

Distraction.

That's all it is.

No truth to be found.

Well, maybe tidbits, but tidbits don't amount to anything.
I'm not saying that I follow David Icke or anything. I've seen and read things which looks as if he is a possible disinfo agent. I just happend to stumble across it as I was searching something on google and I came across a section that was saying something along the lines of "please avoid abovetopsecret.com as there is evidence to show it may be runned by masons.

TheSkepticGuy
12-20-2010, 08:20 AM
Hmmmm....if I told you the truth, I would be banned?

No. At least, not unless you did so with insolence and/or malice toward those on the site you were attempting to tell.

TheSkepticGuy
12-20-2010, 08:23 AM
FYI, the definition of insolent is ARROGANT.
dictionary.com/insolent (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/insolent)
–adjective
boldly rude or disrespectful; contemptuously impertinent; insulting



Please go back to your forum or I will ban you for being insolent.
As previously stated several times, all I'm doing is attempting to correct misconceptions (sometimes purposeful lies) that have been posted here about our site.

TheSkepticGuy
12-20-2010, 08:30 AM
Just type the atlanteanconspiracy into google. Wether ATS is a disinfo site or not I'm still rather suspicious of it.

The first page of returns shows the unauthorized promotion of the book on ATS: The Atlantean Conspiracy (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread347012/pg1)

I'm not finding any other search return that describe ATS in a negative way, except this one, apparently by the author: The Atlantean Conspiracy: Above Top Secret .com is Owned and Operated by Masons (http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2009/04/above-top-secret-com-is-owned-and.html) -- who is clearly upset for being banned for the unauthorized promotion. He wasn't banned for his ideas, he was banned for breaking the rules (for which he agreed when signing up). Had he approached us first, we would have found a way (which we do many times) to help him discuss his work without coming across as gratuitous self-promotion to our members.

TheSkepticGuy
12-20-2010, 08:36 AM
I came across a section that was saying something along the lines of "please avoid abovetopsecret.com as there is evidence to show it may be runned by masons.

What is that evidence?

I'm the CEO of the company that owns the site, and many will corroborate that I've never even been in a Masonic hall, I'm against the religiously-steeped ritualistic organization that they are. Our other C-level executives -- and anyone else with influence over company matters -- have no Masonic connections.

Where confusion may come into play is that, in our "Secret Societies" forum, we afford Masons equal opportunity to defend their cult/organization -- as long as they do so with civility and decorum. Those who are vehemently anti-mason look at that fact (not realizing that forum represents less than 2% of all our traffic) and assume we either favor Masons, or are beholding to Masons in some way. Neither is true.

Koomz
12-20-2010, 08:45 AM
Prove to me that none of you are masons.

TheSkepticGuy
12-20-2010, 09:13 AM
Prove to me that none of you are masons.

It's incumbent upon those making accusations that carry aspersions to supply the supporting evidence. However, given the veracity of those who enjoy making up unfavorable stories about ATS, evidence appears to be something no one actually wants -- favoring instead lies, innuendo, and misinformation.

Koomz
12-20-2010, 09:45 AM
It's incumbent upon those making accusations that carry aspersions to supply the supporting evidence. However, given the veracity of those who enjoy making up unfavorable stories about ATS, evidence appears to be something no one actually wants -- favoring instead lies, innuendo, and misinformation.

Dude, I'm not favouring anyone. All I said was that I'm suspicious of ATS. I'd like all the evidence suggesting the site is runned by masons as much as I would like evidence to counter it. Will you supply it?

TheSkepticGuy
12-20-2010, 09:58 AM
Will you supply it?

How does one prove a negative? Can you prove you are not a Mason? If so, how would you?

I've already said that all those responsible for the operation of the site are not associated now, nor ever, with any Masonic organization. As the parent company has been registered with the Securities and Exchange Commission, any false statement by a corporate officer (me) about about the nature of ownership/management is a violation of SEC statutes, with significant penalties associated.

Koomz
12-20-2010, 10:43 AM
I can assure I'm not a freemason and no, I can't prove that. I thought it'd be interesting to see if you could prove that ATS is not controlled by freemasons or even the CIA. For all I know cc is controlled by a government agency. So would you recommend ATS to me? If so, Why?

TheSkepticGuy
12-20-2010, 11:07 AM
I thought it'd be interesting to see if you could prove that ATS is not controlled by freemasons or even the CIA.
The only "proof" of such a negative is my prior statements, and the potential SEC penalties we'd face in regards to a corporate officer lying about the company ownership/control.



So would you recommend ATS to me? If so, Why?
My intent here is to respond to false allegations and misconceptions, not to promote our site.

Koomz
12-20-2010, 12:03 PM
Would you describe ATS as a business?

theconspiracist
12-20-2010, 12:26 PM
No. At least, not unless you did so with insolence and/or malice toward those on the site you were attempting to tell.

Have you ever heard this before?


'Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And, contrary-wise, what it is, it wouldn't be. And, what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?'

http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/f29/dont-quote-me-11999.html

TheSkepticGuy
12-20-2010, 12:47 PM
Would you describe ATS as a business?

The Above Network, LLC is a business (where the founder of ATS is an executive), which owns the ATS site.

BlueAngel
12-21-2010, 06:22 PM
dictionary.com/insolent (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/insolent)
–adjective
boldly rude or disrespectful; contemptuously impertinent; insulting




As previously stated several times, all I'm doing is attempting to correct misconceptions (sometimes purposeful lies) that have been posted here about our site.

Oh, my, so those telling the truth on your site are banned because they are boldly rude or disrespectful, contemptuously impertinent; insulting?

Nothing you post on this forum is going to correct any opinion that any of CC's members have about ATS.

Wasting your time.

TheSkepticGuy
12-21-2010, 06:43 PM
Oh, my, so those telling the truth on your site are banned because they are boldly rude or disrespectful, contemptuously impertinent; insulting?

In no way did I ever say, or imply such a ridiculous notion.

BlueAngel
12-21-2010, 06:52 PM
In no way did I ever say, or imply such a ridiculous notion.

Yes you did.

TheSkepticGuy
12-21-2010, 07:56 PM
Yes you did.

No, I said this: Those who feel they were banned for telling the "truth" typically have been unable to "tell the truth" without being insolent.

You seem to have some difficulty with comprehending clearly-structured written statements.

BlueAngel
12-21-2010, 08:24 PM
No, I said this: Those who feel they were banned for telling the "truth" typically have been unable to "tell the truth" without being insolent.

You seem to have some difficulty with comprehending clearly-structured written statements.

No.

I don't have difficulty with comprehending clearly-structured written statements.

YOU have difficulty with comprehending that which you write because they are not clearly-structured written statements.

You said that members of your forum are banned for being unable to tell the truth without being insolent.

You can go around in circles all you want, pal, but that is exactly what you said.

I, for one, don't care to join you in your circle jerk.

BlueAngel
12-21-2010, 09:23 PM
What say you, Mr. Skeptic Guy?

Nothing?

Just as I thought.

kcraigdc
12-23-2010, 01:06 PM
NEW PHOENIX COINTELPRO


I THINK THE PENTAGON OR SOMEONE IS PAYING PEOPLE TO PUT OUT BOGUS STORIES ABOUT COINTELPRO BEING IN THE PAST, COINTELPRO IS VERY MUCH ALIVE TODAY, IN FACT IT IS TEN TIMES WORSE AND TEN TIMES MORE DESTRUCTIVE. NOW THEY HAVE THE MILITARY AND INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES VERY MUCH INVOLVED USING MILITARY SATELLITES TO TRACK AND MONITOR A PERSONS EVERY MOVE YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO PRIVACY WHATSOEVER, THEY EVEN WATCH ME IN MY BEDROOM, THEY ARE SICK PIGS AND NEED TO BE EXPOSED NOW. ALL MY COMMUNICATIONS ARE MONITORED WITH ABSOLUTELY NO TRIAL, JURY OR JUDGE, THEY DO WHATEVER THEY WANT. I'M GANG STALKED AND TEERRORIZED DAILY, TRACKED AND HARASSED BY THE POLICE WITH SATELLITES. THEY GET TO MY EMPLOYERS, NEIGHBORS, DOCTORS, ANYONE WHO CAN HELP ME. AND THEN THEY USE DIRECTED ENERGY WEAPONS TO POISON ME AND BRING MORE TEERROR INTO MY LIFE. THIS IS AMERICA QUIT THE PAST GARBAGE! JUST WATCH MY VIDEOS!

YouTube - SATELLITE DIR. POLICE HARASSMENT & STALKING, SFLK CTY SHERRIFS NWO, CIA, NSA, FBI COINTELPRO.wmv

WE NEED NULLIFICATION NOW TO REGAIN OUR COUNTRY FROM THESE TYRANNICAL FREAKS WHO HAVE TAKEN OVER AMERICA AND WANT TO USHER IN THEIR ILLUMINATI NWO INSANITY. I NEED HELP! IF ANYBODY GIVES A DAMN IN THIS WORLD. I'M WRITING A BOOK ABOUT THIS INSANITY IF ANY TI's KNOW OF ANY PERPS WHO WOULD LIKE TO GIVE ME INFORMATION OR TI's THEMSELVES PLEASE CONTACT ME, WE MUST EXPOSE THEM! I MAY HAVE EVEN BEEN SECRETLY MICRO-CHIPPED AGAINST MY WILL. YOU ARE ALL GREAT AT WRITING ABOUT THE PROBLEM BUT I DON'T SEE ANYONE DOING ANYTHING ABOUT THIS HOLOCAUST.


APFN - Nullification: How to Resist Federal Tyranny (http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=131896;title=AP FN)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9b_wDTUxgg (https://tamar.safe-mail.net/cgi-bin/Safe-mail.net/display?mime/url.html&http://www.youtube.com/watch@3fv@3dC9b_wDTUxgg)









GESTAPO USA: Gov't-Funded Vigilante Network Terrorizes America | NowPublic News Coverage (http://www.nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america)

U.S. SILENTLY TORTURES AMERICANS WITH CELL TOWER MICROWAVES | NowPublic News Coverage (http://www.nowpublic.com/world/u-s-silently-tortures-americans-cell-tower-microwaves)

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/rule-law-morality-die-usa-fusion-center-slow-kill-genocide (https://tamar.safe-mail.net/cgi-bin/Safe-mail.net/display?mime/url.html&http://www.nowpublic.com/world/rule-law-morality-die-usa-fusion-center-slow-kill-genocide)
THIS IS MY EXACT SAME NIGHTMARE!!



KEVIN CANADA

PLEASE CONTACT ME IF YOU CAN HELP ME I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO TURN.


631 419-6132
kcanada@safe-mail.net

YouTube - kcraigdc's Channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/kcraigdc) MY COINTELPRO VIDEOS

TheSkepticGuy
12-23-2010, 01:18 PM
Nothing?
The only question I have; are you in politics or a writer for Fox News?

You seem willing to distort the statements of others.

BlueAngel
12-23-2010, 10:54 PM
The only question I have; are you in politics or a writer for Fox News?

You seem willing to distort the statements of others.

I DO NOT distort any of YOUR statements or any of the statement's made by any other member of this forum.

Some members of this forum, such as yourself, are responsible for distorting their own words because, after I respond to their comments and point out their inconsistencies, they are unable to answer in a clear and concise manner.

Therefore, I have a couple of questions for you.

Are you in politics or a writer for Fox News?

BlueAngel
12-23-2010, 10:57 PM
NEW PHOENIX COINTELPRO


I THINK THE PENTAGON OR SOMEONE IS PAYING PEOPLE TO PUT OUT BOGUS STORIES ABOUT COINTELPRO BEING IN THE PAST, COINTELPRO IS VERY MUCH ALIVE TODAY, IN FACT IT IS TEN TIMES WORSE AND TEN TIMES MORE DESTRUCTIVE. NOW THEY HAVE THE MILITARY AND INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES VERY MUCH INVOLVED USING MILITARY SATELLITES TO TRACK AND MONITOR A PERSONS EVERY MOVE YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO PRIVACY WHATSOEVER, THEY EVEN WATCH ME IN MY BEDROOM, THEY ARE SICK PIGS AND NEED TO BE EXPOSED NOW. ALL MY COMMUNICATIONS ARE MONITORED WITH ABSOLUTELY NO TRIAL, JURY OR JUDGE, THEY DO WHATEVER THEY WANT. I'M GANG STALKED AND TEERRORIZED DAILY, TRACKED AND HARASSED BY THE POLICE WITH SATELLITES. THEY GET TO MY EMPLOYERS, NEIGHBORS, DOCTORS, ANYONE WHO CAN HELP ME. AND THEN THEY USE DIRECTED ENERGY WEAPONS TO POISON ME AND BRING MORE TEERROR INTO MY LIFE. THIS IS AMERICA QUIT THE PAST GARBAGE! JUST WATCH MY VIDEOS!

YouTube - SATELLITE DIR. POLICE HARASSMENT & STALKING, SFLK CTY SHERRIFS NWO, CIA, NSA, FBI COINTELPRO.wmv (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1jW1QxGybU)

WE NEED NULLIFICATION NOW TO REGAIN OUR COUNTRY FROM THESE TYRANNICAL FREAKS WHO HAVE TAKEN OVER AMERICA AND WANT TO USHER IN THEIR ILLUMINATI NWO INSANITY. I NEED HELP! IF ANYBODY GIVES A DAMN IN THIS WORLD. I'M WRITING A BOOK ABOUT THIS INSANITY IF ANY TI's KNOW OF ANY PERPS WHO WOULD LIKE TO GIVE ME INFORMATION OR TI's THEMSELVES PLEASE CONTACT ME, WE MUST EXPOSE THEM! I MAY HAVE EVEN BEEN SECRETLY MICRO-CHIPPED AGAINST MY WILL. YOU ARE ALL GREAT AT WRITING ABOUT THE PROBLEM BUT I DON'T SEE ANYONE DOING ANYTHING ABOUT THIS HOLOCAUST.


APFN - Nullification: How to Resist Federal Tyranny (http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=131896;title=AP FN)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9b_wDTUxgg (https://tamar.safe-mail.net/cgi-bin/Safe-mail.net/display?mime/url.html&http://www.youtube.com/watch@3fv@3dC9b_wDTUxgg)









GESTAPO USA: Gov't-Funded Vigilante Network Terrorizes America | NowPublic News Coverage (http://www.nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america)

U.S. SILENTLY TORTURES AMERICANS WITH CELL TOWER MICROWAVES | NowPublic News Coverage (http://www.nowpublic.com/world/u-s-silently-tortures-americans-cell-tower-microwaves)

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/rule-law-morality-die-usa-fusion-center-slow-kill-genocide (https://tamar.safe-mail.net/cgi-bin/Safe-mail.net/display?mime/url.html&http://www.nowpublic.com/world/rule-law-morality-die-usa-fusion-center-slow-kill-genocide)
THIS IS MY EXACT SAME NIGHTMARE!!



KEVIN CANADA

PLEASE CONTACT ME IF YOU CAN HELP ME I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO TURN.


631 419-6132
kcanada@safe-mail.net

YouTube - kcraigdc's Channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/kcraigdc) MY COINTELPRO VIDEOS

We're writing about it, pal.

That's what we're doing.

Sorry that's not good enough for you.

FYI, our objective is not to bring about your satisfaction.

Care to tell us what you're doing other than being secretly microchipped against your own free will?